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Need a dose of creativity and accountability? Hosts Monica and Candace are prioritizing ART and talking about it in a real way. One take, no script, and no filters… just two humans inviting listeners in for a fun weekly chat about what they’re making now and what is inspiring them.
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Speaker 1
Hello and welcome. I wasn't quite ready for that.
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Speaker 2
It wasn't either, but that's alright. We're. We're starting. Hello?
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Speaker 1
Who's running this thing? Yeah. All right, we're ready. We're here, we're going. Welcome to episode 12.
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Speaker 2
Of As We Art.
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Speaker 1
As we Art. Episode 12 I'm Monica, I'm Candice. We're really glad you're here. This is a podcast and a YouTube channel. And what are we talking about?
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Speaker 2
We talk about what art we're making this week and what's inspiring us. And we want to hear from you. What are you creating? What's inspiring you?
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Speaker 1
We say that every week and we want to hear from you. We are not kidding, right? Hearing from you out there and listener land is so awesome.
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Speaker 2
Ignore me adjusting my headphones, I apologize.
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Speaker 1
I'll going to ignore you adjusting. But yeah, hearing about what different types of art people are working on. Love it. Yeah. Listening to or hearing about reading comments about what's inspiring you right now. We love it. Yeah. And the questions that have come in. We kind of open ourselves up here or like, hey, if you guys have any questions, we'll answer them.
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Speaker 1
And we've had some awesome questions. So at the end of this episode, we'll be answering one of the questions that came in. So thank you for that. Keep them coming. We love to read them.
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Speaker 2
Absolutely. And thank you for building a community with us. Like Monica said. We love hearing from all of you and we love talking about what everyone's creating and doing to stay sane. So thank you.
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Speaker 1
Yes. So welcome, welcome. Let's talk art. Oh, what do we got.
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Speaker 2
On as we.
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Speaker 1
All right, sweetheart.
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Speaker 2
Do you want to go first, Monica, or you want me to go first?
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Speaker 1
Do we have an order? Like, are we taking turns?
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Speaker 2
I feel like the order changes every week, and it's just a free for all. And I.
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Speaker 1
Like it. It's a free for all. And I don't want to.
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Speaker 2
Be the only area of my life where I welcome chaos.
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Speaker 1
I know this podcast is the only area.
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Speaker 2
I want to even say the full podcast. Just choosing who goes first.
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Speaker 1
Okay. Yeah, it's we're not keeping track. We don't flip a coin. We have no script. I will go first. Right. Not so. I have a finished piece to show you, which I'm.
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Speaker 2
Yes. Double clapping.
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Speaker 1
We're double god.
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Speaker 2
Double clapping in it back.
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Speaker 1
We're making it a thing. If you haven't followed along or watched or listen to to previous episodes, you know, if you have time, go back and do. Because we reference the references and the internal references and the inside jokes from the jokes that us.
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Speaker 2
We're like comedians. We we throw it back, you know.
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Speaker 1
We throw it back. Yeah. And, I think we mentioned this, if you're listening on the podcast, that's awesome. If you're watching on YouTube, that's great. But either way, follow us on Instagram at As We Art podcast, because we're going to be showing you some photographs of some of the stuff we're talking about that you're going to. It will make sense if you see the photo, if you're just listening, you'd be like, I want to see the art they did, but you won't be able to if you're just listening.
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Speaker 2
We also share listener art that, you folks have completed and sent to us. And, you know, we'll share what you've been sharing with us.
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Speaker 1
So send those pictures. We love to see it. Okay, so I am now going to hold up a finished stained glass.
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Speaker 2
Piece
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Speaker 1
In the form of a white panel.
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Speaker 2
It's.
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Speaker 1
It's, I figured I would bring this to show the finished piece because glass it's kind of hard to see with all these background colors, but I do this. This happens to be transparent glass. Sometimes I use opaque, but this one is let me just hold up the way.
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Speaker 2
I can hold the way.
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Speaker 1
It's not the right size exactly, but hopefully this is me making sense. So I have a finished panel full of colors. I've been showing the progress pictures because that glass that got all scattered. And when it was all. What did I show last week when it was all ground.
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Speaker 2
Ground and started foiling?
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Speaker 1
Believe. So I started foiling, I started, I framed, I polished, it's done. And this mirror. I hope this mirror looks like a person's profile. And the whatever is going in or out of the brain is all different color glass. And I'm really, pleased with it. I'll get rid of the white. So, I'm going to be entering it into a gallery exhibit.
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Speaker 1
It's a juried show. The theme is Out of This World, and I will be entering two panels. The due date is next week, and I'm working on the other one. And we'll see if it gets selected and maybe even sold. And if not, which is awesome. And either way, afterwards, if it doesn't sell at the gallery, I will put it on our Etsy.
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Speaker 1
Nice glass over teakettle. It's a good glass choice.
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Speaker 2
I like the mirror for the face and.
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Speaker 1
Thank you all.
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Speaker 2
It looks very nice. Very well done.
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Speaker 1
I'm trying to show some, enthusiasm for the finished project. I have a little bit of an issue. I don't know if any other artists have this issue, but I, This is hard to explain. It's emotional. I have an anticlimactic response to when I'm finished with an art project. I would think maybe some humans, when they work towards something and they reach, they have a finish line and they get across the finish line.
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Speaker 1
They might have some elation or some pride or some celebration moment. I am almost like, embarrassed at a finished project and not embarrassed. That's not the right word, but I'm I'm like, I'm just I'm not willing to show it off, really. And I just want to go to my next project because my elation and excitement actually comes from the newness of a new project.
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Speaker 1
And the process of doing a new project. So I'm actually I'll weave this into my inspiration this week when we get to that portion of the show, but I am glad this project is done. I am happy with the result. It was a lot of work to do it, but I need to like pause and acknowledge that a little bit better because, I'm very proud of my artwork.
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Speaker 1
I just don't dwell on it. I want to move on to the next project.
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Speaker 2
So more inspired by the process than I.
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Speaker 1
Really am, I it's this wave of emotion. What is that? Dopamine. Some brain chemical.
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Speaker 2
Release. But I feel like a lot of people would get that from the final product, not me. Maybe you're just you have an adverse reaction to like praise when people are like, oh for sure.
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Speaker 1
Oh yeah. Yeah. I mean, I mean, there's so many things I could hire I that I could bring up with my therapist I was at hired a therapist. I mean, adverse adversity to praise. Yeah. I don't want to hear it. I want to just move on to the next thing. But I am happy with this piece of artwork, and I'm glad.
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Speaker 1
I'm glad it's done. And I'm excited to move on to the next one, but I will. This podcast actually is going to force me to stop and take a moment when I do finish a piece, because that's why we're we're doing this for to hold ourselves accountable for what art we're working on. But it's not just about the process, it's about finished work as well, if you ever get to that point.
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Speaker 1
No pressure. We we we acknowledge any artists and whatever their process is, wherever they are. And that might take years to finish something, something. But, something.
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Speaker 2
That I sound like very Sean Connery.
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Speaker 1
Sean Connery?
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Speaker 2
Yeah, something.
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Speaker 1
So yes, there is my finished piece of art, and I'm happy with how it turned out.
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Speaker 2
Nice. And you said we'll acknowledge it later in the podcast, but my reaction to the finished product is very different. So we'll talk about that later.
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Speaker 1
Okay. First we want to see what you worked on. Candace.
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Speaker 2
What I worked on this week was my second, which was going to be just my second layer on this, linocut I've been working on Of Infinite Pi, but I decided it's also my final layer. Two colors. Yes, I was going to do three colors, but I decided that I wanted to make it a bit more illustrative in like, almost like a pop art way where it's kind of more bold and not so much like, I don't even know what the word for it would be.
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Speaker 2
I didn't want it to have as much depth, okay, with more color. So, I really like the the finished product, which is hard for me to sell out, but I do it.
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Speaker 1
So I tell the folks what you're holding up, in case you're just listening.
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Speaker 2
I am holding up a, linocut print of a bunch of concentric circles. Is that right? Bunch of circles.
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Speaker 1
Or portions of.
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Speaker 2
Circles?
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Speaker 1
Love.
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Speaker 2
And I hid my grumpy ghost logo in it. Which, is fun and something I think I'll do in future projects, so that's great.
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Speaker 1
And how many of these prints did you make?
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Speaker 2
I ended up completing all six. They all turned out, which is mind blowing for me.
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Speaker 1
I'll take a picture of all six.
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Speaker 2
It was my first whack at it.
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Speaker 1
At what?
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Speaker 2
At doing reduction printing. Where you take some away and between prints you can't, like go back and fix anything.
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Speaker 1
Okay.
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Speaker 2
So usually you don't get all the prints to work out because inevitably something happens. Something doesn't print correctly or you take away too much of something and then you're screwed. But this worked out.
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Speaker 1
You show the people, I'll be careful. I know it still does.
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Speaker 2
Show the people.
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Speaker 1
Show the people. Absolutely gorgeous. I know it's still drying. I love that you put the ghost in there. The grumpy ghost. And if you don't know the theme of infinite Pi or what we're referring to, go back to episode nine. Because the infinite Pi is become sort of not sort of. It's an important message to all artists out there.
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Speaker 1
So we won't recap right now, but go back and listen to episode nine if you're curious, because it's going to be a recurring theme for us, I love this. Thank you. Good job. So I saw pictures up on Instagram. Sorry. Go ahead.
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Speaker 2
Oh, I just said it was a lot of fun. I really enjoy the process, which is usually not my reaction. So, are we gonna.
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Speaker 1
Wait, wait, wait. You enjoy the process, but you.
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Speaker 2
Usually enjoy the final product more than the process.
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Speaker 1
See, I'm the exact opposite.
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Speaker 2
Yeah. Monica said, you know, you're you're almost upset when it's finished because you enjoy the process. And me, I'm like, that's it. My life's work.
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Speaker 1
I did it, I don't I mean, I'm not tired of it. By the end. I've looked at it a lot. I've dealt with it a lot. It's not that when I'm done with the art, I just that my emotions go down. Not from, oh, I'm sad it's over. Not that it's not like when I finish reading a book or I'm really sad that it's over.
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Speaker 1
I want to paint it. Depending on the book, I want the pages to continue. But with the piece of art, I'm like, okay, you know, that'll do. I'm now my levels of emotion go way up again for a new project. That's just how I've been in life. But you are really your emotions go up at the end. I'm excited when it's done and you can see your your work.
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Speaker 2
Is short lived. The excitement about it being complete. Because for me, I'm like, that means I got to figure out something new to do.
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Speaker 1
So you say you gotta, I say I get to exactly. It's so funny. I can't wait to start something new. And Candace is like, oh, I gotta start something new.
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Speaker 2
The most difficult part of the creative process for me is always getting started.
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Speaker 1
So what is the exact opposite for me? And I think more people are like you.
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Speaker 2
I don't know.
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Speaker 1
Yeah, I think so, yes.
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Speaker 2
Let us know how you are with the creative process. Is getting started difficult for you or is just ending in.
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Speaker 1
You know? Yeah.
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Speaker 2
Ending sad moment.
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Speaker 1
That's so funny. And we talked last week how different we are. People chimed in about what? And all of them. All the people that chimed in were Team Candace. Were they really, really like their routine familiar comfort zone where there wasn't anyone else out there who commented that said, oh, I'm like Monica, where I don't want. I get invigorated by it, not being familiar by something new, by trying breaking their routine.
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Speaker 1
So I'm curious about artists out there. Do you get excited about jumping into a new project? Is is that process that initiation better than the end result, or is the end result really what gives you that hit of like, yeah. So yeah, I'm it's it's fine. It's so interesting to have two different approaches. Thank God we're not the same I know.
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Speaker 2
Yeah we'd have a lot of things lying around the house unfinished. I think if we were the same.
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Speaker 1
Weight we if we were both like who? If we were.
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Speaker 2
Both like you, we would have a lot of started but not completed.
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Speaker 1
Projects. Oh my gosh. Okay, okay. That is fair. But I'm going to go out and say if we were both like me, you know if we were both like you.
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Speaker 2
Nothing would ever get started.
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Speaker 1
I was going to say fewer projects would get started.
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Speaker 2
Yeah I'll take responsibility for that okay. Okay. Very few things would get accomplished here because they'd never get started if we were both like me.
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Speaker 1
And.
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Speaker 2
I'm very happy things would get accomplished because there were too many things going on at once. If we were both like you.
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Speaker 1
That's very.
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Speaker 2
Fair. We balance each other out.
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Speaker 1
But and then, just to be totally honest, this podcast has made us more likely to finish said started projects at even a faster rate.
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Speaker 2
Because for me.
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Speaker 1
It's this.
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Speaker 2
Podcast has made me more likely to start a.
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Speaker 1
Project. So finishing is.
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Speaker 2
Not an issue for me.
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Speaker 1
That's great. Oh my god. See how we're like using this podcast as marriage counseling?
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Speaker 2
Yes. Oh no we don't we don't need marriage counseling.
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Speaker 1
This is art counts. Yeah, we just art. We're like, I'm going to go do some art. I'm going to go do some art. It's a really good outlet. We want to know what you're working on. We'd love to know your process. If you're figuring out how you're different than other friends, artists, spouses in your life, whoever's in your life.
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Speaker 1
Like, are you different from your siblings, your friends, your colleagues? In that way? We'd love to know.
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Speaker 2
Yeah. Inspiration or inspiration? What do you think is your inspiration? Oh, do you want me to go first? Yeah. My inspiration this week is if you haven't checked it out, check it out. Amy Poehler has a podcast called Good Hang with Amy Poehler, and she brings on a guest and interviews them each week. And they are all celebrities.
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Speaker 2
But it's inspirational for me because it's just a total escape from the insanity. And it's very uplifting. Like, they talk about real world things but that are not current events, if that makes sense. So they talk about people's things, people's routine or how they approach things, or what's your sleep schedule like? Or things like that. So that's really inspirational for me, but it's also inspirational because it, it just shows that, like, we're all humans, we all have imposter syndrome.
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Speaker 2
It doesn't matter how successful you are or, you know, famous people are just normal people that happened to be recognized for their craft. So we're all just normal people out here fucking winging it. We're all winging it. Even those of us like me who like to pretend like we're in control, we're all winging it so.
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Speaker 1
Well, we are all winging it. Humans are for sure. All of us are winging it. But I, I'm glad you mentioned that podcast. It's a good one. We've, we've become a little more particular about how we spend our time watching things consuming.
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Speaker 2
Yeah, because.
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Speaker 1
We're busy with art and busy with other things. But when we turn that one on and actually we do that one on with the visual.
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Speaker 2
It's not new for us on YouTube.
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Speaker 1
Yeah, it can be a podcast. You can listen to the interview. She interviews an artist every week. The artists are generally actors, comedians. I don't know if she said a musician, but people of that world. But it is interesting to hear of a break in the types of interview questions. It's not they might not be promoting their latest movie, right?
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Speaker 2
It's not like, tell us about your current project. Yeah. Like tell me about how you ended up doing something. Yeah.
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Speaker 1
But yeah, it is positive. I think she named it. Well, the good hang or just good hang. Yeah. And she won. What what are they the.
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Speaker 2
Golden Globe for podcasts.
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Speaker 1
Yeah that's great. Yeah. So if you're not familiar with Amy Poehler's podcast Good Hang, I'm glad you mentioned that as inspo because that is just.
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Speaker 2
To like.
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Speaker 1
See other people and hear other people their process, their behind the scenes, how they interact with other artists, how they interact with spouses, how they interact with with their medium, or what things are trying to do. A lot of them try things that are outside of their comfort zone, and that is inspiring. Yeah, I'm glad you said that.
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Speaker 2
Yeah, it's a fun one to watch. We definitely recommend it.
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Speaker 1
Yeah, I don't, so I wish I had given this more thought. We do this podcast without really thinking we're not planning ahead. We don't know what we're going to say.
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Speaker 2
If you haven't guessed, that'll.
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Speaker 1
But my inspiration this week, I think, is about trying. I'm I'm making an effort to try to stay more present. This is really hard for me. And I'm not on some regimen of, like, being more mindful. Like, I can't stick to any regimen, but is that right how you say that?
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Speaker 2
Regimen, regimen, regimen read? I don't know, I have no idea.
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Speaker 1
It's not regime.
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Speaker 2
It all sounds terrible, right?
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Speaker 1
Sounds bad.
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Speaker 2
Regicide, which.
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Speaker 1
Is like murdering.
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Speaker 2
A king or something, right? Oh, God. Queen, I guess.
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Speaker 1
Oh my God. Yeah, I'm trying to be more regicide. Really? Without with the kings out. No Kings day. Okay. Yeah. Back to this. My inspiration. I am trying to be more present, which is a challenge for me. And not like thinking, how is this whatever I'm doing in the moment, how is it going to affect the future, whether it's I'm working on this art project, what's it gonna look like?
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Speaker 1
Or, you know, we're having a dance party every morning. I'm doing it because it feels good in the moment. Not for any other reason. So I'm trying to, like, I'm trying to be more present. One thing I forgot to mention about my art this week that actually really big deal is I. If you listened last week where I was one of the short stories I submitted to a contest was was not selected to move forward.
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Speaker 1
Okay, the.
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Speaker 2
Word rejected or rejected.
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Speaker 1
It was rejected. I'm I've I've started I've, I've written eight pages already of turning it into a play because I think it will make it really good. Interesting setting a play. Two women in a prison cell having a conversation. And I'm able to weave in all sorts of topics that are really important to me, into this play.
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Speaker 1
But I'm doing it in the present moment. I'm really, truly trying to just stay present on the page. I phone is nowhere near me. I have no other obligations. I'm writing as though it is a job and I am. I have two hours. I'm slicing this bit of time for the day and I'm doing nothing else. And it's helping me, writing out a schedule for art.
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Speaker 1
Actually. Schedule. I'm a I'm Gen X, I have to write everything down, like like an a planner with a pen or pencil.
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Speaker 2
It's true. Sometimes it's in a gigantic, like, desk size calendar planner.
00:20:27:22 - 00:20:49:28
Speaker 1
I have a desk calendar for every month. I have a month, a calendar on my wall, and I have the week, a week, a glance at a glance. But I write in pencil. I am so reliant upon that to stay focused and to know, okay, I'm now writing. Yeah, I'm now in the stained glass studio. I'm now, doing my 9 to 5 editing papers and things.
00:20:49:28 - 00:20:52:29
Speaker 1
So I have very specific chunks of time.
00:20:53:01 - 00:21:01:29
Speaker 2
But this year I'll get you a blotting pad and like, what is that thing they used to talk into for their stenographers?
00:21:02:02 - 00:21:03:15
Speaker 1
Oh, like a dictaphone? Yes.
00:21:03:15 - 00:21:07:17
Speaker 2
No, I just did that. Your desk calendar.
00:21:07:17 - 00:21:09:03
Speaker 1
Are you making fun of my analog life?
00:21:09:03 - 00:21:13:26
Speaker 2
I am making fun of your analog life. That seems to have fallen out of 1963.
00:21:13:28 - 00:21:25:02
Speaker 1
I love my analog life. I do get it does give me a the big giant desk calendars every every year at Christmas so that I have a new one for January. And I fucking love it. I live by.
00:21:25:02 - 00:21:34:19
Speaker 2
It. You got to do what works for you. Like, yes, analog works for you. Stick with it. I'm a mixture of the two. But I tend to lean more toward digital.
00:21:34:21 - 00:21:56:11
Speaker 1
Yeah, I'm the worse. So I'm. I'm so embarrassed that I'm so analog at certain situations. I fake it. This is this is a this is true. I really do this. And hopefully none of my doctors or dentists are watching. But, you know, at the reception desk after an appointment, we just had dentist this week where they, they say, you know, do you need your appointment card?
00:21:56:11 - 00:22:06:00
Speaker 1
I'm like, no, I got it. And I pull my phone out. This is true. And I, I touch it, I pretend I, I have never once, never once you.
00:22:06:00 - 00:22:07:24
Speaker 2
Fake that, you're putting it into your account.
00:22:07:26 - 00:22:21:23
Speaker 1
Yes. And I memorize it and I run home and I write it on my counter. I fake putting in my calendar. I have no idea how the calendar in my phone works. Something someone sent to me recently. I had to I had to accept to, zoom.
00:22:21:26 - 00:22:23:13
Speaker 2
Take the business card and go.
00:22:23:14 - 00:22:28:16
Speaker 1
I should I had to, accepting, putting so.
00:22:28:16 - 00:22:29:16
Speaker 2
Much effort in.
00:22:29:22 - 00:22:49:09
Speaker 1
I know I'm so embarrassed to admit this, but I've never, ever intentionally put something in my calendar. But sometimes someone has. Some people email me an online meeting invite, like a zoom invite or something like a new client or something. And I'm like, I don't even do that. I meet my clients on zoom. I just email them the link.
00:22:49:09 - 00:22:53:22
Speaker 1
I don't know how to, like, add it to their calendar or invite them. I don't do that.
00:22:53:24 - 00:23:00:20
Speaker 2
If you invite Monica via zoom calendar link, the first word out of her mouth is going to be Candace.
00:23:00:26 - 00:23:11:16
Speaker 1
Yeah, in-house tech tech help, but I really do. I pretend I'm using my phone in a digital way, but I am an analog analog woman and I always.
00:23:11:16 - 00:23:14:09
Speaker 2
Will love it. Just take the business card. No one's.
00:23:14:09 - 00:23:35:24
Speaker 1
Judging. I want the paper and all that and I know I really do. Just memorize it and run home and write it in pencil on my calendar. Okay? Oh, I felt get off my chest. Yeah. I'm. I've never used the calendar on my phone. And it's really embarrassing because I work with some very professional clients. I look a little different when I'm on those zoom calls.
00:23:35:27 - 00:23:59:11
Speaker 1
No braids and baseball hat, but I act like I know what they're talking about, and I it's handwritten on my calendar, all my homework, all the homework deadlines I had when I was taking all the college classes. I just finished my degree in December, so happy. But I had and it was online and online classes mean you're using technology and I'm in a log gen Gen-X person here.
00:23:59:11 - 00:24:11:23
Speaker 1
The only one in the class. And it was like so embarrassing when they were like forming, you know, ways to meet and talk and yeah, about groups and then the breakout groups. But anyway.
00:24:11:28 - 00:24:34:14
Speaker 2
Well, you did great. I mean, you got your degree and you were all over the technology, so. Yeah. Well done. I mean, they're analog. I've been in that position before though. Like I grew up in my 20s in a restaurant job. I wasn't using technology. I mean, jobs I got after that, I was googling how to do those jobs because I didn't know.
00:24:34:17 - 00:24:35:08
Speaker 1
Yes.
00:24:35:10 - 00:24:44:06
Speaker 2
And that's how I found out how to do a lot of things like use Google Calendar or Zoom or I mean, I had to look it up and fake it till I made it. Yeah.
00:24:44:06 - 00:24:47:22
Speaker 1
So. And you did. Yeah. You worked for some amazing you have work.
00:24:47:22 - 00:24:51:08
Speaker 2
I ended up working for a tech company eventually. So.
00:24:51:08 - 00:25:10:02
Speaker 1
But you were very happy that they didn't track your Google look up. So they would have been like, how did we hire someone that had to Google this? Yeah, it's pretty funny, but Candace is a fast learner and she you've been able to adapt to any software they throw at you, any platform they throw at you. Meanwhile, I would be drowning.
00:25:10:04 - 00:25:16:23
Speaker 2
You would do great. You would do it. I didn't Google it. And I've had some things thrown at me that I was like, nope, can't do it.
00:25:16:28 - 00:25:34:18
Speaker 1
So that's okay. So what about you listening? Are you nostalgic for Analog World and still cling to writing things down with the pencil or pen and paper? Are you comfortable using digital for your life and appointments and calendars and things? Are you both?
00:25:34:18 - 00:25:50:06
Speaker 2
I have to confess I prefer analog. Oh, for reasons a it's more difficult for me to lose something that's analog. I will forget where I saved something digital, but I also am a little bit obsessed with my own handwriting. So.
00:25:50:08 - 00:25:52:16
Speaker 1
You know, handwriting things can't just is awesome.
00:25:52:21 - 00:25:56:23
Speaker 2
I write in cursive. My print is terrible.
00:25:56:25 - 00:26:09:07
Speaker 1
Yeah, your cursive is beautiful. Our grocery list. I love it. Okay, we got a question from the audience. Yes. If you have a question, be sure and send it to us. I write it, I write it down so I can read it.
00:26:09:07 - 00:26:12:25
Speaker 2
Word for word, analog the hell out of your questions from YouTube.
00:26:12:28 - 00:26:22:16
Speaker 1
This is a good one. And we we knew this one ahead of time. So I know we've prepared an answer, but we don't know what the other person's prepared like. We we really want this to be.
00:26:22:16 - 00:26:26:25
Speaker 2
We have not confirmed. Yeah.
00:26:26:27 - 00:26:56:13
Speaker 1
Okay, here's the question. Band artist album that has grown with you through your life. Maybe you. Oh, shit. I can't remember writing. This is maybe you. Oh, maybe you matured as their music did. Or got politically more aligned with their music as you aged, so it's a very good question. We're so grateful for it. I'm also obsessed with music.
00:26:56:20 - 00:27:08:06
Speaker 1
Yeah, Candace is obsessed in music and has a lot more music range that you listen to than I do, but I'm. Why don't you? I had to go first on the art. Why don't you go first?
00:27:08:08 - 00:27:10:08
Speaker 2
Okay? I went first on inspiration.
00:27:10:08 - 00:27:14:27
Speaker 1
But whenever I could go first. No, it's okay.
00:27:15:00 - 00:27:24:03
Speaker 2
I the thing that immediately came to mind with this question is a very specific album and a very specific artist.
00:27:24:04 - 00:27:25:07
Speaker 1
Okay.
00:27:25:09 - 00:27:30:00
Speaker 2
It was Alanis Morissette's Jagged Little Pill.
00:27:30:02 - 00:27:31:12
Speaker 1
That's for you.
00:27:31:14 - 00:27:59:15
Speaker 2
I was ten, I was in fourth grade when that album came out. Okay, so no, I did not understand some of the lyrics, but that doesn't matter. I do now. They have grown with me. But the second I hear that like being owned than it had done first, and the harmonica, my like nostalgia brain kicks in and I am immediately back in fourth grade wearing like my first pair of Nike's and oh.
00:27:59:15 - 00:28:01:12
Speaker 1
You love sneakers back then you love.
00:28:01:12 - 00:28:05:08
Speaker 2
Sneakers. No shoes. I love shoes and hats. So, you know, what.
00:28:05:08 - 00:28:06:26
Speaker 1
Were your first? Nike's first.
00:28:06:26 - 00:28:20:10
Speaker 2
My very first pair of Nike's. They were black with white and red accents, and they had a Velcro like tab with the Nike swoosh on it that you put over the. The shoe laces.
00:28:20:10 - 00:28:21:10
Speaker 1
Were these high tops.
00:28:21:12 - 00:28:31:09
Speaker 2
They were low tops, but they were made for like football practice. Okay. American football practice. They weren't cleats. They were like running on fake turf.
00:28:31:13 - 00:28:34:27
Speaker 1
I use these so you're in fourth grade?
00:28:35:00 - 00:28:35:18
Speaker 2
I was in fourth.
00:28:35:18 - 00:28:39:05
Speaker 1
Grade listening to this album. Yes. Love this album. Okay.
00:28:39:07 - 00:29:12:05
Speaker 2
Alanis Morissette's Jagged Little Pill and John Osborne's Relish came out around the same time, and I was obsessed with both and pretty much listened to like no other albums for about a year. But Jagged Little Pill is the one that always gets me like the second I hear, you know, do I stress you out? I don't want to get a copyright infringement on here, but, just with, like, that flat music in the back where it's almost like they put it on a different, like, wavelength.
00:29:12:05 - 00:29:36:29
Speaker 2
It sounds very low fi, but her voice is very intense. And then all of a sudden after that first, intro of the, the verse, then the music really kicks in and gets more high fi. But yeah, something about that album, it will stick with me forever. It's one of my favorites. It will always be one of my favorites, and it was at a very formative time in my life.
00:29:37:01 - 00:29:42:17
Speaker 1
Ten years old. It's ten years old is when we start. I started listening to my own, like, music that I picked.
00:29:42:20 - 00:30:03:03
Speaker 2
That's when I started listening to like radio that I chose and not that my parents were listening to because I grew up with, like my dad listening to a lot of music from the 50s and 60s, even though he was a teenager in the 70s. I think it's because he had an older sister that might have been into that.
00:30:03:05 - 00:30:08:06
Speaker 1
Who knows? But parents music choices influence us until a certain age, and then boom.
00:30:08:08 - 00:30:13:03
Speaker 2
And then all of a sudden I found the grunge radio station. I was like, hello?
00:30:13:06 - 00:30:26:11
Speaker 1
That's awesome. Okay, so this was, yeah, if this was 95. So I know I was in college when that album came out, it was huge. So you were ten? I was 20. That album is awesome and it has stayed with us and it's grown with us. We listened to it.
00:30:26:11 - 00:30:27:11
Speaker 2
Listen to it often.
00:30:27:11 - 00:30:39:19
Speaker 1
Yeah, and I have to have it in the order I can't do this shuffle shit that they do now with with streaming music. Yes, you have to listen to the album in order and start to finish. Love that album, Jagged Little Pill.
00:30:39:23 - 00:30:50:15
Speaker 2
I didn't love it start to finish when I was younger. I mean, I listened to it start to finish always, but songs that I did not like as a younger kid, I love now.
00:30:50:17 - 00:30:53:06
Speaker 1
Oh, that's you see how the music has grown. That's why I.
00:30:53:06 - 00:30:57:28
Speaker 2
Never got into, like, Not The Doctor, and that's one of my favorite songs on the album now.
00:30:58:04 - 00:31:04:08
Speaker 1
So I think that's a good one. I, I'm so glad you mentioned that album. I wish I had such.
00:31:04:08 - 00:31:22:13
Speaker 2
A good album and her follow up album, which for some reason did not get great reviews. Supposedly former Infatuation Junkie, very good album. So I think people were just they wanted the same thing. And she changed you know, she grew. Yeah. As an artist, human and albums are awesome.
00:31:22:18 - 00:31:35:07
Speaker 1
Yeah, I loved that album. In 95. I was in college and then I got to see that album, this amazing concert the following summer of 96 and Radiohead opened for her.
00:31:35:08 - 00:31:37:05
Speaker 2
Wow. Radiohead opened opened.
00:31:37:07 - 00:32:02:18
Speaker 1
For us, and it was such a good concert and the entire crowd was singing every song. It's just one of those. It was so good. I love that album. I'm glad you mentioned that one. So you were ten, I was 20. Oh, when that came out. I'm, I'm. That's interesting. You picked something for this question from when you were ten to I know this album came out that I'm about to mention in the 80s, ten years prior, I was ten.
00:32:02:23 - 00:32:03:17
Speaker 2
Oh, wow.
00:32:03:20 - 00:32:03:24
Speaker 1
Right.
00:32:03:29 - 00:32:05:23
Speaker 2
Very formative time in life.
00:32:05:23 - 00:32:18:01
Speaker 1
Yes. And it's a cassette tape. And I had to listen to side one, flip it, listen to side to. I know the exact order. The first song to this day is still my favorite song.
00:32:18:06 - 00:32:18:23
Speaker 2
Awesome.
00:32:18:23 - 00:32:21:10
Speaker 1
Do you have any guesses on The Artist? You know, my favorite song?
00:32:21:11 - 00:32:25:00
Speaker 2
I do know your favorite song, Red Rain by Peter Gabriel.
00:32:25:01 - 00:32:31:01
Speaker 1
So my favorite song is Red Rain by Peter Gabriel. The album is called so.
00:32:31:04 - 00:32:37:05
Speaker 2
Such a good out so. But I didn't discover that album until I was in my 20s.
00:32:37:07 - 00:32:59:04
Speaker 1
Oh, good. So it's universal. Okay, here we go. I was 1011. I got my first boombox, went to, Spinnaker Records, but I bought that tape. Wasn't my first tape, but I bought that intentionally, listened to it on repeat. Loved every song. In your eyes, of course, people know that one really good romantic.
00:32:59:04 - 00:32:59:17
Speaker 2
Hammer.
00:32:59:17 - 00:33:01:21
Speaker 1
Gorgeous song. That's not a great song. I know.
00:33:01:21 - 00:33:02:19
Speaker 2
But people know that.
00:33:02:19 - 00:33:21:12
Speaker 1
Song in your eyes is the one I think people know. Red rain came out as a single, but it wasn't like as popular. But interesting about this question that we were asked about how like, it's moved or aged with us or politically, there's a song at the end of side B, the second side of the Tape City album.
00:33:21:15 - 00:33:39:10
Speaker 1
I have the album as well, the vinyl. We do what we're told and there aren't a lot of lyrics to it. And as a kid I kind of and I'm like, oh yeah, we do it. We're told, like, okay, as a kid that meant something different than what it means now. Oh, we're so fucking brainwashed as humans.
00:33:39:10 - 00:34:03:22
Speaker 1
And a lot of that album is about that. I mean, not all of it but a lot of it. And so I, I've always admired Peter Gabriel. I like his music, I like his lyrics. But there's also a song on there that I'm going to credit with, like saving me when I was a teenager. I mean, saving me at my depths of despair when I felt like everything was awful and I was going to die.
00:34:03:22 - 00:34:28:14
Speaker 1
And the world sucked as we do when we're teenagers. And I would turn to a very specific song on there, the only one he did on that album as a duet. He did it with Kate Bush. This song is called Don't Give Up. And again it was released as a single but not it didn't like make huge headway like in Your Eyes did Don't Give Up was such I my I just happened to be watering.
00:34:28:14 - 00:34:29:23
Speaker 1
I'm not crying. That's okay.
00:34:29:23 - 00:34:31:10
Speaker 2
It's okay if you're crying. It's okay.
00:34:31:10 - 00:34:47:17
Speaker 1
No, I'm not. Don't Give Up by Peter Gabriel and Kate Bush is a phenomenal song that has grown with me and aged with me. Well, and I highly recommend both Jagged Little Pill and so both artists are awesome.
00:34:47:19 - 00:34:53:24
Speaker 2
And anything by Kate Bush, another artist I didn't discover till I was in my 20s and became.
00:34:53:26 - 00:34:54:27
Speaker 2
Totally obsessed with.
00:34:54:27 - 00:35:16:20
Speaker 1
Yes, amazing. She was definitely in my life. In my life. She was a friend. These albums, these singers, these people in my room as a teenager, I considered them friends. They knew me. They understood me. They're writing lyrics that made me feel a certain way. And I think those those albums that are, like, really part of those developmental years, adolescence, years, the emotional years can really stay with you.
00:35:16:20 - 00:35:38:02
Speaker 1
And luckily, a really good way. Like our, almost a way to cope, you know, for sure. So we love that question and we want to throw it out to the audience. Please join in this conversation. What are you working on with art or anything artistic or creative? What are you trying that's new? What are your feelings about process versus result?
00:35:38:08 - 00:35:46:16
Speaker 1
What is inspiring you? And certainly we'd love to know what music specifically, what album meant something to you.
00:35:46:21 - 00:35:47:07
Speaker 2
As heard.
00:35:47:07 - 00:35:49:04
Speaker 1
With the kid that has still stayed with you?
00:35:49:04 - 00:35:58:08
Speaker 2
Yeah, yeah, I have others I could totally add to that. Like I could go down a rabbit hole with that question, so I love it. It's a great question. I do.
00:35:58:08 - 00:36:01:01
Speaker 1
We both did. The one that came to mind because I could too.
00:36:01:01 - 00:36:10:15
Speaker 2
But yep, that was definitely Jagged little pill was definitely the album that I first became obsessed with.
00:36:10:17 - 00:36:20:29
Speaker 1
It's a good one. She changed everything. And what I mean, it was shocking when it came out. That's why I asked you how old you were, because I can. That came out. She's talking about going down on someone in a theater. I'm like.
00:36:21:02 - 00:36:21:06
Speaker 2
Did.
00:36:21:06 - 00:36:22:17
Speaker 1
You even understand? Okay.
00:36:22:25 - 00:36:25:21
Speaker 2
I just thought, like it was going down, you know.
00:36:25:24 - 00:36:26:04
Speaker 1
I was.
00:36:26:04 - 00:36:27:08
Speaker 2
Ten. I didn't get it.
00:36:27:08 - 00:36:42:17
Speaker 1
She go down on you in the theater, and I love the radio because radio is not a big thing anymore. But back then I would listen to that live on the radio. And for that song to be on there, I was like, oh, scandalous, I loved it, love that album so much. I love both of those albums. Yeah.
00:36:42:20 - 00:37:02:18
Speaker 1
So we want to hear from you. Whatever your thoughts are on any of these things, and we are also just really glad you're here. This conversation is going this weekly podcast is happening because, we get enthusiasm and an inspiration from you out there listening and commenting. So thank you.
00:37:02:21 - 00:37:12:25
Speaker 2
Yeah, thanks for hanging with us. Thanks for sharing with us. It means a lot and we are here for you. You're here for us. And let's all just hang out.
00:37:12:27 - 00:37:14:06
Speaker 1
12 episodes.
00:37:14:09 - 00:37:15:13
Speaker 2
We all art.
00:37:15:15 - 00:37:17:28
Speaker 1
As we are. Honey, this is still a blank.
00:37:18:00 - 00:37:25:09
Speaker 2
I know I have an idea for the second abyss. Okay, so I will be executing that within the coming weeks.
00:37:25:14 - 00:37:34:12
Speaker 1
The white wall behind me, I'm like, where is my art? Behind me. Yeah, okay. As we art, we're here. We're glad you're here. We will see you next week. Thanks for tuning.
00:37:34:12 - 00:37:36:26
Speaker 2
In. Thanks. Bye bye.