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What is Man in America Podcast?

Seth Holehouse is a TV personality, YouTuber, podcaster, and patriot who became a household name in 2020 after his video exposing election fraud was tweeted, shared, uploaded, and pinned by President Donald Trump — reaching hundreds of millions worldwide.

Titled The Plot to Steal America, the video was created with a mission to warn Americans about the communist threat to our nation—a mission that’s been at the forefront of Seth’s life for nearly two decades.

After 10 years behind the scenes at The Epoch Times, launching his own show was the logical next step. Since its debut, Seth’s show “Man in America” has garnered 1M+ viewers on a monthly basis as his commitment to bring hope to patriots and to fight communism and socialism grows daily. His guests have included Peter Navarro, Kash Patel, Senator Wendy Rogers, General Michael Flynn, and General Robert Spalding.

He is also a regular speaker at the “ReAwaken America Tour” alongside Eric Trump, Mike Lindell, Gen. Flynn.

Seth Holehouse: 00:00

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to man in America. I'm your host, Seth Holhaus. Have you ever had this feeling that you can't talk to a lot of people about the stuff that you're watching? You can't go tell your spouse or your children about this crazy interview you just saw on man in America or this, you know, crazy article you saw or some really important book you came across that talks about the history of these bloodlines. I think it's probably pretty common because even though there is this massive awakening happening, everyone's at their different stages.

Seth Holehouse: 00:33

And whether someone's at the place where they're gonna get into a discussion that we might be having on this show, not as easy to find those people. So that's part of the reason why I like having different guests on the show that I can talk to is that you can enter into that conversation with us and hear the just the thoughts and musings of people that are trying to understand things the same way that you are. And so my guest today is my very good friend, Sarah Westall, who has her own show, which I highly recommend you check out. And today's discussion is really just gonna be about where we're at right now. Where are we at in this war?

Seth Holehouse: 01:04

What's coming next? What's gonna happen with the election coming up? Is the great awakening really, really happening? Is it enough? What's the plan of the cabal?

Seth Holehouse: 01:14

I mean, just take me a hard look at just where this war for freedom and against humanity really is. So, folks, please enjoy the interview with Sarah Westall. Sarah, it's always such a pleasure having you on the show, and you had me on your show recently. And now it's my turn to welcome you as a guest on this show. So thank you for being here.

Speaker 2: 01:37

Well, thank you, and congratulations. You just had a little one. So that is so cool.

Seth Holehouse: 01:42

Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Actually, not I'll tell you. I might have mentioned it in the text, but I'll give you a little more context because you're a mother and you've, you know, had children.

Seth Holehouse: 01:50

And so, you know, we're sitting I think we're actually eating a taco dinner, funny enough. And Kate was saying, I'm I'm feeling these kinda lower back contractions, but it seemed like it wasn't this pregnancy contraction. And I said, okay. Well, we we called the midwife, and she's like, okay. Well, once it feels like it's, you know, the the work needs to be contracting, right, because it's different places you have these contractions, and once it starts building up, let me know.

Seth Holehouse: 02:17

And and and I wrote the time down. I was tracking them, and then within, like, you know, ten minutes, Kate was like, oh, they're getting really, really intense. And they were right in the right place, you know, kind of lower front area. And Yeah. She was so I'm like tracking, and that was like ten, fifteen minutes later.

Seth Holehouse: 02:34

And I called the midwife back. I'm like, you know, I think that you might want to come over now because they seem to be intensifying. And she's like, okay. She's about a half hour away. And I was looked down at the sheet at one point.

Seth Holehouse: 02:46

Was like, oh, they're like every ninety seconds apart. Like, they're they're really intense. And Kate's like, she's really she can bear a lot of pain, but, you know, she's really intense how they were affecting her. I'm thinking, oh, this is okay. And anyway, so, like, five, ten minutes later, she's like, the baby's coming.

Seth Holehouse: 03:07

And I'm like, oh, okay. Okay. So we got the midwife back on the phone. She's driving, and she's like, I'm still twenty five minutes away. She's like, run the bathtub, get Kate in the bathtub.

Seth Holehouse: 03:18

And like, okay. And so we we got her in the bathtub, and I think it was maybe fifteen minutes later that she gave birth. And, you know, I've got the midwife on speakerphone, and I'm sitting there and Kate's in the tub, and and I'm kind of just trying to keep things under control. And Kate did amazing. Like, she just she like stepped into this amazing strong kind of motherhood role where she just took charge of her body, and it was incredible.

Seth Holehouse: 03:44

And then, you know, basically, we had maybe eight inch or 10 inches of water in the tub by that point. And I was like, okay, well, the heads there. And she's like, which way is it facing and do this. And and so they I had basically helped deliver the baby. And we we pulled it out.

Seth Holehouse: 04:00

I put it up on her leg, and it was a little bit lifeless. So I so I had to kind of rub its back or rub her back. Because That's scary little bit? In hindsight, I'd say yes. But at that moment, I was just so focused that that it was Sure.

Seth Holehouse: 04:15

I think the adrenaline was pumping. And and thankfully, you know, we used to watch Call the Midwife all the time. And there's there's a lot of instances where the babies are born. They don't start crying, you know, rub the back really fast. And they do.

Seth Holehouse: 04:28

And so after about, I don't know, twenty seconds or so, you hear her little noises and then she starts crying. And so anyway, it was like, probably one of the most magical experiences I've ever experienced. Oh,

Speaker 2: 04:42

cool is that though. Yeah. That is just so I mean, this is a story you will be telling your kids forever.

Seth Holehouse: 04:48

That's good. Delivered you. Good. And it was really good because for Kate and I, it really, it brought us together in this new way as well. I mean, obviously, we created this child, but to then just to the two of us, to the teamwork of the two of us and some guidance over the phone, but to be able to kind of come together in that moment to bring a child into the world, it was just it's really magical.

Seth Holehouse: 05:11

So I'm still cool. It's been about what ten or eleven twelve days. Don't even know maybe two weeks and I'm still on this. Just this this feeling of life is pretty amazing.

Speaker 2: 05:23

Cloud nine Yeah. Oh, it is amazing. That is the amazing stuff in life, right? I mean, there's so many, we cover so many awful things. But that you got to pause and just soak that in.

Speaker 2: 05:34

Because that's amazing.

Seth Holehouse: 05:36

It is. It's funny, because I think that that can lay the groundwork, I think, for our discussion today. Because so I I interviewed David Martin recently, and I haven't published it yet. But by the time we publish this episode, I think that David will have published. And a lot of this discussion was really just envisioning this world after the the fall of the cabal.

Seth Holehouse: 06:00

Right? It's what's what's the world look like? And I and I feel like for people to go through this process of joining the truth movement or becoming a truther. I hate I hate these names, but, you know, people know what it means when I say that. It's like, okay.

Seth Holehouse: 06:13

You start getting into the bloodlines, and maybe you come across, you know, SRA or any number of things, child sex trafficking, and it's it's you know, the process of waking up is it's kinda like the matrix where Neo wakes up and realizes he lives in this dark world that's run by these robot overlords that are harvesting the the energy off of the bodies, and that's kind of what it's like. It's not this beautiful experience of like, wow, I'm so refreshed. I'm awake now. I mean, it's it's heavy. It's heavy.

Seth Holehouse: 06:43

Yeah. It's

Speaker 2: 06:44

not this beautiful awakening. Yeah.

Seth Holehouse: 06:47

No. But there's so much beauty in it. And this is what the discussion with David was. I think that I'd love to get in this talk with you as well and hear your perspective because you would think that someone like yourself that's on the front lines of understanding the the the minutiae of this elaborate diabolical plan to kill the majority of human beings, which is really what it is, you'd think that you'd be in this place where you're just depressed and paranoid and anxious. And but whenever I've talked to you, you're you're you.

Seth Holehouse: 07:17

You're smiling, and you've got hope, and you see a future. And so how do you process everything you know it's happening, but still have hope for the future and still have energy to fight for the future. Walk us through inside of that beautiful mind of yours.

Speaker 2: 07:37

Well, I gotta tell you, I don't know completely. Why am I capable? Why do I have this laser focus need to fight? Right? And we talked a little bit before we get online about this, the Supreme Court case and some of the things that we've been working behind the scenes.

Speaker 2: 07:52

And I have multiple projects I'm working behind the scenes that keeps me sane because I can't just do interviews. I have to feel like I'm doing something more. You have a young family, and I my family, my kids are grown in college or out of college now, both of them. So I'm in a different state. So I'm sitting there like, I can't not do something.

Speaker 2: 08:11

I have my kids. And I think that, you know, I've been doing this for over ten years. So it was very traumatic and dark as I was learning these things, right? And then you fight and the the fighting and the constant doing this helps you get stronger. Because you know that you have to be in this fight.

Speaker 2: 08:34

You can't just I gotta be honest, there are times where you're like, gosh, I I I'm fighting. I'd rather just stop and wouldn't be have an easy life. But the thing is, is that if you stop, your children will suffer forever and your grandkids. I mean, can't stop. We have to fight this.

Speaker 2: 08:54

And the glimpse of what's on the other side of this is so beautiful. Once you start to realize, well, we've been living in this nightmare our whole lives, we just didn't know it. And then you start realizing what's really going on because in the eighties, the human trafficking got to be a big deal too, right? In the eighties and early nineties, they started and then they squashed it. So this has been going on for a long time, you know, the death of Kennedy with World War Two.

Speaker 2: 09:20

And, and it was an illusion that you weren't in this. And so now opening and awakening your eyes, you're realizing we've been in this this whole time. And so fighting this, and that what's over the rainbow, if you will, is so much more beautiful, Because we'll have the resources to take care of people, or we'll at least not, people won't be stealing all our resources, which is what's going on now. And you have to fight if they're trying to kill you. Right?

Speaker 2: 09:48

I mean, that's one where you just can't not fight. So how do I stay cheerful? I don't know. I'm gonna tell you that right now. Think it's something from God.

Speaker 2: 09:58

Think also just hope around us. Talk

Seth Holehouse: 10:01

about it. I think for a lot of people what keeps what makes them really depressed is that they're sitting alone. Can't talk about that.

Speaker 2: 10:07

That's right.

Seth Holehouse: 10:08

Can't tell their husbands. They can't go to their friends.

Speaker 2: 10:12

If you don't have friends and family of some sort that can relate to you, that would be and you don't have an outlet like what I have, I think that would be incredibly challenging. I think it's important to get friends around you or people that you can talk to. I had a nurse during the middle of COVID, who was the only one in our office. This was early days. She was being forced to take the vaccine.

Speaker 2: 10:35

They're all treating her like crap because she didn't want to do that. And it was incredible, the pressure people had to put up with. And I was sitting, I had dinner with her and said, you just need to find people that you can talk to that you can form a group with, because that group makes a huge difference in your mental well-being. Just does.

Seth Holehouse: 10:57

So something you said I wanted to hone in on a little bit more and how just you're referencing how we're in this nightmare. Like, we're we're we're we really are. And I think that most people don't see it because you're born into it. Right? It's like the the when they say I think after three generations of a wild animal being born in a cage, they'll never know that they're supposed to be living in this beautiful jungle with true freedom.

Seth Holehouse: 11:24

All they know is the cage, and and all their DNA knows is the cage. I mean, I'm sure that there's that there's that animal instinct that's still gonna be there. But I feel like that's part of what really throws things off is that we've become so used to the world as it is, even to a lot of people during COVID saying, like, I just wanna go back to normal. And it's like, well, what what was normal? Like, was normal the eighties or was normal the nineties?

Seth Holehouse: 11:49

But I think that when you go through this process of researching the complex walls that have been built around us, and how there's there's technology out there for free energy. There's technology out there for that could cure cancers, that could there's ways of living that would just not cause cancer. I mean, there's so much that hasn't been given to us, so much buried underneath the Vatican in in the halls of dark layers. There's so much knowledge and information that hasn't been given to us. So we look around at the world, and we think this is just how it is.

Seth Holehouse: 12:27

But, I mean, I think Plato's allegory of the cave is one of the best examples. I mean, we're we've become masters at analyzing the shadows on the wall and think that's the reality when there's actually a whole world with a a sun and trees and birds right outside the mouth of the cave that no one even knows exists. And so I think that and I'm gonna set up this a question coming from this because if you believe, which I do, that if you believe that the evil, this cabal will collapse, that it will meet its end. And if you understand and look at it from that perspective, then you'd have to draw the conclusions that, okay. Well, if there's all these blockades on getting information to us.

Seth Holehouse: 13:11

Right? Say it's free energy. We'll say the guys who invented the water powered cars throughout, you know, the last hundred years that get killed. Right? If there's all this technology and information and secrets locked up, those are locked up because they have the power to lock them up and keep them from us.

Seth Holehouse: 13:27

But if they collapse, they lose the ability to stop that knowledge from reaching us. So that's why I think that it's like as doctor David Martin described, he see he foresees that we're entering the greatest renaissance humanity's ever seen with this. And so I wanna just see from your perspective when you, a, whether you believe that this, you know, entity that we refer to as the cabal, this collective of these evil people, if you believe that they will be meet their end, but then what how you think that will change the world and what you think life will be like on the other side of that. Folks, perhaps you'd agree with me when I say that over the past five years, the mainstream health care systems credibility has plummeted. Alternative health care systems that aren't beholden to medical consensus or big pharma are on the rise.

Seth Holehouse: 14:18

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Speaker 2: 15:16

I think that we're on a precipice where the Internet has created an information flow that has been many to many. Right? We're all talking to each other. When the printing press came out, that was a huge renaissance then because they were able to bring information to people who never had, you know, people could read and see stuff firsthand. Was still a one to many versus a mini to many.

Speaker 2: 15:44

It's a different dimension that's happening now. But during that time, when the printing press came out, the countries there were institutions and countries that did not want this. They didn't want to lose control. They they saw it as a very frightening situation to their power base, you know, something that'll threaten their power base. And so there were many countries that banned the printing press.

Speaker 2: 16:06

The church was fighting like crazy to shut it down because they only wanted their acts, their priests and monks to have access to the Bible, for example. It wasn't universally accepted, but the countries that accepted the printing press flourished. And the ones that didn't economically suffered, and they still are economically suffering today. It was centuries of the economic depression for not going forward and allowing your people to learn and read. It's amazing when you look at when you look at the wealthiest countries today and who supported the printing press.

Speaker 2: 16:44

It goes back to that. Today, it's the same situation, but it's at a whole another level because we're not just talking about a one way communication. We're talking about a two way communication. And there's this explosion of information. When the YouTube first came out, it was an amazing platform that many of us grew up on.

Speaker 2: 17:05

It's like we were adults, but we were children. And we grew up reading and learning all this information that was just really it's like we walked into the light. Right? I don't think they can put the genie back into the bottle of what they created. And I think that's what they're struggling to do.

Speaker 2: 17:22

Want they took the the most powerful enlightening enlightenment tool ever ever be created, which is the Internet and YouTube and Google and stuff, and they turned it and weaponized it against us. And now we're trying to use it as a control to shut us all down and control our thoughts. And, and it's very powerful and we're at a precipice, we're at a turning point. Are we going to allow them to completely take over our ability to communicate and think on our own? Or are we going to be able to reclaim this and get back to the early days where the learning and the flourishing thing is, is that they haven't been able to completely shut it down.

Speaker 2: 18:02

So like Rumble or BitShoot or Bastion, these these these platforms are providing that same information flow. I think Rumble is isn't quite like it used to be. I think there's gonna be some challenges there. But as long as we can keep these spigots of open information, they won't win because there's enough of us that are learning and flourishing, who are we're going to shut them down. But we are at that precipice.

Speaker 2: 18:30

Can we maintain this freedom? So that because we saw a glimpse of it, we now get to see a glimpse of what can occur and how we can grow and flourish. I mean, common law, when I first started covering it, I mean, I think I've done fifty hours of interviews. And when I first started, it was such a foreign concept to almost everybody. Now everyone's talking about common law.

Speaker 2: 18:51

It's becoming more I shouldn't say everybody, but a growing significant group of people are talking about common law. The human trafficking, you know, when I first started covering it, and it wasn't just me, but a group of us, we were I can't tell you how many emails they got telling me that I'm a nutbag and adrenachrome and all these things, and you are just crazy. And now it we had, you know, now we have a great awakening of people realizing that it's a huge part. Now it's happening under our noses at the border. Right?

Speaker 2: 19:22

It's happening everywhere. The bioweapons labs. There were maps of the bioweapons labs in Ukraine. You know, Bruce Gagnon and his name is Brown. He's what is his first name?

Speaker 2: 19:36

He's Jeff Brown. They were covering all that for at least a decade or longer, showing all the bio labs in Ukraine, showing them all over the world. You know, they compared to Japan when that unit in Japan that was doing all those biological experiments during World War II when it was shut down, nobody got prosecuted and they folded it into our intelligence agencies. All these things are coming out and it's becoming more mainstream. Was not none of this was mainstream when we were first covering it and now it is.

Speaker 2: 20:08

So the awakening from my perspective is a tsunami And it's very rewarding to see this stuff happening. But I also see us at this precipice where they have more power than they've ever had to control us from you know, the internet, the high-tech stuff to the not even that's like low tech, really internet and stuff, the high-tech when they start talking about frequency and they're directly trying to control people's emotions with frequency. They're trying to do all this and they have the technology to do it. And we have to be aware that we are at this edge point. Can we push them back or will they push us back?

Speaker 2: 20:49

And the more people that wake up, the less likely they can push us back. And I think we might be at that turning point or the tipping point, if you will, where enough people are awake that the cabal will lose by default. I think we're close to that point. And that's exciting. What will the world look like after?

Speaker 2: 21:10

You know, I still think we're going to keep marching along with this advanced technology. But and I think it'll be incorporated, there will be some inner integration for the purpose of blind people being able to see and handicapped people being able to walk and there being an integration of technology with humanity. There will be some of that period end of story because there's some things that'll help. But what we're going to develop are tools, not only social tools and procedures to ensure that it doesn't hurt mankind and it's more for our benefit, but we're going to develop defensive mechanisms to be able to protect ourselves from these frequencies. Because as much as these frequencies can help us, which will transform every industry, medicine, tech, telecommunications, energy, basic physics, chemistry, the periodic table is going to be upgraded to what people who follow Walter Russell, get a whole new periodic table.

Speaker 2: 22:10

All this stuff is going to shift. But the, the we're going to come up with defense mechanisms that will protect us as much as it, much as it'll help us. But we have to evolve and more people need to learn because right now this advanced technology and this understanding is in the hands of DARPA and these dark projects and the cabal. And we need more and more scientists across the world to understand it so that we can develop it for pro humanity. So we are at a precipice is what I see.

Speaker 2: 22:42

And we are I think we're close to winning this war, but we need to wake more people up and scientists around the world, whether you're trained formally as a scientist or not, because a lot of the university scientists don't understand what this new technology is because they've all been trained wrong. Even the engineers have been trained wrong, I think engineers can pick it up easier because they're more black and white. And I think the science is more like this black box science. But I think that we need or I know we need more of these people coming forward and learning. It doesn't like I was saying, it doesn't have be formally trained scientists, just people who are willing to learn because we need a lot more people who aren't indoctrinated in paradigms that are outdated or just wrong.

Speaker 2: 23:26

And that's we are waking up as from a society standpoint, but we need more people waking up from that standpoint so we can protect ourselves against these weapons. Does that make sense?

Seth Holehouse: 23:38

Oh, it makes perfect sense. And something that makes me, you know, kinda think is that there's a team of people that I know that it's very secretive, but these are highly advanced, you know, sign data scientists and whatnot. And so they're actually building an AI that's a righteous AI that's has, like, foundational principles of good. That's an anti woke, anti communist perspective that so there it's it's almost like instead of competing or thinking, oh my gosh, you look at Google, their AI, and it's so evil. Like, they're they're building the thing that will compete with that to fight against that.

Seth Holehouse: 24:13

So and that's just one little sliver of what's going on, that there are massive movements of people. So but you I wanna hone in on one thing you said. You mentioned that, you know, the great awakening is a tsunami, which I I agree, and I'll give you one little tidbit. So I was buying a a chair off Facebook Marketplace. My wife, you know, she wanted this Pottery Barn nursing chair.

Seth Holehouse: 24:34

And, you know, the one from Pottery Barn, it was gonna take, you know, eight weeks to get in. So we found one locally, and I picked it up. And it was a young guy and his wife that they were selling it, and the guy worked in finance. And it's the kind of guy that would would typically not not like I wouldn't judge him, but I would think, okay. You know, he's probably into sports and, you know, whatnot.

Seth Holehouse: 24:53

And he just seemed like he's just, you know, more into the kind of mainstream things, which is perfectly fine. Right? And we're talking a little bit. And I said, oh, I've got a podcast and I cover stuff. And he looked at me and he was like, hey, have you ever heard of pizzagate?

Seth Holehouse: 25:06

I was like, I was like, oh, have I? And he was like, I've been going down these Reddit rabbit holes lately, and recently, it's been pizza gains. Man, this stuff's pretty crazy. And, like, that's it. But that's that's a that's right there is it.

Seth Holehouse: 25:21

But I wanna ask you though, why why do you think this in this war of of us versus them, of of, you know, we the people, the good people against a small group of, you know, Luciferian evil individuals that wanna have total control, Right? Which is the, you know, it's it's the age old story of, you know, they want global domination. So obviously, there's a war going on. Why do you think and how do you bring perspective to the idea that the way that we best fight the war is through waking people up? Why is it so critical?

Seth Holehouse: 25:57

Why is it that when a lot more people are seeing the truth that therefore means that we have a chance at winning?

Speaker 2: 26:05

Because people inside these organizations will push back. People in critical times will push back. People at local communities will push back. They'll we'll have enough people pushing back in important times and places that'll make the difference. And there'll be so many of us doing that, that they just keep being derailed every step of the way.

Speaker 2: 26:30

And there are people inside these organizations, I like to call them sleeper cells for humanity, that are in there, see what we're talking about, and are just messing them up. They don't know where why does this not work? You know, they keep screwing up. It's because these sleeper cells, these spies for humanity are in these organizations, and they are the ones who are gonna make a difference for us. We we know locally, we have to push it back against all our politicians, and politicians are afraid to go against the what the masses want, although we're seeing it with Gaza and stuff, which is just incredible how how much power this cabal has.

Speaker 2: 27:08

But people will I mean, that's the gist of it. That's why I like to focus on. I always said I want to talk to the movers and shakers in society. I want to be able to address them directly. And I'm not talking about necessarily the person who's an executive at the company.

Speaker 2: 27:27

They could just be somebody who's in customer service or somebody who's in a technology position. Know, they're doing scripts or something for and they know scripts for a company. I mean, like computer scripts or something. They are Google engineers or they are whatever positions, but they're in a position to make a difference at the right times. And those people will change history just as much as anyone else like us in the front lines or people fighting the school boards.

Speaker 2: 27:56

We need all of that. And those people will change history as well. But the more people we can get that are in the inside who understand what's going on and will fight and will do it stealth is is how we're gonna win. I know that sound, but that's that's we're in a guerrilla war, and we need the the soldiers fighting that guerrilla war. And those are the people.

Seth Holehouse: 28:20

It's kinda interesting because it reminds me of inception. I'm not sure if you've seen inception, one of my favorite movies. I like those really heady movies. But one so one of the themes in that movie was that the most dangerous thing is an idea, that an idea can spread like cancer. And Right.

Seth Holehouse: 28:40

But but also dangerous to who? Because I think the ideas that we've been injected with are dangerous to us. Right? The ideas of gender equality and and and, you know, what's behind these things and gender fluidity and these kinds of things. It's like that are, you know, obviously, these nice sounding things that they're but they're actually, you know, lot of times Marxist, you know, Cancers.

Seth Holehouse: 29:03

But on the flip side, the idea of freedom, the idea that we're understanding that we're living in a cage, we think that's actually one of the greatest threats to them, is just us understanding that. Because if you've got these animals living in a cage, but they don't know they're in a cage, and there's they're just too distracted with the two monkeys wrestling in the corner of the cage, and they're waiting for their next meal, and they're drinking whatever water comes through the thing. They're they're not a threat. But but the but the gorilla that knows what it was like to live in freedom that's pounding and breaking the glass that knows that they're in a cage, that's the threat. And that's what I see happening.

Seth Holehouse: 29:47

To me, that's what the great awakening is. It's it's all these people now realizing, wait, we're in this cage of some sort. I didn't agree to this. I don't wanna be in a cage. I think inherent you know, inherently, as human beings, we yearn for freedom.

Seth Holehouse: 30:03

And not just we yearn for freedom, we get pretty upset when we realize that our freedoms are being taken away from us. And so that's that's a big part that I see with this is that there's the people with this, they're understanding now that the life that they thought was that normal they wanted to get back to post COVID is not what they thought it was. And they're they're building this new vision for what life should be. And I think that I think that is such a threat to this this system that we're up against. Folks, how do you feel?

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Speaker 2: 31:43

When I think how we fight this makes a difference too. When we, you know, like saying that I'm gonna I'm gonna go here. Saying that equality, you know, women and equality and stuff there, that's going to create a, you know, like, oh, I don't, you know, I want equality. But what we really need to do is say, okay, well, you said freedom is the focus. And what people need to realize is that freedom is inherently about people having equal access to rights and, you know, equal access to flourish.

Speaker 2: 32:19

And so if we change our paradigm and say, we are about creating an environment where people are free and that we can maximize the ability for all humans to flourish and to thrive, that inherently creates an environment of equality from the standpoint of being able to prosper. And it means different things for different people. But if you want to force that paradigm in people of equity, that takes away people's freedom and rights. And that that distinction is absolutely massive. And I think we can reach some of the people who are not everybody, there's a lot that are brainwashed, but people who are like willing to think and say, okay, I understand that freedom is better for all people, and that we're not anti any group of people.

Speaker 2: 33:18

We're here to ensure that everyone flourishes. Having a here's a conservative idea, and it shouldn't be conservative, it should just be common sense. Having a strong mother and father in the family allows for the kids to flourish. It allows for everybody to flourish, as long as the relationship is healthy, right? We got to work on healthy relationships.

Speaker 2: 33:41

But it's getting back to those real basic understanding and basic philosophies that help us be stronger and all people moving forward. And I think that narrative, instead of us focused on fighting each other so much, we break that fight, everything just dissipates and goes away because we're focusing on everyone. I hope that makes sense.

Seth Holehouse: 34:09

Oh, it makes perfect sense. And I think, you know, going back to equality, think it's equality of opportunity, not equality of outcome. Right? Equality of opportunity. That's that's that's America.

Seth Holehouse: 34:19

Absolutely. Quality of outcome is communism. Right? Doesn't matter how hard you work, you're gonna get your two servings of food, and your gallon of milk per week, and that's what they want. But the opposites is really, I think, is is the truth.

Seth Holehouse: 34:33

So I I wanna pivot as we kind of round out the second half of the conversation here. I wanted to see, because you're someone, obviously, that's researching and talking and thinking, and you're you're trying to understand what's happening in the world and in our country. As we approach the election, you know, twenty twenty four presidential election, whether it's, you know, Trump versus Biden or, you know, maybe who knows what happens. Right? But what what are your predictions?

Seth Holehouse: 35:02

What do you see playing out? I mean, will there be an election? Is there gonna be some sort of, you know, are they gonna bring in Michelle Obama at the last minute? Will Trump be put in prison for the rest of his life? Will will the the support of the people be so much that they can't stop it?

Seth Holehouse: 35:21

I mean, what do you see happening? Because I think that whatever happens, as we can see where where where our country's at right now, will greatly affect the next four years of our lives. So where are you at?

Speaker 2: 35:35

I think, again, we're on at a precipice where if they feel cornered, then they're going to we're already seeing them do things that are just brazen. Can't even believe they're doing some of the things they're doing without even hiding it. Right? They're just in our face with especially the wars and the money and the CBCs. And I I could go on in-depth about so many things that they're doing that is so brazen and in our face.

Speaker 2: 36:02

And maybe because we are aware now that we can see it, maybe they're always this brazen. I don't know. But when they are trapped in a corner, I believe they will do things that are almost unthinkable. So we have to prepare ourselves for dealing with some pretty serious things coming up because we don't know how far they'll take it to get their outcomes. I I don't think I think they are smart enough to realize they can't fake a Biden win again, because there's too many people that are too aware of the situation that was so obviously stolen.

Speaker 2: 36:39

Right. And he is so much more unpopular now. They were rigging it as if he was this really popular person back in the day, right back in 2020. They can't do that anymore. So are they going to replace him at the last minute with somebody who is really popular?

Speaker 2: 36:58

I think that's a very high probability. Who would it be? They keep saying Michelle Obama doesn't like politics, so she won't go into it. But I mean, she's really popular. Right?

Speaker 2: 37:08

I think there's a lot of things that'll come out on her that will be pretty bad for her personally. And so if she doesn't like politics, then maybe, you know, if she doesn't like that, then maybe she won't run. But I do know they're thinking hard about how to do that. They're trying to imprison Trump to make him to invalidate him as a candidate. Will they get there?

Speaker 2: 37:28

I don't they're working like crazy too. And if they don't get there, will somebody assassinate some you know? I think Robert Kennedy junior has a good chance too, because I think people are peeling off from the Democrat party left and right. The Democrat party is in shambles, period. 80% of their base wants a ceasefire in Gaza, and 100% of the Democrats voted to keep funding Gaza.

Speaker 2: 37:52

Right? So they have this. They have a we, you know, Republicans have a civil war going on, but they really have a civil war going on. And they haven't come to grips with it. That's what's happening right now.

Speaker 2: 38:03

So I think they're gonna pull some fast ones. I think Robert Kennedy Jr, if he excels, I I think there's some lives in danger. I think he needs his bodyguards. You know, I think they will do that. Will they will they destroy a whole city to get rid of one candidate?

Speaker 2: 38:21

I, you know, do a big bomb. I think they would do crazy things like that. I don't want to scare people. But I think people need to be mentally ready that this war could escalate.

Seth Holehouse: 38:32

Yeah. Because it's In in yeah. It is. I was in, you know, we're on the precipice, but they're also on the precipice. And they're also at that at the stage where it's it's like the it's, you know, approaching the final battle.

Seth Holehouse: 38:44

And so final battles that often does it determine the outcome of wars. It's like, okay. Who won the final battle that that really mattered when both sides were exhausted? And and I think that that's where we're at. And, yeah, I I agree with your point.

Seth Holehouse: 38:59

I think that Biden is just he he's too unpopular. Like, they can't fake that anymore. They can't do what they did in in 2020. And the thing is is that just look at it from this perspective, they've lost control of the narrative. I mean, in 2020

Speaker 2: 39:16

That's right.

Seth Holehouse: 39:16

When we were, you know, we were both reporting on what really happened November 3 and all this. I mean, it was so hard to get that information out. You were getting kicked off of Twitter. You're getting kicked off of YouTube. You're having videos pulled down.

Seth Holehouse: 39:30

You're getting strikes. You've you know, a lot of people are still turning to, you know, even the folks that were at one time watching Fox News. Now they're gonna watch Newsmax. Only to find out now that Newsmax is gonna they're gonna parrot the same exact narrative that Fox would have parroted. So they're even the mainstream media had so much more of a grip on things.

Seth Holehouse: 39:50

Whereas now, even if, you know, I don't have, you know, a whole lot of trust for Elon, I know at this at this stage, at least, you can talk about these things on Twitter. I mean, it's kinda interesting. It's that you want a a real life data point of the great awakening. Go look at trending topics on Twitter. I mean, I'll pull up Twitter sometimes.

Seth Holehouse: 40:08

Like, what's trending? It'll be like, Klaus Schwab, New World Order, Tucker Carlson, and Putin. It's like, that's the trending topic. I mean, so it shows you that that collectively, humanity is really waking up, and this idea that we talked about. Right?

Seth Holehouse: 40:26

That idea of it's a cancer to them that, you know, we should be free. It's it's spreading. So, yeah, my I I share your same concern though that they are backed into a corner, and I think that they've tried to, you know, they tried to bring about World War three. Like, they're just poking the bear in Russia so much. It's like, please hit the nuke button.

Seth Holehouse: 40:47

It just wants drop a little bit of nukes on Ukraine, so we can then bring in NATO, and they want that. I feel like that they want the collapse of the global financial system, and they've been really trying to aggressively push that. I recently interviewed G. Edward Griffin. He was like, that's exactly what they're trying to do so they can bring in CBDC.

Seth Holehouse: 41:07

But even that, it seems to not be working. Like, there's so much of, I think, what they want to have happen that is not working. And so will they try to pull some stunt and bring us into civil war? Will there be an EMP? I mean, I think they'll try, but I think they've been trying things for years now, and it just isn't working.

Seth Holehouse: 41:27

I mean, look at all this stuff about the, you know, Marburg or pandemic two point o or lockdowns again. Like, it's nowhere we found now. Like, the it's like, they're still up there gapping away at the World Economic Forum, but the stuff is just it's not working.

Speaker 2: 41:43

Well, yeah, the majority of countries didn't go this year to the World Economic Forum and day you know, the annual convention in Davos, majority of countries didn't show up this time, which is that's a great sign. Right? And I don't know. I think we have to be careful though, because anytime there's a vacuum of power, there's others that want to come in and fill it. And we have to not be naive and we have to be ready to fill it with that vacuum of power needs to be filled with pro human, more enlightened ideas of how to move forward.

Speaker 2: 42:20

And we have to grasp that and realize that there could be some games that are being played that are a little bit more strategic than what we see face value. For example, Bitcoin was funded by the NSA and by, well, the World Bank, it's tied to the World Bank and NSA. People are thinking Bitcoin will be our savior when in reality, a lot of these cryptos, like the Japanese character that supposedly created blockchain, he didn't exist. Was an NSA construct. And so people need to realize that there's a higher level of games going on as well.

Speaker 2: 43:00

They're not they're pretty sophisticated wanting to keep control of their monetary system. Any time that there are wars or major conflicts throughout the last or how should I I'm gonna rephrase this. Anytime there's been a monetary reset, there's been a major war or conflict. I mean, there's been more major wars than resets. So I had to say it the other direction.

Speaker 2: 43:22

But they need the war to enable them to reset the currency and they use it to transfer wealth to themselves as part of that process. And, you know, it's called if people haven't seen the great taking, was a really good explanation by David Webb. I did a a show with him on how they did that in World War two and how they're planning on doing that now with the Universal Commercial Code and how they've they've baked it into the legislation. There's all these things that they've baked into our legislation and our processes that enables them to win this war. And so we have to be laser focused on the things that matter and ignore even though that some of these things aren't really important socially or culturally.

Speaker 2: 44:08

We have to realize a lot of these things are distractions while they're implementing the important politically powerful agendas that they have when it comes to the monetary system or like our patent process, which is what I covered just recently, where a decade ago, I mean, all this stuff has been in the works for like ten to fifteen years. All these things have shifted over. And the patent court, they created a kangaroo court for the patent system so that patent holders, if they see an infringement on their patent, they have to go inventors have to go to this kangaroo patent court in which 84% of the time that court invalidates their patent. Whereas when they went into the regular court system, how broken our regular court system is, people were winning on much larger numbers. They weren't having their patents invalidated 84% of the time.

Speaker 2: 45:03

They were actually winning a decent amount of the time. And now they have to spend between 600 and 800,000 just to go to this court. And then if they win there, then they have to turn around and go to another court where they have to spend even more money. How many inventors have 6 to 800,000 to fight in a kangaroo court? Very I mean, it's just not unless you're already wealthy.

Speaker 2: 45:26

And so the wealthy, especially big tech, they know this. So they just take thing and and part of their cost of doing business is stealing patents and ideas and implementing it for themselves. They have to fight it in this kangaroo court, they know their probability of winning is very high and their cost is very low and then they'll bleed the inventor until they have no money to fight. And that has been instilled in our legislation, in our laws. That's what's happening.

Speaker 2: 45:56

And we have to become laser focused. I know the transgender issue is very destructive socially. But some of these things are distractions for the more important. I don't know if it's more important culturally, but it sure is more important to the war. Because if we don't have innovation in this country, we're in trouble.

Speaker 2: 46:16

If we have a CBDC implemented, or some other control mechanism that is that powerful, we're in trouble. If we don't dismantle Google's stronghold on the internet and them censoring and taking down people, we're in trouble. So there are some key things that I had someone phrase it to me the other day saying, it's like the center point of the table. Like if your whole table is all the issues on the board, they want you distracted with the stuff on the outside of the table. But we need to focus right on the center of the table and the things that matter the most for our freedom because we can self correct.

Speaker 2: 46:54

If our justice system is fixed in common law or I don't think we can just move to common law. I think there's a transitional period. If we can fix some of these, our justice system can self correct. If our elections are fixed, political system can self correct. These are the things that we need to have in place.

Speaker 2: 47:14

But they're not exciting sizzling issues. They're hard work, and we need to focus on.

Seth Holehouse: 47:21

Very, very good points. Very good, very good points. So, Sarah, before we sign off, I wanna bring up two two of your websites. Right? So your main website, which is just sarahwestall.com.

Seth Holehouse: 47:34

I'm I'm on your emails. I get your emails. That's how a lot times I'll figure out what shows you're doing is so they go, okay. Email comes through. You have these great descriptions.

Seth Holehouse: 47:42

You describe what the video is gonna be like. You have the Rumble links, everything. So sarah.com. I noticed also that you have your Substack. Right?

Seth Holehouse: 47:50

Which is sarah westall dot substack dot com, and I'll put those links in the description. And so any other places people should find you or what, you know, access your content maximally. It's brilliant.

Speaker 2: 48:04

Yeah. Well, thank you. And, you know, like you, I'm all over the place on so many platforms. So if you go to sarahwestall.com, if you sign up for my newsletter, you automatically sign up for my sub stack as well. Mean, my Substack is my newsletter.

Speaker 2: 48:19

So anything that I post goes into my newsletter from my Substack. But if you go to my website, sarahwestl.com, you can see all the platforms that you can, I mean, whatever your favorite platform is, you'll find me there, except maybe YouTube? I would say if you're subscribing to me on YouTube, you need to look elsewhere because I'm very limited on what I can put up And so you got to go to, you know, my other sites, Rumble, Bitchute Bastion is a great one. And then my Substack. Substack is growing really well because they're not censoring and they're trying to promote writers.

Speaker 2: 48:52

And so I can get my newsletter. The reason I switched to Substack is for my newsletter is because I can actually get it to people. So much of my newsletter was being blocked by Google's Gmail or other, you know, somewhere along the network, they're blocking my my newsletter getting to people. So now I'm reaching people with Substack. So please sign up for my newsletter and whatever platform is most likable for you because I'm on audio podcasts.

Speaker 2: 49:19

I'm everywhere. I'm even airing on the radio in LA Three times a week on both an AM and FM stations. So I'm doing quite a bit and I'm out there, but I'm highly censored just like the rest of us. And so you have to put a little bit of effort to find us. And signing up for my newsletter is the best way.

Seth Holehouse: 49:37

Well, perfect. It's worth the effort. Well, Sarah, thank you for coming on the show, but thank you for just dedicating your life to what you're doing. You're a great voice to hear. You have great guests.

Seth Holehouse: 49:48

And I encourage folks that they haven't watched or listened to your show, go to your website, go to your Substack, subscribe to your Rumble channel, follow you on Apple Podcasts, whatever it is, and they'll get some great content. So Sarah, thank you again for coming. It's always a pleasure having you on the show.

Speaker 2: 50:04

Thank you. And congratulations to you new dad. That's awesome.

Seth Holehouse: 50:09

Thank you so much. Thank you.