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One of the final nails in the coffin was actually Charlie Kirk dying.
Cole:Wow. Yeah. Wait. I'm so curious now.
Christian:I remember going back to my hotel room that night and being like, okay. I'm at a crossroads here.
Cole:Yeah.
Christian:Either I have to fully surrender my life in every area to God or I need to stop calling myself a believer. Because I'm like I'm this is like, like, fundamentally something is wrong here.
Cole:Dude, that's like, you're talking like crossroads. That's like that's like a t section. That's like
Christian:Well, I'm like, I can't because I I can be a very analytical logical thinker. I'm like, this is not right. Like, I have to either fully surrender and my actions have to reflect that or I gotta walk away.
Cole:Oh my goodness. I can't even imagine, dude. I would like have a panic attack, I think. Dude, and it's so scriptural too. Like, oh my gosh.
Cole:Like Jesus literally says, either you hate your father and your mother. So like okay. So I don't wanna go too much on tangy. But I love I love this so much. If you wanna be my disciple, hate your your father and mother.
Cole:Not exactly in that, so don't quote me on that. But it's it's just like that concept of like, he's not actually telling us to hate our father and mother. Right. You know? He says honor your father and mother, and your brother, and your sister, you know.
Cole:Yeah. But it's like in comparison to your whole life. Like your family, your love for your family is like here, and your love for Jesus is like through the roof.
Christian:Yeah.
Cole:And it should be that way. And if it's not that way, then you are not truly following God.
Christian:So if you truly believe that God is the creator of the universe, what is wrong? Like, you have access to him every single day, all day, every day, and you're waking up and choosing like, nah, I'm not gonna pray today. Like, what?
Cole:Dude, it's so crazy. When you put it that way, it's like mind boggling, honestly. Like, I'm not trying to be mean to anybody out there, what are we doing?
Christian:Yeah. Like I also I have the hot take that most Christians don't actually believe in heaven.
Cole:Wait. Okay. Explain. I hate that. That kinda caught me off guard.