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So I got an email today that my
CrossFit level one cert is due to expire
December.
What do I do?
It's lunchtime!
What's going on, everybody?
Man,
we got a packed house already in the
chat.
We got Lito.
We've got Trent Olive, got Corey,
got Amanda, got Joey, got Kenneth the Lap,
Joseph Ramirez, Meredith saying hi.
What is going on, everybody?
Man,
I am having a hard time getting moving
today.
woke up to four to five inches of
snow this morning everything is covered
man it's nice to not have to go
into an office and work from home on
days like this didn't have to brush off
a car didn't have to heat up the
car just had to roll out of bed
turn on my computer and get to work
man so nice so nice
uh,
Joey Perez saying it's Packers week time
to bear down.
You know, it, um, man, I am,
this is the first time Packers week in
a long time has mattered.
And the reason it matters is because the
bears are holding up their end of the
bargain.
And, uh,
I am so stoked.
We've got the late afternoon window on
Sunday.
So excited about that.
It's the game of the week.
Bears-Packers in Lambeau.
Um,
of course I'm nervous as a bears fan.
I can never just depend on them to
do what they're supposed to do.
Um,
even though we're having a great season,
I am just really freaking nervous about
this week.
Um, so anyway, got that going on.
Uh, Mike DeVito says all rain by me.
I would have preferred snow.
Um,
WFH is the dream.
I do not know what WFH is.
Sometimes I feel like I'm so out of
it.
Mike DeVito says, F the Bears, go Birds.
If you're talking about the Eagles, man,
I think we made our statement.
So,
Why would I tune into a Seve or
Hiller YouTube?
It's fitness ads.
The Clydesdale lunch is false fingernails,
eyelashes, or perfume.
I don't know, man.
I don't know.
Work from home.
Work from home.
Yes.
Work from home is the dream.
Yes, yes, yes.
eric mackie says all right all right all
right uh twelve inches of snow last
weekend uh jody up in new york area
uh no snow just rain here on the
east coast connecticut connecticut not new
york i'm sorry uh um mike devito haha
i am i will give that to you
we suck
Yeah, I don't know if you suck.
I mean,
the defense is supposed to be great.
I just,
I think for the first time in a
long time,
the Bears have a great offensive line.
So, what is up, Cat?
I miss you.
I miss you.
Joseph Ramirez says, DC is getting rain,
maybe snow later tonight.
Yeah.
I got something to talk to you about,
Joseph, but real quick, last day,
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Kat says, more pods coming, newly single.
Okay.
Everybody is saying no.
Ken Walters,
Minnesota all temps for this week are
twelve to twenty-seven,
overnight three to eight.
Eric Mackey made his order.
He got forty percent off.
Hopefully used to code jazzy and got free
shipping on that.
Do you do OK?
It's going to be true frozen tundra
conditions in Green Bay, too.
So that run game is going to eat
and the secondary is going to feast on
loves a fifty fifty balls.
Man.
I hope so.
I don't want to get in the weeds
on the bears.
I mean,
that's not technically what we talk about
here, but.
Oh, my gosh.
Wright is just killing it at corner.
Six foot four.
He is the only corner I've seen lately
who can high point a ball like a
wide receiver.
And the catches he is making to make
interceptions is just crazy.
Just crazy.
So anyway,
I did want to quickly talk about Penn
State and Joseph Ramirez is on here.
So I want to get his quick take.
It's rumored that Penn State is going to
sign the coach from BYU.
He is not signing a deal until he's
done with the Big Twelve Championship.
That is not the big splash I was
hoping for as a Penn State fan.
I was really hoping for Brian Dayball.
I know he didn't do great with the
Giants,
but he was a Nick Saban disciple as
an offense coordinator with Alabama.
He did great as an offensive coordinator
with the Buffalo Bills.
I was hoping that's who Penn State would
go after.
Nick Saban said he was a great recruiter,
and instead we're going after this BYU
coach that I don't know, honestly,
a lot about,
and it just doesn't seem like the big
splash that we need at Penn State.
Did I see the new Ben Johnson Chicago
CHGO shirts?
I did.
I did.
I was watching that yesterday when they
announced it.
It's really cool.
Bears fans finally can talk smack.
That is true.
It has been a while.
I don't want Brian Kelly ever at Penn
State.
Ken Walters,
anyone can do great with Josh Allen.
Josh Allen came into the league.
He was not great, dude.
He was a turnover machine.
He was not good.
He had to be developed.
And Brian Dayball was the one who
developed him.
So,
You're not going to learn enough at
Wyoming to come into the NFL and just
be great.
Dayball deserves some credit for that.
Ramirez says it could be worse.
They could have gone after Lane Kiffin.
I would have loved Lane Kiffin.
Lane Kiffin wins.
He is a great coach.
He's quirky.
He's weird.
Fine.
He wins.
uh i i don't want him either um
andrew i'm good all right so the big
thing for the day is i got my
email today that my crossfit level one is
due to expire at the end of the
month this is so i've had it for
ten years i got my first crossfit level
one in person in twenty fifteen
in July, June or July of twenty fifteen.
And.
And I and I did it in person
at Rogue here in Columbus,
had that coached,
went through a coaching mentorship,
coached for a few years and became a
judge because of it.
A lot of things like that.
Then in twenty twenty,
it was due to expire.
I was scheduled to do it a level
two in Cookville at Mayhem because of
covid.
It kept getting canceled and canceled.
And during that time,
they actually extended my level one for
six months.
So it got to a point where they
weren't going to extend it anymore.
I couldn't get anything scheduled.
So I just did the online L one
to get it and keep it in good
standing.
So I did the online L one in
and then it went through the end of
this year, five more years.
And so now it is expiring at the
end of the month and I don't really
know what to do.
And the reason I don't know what to
do,
and I'm asking you what you guys think
is I, I don't coach anymore.
I don't judge anymore.
there's no requirement to have an L one
to be a podcaster or to be a
media member.
And so my, my thought is like,
I've done it twice.
I have the knowledge from doing the L
one.
Why,
why would I need to move on and
get, so Claire saying,
go get your level two,
but I'm not coaching like,
and it's really hands-on coaching, right?
And I don't think I'm ever going to
go back to coaching.
So I don't know.
I mean, it's a thousand dollars, isn't it,
still?
I don't know.
It's such a huge investment.
I don't make a ton of money with
what I do, and I don't know.
Um, there's,
there's really mixed reaction here.
I understand if you're not coaching or
judging, I don't see a need for it.
It's great to get it once for the
knowledge.
If you're not using it for coaching, um,
you have an FOG cred,
you don't need it.
Wow.
Thank you.
Um,
Claire says great experience makes you
even better media.
I've done the L one twice.
I've done it both ways that it's
available.
I have that experience of going through
that.
but my understanding is the L two is
more like coaching cues and, um, and,
and how to do like tactile coaching cues,
how to do verbal tactile,
verbal coaching cues, um,
things of that nature.
I don't know what that gives me.
Um, I just,
I just don't Meredith asks if I could
do another online extension,
I could do the online version,
but now it only extends you for three
years.
Um,
Back when I did it in twenty twenty,
it was a five year extension.
Now the online version only gives you
three.
So you're investing in a three year
credential instead of a five year.
Joseph,
I'm finally getting my one at the end
of February.
I highly recommend the one.
I mean,
if you're if you've never done it,
I think everybody should do it.
It's such a great learning experience.
Why?
Because you can,
and who knows what retirement life will
be.
I mean,
I could always go back and get,
I could get another L one at some
point if I want to go back to,
uh, um,
the call requests that you please stop
asking questions and just support CrossFit
by giving them your money.
we the collective had decided yeah
expensive if you're not using it if I
was coaching like I would jump back in
at the chance or or even if I
was still going to judge for a while
Lita says I just let it expire I
agree with Andrew
Cat,
I'm afraid I'll have to let my L-three
go.
Man,
isn't that just continuing education
credits?
If I was up as far as an
L-three,
I'm just not sure I would let that
go.
Because that's a whole,
like I'm at the first rung of the
ladder.
If I need to go back and get
the first rung again,
I can go back and do that.
Cat,
you're at the third rung of the ladder.
I don't know if I would go back
and start over on that.
Corey says, once he gets his L-two,
that's as far as he's going.
Joey Perez,
only reason at this point would be to
make content out of it,
interview other folks, getting it,
et cetera.
Yeah.
Andrew said,
don't get the L-two unless you're actively
coaching.
Uh, Claire,
I did my L two is zero coaching
experience and no hopes to coach.
That being said,
I was making great money and I hear
your financial consideration.
Yeah.
I mean, that's what I, Amanda,
that's exactly what I heard.
It is.
It's coaching cues and class management
and I'm not coaching a class anymore.
I mean, there's days I miss it,
but I really liked the media side so
much better.
Wayne Short, take the thousand dollars,
put it towards your business,
a wider reach than you could ever get
with coaching locally.
Yeah.
I think that's where I'm leaning.
Oh,
so the level three is about a thousand
dollars worth of continuing education
credits and seven hundred and fifty hours
of CrossFit coaching.
Whoo.
I mean,
that's pretty much full time coaching or
full part time coaching.
Mike DeVito,
the level two will deepen your
understanding, but yes,
it would be more geared towards coaching.
Just do the online one and reaccess in
a year, reassess in a year or two.
Linda, it's a no for me, dog.
Seeing that's an L-I,
you can let it go and always go
back.
If it was an L-II expiring,
then it's a bigger question.
I think you're right, Amanda.
I think because I can always go back
and get the L-I again at any point
in time if I feel the need to
go back to coaching or any of those
kinds of things.
I think that's where I'm leaning.
the funny thing is you know there were
these we had that judging incident over
the summer where someone's l-one expired
and they weren't officially an official
judge and it almost cost people at mayhem
some some spots to the games um the
amount of times that crossfit has emailed
me telling me that my l-one is expiring
was a lot
I mean, it was a lot.
I know it's expiring.
Unless I'm completely ignoring my emails,
I know that it is expiring.
And I want to make that clear from
what happened this year when they said,
well, I just didn't know.
I just didn't know.
There's no way you couldn't know if you're
paying attention to your emails at all.
Claire says the experience is worth it.
If you have the means in that season
of life,
it's so special to experience CrossFit
training.
I, I really enjoy the classes.
I enjoy going and doing them.
But I am in a weird season of
life.
Like my daughter has just left home,
but she's really just starting out and
she's needed more support than,
than I think my wife and I really
anticipated.
And so I,
that part of our lives is when you
think it's over, it's just,
it feels like it's just beginning all over
again in the support for her and trying
to get her feet on the ground and
really get into it.
She has a great job.
She's doing great things.
It's just,
there's so many startup costs with a big
move and a, and a big job.
Um,
I think that just hit me.
And the thousand dollars right now just
seems like a stretch.
Like people that let their vehicle
registrations expire and don't know.
Yeah.
I actually have a friend who's let it
happen a couple of times, but in Ohio,
if you lease a car,
Your expiration date is the date of the
lease, not your birthday.
If you own a car,
your registration date is based on your
birthday.
And so that,
that can get a little bit confusing.
So that is the one like exception I'll
give to that.
The other thing I want to talk about
before I have to get back to work
is if you guys did not see Hiller's
video yesterday on his version of the WFP
season,
I don't know if there's enough flowers for
me to throw at what Hiller came up
with.
I don't want to just be gaga and
be like a sycophant about the whole thing,
but I truly am.
What he came up with,
looking at it from the fact of fun
to watch, get outside eyeballs on it,
and come up with something that is so
well-rounded over a season,
and to include all of that,
was nothing short of genius.
Nothing short of genius.
I agree, Joseph.
I agree.
it Hiller's borderline genius to bring in,
to have the concept,
to bring in athletes from other sports and
have like a lane,
for them to go head to head with
the CrossFit athletes,
just to get eyeballs on,
to see how like this NFL person would
compete against these people or how the
CrossFitters would fare against an NFL
athlete.
Like that is so cool to me.
To take aspects from other sports and plop
them into the middle of this programming
for across three events was in my I've
been in CrossFit since twenty eleven.
I have been a super fan of the
sport ever since.
And I cannot believe that nobody has come
close to what Hiller has done in what
he said was an hour.
I am just completely blown away.
to to first of all go into the
fact with hey we're the wfp and this
is this is the piece that's probably
missing in real life is we're going to
partner with crossfit enough that we can
use the crossfit name we can make homages
to the crossfit world by starting off with
murph and by using the name crossfit that
is probably the one bridge
that isn't there to make it a reality.
But then to have a complete
gymnastics-style event with an NFL player
doing one of the events with the people
is brilliant.
And to have max gymnastics as a part
of that
And everybody knows that going in.
And then to have the power output event
second with a straight powerlifting meet
that people can compare to what is
happening in the real world of
powerlifting to what the CrossFitters are
doing.
And then to have this, and in that,
to do the Liver King,
what the hell is the name of that
workout?
Um, the,
where you do the sled drag with the
kettlebells and the, and the,
and the weight vest, the barbarian.
Thank you, Kenneth.
And to do the barbarian and then invite
the liver King,
which people will watch just to see the
train wreck that may happen or may not
happen.
Right.
It,
it's going to bring eyeballs to the show.
and you could bring power lifters into to
show what is possible with a power lifter
and then how the CrossFitters attack the
same thing.
And then to go to the last event
and having like an NFL combine piece with
the,
the max bench press at two twenty five
to have,
I can't remember the other pieces of it,
like the four meter run and the, um,
I think there was some kind of jump
to that just for pure athleticism and all
of that to be included in that.
And then along the way,
my favorite apparatus to ever be at the
CrossFit Games is the snail.
And to incorporate the snail into an event
would be so much fun.
Yeah, it was max vertical.
yeah so it's like an nfl comp by
max vertical four meter run and mac max
bench press with the all measurables that
you can put up against other athletes in
other sports to see where the crossfitters
kind of live and you could have some
of those athletes come in and do those
events just to show what the like tip
of the spear that specialize in those
areas can do
To me,
I hope and pray that people are watching
what Hiller put out and are looking at
it going,
that is ingenious and that needs to be
done at some point.
Someone needs to take that template and
run with it.
Completely run with it.
Oh,
and the High Rocks event in the middle
of the third event.
And
showing what high rocks can be done with
standards and maybe have some of the best
high rocks people come in and run in
lane eleven against the CrossFitters.
Instead of like saying, hey,
we reject you high rocks.
Hey, come on in.
Let's see what you can do against our
athletes.
We're going to set up the course just
like you do.
We're going to do all the same things
that you do.
Let's see how you fare against us.
That was the, I mean,
I really like when he goes and spends
time with an athlete.
I think that he does a better job
of that than anybody else in the space.
But other than that,
this has been the best piece of work
that I think he's put out all year.
all year for sure.
And the thought behind it,
the reasoning behind it was all the
different aspects that need to be
considered.
How do we get eyeballs on this?
How do we get spectators to show up?
How do we get interest?
How do we make it go viral?
And,
and that he's even thinking about how
things could be clipped to make reels
before the event even happens.
Yeah.
Like those like we talk about Dave Castro
and the way that he looks at an
event and he always tells the story really
well for people at the event or maybe
even people at or watching on a stream.
But I don't think Castro has ever gone
to the point of like,
how can this become a viral clip?
What part of this can we clip off
to put out onto social media to get
people to come watch?
That's a step further than anybody else
has ever gone in the thought process of
creating an event.
Honest to God,
if I'm Will Morad and I'm Jackson Terry,
I am hiring Hiller tomorrow to put
together this template and to make this
thing next year's event.
Immediately.
Immediately.
It'll never happen.
It'll never happen because egos will get
in the way and people think they can
do things better.
But when you look at this,
at the face value, it is the most,
it is the only event that I would
say could compete with the CrossFit Games.
The only thing it doesn't have is the
glory that the CrossFit Games has
established.
The meaning behind it,
the meaning of the win.
But the CrossFit Games can be that.
They can be find the fittest.
This can be let's find the most
entertaining tour event that we can put
together.
Did Hiller put out a Choi video,
Shung Young Choi video?
He did not.
He did a Korean video and she was
in it.
I think this Chung Young Choi is still
coming.
Adding Tyson event was cool also.
Yeah.
I didn't want to say specifically Tyson
because I'm a Bears fan.
I didn't want to say it.
Think like I was leaning.
And that event has been done and it's
been battle tested and proven that it can
be done with high level CrossFitters going
against an NFL athlete.
It could be any NFL athlete.
The NFL is so big.
Getting any of them to come be in
lane.
Eleven is awesome.
And if it has to be Tyson Bajan,
it can be Tyson Bajan.
That's cool.
Mr.
B studied this and talked about the
science of going viral.
That's what most storytellers do.
They plan and envision.
They normally have vision boards.
I think that's what I'm saying, Jonathan,
is that Killer is thinking about all of
the different aspects around this.
with a vision that hasn't been done
before.
And he wrote it all out on a
whiteboard.
And I think that's where it kind of
all came is that he put it down
in writing.
He looked at it as a whole.
And I think that's where the WFP probably
made a misstep is they didn't look at
their season as a whole.
They were building it as it went.
And I don't think they had all three
tour stops figured out before the season
started.
And if you're having a tour stop league
with a beginning and an end that is
season long,
you need to create that as one massive
creation.
And that's what Hiller did.
He didn't look at it as, hey,
here's tour stop one.
We'll get that done.
We'll get it out of the way.
Now we'll build tour stop two looking back
at tour stop one.
Get that done.
Now we'll build tour stop three looking
back at the previous two.
What Hiller did is throw it all up
on one whiteboard from start to finish and
said, this is our season,
this is how we build it,
and looking at it all in its entirety
throughout the build instead of piece by
piece.
If you have not seen the video,
you need to go see it.
And I'm telling you,
somebody needs to jump on this and make
it an event.
It gave me hope with the correct thought
process.
It's a way to bring eyeballs to the
sport that I love.
It's a way to bring eyeballs to this
methodology that I love.
And done in the right way,
it could be hugely successful.
train all of that is that's how the
programming should have been done.
One hundred percent, without a doubt,
exactly the way it should have been done.
They don't have to hire Hiller.
He already gave them the blueprint.
But they'd be missing out on that vision
of how to make this thing viral.
That's the that's the peace grant.
That's where like they instead of half
assing it,
hire the man and let him show you
where it can be clipped.
Let him use the video footage to put
clips out.
In the video himself,
he showed how before his visit to Korea
with Sean Young Choi,
she had less than I think it was
like forty thousand subscribers on
Instagram.
And now she's over one hundred thousand.
Like he knows what he's talking about when
it comes to getting viral views.
It's not just the template.
It's not just the workouts.
It's all the pieces combined that you have
to have a vision for as you're going
through the process.
Eric Mackey,
I'd like to see get with the programming
or JR review of Hiller's programmed
events.
I would love for them to grab this
and do like a get with the programming
or a shut up and scribble episode going
through this and getting their thoughts on
what they think of Hiller's event.
There's no way they're going to listen to
him.
I don't think they will either.
I think their ego will get involved and
I don't think they'll listen to him,
but it doesn't mean they should,
shouldn't.
I wanted a forty yard dash.
I think he went four hundred meter run
because.
Four hundred meter run is more fitness
based.
Forty yard dashes.
It's I don't know.
It's more of a. I don't know.
It's hard to.
I just think the four hundred meter run
is a better test.
than the forty forty yard dash.
So I think that's I get why he
did that.
And if you slip it to start,
you're screwed.
It's just there's no room wiggle room at
all for error in a forty yard dash.
None.
And I think that the forty-yard dash is
harder on the body as a whole.
If you are not acclimated to sprinting,
you can pull hamstrings,
you can tear Achilles,
you can do a lot of things in
a sprint that would not happen in a
four hundred meter run.
I just don't think CrossFit bodies are
acclimated to sprinting so again if you
haven't seen that please go check it out
and i would love to see some people
um uh dissect it like i get with
the programming or shut up and scribble
and hear their thoughts on it too because
i was totally geeking out yesterday uh
watching that video um
and just want someone to take it on
and, uh, make it happen.
So,
and it's the best suggestion I've heard,
uh, since my reality show take,
this may be better than the reality show.
I'm going to finish up with this.
Um, as you guys all know,
if you've been listening to the show,
I'm a big Taylor Sheridan fan,
been watching land man this season.
that show has the best cast on TV
today um if that doesn't win the Emmy
this year I'm gonna be stunned there's a
point in this season and I'm gonna try
to do this without doing spoilers but
there's a point in this season where
Tommy,
who is played by Billy Bob Thornton,
and his son Cooper are driving off to
Odessa, Texas, I believe,
because there's a death in the family.
And they're talking about how Tommy was
giving advice to his son about not getting
into a cycle of violence inside the home.
Because he had lived through that himself.
And his son says to him, well,
you did that, dad.
And his dad responds that he didn't break
the cycle.
He avoided it.
And in his mind,
he didn't feel like he was a good
father.
his son basically tells him your best was
good enough for me, dad.
And it's this moment in this dialogue that
is like through the roof.
Good.
If you're not watching lay a man, it's,
it's so good.
And that scene is, is so powerful.
And, and then in the last episode there,
let the end of last season,
Andy Garcia comes into, um, into the, the,
television show as a drug kingpin who is
running this massive drug empire.
Turns out he's doing more than that.
He's investing in the oil industry in
certain ways.
He's investing in other things.
And there comes this time where at the
end of last season,
he saves Tommy or Billy Bob Thornton's
life.
And he says that they're going to be
friends.
And Billy Bob rejects this immediately.
Well, now this season,
they're becoming more intertwined because
of some scenarios.
And they're at a club,
and the widow of Jon Hamm,
who owns the oil company now,
Tommy's wife, played by Allie Lauder,
and Andy Garcia's wife are hanging out in
this club, and Andy and Tommy.
And the wives are getting together so
well.
And the whole time,
there's this stare down between Billy Bob
Thornton and Andy Garcia.
And Demi Moore plays the widow,
by the way.
So you have Demi Moore, Andy Garcia,
Billy Bob Thornton,
Allie Lauder in this club.
And the stare downs between Garcia and
Billy Bob are like,
there's this communication going on
between the two of them without saying
anything while their wives are over here
talking about a completely different
subject.
And it is...
It is completely off the chain good.
It got me, as I would say, jazzed.
The actors in this show are so damn
good.
When you can speak dialogue without saying
a word, it's so worth watching.
Um, highly recommend it.
It's on Paramount plus.
If you're not watching that show,
you should be.
Um, and I think season one was great.
I think season two is off to a
start.
That's even better than season one.
So that is it.
That is it for today.
I got to get back to work,
but wanted to talk about those things.
Eric Mackey,
I'm not sure you have many people's
attention anymore,
but I love the show and live the
movie streaming show.
Love the movie streaming shows.
This is where we're at, Mackey.
Eric Mackey,
we are in a period where there's not
a lot of CrossFit stuff to talk about.
Um, that's why we're talking football.
So I were talking entertainment and I I've
kind of promised it is that's what this
show is going to be.
We're I'm doing a daily show for forty
five minutes.
It's whatever's on my mind.
And I try to sprinkle in as much
CrossFit as I can.
But man,
it is it is a dead time.
And I don't want to talk about the
negativity of the WFP every single day.
It gets on my own nerves.
And so I'm just,
these are things that are happening in my
life that I want to talk about.
And I think they're really, really good.
And I know you're not saying anything to
be critical.
I'm just telling you,
that's where my heart is.
And that's where I come from is, gosh,
there's only so much we can talk about
CrossFit.
And right now, it's just a dead,
dead time.
Jonathan Ortega says, it's your show.
Talk about everything.
We're here.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, yeah.
So that's where we're at.
So I recapped Hiller's video.
Please go check that out.
If you are interested in how an event
can be created, thinking so broadly,
it is an epic video for that.
If you want to just lay back and
detox from the real world, watch Landman.
It's awesome.
Penn State, I think, is making a mistake,
and it's Packers week.
So that's what we did today.
That's what we're going to talk about.
And now I've got to get back to
work because I've got so many damn
meetings today.
God, I hate meetings.
I hate them.
But I've got two more this afternoon.
I had two before this.
And there we are.
With that, guys,
I'm going to get back to work.
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