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A thirst quenching podcast for the girls, gays, theys, & astrology baes where we talk about anything & EVERYTHING through an astrological lens.
Hi, guys. Welcome to another episode of Tea from the Galaxy, a thirst quenching podcast for the girls, gays, theys, and astrology baes where we talk about anything and everything through an astrological lens. Happy Capricorn season. Today's episode, I had to bring on the Capricorn queen herself, Sarah Ashley Murray, aka the sensible astrologer on TikTok and Instagram. She has a Capricorn sun and rising.
Serena:I have a Capricorn moon. This was the perfect fusion episode for Capricorn season. We talk all things Capricorn, what it feels like to be a Capricorn, the Capricorn upbringing. We talk about things that are coming up for the fellow Capricorn and Capricorn risings. And we talk about the Pluto ingress when Pluto was in Capricorn from 2008 to the 2024.
Serena:You talk a little bit about our experiences, but also as a little kind of forewarning for anyone who has this prominent Aquarius and Leo placements, especially sun, moon or rising, who are about to go through this Pluto ingress while Pluto is in Aquarius or who is currently going through it right now. We kind of give a little bit of advice on how to handle this ingress being that we have lived through the Pluto in Capricorn and we have survived and we're stronger than ever. So I really enjoyed recording this episode. I really think you guys will enjoy it. And, yeah, let's just jump right into it.
Serena:I started a new series accidentally, actually. And I was like, you know what? I wanna do this every season. So I started it during Scorpio season when I brought on Lanaoa, aka the Astro Mom, the Scorpio rising queen. I brought her on during Scorpio season to talk about all things Scorpio.
Serena:And I was like, you know what? I want to do this every season. Thinking like, who should I bring on for Capricorn season? I put out a post. Lanaoa then reached out to me.
Serena:She sent me your Instagram. And I was like, no way. We are TikTok mutuals. Like this is A couple questions that I like asking everyone on every guest I have on the podcast. You can answer all of them or none of them.
Serena:It's just a little background. So whoever's listening to can get a little knowledge about who you are. I like to ask your big three, your age, your pronouns and then your sexual identity.
Sara:Okay, awesome. I'm down for all of that. So my big three, I'm a Capricorn rising, Capricorn sun, Cancer moon. And there's really not many of us who are Capricorn rising, Capricorn sun and Cancer moon. Like even when I looked, you know, like what celebrity because everyone wants to know that like what celebrities match your astrology.
Sara:There's not many of us out there. I identify as she, her. And if you wanna call me they, that's fine too. I don't care. And then I would say the sexuality one, that's deep because, you know, with the older I get, I'm 42, by the way, I'll be 42 January 17.
Sara:Still technically 41. I get to know myself more. I'm like, I'm not as straight as I thought I was, you know, and it's just, yeah, you kind of get to know yourself more and also you untangle yourself from the culture, you know, and all these projections and how we, how were raised in, especially, you know, because I'm an elder millennial younger Gen Xer, it was like, everyone's in a box, right? Like either, you know, you're gay or you're straight or you're bisexual, but it's more than that. As someone who has studied sexual psychology, I have an undergrad in psychology as well.
Sara:You know, we're all on a spectrum of sexuality. So I would say that I identify mostly as heterosexual, but I would say I'm also demisexual as well. And I would say I'm more fluid than most people.
Serena:Love Yeah. No. That a 100% makes sense. Reason that I asked that question, the sexual identity part is because and only if people feel comfortable asking it, but Yeah. A big chunk of this podcast that I dedicate this podcast to is talking about queer astrology.
Serena:Yeah. Capricorn season. Well, first things first, let's get a little background about who you are as an astrologer. Why or how you got into astrology? What was that journey like?
Sara:Yeah. So my journey into astrology is peculiar, I would say. So when I was younger, like really, really little, I was like six or seven years old and my mom gave me a birthday book and I was like, Oh, Capricorn. This sounds like me, mature, responsible because that's what all my teachers and all everyone around me, all the adults would say Sarah is very mature. She's very responsible.
Sara:Like, okay, I can relate to this. Yeah. So then as I got older, I would just like kind of, you know, chill out in Barnes and Noble by the spirituality section. And I just wanted to know more. I wanted to kind of uncover or connect the dots.
Sara:And I was always very interested in why people did what they did. So astrology is essentially a part of psychology. I mean, like, think about, like, Carl Jung and people like that. They also study that in conjunction with psychology. And then around, I would say high school, I got this really bad CD ROM from the clearance section of Best Buy.
Sara:It was like $10 and it taught me how to read charts. It was very cool. It was ahead of its time. Was interactive. And then I started to learn about the houses and angles and aspects.
Sara:Yeah, it was awesome. I wish I still had that CD ROM. I don't know how I would like burn it and upload it, you know, onto a system like this because I don't know anything about that. But that was awesome. And then I started doing some just like chart readings for friends and things of that nature.
Sara:And I always used it just like for my own purposes, but then 2020 happened. I was working as a special ed teacher for many, many years, but I kind of already felt the nudge to leave even before the pandemic happened. But that just kind of did it in because they couldn't be with those kids. And those kids need a lot of one on one in person attention. You really can't do it justice when you're over Zoom or whatever.
Sara:So I said, okay, you know, I'm gonna try this out on my best friends. Like, you really should just just give it a try. And I I'm a Scorpio mid heaven, even though I'm a Capricorn rising. So I was just like, I don't know if I want to be on social media, that kind of thing. But it just it just happened.
Sara:It worked out. I would say it was divine timing. That's when Pluto was right on my son too. So that's when my life, yeah, my life completely changed. The person that I was completely changed revocably.
Sara:And I'm very happy about it. So that's the cliff notes version.
Serena:I love that. It's so interesting because, we have a little bit of a similar story and I have I'm a Cancer Sun Capricorn Moon. Okay.
Sara:Got it flipped.
Serena:Yeah. Yeah. 2019 to 2021, I worked as in Special Ed too and I was at RBT. So but because of 2020, it kind of sparked something in me where I was like, yeah, I can't do this or at least right now. 2021 is when I started my angelfish astrology and I really was like it became more of like a hobby and into like, okay, this is something that I want to help people with and teach people and stuff like that.
Sara:Yeah. Became your everything.
Serena:Yeah.
Sara:So yeah. We're so lucky and blessed that we're able to monetize what we love.
Serena:Yeah. For sure. So what degrees is your sun at?
Sara:26 degrees. It's in my first house. Yeah.
Serena:Yeah. Like a Mars, was it a Mars Saturn conjunction during the pandemic when COVID started? It was
Sara:I think it
Serena:was. Around Oh that my god. So that was like right on top of your son. That's crazy. Yeah.
Sara:Yeah. Yeah. Everything was right there. It was everything was right there and I already felt it. I already knew something was coming but I couldn't quite figure it out.
Sara:And I didn't know. I thought it was going to go into writing, which I still am doing and we'll see what happens with that. But that's my Gemini North node, but, and that was during my nodal return too at 36. So it's like every, thing at once. So if, like, you're listening to this and you're going through nodal return and everything, it just it does push you into a very different direction.
Serena:Yeah. You were you were destined to flip. Yeah. Being a Capricorn, and a Capricorn, not even just sun, but a Capricorn sun and rising. What was that upbringing like for you?
Serena:Like what what is the experience of being a Capricorn from early age to as you grow older?
Sara:Yeah, I would say as a child, it wasn't easy at all. Yes, people have had much worse childhoods. So I'm not saying I had the worst upbringing in the world. There were a lot of amazing parts of my childhood and definitely a lot of blessings with that. But, know, Capricorns are notoriously independent, right?
Sara:We're ruled by Saturn. And I had to do a lot on my own. And it I I never felt like my parents were intentionally neglecting me. It wasn't like that. It's just that they had other things to do that were a bigger priority.
Sara:I grew up with a brother who had a chronic illness, so he needed a lot of attention. He's he's doing okay right now. Thank goodness. Also, just my my Saturn's also in my tenth house in Scorpio. So I feel like a lot of my upbringing was kind of like it sounds so weird, but I think other Capricorns can relate to this.
Sara:And a lot of ways, I felt like I was my mother's husband a lot of ways because my dad was away a lot at work. I became her confidant in many ways. And she would tell me a lot of adult things that were going on that a lot of children I don't think could have handled. So growing up as a Capricorn, I always did feel more like an adult than a child. And it's interesting because when I finally became independent and everything like that, and I did have to grow up very fast, pay my own way, that kind of thing.
Sara:I started to feel younger. I started to feel more playful Like, okay, now I could finally relax because I don't have to hold up everything for everyone else, which is strange. So when you hear Capricorn say, feel like I'm aging backwards, that kind of thing. It's not necessarily that we look like we're, you know, Benjamin Button, like that kind of reverse aging. But in here, we feel like we could finally just let go and we can make mistakes and things of that nature because we can count on ourselves now because we're making that money.
Sara:We don't have anyone else to answer to, so to speak.
Serena:Yeah. That is such a Capricorn experience of having a lot of responsibility at a young age and then the older that you get, the more that you let loose. I hear that time and time again. A Capricorn moon, can definitely relate as well, but also having the experience of like what you said, feeling like your mother's husband or mother's confidant or a lot of Capricorns have the experience of feeling like a second or third parent or being the parent in the household. That is a huge Capricorn experience as well.
Sara:Yeah, it is. It is. Sometimes I actually did feel like, oh, I'm not parenting my parents. Why am I more mature than these people? And they're in their thirties and forties.
Sara:I'm like five years old. What's going on here?
Serena:Yes. Oh my god. I relate so heavy. I remember being a kid and being like, if you just do this and you just do this, it would be fine.
Sara:Right. You're giving them advice and they're just not listening and it's very practical. What degrees are Capricorn moon out of curiosity?
Serena:Six degrees.
Sara:Oh, six degrees. Okay. Yeah. All right. So your moon is red am I rising?
Sara:That's funny.
Serena:Yeah. Interesting.
Sara:Yeah. That's probably why we feel so comfortable with each other.
Serena:Yeah, for sure. And I didn't know you had that Cancer Moon too. Well, guess we can talk a little bit about that Pluto ingress going through Capricorn as if there's anyone with Aquarius placements that are watching this. Being that we went through it in the past like eighteen years and the Aquarius placements are about to go through that as well. Pluto touching your rising, going through your first house, touching a planet like the sun, moon, Venus, like such a prominent planet is no joke.
Sara:It's not a joke. Yeah. And we don't want to we don't want to scare Aquarius placements, but it's just it just it just is what it is, guys. And we're going to tell you exactly how it is. We're going to prepare you in advance here because it's yeah, you you come out a different person.
Sara:And it's so funny. Like, I have a lot of clients who are about to go through Saturn return or are going through Saturn return. And they're terrified because, you know, there's a lot of information on TikTok and whatnot about, like, Saturn return. It sucks. And I'm like, listen.
Sara:Saturn return, you'll be fine, especially, you're doing the work yourself in there, everything. It's gonna be fine. It's when Pluto touches a personal planet or one of your angles. That's
Serena:when you're gonna be like fighting for your life. You're fighting
Sara:for your life. Yeah. Because I think when it happened to you, it was probably, what, like, 2011, 2012, it touched your moon. Is that correct?
Serena:Yeah. Around that time. So
Sara:yeah. So that's a lot of emotional upheaval.
Serena:Yeah. When I was touching my moon, I was in like middle school and high school. All the hormones plus Pluto is like, you know, smacking me in the face. Yeah. That can definitely touching your moon sign is definitely a lot.
Serena:But going through your first house, I mean, that is like Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Sara:Yeah. So I'll I'll just give my my little tail here of what happened. I can probably do a three hour podcast about that, but I'm, I'm not going to hold you for that long. So it's going to be like the three minute version. So of course it touched my rising first.
Sara:My Mercury's on my rising. So the first thing that happened, it was 2008 when that started with my Mercury. So that's when I decided to go back to school and get my teaching degree, which is kind of funny because it's Mercury. Okay. Then yeah.
Sara:And then I changed jobs and I, it was like, I'll, I only needed like three more credits or whatever to become a teacher. And it was just basically my student teaching. So that was it. I went, I became a teacher. I was working in a really shitty job before then in Bank of America.
Sara:So that was divine timing too, that I got out at that time because 2008, we all know what happened in Bank of America 2008. Yeah. So, yeah. So it was like a completely different work environment, completely different set of people. So completely different perspective.
Sara:And then when it touched my rising, that was let me think. That was like two years later. And that's when I got pregnant with my with my daughter. So that changed my whole world. Of course, like, it changes everyone's world when they have a baby, but this was very different because I took some time off of work after that.
Sara:And that was I've been working, like, my my whole life. As soon as I can make money, can make money. It's very, very Capricorn rising. Right?
Serena:Mhmm.
Sara:So I had to surrender to my husband in in that way, not like in the weird, like, track way for a way, but just like, okay, are you actually gonna take care of us? Are you actually like to trust him to do things, which was very, very hard for me. And we made it. And then when Pluto opposed my moon, that sucked. That sucked real, real, bad.
Sara:That sucked. So if you have a Leo moon, listen up because you're you're you're not exempt from this. So that's when we moved across the world and we moved abroad for three years. And the first year being there, I went I had terrible, like, depression. Like, I've been depressed often on my life, like, just kinda like, you know, it's not been so bad, just kinda the blues or whatever.
Sara:But this was like, you know, a suicidal. I hope I can say that on here or yeah.
Serena:Well, yeah. A 100%. Like, Pluto brings that. Yeah. Not to fear monger, but Pluto was such a a dark planet, it is the ruler of the underworld you know like you are meeting your shadow side and your shadow self and your deepest darkest thoughts fears everything yeah so it's no joke and like people who are listening like I don't I always tell people like I don't talk about real things to fearmonger and if you're easily you know scared or just person triggered you probably shouldn't be into astrology.
Serena:It's just like, it's a tool. It's a form of like learning yourself. And I think it's actually so nice knowing that, if I'm gonna experience this placement, this aspect soon, I'm ready for it. You know what I mean? Yeah.
Serena:Yeah. I definitely really yeah.
Sara:Yeah. Because I felt very isolated because we're in Taiwan, which they speak Mandarin Chinese, and it did get better. Like, I wound up loving it there and everything like that. But at first, I didn't like, lot of the women, they rejected me. So I was friends with the women who, you know, were from Taiwan and they were excellent.
Sara:They were great, but there's a cultural there's a cultural divide there.
Serena:Oh, yeah. Even if
Sara:they can speak English, it's like, you know, they're looking at me sideways about certain things that I'm doing and that's that's okay. I totally understand that. So it's very uncomfortable. It's very isolating at first. So, yeah, I did bring up a lot of anxieties that I was storing from childhood.
Sara:It's like, it's it's your moon. It's your sense of safety and everything that I pushed under. If you have a Leo moon, especially the early degrees of Leo, I would recommend like right now, do your shadow work, go to therapy. If there are things that you are holding back from yourself, it's time to face those of course with a good therapist. And I did wind up going to a really good British cognitive behavioral therapist during that And time she was amazing.
Sara:Like she really helped me shift my perspective. So see, it's not all bad. It's like I learned how to face my shadows and I came out from it emotionally stronger, more resilient. And then so now we're gonna go all the way to 2020 when it's Pluto takes so long. Touched my son from 2020 to about, you know, like in and out from 2020 to like early twenty twenty two.
Sara:That girl, I had to face so many crazy things, karmic people.
Serena:Yeah. Are not safe from this Pluto transit.
Sara:No, no, no. Like literally like karmic people that I never thought I would meet in my life. Very intense karmic connections with people. Finding my spirituality 100% starting this business, leaving teaching almost, and my husband will be okay with us me saying this because we've talked about it publicly, almost getting divorced, putting our marriage back together. It was a lot because Pluto on your son, what it does is you go under and then you emerge.
Sara:That's what happens. Like you lose who you were and then you become a brand new person, the person that you're really meant to be. And not everyone's going to go through that in this lifetime because Pluto takes so long to get through a sign. So I think sufficiently scared your audience from Pluto transits.
Serena:I think it's a nice warning for sure for the Aquarius and the Leo placements coming up. Being that we have Capricorn and Cancer placements, like we been through it, but look, survived. You know, like we're here. Better than ever. Exactly.
Serena:That's what Pluto does.
Sara:Yeah. That doesn't that can't kill you nothing well. I'm telling you.
Serena:Oh, yeah.
Sara:If that can kill you nothing well.
Serena:I feel the things that I've gone through with Pluto going over my moon and opposing my son. So going over my moon, which is interesting. So Pluto, you know, destructs, transforms. It is the planet of death and rebirth experiences. It is literally destructing and old to create a new.
Serena:So it's not all bad, but it is like a, you are not coming out the same person as you were going in when Pluto touches your main planets. And the moon rules things of your family and your home life and stuff like that, your childhood, So how you grew when I was touching my moon, I was in middle school and high school, definitely went through, this is when I started going through a very dark time period in my life. My parents' relationship wasn't good. We were thinking about moving again and then I was struggling with a really bad eating disorder. If we wanna talk about like, yeah, really dark thoughts, that's the most that I can that I can describe it like dark at home and then like dark at school too.
Serena:I felt like I couldn't escape. So it was just like a great cloud over my head. Yeah.
Sara:We're also going through your Saturn opposition during that time too, right? Because if that was going on like in eighth, ninth grade, that's when you have your Saturn opposition around 15. So that's a lot to deal with all at once. Plus the hormones, like you said.
Serena:Yeah. Plus being a freaking teenager and middle school just sucking.
Sara:Middle school sucks for almost everybody.
Serena:Yeah. So let alone like being a little kid with fricking Capricorn placements. And then when I was opposing my son, my cancer son, that was definitely a time where I was grieving and I was exiting a five year relationship, five and a half year relationship. So it was such an odd feeling. It was a feeling of, I guess, because with that opposition, you're trying to find like the balance.
Serena:So it's like, do I choose succumbing to, you know, this life that's comfortable, but I would probably be miserable? Or do I completely move into the unknown, which is scary, equally scary?
Sara:So
Serena:yeah, that is that was my experience with with Pluto. So I definitely do encourage, like what you said, to get entering therapy because actually both those times I was in therapy thinking about it. It helps getting like another perspective because you can be engulfed by Pluto's darkness easily.
Sara:You can. You can. Because it seems like it's forever. It really does.
Serena:Yeah.
Sara:And it's not. It's absolutely not. You know, I've talked to so many people who are on the Capricorn Cancer Access and we've all made it through. So I just want to encourage that, for people who have, especially Leo and Aquarius, you guys can be a little bit more hard headed than us. You really can't be.
Sara:Please go to therapy. There will, you can find a good therapist. There's of course there's therapists that might not be good matches for you. Just like there's astrologers that are good astrologers that are not going to align with you, but you will find someone who aligns with you to help Yeah. You So don't be that hard headed and stubborn where you're not going to accept help.
Sara:If you don't accept help, it's yeah, I can't imagine like not opening up myself to receive help during that time. How much longer it would have lasted. It would have endured in not a pretty way.
Serena:Oh yeah, for sure. And especially having like Capricorn placements too. I don't know if you relate to this, but at first I was very reluctant to therapy. Guess I should say the second time around when I was an adult going through the Pluto sun opposition. Having a Capricorn mood, I'm always like, oh, I got it.
Serena:I'm fine. I don't need help. Just that innate, I just got it. But really being vulnerable is also a life lesson of Capricorn too. We don't always have to have our walls up.
Serena:We don't always have have to be like this, you know, stone cold type of person being vulnerable. Definitely.
Sara:Yeah. Yeah. Because we wanna do it all all by ourselves. We feel like there's some reward there. I I think what it is with Saturn's influence, it's almost like we don't want to owe anybody anything.
Serena:Yes.
Sara:Does that make sense? Like, we don't wanna owe people. But if you think about it, like if someone really loves you, like if you have a significant other or a family member or friend who really loves you, it's their pleasure to help you. What all that you're owing them basically is just like reciprocating by getting better, by receiving. That that's all you're that's all you're doing.
Sara:And then when it comes to a therapist, of course, like, you're pinging them. That's their work. So don't feel weird about it.
Serena:Not wanting to anyone to throw anything in my face. And then, like, when people do things and they're like, oh, I'm doing it because I because I want to because I love you. It's like, oh, okay.
Sara:It's suspicious.
Serena:Yeah. Right?
Sara:Or do you want me to do something? Want to do
Serena:something. What are your love languages?
Sara:Okay, so I would say that I am very acts of service to others, Yeah. Which I didn't really realize that. But I think for it to receive, I like physical touch. What about you? Because you're also Capricorn moon.
Serena:So I love acts of service and giving and receiving. If I'm dating someone and they just do something for me without me even asking, I'm like, is that nice? Okay. And quality time. That's definitely my time.
Serena:Yeah.
Sara:I always forget about that one. Yeah. That's the best because without it, how are you going to connect with people?
Serena:Yeah, exactly. And like quality time where it's like we are actually engaged in each other and not just sitting next to each other. You know, I have a Gemini Venus, so I'm very much like, let's have a conversation. Let's do a date. Like, you know,
Sara:what's your Venus? My Venus is inside just us laughing. We're like flip.
Serena:Okay. We literally are.
Sara:That's so funny. That's so funny. Yeah. So yeah, yeah, I that's that's my thing. Like, I want to have an equality experience with someone where the phone is down.
Sara:The phone is down and memorable experience or like a vacation. So I think for you, it's probably like really intellectually connecting in a conversation like this. And then for me, it's like, let's go do something outside of the house. Like I need to get out of the house, which is weird because I have a cancer moon where I'm like, let's
Serena:go
Sara:out the house, let's do something different. That Venus and Sagittarius is, it's weird with my chart. It just, but it's
Serena:Yeah, think it's funny because I think that creates balance in our in our charts because we have like the I'm very water dominated in my chart and then I'm earth moon. But then that Gemini Venus is like, let's get out the house. Let's let's do something. Let's meet people. Let's talk.
Serena:Let's because I'm also a bartender, too. So I can I'm equally very homebody, but I'm equally very extroverted, wanting to meet people. So I bet you're probably like the same way.
Sara:Oh, very, very similar. Yeah. And I think that when you're making drinks for people too, it's like you get to know different parts of their personality.
Serena:And
Sara:I'm sure you have great conversations about astrology.
Serena:Oh yeah.
Sara:At the bar there too. You probably open people up to it.
Serena:Yeah. Or if I'll over I'll overhear people talk about astrology sometimes and I'm like, are we talking about astrology?
Sara:Exactly. Here's my card.
Serena:Yeah, literally. This is my bread and butter. I'm an astrologer. It's like a form of marketing.
Sara:It definitely is.
Serena:So for the Capricorn placements, there's a lot of planets in Capricorn right now. Would you say are some things that are coming up for the Capricorns and the Capricorn risings?
Sara:So right now there's that Kazimi at 16 degrees today and it's keep with that conjunction with Venus, with Mars, with the sun. I really feel like this this is like the most super Capricorn of Capricorn seasons in a very long time. Yeah. So for Capricorn risings or Capricorn suns, it's like we're really being pushed to do something different. And I don't mean like something completely new.
Sara:I think it's something like we're putting a new spin on what we've already been doing. Opportunities should be very effortless to Capricorn Risings right now, especially in terms of building business in the long term as well. So I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people met like new business partners, collaborators around this time, especially because asteroid Juno, I believe it's like a two or three degrees right now as we speak. So that's the asteroid marriage soul contract. So a lot, yeah.
Sara:So a lot of people of Capricorn rising are really meeting a lot of fortuitous matches for themselves. Doesn't necessarily have to be romantic though. I would say it's more about like people who are supposed to be like on your side, on your team for the long haul, is really cool. And then I was looking at not just this Capricorn season, but 2026 in general, like with Jupiter and Leo, and it's going to move through our eighth house. This can be very spicy for Capricorn risings.
Sara:And I think a lot of people, they don't wanna a lot of Capricorn risings, they don't wanna talk about this part of themselves. But this is really gonna bring out, I would say, like, more sexual freedom for the Capricorn rising with Jupiter there because, you know, Jupiter is the planet expansion. So I think if people have been wanting to try new things in in that department, that can come up. And I I think also like that ability to be able to communicate with their partner about what they want and have fun with it. That's gonna be really yeah.
Sara:It's gonna be fun for the Capricorn rising. Now there are some things coming up for Capricorn risings this year that, you know, next couple years, really next fourteen years with all the Aries placements. Yes.
Serena:Yeah. Yeah. So signs got a little break. I feel like last year, maybe 2025, as in 2025.
Sara:2025.
Serena:That Jupiter in Cancer was nice for the Cardinals. Yeah. But now with Saturn and Neptune moving into Aries, it's like, can't catch a break, man.
Sara:Well, I mean, the if anything because, you know, in whole sign Saturn's moving through the fourth house. So if anything, the next two and a half, two and three quarters years, like, alright. A lot of Capricorn risings will be laying down roots and, you know, creating more boundaries and structures with their families and things of that nature. That could be really good.
Serena:Yeah.
Sara:I would just say it might feel awkward for a lot of Capricorn risings who put so much emphasis on work because it seems like with that Saturn down there, there's a lot of emphasis on family. And because Saturn's a ruling planet, it could feel like, okay. Look. I have to do my major patriarch thing, and this is not something that I'm used to doing. So it's like we have to get out of our comfort zones and focus more on our on our family life.
Sara:So that can be difficult for some people with Capricorn rising because Yeah. As we discussed, like, lot of people with Capricorn risings have had traumatic childhoods, that kind of thing. So they really don't wanna think about, like, their, you know, home life, parents, all those kind of things. But with Neptune there, you know, I think this can also help with at least alleviating some of the stress.
Serena:I think so too. I think Neptune definitely I think Neptune and Saturn, they're together. They definitely balance each other out. Like, definitely softens the blow a little bit that Saturn would usually give, and Saturn definitely brings more groundedness to the la la land that Neptune can be as Yeah. 100 Yeah.
Sara:I think it's like, if anything, it's gonna make it more spiritual, like creating more spiritual foundations in the home and that kind of thing.
Serena:For sure.
Sara:So that will be good. The only caution I would put with that with Neptune squaring the rising, you know, this is a fourteen year thing, you have to check your degree of rising.
Serena:Yeah.
Sara:It could feel for, especially the beginning of, you know, your early degree rising that maybe you're not understanding yourself or not putting out the image that other people are understanding because you're not having understanding of yourself somehow. It's like there's some confusion there between like who you are at home and who you're trying to put yourself out in the world. So definitely like clear communication is gonna be a lesson. And I really don't think Capricorn Risings have a difficult time with clear communication. If anything, sometimes we're too abrupt with our communication.
Sara:If you know this because you have your cardinal too. Sometimes we have a difficult time just like sitting there and having enough empathy for others who have wronged us. Because we tend to just leave situations very quickly that don't work out for us. So there might be something there where we can't just say, okay, bye. We're leaving.
Sara:We might have to actually, like, have more patience to sit with it. That's that's what I'm thinking.
Serena:Yeah.
Sara:You know?
Serena:More, like, compassion. I think Neptune brings definitely that that empathy. Sometimes Capricorns are notorious for just wanting to create distance and, know, in my bag, out my feelings type of thing.
Sara:Yeah. It's not worth my time. Yeah, it's not worth my time if you're not paying me or paying me attention. That works.
Serena:Like I don't have time for these feelings, for these emotions. And I think Neptune is definitely going to squaring that ascendant is definitely going to bring something surrounding the home life, the family, parents, some type of empathy, some type of, what's the word that I'm thinking of? Yeah. Coming face to I see a lot of maybe Capricorn Rising's maybe dealing with that. Because like what you said, Neptune is is a like a twelve, fourteen year long transit.
Serena:So this isn't something that is just gonna be a one and done type of thing. Definitely check your rising sign degree. But this is a full this, you know, years and years worth of Years. Stuff.
Sara:Yeah. Yeah. And Neptune, fortunately, is not as difficult as Pluto. I know I've heard some astrologer on TikTok saying, like, Neptune transits could be awful. But I think that, like, if you're not an honest person, if you're not being honest with yourself, if you're not honest with others, yes, Neptune can be very difficult because Neptune, you know, it's not just our spirituality.
Sara:It's not only our creativity. It can be about like illusions. So if you're living in an illusion or if you're a fraud, then, yeah, it's this is gonna suck. But like that's like anything. Like, it's gonna come and get you anytime.
Sara:But, yeah, I wouldn't worry too much about it. And then lastly, with, like, Uranus and Gemini moving through the sixth house, that just tells me that a lot of us are gonna, for the next seven years, once again, check your rising sign, check where everything is. But there could be like an adjustment with our routine. Like things might there might be a lot of the things that might seem out of our control. More so this calls for more spontaneity, which I know, yes, guilty as charged.
Sara:Capricorn risings have difficulty with that because you're like, oh no, we created the schedule. We created the plan. We're sticking to it. And then here here it comes. Here it comes.
Sara:Uranus going through a six house. You need to change your plans and also with your diet and things of that nature, make sure you might be having to change that as well because the sixth house also rules what we eat in our gut. So there can be some disruption with that, with their gut microbiome. How much fun is that girl? I don't want to think about that.
Serena:Interesting. I could definitely see a lot of Capricorns and Capricorn risings abruptly finding a new type of health and fitness routine works for them or maybe having to seek out and find that and be like, oh, this actually, this is what I need to do in order to, you know, be healthier or yeah you know stuff like that. Like what you said Capricorns and Capricorn Rising they can when there's a schedule they're sticking to the schedule they don't really they're kind of rigid in that way. I think being a little bit more open minded in the how your day to day can fluctuate I think will definitely be something good because you're in this is you know trying to open your mind to trying to expand you it's like that I describe Uranus as like the friend who puts you out on like a wild night and you never know how it's gonna end up. Like it could be really bad but it could be really great and then it's gonna like really expand your perspective at the end of the day.
Serena:So I think when you lean into like Uranus's chaoticness, you actually learn a lot and different ways of doing things, especially in in Gemini too. Uranus likes being in Gemini even though it's a little chaotic. It's definitely curious.
Sara:Forward to it. I'm looking forward to it. It's it's gonna be a lot of fun. It's gonna be a lot of new inventions too. I feel like I know that.
Serena:Yeah. Know.
Sara:Yeah. There's
Serena:a at a
Sara:high speed. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, Uranus was already in Gemini for a little bit last year when I tried Pluto and look how much AI has accelerated.
Sara:Yeah. So we're we're back at it. We're back at that again. I'm like,
Serena:I don't know if I want
Sara:to see this, but then I'm like, I guess I have to.
Serena:Have to be
Sara:more open minded about it. Right. So we'll see where it all goes. I'm sure there'll be some positive advances, especially in the medical field, yeah,
Serena:feel that comes to a lot. Yeah.
Sara:Probably like for surgical things and whatnot. But when it comes to social media, even though that's our bread and butter, A lot of the things in social media and how it's being utilized, especially with these AI accounts. I don't know if you've noticed that some some accounts are not even real people anymore. And a lot
Serena:of people don't know how this is gonna. I really don't know how where social media is moving to be honest. But with Uranus and Gemini bringing a lot of inventions, Gemini being ruled by the planet Mercury of communication, definitely our phones, like everything with how we communicate, how we spread information, it's going to change 100%. Driving to transportation, people and astrologers have been predicting that this is, you know, what the Uranus and Gemini transit is when cars are it's going be normalized for cars to just be driving themselves and, you know, the extinction of the taxi cab driver and Uber drivers and stuff. So which is scary a little bit.
Sara:It is scary, but then I hear some of this stuff about like, you know, people getting s a in the the Uber and things of that nature. And like, a robot can't can't do that to you. But if the robot, you know, it's that whole I forgot what it's called. Like, something about the trolley theory. I I it's like I forgot exactly what it's called, but it's basically like if you, you know, are up against, two different accidents, how does the robot know the most moral accident to choose?
Sara:And that's when we get into a whole, you know, ball wax there. So that is, and we're like, what if the robot gets controlled by something else? You know? So it's scary, but at the same time, it's so exciting that we get to be alive right now in this world to witness this. And there's people who have just dreamed of this for centuries.
Serena:Oh yeah, for sure. I definitely feel that emotion of feeling equally excited, but equally kind of scared.
Sara:Friend. Yeah.
Serena:Know, don't know if you're really having Capricorn placements. We can kind of be like old ladies sometimes. Like I I'm like an old soul I'm like what is this new invention? We kind of stick to what we know. It's hard for me to move outside my doing things a different way, should say.
Serena:If I know like one way is great and like why would I do it differently? But we are definitely moving in an age where we're gonna start having to do things differently. Know, we'll just
Sara:have to adapt. Yeah, must adapt. Yeah. And that can be a little hard for us. I agree.
Serena:Yeah, for sure. But we are definitely moving into a completely new era. 2026 is we're seeing all the outer planets be in a different sign now. Pluto has been in Aquarius, Neptune is moving into Aries for good this month and then Saturn is moving into Aries, Uranus moving into Gemini, Jupiter then moves into Leo, but Jupiter enters a different sign every year, but still.
Sara:Yeah. Still in All fire
Serena:and air.
Sara:Yeah. Which I love. I love that. I felt like at least people are gonna feel more energetic, like Yes. You know?
Sara:Yeah. Which I think that's been kind of an issue since the pandemic because there's been just so much earth and water, which, you know, we we like because it feels familiar for us. But at the same time, I think it's going to really give people the impetus to get out of the house, socialize again, get dressed again, all the I
Serena:definitely feel that.
Sara:Meet different people. Yeah. Yeah. And reinvent themselves. And I'm excited for that because it kind of reminds me of, like, nineties energy in a way even though it's, like, modernized.
Sara:Right? Because that's when we had Pluto and Sag and some of the I think it was, like, Uranus was in Aquarius at the time, things of that nature. So it's like people wanna get out. They wanna they wanna go to the club, which I'm like, I don't know if I wanna go to club again. Yeah.
Sara:Yeah. You know what I mean? They wanna get out. They wanna socialize.
Serena:And when you think about it, yeah, Uranus was in Aquarius and that's when the Internet exploded. So now Pluto is following its footsteps with Uranus in an air sign as well, forming a harmonious aspect too. So it's going to be that times 10. It looks like the internet has grandbabies and they're running around and about. I knew for Saturn.
Sara:Isn't it the Saturn return of when people started using the internet at home too, like to that extent. Because I'm thinking about think so. Five. Yeah. Because in '95, that's I believe that's when AOL came out.
Sara:I could I could be wrong, but I remember at least that's when we got it in in my house.
Serena:Mhmm.
Sara:And this was like Windows '95 came out and AOL. And then everyone was like on there, you know, utilizing it, use utilizing chat rooms, message boards. It's like the Saturn return of of all of that. And like what you said, Pluto following Uranus' path at that time. So it's interesting that you made that connection because there's some parallels between what I went through in middle school and what everybody else is about to go through.
Sara:Yeah. Very cool.
Serena:Yeah. Interesting. Because that was the explosion of social media and now or the Internet, I should say. And now I feel the Internet going through definitely a rebirth of a sort. There's definitely things changing with how we communicate on here and stuff.
Sara:Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. We'll see how it all pans out.
Serena:Yeah. For sure. Yeah. So what are some things that you're working on? Anything coming up for you?
Serena:Where can people find you and connect with you?
Sara:Sure, sure. So you can find me on sarahashleyastrology.com. I have twenty twenty six readings available for the next couple weeks. Then I next month, I'll do some kind of like Valentine's special, of course. I'll put that together.
Sara:I live in the Chicagoland area. So if you're ever in the area and you want to know if I'm in an event, can just message me. I'm not going to meet you in person unless I know you're fine. I'll meet you in person, Serena, but
Serena:I'm not kidding. You're in person for a reading. You know how it is.
Sara:But if you're, you know, interested in coming to an event, I have an I have several events in this area throughout the year. So definitely, if you wanna know that, just, like, message me on Instagram. I also have Instagram, TikTok and that's that's on my website. It's in my little link tree there.
Serena:Okay perfect. Well thank you again for coming on this episode with me. I had such a great time talking with you and yeah, I'm excited for everyone to listen to this episode. Think this was a really good episode.
Sara:Great. Thank you so much for having me. I appreciate your candor and your ability to ask me such great questions that I never would have even thought of. So thank you so much.
Serena:Yes. Thank you. I appreciate it.