Here Comes Urban Garden Brewhouse!

Join us as we dive into the inspiring journey of Eamoni Collier, founder and owner of Urban Garden Brewhouse, a pioneering Black-owned brewery in Washington DC. Discover how her passion merges ancient brewing traditions with modern craft, creating a space that’s about community, healing, and cultural storytelling.

In the heart of Washington DC, a trailblazing Black woman-owned brewery is finally opening its doors. Urban, innovative, and inspired by ancient traditions, Urban Garden Brewhouse isn't just creating fantastic, floral-infused beers; it's rewriting the story of community, healing, and cultural heritage through craft beverages. If you've ever wondered what happens when terroir meets tradition, this episode is your front-row seat to the journey. 

Founder and owner Eamoni Collier shares her inspiring story, from the highs of celebrating 15 years of brewing to the heart-wrenching lease setbacks, and how resilience, community love, and ancestral inspiration helped turn obstacles into opportunities. Discover how her background working at legendary Shaw neighborhood spots like Right Proper shaped her vision for a space that marries craft beer with soul food, music, and history. It’s a celebration of black-owned businesses, cultural storytelling, and community-building, all wrapped into one vibrant vision.

 

• Urban Garden Brewing’s mission and unique inspiration from ancient brewing traditions
• The significance of community, collaboration, and storytelling in building a new cultural space in DC
• The journey through setbacks and opportunities, including relocating to a historic Shaw neighborhood spot
• The upcoming grand opening of Urban Garden Brewhouse with a full kitchen, bar, and curated beer and food programs
• Collaborations with local breweries and community organizations to foster a vibrant, inclusive craft scene
• The role of music, history, and cultural homage in shaping the vibe of Urban Garden
• The importance of gender and racial representation in the craft beer industry

Eamoni’s journey exemplifies resilience and a deep commitment to community and cultural storytelling through craft beer. Her innovative approach to ingredients and her plans for a vibrant, inclusive space align with a broader movement toward diversity and heritage in the brewing industry.

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Creators and Guests

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Brandy Holder

This southern girl got a late start in the beer world, but with such a bold and intoxicating personality behind the name, booze was destined to be a part of her endeavors.

Host

Jacob Berg

Jake’s beer education began when his dad brought home a 6-pack of Brooklyn Lager in the mid-90s. It was love at first sip.

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Mike Stein

Michael Stein is President of Lost Lagers, Washington, DC’s premier beverage research firm. His historic beers have been served at the Smithsonian’s National Museum of American History and the Polish Ambassador’s residence.

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Richard Fawal

President of DC Beer Media LLC and Publisher of DCBeer.com and The DC Beer Show

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Brandy, what are you drinking this lovely spring evening?

Hi Jake, it actually was a lovely day minus all of the pollen, thanks, male trees.

It's always the men.

uh I just finished a can of Chela from Port City Brewing Company, their most recent
Mexican style lager drop, can drop.

And it is actually, if you didn't know, our beer of the month with the brew shop in
Arlington.

So go snag a can of Chela from Port City.

either from Port City themselves or from the amazing women at the Arlington Brew or Brew
Shop in Arlington.

And then I just opened this beer that was just gifted to us and it's Italian Pilsner um
and it's from Test Heroes and it's called Test from Heroes and Saints.

And I don't know anything about it.

It's 5%.

The can's cool.

That's all I know.

So um we'll report back.

it might be Heroes and Saints from Test Brewing.

yes, then it's that, yes.

That is it.

Thanks, Jake.

yeah, you're welcome.

You'll see a test at Snallygaster, if not before.

Jake, what are you drinking?

Oh, I have here another lager, but it's not Mexican style.

It's Czech style.

It's Pilsner and Stein, you're going to correct me, Kopirovat from Maryland's own and
ex-DC home brewers, Sapwood Cellars.

Lovely, like 12, 13 % 12, 13, Plato, Czech style pills.

As with all Sappho Teller's beers, slightly reduced in gluten through some fancy enzymatic
process.

You wouldn't taste it though.

um Just a lovely beer.

Alright Stein, correct me, what are you drinking?

Jake, yeah, go, Peter, what do you think?

Well, you you fact check Brandy.

So I got to fact check you.

We have to have our editor be edited sometimes.

Brandy, we are twinning, twinning and winning because I had the chela the quinceanera
beer, Port City celebrating 15 years.

But now I've moved on to DC brows brow pills, who is also celebrating their 15th
anniversary.

Cool.

about.

feel like brewing years are like the old tale of dog years.

Like one dog year is seven human years.

One brewery year also has to be seven human years for all the work that goes into it.

Which brings us to our special guest tonight, Eamoni Collier.

Eamoni, thank you for joining us.

What are you drinking?

What have you had in the last week?

Beer, cider, tea, coffee that really knocked your socks off.

Thank you DC Beer for having me.

What if I drank other than tequila?

I think...

Yeah, so oddly enough, I've actually have not had any beer or wine.

I've been kind of just really focused on having water and tequila just trying to get
through the opening.

So yeah.

But I'm looking forward to...

Actually no, that's a lie actually.

I did try a new beer.

um I tried a beer, it was a lager from Lost Generations.

I had it at the Royale.

It was so freaking good.

I had it at like 12 o'clock in the afternoon.

Yeah, it was awesome.

You are now brewery owner, so...

it was?

By chance, sorry.

my gosh, can't remember.

um it was...

yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, the graveyard.

I think it was like the grave shift or the shipyard, but it was a logger.

Yes, that's what it was.

Thank you, Reddy.

It was so good.

That is a great beer.

uh And we are super excited to have you on Eamoni.

It's thrilling for us to welcome you.

uh You're the founder and owner of Urban Garden Brewing.

ah For those of our listeners who've been living under a rock, tell us about Urban Garden
Brewing, announce it, let us know for those not in the know.

Yes, so Urban Garden Brewing, we started as a craft beer brand based in Washington DC, one
of the three black owned uh beer brands in Washington DC and one of the few in the DMV.

um We have had a long journey and we found we found a home for our recipes.

Our beer is

basically kind of like inspired by tea like blends.

So we use a lot of different like herbs and florals and very kind of similar to like
ancient Egypt style brews.

And yeah, so we're opening a new space is called Urban Garden Brew House, not a brew pub,
brew house.

And it's a full kitchen.

So we'll have a full kitchen.

We have an awesome chef.

We have a full bar.

So it's basically going to be

like a uh tavern, pub, but we'll have a really awesome craft beverage program along with
our beer program.

That's exciting.

And tell us a little bit if you can about when you expect to open.

Will everything be online altogether?

The full kitchen, the full bar, uh the beers from the brewery?

Or do you think you'll be rolling out sort of one by one as you soft open hard open the
whole shebang?

That's a great question.

Yeah, so we are going to be doing a phase approach.

We will be opening for like our soft opening next month in May.

So very soon that will kind of look like a limited menu, limited hours as we kind of just
get settled in and then we plan for a full grand opening by June 1st.

So we will have like a friends and family.

type of thing as DNC, they will be invited for the soft opening.

you know, just to give us some opportunity to get some feedback, fix whatever kinks and
stuff, because we know once we open, it's going to be a party every day.

So.

Yeah.

I'd like to know because DC Beer, we've been following you and been friends with you for
now seemingly such a long time and been with you since day one and been so supportive

because I cannot believe that the day has finally come where there is a black-owned
woman-owned brick and mortar brewery in DC.

which is literally you made history, Eamoni, which is really great.

And we've been looking forward to this for quite a while.

And please correct me.

Have you been on the DC Beer Show?

I know we've had you on different stuff, but have you been on the podcast before?

Okay, that's what I thought.

Yeah.

I wanna know because you've gone through so many trials and tribulations and...

ups and downs and you were supposed to open somewhere else.

It just seems like all of that happened for a reason because you are in the former Wright
Proper Shaw, the original location of Wright Proper.

You're kind of, in my mind, continuing what that neighborhood needs and the beauty that
Wright Proper brought to the neighborhood and you're making it your own.

Um, and you have a special history with right proper, right?

Yes.

Yes.

I worked there for eight years prior to starting my own brand.

So I learned from the best and it's really like truly an honor to be able to carry on, you
know, Right Proper's legacy from the people that we met there, the energy, some of the

people that I used to work with back in, you know, earlier on when Right Proper was open
are coming back.

so we go see some familiar faces.

And it just feels good.

It feels good.

And also feels good to have them in my corner.

I feel like, unlike the beer industry of the outside world, I kind of call it, doesn't
have that much camaraderie.

It's more kind of competitive.

So it feels really good for someone to say, hey, here, we're passing the torch to you.

And also, let us know whatever you need from us.

I text them every day.

So it feels good.

That's amazing.

That's great to hear.

I think everyone is obviously on team urban garden brewing.

So we're all here for, we're just as excited as you are.

Thank you, thank you.

Yeah, why not?

Go ahead, go ahead, Brandy.

beers.

Yeah, well, I'm sure you're going to ask the same question.

uh I'm curious, we've had several of your beers that have been brewed at, let's say, City
State, DC Brawl.

um Where else have you brewed out of?

I can't recall all of them right now, but.

So between the three, so smaller batches were with a right proper.

I did my camel light with DC brow and then city state became like my home base for a while
uh prior to us moving into trying to open our own spot.

And I did did so-called labs.

no, go ahead, go ahead, sorry.

Yeah, are you gonna have some of those same like flagship beers that you've already
released before?

Are you gonna bring those back?

Are you gonna start with new recipes?

I guess was my question, long-winded question.

we're absolutely bringing Camelite back.

It would not be Urban Garden without our delicious flagship Camelite.

We will also be bringing back Roses Aren't Dead, because oddly enough, that is my
favorite.

And then we are finally dropping an IPA, because I know everybody has something to say.

But we are dropping an IPA.

I'm really excited.

It's actually inspired by one of my original

homebrew recipes and it's so delicious.

It's called Lotus Flower Bomb and ode to a DC artist, Wale, his song Lotus Flower Bomb.

It's floral, it's the aroma.

So I'm really excited to have that essence captured again for the opening.

So you're known for, you take these classic styles and then you put like your own spin on
them, whether it's chamomile or rose petals, rose hips.

What's the twist with the IPA?

So it is literally a flower balm.

So it features like a bouquet of different florals.

And I'm smiling so much like talking about it because like I'm hoping I can capture the
essence again.

yeah, it's like a bouquet of florals, has like lavender, sadiscus.

I don't want to give away too much.

uh But yeah, it's literally a flower balm.

And then you get that nice like the bitter like, but one of the things

You know, about IPAs, I've never actually been an IPA drinker.

And I've always just told myself, like, I don't drink IPAs.

And then I made an IPA that I actually like.

So I was like, oh, there we go.

So, yeah.

No, it feels very fitting.

uh And I feel like you're in the right place in the right time to tell the story of, as
you mentioned beers from Egypt or the Levant or the ancient, ancient Near East, as the

archaeologists might say, because we so often heard the story of German beer or English
beer, or Czech beer or Mexican style lager.

But there hasn't been as much love for the ancient Egyptian brewers.

And I feel like

with a focus on ingredients that are not that are barley hops, water and yeast, but also
include lavender, hibiscus.

You know, there's many countries in the world where hibiscus is incredibly important from
West Africa to Mexico, know, um Sorrell or high make, uh, whatever the, the, the term is

in the indigenous culture.

But I'm curious where that inspiration for you comes from and how you see that playing out
as you roll out, as you work towards June 1st, how do you want a story tell to roll that

out?

So that's actually a really great question.

think one of the things that mostly inspired me from the ancient, sorry, that region, is
the community, the ritual, the healing, and they use their beverages almost sort of like

elixirs, like medicine.

They had this thing called soup, which was the wart that they would drink.

and realized that it made them feel super elevated.

And they're like, what is this?

The beer was prepped by women hands.

That was a job held by the women.

And so I think that story is basically kind of bringing back that essence of the history
behind beer, bringing back the feminine touch, bringing back the healing, the communion,

the ritual.

um

that I look forward of telling the story.

The design team, I'm working with a hanging angel.

They're basically transforming the space to feel like you're rich auntie, who's like a
spiritual healer's living room.

And you come in and you just feel community, you feel elevated.

So I hope to have that same feeling, share that same feeling with.

everyone.

It's about communities, about coming together.

And we needed more now than ever.

Absolutely.

And tying into that, uh you and your team, and I just want to say hi to Lindsay because I
love Lindsay.

Lindsay's been part of Urban Garden since day one.

And I'm so excited for everybody.

But bringing the community back into your space and having a black-owned beer brand in the
heart of Shaw, I'm curious.

if you are going to, if you already have any plans for collaborating any beers um to drop
on your menu.

Because like, yes, you are, you're for the first time will be making your own in-house
beers, which is so cool.

But because the community has been so supportive of Urban Garden and um everyone loves
you, I'm curious if you have any collaborations that you want to do with local breweries.

that you'd have on tap.

Yes, so absolutely for the opening of for like the soft opening and grand opening, I plan
on having some of our my local brewer friends beer on from the Black Brew movement like

Saltbaker, Black Viking, and then obviously, Right Popper will always have a home on our
taps because they already do all the funky sour stuff.

So yeah, so we'll have a beer from

from them as well, like a rotating sphere.

And then I want to do community collabs.

I definitely want to collab with movies.

I want to save some tap lines for those collabs, but I also want to do a lot with
different organizations in the city, different local artists, brands.

We'll be bringing back all Homage for each of brands.

We're going to be...

You know, just collabing, like bringing beer again to the community beyond just like the
breweries, but you know, the people, the organizations and stuff as well.

Nice.

So speaking of right proper, I heard a rumor that perhaps the right proper fooders are
going to stay at Urban Garden and that maybe as someone who has been a contract brewed

brand, the contractee would become the contractor and perhaps you would be doing some
stuff with the right proper wild sour mixed fermentation program.

Perhaps.

So yeah, so we do have the fooders and we do plan to uh utilize them and again, keep the
right proper funky, funky styles going.

Like, yeah, I mean, I don't really plan, I kind of plan to stay in my lane, especially for
like the first like few months of opening.

So I definitely would love to continue brewing those funky sours for them.

But yeah, we'll get to that part.

Yeah.

That's right.

man, many rivers to cross before we get to that bridge.

Uh, with that, I want to say, Eamoni, when you, um, posted you, uh a little while ago, you
had mentioned be patient DC when one door closes, another door opens.

Can you tell us a little bit about the door closing and the door opening, which we're kind
of hitting on now?

Yes, so I had a really big dream.

We were so close is what I felt in my head.

So yeah, we were originally going for a location in South Dakota Avenue.

It was a very long, very, very long process to even get through the lease signing.

We did a fundraiser.

Thank you so much.

community because that was a stepping stone and it got us to the point where we were going
to begin in construction, we were in design phase.

Unfortunately, few things outside of our control kind of delayed the process and
ultimately we had to terminate the lease.

ah It was very unfortunate on both parties, but I would say they were very understanding,
giving, you know.

everything that was happening in the world at the time that's still happening in the
world.

ah So yeah, I was, I'll be honest, I was broken.

was sad.

My partner, Chef Bae, kept saying like, okay, you can feel sad, but something else is
coming.

I know it whenever, you know, whenever you feel like something is happening and you lost
something.

better always come.

So that one door closing, another door opens.

yeah, I was like, just moping around and then I got a call.

I was like, yeah, everything sucks, I lost the lease.

And Leia was like, okay, sure.

Anyway, I have something for you.

Look at God, look at the universe.

I couldn't believe it.

I was like, wait, this is kind of like too perfect.

Like this is.

This is so perfect, but I had to go through everything that I went through with the first
location I was pursuing to be ready for this because I learned a lot.

It was new territory.

And I think the, knowledge that I gained through that process is what, what allowed me to
be able to do a quick turnaround.

Like we just moved in, we're getting stuff done and we're like, opening in May.

And so I do appreciate all.

all parts, including the challenges and the doors closed.

It probably was a bit better going into basically a turnkey situation.

I know you revamped it and cleaned up and repainted and all that stuff.

I'm not going to lie.

I will be salty because you were going to be like five blocks from me.

I am so happy for you and I'm sure something else will come over here.

uh

Eventually, because we lost Hellbender and Three Stars and Cha-Cha.

We have nothing over here now.

I think each neighborhood is going to take a long time to rebuild, to be honest.

We're all so happy for you.

not to discredit the work, Brandy, we're throwing out turnkey.

Eamoni, I've seen how much work you've put in.

And this is why I say one brewery year is like seven normal job years for the non-small
business owning brewery owners.

uh You've put in so much work not to uh trauma dump or bring up traumas as we look, you
know, hopefully gloriously to the future, but.

Tell us about the work that's gone in.

I know you're grinding like all the time.

Tell us what you've put in and what you've seen come out now that's looking really

Wow, ah yes, this whole process has been one giant blur.

So yeah, we did a complete remodel of painting.

actually wrapping, painting's pretty much done, right?

Like 98%.

So we repainted every walls, we remodeled the bathrooms.

There's a lot of things that, you know, as a restaurant owner, every time we walk in,
there's something that needs to be fixed.

Like we're replacing all of the exit signs and it's a lot of work.

So a lot of, not construction work, but a lot of cosmetics that we're doing.

are replacing the mural.

So we have the big panda.

I know everyone didn't want to see it go, but you know, it'll forever be in our hearts.

that mural's coming down.

We just launched a mural competition for our brick wall.

And uh yeah, we look forward, we got some really awesome submissions.

So I'm kind of excited to see what my design team selects.

We are putting in a kind of sort of an old, my great, so sorry, this place has a lot of
history beyond me just working there.

So my grandfather, Yusef Tate, who is one of the youngest.

uh instrumentalists and the Duke Ellington band.

So they actually used to sneak in in Howard Theatre with a side door.

Well, the space also used to be a pool hall.

And my grandfather used to, you know, sneak in and he'll be there with all of the greats,
all the jazz greats.

So in the area where there's the Duke Ellington mural, we are going to be putting up some
pieces that we have in honor of my late

grandfather.

He also produced the first uh Chuck Brown albums.

he is has a lot of, um he is actually solely responsible for the sound of GoGo.

So we're really excited with that project.

And um we have some really awesome records and everything that's going to be in that area.

So kind of like a cute little mini GoGo museum.

yeah, so it's a lot of lot of cosmetics, a lot of just

getting everything ready for being operational and yeah.

love that music's gonna be such a core element to urban garden space because I know for
any of your beer releases that we've gone to, City State or there was always a DJ, we

always threw down and danced for hours.

So I think it's incredible that you have this beautiful, rich history in your family
connected to the space that you're in.

And it just, feels so perfectly full circle.

And I want ever...

It's hard to explain through a podcast, and I guess our producer Richard would disagree,
the excitement and the love that is like welling up in our hearts and our mouths because

we're thirsty for more urban garden brews, but it's so incredible the story and the
passion behind you because hearing you on a podcast is definitely

different than meeting you in person because you are such a vibrant, energetic human.

uh I just want everyone to come and meet you in person and come to Urban Garden when it
launches and really celebrate this milestone.

So please, everyone, come out.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Yeah, I was going to say like this great news came at a time when it seemed like DC needed
a win.

so like, feel like this, you know, for the community, this is really a win.

Since you brought up Chef Bae, I want to jump into the food that goes with the beer.

yeah, like, what do you all...

Yeah.

What do you all have planned there in terms of the food that goes with the beer, with the
cocktails, with the other drinks?

very excited about our food program.

So we have a awesome menu curated by Chef Eris, Chef Eris Fair.

The food is soul food meets, and I know you can be like, what?

The soul food meets fine dining.

So our chef is Shane and uh Michelin stars, French and Asian fusion and American.

And basically what he wants to do is bring that elevated Michelin like vibe discipline
into our nostalgic soul food, like the things that we love, you know?

So we have like, uh sorry, we have like seasonal whole wings, have burgers, we have the uh
house-made hot pockets, house-made empanadas, but all of the food is...

is something that you're familiar with, but with an extra bit of elevation.

And then I'm really excited to launch our Urban Bowl.

So it's like a build your own bowl that has like protein and like a base.

Yeah, I'm really excited.

So it's called the Urban Bowl.

So yeah, he's doing a really great job with that.

And so that's our Olicoc program.

And then in phase two, we'll be launching a

uh chef-led tasting, so it will be reservation only.

And it's going to be a prefixed menu and it's going to be six courses.

And basically, again, a lot of people feel like they have to like put on like a suit and
spend $1,300 to have a, you know, an experience like that.

We want to bring that experience to the community and elevate, you know, through that.

And we also have a beverage director.

I'm not going to announce his name yet until we're open and ready to go.

But he's going to be taking care of all of our cocktail program.

both Chef Eris and our beverage director will be working closely together to make sure the
food and the beer um

goes well together and then also the essence of our beer.

So the florals, the spices, the quality utilization, so everything is like cohesive.

So yeah, I'm really excited about that.

can't wait.

The last thing I'm going to say as a North Carolinian, could I request for Chef Bae to
have fried okra on the menu, please, and thank you.

Maybe we can talk about it.

fried okra and also there's supposed to be some secret menu of Brussels sprouts.

So talk to right proper about that.

We all know you.

Yeah, guys know.

Yeah, yeah.

So you got to give us a secret code and we'll work you up some.

I'm here for the secret sprouts.

Drop the code and I'm there.

Eamoni, thank you so much for coming on.

I know it's been interesting for a lot of folks and I'm glad that things have come
together and we're all itching to get in there.

It's so incredible because Shaw is having the year of its life, uh seemingly with EB's
opening and now Urban Garden soon.

Shout out to women owned small businesses and

absolutely crushing it and bringing dreams to come true.

Yes, absolutely.

And shout out to EVs too.

You know, since I'm like at work every day and I like to go around the neighborhood and I
had the burger, it was so good.

And I have to go back for the banana split.

So I might do that tomorrow.

But yeah, shout out to EVs.

Every time I walk by, they're packed.

So like I look forward to joining the block and really bringing life, bringing more life
into that street and just turning it up.

It's so good to see two women-owned businesses within a short stretch of one another.

um Of course, Street, Black Broadway, this historic neighborhood, Shaw, right next to it,
just down the road.

It feels so good to know that we're gonna have these strong women-led businesses very soon
open just down the street from one another.

So kudos to you and the team for making lemonade out of lemons, right?

Yes, and thank you so much DC Beer.

No, thank you all so much.

And as you mentioned before, we've been longtime friends and y'all have been following
this journey since Strawberry High.

So I just want to thank you all for everything you do for the DC beer community and
beyond.

And, um you know, y'all are a major, have a major impact on this journey as well and
sharing this story.

So I really appreciate you.

and the community because I wouldn't be here without the community.

Thanks Eamoni.

And thanks for not letting your passion for this sizzle away, fizzle away, you know,
through all this.

it's true, it's truly there and you can tell, right?

Like it's like anyone would have just given up by now.

my loved ones would not let me do it, especially Chef Bae, my mom, my family.

Like, they're like, okay, girl, you can feel sad for a little bit, but you know, it's
happening.

I just think, yeah, I think everyone, my friends, my family, you all, and I'm so happy
that I didn't give up.

And this is just the first to come.

I can't wait to start here and expand.

And yeah, I'm excited.

Very nice, very nice.

Thank you Amanakaliar for the flower bomb.

Blown off our mind.

No Sandra Bull as the kids say, but love potion number nine.

Alright, keeping it on the theme of menu and beer events, we will see many of you our
listeners at Third Hill this upcoming Friday.

And then also, speaking of women, Brandy, what's about to happen for the Women's Brew
Culture Club?

So actually by the time this comes out on Thursday, Amber, our Baltimore branch lead of
Women's Brew Culture Club, she would have already finished the event the night before.

So Amber is hosting the amazing group of Baltimore based women at Bodega and Vino in
Baltimore.

And it's also a woman owned shop and uh Amber's so excited.

It's a...

There's a bunch of RSVPs, so it's gonna be really amazing uh first time meeting for folks
and getting them really into what the Women's Brew Culture Club is about and education and

having a safe space for women and non-binary people.

And May, we are still etching out the details of May.

I will announce that, so stay tuned to our social media.

And yeah, we're gonna go from there.

I'm excited.

I don't know where our maid beer share is going to be yet because I've been busy and I
have maybe urban garden.

We'll talk.

We'll talk about it.

Okay.

All right.

We'll text.

excellent.

But watch our space.

We are at DCB across social media.

A bunch of stuff is about to happen.

ah Our event calendar, cough cough, breweries, bars, restaurants, what have you is
actually back up and running.

Submit those events.

And then I go ahead and hit approve.

And uh if you're in Philadelphia at the Craft Brewers Conference, April 22nd, come say
hello to Mike Stein and I.

We will probably be hanging out with former pod guest, Dave Infante among others.

All right.

But yeah, absolutely.

All right, everybody be well.

Eamoni, thank you so much for being here and sharing your joy with us because we need good
news.

I love you all too, thank you!

Yay, making history.

Herstory!

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