Heat (Part 2)

Heat (Part 2) Al Pacino’s Epic "Give Me All You Got!" | Michael Mann Deep Dive

Get ready for an intense breakdown of Heat (1995) as we dive into Part 2 of our Michael Mann season on the Director’s Chair Network!  Join host Ryan and special guest co-host Doug as they unpack the next 34 minutes of this iconic crime drama, filled with Al Pacino’s unforgettable yelling, Robert De Niro’s cool stoicism, and a stellar cast that keeps you hooked. If you love crime dramas, Michael Mann’s directing, or just want to relive the magic of Heat, this episode is for you! 

In this episode, we’re diving deep into the character dynamics, iconic scenes, and Michael Mann’s signature widescreen style that make Heat a masterpiece. From Al Pacino’s over-the-top “Give me all you got!” to Robert De Niro’s calculated moves, we cover the tension, the drama, and the brilliance of this crime epic. Plus, we touch on the stellar supporting cast, including Val Kilmer, Jon Voight, and Tone Loc. Whether you’re a longtime fan or new to Michael Mann’s world, you’ll discover something new about this legendary film.

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Doug Greenberg

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hello and welcome to another episode of well the heat coverage on the director's
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chair network show this is the season where we're covering Michael Man Films i'm your host Ryan and this is part two
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of heat coverage craig and I covered the first 34 minutes on the last episode and the next 34 minutes of film coverage
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will be done by myself and my guest co-host Doug doug how you doing i'm
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doing great man i really appreciate you inviting me on for this yeah man it's fantastic of course we have podcasts
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together many times on other various projects largely on the last of the Action Heroes podcast network check that
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out where we've covered a majority or a lot of Sylvester Stallone films that aren't Rocky or Rambo we've we just
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released at the time of this recording Alarm Sylvester Stone's latest action
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thriller straight to streaming services check that out on the again on the last of the Action Heroes podcast network
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okay Doug let's get into it everyone knows how this goes we're going we're going to kind of cut out a lot of the
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preamble that Craig and I sort of covered with the part one of the series everyone listening now knows Heat knows
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the film they want to hear our thoughts on the next part of the film but before we get into that okay this is your first
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time on on the Michael Man season of the show you covered Edwick with me you did don't Don't tell me you did the last one
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was Trial by Fire was his Swan Song before that we did Blood Diamond that's right and then early on we did Glory
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that's right boy great films heavy films you took Yeah you handled all the heavy films yeah at that time I knew nothing
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about Trial by Fire but it looked like an interesting synopsis to me so I picked it and if anybody listened to
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that season they'll know how it blew us out of the water it was crazy yeah katie who guests on a few of those
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episodes that season and she guessed with me on Last Moheakans of this season she watched Trial by Fire because of our
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coverage and our thoughts she agreed yeah she agreed that it was a great film so there you go Edwick one more person
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watched your film because of us there you go another dollar in his pocket that's right man welld deserved okay
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well now we're covering Michael Man films of course this season what's your overall fandom of Michael Man do you
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have one have you seen his films do you know which films he's done i have never been attached to a director specifically
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like outside of you know the main my Steven Spielbergs and sure James Cameron
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Martin Scorsesei like directors themselves Quentyn Tarantino directors
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themselves don't resonate with me i don't see like this director has a certain style that I'm attracted to and
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we know our buddy Craig is just obsessed with Brian De Palma and God bless him
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for it he's digging deep into the Palama but I'm not attached to directors in that way so I was actually looking
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through his filmography and it's remarkable how few of his films I've actually seen sure fair enough and Heat
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is the main one that I've seen i've seen it multiple times and I could imagine that this was a highly soughtafter film
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by your potential guests yeah that's why when I did this one I think it might
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have even been Craig craig's actually you know one of course he's covered to Palma on this network as well it was him
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that said "You should divide this film up into five parts." And then he also said "You should make sure each co-host
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that doesn't cover the last part of the film gets a chance to speak to the gunfight." So I can collage that or
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montage that together and insert it into the final episode so whenever we get to that part of the final episode I'm just
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gonna say "Okay now here's Doug uh Craig whoever talking about the
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gunfight because we're not going to cover that today if that makes sense." So that was a fair a fair statement that Craig said so yeah thank Craig for the
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long drawn out Heat coverage well if you're going to do it for any film he is the one to do it cuz a it's a three-hour
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monster and b it's just it's just so packed like scene to scene out of the 34
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minutes that I have we have one like somewhat action scene but the rest is dialogue and I don't know maybe the
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average movie goer might say it's kind of boring but we see the the diamonds in the rough you know as you will i'm ready
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to jump right in yeah we're going to cover some of those scenes but before we do well actually well yeah we always talk about the
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actors and stuff again Craig and I covered a lot of that pre discussion about the major actors but we might as
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well discuss the actors that we actually see during your sequence because a couple of them come up they didn't come
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up with the first 34 minutes between myself and Craig so let's get into it so where we last left off I want to hear
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your thoughts on this moment by Alpuccino it happened with Craig and I but I told Craig I want to show Doug i
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want to get your reaction to this incredible scene did you fall in love last night went off somewhere just tell
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me that i I'll settle for it you know what I mean i'll buy that v give me all you got give me all you got i swear me
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and my Okay so I just wanted to play that part again for you was that L being L was he given
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direction due to that did he give Michael Man a heads up that he was just going to yell "Give me all you got?"
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I can't believe it by direction that that's Alpuccino man oh my god it's like the tale of two Alpuccinos because you
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see him early on in Godfather one he's very mildmannered he talks softly but
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man I I don't know even where the switch happens because he got this grally voice you know the yelling but the campiest
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the most scene chewing he's ever been has been in The Devil's Advocate sure if
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you ever seen that movie oh yeah yeah it is right around this time right and this is that same Alpuccino right here he's
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trying to prime CI confidential informant as we in the law enforcement community call them oh you're a police
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officer right i am yes thanks for mentioning that i was actually expecting
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it a little earlier but I apologize and nonetheless so he's greasing a
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confidential informant for information and which which doesn't it doesn't need
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to be like an over-the-top exchange but Aluccino and his Alpuccinosess makes it
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him screaming at I actually laugh i laugh when I see him do this i never get tired of that because he's just because
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he's asking did you get lucky did you fall in love did you get you know were you with a woman meaning why weren't you
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where you're supposed to be because you know we're getting laid essentially he's like he's looking for information he
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just yells "Give me all you got." But you notice his eyes when he yells that he doesn't have the furrowed brow he's
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give me all you got it's just like a straight face but his voice just just
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registers way up give me all you got i got I played it twice for Craig i'll play it twice for you because it's just
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fantastic just look at his eyes that I'll settle for it you know what I mean i'll buy that this Give me all you got
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give me that i swear he's not angry you know he's not angry is he actor here
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about to laugh is Is he laughing looks like I would I would be What the hell
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happened okay now there's another part in this scene as well where he starts
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singing again why are you singing it's the best
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he'll probably leave a note right on the door tonight's the best I can do for you
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man what was it what you're a police officer you're talking to your C did you just start
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singing Doug i knew me being a police officer was going to come up and Oh yeah
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i'm a patrol you know a sergeant i'm a sergeant in patrol i've been a patrolman
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most of my career and I don't really have confidential informants right but even people on the street people that I
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trust guys that you know somewhat give us some kind of information sure we don't talk to them like this he's toying
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with the guy and I can't imagine that this is a lot of direction by Michael Man he probably gives Alpuccino an
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outline this is what your character is going to say this is the script go do what you do oh yeah yeah i don't think
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you have Yeah he's 55 or six here at this time and there's no Yeah you're not
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You're not really telling Al how to be Al if that makes sense and we're going to see it again the next scene when he's
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greasing this guy's cousin or whoever he is that he meets in the club but Tone Lo
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right that's Tone Lo that we Yeah we'll get to We'll get to Yeah okay of course throughout this film right up to the
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diner scene and afterwards of course it's basically Albuccino's turn Robert Dairo's turn aluccino's turn i get what
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they're doing there's a little bit more screen time given to Robert in this film than but
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it's a tease it's a big big old tease because this film was marketed I'm sure
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Craig brought it up as the first face-to-face screen meeting of Alpuccino and Robert Dairo after
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sharing the movie sharing title cards with on one of the biggest movies one of
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the best sequels ever created Godfather 2 right but this is the first time they're on screen together they shared
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another film together I don't think went as well remember that was a Righteous Kill a Righteous Kill righteous Kill baby yeah oh boy it was like Turk and
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Rooster were their names or No it wasn't yeah it was an awful awful movie totally
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forgettable they tried and it was a swing and a miss directed by John Avent
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interesting enough that'd be one worth investigating for the Director's Char interesting director he did like Risky
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Business Frag Green Tomatoes The Mighty Ducks oh there you go yeah but he did
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Righteous Kill what were the character names was it Turk and Rooster yeah you're right turk by Dairo Rooster by
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Pacino and 50 Cent you know it's going to be kind of a bad movie when 50 Cent is third build
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you know what I mean if you just like Escape Plan that's what I mean you've got 50 Cent somewhere in the top billing
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it's not a very good film all right uh here's the thing and this is not any offense to John Aet but it goes to show
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you the power that a director and a script has like you have Daenerino in the same film together you think "Oh
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we're going to knock it out of the park again." No but you don't why because of bad direction bad writing it's just
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amazing the actors have the ability to do what they do in this film but why is
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it they're doing it here and not righteous kill you can only do so much with a bad script you can have the
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greatest actor but if you give him [ __ ] to work with where is he going to go with it
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that movie is completely forgettable righteous kill now what is your overall
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thoughts on Al you know you as an actor his career is someone that you follow or is it just oh he's in this film and I
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like Alice I watch it i mean yeah i mean here films i've never watched a movie
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specifically because Alpuchccino was in it but if there's a movie that comes across my radar and he's in it I usually
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enjoy the stuff that he's in you can't take anything away from the guy he's a fantastic actor and he can do a lot with
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Oh what's the one scent of a Woman repls the blind guy yeah he again hams it up
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to the camera though he's like way over the top but he's fantastic in it did he win an Academy Award for that one scent
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of a woman i think he did is that the one where he goes haha is that that one
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yeah yeah yeah yeah chris Chris a young kid that becomes like his caretaker o'donnell chris O'Donnell yeah so he's
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got one Academy Award win nine nominations and he did win best actor
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for Sentable Woman in 1993 so two years prior to this okay i've seen a lot of
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his films he's one of these actors where I've never seen it because he's in except for some of his older films i
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watched Cerico because of my love of Godfather films i watched him in Cypo Dog Day Afternoon so I did seek those
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out because of him i was like "Oh these are the early films of his." Great films
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by the way have you seen Circle i have a long time ago i really liked it and I never visited it again which I should
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yeah yeah i That's another director Sydney Lumette i know it's funny you guys all say you Americans say lame met
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but I believe it's lum but actually no it is lummet according to Wikipedia so I I say that so Wikipedia does say met a
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hard t but being French oh I'm not French but I live in French bilingual Canada and we would pronounce that lum
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sydney lum but I guess it's not it's it's lummet it's to me it's always weird
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i've always pronounced it lum my whole life it may very well be it's just Americanized because he's American for
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all intents and purposes oh yeah he was born in Philly of all places you know
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there you go okay so yeah Alpuccino again great actor i've always enjoyed
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him even silly films like you know Devil's Advocate it's kind of a It's a silly film but it's a fun you know but
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he's great in it yeah and that's Yeah everything that I've seen him in I've enjoyed but I never sought out movies
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just because he's in it yeah robert Dairo who's next on screen here
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i've done more of his from Cape Fear to I when I was a big movie like goer as a
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teenager young adult I definitely would be very happy and to pick up a Robert
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Dairo film in fact I don't know if I watched it because Michael Man was a director even though I loved Last
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Moheakans i probably just because of the trailer i see that it's Daener Pacino
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Kilmer i'm like "Well I'm going to watch this movie." That's what it was oh and Michael Man's directing well that's an interesting choice after Last of
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Moleakans so I would say this is a film I watch because I love crime drama films and you got Pacino and and Diero i'm
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going to watch it that's why I saw this at the time of course so what are your thoughts on Dairo as an actor overall
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another great actor like you can't pick two highly rated guys more highly rated
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guys to put on the screen at the same time if you were to ask me between Pacino and Dairo who I was a bigger fan
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of at this time it would definitely be Dairo my what's gateway drug for Robert
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Dairo was obviously Good Fellas good Fellas don't sleep on Casino man sharon Stone and that i loved Casino but I
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started with Good Fellas and then I started to seek things out with Robert Dairo more just because of Robert Dairo
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like Raging Bull was something that that was never on my radar until after I saw him in Good Fellas so I sought that out
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taxi Driver taxi Driver is another another one that I sought out because of him deer Hunter i went back like back to
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old Dairo to try to see more of his younger stuff but yeah meet the parents
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even [ __ ] like that that interested me because of Robert Dairo yeah agreed now
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this next scene we've got Dairo's character Neil McCaulay he's talking to
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a character named Kelso who's played by Tom Nunan and for you Michael man season
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followers you'll remember Tom Nan played the tooth fairy in Manhunter so this is
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him here with a beard yeah it's the same actor i will say keep the beard buddy keep the beard you look less creepy
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so there's not much more to really say about the scene this scene is just Dairo's character getting information
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about how the fence works and all this stuff it's the background on the bank heist this is him learning about it the
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introduction of the score he's going to get 12 million so that's what we learned too is a 12 million score and Buddy here
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gets 100,000 up front for the information we'll do a little bit of the scene just so you can see Tom Nan's face
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and how much better he looks with a beard than he look do you remember did you see him in Manhunter as a tooth
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fairy i never saw Manhunter but the discussion was he's creepy but he looks
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normal this year if I hadn't seen Manhunter just as recently for my coverage of the season I don't know if I would have recognized him necessarily
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from that movie they had three hold up alarm systems two telco and a cellular
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see but the signals aren't going anywhere because see the night before you cut in and trick out the alarm
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system computer to turn itself and the video recorder off 20 minutes before you
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walk in the door i love how this film deals with early computer stuff a little bit trick the computers to turn themselves off because this movie came
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out 30 years ago it's just funny how a lot of this early computer talk yeah i love how he presents that too because
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obviously you're robbing a bank you want to know what kind of security systems he has and he's "Oh no no it's it's far
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more advanced than you can possibly imagine." Yeah and he like lets it hang there for a second oh but the signals
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aren't going anywhere because you're going in the day before you know what I mean and then Yeah but yes the way he
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sets it up like that you set him up by saying that you never seen a system more advanced than this but it's not going to
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matter you know what I mean cuz you're going to disable it the day before i love the the way he sets that up yeah
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architectural electrical engineering got the boards already built they go straight into the CPU
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they go straight out of that early computer they go straight to the CPU oo
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what's a CPU also I'm sure you got it on this clip when he's like "How do you know how much they have?" He's "Oh it
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you know the information just flies out there you just got to reach out and grab it." Started talking about the internet again
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because the internet wasn't called Well I mean it was but in 95 I don't know if I would have
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understood the term internet even then it's hard to say he might say the
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worldwide web at this time maybe maybe but that's what he's saying it's out there in the cloud but see that's the
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thing they didn't use the term cloud but that's what he's saying in the cloud you can grab it from the cloud throughout this whole scene his delivery of stuff
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like that that's Tom Newman yeah I know nothing about this dude but I love it like when he's talking about the alarm
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system oh that doesn't matter cuz you're going to go in the day before and this like when he's Oh the information's just
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out you just got to go out and grab it he's just so level so calm he's got such
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a soft tone in his voice he kills the scene i wish he was in more of this movie honestly
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12.1 12.2 million that's how much they're going to get is 12 million you're on you're on you're in
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congratulations and to give you a little idea then off in the distance there we have
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John Voit i think we forgot to talk about old John Voit there he's the guy his hair is horrible in this
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film and I'll say this about John Voit i've never sought out a film that he's
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in if he's in it I'm always like "Sure whatever." Uh yeah of course his greatest film was he not in Deliverance
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with Bert Reynolds yeah he was in Deliverance with That's his greatest film i think so i guess what would you
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say his greatest film is i don't really see John Void as a great actor i don't
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know if I could pick a greatest film i've seen him in a bunch of things but nothing stands out he's just there you
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know what I mean like National Treasure i I like him he's 86 now he's 86 now the greatest thing he's ever done is
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actually producing Angelie Jolie as a daughter oh yeah yeah that's that's probably the greatest thing does
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Anaconda count like he's he was in an I love that scene of him staring at Jennifer
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Lopez you know the one I'm talking about yeah yeah yeah he's totally I I effing
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her she's like drying her hair or whatever so John he's special ambassador to Hollywood incumbent right now that's
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what he's That's his job he's the special ambassador to Hollywood he's serving with Mel Gibson and Stallone
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yeah he's uh What do you think they do what do they do i wonder what's their duty i don't know they just pump Republican propaganda throughout
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Hollywood in a Democrat dominated you know
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he's 86 let the man rest you and Craig covered the the holdup at the beginning of the movie
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right so he's talking to the banker who they stole the bonds from right right correct here that's right yeah yeah i I
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don't know if you wanted to No do whatever you want just take what say whatever you want wherever you want it's all good bro there's no rules here i'm
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not an accountant i'm not a banker i don't know math really good but I know they stole these bonds from the guy
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Vanzant and they want to sell the bonds back at 60% of what they're worth right
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and so he can he can make an automatic 40% with insurance coverage or something
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like that as well something like that yeah no he gets 100 100% they're 100%
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covered by insurance but when he gets the bonds back then because they sold they sold
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them to him at 60% his own bonds then he I guess he can resell them and since you
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already spent 60% on them that when he resells them he makes 40% yeah this is
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why I'm not a criminal i get lost in the math and they say math won't help you it even helps the criminals right listen I
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know you have a criminal or two listening please help us out with the math am I right so yeah John does a John
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Voit does a serviceable role playing nate is the name of his character just he seems to be kind of like the
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gobetween a little bit he's the fence yeah that's right the fence is the one that takes the stolen goods and sells
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them he's the go like literally the goal between a fence separating two yards basically yeah okay
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and take the bonds back from us at 60 cents on the dollar and make yourself another 40% so he's talking to the
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William Fitcher character now who plays Roger Vanzan william Fitner we didn't talk about him in the previous episode i
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don't think very much of course he was big in Armageddon that's one of his bigger films yeah he was in the comedy
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show that I actually watched with my wife mom the CBS comedy show Mom i I enjoyed it i watched it with with Becky
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and he was a character in that he played a guy in a wheelchair for that he was
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William Fner i never knew his name but I seen him in everything he was Yeah he did he was one of those as you know we
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called back in the day one of those that guys you know you seen him in everything but you never actually knew his name he
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never had a starring role but he was always like a fringe character background character always played a
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part but you never knew his freaking name he was in Prison Break for 60 episodes entourage for a spell so he's
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been very busy just in TV and TV and movies he's one of those working actors he just has that face and voice for a
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lot of his roles are a little bit you know did you see who he's walking with there
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henry Rollins yeah okay okay so Henry Rollins lead singer Black Flag the punk band i actually this is about eight
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years ago maybe between 5 and 10 years ago i saw Henry Rollins in concert not
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music but spoken word he did a sp he spoke a spoken word he
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did an hour and 20 minutes of talking how is that a concert well it's not it's
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an event or it's a speaking like a It wasn't music no he just spoke about his
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life and things and it was an incredible night really i was engaged for whatever
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80 minutes i even bought a shirt from the event i still have it it was like a a speaking tour
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no kidding yeah i I went So I've seen Henny Rollins on a speaking tour are you
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looking up to see what it was no I'm actually looking at up him because I
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know he's been in stuff oh yeah he's been in TV shows he always plays like a kind of psychotic
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muscle head guy he's been in a good amount of stuff he's on tour right now i think he's doing the Capitalism tour is
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what it's called he's been in a lot of stuff oh yeah a lot of things so anyways
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yeah it was quite I enjoyed it my brother treated me to that thanks Reuben it was Ruben actually
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the Reuben did it was fantastic guy had a great time and I was surprised how I thought "Oh it's going to be kind of
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boring but no he's very engaging and yeah I'm sure he's got stories to tell
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too he's Yeah I was actually just listening to a Conan O'Brien show and he had Bill her on bill her shared a story
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of Henry Rollins meeting David Ley Roth." I know I'm going all over the place here but follow me here so David
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Roth was doing a morning show back when he was doing morning radio or whatever it was or like he was either a guest or host i can't remember it was he was on
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serious for a spell but so it was like 6:00 in the morning or whatever and
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David comes out of what out of the booth or out of the room in the hallway and there's Henry Rollins to his like guest
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gig or whatever and David's you know Bill her does voices i can't do voices
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bill Hater can do voices but he's So David Roth goes "Hey man he's wearing like his Diamond Dave robe
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you know." Yeah this is like 2006 or something like that probably fresh off a bender from the night before this 20
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years ago so he opens up his robe and he has like bottles of beer in his robe or
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whatever like alcohol they're probably not very big you know like little shots and stuff yeah sure he goes "Yo you want
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to drink man?" To Henry now Henry's like he's a straight edge he doesn't do drugs
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or alcohol and Henry's "No man i'm I'm good." You know and David David Roth
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goes "What you go to school
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tomorrow where you going to school tomorrow man anyways Bill Her does a much better
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job but I could just picture that whole scenario but yeah Henry Rollins has a little bit part in this and he's very
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serviceable being William Fischer's go-to guy yeah he's heavy yeah yeah
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literally nothing really happens in this scene other than just it's just interesting that Henry's there but I love how William Fischer is wearing that
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classic the classic headset that's very 90s oh yeah yeah i'm so busy i'm so busy
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i don't have time to hang up or you know answer the phone it's just always on my head good to go so we go back to Dairo
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and Tom Nun's character talking about how you know how do you get this stuff and so there it's here you want to hear
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that an estimate those are exact figures i had a print on here of the cash flow of the bank of the past 2 months how do
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you get this information just comes to you this stuff just flies through the air they send this information out to me
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it's just beamed out all over the [ __ ] place you all have to do is know how to grab it see how to grab it that's
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what I was talking about before like just so just such a soft delivery yeah you just have to know how to grab it
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it's so true grab it yeah the next scene of course is we see Vel Kilmer's character his
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name is Chris did we miss the the scene with Finchner and Henry Rollins
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oh I just skipped through we're not gonna play every scene i'm trying to stick to more memorable oh the one thing I was going to say about that scene
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is like David Vincent in that scene he's like this banker who all of a sudden's
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got a set of balls he obviously has no idea the people he's dealing with who does later yeah and
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he's he's just like "Oh [ __ ] these guys i'm going to kill them." I go I'll see how that works out for you you going to
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deal with these guys so words on the street it's okay to steal my stuff i'm gonna kill these sons of [ __ ] so he
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goes I'm gonna kill these sons of [ __ ] and that's the action sequence you'd mentioned earlier where he does attempt to put a hit on Daener's
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character in that meet and greet and it goes south for those poor guys we'll
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play a little bit of that okay kilmer's character's name is Chris and he's drunk
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on Dairo's floor at his furnitureless mansion uh and Robert Dairo was nice
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enough to call his wife at home with her baby saying "Hey you know your husband's here." Basically Val Kilmer's character
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is a degenerate gambler so he makes good money on these hits but
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he gamles it away what do you think of Val Kilmer in this film in general as an actor rest in peace obviously yeah I
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know that that's a sad one val Kilmer man this was his heyday I loved Val
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Kilmer never sought out things with him in it but the stuff that I saw him in I
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always thought he was a fantastic actor you actually pity this guy he's one of
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the more hardcore Yeah killers in this movie but you kind of feel for him with
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the [ __ ] that he's going through with his wife and the kid that he has and it's just you you kind of want him to
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make it out in the end do you ever notice his elbow in this movie i did yeah is there anything
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behind that i guess we should have read that so let me just see here he's got a huge It's like a tennis ball tumor in
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his elbow it's weird sorry i'm like Vel Kilmer elbow
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heat elvel kilber elbow growth bump so what is there's got to be I'm sure
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people have noticed oh so Vel Kilmer's elbow in the movie Heat was visibly swollen and had an abnormal growth due
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to previous injuries sustainable filming the doors he broke his arm after jumping from a stage into the crowd and the
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stomach failed to catch him leading to persistent abnormal growth on his left elbow this injury is clearly visible in
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scenes from heat oh yeah and Dors was that wasn't long before
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this i guess not two three years i didn't know that it's because of an injury four years previous wolf still
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four years he's dealing with that m so yeah poor guy
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good thing that was the last health issue he'd ever have to deal with so that's good oh no
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all right so he's at Dairo's uh pad so Dairo asks him like "Do you have any
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other stuff on the side?" And I thought he was You know what's funny i was naive to think he was asking "Do you have any
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jobs on the side?" He's asking "Do you have any girls on the side?" I got to hear it in context again
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furniture when I get around to it so he goes "When do you get furniture?" And Dro says "When I get around to it
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Charlene's going to leave me why stakes in the
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freezer of everything we've been doing." So that he goes "Sharene's gonna leave
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me." And Dairo's like "Why?" He goes "Not enough steaks in the freezer." I love the way they talk yeah I know
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clever you know I don't feed her i don't feed her properly but it's not enough steaks in the freezer yeah it's a clever
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way of saying there's no food i'm broke i'm broke and then Darl's like with everything we're doing you're do you
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have money i don't get what's here but look at the scene this is a very Michael man shot scene the color the color
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palette the the angles of Val in the front D on the back then there's a couple of other wide shots here Michael
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man which I I noticed a very thematic type stuff he does as a director very wide shots he loves the wide screen
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shots yeah and the widescreen became a real thing I think in the 90s I think that was the widescreen DVD releases
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wide the big wide screen wide screen you had to get a wide screen TV so you
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wouldn't have the black bar on the top and the bottom yeah that's right so this is definitely you can tell this is a widescreen shot mhm vegas is Super Bowl
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cleaning up so he's gambling on the Super Bowl in Vegas i got around to it
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so then he asks him it's time to deflect when are you going to get a old woman that's going to nag at you yeah when I get around to it he says
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"You got something else on the side?" There you go you got something else on the side when I first heard that because he's talking about money problems yeah
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that's I thought he's talking about okay my job's not paying you do you have something else to help with the finances but I think he's asking about girls cuz
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they're talking about girls goes "When are you going to get a girl?" When I get around to it so that's that context he go but it wasn't until I watched it
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again recently i was like "Oh I think he's actually asking do you have another woman on the side?" Because he asked
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"Does she have something on the side?" And again I thought "Is she making money?" See me just being a normal
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provider for my family i'm just thinking of a financial thing like oh I thought he was talking about "Do you have extra jobs?" Yeah i think the context would
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lead me to believe also he's talking about money do you have anything else but it's girls yeah interesting think of
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the context of girls he says no and then he asks about his wife is your wife
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stepping on you mhm nothing regular but he says nothing
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regular see he fools around on his wife oh and then she got something else on
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the side yeah he goes "She got something else on the side?" She got something else on the side no you sure you sure
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see yeah I'm sure cuz why would you say "Are you sure are you sure she doesn't have a job?" No he said "Are you sure
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she's not stepping on you?" Oh yeah i'm sure yeah yeah i don't know what you're doing
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remember Jimmy Mane on the yard okay so now this is a big moment in the movie of course you know this is where the title
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of the movie comes from what does he mean Doug what does it mean this is that part everyone loves in the movie when the title of the movie gets referenced
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in the film everyone's like "Yeah." Yeah and this is the first of three or four times this line is mentioned
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so set up folks he's just So you remember what Jimmy used to say it's always that guy it's always the wise old
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some guy from Jersey some guy from Jersey that's right you
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remember what he used to say and I love how he's got the quote like down pat memorized oh but that was a smart mafia
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guy but here we go here's the famous line you want to be making moves on the street have no attachments allow nothing
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to be in your life that you cannot walk out on in 30 seconds flat if you spot the heat around the corner remember that
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you spot the heat around the corner of course that's law enforcement so if you got trouble friction if you got
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something coming around the corner that's going to cause friction heat danger you got to be willing to leave
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everything behind woman children friends family or you're in the wrong business and I love how of course we learn later
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Dairo does it follow his own advice of course the power of the P word my friend the power of the P word he doesn't but
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then he does that's for the future that's for a different a different guest
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he's thinking mhm for me the sun rises and sets with him man
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yeah yeah
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okay all right so you got like this mantra that this
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guy lives by and he believes it and he wants his guys to believe it too but he
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respects the fact that Chris loves his wife and his son rises and sets with her
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and he's Yeah and Chris says "Yeah." And he's like "Okay." He accepts that he
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doesn't force his mantra on Chris and you root for Robert Dairo in this movie
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you root for his character not that you want see him win the day you don't want
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to see him whack Al Chino's character but you're kind of rooting for him and
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it's because of scenes like this like he he respects the fact that Chris loves his wife even though he doesn't buy into
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his walk away mantra you know he's a a bad guy with a heart mhm yeah yeah now
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here's another classic Michael man sequence here the another wise shot that's just a great shot there of them
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just at this huge windows you got to hire window cleaners for this house right if you can afford this house
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you're hiding on the ocean yeah oh yeah true
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mhm we are introduced to a new character this is the the poor ex-convict who's
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going out into the world to work to get back into the what do they call that program like convicts go out and work
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and Yeah it's like a co-op thing i'm not sure like if there's a name for it or
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you know something like that it's like a co-op kind of thing like a work release thing you're still under the
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government's watch but they set you up with a job pearl sets you up with a job so you're working keeping yourself busy
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yet you're still not technically a free man
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yet so he played by Dennis Hayesburg which I quite love i became a fan of his
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because of the show 24 was when I really became a big big I seen this film before the show 24 came out but I I just didn't
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know him as Dennis Hayes back then he had a small role in this film but he plays a very for the scene that we have
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with him nothing bad happens yet but uh he plays just you know he's trying to get his life in order he goes to the
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restaurant to work and he finds out that he's yeah I'm really good on the line he probably worked in the jail line goes
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you know I work with food I'm good line the other Guys that's great but you're going to start to clean up the crapper in the toilets
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and come down my parole officer told me to come by here since you had a job for me so
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you're familiar with this kind of operation huh yeah man i'm a great grill man good good for you here you'll mop
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out the toilets hit the dishwasher bust tables and empty the garbage too give me a hard time I'll report you loaded drunk
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or stealing and I will violate you back so fast you have a spoon 25% of your takehome kicks back to me rules it again
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boon check it out to be fair he is new on the job and he gets the bus tables
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he's not always in the toilet he's basically a cleanup crew later we see him on the grill too to be fair yeah
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yeah but for now he feels a little bit bent out of shape about it but it's a start but the guy did say "I'm going to take 25% of your pay." That's the part
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that's the extortion part where it's like "I'm taking 25% of your pay if you don't like it I'm just going to say you had drugs on you and they'll take you
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away." Exactly it's a grift the guy hires cons just so he can get a cut this
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is the brilliance see I don't know Michael Man as a director but no this time to say what
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you see though you need a three-hour movie to extrapolate stuff like this
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like each little character it this guy turns out to be a bad dude but each of
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these minor characters these side characters you actually you garner some kind of feeling for them right this guy
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he's hard on his luck down on his luck fresh out of the joint he's looking for
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some scraps and he gets a job but of course the first thing he gets his [ __ ]
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on so you start to feel for this guy it's like you start to root for the bad guys but you can only do that when you
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kind of flush out their character a little bit now you throw this guy on scene as an ex-con and be like boom
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you're our driver you don't really care about the guy michael Man makes you care about this guy that's where we're seeing
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all his little backstories and stuff absolutely exactly yeah this is where he's taking a little bit of a handbook on this film the Ed's Wick handbook of
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getting to know the characters he's juggling a lot of different characters and relationships in this film this is the most relationship e that he has been
39:51
Michael Man's director in his first film number four or five i think it's Oh
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sorry it's five boy yeah flying through this boy oh boy okay so I love the scene
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here with Dairo he's on the phone with Willie Fischer's character is for the
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drop location and what I love is we don't see why when he's told to be put
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on hold it's really great acting we don't know why as a first- time viewers what what is Robert looking at his
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character he's looking off the distance and it's a real testament to his acting ability where he's so good at being cool
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tough guy it's hard to explain the way he's able to just look at something in a cool stoic badass way that it's actually
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acting to do that i can't do it i wouldn't be able to pull it off i'm such a pansy compared to this guy i just
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can't pull off cool tough i just can't but we find out later he's looking at the hotel motel room that Chris's wife
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Ashley Jud plays plays the character is at so that's what he's looking at but we don't know that at first what as he's
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waiting for the phone call for our audio listeners I'm sorry but for our YouTube listeners or watchers what I'm talking
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about here now he's looking we don't know why he's looking over there but he's looking
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now they're writing down the phone number for them to call him back on a different line so they don't implicate themselves black flag singer Henry
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Roland comes out to grab it takes it
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so he's still looking thing he's looking we don't know why he's looking over there we just think he's waiting for the
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phone call there's a drive on tomorrow okay just send one man alone
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for all we know he could be looking at the bank until the reveal outside the bank kiss so we see Ashley
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Jud kissing Hank Aazeria and Mo the bartender comes out and a
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poo great voice actor Hank Aazeria folks so obviously she is stepping out he was
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right that she was doing that on Chris now I like Ashley's hair in this scene
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it was terrible in the first scene that we see her in but it's really great here just FYI and I do enjoy Robert's acting
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of that tough mafia type acting when you know the woman he's about to slap her
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but he doesn't i I get a kick out of that tough guy shows his aggression in other ways he slams the hangers with his
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hands yeah yeah so Apoo says goodbye
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dro does not look very impressed you know he pretends he's the cleaning lady with the shop yeah I like that you
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know it's very classic that's what gets her to open the door that's a subtle one of those subtle things
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who was that guy nobody who the Who was that guy he's nobody i don't
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know who he is who is he he's nobody he's a legend listen you What was he
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about to say i was you he doesn't even curse he's almost there
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but now Ashley looks very She's like a mixture of so many different actresses here with the blonde hair she looks like
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Catherine Higel mixed with Yeah yeah weird there's so many different looks
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here she's 27 charlie Theon charlie Theron mixed with Katherine Higel mixed with Yeah and she's a lovely woman she's
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27 in this film she looks good here she in this scene specifically yeah that's I mean her hair is really done nicely here
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the other haircut she had or styling she had previous Yeah weird like blowback thing
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yeah so he basically tells her not to see this guy anymore get him out of your life and you have a second chance with
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Chris and he was going to pay she's going to straighten it up with you it's too late i'm sick of it i'm sick of it
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shut up here's the deal you will give Chris one last shot after that he [ __ ]
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up then I will finance setting you up myself on my own any way you want
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dominic will go with you and my word counts and my word counts so he'll take care of her if Chris messes up he'll
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take care of her fair enough so this is the scene here where
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Albuccino does meet Tone Lok at the the bar and this is where he finds out who Slick is you know he doesn't think Tone
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Lo has anything for him but it turns out he says the word slick slick i know that name who's the slick guy i know from
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that one nickname they're able to find out is Tom Seismore's character but I just love the way Tone Lo He should have
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gotten more acting of course he was an Ace Ventura yeah
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he's a goof goofy character in Ace but his voice is so unique i kind of wish he did more acting because I just like
44:41
hearing him talk funky funky cold medina yeah it's the one thing he's known for
44:47
man oh yeah just hear a little bit of his voice styles here i think it's just fun to listen to before we even get into
44:52
that there's this crew ripping rides all along the beach here all right on the
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back of a trim shop on Irvine that somebody wants to pay a little visit this weekend they might find two turbos
45:04
and a 911 so basically he gives him a Fast and Furious setup that's not why he's there i don't care about cars or
45:11
whatever i love how Al gets mad the way he gets mad cuffs the guy and holds him
45:16
by the head here for a second you're looking to yourself of your competition exactly i'm a good citizen i'm Donald
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Duck so you got something to tell me or what check this
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because how do I know if I tell you what you need to know you're going to do what
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the [ __ ] I need to get done richie man Hannah is straight up man we do business all the time because you rap
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[ __ ] and you know cuz I say so after I hear what the [ __ ] you got to
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tell me [ __ ] man you understand what I'm saying i get killed for telling you this
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[ __ ] all right it's not the correct way to grease a CI like you don't call them
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a rat [ __ ] you You know they are you want to be a little more tactful yeah let me remind you you're a rat yeah
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I know i get killed doing this what al's character's bedside manner is
46:13
so it's so funny here and there's a scene coming up I can't wait to talk about but yeah so this is basically the
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scene where they get Slick they find out that it's Tom Seismore's character so it's a big breakthrough for the case
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obviously because it leads him to the crew he has a name to go with the street name
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that's right mhm now here's the meet up and this is a great shot sequence here
46:36
so the meetup is what is it that he's grabbing from the guy again it's supposed to be the Was it the bonds or
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was it cash it's the cash to buy back the bonds okay so it's like an exchange
46:48
so the guy comes up in a Dodge Ram douly
46:55
put your hands where I can now this guy looks like a like an everyday middle-aged man dad very unassuming
47:01
banker looking guy right and Dro has an earpiece in for the phone he's on the or
47:06
on the mic with a Vel Kilmer's character on the roof we don't know that as a viewer just yet but that's what the
47:12
earpiece there is for he does everything by the book here you know give me the package with your
47:18
right hand keep your left hand on the wheel which you know so you can't shoot me but in between the vehicle we have
47:24
Fitner's goons memory says "I'm going to kill those guys if they could steal my money I'm going to kill them." So he is
47:30
going to murder them he almost would have by the way if El Kilmer wasn't on the roof he would have been dead yeah
47:35
part of the shot is seen through the side view mirror so you think that Robert Dairo's guy character should be
47:42
able to see him sneak up on the side but yeah so I mean movie purposes
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script says so we get what's going on so we get a bit of a Doug said at the beginning of this episode we get a bit
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of an action sequence on our 34 minutes here because this stuff that happens after this is a lot of couples we just
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see all the cops with their girlfriends and that's and all the bad guys with their girlfriends we see both the good
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guys and the bad guys with their respective girlfriends and wives and that's why Rob Dairo's character goes up back and hooks up with Amy Brenamman so
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here's the little sequence here [Music]
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and I love the heavy artillery that kind of What kind of gun is that oh it's like
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a probably like an AR-15 like a smaller rifle
48:37
m9 that sort of thing now this right here is the thing that bothers me about this
48:44
scene what was that so you're you have to shoot because of your job right you
48:53
have to qualify with firearms yeah I have to qualify with firearms because of
48:58
my job now as Robert Dairo is driving over those bumps he's aiming a gun out
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the windshield and he's shooting over those
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bumps there's no way that you can zero in on a target the way that the car is moving no
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not only did he have Val Kilmer in his pocket he also had Michael Trio Slick
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Tom Seismore to finish off the driver so here's the scene here they've taken care
49:30
of the hitman that were out to get them they find out that of course that the cash was just a bunch of paper and
49:36
Fisher's character thinks it's been taken care of but no instead of the hitman calling him say the job's done the target's calling him saying the job
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is not done man's Yeah who's this you know what this is
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yes I do yes I do i sent a guy to deliver the package he didn't call is everything right
49:56
tell you what forget the money what so Dairo's character is like "You
50:01
know what forget the money don't worry don't Don't worry about the money you don't have to give us the money." And I love this why don't I have to worry
50:07
about the money this is great forget the money
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it's a lot of money what are you doing what do you mean forget the money what am I doing i'm talking to an empty
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telephone i don't understand cuz there was a dead man on the other end of this [ __ ]
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line you can imagine the dread oh yeah the
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hitman are dead he's is a Jesus is a weasly banker you know what's he going to do to stop these guys his MMO is he
50:41
doesn't do the dirty work himself he has to hire the heavy to do it for him
50:46
this next sequence is there's no real memorable scene but it's a dinner scene with the baddies and their girlfriends
50:52
and wives and Tom Seismore character gives his girl a ring and they're all loveydvey and Robert's looking around
50:58
thinking "Man I kind of want a woman." He gets a little bit horny thinking about his girl they had a one night
51:03
stand with so he calls her up and she even says "Oh I thought we were just doing a one night stand i guess you really want to see me." She say "Yeah
51:09
you know I'm feeling kind of horny here i want to see you again." Now you know who she reminds me of
51:15
have you ever watched The Walking Dead yeah yeah yeah maggie
51:21
lauren Cohen okay it's like doppelganger it's weird i
51:26
could totally see that i wouldn't have picked that out but you're right yeah once you see it she sounds like her too with the accent
51:33
so judging Amy's happy she's going to get laid by Dino again they leave the party the baddies there's Treyjo a
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little cameo of Treyo danny yeah they're leaving the party and then we have the cops up there looking down this is kind
51:47
of a funny little scene but we have all the cops looking down from an upper ledge window balcony doing surveillance
51:55
yeah you got Wes Study there you've got of course Pacino's there they're just saying that's who this is that's who
52:00
that is and it's funny they don't know who Denil's character is of course it's Al's character says "Who's that guy?" Well that's your that's your acting mate
52:08
that's who he's the wild card yeah but of course it's Al's character that says "Who's
52:13
that Robert Dairo guy?" Yeah so they point out Snith Slick is tossed on Seismore they point him out and they're
52:20
they basically just say who everyone is they know him they know who Val Kilmer's guy is here is Christian hairless got a
52:27
revolving tail hung on the house front so they
52:33
got depos that's the the guy talking there is the Bubba Gump actor bubba Gump mhm
52:42
there's a lot of actors in this film eh yeah there is did you notice the one cop just said his name ducker is that his
52:49
name ducker what's his name oh to put the lotion in the basket dude yeah yeah lavine yes yes yeah puts the lotion in
52:56
the basket he's got such a unique voice he does yeah totally i didn't even recognize him i recognized the voice
53:03
before I noticed his face oh yeah puts the lotion in the basket
53:09
where it gets the hose again yeah it gets the hose again
53:14
i might cover Jonathan Demi just so I can do Silence of Lambs yeah yeah i freaking love that movie and I love you
53:21
that's a good one yeah that was your gateway drug right oh I just Man I hard
53:27
crush on her hard like just when I found out that she was barking up the Yeah
53:34
barking up the wrong tree you know what like I told who did I tell that to i can't remember who I told to but was
53:40
less heartbreaking because it's like well she wouldn't have loved me anyways you know not so you justify it yeah it
53:46
was justified yeah she There you go who's the loner says Alpuccino that's Dro's character okay first time we're
53:52
seeing him first time seeing them but you're we're going to talk to him later right so they got wires on everybody
53:58
except Robert Dairo this is a upsetting a great It's a very upsetting great
54:03
scene but the actress who plays the young lovely woman I don't know her name I'm sorry she's done her deed with this
54:11
creepy dude played by Kevin yeah Wayne played by Kev we talked about him last
54:16
episode kevin Gage is his name he hasn't really done anything like of note but what he has done of note is he's married
54:22
two dead women oh wow both of his ex-wives are dead
54:28
h interesting isn't that weird he was married to Kelly Preston for a while oh
54:33
wow who she married John Travolta after him I believe she's hot uh have you I'm
54:39
sure you have seen Kelly Preston like in her prime her heyday oh yeah yeah one of
54:45
the hottest girls alive he was married to her from 85 to 87
54:53
hope he looked different because in this movie well I'm sure years ago
54:59
40 years ago he was 25 so yeah but in yeah I mean it would have been 10 years ago
55:05
from this movie and then he married his second wife in ' 06 Shannon and she died too this scene here it serves one
55:12
purpose is to establish what a monster he is that's what's great about Yeah his
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lovely wife who passed away and I make nothing light about that but she passed away they were married for a while i
55:24
think they got married and then she passed away during their marriage her name was Sharon Paris Knight rest in
55:30
peace but I'm mostly weird for him to have like two women you're married to both dead before you're 70 it's kind of weird it's just Yeah but anyways he does
55:38
a great job and I'm just surprised he's not more stuff because he the way he Sorry back to this girl she does a
55:45
great job acting like a a hooker in the sense of the way she loves the mobs you're great you're the best Lei I've
55:51
ever had she plays it so well like she sounds like what a lip service yeah the
55:56
lip surface is perfect so let's play that out and his your lying to me is so
56:01
you know how quickly it turns you start to feel very fearful for her because you know right away oh she's she's dead
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hey baby time to go showed you good time didn't I it's like
56:14
I showed you good time oh yeah you fly you fly you cool so she's you
56:22
know laying on the charm but cuz she's in a dangerous and she knows this is a dangerous guy now she's a teenager
56:28
according to her character even though the actress is probably 24 or five but she's playing a 16-year-old i can't
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imagine a hooker's perspective but even though the deed is done you're still not safe well no cuz the money hasn't been
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exchanged yet this is the sad thing about this is you know okay I did things
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with you time I got to go baby back on the street you know yeah so she butter
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him up and get the money yeah oh he's scary
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yeah look at his eyes i can always tell when people lie to me he goes "You're lying to me i can always tell when
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people lie." And she is lying he's not wrong there's no way she thinks he was a good time but the way she sauces him up
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here as a worker again very good job cuz she sounds like a worker you know what I mean by that like Yeah yeah yeah i ain't
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lying you a hot dog a regular rodeo rider and this was the monster [ __ ] of
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my young life i I imagine some people just like to be talked up and maybe that's what she's
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playing here just talking him up oh she's trying to She knows her life's in danger mhm let me look at the guy yeah I
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know he's scary it goes She goes now she's real talk she goes "I don't know what's going on here." He's like "You
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don't know what's going on here i'm going to kill you." That's what's going on here and thankfully with He says "The
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Grim Reaper is visiting with you." Thankfully we're spared the murder which is nice
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his eyes stay cold the whole time
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yeah a very clever scene it shows like a beer bottle being popped open cuz that's probably that's what he did to her neck
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broke it back and then he's at a bar drinking and smoking he just kills someone just chill again that's just to
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display what a monster he is yeah you know how I was saying earlier on with
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Dennis Hayesbur's character and I guess Robert Dairo's character how they give you background where you feel for the
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guys the background they give you on Wayne Grow is that you hate this guy oh
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yeah he's a monster he's a monster bad guy through and through you want him to die or you want everybody else to make
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it out which is crazy cuz if you obviously you didn't forget but the beginning of the film they killed three family men or husbands you know what I
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mean went to work and didn't come home that's pretty brutal they they did do that too but it's weird how we have more
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like feeling of anger towards him and to her death and those poor three family men at the beginning is that weird eh
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yeah yeah and we get another scene right here that kind of hits close to home for me because I've had to give death
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notifications before i'm sorry you've had to do that and I mean it there's not But did you do it like him
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he no it's not as sexy and glamorous as Alpuccino but I've had somebody I want
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to show you the scene before keep in mind these two characters in this you have never met each other okay this is
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the poor mother who somehow knows that her sex worker daughter is dead on the pavement for however she got the news
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I'm not sure next kin wasn't notified yet maybe she turns tricks in the neighborhood I don't know which is
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probably very possible so anyways so the mother of breaks the police tape to go see her daughter al stops her doesn't
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really say anything but they but just the way he holds her and rubs her hair
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and slow talks her they It's are we consoling to like sexual intercourse it's like dirty dancing mixed with It's
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a weird It's a little weird it's a little No cuz keep in mind they don't know each other from Adam but look I'm
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sorry you lost your daughter but I'm holding you more now than I I've held a woman in a long time it's so just watch
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and all right after it plays out I'll I'll say my piece so he takes a look at
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the the dead woman a daughter i love Aluccino's I've seen a million dead bodies before the way he responds to
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this like does that pretty that's nice that's nice he says he's chewing his gum dna check on a seaman my
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intuition says it's coming up the same guy so it's a series and ending up in your court sheriff's homicide getting
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anywhere not yet so here she comes here goes the mother a
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as we're watching this focus on Alpuccino throughout this whole exchange
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look at his face the emotion on his face i almost want to add like a Dirty
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Dancing like some sort of like love ballad you're the one beneath my wings or dust in the wind or whatever ballady
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song it just seems like the way they're twirling around and then they hold each other again i need to know what happened
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and she he pulls her back in again oh Kim you're such a But but but look look I know what you're saying and in you
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have to know what I'm saying maybe Yeah maybe I can't remove myself from what is
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actually happening but yeah it's it's ridiculous twirling why are you twirling
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they're twirling more than they did at the end of Beauty and the Beast you know what I mean yeah Beauty and the Beast yeah it is
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there there's a little bit of that going on she's she's full of emotion she's of course you know she's finding out her
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her daughter's dead but him he has no emotion right on his face like the whole
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thing he's done this a thousand times and he's seen so many dead bodies in
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such awful situations that he's numb to it he has no more emotion when his wife
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is screwing around on him he has no emotion he is numb completely to his core and this is the thing with he's a
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grizzled old detective that's the fact of the matter that's what happens over years and we're going to get into it
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next scene with him and his wife but I've done that's notifications before
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and I've had people collapse in my arms when I told them what happened to their loved one but I haven't seen enough
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carnage and trauma to become numb to it it still affects me even 20 23 years
1:02:38
later I still see it and it still affects me because I work in a small town and it happens but I also get these
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big city guys when they work an entire career of this [ __ ] they completely numb
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over i'm not a director and I don't know if this is what Michael man's going for but if I'm a betting man I would say
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that's what he's going for it's just to show how numb Alpuccino's character is numb but dancing yeah yeah he's doing a
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little twirl a little dosey when I saw that I was just like of course it's just
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a movie what you've gone through is real life and bless you Doug for doing that for those poor families cuz I know you
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would be a very good man for doing that the way you would present it i have Yeah
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but for the film it's to see like a hokey beauty and the beast dance i'm not sure what happens yeah it It's dramatized obviously for this he goes
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back to the party where the wife is is he goes he asked her why didn't you go home with everybody why are you still here she's like well I wanted to wait
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for you and she goes you got to be with me sometimes I know you got a busy life all this stuff but when you're with me I want you to be human he's like what do
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you want me to do and this is his answer how do how do you want me to be around you here we go you live among the remains of dead
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people you read the terrain you search for signs of passing
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sure I don't know if I missed it and then you hunt no not yet that's the only thing you're committed
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to the rest is the mess you leave as you pass through what I don't understand is why I
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can't cut loose of you i can't quit you
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oh I think I Yeah I did pass sorry oh did you i thought it was after all of that i thought he had the last word in
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this you know why or here i prefer the normal routine we [ __ ] then you lose the
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power of speech because I got to hold on to my angst i preserve it because I need it it
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keeps me sharp on the edge where I got to be that miss again i think it's coming
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okay you never told me I'd be excluded oh here we go so she's basically saying
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you're not here what you're here but you're not here like typical you're more than your job be with me and
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I get it but it's kind of a trope in movies i understand but I just love what he says you want me to come home and tell you this this is It's just a funny
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line i told you when we hooked up baby that you were gonna have to share me
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with all the bad people and all the ugly events on this planet and I bought into that
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sharing because I love you i love you fat bald money no money driving a bus i
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don't care but you have got to be present like a normal guy some of the time that's
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sharing this is not sharing this is leftovers i see what I should do is come home and say "Hi honey guess what i
1:05:36
walked into this house today where this junky [ __ ] just fried his baby in a microwave because it was crying too loud
1:05:42
so let me share that with you." It's either very big microwave or very small
1:05:50
that's all I could get from it would have been better if he said they threw them in the oven okay pot roast that could fit yeah you roast them but [ __ ] I
1:05:57
mean [ __ ] like this happens look it I know man i can't I know I don't want to
1:06:02
do this on this podcast because I think for the most part we're like a comedy podcast but if you will indulge me can I
1:06:10
get real for for a quick second of course the stuff that we carry with us
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as law enforcement officers it's hard to to explain that to loved ones
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especially like my ex-wife and me there's a reason why she's my ex-wife i was never able to relay the [ __ ] that I
1:06:30
dealt with on the job to her as like a venting process you know what I mean but
1:06:35
my current wife now she was an EMT she's a nurse an emergency room nurse so she she gets it so we have a great
1:06:42
relationship she's much younger yeah i got you we're able to to share that stuff and
1:06:48
she understand she's incredible accident trauma and the suicides and all just the
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ugly yeah the and you mentioned the ugly side all right the ugly side of law
1:06:59
enforcement now is police officers take their own lives at a astronomical rate
1:07:07
because of [ __ ] that they keep in that they can't share mental health is such a big issue and guys are guys and they
1:07:15
don't want to I don't need that they don't believe in therapy and stuff like that i see a therapist i think it's a
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great thing for everybody especially cops because you can't hold that these
1:07:27
guys here these guys in the mid '9s of course this is dramatized but
1:07:32
it's not that far off from what was real back then like those guys were built different they can keep this in they but
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they went home and they weren't like family men they went home and they were in their own prisons and stuff like that
1:07:43
you know at at home while the while the wives the wives raised their kids but
1:07:48
like nowadays you have to get that out because it's the last resort is putting a gun in your mouth and nobody wants
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that this right here I really resonated with him saying that because I know the
1:08:01
fight the battle of not being able to tell somebody that because they can't really wrap their head around it but now
1:08:08
that I am I feel so much lighter because I can talk to my wife about stuff like this yeah of course but yeah that's just
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me preaching sorry no don't be Stop it i'm glad you have somebody that can do
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that for you that's That's good while you're talking about something very serious and powerful I
1:08:25
just found a young picture of Kelly Preston so Oh let's see it please be one
1:08:31
of our topless ones for the sake of the podcast so this is actually a signed photograph she sent
1:08:37
someone oh yeah i'll save it for after that we're on the last scene here
1:08:42
of for today's episode but it's basically now we know that Robert called his girlfriend Judge and Amy and he's
1:08:49
invited her to come to come come to New Zealand or whatever to see the Hobbits
1:08:57
and and he says well she's like why are you doing this i don't really know you and
1:09:03
he explains he's getting a little bit desperate he's getting a little bit long in the tooth and he wants to maybe find
1:09:08
love in his life at this time of life and this is what he says i don't know what's there to know are you married
1:09:17
what you come and go last thing I am is married i'm a needle starting at zero going the other way a double blanket and
1:09:24
all of a sudden someone like you comes along
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you don't know me Ne i know enough so this is the scene where Katie's
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pretending she's judging Amy she loves Robert here oh yeah actually
1:09:40
she looks good in this scene oh she looks She's very pretty her hair is a little bit wonky it's the hair but it's
1:09:45
just it's too much hair that's just like the the way like she she's looking at him she has like this Oh yeah i don't
1:09:52
want to say desperate but it's like a for longing look you know oh she's
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slipping off the chair for sure yeah oh yeah yeah so here's a young Kelly
1:10:05
yes yes that's exactly that error I was talking about yeah this is when she was married
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to Wangro wow can you imagine gorgeous and so she
1:10:18
signed this here all the best to somebody can you imagine being married to John
1:10:25
Travolta trying to pretend you're not gay i know did she has did she have kids
1:10:30
with him i think so she was gorgeous yeah
1:10:37
all right natural natural beauty natural beauty well Doug that is the end of our episode thank you so much for coming on
1:10:43
talking part two of our heat coverage this next 34 minutes of film there is a guest coming on who might be the final
1:10:50
guest they want to be the final guest because apparently they don't like the film they volunteered to come on this
1:10:55
film to shite on it which I'm not sure how I feel about that but well I mean it's interesting to get another
1:11:02
perspective but yeah and that's fair because you know I mean I'm sure they're going to say that it wasn't all horrible
1:11:08
but they have things to say apparently and that's fine okay Doug is there anything you'd like to plug before we
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end this episode yes the Frank Stallone Who Is This Guy podcast it's a about a
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monthly review of of Frank's Instagram and
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his egocentric ramblings and he's a a wealth just comedy you know
1:11:35
unintentional comedy he doesn't mean to be funny but we find the funny in it so yeah Doug and I do that so go ahead and
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Google just Google Frank Stallone hyphen who is this guy podcast and if you want
1:11:47
to hear a couple guys like me Doug roast Frank have good good humor fun with him
1:11:53
we have good time covering his life and we have it on record he watches our show
1:11:59
so and I don't think he's a fan of it but he watches it you don't say so but
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we we appreciate Frank and his his opinions that we comment on we comment on his comments so yeah all right well
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thanks everyone thanks for watching this is part two of heat three more parts to go thanks everyone for listening and
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