Welcome back to the inspired
living with auto-immunity podcast.
I'm your host, Julie Michaelson.
And today we're talking toxins
with Therese Forton-Barnes.
And do we cover a lot!
Teres gives us tips and tricks
to take control of our health
by reducing our toxin exposure
in our homes and on our backs.
We cover practical steps we can take
to clean up our homes and how truly
clean products like teas organics can
make living clean easier for all of us.
Theresa welcome to the podcast.
I'm so excited.
You're here.
I am so excited to be
here with you, Julie.
Thanks for having me.
It is genuinely my pleasure.
Anybody who knows me knows this
is one of my passion topics.
So I want to start with.
How finding out, how did you get to
be an environmental toxins coach?
Because I know what you do is so needed
and so valuable, but let's share with the
audience a little bit about your story.
So I grew up in Buffalo, New York.
I still live in Buffalo, New York, and I
grew up in a very health-minded family.
My mother raised us five kids
on an all organic, healthy diet.
She was.
Of Lebanon, Lebanese and Italian
descent and not my father because he
was Irish and he ate horribly, but we
grew up really eating great food and
all organic food and no fast food.
We learned how to cook and
an appreciate real food.
And we grew up in the city too.
So it wasn't like we grew up on a
farm or anything, but we shopped
at a little co-op and then.
Once I went to college, I D I realized,
oh, everybody doesn't eat like this.
This is like abnormal.
We are abnormal, kind of, we were
considered the granola heads,
as we all know that terminology.
And I went to Ithaca college.
When I went to college, I decided
I wanted to get a major in
business and a minor in health.
And I wanted to open
up a health food store.
Suitable for everybody in a large store.
And everybody knows that store
is whole foods right now.
And I have nothing to do with whole
foods because I came out of college
as a party planner, go, go figure.
But I am a party planner and I had a
party planning event planning and wedding
planning business the last 35 years or so.
So, but through the course of all
those years, I even in college,
all my college friends still tell
me to this day that I had so much
influence on them and their eating
and exercising and what they bought.
But I did that throughout the course
of the last three and a half decades.
And I was still helping people.
It was just in my nature to help people.
I wanted to tell more people.
I was constantly posting
on any social media.
You know, 10 or 15 years when it came out.
And even during those years, I was
helping some cancer patients that came
to me and they wanted to figure out
how to, what could be in their house.
It could have caused their cancer
or what carcinogens are in some
of the personal care products.
So I was doing it all long kind
of self-teaching myself to and
staying And tuned what, what was
happening in this green space?
So, and then fast forward to 2020
prior to the pandemic, even I
decided 2020 was going to be my year.
I'm going to transition into
really, I wanted to really go at
it almost full time and kind of do
the event planning on, on the side.
And I had done.
Over 700 advents at that point.
And if anybody plans an event,
they know they're tiring.
And I just wanted to really go with what
I had in my blood for the longest time.
And that was to help people detoxer homes
get chemicals out of their homes, avoid
cancer, and look at all the alternatives
that are out there that people just don't
know about because they are so I'm so used
to buying these products that they were
told to do when they were kids or that's
what they had, or that smell was something
that they could relate to or marketing.
And they look on TV as you know, these
are products that everybody does.
So that is where I.
Where I am today.
And the pandemic actually
helped me kind of in an odd way
because I couldn't plan events.
So I, all I could do was sit at
my computer and educate myself and
take courses and see where I wanted
to take it, where I wanted to be.
And that's where I am today.
Well, I'm so grateful that you're doing
what you're doing because it is so needed.
Right.
It's such a vast area.
If we think about, you know, clients
ask me all the time about product.
I couldn't possibly, I mean, nobody
probably could name every name of
every chemical or pseudo name of
every chemical that should be avoided.
And we're gonna, we're going to
get into some of that as well.
I know that you, you mentioned even
before you were doing this as a business,
you were supporting people with cancer.
You know, helping prevent relapse
from cleaning up their homes
and finding the carcinogens.
But I also know you have a
connection with auto-immunity.
So would you be willing to
share with the audience about.
Yes, absolutely.
So my sister has a mitochondrial disease
and she is, and she grew up, we grew
up together, you know, obviously,
but chemicals affect her so much that
if she even comes in contact with.
Even somebody that's using bed, laundry
soap or dryer sheets, like somebody
behind us does, we cannot sit outside
because she will go into her hat.
She will get a migraine for days.
She will get a rash on her body.
Her body cannot handle any chemicals.
Comes anywhere near her.
And this is part of her
mitochondrial illness.
And so through the course of
living, I mean, I, I don't know
when she actually developed this,
but probably about 20 years ago,
she was in and out of the hospital.
We couldn't figure anything out.
And ultimately the doctors decided,
and they, they narrowed it down to the
mitochondria and she was very weak.
And so.
She is a big part of why I
am doing what I am doing.
Yeah.
Yep.
And she is actually behind the
scenes doing a lot of the things
that like I'll send her a product
and say, Jamie, tell me about, what
do you think about this product?
She will go through every ingredient,
every chemical in there, or.
Whatever's in there
and say, you know what?
I think it's okay.
Or you know what, there's
five ingredients in there.
I wouldn't even dare put on your website.
So we worked aside inside and It's
not to say she's my Guinea pig,
because I don't want to say that.
But she, as in a sense, because she
really, she filters out a lot when I
when I'm trying to promote different
products or researching different things.
I understand that.
I know.
First of all, I know at least even just
from my client base and my own personal
experience, how many people can relate
Mm.
it just literally had a conversation
with a client yesterday.
We were on a coaching
call and she was walking.
She was taking a walk, which
we had decided was a great
plan to leave her desk.
And she was walking past a
house that was doing laundry.
The house was closed,
it was all closed up.
And she was like, I cannot, can
you imagine what it's like in
the house if this is what it's
like outside on the street.
And so, so many.
It's you know, chicken or egg, even,
I always there's several potential
root causes for auto immunity.
And that has become one of w people
don't even think about so many that
are, that are chemically sensitive.
Don't realize that they're
chemically sensitive.
And so that's become like such a
great, you I'll say, how do you do
with fragrance or, you know and then
I know like, okay, maybe we maybe
need to start with detox first or
right.
so it, it really does.
It plays such an important role.
And I really do believe it is such
a huge factor as to why autoimmunity
and cancer, why they're ramping.
Now, and the numbers are, I mean, you
were similarly aged or similarly young,
Yeah, I like that.
auto immunity and cancer bows
were rare when we were kids.
Like those we'll know what that was like.
Oh, wow.
You know, now it's, you know, you
can't know somebody who doesn't
know somebody it's, it's amazing.
So let's talk about, you mentioned
products and we're going to talk
about all sorts of products, but.
Share with us, why it's so important to
know what you're putting on your skin.
I always say in on and around you,
but you know, when I'm working with
people and, and again, I do a much
broader strokes, but I always start
with what literally what's, what
are you using is touching your body.
It just seems like the obvious
place to start, but why is
that important and why should.
So, first of all, we have choices
and then we don't have choices.
So we all walk outside our doors and we
don't have a choice as to what chemicals
we are going to come in contact with.
Whether it's from somebody that's
a car whatever's in the air right
outside, but there's choices
that we can make that will.
To decrease your toxic overload.
And we do know that these chemicals,
many of these chemicals and there's
over 80,000 chemicals out there that
we do know, and scientists have proven
that they do Harm your immune system.
So you're, and if we're talking about
auto-immune illnesses, you know,
we all want to, no matter if you
have an autoimmune illness or you
don't, we all, especially this day
in age, we all hear about it, you
know, boosting your immune system.
So we always want to
boost our immune system.
And one way to do that is to avoid.
Chemicals and get them.
So your immune system has a much
better chance to fight off everything
else, as opposed to things that
you're putting on your body in
your body you're showering with.
So there's, there's products that and
you have options and there are plenty
of options out there these days.
Thankfully, because years ago you'd
have to really search for some of
To make your own, you
basically.
Yeah.
And you, and that's a good thing too
now, because you can make some of your
own, you can that's that's the beauty
of the internet too right now, because
like just let's say coconut oil.
I use coconut oil on my skin.
I'll sometimes use it on my face at night.
I oil pull with it if you're familiar
with oil point, but I mean, you can't
get anything cheaper than coconut oil.
Organic, of course.
To use, and it's also great
for if you've got burned.
It's great for that.
I mean, there's just, there's
some products that you can use.
All the time in your house, you
don't need 20 different products
that they tell you that you need
that have these preservatives in
them and have these whitening agents
that are cancer causing chemicals.
So really, I'm sorry, I'm all over
the place with this, but what,
what it really comes down to is
what you are putting on your body.
Okay.
In your mouth and what
you were breathing in.
So all of these elements add up if
you're putting in different chemicals
and the other, the other thing I
always tell people is you don't know
if they say, well, they say, you
know, X, Y, and Z is at safe levels.
Well, you don't, we don't know.
Nobody knows.
This product and this product and those
chemicals, once they get in your body,
what could they be doing to your system?
You just, you just really have to,
you have to be conscious of anything.
You're like, anytime I use anything.
So I was away this past week with friends
in Florida, my high school reunion.
And I had, I look at every label, I will
not put, I mean, some of the Springs they
were using, I was, I w I was cringing.
I brought down all this great
sunscreen for them to use, and
it was just, I fight my battles.
I tell them what I know, you know,
but those are some of the things
that you just have to pay attention.
I know.
People, you know, you really have
to read labels, just like if you're
going to eat something, same thing.
If you're going to put it on your
body, turn it around and read that
label because it's as important as
putting it in your mouth as supposed
to putting on your skin or washing
your hair with it or make up anything.
So.
Absolutely.
I want to circle back to, you
mentioned you threw out a really big
number, right over 80,000 chemicals.
And I think still many people.
Trust right.
But if there's a product that's made
to go in my mouth, like a toothpaste
or on my skin that, well, it's safe
and we've got this big government
and it's making sure we're safe and
people really need to hear that.
You know, they're considered
safe until proven not it's the
opposite of what we would think,
you know, that we're protected.
And, and so I just wanted to circle
like really 80,000, over 80,000.
And now we, we don't until really, really,
really bad stuff happens to enough people.
We just, you know, we have no idea and
those are just the ones that are listed.
You know, the stuff that there's
not a high enough percentage to even
be required to be on the label as
though it's a whole nother category.
So you can scan up what
we're putting on our skin.
I mean, it's our biggest organ.
We kind of forget it's an Oregon.
And so we are absorbing good,
bad and ugly on our skin.
So where do people start?
I know you mentioned coconut oil.
That might be a big jump.
The people that are using, you
know, commercial, typical the
products they grew up with.
But do you have, when you
walk people through kind of,
where do you have them start?
Okay.
So when I am, first of all,
I'm those 80,000 chemicals.
I like people to understand.
And I'll get into your question,
understand that in the United States and
you brought this up, but I want to compare
it to the UK and in the United States.
And we can all make a product
and you do not have to prove
it's safe until it's guilty.
Whereas in the United
Kingdom or UAE, I'm sorry.
You, sorry.
You.
If you don't use it in Europe,
you don't want to use it here.
That's all I can say.
Well, they, and that they have a
policy that their products there,
they have to prove they're safe
before they allow them on the market.
So it's two totally different.
It is logical, but
United States go figure.
I mean, so we all have
to be our own advocates.
We all have to pay attention to anything
that we are using because our EPA, as,
as much as they may be protecting our
environment, they're not protecting.
The the citizens, because there's,
there's way too many products out there
there's way too many chemicals and
all of those laws are so backwards.
So on that note, we have to be our own
advocates and we have to pay attention.
We can't, we can't say, you know, this
product is on the market and it is okay.
So going back to your original question,
but I'd like people to understand
that because here comes my dog.
I see the zoom
Did he zoom,
for that.
Liz one audio, there was a puppy flying by
puppy flying by it.
He just went for a walk and he comes
right to me when he's like, I'm back.
So the question, your question was how
starting point.
You know,
starting point?
we've mentioned, I usually start
in the bathroom, but what do you,
where do you have people start?
Okay.
That's a, it's a good question.
And I always try not to get,
let people get overwhelmed
because it can be overwhelming.
Yeah.
And here's the, the sorry to jump
in, but it can be overwhelming, but,
but I want to encourage people to
focus on what you said about we're.
We're going to build resilience.
Like that's the aim is to build resilience
and you weren't being doom and gloom.
When you said you can't
control what you're exposed to.
When you step out your door.
The point is, and the positive is
we can control what we're using in
our homes, on our bodies, in our
bodies and create that resilience so
that what's going on outside, isn't
affecting us, or at least not to the
level of where it's making us sick.
So I just wanted to focus because
it can be a overwhelming and B once
people really understand, they can be
like, oh my gosh, well, why bother?
But because we can make an impact.
And you can make an impact and
you can start reducing these
chemicals that are in your system.
Sometimes when I go through people's
homes, I have indoor air quality
monitors, and it'll show me what
levels of chemicals are in each room.
And that is It's fun for me to do that.
And it's fun for me to show them
that once they start making changes,
these, these numbers start coming
down and not in danger ranges anymore.
So the, my, my number one space I
go to first is the laundry room.
If they do laundry laundry at home laundry
and cleaning supplies, that's my biggest.
Area that is always showing the, the
amount of toxic chemicals that are not
only in your air and you're breathing
them in, but they're on your clothes.
They're on your countertop and
they're on your floor and they're on.
It depends on what you're cleaning with.
Of course.
Yeah.
But with laundry detergent, a
simple switch and, but a hard one
for some people, because if you
have, yeah, it's a very hard one.
And if you, if you're used to that
smell that you think is an outdoor
smell or a fresh smell or a fresh
laundry smell, and you grew up with
it, unfortunately, those are hard.
Chemicals.
Most of them are cancer causing chemicals.
Oh, not most of them, a
lot of them are in there.
And even if you use the free and clear,
they, they are still using, you have
to really look at those, those brands
that are saying that there's no.
That they're they're fragrance free,
or unscented.
unscented, those are keywords like or
natural, you know, those are, those
are warning signs to say that's all
about the marketing because they're
jumping on the bandwagon of this green
movement and it's called greenwashing.
So you really have to, again, you have
to look at the label and you never, you
never, the back, you never want to be.
Anything with the word fragrance on it.
I don't care what it is because
that is an old from the 1940s.
It was a law that the perfume
industry came out and said, well,
we want to have a trades, we need
trade secrets on our ingredients.
And so they said, okay, if it's
labeled fragrance, then you don't
have to tell anybody what's in it.
So that has we're in 2021.
We're almost a hundred years later.
We'll update it.
It's insane.
Yeah.
insane.
So that's, I mean, most of these
bad laundry detergents have these
fragrances fragrances in them and
so, yeah, I totally can see where
laundry would make such a huge impact,
because think about you're sleeping on
your pillowcase, drying off with your
towel just on, on, on, but when it comes
to the fragrance that catch all word.
For those with chemical sensitivity,
I mean, that's a huge fragrance
can knock people down for days
and that's just the symptom.
That's not really even
what it's what it's doing.
But I just wanted to add, so I
wanted to kind of hit that one
home because it's in your laundry
detergent, it's in your personal
care products, it's in your cleaning
products, it's in your septic candles.
It's, you know, it's.
I had to get out of a, Nuber a friend,
a friend of mine, and I were at the
biohacking conference and a few years
ago, and we were going out to dinner and
we literally both she's looking at me.
I mean, we were like, windows were down.
We were trying.
And then I was like, do I want
to get a migraine for three days?
No, I really don't.
Neither did she.
And we both know.
We, we were like, you know what?
Nevermind what was out.
And that's, so that's anybody
connected with Uber that's listening.
That should be an option for one of the
cars would be fragrance-free because it's
really, it's really hard to get away from.
Once you start to make them aware,
Yeah.
it's an everything.
I'm so glad you brought up that Uber,
because I have, I wrote them and
told them that I don't know if I'm
getting anywhere, but just we'll see.
I took one.
I took one of those home and
put it in front of my air
indoor air quality monitor.
And it went crazy with the VOC
that were being out guest by that.
So I agree with you on that.
And so, and I have an Airbnb and I
promote that it's a green Airbnb.
I use no toxic.
I was, you know, cleaning supplies here.
I wish.
I would totally say there,
Yes, you would.
I get a lot of people for
My partner has to go in ahead of
me when we travel and he makes
sure there's nothing overtly.
That's going to get me
and ruin the trip with
Yeah, I agree.
I do that for my sister.
It's horrible.
Yeah, you mentioned.
So it's, it's interesting.
Cause I say, make your home your hands.
And then I follow it with what you
just mentioned, which is one thing I
think so many people don't realize is
that often their indoor air quality
in their home is worse than outdoor,
even if they live maybe in a city.
So let's explore that a
little bit because you.
For those of you listening on
audio, you don't know this,
but I've got plants behind me.
You have plants behind you.
And so I feel like we were
destined to discuss indoor air con.
Absolutely.
And plants are great.
Plants are great at cleaning the air
out and increasing the oxygen level
and they they're so, and it's even if
you have, you don't have a green thumb.
There's plants out there that are so
easy to take care of peace lilies.
You don't want them until they wilt.
That's simple, right?
They don't need that much sun.
The snake plant it barely after water it
another great one to put in your bedroom
and to clean the air in your bedroom.
So yes, I'm all about plants as you can.
You know, if you're on the video,
you can see I'm, I've got a big
green room behind me and playing.
As many as we can put in the house.
So.
I love it.
And share with us a little
bit about, you touched on it.
You know, why, well, why is
it so I'm, I'm, I've cleaned
up the products in my home.
Why do I still need to be even thinking
about my indoor air quality these days?
And I can tell you, well,
I'll let me hear your answer.
Yeah.
So it depends on where you live.
So if you live in a condo and there's
very little or you're near thruway,
or you're near, it depends on what's
coming in your home too as well, or
what is what control you have over.
Air quality of your home.
So I always, I always go through a
list of things to make sure you have
the best air quality in your home.
So if you have ceiling fans, you
might have make sure you're always
cleaning those ceiling fans.
I am crazy about
single-family ceiling fans.
I will travel.
And if I, I am always up there going.
This with my finger, because I will never
put a ceiling fan on because in the dust
could be so many, it's not just dust.
There could be chemicals up there
from outgassing from any, anything
that has flame retardants on it,
which is a whole nother subject too.
But flame retardants are net
nasty chemicals that they spray
on so many different products.
So same thing, not only
cleaning your fans, but also.
Don't forget to clean your filters
in your air conditioners or your,
your, your furnace or your, whatever
you have to bring in when you're
bringing in heat or cool air.
Those are really important that
you are cleaning those out.
So you're not blowing in dust
to your house all the time.
The opening, your windows.
Is a huge factor.
Of course it depends on where you live,
you know, and I mean, if you have like
windows open, but generally the outdoor
air is a lot cleaner than the indoor air.
And that's what the EPA even says that and
a lot of houses especially if they're new
houses that you are everything's airtight.
A pressure test?
The,
the, To make sure that
your house is sealed?
I, I remember before we
knew what I now know.
You know, I used to think I, one
of my challenges was mold toxicity.
So.
Well, moving into new homes always made
me feel really good about the fact that
I was moving into a new home until.
Learned about outgassing and VOC
is and flooring and furniture and
paint and hermetically sealed houses.
And and, and that's why that's
what I wanted to touch on.
You know, it's you walk into
my home and it seems great.
Also it is loaded with plants and I'm
careful, and I, you know, but if you're
not being conscientious, pretty much
everything in your home at some point is,
you know, Offgassing you know, the VOC is,
are in the furniture, as you mentioned,
the flame retardants, and we just need to
be conscientious about what's in there.
And, and I was definitely one of
those people who felt like, you know,
I always, in my little bubble, I was
breathing cleaner air until I land.
Yeah, right.
I mean, how would we know?
You don't know, you
think that it's all okay.
But you know, even when you buy a new
pair of sneakers, let's just say, and you
open up that box and you smell that smell.
That's outgassing.
So whenever I buy new sneakers,
although I'm trying to find more
sustainable ones now, but I, I, I
let them out guess outside drag.
Your dry cleaning, unless you're using
a green dry cleaner, but you still
have some chemicals that they're using.
I know there there's some.
Better dry cleaning services.
These days you bring, if
you're driving home with it
it's out guessing in your car.
They say to leave it outside, if you
have an opportunity, but outside, take
it out of the bag outside, let it out.
Guess outside before you
bring it into your home.
And these are just simple little
things that you can do to reduce
your toxic exposure in your house.
So,
And that's where we have the control.
yeah, exactly.
every small step really
does make a big difference.
Speaking of steps, we
touched on products and that.
We'll have to make our own
anymore, which is fantastic.
You have an amazing product
align, tease organics.
Tell us a little bit about it.
So I started teaser organics.
I started I started getting into
essential oils and my sister,
Jamie, who has the autoimmune
illness she loves essential oils.
She actually, they help her.
And so we started.
Exploring diff she said, what
about a cleaning product?
That's in glass bottles, not these
ones that are in plastic bottles.
If you shouldn't put essential
oils in plastic bottles.
Cause they don't last as long
and they're not as, as potent.
So I started experimenting
with it and I took.
Some of the things I loved in the
feeds, which a young living produces.
I took some of the things that
doTERRA does and they're on
guard that I like in there.
I took some other things and we came
up with this fabulous, a recipe all
made in the United States and a blue,
wonderful recycle bowl glass jar.
And they're produced here where I live
in Buffalo, New York, a manufacturer
here does that for us, for us.
But.
Really wanted something really healthy
for you and your home is, are saying, and
when you it's, it's an all-purpose cleaner
right now we have, and then we have three
rooms sprays that we're slowly going
to add some more products and we have a
subscription we're going to be adding.
So then you just have
to add it to the bottle.
And so you don't have to buy
a whole nother big bottle.
So.
It was all about finding something
made in the USA, not in plastic, not
using any chemicals and something
that supported our immune system as
opposed to hurting our immune system.
I love that.
And where can people find you?
So on our website, which is
the green living gurus.com.
There's a tab that says
shop and it's right there.
And we just started shipping out.
So we're, we're gearing up.
We have plenty of plenty of product
Probably not for long.
I hope so because then,
well, we'll have plenty.
We'll just keep making
it as long as possible.
I have a great crew that is putting
it all together and it ships out.
The everybody keeps telling me, like
it's shipped out in a day or two.
I'm like, awesome.
I love it.
So, yeah.
So it's
be in the show notes as well, and real
easy for, for listeners to find that
And we have a Facebook page to it.
I don't know if I told you
that either Julie, but there's
a T T's organic Facebook.
And by the way, my nickname is
T for anybody that doesn't know
that everybody calls me T so.
Wonderful.
So we, we covered a lot of there.
There's I don't even know
at least a dozen things.
If somebody wants to play this
a bunch of times that they
can steps that they can take.
But what is one step, if you were
going to say, you know, just one thing.
If somebody was going to start today,
one step they can take to start to
improve their health or protect them.
So one step the really
starting to know ingredients.
I know I say read the labels,
but you really just have to start
knowing some of these ingredients
that they're putting in it.
And products and starting
to pay attention.
We all know how to read and.
You can, you can turn labels over
and make sure that things that
are in these products are not.
Chemicals that are going to
really hurt your immune system and
anybody with an autoimmune illness.
Your and I know that I've
seen it happen to my sister is
effected by these chemicals.
And so we really, as citizens
have to pay attention and be each
other's advocates and speak up and.
Let other people know because it's
really gonna take a grassroots effort.
And luckily, thankfully, it's moving the
whole everything shifting, but again,
we, I even have to pay attention because.
Everybody has to pay attention,
but I know ingredients, and
sometimes they'll slip that.
They'll take one ingredient out
and they'll put another one in
and you just have to be attentive.
Candles.
Candles could be the
worst thing for anybody's
immune system.
I used to love them before
I
knew what you were doing to
me then, and now I can't even.
there's some good ones out there.
So one thing that you can do is
there's an, you've probably talked
about this before Julie, but
there there's some good resources.
Environmental working group has a,
has a nice app called think dirty.
Now, is it the best?
Those are two different ones that there's
I'm sorry.
Think dirty.
Yes.
Think dirty and
and environmental working group.
Yeah.
And there's so there's, there's,
there's clear area, which is a whole,
a new one that is on Amazon that
tells you how toxic ingredients are,
but you have to sign up for that.
My favorite one organization that
I support that my sister, she knows
that if she buys anything they
advocate for or support or certify
is made safe, that is my all time.
Favorite.
Non-profit that certifies products that,
that are as least toxic as possible.
And if they're stringent with their
certification products, someday
T's organics will be certified
by made prob made made safe
because I just love what they do.
They're amazing.
a great resource and so many but I,
I'm not familiar with made safe, so
I'm really excited to dig in and learn.
And I know we'll be, we'll be seeing
two's organics on there before too long.
I hope so.
Absolutely.
So you mentioned you have the Facebook
page and your website, is that the
best place for listeners to find you.
Yeah.
That's best.
I'm on Instagram as well.
Trying to grow.
Yep.
Instagram is
has like their favorite place.
Those that's why I was
checking which one are.
And they, they, the links to all of
them will be in the show notes as well.
And I cannot thank you enough for
being with us today and sharing.
I know we talked about it
before I even hit record.
You know, we could probably talk
for an hour and a half and not
even scratch the surface of all the
different things I want to talk to you
I know.
so much gold.
I just pick one thing guys, and you
know, I, it's funny with it's toxins,
it's food, read the labels, learn to
turn stuff around and read those labels.
absolutely.
And especially as women, we are
just inundated with products
that it's sad.
It's just, and they know that we
all like to buy these products and
they just keep giving us toxic ones.
So pay attention.
and thank you for being part of that.
Yeah.
And the good news is once you stop using
these products, your body is so wonderful
that it can get rid of these toxins.
It will heal.
It will heal.
So that's a good thing, and it
will reduce the, the stress you're
putting on your immune system.
So.
Absolutely.
Well, Theresa, thank you so, so much.
and thank you for everything
you're doing Julie . I'd love
to support you too as well.
You're you're helping other
people, many people out there.
So keep, keep going and you
know, we'll stay connected.
Thank you.
Yes, we will team up.
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I hope you had a great time and
enjoyed this episode as much as I did.
I will see you next week.