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Hi. So starting this episode a little bit different than we usually do. As you can probably tell by the title, we're gonna talk a little bit about the royal family drama, specifically, what was going on with Kate Middleton and, you know, the royal family. And at the time of recording, we did not know that Kate Middleton was diagnosed with cancer. So I just wanted to put this disclaimer first, so that anything that might come off as insensitive or conspiratorial, like, we did not know that she had cancer.
Liz:You know, we're still gonna run this episode because, you know, it was a big thing on Twitter to, you know, bring up conspiracy theories, and we wanted to talk about it still. And me and Hannah recorded, hopefully, what you think is a great, podcast still, but wanted to put this disclaimer that we do know that it was updated and to say that, you know, we're sorry for, you know, the royal family and Kate and everything that, you know, this diagnosis come out. But, I hope you still enjoy the episode, and we'll see you next week with something that I probably won't have to disclaimer. But yeah. Thanks.
Liz:Enjoy. Hello, and welcome back to House Lights. Your one stop shop for everything you need to hear about this week in the world of entertainment. As always, I'm your host Liz Noss, and I am joined by the beautiful, the illustrious Hannah Holy Cross.
Hannah:Thank you. Happy to be here.
Liz:It's a good week for you for podcasts.
Hannah:It is. You've got the night to be here. How's life? What's next?
Liz:What's next? Who knows sports round table? You know a lot about sports?
Hannah:No. But I'd be glad to put in my 2¢ on what the one thing I do know.
Liz:What's the one thing you do know?
Hannah:That Caitlin Clark's making records.
Liz:That's so true.
Hannah:And you
Liz:know what? Women's issues. Exactly. Women's issues on sports round table. Mhmm.
Liz:Well, we're gonna talk about a women's issue today. Specifically, the prince it's princess of Wales. Right? Yes. She's the princess of Wales.
Liz:I don't know if there's any other places you can be a princess of,
Hannah:but There's, well, we'll get into this later, but there's, like, the minstress of I don't even know.
Liz:That's not even a word.
Hannah:It's not even a word. I don't know where They actually made that up. It was, like, the, like, not duchess, but whatever the rose woman is from.
Liz:And people were
Hannah:like, that's made up, but it's not. But it sounds made up. That sounds made
Liz:up. So Yeah. Basically, we're talking today about the royal family drama. You have heard about it all, all over social media. And what, I guess, I, yeah, I just wanna ask, how did you get into it, Hannah?
Liz:Because when I posted in the state news Slack, I was like, I really need someone to talk about it. You were like, yes, please.
Hannah:It has consumed me the past 2 weeks. And so I first found out about it on, Twitter slash x, which I try to only use Twitter for business reasons, but Yes. Typically fails because my phone knows me too well. And I was, like, scrolling around on my Twitter feed, and this was, like, right when the theories started kinda popping up. So maybe 3, 2 weeks ago.
Hannah:I just saw one tweet and it was, like, a long paragraph about how someone was kind of suspicious of the fact that they, like, made came out with the statement about Kate's abdominal surgery and she was gonna be out of the public out of the blue that the surgery happened. They're very vague about what the surgery was, why the recovery is gonna be so long, and, like, why hasn't Kate come up with the statement thanking, like, people for their well wishes, stuff like that. So I saw that, and I was like, like, that's a good point. And I'm like, all the comments were like, they killed her.
Liz:I was
Hannah:like, what?
Liz:Let's let's give a little bit of that.
Hannah:I was like yeah. I was like, let's, like, pause. Like, I was like, let's, like I was like, I need to look into this more because that would be wild.
Liz:Yeah. So for, yeah, for background purposes, Kate Middleton, you know, married to, William. William. Yeah. William.
Liz:Because Harry is the one that's married to Meghan Markle. Mhmm. They they all sound the same to me because they all have those British boy names. It's like Yeah. George, William, Harry.
Liz:So but yeah. So Kate Middleton, and King Charles both have health health issues at the same time. Yes. It's like King, King Charles goes into surgery for his enlarged prostate And that's not funny, guys. It's a health issue.
Liz:Okay? It's not funny. But then around the same time, they're like, Kate Middleton also supposed to go into emergency surgery Yeah. For abdominal pain or something.
Hannah:It's just at this point, I'm like, what's in the water in Buckingham Palace? Why all these emergency surgeries? And what's also getting to me is that all this is happening amidst Charles is in this health crisis. People are like, well, he was probably like, there's a good possibility he might not make it. We don't know what his state is.
Hannah:So William's gonna have to step up to the throne. I just think it's such an odd coincidence that while they're talking about William becoming king, Kate's nowhere to be found. Right.
Liz:What do you what is your what's your theory on that?
Hannah:So I don't have one set one because I've seen so many different ones. Some of them way more heinous than the others, but I do I don't think she's dead.
Liz:No. Okay. So that's, like, the number one.
Hannah:Yeah. That's I'll preface that. I don't think she's dead because I think if she were dead, if that were an accident or on purpose, they would have announced that.
Liz:Right.
Hannah:And if it was on purpose like, look at what they did to Diana. Right. Oh, and that's a That's another thing. Let's do even more ground
Liz:than we talk about Diana.
Hannah:Yeah. So former Prince of Wales.
Liz:Yeah.
Hannah:And I know there's a lot of conspiracy theories about Diana's death. It is kinda odd, almost too convenient for Charles and Camilla with the whole the church isn't like divorce, stuff like that.
Liz:Right.
Hannah:So I honestly feel like if they were gonna kill Kate Middleton, if the royal family is capable of murder, and if they had hypothetically murdered Diana, we've seen them do it before. It wouldn't shock me if they did it again.
Liz:Which I think they are. You know what? I'm gonna say it. I think the royal family is capable of murder.
Hannah:Me too.
Liz:You can publish that headline whatever it is. I I just think the princess Diana situation so basically, she was killed in a car crash with paparazzi. And even if they didn't, like, orchestrate her death, which I think they did.
Hannah:Yeah. It's fishy.
Liz:And they obviously created this presence of, like, letting the media run everything. And, like, and and, like, letting the media, like, overtake their personal boundaries. And so if it was the paparazzi, it makes sense. And it is they absolutely like enable the media to act that way and then cause a car crash. And I think that we see that now as well with Meghan Markle, you know, like have like being basically harassed Exactly.
Liz:Out of the royal family by media. And now, Kate Middleton doesn't really have bad media coverage. She's never had bad media coverage, but now it's more speculation. It almost feels like cover up for her. Specifically, the British media.
Liz:I'm not talking national.
Hannah:Kind of on kind of on the topic of paparazzi crossing boundaries. A big part of this whole thing is people are, like, why all of a sudden can we not get good genuine photos or videos? Like, there the most recent update was the video of her and William at the farmer's market. The video's blurry. It's only a few seconds long.
Hannah:It's from afar. Why weren't I feel like if I saw Kate Middleton amidst all of this, especially as a British citizen, I would have been like, oh my god. It's her pulled out my iPhone, had that Zoom, but we got some blurry video of her holding groceries.
Liz:Since when does
Hannah:she grocery shop?
Liz:So yeah. For real. When do when do the royal family go on grocery
Hannah:I mean, I could be wrong about this, but I've never seen a paparazzi photo of that woman grocery shopping.
Liz:Well, and it's also like, we can barely go on up like Kylie Jenner. Exactly. The princess of Wales. So and also, like, thinking about how the paparazzi interacts with them usually where they're, like, up in their face. I mean, we can't I mean, even the Hollywood fix with those, like, TikTokkers.
Liz:Like, they're up in their face.
Hannah:Get this get the Hollywood fix to London right now. And then For real. And it gets to the bottom of the bag. And then
Liz:for once the sun is, like, at a respectful distance Yeah. From the happy couple. And they have also no one, like, around them. And then I saw a picture that when you zoom in and clear up, it is obviously not her.
Hannah:And another important thing is the children haven't been seen either. They're not recovering from surgery.
Liz:Yeah. That's so weird.
Hannah:But I didn't even I didn't even think about that. But in my opinion, the biggest turning point for this whole debacle was the
Liz:AI image?
Hannah:AI image. That was insane. What gave me chills about this whole situation because at first, like, it was all over my Twitter feed. And it was kinda like other issue. Like, that's, like, interesting, but, you know, we'll see.
Hannah:Right. And then when that happened and I first saw that image, it gave me chills. I was like, there is something so uncanny valley about this image. And then when the Associated Press sent out the email, they killed the image. I was like, this is every journalist of agent know that's a big deal.
Liz:Right. Like, that is a doctor's phone. And, like, it's funny because, like, the statement comes out where she's like, oh, it's not like, I was just playing around with Photoshop. Yeah. Happy Mother's
Hannah:Day. But, like, with the whole Photoshop thing too, is like, I people are like, oh, like, what mom doesn't Photoshop family photos? I'm like, that is the I'm like, yeah. Like, I've had my mom, like, maybe open my eyes more because they were closed or maybe, like, their own airbrush. But, like, there was, like, the sweaters were on a lie on a line.
Hannah:Their fingers were all
Liz:crushed. Yes. The fingers were
Hannah:so weird. Gets to me because I feel like the biggest thing for anyone that's, like, looked into AI and AI images is the biggest flaw with AI right now is that they can't get fingers right.
Liz:Yeah.
Hannah:So I'm like, I'm sure if the royal family was AI generating images, they probably have way better AI software than, like, I would have. Right.
Liz:But Well, and it didn't look terrible. Yeah. It was obviously they put their best intern turn on it. That person has definitely been fired.
Hannah:Yeah.
Liz:They've definitely gotten the Diana privilege like, the Diana treatment right
Hannah:now. Yes.
Liz:But it it looked just like off and me and my ex was so funny. When me and my parents were looking at the picture, we were trying to imitate the fingers because we were like because there I mean, there's 5 at least. Thank god. But, like, we were trying to imitate. We're like, this is not it was like
Hannah:this. Oh my gosh.
Liz:It was like that, and like that is not like a resting hand for, like because, like, kids, like, mess with their hands.
Hannah:Yeah. Because, like, people were, like,
Liz:I need to do that to do that.
Hannah:People were, like, calm down. Like, kids do weird thing on pictures all the time. I'm, like, okay. But this not everyone's kids are royalty. And taking a picture to prove the existence of your mother.
Hannah:So I feel like it William behind the camera would be like, okay. Like, get it together. Like, fun, cross your fingers, please. Like, I feel like you're taking an image that's very much like life or death. Like, you have to prove that this woman's alive, and your son's like like And it wasn't even these fingers.
Liz:It was these fingers. I literally have to do that, like, physically to get my fingers across. Like, That is not a real image.
Hannah:It's it's not. It's not. And the fact that the Associated Press, all these other media outlets had to kill the image just doesn't sit right
Liz:with me. That's not just one Photoshop.
Hannah:That's the point when this started to get scary.
Liz:Right. Where I
Hannah:was like, oh, there is something bad happening. Right. And I kinda wanna get into the theory that I don't wanna say it's like my favorite theory Okay. But it's definitely the most realistic one I've seen, which is that he's having an affair. Lily always
Liz:And that's so princess Diana?
Hannah:It is so princess Diana.
Liz:Can I say one more thing about the photo though really quick?
Hannah:Yes.
Liz:The photo also I saw, I'm I'm sure you did since you're so into it. I saw the reconstruction of her Vogue cover Yes. Too was her was it looked exactly like her face in her Vogue cover and it looked like it was just pressed on.
Hannah:Yeah. Which is just so crazy. Sorry. It's wild.
Liz:Let's get into your theory.
Hannah:Yeah. So I could have the name wrong. I believe it's Lady Rose Hanbury.
Liz:That's really British. Is who
Hannah:I could be sorry. I know it's Rose. You might have to fact check me on that one.
Liz:It's Lady Rose Hembore.
Hannah:Oh, perfect. Oh my gosh. I got I got strong memory. But so I saw this theory way before the Kate Middleton disappearance. Probably like in the past fall, I was starting to get TikToks about this theory that William was cheating on Kate with Lady Rose Hanbury, very similar to the Charles and Camilla situation, like family friend,
Liz:Yeah.
Hannah:Close, spent a lot of time together, said a lot of family events, stuff like that. And so when the whole, like, Kate Middleton disappeared thing happened, I, like, kinda thought back to that. I was like, and then people picked up on that, like, oh, we had this theory back then, let's, like, circle back to that. And so I believe it was the Daily Mail released an article, or some really British outlet released an article basically, hard launching her. Being like, who who is lady Rose Hanbury?
Hannah:And And it was basically kind of like an article just about her, how she's like an it girl, like, close with the royal family. And people were like, why are they releasing this one, like, Kate Middleton's nowhere to be found? Literally. Like, why are they, like, kinda gassing her up? Like, are they kinda, like, getting ready for, like, if William becomes king and they got a more spotlights on him?
Hannah:People are like, wait. Like, he's a cheater, but then, like, actually this girl. But, like, he cheated on her with her. Like, it like, she ain't no Camilla, but she kinda is. Because but
Liz:she British model.
Hannah:Yeah. She's a British model, stuff like that. And so a lot of the theories I've seen is that Kate is purposely staying out of the media because she's trying to create a deal with the royal family that she doesn't she either doesn't want William to separate from her so that she can be queen because people are saying that he's gonna separate from her, marry lady Rose Hanbury, and then she'll be queen and Kate's gonna be like, no. Like, this is my title. This is what I've been working for.
Liz:She put in the work.
Hannah:Yeah. She put in the work. She
Liz:like, she makes sense. Yeah. Like, they were early twenties.
Hannah:Popped out the 3 kids. Like, she's like, no. And then another theory I saw is that lady Rose Hanbury is pregnant with William's child, and, like, Kate is very ashamed about it or embarrassed as I say now. So, like, a lot of people have the theory that Kate is purposely, like, orchestrating this. Like, look at how all these people care about me and, like, are against you, but for me, are, like, rallying around me.
Hannah:Like, you don't wanna make this woman queen because they're just gonna, like, back me up. Like, you can't Diana me. They'll notice. They'll notice if I'm gone.
Liz:Oh my gosh.
Hannah:So, like, that's, like, kinda, like, the most realistic one I've seen. I mean, I obviously don't believe that she got a BBL in Turkey. I think she should. Not for the woman do anything. Or that she's the masked singer.
Liz:That would mean I saw that TikTok where it's like, obviously, she's the masked
Hannah:singer. Yeah.
Liz:I hate that show, by the way.
Hannah:Or that she's the, unprecedented ending in Joey's season of The Bachelor.
Liz:Oh, my god. Something that's never happened before.
Hannah:Something that's never happened.
Liz:Kate Middleton is the next
Hannah:best friend. I'd do the same thing if I saw him on my TV and I had any ounce of clout. I
Liz:No. Literally. Yeah. If I had any ounce of clout, maybe this podcast, I would be in Joey's DMs. Like, hello.
Hannah:I'd be like
Liz:Like, those times where marriages don't, like Yeah. They don't work. Anyways.
Hannah:Like, what? 1 month engagement?
Liz:It's fine. Yeah. But no. So that's a crazy theory. I like the idea of, like, public, like, public support or like like a like a public campaign, basically.
Liz:Yeah. I love that. But I don't know though because I just I feel like they would never stop sharing photos of her. I feel like if she were able to, like, be seen in any capacity, they would because I'm thinking about that one picture of, I think it was King Charles, and he's in the car. Oh, that's And
Hannah:he has,
Liz:like, all these, like
Hannah:Is it it's not prince Andrew. That's the Jeffrey Epstein one. Who What? Philip? I think it's Philip.
Hannah:Philip.
Liz:Yes. Prince Philip. And he literally looks like he's on, like, like, his deathbed. I don't think he's active. Still use that picture.
Liz:If they're
Hannah:gonna let that image be released, they could take any photo of Kate in any state.
Liz:Right. Because she's really
Hannah:or at least just like a video. I mean, if she's well enough to go out in public and grocery shop, she's well enough to, like she doesn't even have to feed into the theories by filming a video. Like, hey, guys. I'm alive. She could literally just film a video and be like, thank you guys for the concern about my surgery.
Hannah:Like, something very mature, very not, like, feeding into the theories, but, like, making kinda, like, piping them down a bit. But she hasn't done that.
Liz:And I'm just confused as I
Hannah:but here's the thing. Your theory makes sense
Liz:about the, like, cheating because, seriously, where is William right now?
Hannah:It's very much Gone Girl vibes, which is why I which is why I think I really which is why I think I really like this theory because she's like, you're not just gonna destroy my life, cheat on me, have your mistress, take my spot as queen. Like, no. I'm gonna ruin your life. Because now people are coming out with theories that William's been abusing her, and maybe he went too far. I don't really know how much I believe that one.
Hannah:But, yeah, there's, like, theories that he, like, was, like, domestically abusing her and, like, that's why she can't come out because she's injured, and the royal royal family is like, no. Like, this can't be found out.
Liz:That's really dark.
Hannah:But, like, now people are kinda like, we don't trust William. And it's very much giving Ben Affleck and Gone Girl.
Liz:Right. So But I don't really trust him either.
Hannah:I don't I don't really trust him either.
Liz:Well, because he came from that bloodline, which is
Hannah:so crazy.
Liz:And as much as, like, Harry's, like, he's a liberated man and he's out in LA or whatever, he's also got the crazy because I read about I read, like I didn't read, but I heard many parts of Spare.
Hannah:Very interesting.
Liz:And, like, I mean, I feel I feel so bad for them though because it's like you're born into this like weird limelight. But like Mhmm. If you're if you know the limelight that you're born into, let's not make your wife like a victim to such, like, proud and that's what that's what Harry did. Harry took Meghan right out. Mhmm.
Liz:And unfortunately, I feel like William is like, I don't know, letting Kate get sort of like manipulated any way she wants. I mean, even the fact that there's this many series is crazy.
Hannah:Mhmm. And This is like Another odd thing that was thrown into the mix was Obama paying a visit to Buckingham Palace.
Liz:Did he do that recently? Yes.
Hannah:Oh. Or I I was either What's wrong? It was either to Buckingham Palace or the British prime minister's office. I'm not sure. And I'm just, like But what does that have to do with anything?
Hannah:What does he know? Like What do you know? What is he
Liz:President Obama.
Hannah:What is he mediating? Why is he there? He's not president anymore. He doesn't have to do global affairs
Liz:and No.
Hannah:Stuff like that. So I'm just like, you know, he's tight with the royal family because he was president, stuff like that. So I'm just like
Liz:I feel like he would not be tight with the royal family. I feel like he would be, like, anxious and suspicious of them. Yeah. Like, I'm feeling they would
Hannah:be Maybe he was like, okay. I got the clout to go investigate this myself.
Liz:You know what? And I bet Michelle put him up to it.
Hannah:Oh, she definitely
Liz:Michelle was on Twitter. Like
Hannah:she was on Twitter, like, oh, yeah. Like, you need to go over there right now. Like, you you had to have been president for a reason, sir. Like, get over there.
Liz:For real. Oh my gosh. Wait. That's kinda crazy. I kinda love that though.
Liz:Mhmm. But yeah. No. I just I I don't understand why how she would okay. Right now, you have convinced me part of the reason I wanted you on the podcast because I wanted you to convince me of a certain theory, and I feel like you have convinced me.
Hannah:I mean, I am a d one conspiracy theorist.
Liz:I believe that d one Yapper, d one conspiracy theorist. And you're a mis investigative reporter over here. So
Hannah:If I could file foyas to Buckingham Palace, I would. Maybe I try. I
Liz:mean, Maybe she tries.
Hannah:I has anyone tried probably. Has
Liz:anyone tried to foil them? No. Because they're in the United Kingdom, and not the United States.
Hannah:That was so dumb.
Liz:Oh my gosh. I don't think anyone's
Hannah:They don't have they don't have the freedom there.
Liz:They don't have the freedom of information. They don't have the freedom of information. Wouldn't be
Hannah:able to do that. Someone tried to steal her medical records. Wait. That's crazy. Who worked at a London hospital.
Hannah:I mean, valid. But yeah.
Liz:What do you okay. Here's a question. What do you think of people being very parasocially, like, connected to this?
Hannah:I don't know. Because, like, part of me is, like, am I a part of, like, the UK QAnon by, like
Liz:No. Literally.
Hannah:Am I being, like, so invested in these theories and not trusting the royal family and the British government and the British media? Like, I saw a tweet that was, like, now I know what it feels like to be a conservative because I was told that, like, I do not trust the government, the media, anything.
Liz:And I was trust the British government.
Hannah:I don't I don't trust law. Okay. Well, nothing okay.
Liz:Actually, I know nothing about their actual government, but the royal family is totally separate. They have created this crazy secretive I know you can't foyer for them. I know you can't. I I will stand by that. Like, I Yeah.
Liz:No. I agree. And, like, with the amount of stuff that they've pulled in the past, like, it makes sense to not, like
Hannah:I don't know. They're suspicious. I mean, I don't think these theories are harmful. I mean, I don't see anyone trying to raid Buckingham Palace.
Liz:No.
Hannah:So, I mean, knock on wood. I do think the stealing the medical for the club. That is sacrificing your career. I don't think I would sacrifice my career for this. No.
Hannah:I guess it's a good thing I'm in Michigan, though
Liz:Yeah. And
Hannah:not the UK, because I might try to, like
Liz:Right. You might try and get in.
Hannah:Might try to dig around a little bit. I know that the Royal Palace is hiring a communications specialist
Liz:No way.
Hannah:Which could be tempting.
Liz:Because they fired the the one that made the AI in the truck.
Hannah:So I kinda be like, oh, I'm doing communications for them. Be like, but, you know, can I, like, speak to Kate so I know? Talk to her? Can I just talk to her? Like, to friends.
Hannah:You
Liz:just call Taylor up?
Hannah:Why you just call Taylor up? Like that's, like, another thing is, like, how come, like, none of her friends, none of the doctors or nurses at the hospital, but the people at the farmers market. How come there was it's a open public farmers market. How come no one at the farmers market has come out and been like, oh, yeah. Like, I saw her.
Hannah:It wasn't a body double. Like, it was And no one got a quote from anyone at the farmers market? The workers and the, customers are hired actors because no nobody's come out. And I feel like at, like, at this point and I think the British media released that only 51% of the UK is aware of these theories, which still, that's half. What?
Hannah:Yeah. That's, like, the amount of women. It's like so, like It's not real. Just, like, there's gotta be enough people to know.
Liz:And that's who are looking into
Hannah:it. That's who's looking into
Liz:it. Support women.
Hannah:Exactly. Like, we're, like, where is she?
Liz:My one problem with your theory, like I said, I was trying to make you convince me Yes. Is how you know, if she is really trying to do this, like, public support campaign.
Hannah:Yeah.
Liz:Do you think the royal family would allow her to have her own PR sort of thing?
Hannah:Oh. Well, they did come out with an article today that Kate, during her healing process, has been working on a special project of sorts
Liz:What?
Hannah:Which is kind of giving she's at a farm upstate with other animals.
Liz:Like Yeah. She's working on a special project.
Hannah:Working on a special project.
Liz:Perpetuity. I
Hannah:don't know. I feel like if the theory about William having a mistress is true, I feel like the royal family would be so up and nuts about how to present that to the media and how to save face from that. And, like, on top of Kate kinda being, like, with the whole Gone Girl thing
Liz:Mhmm.
Hannah:I feel like they would be a hot mess, which they are right now. They are. They're all these fake Kate Middletons, the AI image. So I don't know. I really I feel like if she keeps up the Gong Girl Act, this is really what's happening.
Hannah:I think they will drop the hard launching the mistress on Daily Mail and be like, okay. She can be queen. Well, I am Get it together. Right. You're gonna ruin this.
Hannah:But I I've just seen I I saw another thing today that, if Charles dies, like, they're trying to make it so William can't be king because he's too messy. Oh. Why is he messy? I haven't heard any of his
Liz:messages. Boring, actually. Yeah.
Hannah:I feel like he's boring.
Liz:He's Before this, Kate and William have been so boring and so British and normal.
Hannah:Like, I just
Liz:feel like
Hannah:It's like I saw that today. It's just there's just so many pieces to it. And there's such an easy solution for them to squash all this and they haven't, which makes me believe that something fishy is going on.
Liz:Right. Well, and if she was doing this like PR, like, campaign, I feel like they would release, like, negative stuff about Hanbury too.
Hannah:Yeah. Like,
Liz:I feel like I I haven't even heard this name until you you actually brought it up.
Hannah:Yeah. Like, I feel like if she was playing this Gone Girl act, she'd be sitting on the couch with popcorn being like, you need to release an article saying she's like I don't well, actually, I have been seeing online, like, people saying that Lady Rose is like the horse faced version of Oh my god. Kate Middleton. And, like, I saw a tweet that was like, if my husband cheated on me with a horse here, I would disappear too.
Liz:Oh my god.
Hannah:But I don't know. I feel like she would be sitting if she's negotiating with them in the back, I feel like she'd be like, you need to release this hip piece or Yeah. You need to start gassing me up. But
Liz:I feel that. Well, all I know is that I feel like she's a princess. She's been in royal blood forever. She's definitely not like staying out of the limelight. She got chewed on because she's upset.
Hannah:Yeah. Like,
Liz:she's doing it because she's plan she's planning her special project.
Hannah:Yeah. Her special projects.
Liz:That freaks me out.
Hannah:That does That kinda
Liz:gave me chills.
Hannah:Like what?
Liz:That makes me feel like she's dead.
Hannah:That that is kinda like I said, it's like when your, like, parents tell you that, like, your goldfish just went back to the ocean.
Liz:No. They didn't, bro. No. It
Hannah:didn't. It that that that thing's gone. I feel like
Liz:I know that I you can I I feel like you've convinced me? Yeah.
Hannah:But I feel like
Liz:But I also feel like she might be dead.
Hannah:I feel like if she's dead, then her I I don't know her. I feel like her family would have some outcry about it. I just feel like you can't get away with killing people off anymore. People And that's what's wrong with America these days. I know.
Liz:You can't kill people off anymore.
Hannah:Like, I feel like people, you know, there's Twitter. There's always, TikTok with all its, like, no restrictions. I feel like there's just too
Liz:No. You're right.
Hannah:There's too much freedom.
Liz:Well, then if they had to if they had to stage Diana, they would have had to stage Kate.
Hannah:Yeah. And I for sure. I don't know. It's just so complicated. Maybe she is dead, and they're just like, well, how do we present this without people being suspicious?
Hannah:But then they saw that when she wasn't available for a month, how people reckon they're like, crap. Like, if we come out and say she's dead, they're all gonna know. Right.
Liz:And then we covered it up. Yeah. So Oh my gosh. You know what? I could actually see them doing that and then being like, well, we were grieving privately.
Hannah:It very much reminds me of in the episode of Succession when Roman
Liz:I didn't know you watched Succession. I loved it.
Hannah:First, it's done at his desk, and he sees all the emails. Oh my god. Yeah. Coming in, he just, like, shuts it off. That's very much what I feel like the royal family's doing.
Hannah:I like they did not think it would escalate this much, and then they saw, like, all of that. They were like
Liz:Imagine the egg on her face if she's actually just
Hannah:If she's actually just yelling.
Liz:From abdominal surgery. I would
Hannah:just be like, you're crazy and, you know
Liz:I'm okay being crazy.
Hannah:We're journalists. We hold people accountable.
Liz:Well, and it's something to do at the end the day. You know? It's just while I'm in class and I'm bored, I'm like, what's the new Kate Middleton, like, theory? I have a theory that I want to I want to end this episode on my theory.
Hannah:Yes. I wanna hear it.
Liz:Which is that it's all just PR. She's completely fine And ever since, like, Queen Elizabeth died and Harry and Meghan left, they're looking for a new way to drum up, like, you know, attention around them. Means I feel like most people are, like, oh, like, privileged white people from, Europe, like, nothing nothing new there. And so people are just not really caring about royal family anymore. So I feel like she's completely fine, like and they're, like, actively because, like, I feel like the PR, like, communications for the royal family, like, one of the most important families, like, internationally, like, cannot be this bad.
Liz:Cannot be so bad as to they release an AI photo, but the AP is, like, not real. And they send a body double to, like, the farmers market. Like, they cannot be this bad at what they do because they've been doing it for how many years?
Hannah:That's a very solid theory. And, like, your point of, like, not as many people care about the royal family, and we're so true. Because I feel like people do still kinda care, but I feel a lot of people dislike them. Right. Especially after the whole Harry and Meghan thing.
Hannah:Mhmm. Things problematic things coming out about Charles, Charles becoming king. And, also, like, Charles got cancer, and nobody felt bad for him.
Liz:I was about to say, like, I was like, has anyone actually heard from Charles? Because I feel like we all set her up.
Hannah:So it just makes sense because, like, here I am sitting here, like, Kate Middleton's in her Gone Girl era. Like, I would do the same. You're, like, saying she's server. Kind of giving her this, like, maiden complex that's making everybody feel like, wait. She's so relatable.
Liz:She's so mysterious.
Hannah:She's so mysterious. So, like, that does make sense.
Liz:No. I see. Yeah. Okay. Awesome.
Liz:So we convinced each other of our own theories. Yes. Any final thoughts? Any any predictions that'll come within the next coming days? You know what?
Liz:That's that's something we should end on.
Hannah:This might be a little heinous prediction. I'll make it quick. But Trisha Paytas did give birth to her first daughter the day Queen Elizabeth died. She Trisha Paytas is currently pregnant with her child, Elvis.
Liz:It's true. What a cool name. What
Hannah:what are the odds? I don't wanna say it, but what are the odds the day Trisha Paytas' baby comes? There's another royal family.
Liz:Oh. And you know what? Trisha has that power.
Hannah:She does. That if that were to happen, if Elvis were to be welcomed in this world when someone was taken out of it from the royal family, I I think she needs to be investigated.
Liz:I agree. Because she has something going on there.
Hannah:That is not a coincidence.
Liz:She went with Obama over there, and she is poison And as
Hannah:that as that baby cooks, more the royal family goes down.
Liz:Exactly.
Hannah:Charles' health is deteriorating. Kate's nowhere to be found. What if she's having twins?
Liz:Oh my god.
Hannah:Is just gonna take us too.
Liz:Insane. Imagine the out like, the outcry of, like, 2 people in the royal family, like, die or, like, disappear within the same, like, time period. That would be I mean, they have disappeared pretty much. That
Hannah:would be crazy.
Liz:That'd be insane. But Mhmm. Anyways, you know, why do we care? We live in the US. We are not run by some weird monarchy that isn't really a monarchy anymore.
Liz:Yeah. They're just rich people in rich houses. Mhmm. So
Hannah:That that's like their Kardashians.
Liz:You're right. And, honestly, our Kardashians right now. Yeah. Because, honestly, I don't I don't I haven't heard
Hannah:anybody say anything like that. PR scheme.
Liz:Because it's a whole PR scheme. And I think that's what we always come back to announce.
Hannah:It's their Kim k and Ray j.
Liz:For real. Well, that's a great note to end on. So thank you so much for coming on, Hannah. What a good episode, and I'll see you next week to talk about more scandals.