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Flip the Script with Vic is a sacred space for real conversations with real women 🩷 Hosted by Victoria Nielsen—intuitive healer, mama, and space-holder for the divine feminine—this podcast amplifies women’s voices through raw interviews, intimate solocasts, and unfiltered conversations on motherhood, mysticism, psychedelics, ancestral healing, spirituality, identity, and more.
What began as a personal exploration is now a communal prayer: a gathering place for cycle-breakers, mothers, mystics, creatives, witches, and wild ones redefining what it means to be a woman in today’s world.
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Hello, hello.Welcome back to another episode of Flip the Script with Vic.It's your host, Victoria Nielson.I am always so excited to be here with you guys, but the woman I have on today has been one of my dear friends and one of my co-Kundalini business ladies since about 2021.And, Lindsay Walter, we have so much in common but you have also grown so much since we started our friendship back in the days of signing online for this business program, and then we became accountability buddies.Mm-hmm.And I thought it was so neat that we both worked in the Akashic Records but that you had no, umlike, you were not like, "Oh, this is mine."Like, "I," you know, "I'm the only one that can talk about the Akashic Records."You were very open and were like, "Hey," like, "Let's chat together.Let's do this together," and I really appreciated that.And now you have grown to do wellness with your husband.You guys have Walter Wellness together, and you just opened a mobile refillery where you guys live in Michigan.You're doing all the things.Like, holy cow, lady, you're doing it.All of the things.And one thing, I wanna touch back on the Akashic Records 'cause you know you talk it, I walk it, we both do.The Akashic Records is for everyone.Everyone has the ability to ta- to open, to tap into the Akashic Records, that deep inner knowing, that wake up call, and that deep, deep guidance.And I know that it has fueled changes and evolutions in your life the way that it has mine.I've even sent my husband, Dan, to you for readings because I think sometimes, you know, when things are so close to you, it doesn't seem as authentic to the person being read for.You know?Dan and I know each other so incredibly intimately as husband and wife that when he was going through something and just needed that guidance and was just reaching, kind of like the, like, grabbing at straws or whatever people say, I was like, "I'm gonna make an appointment with Victoria because she's going to give you the guidance from your Akashic Records that is going to be exactly what you need," and of course it was.It was- It awesome.life changing.I mean, it was truly life changing.He tookYou know, I mean, with the Akashic Records, it's 0 a lot of times an affirmation, right?We know- Yes.We already know- It's very simple.It's very simple.And it'll speak in terms that you know.You know?People think- Yes.it's like, I don't know, this Christ-like voice, like, coming down from the heavens.And I don't know, that's not how I experienced it.Yes, oh, exactly.And so when Dan was finished with his session with you, first of all, he felt more grounded.He felt better.He felt affirmed in the way he was feeling and what he was going through and also what he needed to do to get himself out of that space, and thank you for that.And this is why- Thank you for that reflection.Yes.And it's why it's such a gift and of course why we share it, you know?Those who get it, get it.Those who know, whoknow, you know?And- And the Akashics just kind of started your journey, right?Or what- Yes.what came first, I guess I should say?Like, the Akashic Records or your spiritual awakening?No, that was the catalyst.Yes.That was the complete catalyst because I was in my own dark place.I was in, um, you know, a, a hard place in life, in home, in everything, and was struggling for balance.That is, that is the word of my life- Yes.because not only was I struggling and found the right tools, but now when I find myself in places of struggle or darkness, I'm like, "Why amwhy am I not using my tools?This is whatWhy are youYou know, this is why you are where you are."Isn't it funny though- We have those tools.how that happens?Like, as healers, we need to remind ourselves, like, use your own tools.And that'sI wanna normalize that because I think, you know, sometimes people think they have to be perfect or be put on this pedestal and they have to always make the right choice, but we're human too.And sometimes we get off our own path.Sometimes we f- forget.We don't really forget, but we get caught up, you know, in life- Mm-hmm.and, and in everything, and we need to be reminded, "Hey, you have these tools, and you can use them."And also, the tools are free.Yeah.Yes, absolutely.You don't need to buy another course.You don't need to, like, go do another thing.Like, use what you already have in your toolkit.Well, and that's where people like you and people like me, that's what our purposes are, right?That's where we exist in this world, in this very moment, and I truly believe.You know, I see everything that you do, and I'm in awe, and, like, I just always like, "What's Vic up to?I'm gonna go on the internet and see," 'cause you're just your evolutionary pro- Well, I'm doing the same, sister.Yeah.So.Oh.You know, you leaving corporate, I'm like, "This is a new person."Your energy, your light, your brighten-it's just amazing.It's been wonderful to watch as friends, and, you know, we always send each other little DMs.We slide into her DMs and say like, "Sister, I see you, and I'm loving everything, and bravo, and it's wonderful what we have."Um, but- And it's so important that, like, women recognize one another in that way because to be seen by another woman, hoof.Exactly.That almost feels better than, like, being seen sometimes by, you know, your partner or by- Yeah.you know, other men or just others.It's like when a woman sees you, it's like whena queen to a queen, you're like- Yes."Damn."Well, that's why they say girls dress for girls, you know?Yeah, h- I mean, honestly, we do.We, we do.We put it on for girls because we'll be walking in the street, and we'll be like, "Earrings?"Yeah.I see those.That- that little tiny, little detail that you put in there, like- Yeah.I see that.Yeah.I see that and I love you and that mwah.Yes.And it's amazing when you can do that.But that's where you and I are in this world because we are the healers, we're the teachers.We're the ones who help to lift the energy and, you know, like I just said, our tools are free but we're the ones that help you to l- to learn to use the tools.You know?We're those- those guides, those teachers in our human form in this lifetime, in this now moment, helping- Yeah, I think it's an important delineation, right, because we've had so many lifetimes in so many different moments.And i- they want me to talk about kind of star families and soul contracts, if that feels aligned to you- Yeah.because I definitely believe that we are of a same star family and definitely have some kind of soul contract.And I think for people, you know, uh, you hear some of the common soul contracts, right, I think of, like, twin flame and of, um, you know, soulmate or- Yeah.just that you have some kind of karmic thing with a person, but there are, like, dozens of different kinds of contracts and different kinds- Oh.of relationships and different kinds of means that we're meant to interact with one another.Absolutely.And they're not meant to always be for your entire life.Yes.And I think that that is something that can be a very hard lesson for people to learn because there can be someone that gives such an amazing impact, positively or negatively, on your life that could be there in a span of years, months, you know?When we say, "Oh, we feel this connection," and then maybe the connection goes and there's, uh, of course can be a grief over that.It's so important just to realize and to remember, like, and have gratitude for that, for that person.That's reallyBecause yeah, you're- nothing- nothing is forever and I feel- Yeah.like it's beautiful to talk about after the full moon that we just experienced because- Yes.this to me was another shed- we've been, like, shedding- Oh.shedding since 2020.I feel like it's like shedding and shedding some more.And I feel like that we as women right now actually need to continue to do that and continue to ground in.I know we talk about being, like, light workers and I see the radiance in you and I see the light in you and I wanna talk about that as well because I've seen that shift.I think you're no longer doing massage therapy, right?You've walked away from some things.Yeah, this is my last month- So-and I'm wrapping it up.I'm putting a beautiful bow of gratitude on that journey and sending her free.See?But you have to make space for what's coming next, right?And- Yes.I think you can see it in- in just your energy looking at you right now, like, you are radiant and you are lighter, but guess what?You had to let go to get there.Yes.Yes.And that's really hard for people.Yeah.And talking about the soul, you know, we've talked about shedding, but people all say- also say, you know, "I can feel it in the inner depths of my soul."So don't be afraid to shed.You're not going to lose all the layers of your onion and then come to the core.It's important to find that core, but it's also okay to know that the shedding is so necessary.And again, with the full moon that we experienced, this whole week is coming home to you in the biggest way.The- and today is even, like, and I'm not an astrology, you know, guru so I'm not gonna get into things, but I do pay attention.Um, but it is such a coming home and knowing and l- releasing what is meant to be.And yesterday I, you know, I was doing my daily tarot and I was doing all of my things in the morning as Dan, my husband, was trying to get ready for work and I looked at him and I said, "Today is the s- today is the day I say goodbye to massage.We're done."That energy, that last vestige of energy, um, I released it with the full moon.And as soon as I did that, yesterday alone I booked 2 workshops, a pop-up, a speaking gig, and something else.Holy shit.I booked 5 things yesterday.Yeah.so stoked for you.Yeah.It was amazing.It was amazing.It was that releasing.Mm-hmm.To speak it, to know it, to breathe it, to exhale it out with gratitude.I mean, I really, really, truly, you know, I told, I texted Dan and I was like, "I h- I had a talk with the universe and she and I are so good and she is seeing me where"Oh, I booked another Es- Akashic Re- Records gig, that's what it was.Yeah.So 2, actually.I booked 2.So, um- Isn't it wild though when you walk through that fear and you think, you're like, "Oh, okay, I'm getting rid of this income that has been steady income that I know I can rely on, I don't know if something is going to come next"?Okay, but could it be better than you even thought?Could it actually be more than you even thought?Could you walk a different path?Is thereI think that's a really beautiful message right now to remind people.Like open your eyes to what's opening up to you, because it may not be the path that you originally thought you were gonna take, but it's a path that is meant for you if it's calling in your heart, even just a tiny bit.Even just a little bit.I feel like was that what the refillery was for you?Was that like a calling tiny in your heart that kind of grew louder and louder and louder until you just couldn't ignore it anymore?100%.100%.I was actually, I mean, I've been thinking, there's another gal in our little Kundalini group, Heather, who started a refillery in California.Yes, yeah, yeah, Golden Triangle.Golden Triangle.And I, I absolutely loved her idea.She first started it as a mobile business, went brick, and I think she's mobile again, um, brick and mortar.And I've always just from afar said, "Girl, I love this."I am so, like, non-toxic, sustainably, you know, made and sourced in my own home as much as possible while giving myself that grace that nothing, no one's perfect.Um, but I, it came, it dropped in while I was on massage table talking to my girlfriend who's my massage therapist, we do trades, and I just started talking through it, and I, there's a refillery that I go to, but I live in kind of remote northern Michigan.I live where people come to play, so I get to live in the beautiful area all the time.However, what that means is in my tiny town, I cannot buy underpants, you know?Like you have to go to the places, you know.It's like we grew up in Key West, we had like a Kmart basically and that was it.Yes.If you wanted- We had a Kmart.like a Target or anything- Yes.like you had to go hours.We had a Kmart and the Kmart closed.No!Ours did too.My, my lovely underpants walked away from me.Oh my goodness.So now, I drive an hour, 20 minutes at the least to another tiny town, but my booming metropolis that is Traverse City, Michigan is an hour south of me, um.All you winos know because it's a great beautiful s- place for wine, um, but I would go to this refillery and I loved it.They had 2 locations, but that doesn't mean that my time and my bus- you know, my open hours aligned with their open hours.Oh, yeah.And I just couldn't get there.So I was talking to my friend, I'm on the table because I don't drift off, I, I let- You never.my body relax.Oh my gosh, no.I, I wanna be left alone.Like please.Oh.I wish I could but I'm more like, "Murder me," so that's not gonna, you know, I'm not gonna fall asleep.But we were talking about it and I was kind of just venting my frustrations about not having such non-toxic and especially sustainably made and sourced products made in the US available anywhere, and that I couldn't just get there and that I was forced to go to the grocery store and get the best that I could get in a plastic jug and I was lamenting.Mm-hmm.And so I was like, "Well, so you fill a need.You answer a call, you answer a question, and you fill a need," and as we talked and I was like, "Well, I could do this and I could do this and I could make this and I could do this," and my friend is just laughing because she knows my brain and- Right, like it's already spinning, it's already happening.Oh, I created a whole business and inside about 10 minutes on the table, and I was like, "So yeah, I guess I just started a new business."And she's like, "Did this, did that just happen in real time?"I said, "Yeah."Yeah.Yeah.That's when you're in flow, when you're aligned, and actually I love this example with the massage as well because you're moving fascia, you're moving energy out- Yes.of your body.You're talking things out.Like it's all an energetic exchange and honestly that's why I th- I believe more people should get massages because you need that body work, you need to get that energy, I mean, like physically out of your body.Yeah.Um, but what a beautiful way to like have something flow and land through you during that time, and it can be that simple, ladies.And men, I guess, if you're listening but- Yeah.it can be that simple if you are in tune with yourself, if you are in tune with also how your mind works because I feel like you're using your own energy to your advantage, right?And that's a beautiful thing 'cause you're a projector also, aren't you?I'm a manifesting generator.Oh, no wonder.Yeah.No wonder.So you're harnessing all of these million ideas.Well, you're supposed to start them and pass them off, but- That's what I do- Yeah.well, and then I end up doing it myself when I can't find anyone else else to do it.We gotta fix that.We gotta fix that.All right, anyone listening- Yeah.if you need a business idea- Yeah.Lindsay can probably give you the business idea.Call me.And then you just take it, just take it.I'm busy.I know because if you really think about it, all of the different businesses that you're running, 'cause you've also got Walter Wellness.Yes.And, you know, it's, it's, uh, it's amazing.I really wanna actually talk about that because I think you and Dan have such a beautiful relationship.And y- I think you support one another, but also he has his own kind of spirituality that he really- Yeah.leans into.How, how did that come about?How is it working with him?'Cause I know some people in, like, saying, "Oh, I'm gonna work with my spouse," would immediately cringe.Me, uh, me, I love my husband but do not need to work with him.Yeah.That's good.H- Uh, yeah, how's it going?How did it come about?Tell us more.Yeah.Well, we can work together but we cannot move furniture together.That's our rule.Got it.That's the thing that cannot be done.Yeah.You know your boundaries, and that's important.Yes.Uh, we'veIt's a learned boundary but, you know, we get there.But, so Dan is an alcoholic, and he was on his own men's retreat, gosh, it'sWe're coming up on 2 years ago.And he was really just k- And this was in the same time that I, you know, he had his, um, reading with you and he was going through just a traumatic loss and, um, wasn't feeling well.first of all, he wasn't feelHe was not home with himself and he wasn't physically feeling well.And he felt very called to go on this men's retreat and I said, "Please go, do, be," um, at this beautiful place that really felt safe for him.So he went and on the Saturday at one of the points of the day, they did like a 3hour just alone time, you know, solo journeying.And he grabbed his crystals and he grabbed his journal and he sat in the woods and he's like, "Okay, I built this altar.I have my journal.I don't, I don't know what I'm gonna write.I don't know what to do."So he just called in his guides and he asked for guidance.He said, "I don't know what I'm supposed to write.Can you help to, you know, to start to flow through me with your guidance?"And he said, "I put pen to paper and I wrote a goodbye letter to alcohol."awesome.And he quit cold turkey then and there.Wow.And he has not looked back since, and it's amazing.And I had had my own similar breakup with alcohol.I don't struggle with alcoholism personally, but it just doesn't like my body.I love, I- Um, honestly, I, anymore, I really, I really don't.The last- Yeah.time I had a glass of wine, I woke up and felt sick the next day.Actually, I got nauseous in the car and threw up.And I literally- Yeah.had only had, like, one glass of wine the night before.It was crazy.Yes, yes.So, you know, and it was one of those things that I was like, "I don'tThis isn't for me.This, I-" No, it doesn't feel good anymore.I- It doesn't serve me.Yes.Like, there's no reason to continue this.And you're not alone.I feel like there's so many of my friends that are now sober curious or not even- Yeah.labeling it.Like we, we joked in, um, my Queen of Hearts group that we were, like, accidental, you know, like, we're accidentally sober, you know?Yes.And it was kind of like, "Okay, we'll just see how long it goes for."Like, "We're not gonna try-" Totally." hold ourselves to anything," but I think- Yeah.most of us have not drank since then.Yes, absolutely.Well, I hadI basicallyThat Thursday before he went on his retreat, I woke up.I'd had a cocktail the night before with a girlfriend out to dinner and woke up hungover, and I had to cancel clients I was so ill.And I was like, "I'm done.This isn't, this isn't s-" This isn'tThis is costing me money.Yeah, this is- This is costing me my livelihood.Yes.And so he was like, "Cool."And then he came home and he was like, "I said goodbye to alcohol."And it was one of those, thoseAnd I should alsoI really wanna put in this caveat, our sobriety is our story and we have 0 judgment- Absolutely.over anyone's lifestyle, anyone's choices, um- When the cutting the cold turkey too, that was Dan's journey.Like, you know- That was, mm-that may not be your journey.I don't necessarily recommend to do that unless you have support.But he had support, soOh.Yes.Yes.And actually, when he, they'd gone back into the circle, um, you know, in a, those retreats who you don't really say much once you've left that sacred space, but what he did share was that he shared with the group and they, that he had said goodbye.And he, they were just making sure that he had support, and he's like, "Actually, my wife just did the same thing," so, so through that, um, we started to heal.We started to heal ourselves physically, emotionally, mentally, spiritually.He went through his own huge healing journey, and we found ourselves- Like, did you as a couple w- uh, not that you had riffs before at all, but like did you notice that there was cracks that you didn't even know had been there, and now that there was no alcohol, there was no anything, like things were glaring?Or it was more like, "Ooh, okay.We better fix this before it gets bad"?Right.So we have g- already gone through so much as a couple.We've been together for s- 6?7, 7 years.Married for one.And we had already gone throughThe ringer.Yeah.The ringer.That's the way that I know that Dan is my ultimate person is because we just can't quit each other.You know?It's like there have been so many easy outs- Yeah.and- 'Cause you make each other better, which is a really beautiful thing.We do, and we love each other so much in a very healthy, non-co-dependent, we know that we are very standalone, independently, that we can live on our own 2 feet, but we choose- Yeah.to come back together all the time.And I, when we've had really, like those really difficult talks of this isn't working, that these aren't, this isn't working talks, I, I always say, "I want, I wanna break up with this relationship, and I want to, you know, de- devote myself to you again.I love you so much, but I wanna break up with this-" Yeah." leave it in the past, not bring it up again.We're just, let's heal from this, let's move on."Yeah.And not in a way that we're like stuffing, but in a like, "Let's talk about this, let's put this- Yes." to bed, and let's just, like, you know, re-devote ourselves."We have done that- Absolutely.You have to though.Like it's a- Yes.and it, it happens over and over again, and you know, I, it's hard.That's probably why the divorce rate is so fucking high, because it's hard.It's hard to have to choose one another over and over again, but when you find that person that's worth doing that, because- Oh, yeah.let me just say, guys, you are here to grow and learn and expand and evolve, so if the person- Yes.that you're with isn't doing that for you in a healthy way, isn't helping you do that in a healthy way, I'm just gonna leave that out there as a question of like, do you wanna do something about that?Because- Yeah.life, yes, can be very challenging when you're in those kinds of relationships, but also very rewarding and very fulfilling and can help you get through a lot of the stuff that you're meant to learn here on Earth and that you're meant to experience, because- Yeah.kinda coming back to those Akashic Records, right, like, you come here for a reason, and you come here not remembering that reason , and having to go through all of these things to get back to that place.But you chose that.You chose- Yep.to do that here, right now, in an earthly body, because that's the only way that you can experience those feelings.That's the only way that you can experience and alchemize those sensations.Yeah.And also because of, right, the connection with other humans, because I don't believe when we're like beings of light or whatever floating around in the sky that we're like really connecting with others very much.I feel like we're probably very living a l- a lonely existence, I'm guessing.I have no idea.But, that connection is really important.How do you keep that connection alive as part of your relationship but also part of your business?It's our constant growth.It's our constant learning and exploring curiosities together.We read books.We listen to podcasts.We talk about it.We don't like, we don't watch shows, um, Dan, first of all, is a Virgo male.HeMy husband's a Virgo too.Yeah.And- And I should also say, by the way, not to interrupt you, but that you also- Sure.have a child, so I think that's- Yes.important to share too because I don't want- De-people to think that like, "Oh, it's just you and Dan, like la la la."No, you're also parents, and- Yes.you know, on top of all of this.We have 2 kids.Yes.And that's important.We have 2 kids.Yeah.Dan came to the relationship with a kiddo.I came to the relationship with a kiddo.We have a beautiful blended family.Our oldest is launched, and they live in Colorado, and i- they're doing well and we just, mm, love them, love them.Um, we, and then we have Iver who's our son who is a high school freshman and growing- He doesn't seem like a freshman now.I know.He's gonna be 15 years old.He's like getting a girlfriend.It's like a thing.Um , it's like a whole thing.But we let, it just kind of started part of with our ev- we used to sit down and like, you know, we would binge-watch all of our shows and it was like our alone time at night.But then at 1 point I said, "You know, we're doing thisBut I'm not talking to you.No.Like, we're sitting in the same room- And you're probably also scrolling your phone- Yes.while you're looking at a screen.We're snacking, we're binge watching, we're doomscrolling, we're sitting and, you know, he's like, he's like, he's so lovey-dovey and affectionate with the hugs and the kisses but he's not a cuddler.So, like, he's in this chair, I'm on the couch.Like, we're not even sit- we're not even touching for hours, and I'm like, and then we go to bed exhausted.Yeah.And I'm like, "Th- th- n- this isn't working."So we started to subscribe to One Commune and Gaia and all these beautiful networks from various other teachers and we just started to learn, and we would go through different things, like, weLast winter was the winter of the gut microbiome.And we learned everything and we changed things so then we started to talk about- I was like, "It's important actually."Oh my gosh.And we startedAnd then through that he started his certification to become a nutritionist because he wanted- So cool.to heal his own gut because, you know, a lot of beer over the years doesn't- Men have a lot of gut issues and don't realize it at all because- No.it affects with other things- Well, and I think so-but maybe not as many as we do.I think society says men are supposed to fart.You know?Like, they're supposed to be like the Homer Simpson beer-in-hand gut bombs kind of thing, and it doesn't have to be.You can- Sure.you do you, boo.But like, there are things.So he on his ever, you know, evolving mission to just be his best self decided to go after the certification so that he can teach others as well, and he's a chef.He's a chef in the summer and a carpenter in the winter through his job.That's so cool.He works for a private club, so- Oh, that's cool.Yeah, so he's working at creating programs within this club to, um, heighten their nutritional offerings, so it's cool, but so thus the beginning of Walter Wellness.We started to spend time talking about the- Together.Yes.Actually talking, saying, "Oh, hi handsome.I remember what you look like and what you're, you knowOh, you do have brown eyes.This is amazing."So we were doing that and we were talking and I s- and he started really getting into breath work, pranayama.He took his yogar tee- yoga teacher training because he felt through his breath work training that it wasn't enough and he felt like he needed to really truly understand pranayama, um, on a yogic level truly, and a spiritual level.So he went and did that.So we're constantly getting new certifications, supporting each other through ev- all of our curiosities, and then we come together and we talk about it and we support it.And I said, "Well, you know, I have the Wellbeing Day Spa but it's really just massage.There's so much more to what we do."I'm now also certified in breath for- breath work facilitating and meditation guidance and teaching and all of these other amazing things.I said, "You know, our offerings are a lot more vast than what I'm doing and I think it's time to come together and do this together."And he was all for it, and so that is what was the catalyst for it.I love that.That's really beautiful that his whole journey, um, sparked something for you too, right?I think that ripple effect is important because we think sometimes that maybe our own healing journey is selfish or that we are gonna affect those around us because we choose to go do something with our lives and yeah, you are, but it's gonna be in a good way and it's gonna hopefully be in a positive way because they are gonna want, you know, what, what you have, right?It's like- Yeah."Oh, how about what she's having?I see that she's radiant.I see that she's glowing.I see that, you know, she's made these changes and it's making a difference."And, you know, I think obviously your, your kids see that too, right?You, they see the shift in both of you- Yeah.and that just fuels things even more.Mm-hmm.What would you say, you know, as you've been on this spiritual journey and this path as a woman and a mom and, you know, you're moving through your own transitions of life, what has been, I don't know, the, the best advice that you have found to navigate all of these kind of transitions and changes of life, and navigate the shedding and navigate, you know, almost the, the death and rebirth cycle that women go through- Yeah.every single month?I think I could say 3 things.1, go for it.When you feel the urge to release something, when you find that things are not working and you're just butting up against that same doorway but not opening that door, it's time to open the door and go for it, huge.Um, as a woman, um, be normalizing complaining, right?And I don't even like the word complaining or venting, just truly vocalizing the thoughts and the feelings and the emotions and what you're going through.Um, I think it'sThat's huge.You know, growing up as, you know, the elder millennial, um, we, it was kindI grew up in a very much like a if-you-got-time-to-lean-type-, you-got-time-to-clean household where we were always do, do, do.We were not in our feelings.We didn't talk about things.I talked to my mom so much more as an adult than I ever did as a child, and I just held things and it was like we weren't allowed to express.Express, that's a better way, better word.Um, we weren't allowed to reallyOr we didn't feel like there was a safe space to express what we were truly going through.We just kinda had to be like, "Hey, there are people starving on the streets and you live in a big, you know, beautiful home that has *******."Yeah, like, "Get 0 get over it."Get over it.You know what that makes me think of?Like, the'Cause I, you know, I'm a millennial as well.We played in our rooms a lot.I was always in my room playing.I didn't play in the living room.Whereas like- No.my kids now?Are you kidding me?They're all over the living room.They're all over the- Yeah.******* house.Like- Yes.everything is theirs.Whereas, like, it was not like that for us growing up.It was like, "You're gonna keep your shit in your room.Your feelings stay there, your toys stay there."Like- Yeah."Don't bring that anywhere else in this house."Ivar didn't have toys.Like, when I, when IHe was a baby, like an infant, I was like, "He's a blob.Why does he have toyNo, we don't need to, we don't need toys."And then he started to crawl and, you know, we had the, like, I had some blocks and I had things and we talked about colors and numbers when we did the tactile things.But, like, I went to a friend's house and her living room was covered in toys and I was like, "Oh my God, your house is so fun compared to my house.And also, Ivar needs more stimulation.Toys are a thing.Like, we get our kids toys?"And she's like, "Yeah, you put them on, they crawl around, they play with the things, they feel the things.It's more than blocks, Lindsey."I'm like, "OhOh my God."SoBut I had a cleanI lived in a clean house with likeThe toys weren't present.They were in my room.Yeah.They were in my room.And you learn, like, it'sYes.It'sThere are, there are so many things of momhood that I feel bad for my firstborn.I'm like, "Ooh, IYou're my training wheels."Like- Yeah."Sorry."Yeah, totally, totally.But, you know, this summer I found myself in such extreme burnout that- Oh.I was- I'm sorry to hear that.Yeah.I was, um, suicidal and like- Lindsey.Yeah.It was really dark and deep, right?So again, I had forgotten my tools.I wasn't using my tools.And Dan is such a safeMy first husband wasn't.I didn't feel safe.I- I'm no longer in that marriage.But Dan is such a safe person for me to talk to that I started to tell him what was going on in my head.You know, it was the, "I'm not going to leave this Earth.I'm meant to be here right now.I don't have plans."But when I say, "Oh, I should do the dishes," to myself, then something else in my brain goes, "Or just go die.Just go die.That's better.Just go die."Wow, intrusive thoughts.It's bad.And is thisI mean, was this the first time you've experienced it this badly and you've had them before or- This bad.I had had them before.Um, got on meds, you know, was feeling great.But it was one of those things where, and this is that normalizing expressing what you're going through.I didn't know that it was okay to say, "Hey, I'm not okay."Um, "We need to do something because I'm very much not okay.And will you help me navigate this time to figure out where I need to go next?"Exactly.And it doesn't make you weak at all.Actually, it makes you s- so strong.Yes.And those intrusive thoughts are not normal, guys, because- Oh, no, they're not.And, and we think they are.Like, I, I did experience, uh, some after having my oldest, Sebastian.I had bad postpartum anxiety.And I didn't know that that's what it was.I just thought thatThe thought of walking down the stairs carrying my baby, "What if I, what if I throw him over?What if- Yeah.I trip and fall?"Yeah.What if youLike, "Why the fuck, what?Why am- Yeah.I thinking of that?I'm not gonna throw my baby over the railing."Right.Like, what?Oh my gosh, yes.But your brain says crazy shit.Like- Your brain says crazy shit.Like- Yeah.But so this is that normalcy.Be, you knowReally know that it's okay toyou know, as you're going through it, right?We're all kind of going through it right now, and it's okay.And I think that we're like, "Oh, but everyone's going through it, so like, you know, you're not special."It is 100% okay to be like, "Hey, so things need to change."And it could be your spouse, it could be your mom, it could be a friend.It could be another m- group, you know, like playtime mommy group friend.Like, it doesn't matter who your safe person to chat with is.But, so I tookI started to actually allow myself to release the guilt of expressing what I was going through.So, I just wentfirst of all, you know, just go for it.Go through the thing.When you want to ch- make changes, make those changes, express what you're going through, ask for help.ILike, Dan anticipates my needs like you wouldn't believe.Like, people are like, "Oh, I have a honey-do list."first of all, I don't, because Dan makes his own list.And he just builds things.He puts things on the wall.He folds the laundry.Like he justWhatever it is that I need, I come home and the m- you know, dinner is cooked, the kitchen is clean.It doesn't matter.We don'tWe're very gender neutral in our home and don't have his, his or her chores.We justOr we call our home- We have no chores, yeah.Yeah.We call our home a community.So, whatever the community needs, we do.But, um, yeah, askingI didn't really realize that I could ask him for help, because he already does the help before I've ever really needed to ask.But I got to a place where I was like, "Honey, will you help me?Will you help me?"It's vulnerable.And you think that you have been vulnerable with your spouse before, or I have thought that in the past.Yeah.But those momentsBecause you're literally like, "I'm laying this all out and you could-" Yes."reject this.You could act not the way that I want you to."And thankfully, my husband is also my safe space, uh, because we chose kings, you know, not-not little froggies.Yeah.But, um, I digress.But, you know, I, I, I want to acknowledge that it is really vulnerable, and it, it can be really hard, even if you have a good relationship- Yes.to be able to share these things, because they need to be said also, because y- your husband, your spouse, your partner w- whatDoesn't matter if they're male or female- Yeah.cannot read your mind.Right.And actually, their perception is gonna be very different than yours.They have a very different perception of reality, and that has been the biggest thing for me lately, is to realize that our perceptions are s- are different, and taking- Oh.those moments to go, "Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait.Why are they different?"Because- Yeah.I, I see something veryYou know?And you have to come back to- together and say, "Oh, I'm looking at that through my wounding.Oh, I'm looking at that because actually I'm cranky, I didn't get enough sleep, blah, blah, blah."Like, it takes that communication and that coming back together, and I think that's really important, which I'm sure leads you to the third thing you were gonna say that we keep not getting to, because I keep cutting you off.Oh, that's okay.And guess what?I forgot it.I think it had something to do- No, it was the asking for help.Well, the first 2 were really fucking strong, so you're good.No, it was the, it was the asking for help.Yes.Okay.Because whateverAnd even if that means, "Hey, I want to start a business.Hey, I want to go on vacation.Hey, I w- I need this in my life."Um, ask for help doing it- doing it.I'm the middle child, so I'm like over-independent at times.So, asking for anything.So when, when I realized "I'm in the deep- a really deep, dark place," it was, "Walk through that door and make that change.It's something's gotta give, and what is it?"And that was when I said, "Massage has to go.I don't know when, but it has to go and I need to work for it."And Dan said, "Absolutely, yes, it does."So, I said, "Okay."And so we had talked about the refillery like in the spring, like maybe March?And I was like, "You know, but I don't think this is the right time."And he's like, "I"And w- as soon as I came home and I said, "Honey, guess what I thought about?"He was on board.HeThis isHe's on board.He's sending me things.He's making things on Pinterest.He's- He's probably already building you the bus, like and the, the- He's doing all of the things.And so I'm like, "Yeah, we're doing it."But then he's like, "You know"And weI mean, he was looking at 5gallon drums or 55-gallon drums, and we were pricing and we were budgeting and doing all the building the business plan things.Um, but then we said, "You know, I don't really think this is the right time.Let's table this.It doesn't feel like this is the right time."So then, in June, end of June, July, I mean, I launched this July 19th, and I think I started ordering at the very end of June.So I think maybe mid-June, I was like, "This is happening."And I said, I said, "I think this is the time.This is what I'm going to do instead."And he said, "Love that for you.How can I help?"And so now, as we're going through this journey, so that was that opening the door.That was that vocalizing.That was that asking for help.And now, Walter Wellness is evolving because at th- by the end of the summer, he was like, "I'm burnt out from work.I feel disconnected.I don't feel like this-" That ripple effect.Yeah.Oh, wait a second.Oh, he's like, "I think I burnt, you know, that match, I'm at the end of my matchstick.I need to take some time from Walter Wellness.I can't think about breath work.I can't think about things right now.I need to reconnect with me and think about how I want to go forward."So I said, "Sure."So working together, we're not 9tofivers.We're, you know, we ebb and flow in our responsibilities.He's Mr. Research.I'm Miss Do.I love to chat.He will chat, but he prefers to be the fly on the wall.So, he does a lot of behind- He has that nice little, like, yin yang balance.Yes.What is his human design?Good question.I don't remember.We did this for him, but I don't remember what it is.Wait- Ah, no, that would be just interesting to see.I think he's just a generator.I don't think he's manifesting generator.I think he's just a generator.Well, that's perfect because then he's the person you pass stuff to.Yes.You're like, "Okay, I got the idea.You go do it."Yes."I got the idea, you go do it."Uh-huh.Yes.I love that.But I- SoIt's so good to see, though, that, that, well, the tools work, first of all, right?Yes.Right, the 3 tools.And also just to- Keep going back to 'em.like, but that our, our lives are such, um, uh, what, I can't even think of the word I'm looking for, but that, like, really, that our spiri- our lives are spiritual, and they are our business, and everything is all the same, right?And so when you make those big strides in your personal life, it's gonna make strides for you in your business and vice versa.And that that energy is continuously feeding one another, um, and that really coming back to what is important.And, uh, I wanted to make sure to mention too that the talking to the guides piece because I think- Mm-hmm.that's a good takeaway for folks that, you know, even if you're not as woo-woo perhaps as Lindsey and I are.Maybe you're like, "Eh, the Akashic records are weird.Like, I wish you'd stop talking about it, Victoria."Sorry.I'll never stop talking about it.Never-endingBut- They are us.But what you can do is, is the exact thing that Dan did.When you are struggling, when you are unsure of your next step, when you need some support, ask your guides, ask your guides, ask your angels, ask your ancestors- Yes.because you do have a spirit team out there to support you, and it's like any relationship, right?It's gonna grow when you put time into it.It's gonna grow when you ask.You have to ask for support.You have so many people out there ready to support you.But if you don't ask for it, if you don't walk through that door, if you don't vocalize what you need, even to your spirit team, they cannot help you- Mm-hmm.because they cannot interfere because we have free will.Yeah.So you have to ask.And that can be as dramatic as falling to your knees and surrender.I mean, that's what I did after my miscarriage.It could be by yourself in the woods.It could literally be while you're washing dishes, being like, "Please, please help me."Um, any other advice or, or thoughts on that?But I, I wanted people to have that little kind of takeaway, that nugget that, like, again, everything is already freed inside of you.And if for any reason you forget, you do have- Mm-hmm.a team that can help you remember.I always say, "Pay attention to what drops in, and believe it."It's that believing piece, right?So, you know, I will have clients that will say, "Well, I, I asked for guidance, and I thought, I asked to see a peacock, and then I saw a sticker on a water bottle of a peacock as an affirmation- But that can't be it.that I'm around, but I just, I mean, why would it be there?So I don't think that was it."And I'm likeYou don't need a signy or sign.Believe it.Believe it.You know?"Well, it was, something was called Peacock Blue, but I don't know if that was it."Girlfriend, yes, it was.It was Peacock Blue.There's, they're there, and you've asked for a sign, an affirmation that your guides are around you.You vocalized what that sign is.You called that in.They showed up.What else m- what else do you want?So I always say, just believe, and on top of that, the more you act on the guidance you receive, the more abundant and the more clear that guidance will be for you because you're building that relationship.You are answering a call.I always say your guides are there for you.They've chosen you.Your ancestors whom, your angel team, it doesn't matter.They love you so much, and all they want to do is help you to live your divine purpose in this life.So when you call on them, they're there.So when you get that guidance, d- whatever clair- it is that you receive your guidance through, clairsentience, clairvoyance, um, receive it, believe it, and act on it, and it'll be amazing.how fast that can- Things can shift like this.It's amazing.And it's the action piece, too, that maybe people get caught up in, but it doesn't have to be a big action.Like, perfect example- No.II mean, it took me a year to do this, so, eh, maybe it's not the best example of doing it quickly.But I heard the words Magenta Heart Productions about a year ago after I went to a Rose Priestess Retreat.And I bought the LLC, and I've been kind of doing things under Magenta Heart Productions, but I just finally realized and put a website up, like, yesterday.Because I was like, "Oh, that's all the podcasting I've been doing, the website design I've been doing."Like, all these other behind the scenes things.Well, so I put that up and said, "Okay, universe, this is my, like, yes.Okay, I hear your sign.I'm gonna follow the sign.I'm gonna get this up."Immediately last night, there was a speaking opportunity that, like, came up, that was like, bing.Okay.Yeah.But it was very subtle, you know?And it's a speaking opportunity that Ioh, I saw it 'cause I was scrolling Instagram, and so someone might say, "Oh, you're scrolling Instagram."Like, that's not it.It's- It speaks through Instagram too, bitch.LikeAh, yes.It'sWhatever the delivery system is that you choose, it drops in.It drops in.I will tell my funny story, um, about how everything came to be because it falls right in line with what you just said.Um, so, I dying, dying for balance in my life.This was years ago.This was, like, 2017.Um, and it was a beautiful spring day in Northern Michigan, like, which means that there weren't as many snow mounds out.And all of a sudden, it was like, "You need to go for a walk."So I was like, "Okay.I guess we're going for a walk.It is beautiful.I've got time."So, I got on my shoes, and I went for a walk.And here I am walking, doing my hot girl mental health walk that I love, and it dropped in, "You should listen to a podcast."I had never2017, podcasts are not b-you know, especially pre-COVID, podcasts were just- No.You know, I mean, Joe Rogan, of course, was on there but like, you know, that's about it.So, I put on a p- And when we say dropped into our mind, people don't realize, like, y- you had a thought.I had a thought.Yeah.But that's really what it is.I had a thought- When you're being guided, it is a thought that comes in your own voice that is- Yeah.from your own mind, like, ah.I think most of you maybe know that if you're listening to me right now, but just in case you don't.Yes.Although, when my guides talk to me, they have 4 different voices.Male.I forgot.Yeah, you have all, like, the all, the group.Y- yeah.I've got the 4 corners, and they'reYes.They're male.They're different.It's, they're fabulous.LoveBut, anyway, so, yes.That's what was dropped in, but I do hear my own voice too.Um, so I know when it's them versus not.But, anyway.So, it was, you know, "Put on a podcast," and I was like, "Okay."Literally, my iPhone opened the pod- the Apple Podcast app.Didn't know anything else.I don't think I'd even, like, downloaded anything.Was Spotify a thing in 2017?I don't even know.I don't know.Maybe, if it was- I didn'tUnlike, you know, we're pre-Google here, so, like- I know.who knows?It's hilarious.Remember, like, the Myspace days, when I used to, like, personally- Oh.code my own, like, AIM profile.Like, no wonder- Yes.I'm designing websites today.Like- Yeah.Of course.Oh, I had, like, Coach purses as my background, and when I was mad at someone, they were out of my top 6 or top 10 or whatever.Oh, yes.Oh, wait.Did you make those little, um, those little Barbies, where it was like you could do their heads and their clothes and their pants?Was that just me?No, I wasn't that cool.Oh my God, those things were so fun.Anyway, I digress.So, yeah.So, here I am.I'm listeningSo, I open up the podcast app, right?And it's like, um, "Now what?"So, I just put in, like, spiritual podcast, and I chose the podcast based on the art, because I had no idea, and, um, she/it was Ksenia Avdeeva.Then, she's been married.She's changed her name, so I c- I can't, I cannot tell you who it is now.Her name is Ksenia, and she's fabulous.But she had on an Akashic Records reader, andWho also went by Ashley, but now she has a new name, so I don't know what her name is now either.Oh, uh, Align Within.That, that one, right?Yes, Align Within.Yeah, yeah, yeah.Yes, yes, yes, yes.SoBut I put it on.You know, here I am.Just, I'm, I'm taking action on the guidance I'm receiving.That's what I'm doing.and as I'm taking action, this guidance is more clear, more abundant.Do this, do this, do this, yes, you're right.As soon as Ashley started talking about the Akashic Records, I came home to myself likeI'm just gonna say it, it was almost like orgasmic.Yeah.The, the feeling- A Kundalini awakening almost.It was a Kun- yes, it was exactly a Kundalini awakening.It was I'm on a walk and I am like, "Oh my God, I know this," and I'm walking and she's talking and I am like, you know, "Yes, yes."You know?And like yes, all of this, all of this, I know this.I- Yep.It feels right in my body.This is true, this is true.Yes.And I, I was like, "I know these words, I know what she's saying.I know how to do it.I know this."And I came home and I was like, "Dan, you'll never guess."He, oh God, he's so used to me now but this is also a little, I don't know, whatever.We were, we'd, we were living together so we'd been together for a couple of years.Yeah.But I was like, "It's called the Akashic Records and I'm gonna learn everything and I'm gonna get the books and I'm gonna, like, get all of the things and I'm gonna learn how to do this again 'cause I know I already know how to do it."And he was like, "Love that for you.Yep.Do it."Check.And if you had never done that, then you never would have- Oh.like, fallen down the rabbit hole, gone down this path, like- Yes.done all of these amazing things, you know.I, I've loved this conversation.Is there anything that you want to leave the Flip the Script with a thick listeners with?And then of course please share where they can find you, um, what you've got going on and all that good stuff.But I would- Sure, sure.I would love for them to leave with just some, some words of Lindsey wins- wisdom.Yes.Okay, so then I'll start with where to find me and then I'll finish with my words.Um, so, uh, you can find me at walterwellness.com and mimoblerefillery.com.I do ship nationwide.It's M-I for Michigan, mimoblerefillery.com.You'll find all my socials, all my stuff through there.Um, I'm on Inst- I'm everywhere.So those are the 2 places to find me.I hope you that you do, please connect.Um, my words of wisdom to part this also, Victoria, I love you so much.I love you.Thank you for this lovely convo.It's such a good conversation like, I- Yes.m- the joy that I've been getting from doing these, I don't think people realize it's been really fun.I admire and love and talk to all the women that I've been, like, recording with but to get to have this dedicated time to just be in your energy and be with you has been really special.Oh, yeah.So thank you too.Likewise.Thank you, thank you.But my parting words for anyone who is listening, watching on YouTube that as either Victoria and I talked today if you found yourself nodding your head, you know, as I did on my Hot Girl Mental Health walk, as we all do, if there, if there is something that truly resonated with you, sit with that, journal it, get a pen and paper to get it down so you don't forget.I'm getting chills as I'm saying this but really pay attention and again take action on whatever it is and Victoria's here to support you, I'm here to support you.Whatever it is you need you have guidance, you have people that will help you so open that door, take the guidance, ask for help and it's amazing what will happen.So as you're nodding your head pay attention to those nods.Yes, the nods mean something.Your body is always, always, always talking to you.Yes.Lindsey, oh, thank you so much.Thank you.Your journey is just so beautiful and Dan too is an inspiration for what can happen when you start to listen to that intuition, when you open yourself up to change from the universe and you really- Yeah.take that action and go for it.I know that action can be really scary for some people but those little actions add up and actually that's what you are such a good example of is that over time, little by little, those little things are really what make a life and what make you radiant and grounded and so please, please, please go find Lindsey.If you guys are in Michigan, call up I guess the, or find the Mobile Refillery- Stop.order online.I'm like, I don't know, do you go door to door?UmYes, I do.I'm the milkman for, like, non-toxic sustainable living supplies- Oh.for home and body.I love that.Yeah, you put- Yeah.your jars out and I fill them.Oh my gosh, yes.So please, please if you are in Michigan reach out, mimoblerrefillery.com.Thank you guys so much for being here.Be good to one another.I'll see you next week.Mwah.Thank you.