Better Together with Kosta Yepifantsev

Join Kosta and his guest: Lisa Garcia, Owner of Cleanse Wellness Spa, National Board Certified Health and Wellness Coach, National Board Credentialed Colon Hydrotherapist and a Certified Electro Lymphatic Therapist from California Coastal Cleansing Institute in San Diego.

In this episode: More than 80% of our immune system is in the gut, and when your gut isn't healthy, your immune system and hormones can’t function properly. In your experience, what are the real life consequences of having a poorly managed digestive system? When it comes to anything related to the colon, rectum or butt in general people can feel a bit skittish. (No pun intended.) For anyone that’s feeling anxiety about how the insertion or evacuation process works, smells or feels. What’s your advice? On a day-to-day basis what benefits do your regular customers see from Colon Hydrotherapy and how has it improved their lives?

Find out more about Lisa Garcia and Cleanse Wellness Spa:
https://cleansewellnessspa.com

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Lisa Garcia: Our body doesn't
know the difference between

being in a carpool lane late to
pick up our kid and being

charged by the daycare or being
in trouble with a teacher or us

being chased by a lion. It has
no it does not discriminate on

it doesn't know the difference.

It doesn't care. It's going to
put you in that fight or flight

who just stops your digestion so
that your energy can go to your

arms and legs and you can fight.

Morgan Franklin: Welcome to
Better Together with Kosta

Yepifantsev, a podcast on
parenting business and living

life intentionally. We're here
every week to bring you

thoughtful conversation, making
your own path to success,

challenging the status quo, and
finding all the ways we're

better together. Here's your
host, Kosta Yepifantsev.

Kosta Yepifantsev: Hey y'all,
it's Kosta. Today I'm here with

my guest, Lisa Garcia, owner of
Cleanse Wellness Spa, National

Board Certified Health and
Wellness Coach, national board

credentialed colon
hydrotherapist and a certified

electrical lymphatic therapist
from California Coastal

cleansing Institute in San
Diego, Lisa, more than 80% of

our immune system is in the gut.

And when your gut isn't healthy,
your immune system and hormones

can't function properly. In your
experience, what are the real

life consequences of having a
poorly managed digestive system?

Lisa Garcia: So Kosta - I'm I'm
looking at so many different, a

myriad of health issues, right?

So nutritional deficiencies is a
huge one. So it's not absorbing

your guts not absorbing
nutrients properly. And so that

malabsorption is causing all
kinds of problems because the

essential vitamins and minerals
and nutrients are not getting

where they need to be. And so
that causes fatigue, it causes a

weakened immune system, which
our immune system is, it's our

number one fan is what it is,
and it's supposed to keep us

healthy. But with an imbalanced
gut and nutritional

deficiencies. We already have
compromised food, right? So

already our food is not
nutritious, but when you eat

anything, any vitamins and
minerals have gotta go where

they need to be in your gut. And
so that's one of the biggest

things. So the weakened immune
systems if the fatigue and of

course, it impairs growth of
stem cells and other things in

your body. That's a big one,
digestive disorders. They're

huge. They're running rampant.

Everyone has reflux that
gastrointestinal, you know,

disorder, GERD, irritable bowel
syndrome, IBS, almost all of my

clients have some sort of IBS
symptoms. There's inflammatory

bowel disease, like Crohn's and
Ulcerative Colitis. And that is

very dangerous, can cause leaky
gut as well. So that's when the

poisons are coming through,
right? So the blood is not clean

anymore, because the mucosal
membrane of the colon is not

doing its job. So

Kosta Yepifantsev: is there a
hole in the colon essentially,

that causes leaky gut, like I've
always heard that term, but I've

always wondered what it was.

It's

Lisa Garcia: not a whole, it's
more like little tears. Okay, so

our mucosal melt membrane in our
colon is very, very thick, and

it's got a thick layer of mucus
that's supposed to protect us

from all of the poisons and
toxins because our colon is the

most toxic place in our body.

When our gut is compromised.

That mucosal membrane can thin
out and little tears can present

themselves, and toxins can
escape into our bloodstream

through the colon. And that's
leaky gut, and that can cause a

whole host of other problems.

Kosta Yepifantsev: Why do more
people not know that a proper

diet is going to affect their
overall quality of life? Like

why do people just focus on
exercise myself being one of

them, and not necessarily
focusing on eating the right

things?

Lisa Garcia: I feel like people
think that they can get away

with it. Okay, like, that's
really I feel like, I think that

they can get away with it. And I
feel like it used to be at 8020

was, you know, pretty, okay. 80%
of the time you're eating

balanced meals, you're you're
not shoving food down your

throat without chewing properly.

You're not eating right before
you go to bed and snacking,

people that are health conscious
for people that want to feel

better. They were doing those
things. But people are so busy

now and the quality of food that
they have at their fingertips is

so compromised. And even organic
things can't really be trusted

to have A lot of organic
ingredients, but only a portion.

So I feel like more people are
just thinking that they can get

away with it. They're thinking,
Well, you know, I had a couple

of salads this week. And they
don't realize that all the

animal products are so hard to
digest. And I'm not saying that

you can't digest them. I'm
saying that it's harder to

digest. A true carnivore has a
digestive system from mouth to

anus of nine feet. And small
intestine by itself is 23 feet

or colon six feet, it doesn't
even count the esophagus. And so

people are gulping their food
down and expecting our body to

do miracles. And our bodies are
miraculous, but they can only do

Kosta Yepifantsev: and I'll be
honest, I mean, the last few

months, especially I've noticed
myself getting tired, if if I

don't get all eight hours of
sleep, I'm exhausted. And I

exercise daily, you know, I'm
running a lot, usually about six

miles a day. And I'm trying to
do intermittent fasting. But

because I've been so busy, I've
been eating late, like sometimes

at 11 o'clock at night, just
because I'm so hungry, and I

need something in my stomach
before I fall asleep. And I wake

up the next day, and I feel bad.

So what happens when you eat
late, and then you go straight

to bed.

Lisa Garcia: So if you eat
within two to three hours of

going to bed, your digestion is
slow. So it's supposed to be

slow, based on the rhythm of our
bodies. In a perfect world, you

should be asleep by 10 o'clock
PM, that's what your body is

meant to do. So you shouldn't be
eating past six or seven,

because it goes into a rest and
digest mode. And then that rest

and digest mode. It's a repair
mode. So if you fill your body

with food, and expect it to
mitigate that food and digest

that food at the same as in the
middle of the day, it's not

going to do that. So when you
wake up, you're essentially

still digesting food, and you
didn't get any repair work done

at all. Really?

Kosta Yepifantsev: Yes. Okay. So
see, these are all things that I

don't know, because I think I'm
doing everything right. I think

I'm getting eight hours of
sleep. I think I'm working a

lot. I think I'm exercising
regularly. So you know, I should

be fit as a fiddle. And but my
body is still performing

relatively well. You know, I
mean, granted, maybe I'm 34. So

I'm sure it probably still has a
little bit of runway. But what

happens long term, if you don't
follow those types of

guidelines, you know, if you go
to sleep super late, it's not

just focusing on a diet, but
just generally don't diet at

all, what's your body going to
do when you turn 65? Way before

Lisa Garcia: 65, you're going to
start getting low level

inflammation in your body, and
your body is going to fight

back, it's going to fight
against itself. That's why so

many people have autoimmune
conditions right now. And

there's a whole host of them. We
have been told in our family,

from our grandparents that
you're supposed to eat

breakfast, like a king and lunch
like a queen and dinner like a

poor person. And that's really
true. So we should not be eating

our heaviest meal. And we don't
need three meals a day, by the

way. I mean, my grandparents
were eating three meals a day,

because that's what they were
trained to do. But in reality,

if you study the Blue Zones
book, which is you know, gut

health was the number one thing
that everybody had in common in

that book. So from wherever they
were from, whether they were

Eskimos that had no vegetation,
and they only ate fish and seal

or whatever they were in Italy,
certain places in Italy, they

would eat fish, and some people
wouldn't they would you see

pasta and cheese, but based on
their DNA and where they were

from the indigenous people,
their gut health was perfect.

And that's how they were so
healthy for so many more years

than we are. So it is not
necessary for us to even eat

close to three meals a day. How
many meals are you supposed to

eat? I believe it's really
healthy to do a variation of

intermittent fasting, okay, it
depends on what you're doing. So

if you're doing an 18 hour fast,
you could probably do lunch and

a light dinner. If you're doing
a 12 hour fast, you could do

three meals that they should be
small. Then there's the ADF

fasting that I've talked about
which alternate day fasting,

which is really great for
fighting disease, inflammation

in the body, rejuvenate stem
cells. 36 hour fasts are amazing

as well. You know, a 36 hour
fast is like the premium

fasting, if you could do one of
those a week along with some

different intermittent fasting,
I feel like you would really

supercharge your body because
you're giving your body a chance

to repair it cannot be in a
repair mode and digest food at

the same time. It won't do that.

Kosta Yepifantsev: And it's like
a car. If you drive your car 24

hours a day, seven days a week,
every minute of every day,

eventually the car is going to
blow up and our digestion is no

different. So if we just keep
feeding ourselves, you know,

over and over and over again.

It's going to have negative
negative implications on our

health.

Lisa Garcia: It does and
actually putting that much

strain on our body has been
linked to so many things

dementia, any type of low level
inflammation, like I said before

autoimmune diseases obesity and
Anyone is so sick. I mean, in a

country where we have so much
food at our disposal, people are

eating nonstop. 24 hours a day,
gas station food, fast food. And

we're really not supposed to be
doing that. We're supposed to be

giving our body a break. We're
supposed to be eating like

handful our stomach is like the
size of our fist. So the fact

that we sit down and meet at
Texas Roadhouse, first of all,

we're gonna it's an appetizer of
some fried onion. And I'm like,

Oh, my gosh, and help, please
no. And then I just ate with my

daughter's in laws recently. And
I was like, stop. Oh, yeah, stop

eating for sure. A fried onion,
just big giant fried onion, and

then a big fat piece of steak
with loaded mashed potatoes with

all kinds of pork products on
those. And then of course,

they're drinking two glasses of
sweet tea or coke. And I'm like,

your insulin, your insulin, your
your your pancreas.

Kosta Yepifantsev: Where did
where did we learn this

behavior, though? I mean, my
parents. I mean, they bought

soda. But when I got older, I
was just like, Yeah, I don't

think I should be drinking this
much soda. I don't. It doesn't

make me feel good. And I listen
to my body. So I mean, I'm

assuming that people listen to
how their body is doing just

generally on how they feel. And
they make adjustments.

Lisa Garcia: No, that's what you
do. Because you're smart. And

you're health conscious. People
actually do not do that. They

come to me, and they've got
brain fog and fatigue, and they

don't feel good, and they're
gassy. And they, they have no

idea to what they're eating,
they have no idea that they

don't understand it at all. And
they're super smart people, but

they're always eating on the go.

They're never chewing their
food. I mean, I'm I'm doing

colonics and I'm looking at
whole pieces of food come out of

people. I'm like, so you had
tomatoes and kale, that's good.

I can see a hot dog. It's like
you can see these people what

they're eating. Right now not
long hotdog, but chunks of food

should have been digested by the
stomach, which or not.

Kosta Yepifantsev: And if they
don't get digested by the

stomach, then the nutrients can
be absorbed.

Lisa Garcia: Well, the stomach
is responsible for chemical

digestion. So there's a small
amount of chemical digestion

that goes on in the mouth. So
you've got the proteins, you got

different enzymes in your mouth
that breaks down fats and

sugars. But then you're supposed
to chew your food like 25 times

and nobody's doing that. And
then the food passes along.

Yeah, exactly. Everyone's in a
hurry that the food passes down

the esophagus. It's called a
bolus. And then it goes into

that chemical digestion of the
stomach, which is chyme. And

then it's put through the small
intestine, which is 23 feet

long. There's no bacteria in
there, its only job is to use

the microvilli and absorb
nutrients, nothing is absorbed

nutritionally in the stomach, or
in the colon. It's all done in

the small intestine. So if you
are going your food down hole,

and you've got low stomach acid,
your pH is off. So a lot of

people when they get heartburn,
they don't realize you have low

stomach acid, not too much. Your
body's not pH balanced properly.

So it's it's pushing through
seeing things through the small

intestine. And most of the
things that people are eating

these days have no nutritional
value. I mean, like a McDonald's

cheeseburger, like where's the
nutrition and there's nothing

popcorn is I mean, it depends.

Kosta Yepifantsev: I mean,
that's kind of a go to in our

household. That's why I ask and
I've heard that popcorn doesn't

have any nutritional value, it
just has calories. Well,

Lisa Garcia: it doesn't have
nutritional value. It's an empty

carb, and especially if it's a
genetically modified popcorn,

that's microwave in a microwave
bag, which is so bad for your

health and people are just
eating it. My husband and I we

fist fight over it. I'm like
Tim, that your hands. He's like,

No, I love it. It's butter
lovers. I said you're gonna use

this kind and I bought it the
Amish store. You know the GMO,

non GMO, and they will and I'm
telling you something, I

actually had a woman come in and
get a colonic for me. And it was

like her second or third colonic
and she called me in there. She

was buzzing the buzzer. And I
came in and she goes look at all

that corn. And I said, Well Corn
is Green it. It's got an outer

shell it doesn't really digest
properly. She goes No, I haven't

had corn in two weeks since my
daughter's baby shower. We had a

Mexican corn salad. And I
haven't had corn at all. And she

had already had three colonics
with a ton of waste come out. So

what does that mean? It just
means that her food is not being

properly digested or processed.

The corn is probably stuck in
the diverticulitis, which is the

little ridges inside the colon.

And when that happens, then
you're starting to get

diverticulitis, diverticulosis
and other problems with your

digestion that can cause major
inflammatory bowel problems in

your body. What

Kosta Yepifantsev: are some long
term diseases that come from not

taking care of your body not
taking care of your gut? Well,

Lisa Garcia: of course we know
about Crohn's disease and we

know about what actually
matters. So Crohn's disease is

an inflammatory condition of the
bowel, and it's when the bowel

stays chronically inflamed. And
it's actually really dangerous

because an inflammatory bowel
disease like Crohn's or colitis,

which is another thing
ulcerative colitis, it thins the

wall of the colon. So you're
more apt to need colon removal

surgery so that you will have
part of your colon removed or

that inflammatory part is. And
some people I mean, I met a

woman from Knoxville at 38 years
old, that their doctor, her GI

doctor wanted to put an
ileostomy bag. So they were

removing part of her ilium,
which is the last part of the

small intestine going into that
part of the bowel, right the

beginning of the bowel. And they
sent her to me to get empty,

because she had been on
laxatives for her whole life,

and her colon would not empty on
its own. And they couldn't do

the surgery properly, because
they were afraid that she would

die of sepsis because as soon as
you rip that colon open, and the

waste goes into the bloodstream,
it's over for you mean you die,

you can die very quickly, she
would have rather have had that

than give me a chance to revive
her colon with like 12 colonics,

even though I offered to give it
to her at half price. Why?

Because she wanted to believe in
that medical procedure, that

that would save her life. And
she thought, well, I won't be

constipated anymore. I can just
poop in this bag. And she know

what happened. She never came in
at all. Okay, we have a lot of

phone conversations. And she
never came in

Kosta Yepifantsev: at all. You
don't know if she made it

through the surgery or not. I
don't know. I mean, you can't

live Can you live with half a
colon, you

Lisa Garcia: can live but it's
not going to be a good quality

of life. And it's not going to
be a full long life. It's not

going to be because it continues
to breach. I mean, there are

people that have had partial
parts of their colon removed

from colon cancer. Chris Wark,
he's a big colon cancer

survivor. He has a book in a
coaching program called crispy

cancer, he had stage three colon
cancer at 26 years old. And he

did have surgery to remove, I
believe part of the colon. But

since then he went on a vegan
diet, he didn't do any type of

chemotherapy or anything like
that, or radiation and he is

still surviving, I think it's
almost 20 years later. So he's

got a coaching protocol for
that. And a lot of people are

finding that they're living
longer, because you can't do

medical, colon cancer treatment,
and expect to have a long term

lasting result without making
dietary changes and lifestyle

changes including stress.

Kosta Yepifantsev: So with
regards to colon cancer, and

stomach cancer, I mean, my
father in law had cancer. And

I'm sure he doesn't mind me
sharing this, but he had

radiation and chemotherapy on
his throat, because he had

throat cancer, and he lost. He
lost his tastebuds. And he can't

taste food. So imagine getting
to 72 years old, and not being

able to taste food. And the guy
was a great cook, too. So what

type of overarching impact as
radiation and chemotherapy have

when it's being beamed into your
midsection? Well,

Lisa Garcia: I'll tell you,
people after surviving such a

huge ordeal, the trauma to the
body of having part of your

colon removed, and then having
chemotherapy and then having

radiation. It is not a happy
life after that, and they never

are normal. They're never back
to the way they were. And as far

as your father in law goes,
here's someone that that is a

cook, you said a good cook.

Yeah. And part of our senses,
part of the enjoyment of life

food is to be enjoyed. And like
in our country, we eat it really

fast, and we're cognitive down.

But in other countries, a meal
will take three hours, I mean,

they'll just be there together
and the socialization piece, and

just the community piece in the
fellowship with their family or

friends. And the taste of the
food is a huge deal. Like

they'll spend hours preparing a
meal. And it's a whole, it's a

whole big thing that they do to
get all their senses satisfied,

not just eating to be full and
overly full. So your poor father

in law now has lost that ability
to really taste some of his

favorite things, all of his
favorite things. It's just

napalmed his body. Yeah, and and
I'm glad that he's still alive

in this country, when they ring
the bell, because you're cancer

free after they're doing, you
know, cancer treatment on you.

You're considered a cure, if you
can live after that bell is rung

for five years. But if you die
five years, and a week later,

they still considered you a
cure, and they're gonna check

off that box, that you got
breast cancer, and they cured

you from breast cancer with this
type of chemo, and radiation.

But you'll be dead in the sixth
year. Let's just say they still

cured you.

Kosta Yepifantsev: So we're
talking about all the issues and

the diseases that come from not
taking care of your gut. So

let's change course and talk
about the flip side. How can we

repair our gut and prevent these
types of illnesses? And how does

all of that work?

Lisa Garcia: Well, I want to
make sure that people know that

it's not just a physical
problem. A lot of mental

problems happen because the gut
is imbalanced because of the gut

brain connection that gut brain
access. If things are not being

properly absorbed, then we're
not feeling great. And if we try

to take a Prozac or is involved
or something else to try to fix

that. It's not going to fix it.

So a lot of people are
presenting with depression and

anxiety, especially anxiety. I
have people that come to me and

they're constipated, and they're
very anxious people, very

anxious. And they've had anxiety
disorders and through a series

of colonics for a couple of
years, even, they're completely

medicine free, and they're happy
and they're healthy. And because

they're not constipated, and
they're moving their bowels

properly and things are not in a
dysbiosis state. Now your

question was, how can we take
care of our guts. So number one,

slow down when we're eating, and
be mindful of what you're

eating, and read, be mindful of
what time of the day you're

eating, and don't eat in a
stressed state. Because when

you're in a stressed state, so I
have people that come in to me,

and they eat really well. And
they drink a lot of water, and

they exercise, but they're still
having issues with their

bloating or brain fog, or
constipation, or whatever. And

their problem is that they're
coming in for a colonic, and

they're putting their laptop on
their lap while they're doing

their colonic. And there's
lawyers, I mean, lawyers are the

word, I'm sorry, to my clients
that are lawyers, I'm not gonna

give your name, I'm gonna tell
you, they just they and they

just don't have the ability to
turn off that fight or flight.

So when we are in a stress,
place it our body doesn't know

the difference between being in
a carpool lane, late to pick up

our kid and being charged by the
daycare being in trouble with

the teacher, or us being chased
by a lion. It has no it does not

discriminate on it doesn't know
the difference, it doesn't care,

it's going to put you in that
fight or flight what just stops

your digestion so that your
energy can go to your arms and

legs and you can fight I mean,
that's what it thinks you're

doing. It's you're you're
running away. And so that's why

intermittent fasting is so
amazing as well, because it puts

your body in a state of ease.

It's not, it's not overworking.

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today, because I had a busy day.

And it's just it doesn't feel
the same. I don't feel as

relaxed because I just have all
this. You say not to eat in a

stress state? Well, well, I
mean, like when you're super

busy, you know, you're just kind
of stressed. You know? And and

when you said that I was
thinking to myself, Okay, let's

see, what am I going to eat
today? I guess I'm not going to

eat some stressful

Lisa Garcia: and busy is is the
worst curse word anymore.

Because busy is what's keeping
us from enjoying life. Yeah,

you're absolutely right. Eating
fermented foods is a huge thing.

If you can't eat yogurt, because
you can't eat dairy, then eat

some sauerkraut make your own.

You don't even have to have the
processed stuff at the grocery

store. It's super easy. It's
like salt and cabbage and water.

Okay, or something like I mean,
you can Google it. Yeah, so

fermented foods like kefir,
kombucha, sauerkraut, even

pickles, that really helps the
gut microbiome to reproduce,

especially after any type of
antibiotics. Take a good

probiotic, but take a prebiotic
probiotic that. So you got to

feed the probiotic gotta feed
the good bacteria what they want

to eat, so they can thrive. But
I'm not really into the pill,

you can get anything you need. I
mean, a good probiotic is really

great for people nowadays,
because everyone's eating on the

run, and everyone's eating a lot
of dead food. And so their

enzymes are low, and there's all
kinds of stuff with that. But if

you're eating consciously, if
you're eating purposely, and

stop eating too late, we talked
about that and keep your body

hydrated. And also fiber fiber
fiber fiber, there's no fiber in

a cheeseburger, there's none,
that little piece of lettuce and

that little slice of tomato is
not going to do it for you.

That's why in many countries,
and even here, we're supposed to

eat a salad first. Those are
those natural enzymes that are

kicking our bodies in to help us
digest and break down that food

if we only the carnivore diet.

Where are we getting the and I'm
not saying it's a bad diet.

Everyone's like, oh, I beat
cancer with a camera or diet.

You probably did. That's great.

But that's not for everybody.

Remember, we talked about the
blue zones. So everyone's diet

is not the same. You're from
Russia. So if you've got

grandparents that lived to be
100 years old, what did what did

they eat? What was their
lifestyle? Like?

Kosta Yepifantsev: I mean,
everybody that I can picture in

my family that lived in Russia
were very active because they

couldn't afford a car. So they
had to walk everywhere. Or if

they took the train, it was
like, you know, you get off at

the stop and then you got to go
walk a mile to wherever you're

wherever you're going. Um, but
that's in Germany too. That's

all across Europe and Asia. And
we ate a lot of salted food,

preserved food. We ate a lot of
salt. But nobody was taking like

high blood pressure meds. Yep.

And nobody was suffering from
hypertension. I mean, not like

significantly to the best of my
knowledge. It's just like when

we're talking about this, I'm
trying to think in my mind like,

Okay, well, when am I going to
be able to find time to be able

to do this balanced diet the
right way. So the only thing

that I can assume from from my
vantage point is just fast. Just

don't eat

Lisa Garcia: fast thing is very
good. But when you refuel, make

sure you have something good
because here like you were

saying, the walking right here,
somebody will circle the Walmart

parking lot for 20 minutes to
get that close spot to the door,

right? Instead of just parking
in the back and walking, it

takes two minutes. And why would
you want to shop at Walmart

anyway? I mean, they do have an
organic section. I'm kind of

excited about that. I mean, I'm
from California. So whenever I

can get organic fruits and
vegetables. I like the farmer's

market here. They sell all year
round. We have tower gardens

growing in our downstairs, which
are like hydroponic tower

gardens. I have like so much
kale. My family's like, I'm not

eating all that kale. And I
said, Yes, you are. So we have

to figure out ways to do it. Be
creative. You don't have to, you

know, eat like a bird. Fasting
is amazing. But you're going to

want to keep your strength up
because you do a lot of

exercising, right. So like we
said, if you fail to plan you

plan to fail, what can you put
together for yourself? I mean,

meal planning for someone that's
not overeating can probably take

a couple of hours on a weekend.

If you're a busy baby on a
weeknight, maybe the kids could

help you hey, let's look at some
stuff online and see, what can

you help me with? You know, can
you help me cut the vegetables?

Can you help me make the soup or
whatever it is? Having good food

from your house, that source at
home? That's whole food based.

And not with a bunch of
preservatives, if it's got more

than five ingredients in it, and
you can't pronounce it, I would

keep it to that. That was at 20
I would keep it to that 20% But

if you walk around in a grocery
store right now, and you see

what people have in their carts,
it's no wonder all the kids are

medicated and everyone is
feeling lousy with brain fog and

everything

Kosta Yepifantsev: and wait, so
no more eating cereal for

breakfast cereals like the
worst. Okay, bad you hear that?

No cereal is

Lisa Garcia: there's no protein
in it. First of all, we need

protein to keep our muscles up.

And there could be some fiber,
but I feel like it hits your

body really quickly. Because
it's a carb. It's a simple carb.

Usually. I mean, I know they
tried to say that there's

healthy cereals but

Kosta Yepifantsev: oatmeal.

Yeah, oatmeal is good rolled,
rolled. Oh, that's

Lisa Garcia: a slow burning car.

Yeah, you can put some fruit
inside of it. Berries, low

glycemic, you know, maybe put a
little bit of flaxseed on the

top that'll help you move it
through that colon.

Kosta Yepifantsev: So last
question, and then we're gonna

move on to the treatments, we're
gonna move on to cleanse if I

was somebody listening to the
show, and I was like, You know

what, today's the day, I'm going
to start fasting. And I'm going

to start eating healthier, so
that my gut is healthier. And

I'm gonna love myself in that
category. Do you start by just

like eating soup and bread? Or?

I mean, what would you recommend
would be a good way to have the

most impact on the health of
your gut? through food? Not

necessarily anything else that
we could implement today? What

type of food would that be?

Well,

Lisa Garcia: it wouldn't be
coffee, first thing in the

morning, I would be awake for at
least an hour, hour and a half

before I had any coffee. And you
might want to, after your hot

shower, turn the cold water on
and get that lymphatic system

going help process that coffee
because otherwise, you're going

to create a cortisol spike. And
I would definitely would start

out your breakfast with protein.

So if you're going to be eating
in the morning at all, I would

probably wait till after 11
o'clock if you were going to eat

but if you can't, I would eat
protein eggs. Okay, something

like that. I don't know. So
doesn't necessarily have to be

bacon and eggs, but eggs with
some vegetables in it an omelet

for Tata, something like that.

And if you have to be quick, a
protein bar of some sort that's

really sustainably sourced,
right? A protein bar that has

really clean ingredients in it
is good. But don't just start

out with that coffee because
it's going to spike that

cortisol right up. And that
starts you into that fight or

flight for the day. What if it's
used for pre workout? Pre

Workout? Well, pre workout is
great. If you're trying me and

my son is all into pre workout.

Gosh, I have to pry it out of
his hands. But like

Kosta Yepifantsev: instead of
using the mix, just use coffee

from pre workout. Is that okay?

Coffee

Lisa Garcia: on an empty stomach
when you first wake up in the

morning is going to cause a
cortisol response which is going

to eventually burn out your
adrenals Okay, there you go. I

mean, put some MCT oil or
something in that thing so that

it can regulate some sort of
little fat and that's another

thing when you take vitamin D
certain vitamins, especially

vitamin D, which is so important
for your health. You got to take

it with a fat so don't take a
vitamin D pill. I have one that

I buy this vitamin d3 k two that
I put under my tongue and it's

mixed with the MCT oil. And
that's what it's supposed to be

doing.

Kosta Yepifantsev: I mean I feel
like I need to just quit my job

and focus completely on my
nutrition.

Lisa Garcia: You don't have to
be that rash. But I think you're

doing great. But I do think like
what you said you're 34 years

old to age is on your side. So

Kosta Yepifantsev: let's just
say somebody decides to do

intermittent fasting middle of
the day, they have a big lunch

and then they have a small
dinner, right? Okay, that

Lisa Garcia: they can do that.

Or they can have a big lunch and
no dinner. Okay, that's called

omad. The one meal a day is very
advantageous as well, as long as

you stop eating before five,
six,

Kosta Yepifantsev: a good friend
of mine, who I work with, he has

a client that we care for that
lives in adult foster care. He's

103. He's eaten one meal a day.

That's right, though. Matt is
amazing. Yeah, one meal a day.

And he says that a lot of people
that you know, are in the Blue

Zones, I guess. Yeah. They also
just eat one meal a day, because

we don't I mean, at the end of
the day, just imagine if you

filled your car up every single
day. You know what I'm saying?

That just wouldn't make any
sense.

Lisa Garcia: We are sick because
we're overeating. The food

supply is awful. The water
supply is awful. That's all

true. But we're also gorging
ourselves with way too much

fruit that one meal a day is a
huge benefit to the body. All

right, let's

Kosta Yepifantsev: talk about
cleanse. We all want to look and

feel our best for women,
specifically, hormonal

imbalances caused by the gut can
be life changing and body

altering. How can colon
hydrotherapy reset the colon and

your body and what's involved in
this procedure? So

Lisa Garcia: I'll just say that
I have a lot of women that come

to me for weight loss, and they
find it. But it's not just it's

not fat that they're losing.

They're losing waist that stuck
in their bodies. I mean, even

the women that come to me and
they say Oh, well, you know, I I

go the restroom twice a day. And
then they'll come in for a

colonic, and by their second or
third colonics. They're like,

wow, like a Buick just came out
of me. Like I can't believe all

the stuff that's in the more
colonics you do in the

beginning, the more stuff comes
out. It's just the way it works.

Stuff is caked on. And so as far
as the hormones go, a lot of

women are having hormone issues
right now. And a lot of the PCOS

and all the other stuff that's
happening right now. And what's

PCOS, polycystic ovarian
syndrome. And it's where the

women are selling their ovaries
just under ovaries, unexplained

weight gain, low level
inflammation, autoimmune stuff

happening to very young girls.

So we're talking like 1012 years
old, all the way up to like its

childbearing years is what it
is. And I won't even go on the

rabbit hole for that. But I will
tell you that it balances

hormones in women, just because
the gut microbiome is able to

reregulate itself. And so when
you reregulate yourself, your

whole body regulates, right, but
that's how it works. So if the

center of health, I think
poverty is, as I said, like the

center of all diseases in the
gut, so the center of all health

would be in the gut, too. Yeah.

So I feel like women come in to
me and they want to lose weight.

A lot of our clients were navy
seals in San Diego, they would

come in to make weight, or
regular people in the military

were coming in to make weight
and they would be doing

intermittent fasting, they would
be doing meal replacement shakes

as well. And they would be doing
colonics. And they do two a week

over a six week period of time,
and they would drop 25 pounds.

But we want to do like the long
haul the long term benefits of

colonics. Right? So especially
for women, yeah, they're losing

impaction. But they're also
losing cravings for sugar, which

I'm seeing. We have a big
ozempic and semaglutide. A lot

of women that are taking that
right now.

Kosta Yepifantsev: How's that
going? Can you like can we just

stop right there and just park
and tell me what your thoughts

are on ozempic and semaglutide.

Lisa Garcia: I am usually a
nonpharmaceutical kind of gal.

That being said, the thought
behind the semaglutide. It's a

peptide shot, right. And so I
feel like it's not all that bad.

If you've got insulin resistance
and other things going on with

your body. I don't think it's
like the worst that you can do.

But part of the problem with it,
and part of how colonics fits in

with it is that it slows down
your digestion, which is why

you're not eating as much. So if
you're not eating as much and

you're obese or you have insulin
resistant, or you have other

things going on, it's really
great for you to stop taking in

so much food, but then you get
constipated. And then you're

feeling lousy, because then your
body is like at a snail's pace,

right so that natural
peristalsis of the colon is not

happening. It's not squeezing
your Colin's whole job is to

squeeze liquid that comes from
the small intestine after it's

done absorbing all the nutrition
and squeezing that liquid out

and forming a stool. That's what
our job is.

Kosta Yepifantsev: I've had
friends who have been on the

ozempic Manjaro shot and they
have terrible stomach issues

terrible.

Lisa Garcia: And that's because
their body is in a slow motion.

Are

Kosta Yepifantsev: they so is it
genetics that they are just not

a good candidate for this shot?

Or can they change their diet to
be able to take the peptide shot

and not have the stomach issue

Lisa Garcia: barring food
sensitivities to certain things

on the Mediterranean diet, I
would assume based on everything

that I've read that
Mediterranean diet is very

healthy for people on the
semaglutide, the G it's called

the GLP. One is what it is. And
that's is that encompasses the

ozempic and the Waco V and
Manjaro. And all that stuff.

Mediterranean diet is very
balanced, it's very advantageous

for people on that it, it helps
because it's got a lot of

fibers, a lot of fruits and
vegetables and legumes, they're

going to want to eat smaller
portions, obviously, if you go

into greens first or wherever
these places are that serve

Mediterranean food in the area
and you order five giant falafel

play. I mean, like, because
here's the problem with people

that are taking those shots,
too, is that they're not getting

any type of health coaching or
behavior or lifestyle changes.

So they will overeat. I mean, in
the beginning, yeah, they'll

start losing the weight and
everything, but they eventually

will overeat. Because if you're
eating for a reason, other than

hunger than food is not the
answer. Right? So that's just I

want to say that right off the
bat like that, they will stuff

themselves just like somebody
that's had gastric bypass will

stuff themselves.

Kosta Yepifantsev: And I think
we've established that you don't

need that much food, you do not?

Yeah,

Lisa Garcia: you do not. You
need about three handfuls of

food a day, why you will not be
sick, and you will not be

starving. My grandparents were
like, Oh, you have to eat

everything on your plate in
these giant meals because they

grew up in the Depression. Sure.

And they were all afraid of
starving to death, right? For

real, and I understand it. But
when they're raising me as a

Portuguese girl, and I'm so fat,
I'm like a butterball and I'm

like, This can't be right. I'm
eating the same amount as my

grandfather like, Oh, you're so
cute. Are you hungry for your

third breakfast? And it's like,
like, they're all happy because

they can afford to feed me.

That's

Kosta Yepifantsev: it right
there. Because they have the

money to be able my grandparents
were the exact same when they

came to America. All they did
was just asked me if I wanted

some food. And I was like, No,
I'm not hungry. We just ate.

They're like you sure you don't
want anything else? Yeah, you

sure you don't want anything
else? And it was just like, it

was their way of showing how
much they loved me by feeding

me. Right.

Lisa Garcia: But the problem is,
is that is that now we're all

running around? And we're not I
mean, like how much exercise to

the average teenager get. I
mean, if they're into sports,

okay, great. But a lot of the
teenagers that I'm seeing have

like these little purple circles
under their eyes, and they're

just attached to their phones,
and they don't really want to do

much. They're playing video
games. And so it's one big giant

recipe for disaster because
we're supposed to be exercising,

and we're supposed to be
spending time in the sun. And

we're supposed to be grounding,
which is take your shoes off and

walk across your grass and the
bare feet. It takes inflammation

out of our bodies. But instead,
people are sleeping with

grounding mat. I mean, there's
so much stuff going on with our

health. But I feel like as far
as women in weight loss go, yes,

colonics are very helpful with
that. And especially with the

monitor arrow and all those
shots because it helps clean the

colon. I have a woman that's
coming to me right now. And

she's coming to me because it
makes it gives her energy

because the colon absorbs water.

And so just like an IV will give
you energy, the colon is a great

way to hydrate your body. It's
arguably even better than an IV

in some circumstances. So you
leave very happy and very up. I

mean, of course, if you have an
impaction problem, and you're

having a really big event full
colonic with me, right?

Sometimes you might be tired.

But that's a person that's tired
after coming into me anxious,

I'll take it. You want to be
tired, you want to be relaxed.

Okay, well, that's how it's
affecting you. But most people

are very energized, because it's
very hydrating for their body.

Kosta Yepifantsev: How does it
work? You know, like to it's a G

rated show, but you know, I
mean, I'm assuming that somebody

like a Is it like a prostate
exam?

Lisa Garcia: Not at all. In
fact, it's really private. So a

colonic, we use FDA regulated
class to intimate devices and

our open colonic system. The
insertion is so small, it's like

the size of your pinkie, you
know, it's much smaller than a

stool, and it's not
uncomfortable. So it's already

set up when you come into the
office. And so your room is set

up, you come in, you get
undressed, you have a clean

gown, you're given a glove, and
you're given lubricant, and you

lubricate your body and the end
of the little nozzle, and you

lay on the equipment and you do
the insertion and you call me

and I come in and you're
completely covered. And I give

you hot water ball and do a
little bit of a belly massage

and belly exam. And I turn the
water on so slow. So anyone

that's ever had an enema, that's
like more of a of a hard

squeeze, you know, and it's only
a certain amount of, of liquid.

So it only goes up to the four
to seven inches of the larger of

the colon. And that's all there
is because that's the the rectum

and it'll maybe empty out the
rectum and small amount of the

sigmoid colon, but this is like
16 liters over a 45 minute

period of time. So it's a warm
water it's micron filtered for

the for, you know, for the city
water, it's got UV lighting, for

microorganisms, it's got
temperature control and backflow

prevention and flow control, it
can't blow your colon, we vet

you to make sure that you are a
candidate that safe right, we

keep it to 45 minutes because
you're getting so much water and

so great for you but you've got
to process that for your

kidneys. So if you're somebody
with renal insufficiency is

you're not a candidate for colon
hydrotherapy, but it's very

private and I put the water on
very slow and low Oh, and you

just hold yourself closed. Like
as if you were holding an enema

N and is 30 seconds or a minute,
two minutes depends on the

person. And when you feel full,
you simply release the waters.

If you're having a bowel
movement, the insertion stays in

you the whole time because
you're in it, then you based on

your proximity to it, and you
see the water and waste come out

and you're watching it all
unfold. Wow, a lot of young

people are seeing this on tick
tock and because, you know, they

don't care that they wasted it
right. Oh, yeah. I mean, I'm

telling you, it's people end up
loving it. And Leonardo DiCaprio

and Kim Kardashian talked about,
you know, other people that are

in the public eye, they want to
they want to extend their lives.

But Mae West did colonics all
the time, Princess Diana was big

into colonics. So I mean, these
are people that want to extend

their life, and they want to not
have things sitting in their

body for too long.

Kosta Yepifantsev: How'd you get
into this? I mean, like, I know

that you weren't growing up
thinking I know what I'm going

to do when I grew up. So how I
mean, how did it happen?

Lisa Garcia: I was a legal
assistant for a long time, okay.

And I was around a lot of
lawyers, and I was going to be a

lawyer until I realized that
everyone goes to the noon

meeting at lunchtime. And that's
an AAA meeting. And I'm like,

Why is everybody so stressed out
and angry and smoking cigarettes

at their desks when they're not
supposed to be smoking in here

and, and wires, everybody on
their third wife and their kids

are all sad. And so I decided
not to be a lawyer. Because for

me, I wanted to be a trial
lawyer. So I stopped doing the

legal secretary legal assistant
stuff, and I started trying to

do some self care. And colonics
was something that I wanted to

try because I was gonna go on a
cruise, and they had some group

honestly lose 10 pounds on a
month, or whatever it is. And so

I did it. And I fell in love
with colonics. And so as I

became more health conscious, I
became a health coach first and

I was like, Well, this is a part
of it. My mom has lupus and

other autoimmune conditions,
stuff going on. And colon cancer

was running rampant. And I just
ran into that Chris war person,

and you know, online, and I just
really believed the more I

learned about health, and the
gut, the more I realized that

that was really where it was.

And so I just wanted to do and I
wanted to do a whole new career

change. And that's what I'm
doing. I love it. I love it so

much. It doesn't gross me out at
all. I'll stare right at your

poop and be like, hey, there
goes. And people are like, I

can't believe you do this for a
living. And I said, believe it.

Well,

Kosta Yepifantsev: I mean, so
let's, let's give some advice.

When it comes to anything
related to the colon, rectum, or

but in general, people can feel
a bit skittish No pun intended.

For anyone that's feeling
anxiety about how the insertion

or the evacuation process works,
smells, or feels, what's your

advice?

Lisa Garcia: My advice is to
come in and try it, at least

call me and book a free
consultation to come in, we have

these Discovery sessions that
are 30 minutes long, I'll show

you the whole spa, we'll go
through everything. There are

fans and apparatuses on the
equipment that suck the odor out

of the air, the rooms stay very
clean. They have CDC, FDA

regulated cleaners that I use,
and they're very private. So

that's the thing. I was telling
Morgan, you know, a lot of miles

so 1/3 of my clients are men and
men that are in your position

are not the ones that are
embarrassed, okay, they love it.

They're like, we're doing this
with the older gentleman that

park at the all these parking
lot and walk or walk across the

street. I'm like, here's my guy.

He's like, Frogger he's trying
to like, run and not get hit by

the car. Or the guy that parks
by Dr. Todd at the end of our of

our complex, you know, they tell
me Look, we believe this, you

know, saved our life. We feel so
much better. I can't give you a

review. But I'll give you a word
of mouth referral. And so

that's, that's totally fine.

Sure. They could just say, Hey,
I tried the services and I feel

so much better. But if they
start getting into I was bloated

or I was this or as then people
are going to know what they're

doing. And there's just a real
stigma, especially in the south

here. So in California, if
you're one of my clients in

California and you have $150
extra in your week, you're not

going to get your eyebrows done
or your eyelashes done before a

colonic. Wow, you're just not
Yeah, that's not what we do

Kosta Yepifantsev: all around
the world. People do enemas and

colonics and all that stuff, and

Lisa Garcia: that's how they're
staying healthy. And that's and

that's a big part of alternative
treatment for cancer and other

diseases, other inflammatory
diseases. I have a lot of people

that come into me there inflamed
from tic diseases. So that alpha

gal, the Rocky Mountain Spotted
Fever, the Lyme disease. I have

a naturopath that sending me
people from Franklin or

Brentwood or something. And she
believes I mean, I just had a

woman came in today she had
melanoma and she decided to not

go to traditional route. She's
seeing this naturopath who's

like some sort of a chemist.

She's amazing. Her name is
Tamara. And she sent me this

woman and she said the woman
told me today she goes, I did

the three colonics I'm gonna do
three more. And she said that

she believes the colon
hydrotherapy is a big part of

how my numbers have gone way way
into range like they're supposed

to be. So that's a huge deal for
me to hear that.

Kosta Yepifantsev: So your
office is where? For 20

Lisa Garcia: South low Avenue in
Cookeville. So that's behind the

absolute fitness in the old
days. Yeah, it's

Kosta Yepifantsev: by Baba
Ganges.

Lisa Garcia: It's Yeah, it's
further down towards the big bar

on the same side of the street
as Bubba candies. Nice.

Kosta Yepifantsev: Nice. So how
many of your clients are like

locals? Are they primarily local
people? Or do you get them from

across the state across the
country region,

Lisa Garcia: I get them from
Kentucky and Georgia, I get a

lot of Knoxville people. As a
matter of fact, I I have a lot I

have a good Cookeville
following, and upper Cumberland

following but the place in
Knoxville went out of business

and 2020 or retired or
something. So they were all

going to Chattanooga, but now
they're choosing me because of

my reviews, because I have so
many reviews I have like, and

they're all five star that's
probably between Facebook, Yelp

and, and Google, I think I have
almost 100, which is crazy

because I've I've had over 500
clients, but a lot of practice

filling is or they keep bugging
me to open up there. They're

like you should open up there.

It's so much bigger and you will
be rolling. And every time I

come in here it's It's quiet.

It's quiet, because it's a new
business. It's a new concept. I

have all the faith in the world
that people in Cookeville and

the surrounding counties are
going to catch on. But I do have

a lot of transplants do they
come in? Yeah.

Kosta Yepifantsev: And so this
business opened in 2022.

Lisa Garcia: It opened November
the first part of November 2022.

So yeah, it's very new.

Kosta Yepifantsev: I'm assuming
just from this conversation,

that there's not a lot of
offices that perform this type

of work. I mean, in the state of
Tennessee, how many people do

this Kalon these colonics? Well,

Lisa Garcia: I'm not sure how
many do them in the state of

Tennessee, but I know that
there's only six of us that are

i x certified. Wow. Actually,
sir, because there's an entire

state and regulations for this.

Just because there's no
regulations for it doesn't mean

you shouldn't be certified
because you're dealing with

people's health. And when you're
certified, you can do things

like get malpractice insurance
like I have, or you know, for

like 189 bucks a year like
that's all I pay for $3 million

in coverage because it's so safe
when you know what you're doing.

I know that I'm the only one
doing open colonics in the upper

Cumberland for sure. And I know
that I'm getting a lot of that

Knoxville traffic coming down to
me. So there aren't too many of

us that are certified. There's a
Chattanooga there's a few and

Franklin. Franklin has some
amazing colon hydrotherapist

over there as well. I had a
woman come to me today from her.

She referred the woman to me
because she's only doing

packages, and she's like $250 a
colonic or something. So it's a

lot different to price different
branches a colonic for me a

single open colonic is 125 Nice.

You can buy two for 200. I have
all kinds of specials and I have

all kinds of memberships that
people do so I do a lot of other

things that are too so they
electro lymphatic drainage, I do

that as well, which is great
before colonic because you can

see the lymph come out in the
colonic and I do far infrared

sauna. Everything I do is to
take toxins out and lower

inflammation in your body.

That's everything I

Kosta Yepifantsev: do. So some
of the things that you're

saying, when I listen to Joe
Rogan. He talks a lot about like

grounding yourself and all that
stuff. I have red light therapy,

so I bought this Juve panel that
I put on my wall, and I stand in

front of it for five minutes a
day on each side. Before I go to

bed.

Lisa Garcia: It's great for
lowering inflammation in the

body for sure. Yeah. And for us,
we don't have a red light panel.

But we have a far infrared
sauna, which is like heats your

body from the inside out like
babies incubator, right? So it

lowers inflammation that way
blood pressure and stuff. And we

have a red light therapy going
on at the same time that gene

therapy is an excellent product.

Yeah,

Kosta Yepifantsev: for sure. By
this point in the episode, there

might be a few people that are
feeling skeptical or thinking

that the body heals itself
naturally, and there's no need

to get in there and mess with
the flow. What's your message to

anyone that's thinking this,

Lisa Garcia: we are not living
in our grandmother's earth

anymore. So we were absolutely
created to fix ourselves. Our

bodies are amazing. But our
bodies are not filled any more

with natural substances. So if
you are living a natural life

and you are not drinking the tap
water and you're not drinking

sweet tea, and you're not
breathing the air with the

chemtrails and all the other
stuff they've got going on here,

and you're living a life where
you're taking time to breathe

and meditate that absolutely
your body is going to be regular

and it's going to heal itself.

But we have a lot of toxins
coming our way that are

engineered and lab and our
bodies were not meant to break

that down. A genetically
modified seed. If you

genetically modified a human, it
wouldn't be a human anymore like

it was supposed to be. So when
you eat an ear of corn and it's

genetically modified, it looks
and smells and tastes like corn,

it's not corn. So we're just
giving our bodies a little bit

of help in getting rid of
chemicals from hair products.

From nail nail product. I mean,
everything has a chemical in it.

So when you're spraying your
hair with hairspray in the

morning, you're ingesting all
that everything gets passed

through the colon everything is
passed to the liver for sure.

And we unburden the liver when
we help with a colonic because

our livers have over 500
functions. It's the hardest

working organ in our body and
the colon is tied directly into

the liver. That's why a lot of
people do come Coffee enemas,

they like to release liver bile,
they like to help the liver to

be a healthier organ. Everybody
has non alcoholic fatty liver,

it seems our livers are just
overtaxed and overburdened. So,

yes, we can assume that our
bodies are created to function

in a healthy way, by themselves,
but that's not the world we're

in our babies are born with,
like 200 and some 1000 chemicals

in their umbilical cords. Even
look that up online. It's

craziness. If they're just it's
just too much, yeah, too much

for us to mitigate. So So I'm
not saying you'll die without a

colonic? I'm just saying that
why not feel your best? Well,

that's

Kosta Yepifantsev: what I'm
saying. So with regards to

feeling your best, what does
that look like for the daily

person when they get a colonic?

Lisa Garcia: Well, I have one
lady that comes in. And she says

to me, she comes in every other
week. And she says, You know how

I know it's time for my colonic
because I can't think straight.

So it really helps her with
brain fog. So not everyone comes

in there because they're
constipated, or they have IBS

symptoms. A lot of people come
in there, because it's just a

way to get rid of the stress in
their bodies get rid of anything

that might be stuck in there,
the brain fog, the fatigue, the

bloating, the gas. And a lot of
it is not just from eating too

fast. A lot of it's from what
you're eating, how you're eating

it, how late you're eating it,
and you're not giving your body

time to process it. So they're
just coming in there to unplug.

And to give their bodies that
little bit of extra energy. Like

I told you, the woman that came
in today, she comes in because

she has so much energy after her
colonics. So everyone comes in

for a different reason. But I
feel like what I mainly hear

from people is they've lost
bloat, they don't feel bloated,

and they don't feel fatigued.

And the brain fog is a huge one.

Kosta Yepifantsev: I mean,
Morgan and I are gonna go do it.

I would love that. And you said
you have to take three days, not

like in a row or you have to
take three days out of the

schedule.

Lisa Garcia: No, we have
packages of three that we we

recommend. So we're not supposed
to recommend because we're not

doctors. But if you're trying to
come in there and you're trying

to do a reset, there would be a
minimum of three in California,

they would tell you 12. But hear
they'll look at you like you're

crazy. So I'm going to say
three, can you just do three,

and we'd like to do maybe a
Monday, Tuesday or Monday

Wednesday because we want to
capitalize on the hydration that

we've given you people almost
always tell me they see more

action, they see more come out
in the second or third colonic

than they do the first one. But
but people come in on their

lunch hours. So you can come in
at 10 o'clock in the morning and

be out of there by 1045. And
you're on your way. It's not

like, you know, you're down for
the count for the whole day

people come in because it makes
them feel better. There's no

like downtime for this. It's
like if you went in for an IV

therapy, you know, Myers
cocktail, or whatever they call

it. And you're and you leave and
you go on your way. I like to

ask that they will do a minimum
of three to six colonics just

because I feel like it's going
to help their health. And I'm

going to get a great review. And
people are going to trust me to

help other people because the
reviews are everything for me.

Right? Because that's what makes
people trust what we're doing.

Kosta Yepifantsev: Yeah,
absolutely. So we always like to

end the show on a high note, who
is someone that makes you better

when you're together?

Lisa Garcia: I would definitely
say my husband, my unsung hero,

my husband is tall and quiet.

And he he built that spa from
the ground up. I mean, that used

to be Spin City studio. So when
I walked in there, there was

black foam on the floor and
there was no walls and him and

his best friend who moved from
California as well. They came

and they they really put their
heart into that place. And so my

husband Ruben Garcia, I love him
very much. And he moved here

because I wanted to and he comes
with me everywhere. He's a good

sport, I drag him to the
Cookeville lifestyle parties

like drag him to everything I go
to for the chamber and you know,

he's going out with the dinner
with me and a client. So he is

somebody that really makes me
better. He has nothing but

patients for me. I sunk my life
savings into this into this

build and he didn't even bat an
eye. He has so much confidence

in me and he's always saying
like I had a billboard by

vertical coffee for a while and
he took a video of it and send

it to our kids of the family
chat. He goes there's my wife,

there's your mom, so I just want
to thank him he definitely makes

me better.

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