Cybertraps Podcast

In this special edition of the Cybertraps podcast, Jethro Jones interviews Matt Porter, the founder and Chief Solutions Officer at AmorFati Labs, live at the Inch360 event in Spokane, Washington. Matt shares his background as a former intelligence officer and discusses his transition to starting AmorFati Labs, a deep tech studio focused on holistic medicine. The conversation explores the intersection of deep technology and healthcare, quantum computing in medicine, the challenges of medical education, and the importance of cybersecurity in vulnerable communities.

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We explore the risks arising from the use and misuse of digital devices and electronic communication tools. We interview experts in the fields of cybersafety, cybersecurity, privacy, parenting, and technology and share the wisdom of these experts with you!

Okay, welcome to this special
edition of the Cybertraps podcast.

We're here live at the Inch360, uh, event
here in beautiful Spokane, Washington.

And, uh, we've got Matt
Porter on the program.

He's the founder and chief
solutions officer at AmorFati Labs.

Matt, tell us a little bit about
yourself and, uh, what AmorFati

Labs is.

Yeah, absolutely.

thank you so much for having me
and really just been enjoying

the Inch360, uh, events.

So I, Morfati Labs is really the
outpouring of the fact that I'm

a former intelligence officer.

I spent eight years after graduating from
West Point, then left the military to

start medical education over here at WSU.

It was really once I saw the, we'll
just call it, emergence of a lot of

technologies I'd seen previously,
combined with seeing really where

medicine was going and has been.

I'm taking a pause to be able to start.

I really found my company, Morphati
Labs, being a deep tech, uh, studio

and wanting to really bridge the
previous experience that I've had

through the lens of holistic medicine.

Okay, interesting.

So, that's a, that's a
really fascinating approach.

Holistic medicine and deep tech.

Deep technology.

What does that look like in practice?

Yeah,

absolutely.

So we're already seeing, I think in
the farthest end, institutions like

the Cleveland Clinic making use of
the first instance of IBM's System

1 quantum computer to accelerate
drug discovery and research.

But what we're seeing is systems
like that are not ubiquitous.

And we're also seeing a lot of issue in
medical education with just A difference

of placing more financial strain on
students, while at the same time fewer and

fewer spots, really it's more competitive
to be able to even get to residency.

Three, five, seven years of
training just to then maybe decide

that medicine is not for them.

Yeah,

yeah.

Yeah, that's that is a real challenge that
late opportunity to determine whether or

not this is really for you My background's
education and part of this same exact

problem exists that you don't get in
front of kids in a classroom Until your

senior year of college and you've already
invested all this time money and energy

Into the degree and then you get there and
you realize boy, I hate standing in front

of these kids all day long That's that's
a bad time to learn That about yourself

and so giving people opportunities
to get in beforehand and be able to

experience it So they know what it is.

They really should be doing.

So what brought you to
this inch 360 conference?

so to me what we're seeing right now, I
think is a Wanted to get a view of where

the current landscape for cybersecurity
is and really where the conversation

around zero tech network architecture
Jethro is within a place like Spokane

that is not exactly your Seattle or your
San Francisco because it's in a place

like this where it's more important,
not less, that people have really the

view of seeing where the bleeding edge
of technology intersects with the most

vulnerable populations, whether it
be medicine, education, or finance.

It's these kinds of communities
that are going to be hit hardest

and it's most important that they
Really have that, they're prepared.

Mm hmm.

Absolutely.

And, and what is your takeaway
from this conference so far?

I, I think it's a the fact that I
spoke with a couple of folks who were

actually not only aware, but actively
building with things like IBM's Quantum

Computing Language Qiskit that's open
source uh, looking at Mojo that's a

superset of Python to accelerate it
and then the CISA uh, uh, Cybersecurity

Infrastructure, Security Agency, all
being here is a huge comfort, and people,

really a reflection of people having
this, the Overton window shifting to not

fear based security, but more prudent,
probabilistic based, and seeing it.

We live in a time where technology
can do both great harm and great good.

How do we safely and prudently use
that to accelerate the good and do

our best to defend against the bad?

Yeah, yeah, that's good.

I like that perspective
because I felt the same way.

That it's not about, we
need to be afraid of it.

It's about recognizing that Something
is probably going to happen, and that's

not like depressing or fatalistic or
anything like that, it's just, hey,

this is the world that we live in,
there are bad actors out there, and

we need to be prepared and know that
something is going to happen, and be

prepared for when it does, that we
know how to deal with it and respond.

And, uh, well, nobody has to be a
quantum physicist to really value Rather,

I'll, I'll say that the principles
of quantum mechanics and why quantum

computing is both as exciting as it
is, uh, scary, I think it speaks to,

at the end of the day, the realistic
simplicity of the current posture we

have of, it's not about one or zero.

Yeah.

It's not about yes or no, or secure or
not secure, it is, there's probabilities.

Yeah.

And, coming to terms with that.

And accepting that we can't dictate
what that's going to be, but placing

trust in people to move us forward

prudently.

Yeah, that's good.

Uh, so tell us how people can get
in touch with you at Amorphati Labs.

Yeah,

so the, uh, right now landing page is www.

amorphatilabs.

org.

And on social media, because I
suppose everybody uses that, the

handle is PhaedrusFlow, spelled P H.

A E D R U S F L O W in homage to my
Harley Davidson 2023 breakout, Phaedrus.

Also another philosophical point there.

And then flow, because flow state is
something that I think is getting a lot

more more focused and better attention
with gamification in the learning space.

Yeah, yeah, cool.

I think we can talk about a lot of things.

This says AmorFatiLabs.

net

It sure does because I had to
recently, uh, change over a domain.

All good.

It's org.

Okay.

Go there, people.

Alright.

Thank you very much, Matt.

Appreciate you being part of
the Cybertraps podcast and

coming to the Inch360 event.

Well, I appreciate you very much for
giving the space and the conversation.

I think it's really great.

Very good.