Mr. & Mrs. Inglis

All aboard the chaos express! If you’ve got a ticket for this ride, you already know it. It’s the one where there’s never enough time in the day—kids’ schedules outpace yours, work demands keep piling up, and oh yeah, the laundry, dishes, mowing the lawn, and bills aren’t going to handle themselves. Let’s not forget staying connected with friends and family, even though you planned to be in bed by 9 pm…but it’s now 11 pm, and tomorrow starts before the sun does. Sound familiar?

We’re right there with you. Welcome to The Mr. & Mrs. Inglis Podcast, hosted by Shaen and Meghan Inglis—a weekly show where we dive into real and honest conversations about the wild ride of raising kids, growing careers, and managing family and friendships in the middle of life’s beautiful chaos. So, grab your ticket and join us for a weekly dose of camaraderie, connection, and a reminder that you’re never in this alone.

Follow and subscribe to the Mr. & Mrs. Inglis podcast and visit our channel and our website at shaeninglis.com to check out and follow our other podcasts. You can also follow Shaen and Meghan @ShaenInglis on Instagram, YouTube, or at shaeninglis.com. Feel free to share the Mr. & Mrs. Inglis podcast with someone who would enjoy and benefit from our weekly discussions.

What is Mr. & Mrs. Inglis?

We’re right there with you. Welcome to The Mr. & Mrs. Inglis Podcast, hosted by Shaen and Meghan Inglis—a weekly show where we dive into real and honest conversations about the wild ride of raising kids, growing careers, and managing family and friendships in the middle of life’s beautiful chaos. So grab your ticket and join us for a weekly dose of camaraderie, connection, and a reminder that you’re never in this alone.

Follow and subscribe to the Mr. & Mrs. Inglis podcast and visit our channel and our website at shaeninglis.com to check out and follow our other podcasts. You can also follow Shaen and Meghan @ShaenInglis on Instagram, YouTube, etc. Feel free to share the Mr. & Mrs. Inglis podcast with someone who would enjoy and benefit from our weekly discussions.

[MUSIC]

We're trying to do, that's sad, more

technical difficulties.

How would you feel if I

walked watch Rexxum without you?

Some days you're like, the

universe wants me to complain.

I want an impolupa now.

Is that her name, Peruga?

That's a weird name.

F-bomb this, S-bomb this,

hang loose, you're on it.

We went all Ross Geller

because of a sandwich.

But I gave the pep talk, I said, listen,

everybody huddle up.

And he glisses.

[LAUGH]

We're all in this huddle and I'm looking

around at everybody,

I'm about to give a Rudy speech.

I'm like, we will not

be that Hawaii family.

And patience is the one

virtue that I don't possess.

He did that to me.

Those cookies, I don't even know what the

bottom of it is, but

then you put a Hershey's

kiss on the top of them.

I would eat around the

Hershey's kiss and then pop a

little bit of cookie.

100%.

That's how you're supposed to eat those?

I always ate them.

Good to know.

You don't eat them that way, I think

you're eating them wrong.

Sean, if you're going to be a banker,

you've got to learn to

golf.

I got the all clear.

I get to go ahead and live my life

according to my surgeon.

Except I can't play tackle football.

One, two, three.

I'm a little bit of a fan of logistics.

She said bop sled.

Would you have been better work?

Yeah.

And I'll stay Constantinople next time.

Yeah.

Joining.

Now?

When you're ready.

Welcome to the Mr. and

Mrs. English podcast.

I'm Megan.

And I'm Sean.

We're here to talk about the

wild ride of raising kids and

growing careers, keeping life

together in the middle of all

the chaos.

So buckle up, because we're all in this

crazy journey together.

We'll try it.

We'll try without it.

Oh, technical difficulties.

You would think by the 30th

episode, we'd be all good.

Well, I'm pretty sure.

Welcome, everybody.

We're trying to do--

oh, that's sad.

More technical difficulties.

Well, if you're just

listening, Megan's mic just

committed--

I don't know.

It lost all its air, at least.

It went from standing at

attention and being excited

about this podcast to not.

There you go.

All right, technical difficulties.

That's the second one.

So I was trying to fix where

I've noticed on some of these

it's auto focusing us.

So it's taking us in and out, in and out.

We're giving our watchers a

little bit of motion sickness.

Motion sickness, that's right.

So it was one thing

when we were on the cruise.

But now that we're in the studio,

we probably shouldn't be.

That really was movement.

Yeah, yeah.

We've got to land legs back on now.

Took a while.

We did.

Then I just had the saddest mic ever.

Oh, yeah.

All right, we're past those, though.

We're good.

We got it done.

What people may not know is that we are

not actually podcasters

or technically savvy with any of this.

Well, you are.

I'm really not.

I've learned enough to pull it together.

But I get emails all the time, right?

People on LinkedIn or

people that are just trolling,

trying to sell me something like, hey,

I've noticed your

transitions are pretty rough.

Or maybe you need this or that.

Are you serious?

Yeah, they don't say it that way.

But they're like, hey,

we can help your editing

and make it more like, you know what?

We've got to dissolve.

We've got to cross dissolve.

We've got three different camera angles.

We're good.

And that's a little offensive.

So thanks.

That's right.

But I mean, it's not like this is--

I mean, we're not primetime.

So I think it's going to be OK.

If we get smart list viewership, then--

Yeah, that's right.

You should probably hire someone.

Well, you know, SiriusXM, they did knock.

They did send us something.

I deleted it, though.

It's not ready for that kind of thing.

Yeah, yeah.

It just sounds like too much.

It's just too much.

Yeah, it's not like that show.

So we've been watching that

show, "Castle Impossible."

Yes.

First season-- I don't know

if anybody's ever seen it.

But it's "Castle Impossible."

These people, they inherited a chateau

outside of Paris and France.

And they're both from California.

The wife, her

grandfather gifted it to her.

Yes.

And this isn't a plug, but I'm going

somewhere with this.

Anyways, they just did the first season.

So it's her and her

husband, Ian, I think it is.

And this chateau is like 500 years old,

so they're redoing it.

And there's a hidden treasure there.

And so they're trying

to make it interesting.

But it's kind of like a rehab show.

It is.

Because they're just refurbishing this.

This 500-year-old castle.

And you love it.

Actually, the whole family loves it.

The whole family loves it.

In fact, the 11-year-old was so upset he

went to a sleepover.

And the next morning, not

joking, he was in tears.

He's like, you watched it without me?

Yeah.

He's like, how would you feel if I

watched "Rexam" without you?

He was like, OK.

Pulling a ticket.

Wow.

Yeah.

He was--

But it's just interesting.

It's fun.

I don't know why the

kids like it so much.

But it's just one of

these fixer-upper type shows.

And it's cool.

It's in France.

And it's a castle.

It's a castle.

They're fixing up a castle.

Yeah.

The way they make money is

they hold weddings there.

Yeah.

So that's how they do it.

But the reason I

brought it up is because--

Yeah, I was going to

go, where are we going?

Because I just want people to watch it.

I want you to write in HGTV.

They haven't signed

up for a second season.

Yeah, but they should.

But the reason I was saying it is--

I can't remember her name, Daphne?

Daphne.

Oh, I did get it right.

Daphne and Ian,

they're both just so likable.

They are.

Right?

Ian's hilarious.

He looks like Josh Groban.

100%.

Sorry, Josh, but he looks

like a young Josh Groban.

Because Ian's younger.

That was--

Well, Josh is like my age, I think.

He's maybe a little bit

younger than me, Josh Groban is.

But anyways, but they're funny.

They're just likable people.

And my point is, as likable as you are,

I bring this whole thing way down.

So I'm not likable enough

for this to go on SiriusXM.

And thus, we don't

have the technical support

or capabilities.

And that's the end of that story.

Yeah, you don't bring it down.

In fact, without you, we

wouldn't have any of this.

See, I brought it.

Well, anyways.

Anyway, so that's where I

was trying to go with that,

is to watch "Castle Impossible."

Yes. They haven't signed them

up for a second season yet.

And we really want-- because, I mean,

it's like a family thing for us.

So yeah.

It is.

But they're likable people.

That's why it's funny.

Because people always talk about--

we talked about maybe

on the last podcast of--

people always think like, oh, we should

have a reality series.

Right.

And we had mentioned--

we have some family members.

And I listened to us

when I edited saying that.

I didn't want to feel like I

was throwing some family members

under the bus like, oh,

he's probably talking about me.

Or whatever it might be.

No, but I've had-- we

have family members.

And they know who they are.

They're like, we should

have cameras in our lives.

Right.

And I don't know how much I

can say about those people.

Because they just have

a lot of stuff going on.

I mean, a lot of drama.

Hopefully, everything-- I mean, things

have ebbed and flowed

and gotten better here and there.

But they do have some drama.

Yes.

And that might be interesting.

But that's not the kind of things that--

I don't know if people watch that.

Because that's like real life drama.

That's more of a drama versus--

Yeah.

Ours is more like a spoof.

I don't know.

We're not going to do it.

But I'm just saying, if you

look at some of these reality

television shows out there

right now, they're more like--

they're just so fake.

They're not even real life.

Right.

It's the let's go rafting down the Timbs.

Right.

And they're probably like, oh, wow.

They put them in the

situations to make the drama.

Yeah.

The drama doesn't just come about.

And we don't air enough.

We don't really air

our dirty laundry here.

This is more for fun than--

like I said, I want that other podcast

where we can air some

of that and grievances and whatnot.

But this is more of a

positive one, just for fun, I think.

Yeah, for sure.

For sure.

Yeah.

We want to come across as likable and--

Yeah, it's hard.

But we're trying.

It's really hard,

especially when we're like,

yeah, I want one which

says I'm peeved, where we just

complain and moan about everything.

Sometimes it's easy.

Sometimes it's real easy.

It is.

Yeah.

Some days you're like, the

universe wants me to complain.

Yeah.

Like, that's why they

gave me that situation.

Well, and I don't know if

other couples are like this.

But for you and I, it works

out perfect because I am--

I am definitely, I

guess, a half glass empty guy.

And I didn't used to be like that.

I used to feel like--

I didn't feel like I was pessimistic.

And I've come to realize I am.

So I am.

That's fine.

It is what it is.

But the balance to that is you.

You're a very optimistic person.

You're a glass flowing over

type person, which is fantastic.

So I mean, it levels us out.

It levels us out.

Because either way, you

can't have too much of both.

Or you can't have too

much of one of them.

You got to have--

Yeah, I think we hold

hands and jump off the bridge

if we were both like me.

You know?

And if we're both like me, it's like,

hey, we're going to fly.

We're jumping off the bridge, both.

Either way, one is for a hard splashdown.

And the other is to just--

Float.

Fly away.

This is fun.

Bubbles.

It's like Willy Wonka, right?

Either on the thing.

Don't touch the ceiling.

The bubble room.

And then you start burping.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, you had to get down.

That's right.

Oh, my gosh.

I will now forever associate that movie.

Because that one kid

that we saw on our trip,

he was totally Veruca, right?

And he's like, oh, I

want an impolompa now.

I want an impolompa now.

It was exactly this child.

And yeah, so now I'm always going to be

like, we met Veruca.

You used to use Veruca.

Is that her name, Veruca?

That's a weird name.

I apologize to any Veruca's out there.

But spoiler alert, you

have a very weird name.

Send me an email.

But we used to use her as

an example of what not to be.

Oh, we totally did.

And then we met a real life Veruca.

Real life one.

And you're like, wow.

And I was a little proud that the

children were like--

yeah, they saw it.

Sadly, there was no

blueberry candy to feed her.

I don't know what happened.

Was she the one that got big blueberry?

No, she was a golden egg.

I don't remember.

I don't know.

That movie always creeped me

out, I'm going to be honest.

That reminds me, though,

did we ever get into on this

what we were talking

about, the Hawaii family?

No, we never did.

Yeah, that was one thing we were like,

oh, we should bring up

the Hawaii family.

Yes.

Do you want to bring it up on me?

We should bring up the Hawaii family.

Because, yeah, you go.

OK.

Well, so when we were in

Hawaii two years ago with the Gibbs,

we had a big family

reunion out there, a lot of fun.

We went early, as a

couple of people did, too.

We went early, and we were over on--

Kauai.

I don't know why that

slipped my mind there

for the first couple of days.

And we were going around to

different places and whatnot,

but we went to a beach.

And this left a lasting impression on us.

Because we went to this beach, and there

was a family that was

just getting into us so mad

at themselves.

Oh my gosh.

At each other.

I mean, parents cussing at the kids--

the kids were preteen to teen, right?

Yeah. 15.

Similar ages to our children.

Similar ages, yeah.

Maybe the older two.

I don't--

I would say they ranged from eight to 15.

Yeah.

And there was two or three of them.

Two or three of them.

Yeah.

And they were cussing at each other.

The mom was probably the worst.

Oh, she was awful.

She was losing her stinking mind.

Like, F-bomb this, S-bomb this.

And they were literally just trying

to come down the beach on vacation.

They were just trying to find a place to

put their towels down

on the beach in Kauai.

So I mean, you should be a little--

you know, I mean, hang

loose, Relatics, man.

I mean, hang loose, right?

Yeah.

They were losing their stinking mind.

Everybody-- it was like time stopped.

Everybody was just like--

because they came in like Uncle Eddie.

You remember Uncle Eddie when

he's going to the pool party

on Christmas vacation?

And he's got his white

shirt pulled underneath his--

White feeder with his leopard bikini.

Yeah.

That's like-- they're

like-- and he's got his chairs

and his floaties under

his arms and his goggles on.

That's, in my mind, how

I pictured this family

kind of coming down.

The entryway to the beach.

But just so many,

yelling, yelling at each other.

And I was saying time stopped because

everybody on the beach

was like, what?

Like just--

Everybody stopped to stare.

Yeah.

They did.

And even our kids were

like, what is happening there?

They were out of control.

They were just out of control.

I mean, there's no other way

to say it other than they--

I don't know.

From what I could glean,

it was all about a sandwich.

That's what's crazy.

It went all Ross Geller

because of a sandwich.

And the mom's cussing it.

She's like, he started it.

I was like--

Yeah, blaming their child.

Blaming their child.

She started it.

Yes.

Because he ate my effing sandwich.

We're like--

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Thanks for the detail on that.

Because it was so over the top.

For a sandwich.

Over a sandwich.

But it lasted like 20 minutes.

And I won't make this story 20 minutes.

Because I'm just trying to draw it.

I'm just trying to lay the

baseline here for the fact

that they made an lasting impression.

Because there was times when

we were even on that vacation.

But even more so when we

were on this last vacation.

I know we're getting a lot of mileage out

of this last vacation

talking about it.

But we're still a little on high for it.

It was a great vacation.

But there's times when we would be

frustrated with each other.

And we would be like, look.

And I gave the pep talk.

You did.

I don't remember if it

was in Rome or where it was

or in the airport.

It was in Rome.

But I gave the pep talk.

I said, listen.

Everybody huddle up, Englaces.

We're all in this huddle.

And I'm looking around at everybody.

Like, I'm about to give a Rudy speech.

And I'm like, we will

not be that Hawaii family.

And they all know.

I mean, we all know the

Hawaii family when we speak.

You can't forget it.

I wish I could.

Right.

It actually--

Excellent to us.

But we've talked about it.

We've spoken about them before.

Since then, too.

But I was telling everybody,

we're not going to be them.

We're not going to be them.

It's embarrassing.

We're better than that.

And control ourselves.

Right?

I'm talking about me.

I'm talking about kids.

I'm talking about everybody.

Right?

So we will not do that.

We have got to--

there's going to be a lot of people.

There's going to be a

lot of frustrations.

There's going to be a lot of waiting.

And we have to have patience.

And patience is the one

virtue that I don't possess.

And I may have passed that

along to some of our children.

Or all of them.

Any of them have patience.

So that was the speech.

And there was multiple times

that during the thing, right?

We had to say that.

Where it's like, don't--

we're-- you know, come--

I feel it.

I feel a YE family brewing.

Yeah.

Really, day one was the worst with that.

And we already talked about that.

Because I think we were

just lack of sleep in jet lag.

Yeah.

Yeah, it's pretty mystery.

So patience, no sleep.

I mean, that's like a nightmare cocktail.

Really?

Yeah.

And that was the worst of it.

We got better from there.

But that's our measuring signal.

Like, hey, guys, we will not be that.

People are looking at us.

But you made the comment, though, that

lots of people do that.

So this was eye-opening.

Because I kind of thought that our

family-- we've never,

never come close to Hawaii family level.

Like, for the record.

And every now and

again, you bicker, whatever.

However, there are times

when you're like, oh my gosh,

are we the only family that bickers?

That one kid just cut off the other kid

as we're walking down a sidewalk.

Why would that one kid do that?

So then they're bickering, though.

Yeah, and then they're bickering.

And then I jump in.

I'm like, guys, stop it.

So it's like, if anybody's

watching us during that point

in time, they're like, oh, great family.

Yeah.

And usually it's when

we're walking into church.

You're like the irony here.

It's funny, because our

pastor says it all the time.

He's like, you guys are all yelling at

each other in the car

before you got here.

But now you're in church.

I know.

Yeah.

And now everybody's

acting like it's perfect.

Church-going Christians.

Anyways.

Yeah, but on this vacation, my eyes

were open to the fact

that I can't tell you

how many times I

heard a mom like, you just

stop right now.

She's trying to quietly

scold her child or family.

And I'm like, you did that to me.

And I was like, oh my gosh.

Yeah, I saw a lot of it, too.

I did, too.

I was like, I actually feel normal.

Yeah.

Yeah, because a couple of times--

because I noticed a

couple of that to you,

there's a couple of

people that don't hide it.

And it's like, whoa, that

is just so over the line.

Yeah.

Like, wait.

So it did.

It did normalize a little bit

that we're not the only ones

that do these little bickering.

Never the Hawaii family level.

Yeah.

But they taught us a lesson.

I do not want to be the

center of that attention.

Yeah.

For sure.

Yeah.

Yeah, that was awful.

Anyways, I don't know

what got us onto that.

I don't know what got us onto that.

But this is episode 30, by the way.

30.

Yeah.

We never even thought we would do

something like this.

And now we're on episode 30.

Not that that's like a

milestone of any sort.

But I mean, I just--

I wasn't even sure we'd get to episode 4,

to be honest with you.

Yeah.

Well, I kind of feel like we should have

a cake or something.

We don't.

Well, our daughter is making a cake.

She is.

By the way, first time--

I cannot believe-- one

of my favorite cakes.

OK, everybody-- favorite cakes.

Favorite cakes.

Chocolate lava cake

probably takes it for me.

But I don't know if you've ever made a

chocolate lava cake.

No, I have not made a

chocolate lava cake.

I'd have moist cake.

It's so good.

But last weekend,

Megan, for the first time,

which surprised the heck out of me,

because one of my favorites--

it's my top two.

Probably was my top

one when I was a kid--

is angel food cake.

It's my grandfather's favorite cake too.

And our kids hadn't

had it until last week.

I had not made angel

food cake in 15 years.

15.

I'm an angel food cake man.

I used to make it when

it was just you and I.

So you've had angel food cake with me.

Right.

What are you even doing?

I don't know.

Birth and babies

working, going to soccer games,

the regular stuff.

Angel food cakes, I guess.

Clearly not making angel food cake.

Angel food cake did not

make it to the top of the list.

I made lots of other kinds of cakes.

We had it.

You did the sugar--

whatever those are

called-- but the strawberries.

Yeah, to make the

strawberry compote kind of a thing

that gets poured over it.

And the kids ate it up.

It didn't even last 24 hours.

No, it didn't.

It was super good.

And they're making another

one right now for tonight.

Yeah.

So that's exciting.

But that'll be our cake

to celebrate 30 episodes.

There we go.

Yeah, it's a good one.

Yeah, I don't know why.

It's just a round number.

That's why it stuck out to me, I guess.

Yeah.

I'll bring it up

again when we get to 100.

I might need to do

something a little fier.

Actually, 52 will be a year.

A year.

So--

I might need to do

something fancier than an angel food

cake or something.

Might have to.

I don't know.

You usually like an ice cream cake.

I do.

So it's tough because in this family--

and again, I don't know how the other

families are out there,

but everybody's different

with their favorite desserts.

You are a cake dessert person.

I love cake.

Your family's big into pies.

You guys have lots of

pies at Thanksgiving.

And we did two growing up.

I'm not a fan of pies.

Yeah, you've never been.

I'll take a spoon of a pie, but I don't

want a whole slice of pie.

I just don't like pie that much.

It's not that fantastic.

But you grow up with pies and cake.

Cake is your favorite by far, right?

Cake and cookies.

Yeah.

I don't know.

Probably cake, maybe a

little bit more than cookies.

Top cookie?

Oatmeal chocolate chip.

Oh my god.

I cannot believe you

said oatmeal chocolate chip.

Seriously?

The only thing that

could have made that worse

is oatmeal raisin.

Oh, I don't like oatmeal raisin.

Yeah.

I don't like raisins.

That's an interesting answer.

A good oatmeal chocolate chip cookie.

Do you like oatmeal?

I've never seen you eat oatmeal.

I mean, yeah, I like oatmeal.

You just like oatmeal

in sugarized cookie form.

Extra sugarized cookie form.

Isn't that what you're--

Yeah.

No, I mean, I do like a

good chocolate chip cookie.

But I don't like it

with semi-sweet chocolate.

I like it with milk chocolate.

Yeah.

Milk chocolate.

You just got me thinking, because there's

different milk chocolate, I

guess, semi-sweet, which--

you know what I'd like to do?

What?

Because I have a taste test of--

let's have different types

of chocolate chip cookies.

My favorite is double chocolate chip.

So I like chocolate chocolate chip.

Yeah.

But I would like to know the difference.

I'd like to be able to

taste the difference,

see if I could taste the

difference between a milk

chocolate, chocolate

chip, whatever, semi-sweet.

Is that what you called it?

Yeah.

Because I didn't really realize until now

that there's a difference there.

And dark chocolate.

Because I just did a morning cereal.

I'm not plugging-- I feel like I talked

about morning cereal

almost every episode.

But I'm not plugging it.

It's just things come up on that one.

But it was National Chocolate Chip Day,

like last week at some point in time.

It was, yeah.

We were talking about

Obama's favorite chip.

He liked dark chocolate in

his chocolate chip cookies.

Yeah.

So anyways, I'd like to try that.

Yeah, OK.

At some point in time, just

to see if I could taste it.

Because maybe dark

chocolate is the way to go for me.

I just love it.

Yeah.

And then I will let you eat all of those

cookies by yourself.

I don't know.

I have to do a

separate batch and all that.

It's OK.

Then you'd get an entire

batch of cookies all to yourself.

Maybe fill a cookie jar with them.

Yeah, obviously.

I don't know.

OK, so now that I'm

thinking about cookies,

my great-grandmother's

recipe for sugar cookies, cutouts

that we do at Christmas time, and then I

do the cookie icing on them.

Yeah.

Those are really good.

My grandmother and I sure yours did too.

That's one thing I really

remember about Christmas time

when I was growing up is

we'd go over to my mother's

grandparents' house, or

my mother's parents' house.

Yeah.

That's how the grandparents' house,

because they lived in

the same city as us.

And all the aunts and uncles

on that side were there too.

And they would, like I said, they

would bring lots of different pies,

lots of different pies there.

And I can't even remember

what my favorite one was,

but there was lots of different pies.

And they would do pumpkin

rolls and stuff like that.

But there were so many desserts.

But my grandmother would make--

and maybe my aunts helped on it too.

I'm not sure who made them all.

But the best, like candies and cookies.

Like they'd make homemade candies,

like the hard candy

that you used to make.

Oh, wow.

They'd make that toffee.

They would make those cookies.

I don't even know

what the bottom of it is.

But then you put a

Hershey's Kiss on the top of them.

I would eat around the Hershey's Kiss

and then pop a little bit of cookie.

100%.

Is that how you're supposed to eat those?

That's how I always ate them.

Good to know.

You don't eat them that way.

I think you're eating them wrong.

Granted, I don't think it

comes with instructions.

But yeah, my grandma always had those.

So the snail cookie jar, which is

infamous in my family.

Never in all the

years that she was alive,

that we walked to the

Earth at the same time,

was that cookie jar not full.

I've eaten from that cookie jar.

Yes, you have.

And it was--

Many a cookie.

Many, many.

And it didn't have a bottom.

It was like Santa's bag.

So somehow in the middle of the night,

the cookies could be gone.

We'd go to bed.

And then the next morning,

it's full of cookies again.

My grandma always had

extra cookies in the freezer.

Anyway, but yeah, we

had the peanut butter

kind with the chocolate chip.

Then she always made

the sugar cookies as well.

It was her mom's recipe.

And we've just passed it down.

That generation did

such a good job of just--

they made the best.

They baked.

They were such good bakers.

Yes.

Right?

Baking.

Yeah.

And what's cool is that

over the last two years now,

I've been able to teach

our daughter the recipe

that my great-grandmother had that's

been passed down through the generation.

So that, to me, is super special.

Yeah.

I wonder how much

different it is than my mom,

because my mom makes those things too.

We would ice those.

It's got to be a similar recipe, right?

Similar.

Do you have a secret ingredient?

I don't know.

Yeah, it's got to be similar.

On the other side of my other grandmother

made sugar cookies too,

but they did taste different.

Something was different.

I don't know if she

used nutmeg or something.

I can't remember.

But they do taste different.

Or if you buy them at a cookie store,

they taste different than the ones that--

Yeah, probably mayonnaise.

I know that one cooked with

a lot of mayo, a mayonnaise.

My other grandma did.

All the time.

That was a secret

ingredient in everything.

It's funny.

She was a great cook.

Yeah.

Anyway.

Well, where are we at?

What do we got going on?

I mean, we've just--

we've talked about

nothing for 27 minutes here.

I know.

We just talked about

our favorite cookies.

OK, so you had a fun week,

because you, for the first time,

you got to go golfing.

Oh my gosh.

Yeah, that was crazy.

Yeah, we can't forget this.

I think that was surprising.

I felt bad.

I put a little thing

up on Instagram for it.

But my oldest son and I went

golfing for the first time.

Now, he's been

showing some interest in it,

just kind of hitting in the

backyard with some soft golf

balls, but with my clubs.

And then we all went to--

I took all the kids to a driving range,

and they all hit off there.

Because they all like top golf.

That's kind of where it started, right?

Top golf.

What a great idea.

Top golf.

Then they wanted to go--

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Then we went to the

driving range, which was fun.

But for, I think, the two younger ones,

I think that got old really quick,

if anybody's ever

been to a driving range.

That got really old really quick.

But they loved lunch

afterwards at the golf course.

Whatever lunch you

bought them afterward, I still

hear about how great that lunch is,

and that we need to go back there.

Well, that's the 19th hole

to some degree for youngsters.

And that's a great time.

Anyways, oldest wanted

to go play real golf,

and he has not been

on a golf course ever.

And the funny thing is, I

was never a good golfer.

I golfed a lot early in my career.

Bankers, I think,

used to golf quite a bit.

Oh, for sure.

I think professionals

used to golf quite a bit.

But in 24 years in

banking, that kind of subsided.

There wasn't enough time to golf anymore.

It was kind of a lost art, at

least in my sector of banking.

We didn't golf much anymore.

So I didn't get to golf much.

But while I was golfing,

when we were in Chicago,

I golfed at some of the

most incredible courses.

Michael Jordan was a

member at one or two of them.

I saw his locker in the locker room,

because it's memberships.

I played on a bunch of

PGA ones, Firestone and BMW,

and just some incredible Kohler--

some incredible golf courses up there.

But I was never good.

And I'll never forget-- and I've told

anybody who knows me,

knows this story.

But I'll never forget I

was golfing with a client.

And I don't even know

what they were talking about.

It might have been a

prospect at the time.

But it was a championship course.

And it was eating me up.

It was a hard course.

And he was a good golfer.

And he put his arm around me.

And I was still young.

I was probably early 30s, right?

And he was like, Sean, if

you're going to be a banker,

you've got to learn to golf.

I was like, I'm not that bad at him.

Apparently I was.

Yeah.

So all this just to say, I've not--

I haven't golfed in eight years probably.

So I'm not a golfer.

I love the game.

It's a fun game.

You get outside.

The courses are beautiful.

There's some of the old gentlemen rules

to it that are just nice.

You dress up for it.

And then a drink at the

end or whatever it is.

It's fun.

It's an experience if you do it right.

With the right people,

it can be a great time.

But it's a huge time commitment.

And that's the reason

we haven't golfed, right?

Because you've golfed a couple of times.

I have.

It's fun.

You do it with your work

colleagues a couple of times.

Yeah.

That's more of a--

Have you golfed more than five times?

No.

I bet--

Like an actual 18 hole.

Yeah, no, no, no.

I've probably golfed four times.

Most five.

Yeah.

There was one time with my

family in the Finger Lakes.

I remember that one.

It was like almost your first time.

That was my first time.

It was your first time.

And you actually did pretty well.

Like it was-- it's fun.

It's just-- and then all of the charity--

I've done some charity

golf events through work.

And that's Best Ball,

which is more my style.

Because every now and

again, I'll hit a good one.

Like where you're like, oh, wow, OK.

But most of the time, it's--

Best Ball sounds like a lot of fun.

There's a lot of guys that--

I mean, some guys that--

I mean, most guys that play

golf take it very serious.

They've got handicaps

and all that kind of stuff.

And I'm not like that.

Best Ball sounds fantastic to

me because every now and then,

I'm going to hit a great shot.

Most of the time, I'm not probably.

So it's like, if you

seriously want to play--

ah, dang, I want to play, but I don't

want to play with you.

Right, right.

I'll tell you another

story about that in a minute.

But so anyways, our oldest

and I, we went to a par three

because that's the best

place to start, right?

It's all irons, which

are the easiest to hit.

You're not using your driver.

So we got out there.

And man, he hit it really well.

I was really, really

impressed with how well

he played it for his first time.

And halfway through,

we got a little pressed

because people in front of us

were super slow, which backed

people up behind-- which backed us up and

the people behind us

up.

And so then there was pressure.

And that, it's never fun

on any golf course, right?

Frankly, in any sport, in any--

no one wants to be

pressured by someone else to.

Well, not when you're learning.

And that's why you're on a

par three at literally 6.59

tee time on a Thursday morning.

So we were trying to miss the crowd,

if there was ever a crowd

to miss, on a par three.

Not a great course.

But I had a blast.

I think he had a blast.

It was a father-son

experience that I was really

trying to enjoy.

I took five pictures.

Not that I'm a

picture freak, but I really

was just trying to

soak it in and enjoy it.

And I think he enjoyed it.

And I was really, like I said, impressed.

He's got a nice swing.

I just wish we had more

time for it because the chaos

train that we talk about, there's not

five hours anywhere.

No.

There's not even 2 and

1,5 hours to play at nine.

No.

I mean, you get 30

minutes max here and there.

You might be able to cobble together

2 and 1,5 hours of free time in a week.

Yeah.

But--

Yeah.

In succession?

Like, no.

But that's what I hope we all can do.

I hope our whole family

can learn how to do it,

because that's a great fun family event.

It is.

You know what I mean?

Just to get everybody out

there, if you can take the time.

I know my mom and her siblings and her

mom still gets out there.

Yeah.

They still golf.

They play the best ball.

Yeah.

So it's fun.

But I mean, they're

just out there having fun,

getting in trouble.

Some of actually my happy--

again, I've only golfed max five times.

I really think it's four.

But I would drive the car for you

when we lived in Las Vegas.

And your grandparents would come to a

little town north of Las

Vegas.

There was a golf--

Mesquite.

Maybe it's not a little town.

I don't know.

I think it's little.

It used to be.

You know, but they used to golf there.

And so we would drive up to Mesquite.

And you would play.

And I'd drive the cart.

And that was so much fun.

I played with my

grandfather and my grandmother.

My grandfather was still alive.

And that was some of my

most precious moments.

For those of you who

don't know, my grandfather

was a Baptist preacher.

And the only time we always joked,

the only time we ever heard

him talk was behind the pulpit.

He was very quiet.

Very quiet.

But he was a soul, just

someone I just really, really

looked up to.

He was a kind soul.

He was--

Who's a gentle soul?

Just gentle.

He was a gentle giant.

I mean, the guy had a chest

that was just barrel chested.

He was in the Navy.

He flew a plane.

He had a private plane for a while.

He still-- you know, that was

the plane I was in a crash in.

He crash landed it successfully.

That was my grandfather.

But growing up, I never

talked to him, really,

because he was always--

because his sons were there, and they

were running the church.

And it was a Christian school, too.

And he was busy doing

that or getting ready for us.

So he and I never had a lot of time.

But when we got older, you and I, that

was one-on-one time.

Just you, me, my

grandfather, my grandmother,

we would go to the buffet.

They loved the buffet up there.

And they would just tell us stories

about when they were

younger and this and that.

I hate that I have a terrible memory,

because, again, you should

write those things down for me

or read together for Cordo somehow.

But those were incredible times just

to hear my grandfather talk, because he

never spoke like that.

And it wasn't like

his kids weren't around,

because that family was always together.

Always.

So us to have that one-on-one time was

just so rare and very,

very special.

I remember sitting

there, whether it was after

or even in the morning, there were a

couple of breakfasts

that we had.

And just sitting there drinking coffee,

listening to their

stories, it was fantastic.

I'm sure I annoyed him with

how bad I was at golf, though.

To give everybody perspective, par 72,

my goal is hit a 5 on every hole,

whether it's a par 3 or par 5.

My goal is to average 5.

So that gives you an idea where I'm at.

If I'm hitting a 90 or a 95, I'm happy.

That's good.

I'm good.

So if you want to invite me out, which I

know a couple people

have, we have a friend

that's on our youngest soccer

team, he invited me to go

golfing a couple of months

ago.

And we never got a chance to do it

because you're knee.

So I had to drive you to PT.

There's a lot of

extenuating circumstances.

We just couldn't make it happen.

But it was one of those

things where I was like,

I really want to because it'd

be great to spend time with you

and hang out and do all that.

But I don't want to

make people upset with me

when I'm not a good

golfer because somebody else,

when I put that reel up,

someone else has reached out to me

on Instagram and was like, hey, Sean,

I didn't know you were a golfer.

Like, wow.

I do.

I like to golf.

I love to golf.

And I would love to go golf.

I'll go golf with anybody, but just know

I'm not going to be great.

He's asking for people

to invite him to golf.

Is that what I'm doing?

I don't think so.

I just thought it'd be funny.

I got a lot of extra time on my hands.

Let's do some--

Yeah.

Get back out there.

You have a ton of

extra time on your hands.

Like, really?

That's funny.

It is fun.

Like, it's just a good--

it's good to spend time.

It's something you can do as you get

older because it's less

strenuous than you want.

But with the right people, it's fun.

Because I've been in

groups that wasn't fun at all.

I'm like, I don't want to be here.

This is not fun.

But with the right people, it's a blast.

And with your own core family like that,

like, as we can grow older and they get

their spouses and whatnot

to make that at outings and do that, I

think that would be so much fun.

It would be fun.

To be able to do at some point.

But it's one of our to-do lists.

Put it on the to-do list.

That to-do list is growing longer.

After learning Spanish,

learning to play piano.

Yeah.

A little more time with golf.

Get it on there.

Yeah.

Uh-huh.

I got to learn how to drive a yot.

Yeah.

That actually should beat

some of the others in priority

because if we're

going to retire to a yot--

That's right.

Which in my mind, I've totally designated

a yot as different than a yacht.

Yeah, that's right.

You know?

Whether that's how it was meant.

A yot is a small yacht, right?

Cross between a yacht and a boat.

Yeah.

Even though that's not--

Well, it's less uppity, too.

Except no one's going to

know what we're saying.

That's OK.

We just got the yot.

We're going to hang out on the yot.

They're saying "boat"?

I don't know what to say.

Is it "boat" or what?

It's all right.

Yot.

I remember most of the tour guides

that we had and their names.

That one I--

It might have been Billy.

Yeah.

We still talk about Giannis.

Yeah.

Actually passed his name along to

somebody else that was going.

I love it.

I hope he got the business.

I hope he did, too.

He never texted me.

I should have told him.

I should have texted him back.

Did we ever get the recipe for Milk Pie?

What's app?

He watched App Dust.

All that stuff he would.

He said he would.

That's awesome.

I don't know what Milk Pie

is, but in Greece, apparently,

it's this thing that is really good?

[LAUGHTER]

I don't know.

Sold.

Giannis made it sound amazing.

I mean, he didn't go into description,

but he's like, oh my gosh, my kids

devour this Milk Pie.

He didn't sell it to me.

I was like, Milk Pie?

He lost me at Milk Pie.

Nothing about that goes together for me.

Anyway, I have to look up that.

Well, school starts this week.

I know it will have

started two days, three days ago

when this comes out, but--

Yeah.

So hopefully we made it.

The drama around when

the schedules are released,

that is either, at least in our house,

either a day of

celebration or a day where it's just

like plain old crying

and everything is bad.

And we had a bit of a

mixture of both this year.

One child got the

schedule that she wanted.

One didn't.

And one's like, OK.

So I was like, I dealt with

quite a bit of drama that day.

Is that different than we--

because we did get--

is that different than when we grew up?

I don't remember if we got ours the first

day when we arrived.

I feel like we got ours the first day.

I feel like it is, too.

And then-- because I

remember going to every class,

being like, OK, where am I going?

And who's in this class?

Yes.

Yeah.

It wasn't-- because things

at times were different there.

We could have just beeped each other,

faxed each other our schedules.

But not everybody had--

you just didn't

communicate the same way you did now.

Right.

At that point here.

So I don't think we had

them till we got to school.

Yeah.

Or they mailed them to us

and we got it the day before.

I don't know.

I don't even remember.

I doubt they mailed them.

I don't remember how it was either.

But I do remember just being

excited the first day of school

just to see--

Just to see.

Who was in my classes.

Yeah.

Talked about that last week a little bit.

Yeah.

And now it's, mom, text this person.

Mom, who has this person, you know?

Yeah.

Now that the older two,

they text their own friends.

But oh my gosh.

It was just too much.

And I'm like--

It's too much.

Go back to the old way.

Again, that's another thing.

We're getting old.

I'm going back to the old ways.

I'm going back to the old way.

Yeah, because it's like, how do you--

they get really excited or

really upset about a teacher

that they got.

And it's like, you don't even know if

they're good or bad.

Yeah.

Or you heard they're bad.

So our youngest in fourth grade, I

will never forget being

at Dick's Sporting Goods,

shopping back to school shopping.

And I got the call.

And because our youngest was like,

I will be happy as long as

I don't get that teacher.

Get the call.

And I was like, well,

hi, that teacher's name.

And he started bawling in

the shoe section of Dick's

Sporting Goods.

I'm never going to school.

Turned out--

What was it?

Turned out.

It was his favorite teacher.

Yeah, right.

I remember that, though.

That was interesting.

We were still working on

emotions, managing emotions.

Yeah.

I had a similar-- he

had a similar reaction

to a teacher that he got this year.

I know.

Well, we're getting close on time here.

And I want to make sure

we don't leave this episode

without your big news.

You got an all clear?

I got the all clear.

I get to go ahead and live my life

according to my surgeon.

Except I can't play tackle football.

That's such a good one.

Except, unfortunately-- and

here's the bad part of it.

Just the bad part.

My tackle football days are behind me,

as though they were ever in front of me,

just for the record.

Or beside you.

Or beside me.

Or with you.

Yeah.

They were never even with me.

That's right.

But your surgeon, you

had your six months--

what has it been, six months?

Six months in surgery.

So it was six months in

surgery this last week.

And you got the all clear.

He was very happy with your progress.

I think he said that

he was very impressed.

Yeah.

And I felt really good about that.

That's right.

So yeah, this weekend, I

was jumping off the high thing

in our pool and everything.

Yeah, I was surprised.

You definitely took it to

heart because you got up

on the grotto in the pool

and you're jumping off of it.

You wanted to go down the

slide, but we didn't blow it up.

We didn't blow it up.

But that's OK.

That's good.

The more things that I

can do and jump into,

the more normal I'm going to feel.

And I just want to not

ever think about it again.

What a journey for you.

And a lot of it was just--

I mean, gosh, it's hard to

believe it's been that long

and that you've been through the process.

PT is dedication.

I don't know that

everybody does it that way,

but you're a rule follower.

And you never missed PT.

You never missed your PT at

home, your homework for PT.

And maybe this is just what happens when

you do it the right way.

But I mean, you're almost--

I mean, you're

basically 100% at this point.

And honestly, we haven't

really thought about it

for two or three

months, which is incredible.

I do.

I still feel it.

And I look forward to the

day that I don't feel it.

But PT, for me,

honestly, it was so mental.

It gave me confidence.

She's like, OK, today we're

going to work on bounding,

which I can bound.

And had I not gone to PT for six months,

I would have never

been like, can I do that?

Can I not?

Working on lateral movements.

And well, if my PT said I

could do it, then I can do it.

Yeah, you can snag a big

old rebound off the board,

like the round mound of rebound.

Heck yeah.

But he did a lot of bounding.

Anyways, that's why

every time you say bound,

I think of mound, which makes

me think of Charles Barkley,

the round mound of rebound.

Now I'm thinking about you

just snagging one-handed rebounds

off the backboard.

That was so Dr. Seuss of you.

That was great.

And I didn't stutter on it.

No, that was amazing.

Amazing, yeah.

So that's great.

Congratulations.

Good for you.

And I think even more

so to say that you've

moved past it

mentally, I mean, we brought up

the three-letter word--

maybe it's more of a

six-letter word-- in the pool today,

though.

Yeah.

And--

That word is?

Ski.

I plan to ski again.

Yeah.

I mean, mentally, you've

got your head wrapped around.

We're going to go skiing again this fall.

Which I'm not suggesting you

were ever scared to go back

on it, because it was kind

of a fluke that you did it.

But I mean, you're only six,

seven months out from that.

And there's a lot of

trauma and a lot of hard work

to get back to this

point to be immediately--

after getting the

green light-- to say, hey,

I think I'm ready to

get back on the slopes.

I think that speaks a lot

to your courage, your will

to get back out there, which is huge.

Well, and the desire

to be with my family.

I'm not going to stop my

family from doing something

that we have always said

we love to do together.

Because I'm scared.

If I'm being honest

with myself, I'm scared.

The second I am at the

top of that chair lift,

I'm going to be scared.

You get pushed a lot in

this family to do things

that you're scared of.

But I think that's good, because our kids

are a little bit more

tired of taking chances and being a

little more risk takers.

And we pull you along

with this, which is good.

But you know that you can

always do what you want to do.

Because this was your chance

to buy some big furry boots,

a lot of fur, and some

white, and sit in the lodge

and sip champagne.

Yes, that was-- which

might sound good some days.

But for the most part,

knowing what you would--

yeah, I don't--

a bit more per second.

But anyway, I'd be

missing out on so much.

And it's like, I'm

not willing to do that.

And I also have to say,

I skied for 40 years, 4-0

without ever getting hurt.

What's to say that I

can't ski for another 40

without ever getting hurt?

Yeah.

And we don't want to blame the binding.

But the binding never gave on you.

It didn't.

You didn't go down, because

the binding didn't give out.

It didn't give out.

There was a couple of extenuating

circumstances there.

And it was just kind of freak.

Yeah.

So anyway, it'll be--

but we might be back on the slopes.

We'll be back on the slopes.

Exciting.

The kids are super excited about that.

Yeah.

I know that for a fact.

Yeah.

So anyway--

All right, well, we should wrap this.

We should.

All right, should we--

should we think of our word?

We should think of our word.

And now this word, again, is

going to summarize this last

week, right?

This week, yes.

Look at that.

We both give that big sigh.

It's the sigh.

All right, I'm ready.

OK.

Ready, here we go.

One, two, three.

Logistics.

Let's just say bobsled.

It should have been a better word.

Yeah.

And I'll stay Constantinople next time.

Well, bobsled, because last week was--

you know when you watch bobsled, and you

got a three-man team,

and everybody's running.

Right now, we're running.

We're at the top.

We're running, running, running.

And this week, now that--

because we're running schools--

soccer's back in, track's back in,

we're going to add school back in.

Everything's going to get back in now.

Full schedule.

We're going to be--

all of us are in that bobsled.

We're in the bobsled.

And now we're going to be full, full of

steam down the hill.

Yeah.

I know.

Does that paint a picture?

It does.

Yeah.

It's making bobsled.

Even better than logistics and progress.

It's a great picture.

Yeah.

We're hopping in.

Hopping in.

All right.

Well, let's bound out.

That was bad.

Let's jump out.

I like the bound out.

We don't want to fall out.

Hop out.

We can hop out.

All right.

Let's just say goodbye.

That's too bad.

All right.

Have a great week.

Good luck back to school.

Thanks for--

Don't tell.

Oh, I was going to say thanks for coming

and letting me say it.

Oh, OK.

You stepped on me.

Say-- tell everybody

thanks for joining me.

And then we'll do it.

Now?

Yeah, now.

Thanks for--

See?

Oh.

[LAUGHTER]

See how that feels?

I'm really sorry.

I'm just scared.

[LAUGHTER]

That means it's interrupting.

All right.

Thanks for tuning in, everybody.

Thanks for joining.

Now?

When you're ready.

Ciao, ciao.

See you.

Bye.

More episodes

Chapters

What is Mr. & Mrs. Inglis?