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Ahoy there, dear listener!
Your audio pals Steve & Ross are back casting pods around Lake Internet and reeling them in to bring you a review of their latest catch — The Collection II!
And to pursue this totally random angling analogy a little further; there's nothing fishy going on when such a treasure trove of previously unreleased Sammy-era VH treasures are released into the wild and served up for us salivating fans to feast upon with a side order of corkscrew-hair-shaped Hagar fries.
Thanks to Mister Drummond of course for sacrificing his future pension plan by allowing us a peek inside his own personal box set edition, after delicately cutting a tiny portion of the protective cellophane with surgical precision to reveal a glimmer of the goodies within.
Expect insights and outtakes, factoids and trivia, assessments and critiques, tangents and nonsense and loads of silly voices as usual.
Also, if you are so inclined and have access to both a keyboard and next door's Wi-Fi password, please do leave us a review inside your chosen podcast platform's review zone. Whatever we see we'll deffo read it out.... the good, even the bad and especially the ugly.
You can also message or mention us on that angry social place that has since rebranded with a swanky new name that no-one ever uses: twitter.com/talkinvanhalen and on the Facebooks which nobody cool really goes on anymore: facebook.com/TalkinVanHalen
Enjoy the show, dear podpal!
Thank you for being here and not over there.
Fistbumps aplenty,
Steve + Ross at ATBVH HQ.
Your audio pals Steve & Ross are back casting pods around Lake Internet and reeling them in to bring you a review of their latest catch — The Collection II!
And to pursue this totally random angling analogy a little further; there's nothing fishy going on when such a treasure trove of previously unreleased Sammy-era VH treasures are released into the wild and served up for us salivating fans to feast upon with a side order of corkscrew-hair-shaped Hagar fries.
Thanks to Mister Drummond of course for sacrificing his future pension plan by allowing us a peek inside his own personal box set edition, after delicately cutting a tiny portion of the protective cellophane with surgical precision to reveal a glimmer of the goodies within.
Expect insights and outtakes, factoids and trivia, assessments and critiques, tangents and nonsense and loads of silly voices as usual.
Also, if you are so inclined and have access to both a keyboard and next door's Wi-Fi password, please do leave us a review inside your chosen podcast platform's review zone. Whatever we see we'll deffo read it out.... the good, even the bad and especially the ugly.
You can also message or mention us on that angry social place that has since rebranded with a swanky new name that no-one ever uses: twitter.com/talkinvanhalen and on the Facebooks which nobody cool really goes on anymore: facebook.com/TalkinVanHalen
Enjoy the show, dear podpal!
Thank you for being here and not over there.
Fistbumps aplenty,
Steve + Ross at ATBVH HQ.
Creators & Guests
What is Ain't Talkin' 'Bout Van Halen?
Ain't Talkin' 'Bout Van Halen - the definitive guide to all things Van Halen. Join comedy's own Stephen Alan Yorke and Cheap Meat's Ross Drummond as they actually DO talk 'bout everything Van Halen... with a few pointless tangents in between. You'll laugh! You'll cry! Perhaps you'll side with team David Lee Roth or Sammy Hagar. And maybe you'll pick up fashion tips from Gary Cherone and his leather waistcoats!
00:02.23
Ross
Are. Well, my phone is ringing told me it's how me I was man my some hey guy was getting a call from Chairman ma.
00:31.38
Stephen
That doesn't happen every day right? So that introduction this instrumental bit went on for you know ten fifteen seconds and I just really enjoyed like listening to it and my sort of my my my gaze wandered from the screen to the side I was love picking up a drink.
00:33.82
Ross
And yeah, yeah, um.
00:46.74
Ross
Right.
00:49.73
Stephen
And then it I sort of just like it was quite like the lullaby and then when he suddenly started singing and I thought it was you suddenly star and I was going to say you got lovely voice Ross but no, it wasn't it was it was Samuel. Yeah, that would be.
00:52.80
Ross
You he does me hey that would be if I think I I'm in here be so good I feel that that type of singing voice I mean will be talked about this before but you know like that 80 s like power ballad voice.
01:08.53
Stephen
Oh yeah, right if I could turn back time tomrenin.
01:11.94
Ross
That's funny. Yeah, who has got it is that Tom Grain that does the Jullette advert. You know you look on good. You come so far.
01:24.22
Stephen
Yeah, yeah, ease though he's a very good one to do um the best a man can get yeah is there a full version of it is there a lot like a 3 minute song version.
01:28.50
Ross
Giette I love I love that song so much. Yeah, you know hurt the whole I don't know if there's a fool version by I mean it's not. It's a whole song. Let's go verses. Yes, over.
01:41.36
Stephen
I Don't think I've ever Heardd this the verses is it like tips on like um, be ready, but it was like instructions and I to do a good shape and then get some soothing balm and put it over your face.
01:46.22
Ross
You cut your whole face gets on teach you just a little bit get food woman um things a bit mu you were still look really fair. Hit Giette Paul
01:57.90
Stephen
It might sting a little bit but don't worry.
02:06.22
Ross
The best. Yeah.
02:06.42
Stephen
Bo is that you know that Po is that act is there a thing in the song because if there isn't There should be ah and it's like a it's made out a tin. Yeah right.
02:12.90
Ross
Ah, yeah, he he drops a big can of shaving fo on his toe so he went cut went no, That's what we need. You're gonna be a star.
02:23.65
Stephen
This is it. Yeah I feel like there should be a covers an album where rock singers and rock bands cover that song and then it's kind of like the album and it's called the album's called the best a man can get.
02:30.89
Ross
Hold on. Let me see if if it's on stream.
02:41.37
Ross
Um, oh that definitely exists I'm sure with that father. Love this the father's day around the corner. All those like best dad driving songs ever.
02:42.70
Stephen
The best album a man can get oh does it? Well the best cover is it like 1 of those now that's what I call the best album? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and it's like somewhat like Jeremy Clarkson listened to in his song in his in his car.
02:57.83
Ross
Yeah.
03:01.32
Stephen
Um, who would we have in it I'd want who would we want to cover that song I'd want deaf Leppard I'd want ah white snake cover dell sat. Well yeah, oh he's definitely on there. Sammy Agar oh DLRs version would be quite something. He'd do, but he do like a a whimsical.
03:03.53
Ross
Yeah, de leffert. Yeah yet I wouldn't mind Simmy hagar.
03:14.36
Ross
Um, um, and hey shape. And yeah yeah I remember I started a shaeving when I was seven years old no seven months old a little baby down on my legs. We used to tell we used to call it wooden.
03:20.71
Stephen
Ah ice Cream Van Blues version wouldn't he.
03:31.70
Ross
Whip and snippen.
03:34.14
Stephen
I was a whippers-snappper and I was a whip and-snippen.
03:35.36
Ross
Um, you you go down to the you go down to the Santa Monica Boulevard You get yourself a pebble you get that thing nice and sharpy. Yes, go it on your legs. Boom Smooth didn't have much money but had smooth old legcks I Oh here was like.
03:45.15
Stephen
We didn't have much money. Was that where he was safe shave with his legs. Yeah.
03:53.49
Ross
You know we used to go to the Honkytonng pausews and they'd be hunking. They' be tokin and ah my like Oh yeah, oh no, yeah Talcum we used use Talcum powder predominantly. But you know cancers. Oh no, no no.
04:00.32
Stephen
It's probably the only way you could get those um spandex trousers on Sammy isn't it sorry sorry David that was a test.
04:10.20
Stephen
not good is it that's not good I won I want osie osboure to give it a go Jagger Jaggers Inch would be interested in oh the best. The man can get and I'd want. Ah.
04:13.53
Ross
I'm okay.
04:29.19
Stephen
Be like 10 classic classic rock Billy Idol I'd want him to give it a go.
04:33.85
Ross
There is it is a 2 minute long version.
04:39.62
Stephen
Oh god I really want to listen to that where have you found that from is it did where'd you find it Youtube car this sounds like a great invention. Can you play a bit come on. This is what we're all thinking.
04:41.91
Ross
Youtube you you choose. But yeah, look in I don't I play I don't think it comes to because it's on Youtube hold them let me know if you hear this I don't think you will.
05:00.20
Stephen
I pray that I do oh it sound it sounded like a it sounds like ah an alien broadcast from like the 50 s and we're just receiving it.
05:00.69
Ross
If can you hear that.
05:08.16
Ross
Ah, how little us say let me just I'll play it through the speakers because it's not about the audio quality. It's about yeah you know how did.
05:14.10
Stephen
Yeah, it's not. It's about it's about the site I think it will just it. It would be um, it triumph through.
05:24.90
Ross
Looking So you've come Oh and you know how to make.
05:25.59
Stephen
Oh so this is grenan.
05:40.85
Stephen
He's sounding a bit like your man from survivor.
05:48.60
Stephen
Wonderful. He sounds like the eye of Tigerman if you didn't know that was like you know like this sort of like cool millennial fellow with like you know earlier embraceces you'd think it was like an 80 s rock star.
05:49.13
Ross
Um, don't know and yeah.
05:57.38
Ross
Well, he's got previous. He's got previous because he used to do the sky sports theme the found what I'll been looking for be Bo song and he changed the lyrics to that to fit in with football.
06:10.98
Stephen
Wow How did he change them. Do you know God This is great inside information I must say.
06:16.94
Ross
I Can't remember what the original lyrics were but there's a bit where it goes and I can't sing as I hear the magic when the same man day he has like that bit and in the original song. He says something different. They they changed it through it hit.
06:31.24
Stephen
That sounded really good by the way I Just want to say.
06:34.96
Ross
It It means like when they sing the name in the football.
06:37.33
Stephen
Oh okay, if it had been to me between you and grenan. You know you would have got it if you'd auditioned I'm really happy with this.
06:40.13
Ross
Yeah I want to I do want to hear there is a second verse that I've not heard because the advert on the Tv is. Um, double chorus. Let's see so many faces is paint see you. You have to give for. Can be. Yeah attack.
07:20.96
Ross
Um, when the day is done near the champion. Um, yeah.
07:23.95
Stephen
It's great isn't it because it's like all these years. 1 of the main subjects of all types of modern popular music is love who knew that the untapped ideas market was shaving.
07:32.80
Ross
Yep yep.
07:39.71
Ross
Shaven and like the the music the music video the advert is my father and son teaching each other to shave you that you to shave. Do you remember that.
07:41.53
Stephen
Love and shaven.
07:53.32
Stephen
Is it just should be Years's a years of interest. In fact, if ever there's um, a behind the music. Um ah episode about this podcast. This would come out so I'm sort of given a bit of an in interest in Steve all New York fact I have never.
07:56.41
Ross
The pump. Oh yeah, okay.
08:10.24
Stephen
My life had a wet shave I've never done it I've always been a I've never tried it. It's just never come up. It's just never come up where I've either attempted it or I've gone somewhere you know sometimes people sort of write for birth. They will go and have a wet shave as a treat or of the.
08:11.72
Ross
Um, ever What do you mean.
08:21.82
Ross
Think of that smile purpose. Yeah yeah.
08:28.83
Stephen
I've never I've no I think it's because I know I'm so clumsy I don't think me and razor blades are a good mix near throat near my throat. Yeah exactly and I'm like I just don't want to be like you know Sweeney Toddy myself and um.
08:31.62
Ross
Um, you think you you eat. Don't you hear that tonight you hear that Youette song. It's almost like a trigger you like that' danger.
08:47.38
Ross
Are under this.
08:47.94
Stephen
Accidentally slit in my throat. So I've just like and also I'm dead lazy. So like when when it when it came around that time when I was like you know like David Lee Roth shaving at 7 years old um my old man was like here's an electric shaver. He looks like you might be as needed and I've just never looked back because it's just dead easy and I don't trust myself around um blades.
08:53.89
Ross
He yeah cracker I think I did a elect but I I think I electric I use my dad's brawn. It was green I remember the first time.
09:07.57
Stephen
But says 4
09:12.36
Stephen
Yeah I just I just never I couldn't be bothered.
09:13.30
Ross
Electric Chamber but I did I remember reading somebody said if you shave with a wet shave loads. It'll make the mustache hair grow quicker so I was like yeah and I to be fair to me I've got I've got.
09:22.35
Stephen
Oh well. Oh I'd like some of that please and this is why you've got like yeah how many meters long is it now I would say looking at the screen that we're on now I reckon it's probably back five meters
09:31.10
Ross
I've got the best beard out of my brother or my dad. So and yeah, oh yeah, big easily? Yeah I could I I could carry the members of easyeztop on my beard like pull if they yeah.
09:41.80
Stephen
It's like a easy top beard but it's like I'd like a sphere. Well they might be in there. Yeah, it's a great way to hide things that you could hide you know when it's coming to like.
09:49.11
Ross
Yeah, this out of the room and I needed them to come closer I would just come there with my beard.
09:58.82
Stephen
You know, family members birthdays or Christmas you could idle the gifts in your big beard. Honestly, it's looking really good. It's always very well kept ah sponsored by ironically not sponsored by gillette.
09:59.35
Ross
Oh yeah, easy? Well but I know what we should say is you are listening to it talking about Van Halen and answered by Gillette and and this section and this section is goes out to ah. Packo's unique, nickname 1 star pointless rambling sorry I'm not interested in your personal life. Thanks packers.
10:22.44
Stephen
Oh this was a review in it.
10:31.41
Stephen
Oh there's nothing. There's nothing better than ah than a good review or um, which is a bad review. They're very funny and to be fair, He's got a point. Well this thing when you said that to me.
10:39.27
Ross
Guess what I guess I'm ah interested in your personal life either both yourself.
10:48.61
Stephen
I was like you know what? he's got a point but we don't care if you're in it. You're in it and if you don't want it. You don't like it.
10:49.87
Ross
Ah, as we start on the asma that the programmers called ain't talking about Van Halen you got you get what you're giving you get what you're giving.
10:59.42
Stephen
I mean it's very very descriptive. Yeah, if if the podcast was called. We only talk about Van Halen you'd feel I can see how it'd feel short change but it's very in fact I think people are very lucky that we mention or talk about any other work at all.
11:07.25
Ross
Yeah, yeah, very much. So.
11:15.11
Ross
Um, many people would argue that you don't um.
11:17.52
Stephen
But but but we don't I would say out have all the podcasts out there. It's it's probably unique in it. It's the most stubborn Mr Stubborn cast and I'm very proud of that mate. Yeah, thanks, very much I suppose we should? um oh.
11:26.62
Ross
Um, yes, yeah, yeah, me too. But we're here today look on. Please thank you and and I'm yeah, it's Sam I've just stuck pages from the the bible on my.
11:36.20
Stephen
Should ah before we start I'd like to compliment you on your um, your genesis t-shirt I like all the colors last.
11:44.40
Ross
Chest as should just exist. No no, no, no, no, it's just it's that very thin paper So I do apologize you could see my old nipples through the the thinning paper. No I call this like I went to see I want see ah the Band againness Genenesssis I Believe it's pronounced.
11:45.54
Stephen
Okay, always nothing to do with Philip Collins yeah Yeah that's fine I mean like like this always. Ah, it's always a pleasure and is never a chore.
12:01.83
Stephen
Yeah, what is it I always say it wrong? Yeah yeah, they did that terminator film didn't they terminator je yeah it was really good evening didn't Of course you can't tell us in because when all the skins burn off a robot underneath. So.
12:03.68
Ross
Um, yeah, oh again, Isis as well. Which was kind of during the invasion of Iraq anyway, um.
12:15.36
Ross
Was it was that the one when thingy had a big meltdown on behind the scenes and it leaked.
12:24.10
Stephen
Oh no, that was I mean there's so many of their movies that was like that was like 3 earlier I think that was the Christian Bell one yeah ah you're not professional. Honestly I can't believe it. You're turning into my lights.
12:25.93
Ross
But that was was christian male Christian Bale when he was yeah what did he say again is right.
12:40.79
Stephen
Stop looking at me, you're getting in my light honestly are you professional I'm gonna cut you know? are you professional I just punched him in the head. Yeah, it's so funny isn't it.
12:55.52
Ross
Ah, pressed out. Yeah.
12:56.79
Stephen
It's very difficult to come back from that somewhat like that isn't it prefer well but but but then he did have you seen that them will Smith's gone on this sort of like um damage control damage limitation thing now where he's re he's done another bad boys film is like all kind of people kind of realize now I'm not as nice as.
13:10.96
Ross
Um, oh that's internet that fuck yes lap Press Rock What should I do now.
13:15.11
Stephen
What can I do to get people. Yeah, what can I What can I do to make people like me I can't do Independence day seagull because I refused to do that because they didn't get paid enough and I think they killed and they killed him of you can't do Um, yeah because I though I don't really seen any but I don't know if he got killed off but they moved on and they just like what see what another seagul I'll do bad boys.
13:21.19
Ross
That yeah men in black and go yeah exactly Yeah, what are they doing that hot ones and trying to be like hey.
13:34.79
Stephen
Yeah, and he's doing all the press for it and is oh it's not he wasn't a good look was oh yeah, yeah, you'll end up doing the hot ones. Don't they yeah, that's good. Yeah damage the imitat anyway, um Phil Collins was he good when you saw him he's he's yeah he was a bit. Um.
13:40.87
Ross
A.
13:46.82
Ross
Yeah, he's ah he's a not a well man he has to sit down the whole time. He's very frail. Yeah, his back is completely fucked. Basically so yeah, a voice that I thought you can still fucking belt them out. Yeah, it was good.
13:52.30
Stephen
Has to sit down and stuff I think he seems a bit frail all a yeah, that's going to take his toll in it good on him for forgive at a godo and like doing a farewell. It's great cause his boys on drums. A.
14:04.70
Ross
Yeah, yeah, it's really good. They were wicked. There's a whole you know Mike of the mechanics human there. Oh that yeah was at one point the chair at a squeak he went alls that like over yeah.
14:09.50
Stephen
Yeah, well if anything goes wrong, You can repair It can't a he went over with this W D for a and if any of the light and rig goes. Yeah.
14:20.95
Ross
Guitar solo is yeah and light goes is like 1 thing that was annoying is every time before we do it. It'd go into the magical. What's going to cost you that it's that yeah.
14:24.54
Stephen
He got. They got a ladder and he sort of got what.
14:32.48
Stephen
Ah, ah in the mirror because at the end he foots the bill who heat he um I've always thought he talks like this if ever Mark Mike Rutherford speak he talks like this.
14:37.74
Ross
I download like last have an emot. It's a chair Mike though order to get a squeaking chair all right.
14:51.42
Stephen
But but a buh Boomop butop boomoha but Woooooo Butoooo booooop. Yeah, he's got that kind of sing songy Geography Posh geography teacher thing and his's her bubble but Bu Blah but will tell us like at the toy Whoo Bu But wo.
14:51.64
Ross
I think has's got that kind of plummie. Yes, very much sir. Yeah, in fact, he's got to kind of. He's got it kind of the voice that would get mugged off by mechanics because they see and hear that I'd be like.
15:08.51
Stephen
Of God Fly Fuck is him again. Oh god.
15:09.94
Ross
I'm taking this blow for a ride. Yeah, what is it your rolls Royce is fucked is it I am I'm actually mean be meaning to send to you so my daughter loves Thomas the tank engine and we've been watching I've got every single series of the original. Um. Not the cgi bollocks the o ge yeah, so obviously the first 2 series Ringo.
15:29.50
Stephen
Yeah, yeah, the the O G Wooden Toys version.
15:37.43
Stephen
Of course doma the tank engine came rolling down the stage and what's wrong with you clarabel.
15:42.30
Ross
That's it then but then they get this other guy. The scous guy that did it for the rest of it from season 3 to 11 spans like 9090 to 2009
15:51.56
Stephen
Yeah, right.
15:58.31
Ross
But there's 1 episode where the cranky the crane who works the docks he he's he's a right miserable. He's really miserable and he's like you trains are too slow.
16:07.80
Stephen
That's a great name isn't it is he really miserable right? It's not just a clever name.
16:17.24
Ross
We're going need to get some trucks into this on this island and sort things out and the trucks come and they're 3 cocknic esis and it is some of the is like but it's like Percy who's a green engine. He goes what are you doing here you little green goblin.
16:24.66
Stephen
Are they brilliant? Oh what.
16:36.85
Ross
Is like you you but belong want a scrapyard. Why not really like grass like gangsster like much so it. It's like I didn't realize it was a a night at the museum around these parts know it's a proffer.
16:38.42
Stephen
Um, is the essex cases. Well they really intimidating like gangsters like snatch and lockstock.
16:56.31
Ross
I will send you afterwards and I it's very very funny I just think let's talk about Duk Ko accents are there? Yeah, he does all the voices. Oh.
16:56.78
Stephen
Ah, amazing. Oh I'd love to see that so so is that like the scouts fella doing the voice so that would if that script had gone to Ringo that'd have been Ringo doing at 1 point you can't tell the difference can you like they got that.
17:11.41
Ross
Yeah, yeah, it it you wouldn't yeah you would. It's not. It's not like a huge like oh this is you can I like you obviously know it's not Ringo anymore. But it's not as if it's not jarring or anything like that. Um, it's not like they had Ringo star and then they got like.
17:12.26
Stephen
Because I know I can picture him that actor he actually his natural speaking voice as a liver public. He sounds just like Reno star so you can't tell the difference.
17:25.50
Stephen
Now.
17:30.24
Ross
You do in your natural Bristol accent and people like that's regular anymore. Um.
17:33.30
Stephen
Yeah, yeah, that's a bit of a shift. Do you think there is a point when he was like um I'm sorry I don't want to do this anymore I'm not getting paid enough I'd like please stop sending me like that thing when he was like please stop sending me Scripts I will not be speaking.
17:38.79
Ross
Um, yeah I think there's definitely that no more? Yeah, no more scriptpples.
17:49.54
Stephen
Please I will not be saying the words I don't care about engines and tanks. There's no tanks in this show. It's very misleading bees and love bees and love oh he's got he keeps doing these things where he's releasing EP's and.
17:59.41
Ross
Ah, peter love there was a new Ringo thing recently.
18:09.27
Stephen
He's done. He's doing like music videos for him and um, but he keeps some people don't work behind their kit. So if you've ever seen Elton John singing when he's not at his piano if he stood up old in the microphone is.
18:10.62
Ross
Um, yeah.
18:20.72
Ross
Right.
18:29.30
Stephen
Is I mean he was doing dad dancing even when he was like you know young, but it's like he just it does. He just doesn't know what to do whereas some people do like Chris Martin without his piano and his guitar he moves well but it's like but drinko Jesus is a bit of a dad dancing competition is like he he needs to be behind his kit. He can't.
18:31.78
Ross
Um, oh yeah, um yeah, he needs.
18:48.30
Stephen
Move and hold a microphone. It just looks oh God sit I Ma did he was it round peace and love.
18:48.47
Ross
He did n have cheese last year bringer. Yeah her. We just it was to do piece and three then I've been doing all for many many years the same stencils digitally. Spin art I love that I'm honored to be part of this community. It's really important to have a platform to display your art and to be in control of how it is shared and appreciated holders of my Nfts will receive a special invitation to meet the in Ringoland. My first virtual gallery on spatial dot I o I got my.
19:33.16
Stephen
And for the first five people there's potato print you get a free Ringo potato print with a potato made from my own my own back garden.
19:40.42
Ross
And they have all that and it's funny because like Ringo of all the Beatles definitely has the least like.
19:52.68
Stephen
He's the.
19:57.43
Ross
He just does these updates hey ring over here peace. Love everybody. Update yeah, just a few things I did today who still love everybody. He's literally just showing pictures on his phone. Hey.
20:08.40
Stephen
Oh I didn't know that oh I didn't know that oh I'm gonna have to look at that. That's funny. Yeah I've just had a lovely piece of red velvet cake. It went down an absolute treat. See you later.
20:17.22
Ross
It's like David Lee Roth it's the same thing. It's like these old guys got nothing. Do.
20:26.78
Ross
On the Nfg when he went oh what is it did 3 in love if he's 6 finger guys I love doing I can't do everything. Yeah, it's just.
20:27.48
Stephen
Pe and love bees and love I've just sold another potato print and two n f t's I've just done quite a classic number twos it took 3 flushes.
20:44.76
Ross
Yeah, make sure to eat fiber.
20:45.66
Stephen
Bees and love see you next time. Yeah, make sure you have your five a day for a very very effective bowel movement bees and love bees and love specially peas. Very good for the system.
20:58.92
Ross
Ph A yeah melt sweet corn nonnutrition.
21:04.50
Stephen
No yeah to be avoided if if it's green then it makes it good for the system. Keep it clean. Ah what a guy what a guy? um I suppose we should start talking about these boys Notiont we.
21:09.48
Ross
Keep it green keep it on the scene peace and love yeah, but so today. Yeah so today we're talking about? Oh no, oh yeah, oh.
21:21.29
Stephen
We don't want it. We don't want another complaint as much as I've enjoyed this chat. Butddy was's his name was his name the fella whoever it was the thing he's gonna be become. He's gonna be. He's gonna be right in the review like that in caps again. Yeah right? We bet you be? we we come on. We don't want to get on his bad side again. Let's get talking about these boys.
21:32.40
Ross
Packo's unique nickname.
21:37.52
Ross
So well. So in 2023 the year of our Lord last year a little band called Van Halen finally re
21:40.43
Stephen
What we watch there was today's episode about ross.
21:52.70
Stephen
Ah, those guys. What.
21:56.91
Ross
Released re mastered the studio albums from Ninety eighty nine until 2004
22:10.67
Stephen
Also known as.
22:11.54
Ross
The Van hagar or semihagar Era Rome. Ah yeah, must best I think we have yeah um, ah's good.
22:17.85
Stephen
I'm always very impressed when people can roll their Rs like that I can't do it. We might have covered this many times before but like that little daddle dot da da but I can do this little but that's no good, but that is very very impressive. Very good for when you're introducing something when you're introducing someone like that as.
22:29.76
Ross
Collection 2 So yeah Harry yeah, so they did the collection one which saw the davidly roth albums and that was in 2015 so but because we but what's interesting about this one is that so on the davidly roth one. They did all the see from.
22:34.56
Stephen
Very good.
22:48.79
Ross
Van Halen to 1984 they did the 2 tracks off of Van Halen greatest hit so mewise magic and can't get this stuff no more the ones they did with davidly roth and then they whacked on live from Tokyo dome at the end. Um and they didn't put.
22:49.87
Stephen
Yes.
22:56.65
Stephen
Yes.
23:06.78
Ross
On when naked on the corner. Yes, it's 8 volumes the collection so may 15 remasters and then this one I've got the collection too I don't because I have most of the vinyl from the from that era anyway.
23:07.93
Stephen
Any clothes. It's the naked edition. The strict impression wow and you've got that Avenue have you got that.
23:23.81
Stephen
Because you're a mega fan.
23:25.91
Ross
But this one's more exciting to me because it had like balance on vinyl and um o u 8 one 2 on vinyl which I actually do have 4 unlawful carnal knowledge on vinyl but this is a modern remaster. So what we're going to focus on today.
23:42.78
Stephen
That's my favorite one I think we've covered that before.
23:44.83
Ross
Is they did. There's a number of songs that had never and this is why it's worthy of an episode l p five c d 5 compact disc studio rarities 1989 to 2004 you get? yeah.
23:50.58
Stephen
Yeah, right.
24:00.32
Stephen
Love a studio rarity makes it all worthwhile. Don't it.
24:04.50
Ross
And it's the first time where so so I think a apolitical blues was a cover by little feet which I didn't know until I just read it and not to be confused by little boots.
24:18.50
Stephen
Little feet. Ah yeah, very different. Well she's new in town and see.
24:23.92
Ross
Lovely. Ah, and then the instrumental baach terium which ah was off of balance but it wasn't on the vinyl version and then they had humans being and respect the wind which were just on the twister soundtrack.
24:41.61
Stephen
Oh I was just gonna say that sounds twi twisty that was on the other day it was on them I Tv two and I yeah that a yeah twisters very clever title the plural. Um and you can totally hear him throw.
24:43.37
Ross
Um, well, that's it. The new one's coming out isn't it just? yeah.
24:55.60
Stephen
Because I wasn't sure what he did. But I think it was too so but did he do some of the incidental music as well because it's 2 songs on the album is it? Yeah, but it's so funny like when there's it. Oh really.
24:56.70
Ross
Yeah, did well they did that that um humans being was yeah, was respect. The wind is the instrumental which is is actually originally quoted just to him and Alex Van Halen it's not a van halen song e van aen and others.
25:13.95
Stephen
It's funny like when it's all like kicking off the big twister and stuff and you just do this amazing guitar work. Yeah, yeah, it's amazing. Um, so did you where did you get this where did you buy this? did you get it from their store or something or did you get it? Yeah I've been there. Um, very big, very big.
25:17.86
Ross
So so yeah I got on the world wide web on ebay. It's quite hard. Very big cavernists on on that I got on ebay I couldn't find it.
25:31.97
Stephen
Yeah, ah yeah.
25:34.62
Ross
Because there is different places. Sellingnippers are very expensive.
25:36.72
Stephen
Yeah, right we see I tell you what Ross no matter what it is if it's a pair of slippers or if it's a Van Halen repackaged rarities box set is it pays to shop around.
25:47.35
Ross
It does I've always said that. But yes it came out 2023 in fact, actually mammoth wolfy Halen or wolfy to his friends and not to us I don't think he appreciate that. Ah yeah, no, but we'll be in the summer when we yeah.
25:55.18
Stephen
Yeah, well, we're not friends yet, but we will be.
26:02.38
Ross
He yeah mentioned it and this is how I know about it. He mentioned the collection when he did his what's in my bag Amoeba records and I was like I didn't know that this was out so I thought oh of a crack of that. Yes, it's yeah, would highly recommend it.
26:10.74
Stephen
Oh I love that oh I haven't seen his version yet I like that um show if it's the one I'm thinking of you know it's got it like yeah but it's been going on for years isn't it. Yeah I saw like Paul Weller do one years ago and.
26:19.64
Ross
Yeah, with its good shop and and then the guy bought this album and this album? Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
26:28.23
Stephen
So do you think they just rock up to the shop and they just go. We're filming this thing or do you think they organize them to turn up. Yeah, right swipe pace to have a Pr person gotcha god I'm so gullible.
26:30.60
Ross
Press organizing you are public Relations. So So we open with a apolitical blues I'm gonna see if I've never heard the original of this. Let's see if we can. Oh yeah, here's original are will now tell us ah and.
27:10.12
Ross
To me time now there you go little free. Let's up.
27:24.94
Stephen
There we go. That's a short song for um.
27:28.96
Ross
What's interesting here is a bit of me joining the dots here little eat. So if you search for a apolitical blues by little feet. There's 2 versions performed live at the there's a live version called let me restart cop. Always.
27:34.72
Stephen
Rostock join in.
27:46.58
Stephen
Okay, cut. It's why we got it. We got a budget for this.
27:48.39
Ross
But're not gonna do and yet a apolitical blues live at the rainbow theater London 8 a third 1977 it is a church. It's like a weird like but who played their first U K show
27:57.79
Stephen
Ah, what's the rainbow now. So shame.
28:07.76
Ross
At the Rainbow theatre.
28:12.20
Stephen
Is it queen. Oh oh I Really thought I got that right I thought he was tested me. Oh no, really what you is that? Um, right? Yeah um.
28:14.10
Ross
Vanathen Halen
28:19.98
Ross
Yeah in and nineteen seventy I think my better on at the same time I forget the open like have it.
28:29.46
Ross
Yeah, that bowie and almost yeah yeah, we've got a bowie poster from from that era at right there? Yeah and it's cool. Yeah, that wasn she said when I walk past it I'm like oh that was a really famous theater now. It's just this weird big megachurch thing. Anyway, we wish them luck as we do all? yeah.
28:29.78
Stephen
Yeah, that was quite the legendary venue when you see loads of like old posters or say like things like this and the rainbow Oh have you? wow.
28:48.32
Stephen
All Ah, all ah all ah religious buildings. No.
28:48.96
Ross
A you tell questions so a put a apoliical blues was a bonus track and all you 8 1 2 wasn't on the vinyl. So it's only on the Cd and now's the green mess. Why don't know theoretically might just not.
28:58.88
Stephen
Are things like that ever explained why weren't they like wonder wonder why is it like is it a mistake or is it like a choice because of the space. The storage space release things. Okay.
29:06.70
Ross
Fits yeah on the vinyl but all you 8 1 2 is not a long album. It's only nine tracks. So I ah thought they're long. Yeah, well, what's interesting right about all of these and I say we're not going to all of them.
29:15.12
Stephen
Yeah, that's why I was thinking if anything it could have helped bump things up a little bit.
29:25.61
Ross
So they've been remastered.
29:27.44
Stephen
I Would like to ask as a music as as you as a musician for those of us who are aware of remastering but like what does it actually mean does it mean because you know when like is that was a good question. Oh good. Thanks.
29:30.58
Ross
M. Yeah, well,, That's a great question that is a great question. Yeah, what does it act.
29:47.33
Stephen
Because I don't I don't know if it was too obvious but it's like because you know you're aware of like these remastering things comes out through like your favorite albums and whatnot you know and and that's the great thing about the Youtubes you can see things you're in there and you know you've seen like people getting out. You know the old dusty tapes as they were and you know and it's great that things.
29:50.87
Ross
Um, yeah.
30:05.10
Stephen
You know they all that like you know, beheing and rhapsody and all obviously's all crumble in so they got to digitize it and stuff but when they remaster do they just like take I right? do they take the finished track because there is it also or you back the microphone God I'm so enthusiastic about this question when so like say.
30:06.62
Ross
Yeah.
30:21.82
Ross
Um, the forehead.
30:24.60
Ross
Yeah, yeah.
30:24.96
Stephen
When this was done right in 1988 this album at some point they've got all the um ah the layers I'm trying I'm trin it like a photoshop file now aren't I what you call it tracks all the tracks put all together and you end up with a finished track.
30:32.22
Ross
Yeah, yeah, all the tracks. Yeah yeah, the color print me print it. Yes, they print it because in those days as precomputer quite.
30:43.65
Stephen
With a finished song what they call it. Yeah, right? Okay, yeah.
30:49.66
Ross
Right? So they were mixing it in the desk so you would you would play the song in real time and then it would record to a map What they call mass and the master the record master that's like that's it. Yeah, so you depends.
31:00.27
Stephen
Yeah, the master I wrote about the master so is the master the same as the printed track.
31:07.93
Ross
Depends on the thing but usually what they do is from Mike's knowledge of it is that they would so like each set because obviously depending on how long tape is only certain length right? So you would maybe have a tape per song but then you would have a master tape which would have the whole album on it.
31:20.60
Stephen
Well this is the thing.
31:26.87
Ross
Because there's obviously the masters stereo so you don't eat multi-track so you can't actually fit more on the anyway. So usually you're gone.
31:28.26
Stephen
Yeah, right? Okay, what? Well no, So it's just that my question my detailed question my extra layer of question was do they tidy up. Finished track or do they finish up. Do they go into all the individual layers of the Song. So If it's right because it's like so do they do like all the different tracks of the song so because I'm like did that mean that they sort of went into every song.
31:50.98
Ross
That depends so re so that's the difference between a remix and a remaster.
32:05.87
Stephen
They went in and tied up the drums there and they tied up the the violins there and they've tied up the vocal and then they put it all together again or have they just tied up the finished sock. Do you know what? I mean that makes it. Yeah, so is that So what? which one is it ah depends.
32:08.70
Ross
A I f three. Yeah, do you know? what? you mean? So so these ones yeah it depends. So for these ones. So Don Landy did an interview with Tapeop Magazine which is like a nerdy recording magazine and for these he.
32:30.40
Stephen
I Like note I like things like that though.
32:34.48
Ross
Basically just approves the remaster so Ill am I will ah I'll walk you through what they've done here with that.
32:46.77
Stephen
Yeah, tired because it's someone I've always thought because like especially when you get like bands and they do like no classic album one that comes to mind is um, everything must go. Magic street preachers love as you know I love that album but it's like they do a remaster every 10 years
32:52.50
Ross
Um, yeah.
32:59.00
Ross
Yes.
33:02.46
Stephen
And it's like how is that different from the one before is it like did the 1 before actually there was a lot of dust on that one. We didn't get all the dust off. We've now like tied it up where there was a few cobwebs we left behind.
33:07.77
Ross
Oh yeah, well, it's funny. We're talking about this I talking this my ma phil on Sunday football about nirvana did this with a new tros I think they're just in the thirtieth and of verse or maybe the four. No I wanted hit my teeth for. 3 2003 and yes, there's ah they did a twentieth anniversary and now they're just in the thirtieth and the Twentieth Steve Albini who engineered it remixed the whole album and they released a twenty thirteen mix which sound that's going back to the original session.
33:31.94
Stephen
Yeah.
33:45.99
Ross
And doing the knobs and faders and all the twiddly bits individual tracks like Kirk Cobain's vocal. Kirkbain's backup vocals guitar Kerrkman's second guitar the drums, the room mikes everything and remixing it a remaster you can do some of that but usually you get.
33:47.87
Stephen
Of the individual aspects right? Yeah yes, right? Yeah yeah.
34:05.31
Ross
A when you send something to be mastered. You've already mixed it so you don't send them all the multitracks you send them a stereo with an unmasked version because it's all about it's all you have to what they call it very inside baseball now.
34:14.60
Stephen
The finished song or the finished album.
34:22.90
Stephen
Now This is interesting. No I haven't but that's like normalizing is it normal. Yeah.
34:23.20
Ross
But there's that thing called like headroom and it's called out in the loud you know I don't know if you ever heard about the loudness wars and those sorts of things on the radio. It's really loud. Well normalizing is is that is basically what it is or limiting where it's basically you just take the quietest thing and make it as loud as the loudest thing which is why like pop music on the radio sounds so much louder when. Then versus like when you play like an old Beatles Song it's because it's massively compressed and there's not and as as much dynamic range. So the loud bits and the quiet bits are all the same They're all the same volume rather than being literally quieter than louder.
34:42.13
Stephen
Write. Ok.
34:54.12
Stephen
Right.
34:59.18
Ross
Whereas if you listen to kind of old records when it gets loud. You want to turn it down because it's actually actually gotten louder rather than perceived. Um, yeah, rather than perceived loudness I Think that's ah anyway, so so in these on these tracks here like on these remasters.
35:05.22
Stephen
Some movies are like that. Actually yeah, right? okay.
35:18.10
Ross
They've just got and got the original masters of the album So like but sometimes they don't and this is where he gets kind of you if you get really into the audio file world and it actually comes nicely from some doing some research I found is that so like on these ones they've done this thing. And they call it hold on I wanted to do my yeah.
35:41.77
Stephen
Because I suppose some people could like I mean not suggesting it happenss a lot is certainly not I'm near but some people could be like you know Duke the fans of it and sort of say they've redone some it and they actually or and they they maybe have just turned would turn the turn 1 knob and it's technically really does it.
35:53.72
Ross
Um, ah, hundred percent and that does happen that does happen that definitely does happen and it's yeah I think usually when it's just like a re they just remastered it slightly.
36:01.46
Stephen
Is it widely known who who has done that.
36:06.92
Ross
You can a b them and you it sounds identical like you could put it through a wave analyzer and be like they have done literally nothing here. They've just you know versus like the so anyway, here's what they did for Ah, this is why I wanted this little bed hold on.
36:14.10
Stephen
Gosh.
36:20.86
Stephen
You can row your Rs again.
36:25.70
Ross
Mobile fidelity believes that mastering systems should be neutral and transparent. The essential idea is to unveil all the detailed musical information on the original master recording without adding deterioration coloration or other sonic artifacts mofi. Ultradisk 1 step instead of utilizing the industry standard 3 hree-step lacer process mobile fidelity sound labs new ultradisc 1 step udones uses only 1 step bypassing 2 processes of generational loss. While 3 step processing is designed for optim and yield and efficiency udones is created for the ultimate in sound quality and then it goes out and on and on anyway, that's what they want for these? Um, thank you.
37:10.21
Stephen
That was that was a beautiful presentation now we now we try so technically we've got I don't know who is the company that to do this amazing so them and Gillette need to be sponsor in this episode because they both had some big commercial shout outs. Beautiful presentation. Mate.
37:19.98
Ross
Mophi Mofi do and o five? Yeah yeah, get me on man. Thank you? So but yeah, so basically when you go and make a vinyl record. you get the lacquer master yes you get the master
37:29.52
Stephen
Beautifully read which you've done for those who don't know you've done.
37:37.50
Ross
And then they have the stamp and then they make and then they do so but then there's extra steps. So the idea being that you get the're very original and then instead of it so they they show that they're like the way that they make records vinyl records here is to get the the original then the father then the mother then the stamper then the vinyl. But with ultrades 1 step they get the original the stamp straight to vinyl. So there's not that degradation I did correct copy of a copy of a copy that is based 3 but so here's what's interesting. So these remasters do sound better I've ab them and also it's the first time.
38:00.87
Stephen
Oh right? right? right? right? So like a photocopy of a photocopy of a photocopy right? And that's better isn't it.
38:16.29
Ross
These have been available as digital downloads and again from a nerdy perspective if I use title instead of Spotify because you get fully lossless audio. So when you listen to an a Cd you get 44.1 Kilohertz at 16 bit audio that's like.
38:25.30
Stephen
Oh so does note that so.
38:32.90
Stephen
What does that mean like regard to like it's as in you mean that that's a good thing. That's what I mean that's a good thing as in that's really close to how it's intended. Yeah because all the compression Amazon Spotify is into I've read about that.
38:35.46
Ross
And that's good as yes this this it's called Lossless what went in correct so you think about it like you see like on the call we're having now you can see those waveforms as we're speaking So that's fully dynamic. There's no compression happening.
38:50.21
Stephen
Yeah, yeah, especially when you talk mate.
38:55.15
Ross
The moment soon soon as you compress it. You're basically chopping off the highs because the highs are you can humans can hear less of or the high frequencies get chopped off and then and then the more you compress it the more The fidelity is.
39:04.79
Stephen
You write.
39:12.28
Stephen
Yeah, yeah, yes, yeah, so it breaks up a bit like.
39:14.12
Ross
Muhler and you end up with it. It sounds shitty and the only reason you get and it sounds shitty the louder you crank it so the interest yeah or just sounds like crappy if you like I remember with the first I I borrowed my mates rio m p three player and it had 128 megabyte storage and i. Compressed these songs from a Cd from 4416 bit wav files so lossless which like 1 song would be like sixty megabytes down to like half a megabyte.
39:34.47
Stephen
Wow.
39:50.80
Stephen
Yeah, right? Okay and wav wav is good. Isn't it.
39:52.45
Ross
So like why was lossless. It's fully lossless. It means it's yeah, it's It's a lossless audio hearing everything. Yeah.
39:58.16
Stephen
So it's like it's the fully. Yeah, so when I do voiceovers when I do them from home. You send it to the client stuff. They always out of Ave asked for wav Files Yes, certain like compression and stuff. Yeah, and.
40:07.71
Ross
But did I ask you to make sure you're so here's the quite. The difference has to be 40 Yeah is it forty Eight Thousand Hurtz or and 24 bit so so there yeah so Cd is 44.1 and
40:17.12
Stephen
48 yes god it's yes I'm just picturing the um settings on them the thing. Yeah.
40:27.19
Ross
16 bit fully modern digital recording is 48024 bit so it just means there's more information there and because you've recorded to tape all the tape has everything which is why they can you know like when you watch films like they can take old tape films.
40:34.61
Stephen
Right? Yeah, yeah, and then it's.
40:45.29
Ross
And upreds them to be four k five k whatever and it looks amazing versus Charnville versus ones that are shot in digital. They can't do that because the date is not there. Yeah correct I like they just did an amazing they did. Yeah it is and if you watch.
40:47.46
Stephen
Yeah, because they're shot in film right? That's why the Seinfelds are really good. Aren't they because they were shot in film which is odd for a sitcom.
41:02.67
Ross
They just remastered four k of David Bowie I'm afraid of americans music video. Yeah in four k it. It's mad because it looks it looks like brand new.
41:08.60
Stephen
Have they really? oh wow I love things like that whether it's visual or audio. Um, and it's like you're hearing it for the first or seeing it for the first time oh talking about reissue bit controversially what Charles Martin is done with um.
41:14.18
Ross
Um, yeah, yeah.
41:25.91
Stephen
Um, some of the Beatles stuff. Ah recently because use Peter Jackson's technology what used on the get back movie of isolating all the different parts even the speech when they're just talking in a room and then you sort of can use that with music isolating the trumpets isolateing the drums and all that stuff so therefore it allows for remixing stuff and controversially he's done.
41:26.56
Ross
Um, yeah, and yet.
41:33.95
Ross
Um, is ah yeah.
41:45.74
Stephen
Um, at you know Mccartney and Ringo's request he's um done some. They've reissued the red and blue greatest hits albums and he's done. It's weird because he's put like they've put some new tracks on that we're never on especially the blue album that weren't ever on there which is fair enough but then.
41:53.00
Ross
Ah I didn't know that.
42:00.31
Ross
Heart.
42:04.70
Stephen
Is 1967 to 1970 the blue album but then they've put on that brand new song that they've just brought out which John Lenland didn't even do the demo of until like 1980 s so that doesn't really make sense anyway, but they've done new mixes and the one that springs to mine is um I am the walrus.
42:14.34
Ross
Um, yeah, right? yeah.
42:23.16
Stephen
There's like a 2023 mix and it is like hearing in it for the first time because it's almost like they've done it not to sort of well I think this is fine right? because you've already got the original that's out there. That's banked. It's like bullseye was great for the international audiences that's safe. You got the money safe that's banked and it's like.
42:31.50
Ross
Um, yeah.
42:36.66
Ross
That's safe. Oh you're safe in it.
42:40.95
Stephen
So you but it's almost like a so like ah, an experiment that sounds great that they've just shared with everyone. So it's like especially when the the dial changes of that and you can see here like King Leard the like the radio play and stuff and you you eat and all these sort little adverts like you hear these things. It's like oh it's.
42:51.12
Ross
Um, ahead. Oh yeah I think that was that.
42:55.85
Stephen
It's like listening to the first time it's like it doesn't max. It's not cancel out the original that's still there out there but it is really wonderful this it makes it. Yeah it. There's a reason for doing it say whether you're up up scaling a music video. As long. You know as as long as the information's there for us sight if for a is shot and phone. It's just wonderful.
43:11.53
Ross
Reminds me? Yeah no I agree it is awesome because I think Phil was telling me on Sunday that on let it be yeah was have called it. We went he he.
43:18.61
Stephen
Was this Phil collins by the way. Yeah, yeah, great. Yeah.
43:27.13
Ross
Paul Mccartney says if you listen to let it be just before they start the Nas the na and na somebody shouts fucking hell. So if you go listen to it and once you hear it you can't not hear it is like 1 of those. Um.
43:37.70
Stephen
Ah, amazing. Well.
43:43.23
Ross
I don't know if I don't know if there's a truth to it or I wonder if it's on those like new reissue to the Giles Martin thing where they found it and they've gone. Oh'll go.
43:50.15
Stephen
Wow, it's like that thing that was um, dropped on Tom Grunan's foot really is that not yet amazing. Yes, sorry.
43:51.62
Ross
Yeah, exactly. But so anyways come back to our remix repaches thing. So when I was doing a bit research for this charge. So Don Landy is remastered these he get sent them. He has a listen. He says.
44:07.00
Stephen
Ah, and he sends a back double thumbs up.
44:09.88
Ross
So fucking bro get him to the press Double thumbs up, Tell you apples and pays get him downstairs hey pretty much oh yes because I was like oh this is really interesting because obviously ah.
44:19.81
Stephen
That'll be 50 grand please oh wow. Okay.
44:28.60
Ross
Greg Ranoff who friend of the show. Ah he asked him ah like and that's how I learned about this ah about this um, remastering process because he's like Alice is like most recently this is ah Greg Ranoff
44:29.32
Stephen
Yeah.
44:48.20
Ross
What is Greg Ranoff's voice. Did we ever do it. We didn't do when we cu most recently you've been working with Van Ayen on some reissue like the 45 rpm mophy releases of early Van Halen and rhinos remasters of the hair guy Ray albums what has your role been or listen to them.
44:51.81
Stephen
Yeah I doubt him.
45:07.90
Ross
Um, what they send me and so far I've approved them their master in vinyl processing pressings are better than ever. It's hard to imagine a better method of producing vinyl records can I go that done the on if I can.
45:20.37
Stephen
And you hear it from the man. Yeah, um, and even if you do want argue with it. Don't because you'll stuff you up. Ah I'm sure your thumb likes being a neighbor to your fingers.
45:27.70
Ross
You like your fingers. Yes I do good. Let's keep it that way. Yeah, exactly Yeah, if you wouldn't mind getting that thumb out your fucking asshole at fucking you know.
45:36.87
Stephen
Wouldn't like to be separated. And send me these tapes so I can look it I can glance at them and then return them.
45:44.92
Ross
Get other my hearing is absolutely fucked because I'm well why approve these masters. Yeah, our money Killer Hertz I'll kill your hurts.
45:56.17
Stephen
Ah I can't hear much but they sound great to me.
46:02.74
Ross
So this ties in nicely. So when I was doing this research I don't know if you ever seen these or or if you ever came across them in the 90 s in the 90 s.
46:03.65
Stephen
Ah, ah, brilliant.
46:13.59
Stephen
Back in the 90 s do you remember? but 90 s when you could just get a Cd from walworths for 90 I b a single of course not an album. They cost £28 that died. And if you wanted to be on the cheap. Just go home and just watch it on abtv watch the video.
46:31.46
Ross
Um, they used to be these gold disc versions of albums the for like audio find now these are like actual gold 24 characterat old Cds. Yeah yeah, yeah.
46:37.38
Stephen
I remember like people get presented gold discs when they so sell a lot. Oh I don't know about that. What. 24 current Cd. What I think you can tell by my page that I've never read about this before.
46:50.20
Ross
Yeah, so this company called Dcc made them. Um and then I saw I was just searching through tapeop actually for Van Halen mentions I found an interview with Andy Johns who did 4 unlawful coral knowledge. It's quite interesting because he and him and Samy Hagar didn't get on anyway, that's that's by the by.
46:53.43
Stephen
Good gosh.
47:05.27
Stephen
Oh that's another episode.
47:08.69
Ross
But this guy Steve Hoffman did the first fan Halen album on Dcc Gold disc and I have listened to it I download I found it I found a copy of him on the internet.
47:22.72
Ross
Yeah, no know I have listened to it and it does sound loads better than well no, not because it's on gold here's why this is quote from Steve Hoffman in fact let me put it in the chat Steve so you can read. Steve Hoffman
47:40.63
Stephen
Okay, Steve Hosman Steve Hoffman and what does Steve Hoffman do he's the reap. Okay, ah okay, ah if that.
47:47.14
Ross
Um, he is a he was just ah ad an all do engineer.
47:57.91
Stephen
Great I've heard the regular cd of that where's their bass guitar on there but on the master tape. It's really nice. It sounds really good. But apparently the tape I used was never used to make anything. It was just the original mixes and they were made. Copied to a more easy to cut version for lp and that was marked as master the same old story but that's what has been used all these years to make everything the cds to lps the copies for england all. Other countries. So the original master has this nice full sound. It still sounds like Vad Halen but to me, it's just more of everything fancy your cup.
48:47.67
Ross
Just Dave yeah, every yeah you can tell why he works behind the desk. Yeah.
48:52.33
Stephen
He's got a lovely voice to me aggressive but bor him they've never put him on reception scare. Everyone off.
49:03.31
Ross
Hello I'd like to book some studio time.
49:09.43
Ross
Is a bit is a bit like Miss Piggy meets like an aggressive brummy.
49:09.50
Stephen
But opening to-morrow at 9
49:19.17
Stephen
Meets Yeah, yeah, exactly That's a very lovely beautiful fusion.
49:22.92
Ross
Ah, ah, but yeah, so basically the vert so to your point about these master tapes. So this Steve Vladd he found the actual master tape and not the one so with the originals and was able to use that rather than this other one that sounded worse.
49:36.34
Stephen
Oh.
49:41.20
Ross
Because it was a copy of a copy about well yeah yeah, and I bought but I think under well I remember when I worked at Sony.
49:41.48
Stephen
Right? right? right? So what was that just lying around and he found it or is it nicely sort of dock. Sometimes these things are nicely filed but sometimes things people find things in lofts don't they all the time.
49:59.46
Ross
And I never got to go I always wanted to and I had spoken to people but then they were like you don't want to go because the people that will let work. There are really weird but the proper archive the Sony music archives in the u k where like where the masks you know like where the masters for stuff are oh 100% and like and it's and it was no.
50:10.14
Stephen
Relay. Is it like probably temperature controlled and stuff in it.
50:19.32
Ross
So one of the people I worked with their job was to try and digitize it. But it's you know it's one of those things. Yeah, it's one of those things though where it's where where is this and then there's like this guy this like you want to know where the clash is and you like.
50:24.77
Stephen
Ah, white gloves white gloves.
50:33.19
Stephen
Like.
50:38.82
Ross
Yeah I would like to know where oh come with me I think I remember Yeah yeah, well this is and it's and it's and I think it's that it's that and and so they don't They don't know everything they have because stuff just gets to pull.
50:42.68
Stephen
This reminds me you know, look in them in the Harry Potter there's like that lived in the library. There's the forbidden section and there's like goblins I'll show you throw and stuff is like that.
50:58.73
Ross
You know like a label will work on a campaign throw it all in a box and be like you know clash London colon and it is put in a warehouse for years and never seen again until they and go and it's the tab. Yeah yeah, and at the time you know it's like nobody.
51:09.67
Stephen
And because it ought yeah and there's too much. There's so much to do in there.
51:16.84
Ross
Even if you're a big band I'm using the class because I remember that just being a or like I remember they did Adam and the ant and stuff adam the ants and stuff like that and had like found all this shit that had never been released demos and like all and and that's where you know when you get that like for the first time ever run blah blah blah blah it's only over bootlegs. Whatever it's because it's that shit.
51:25.39
Stephen
Ah, really.
51:30.80
Stephen
Yeah.
51:35.75
Ross
They find it and then go through the whole thing.
51:39.70
Stephen
I tell you whoever is bought um a camera't remember what record company that them David Bow is a estate sort of almost sort of I don't know it seems bad I don't mean they they sold it all off but they sort of you know is they bought his. They sold his back catalog to a record company.
51:53.34
Ross
Yeah.
51:56.70
Stephen
If it's universal or something or one of those anyway but they' um because you know it's slights bit like George Lucas Selling Star wars to Disney becauses. It's like well iin't gonna be around forever and you know that it's goingnna be looked after I mean that's a bit deb debateable good if the star wars goneance but you know, but as in a big company can look after it and I think that's what the thinking behind it was it was like they can um.
52:02.30
Ross
Um, yeah, you own us yet mean.
52:16.48
Stephen
Look after it the back catalogue and sort of so since it's you know since he's sadly passed and stuff but they've a few years later they've started bringing out like these sort of records with these rarities and you can tell that they're maybe finding things that they didn't find before but this wait for big for mega fans just like oh my god.
52:26.52
Ross
Um, yeah, yeah, totally and I think if you've done the funnel with yeah with like pens as well. Right? like.
52:36.39
Stephen
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and it's and you know there are physical releases and streaming things you know and it's like know a version of you know this song that you know perform once on stage in France in 98 and things that and so I love all that stuff. So yeah, it's treasure trove.
52:45.43
Ross
Right? And 1 of it's the thing. The fact that myself included fans of that Edie Van Halen is like at 101 there are tapes and tapes and tapes of songs that might not have any lyrics on just ideas.
53:03.82
Stephen
Yeah, well, that's like princes as well isn't it.
53:04.84
Ross
Right are just snap. Yeah exactly and it's just the idea of that is yeah Alex ah, really cool. But I I mean a lot of it probably won't be very. He's still a human an artist create music but from a very nerdy fan perspective that just the idea that you could go in and be like here's him and it.
53:15.90
Stephen
But we would be just.
53:23.35
Ross
And and it's been like the beat of like the chat in between and you know like all that stuff they that you know.
53:26.11
Stephen
Yeah, well I feel like the anthology project was at Ninety Ninety five that paved the way for all this stuff because I think don't I I could be completely wrong, but I'm not sure if that was ever done before releasing an album with all these like outtakes and basically outtakes and talking and stuff and it is.
53:30.00
Ross
Um, yeah.
53:39.40
Ross
Oh yeah, certainly like on a large scale where with very much like here's all the things that we have and these different takes and then it's like 5 yeah like 5 takes the same song one of the yeah because I have like yeah well yeah.
53:45.49
Stephen
And alternate versions of songs. Yeah, yeah, yeah, like take 1 of strawberry fields. And yeah, yeah, there's an appetite for that.
53:58.61
Ross
And like for pet I have that for pet sounds as well where they had like you know, take 1 without strings and you can hear Brian Wilson going ba you need a guys. Can you turn down the fire engine r um, you know listen Mad I love the button. Yeah me too. so anyway so yeah so look well, we'll play a few tracks one there you you go look.
54:06.68
Stephen
Yeah, yeah, love all that stuff. Well, that's very helpful I've always wanted to know all that stuff choose.
54:17.57
Ross
But first time ever, we've actually gone that deep into tech.
54:20.50
Stephen
Yeah, and I know you know it's a bit narrowy but it's dead interest in I think because I've never I didn't know that stuff and you know and and someone who's done it and knows a lot about it but has also done it and stuff. It's like you're the man to ask I mean good work.
54:23.34
Ross
Oh yeah, was he.
54:32.28
Ross
Yeah, so so mostly tracks people will have heard so today a a political blues. There's balloatorium I don't even know how you pronounce it b a l ballock ethereum belloctherum bell ball let's play it.
54:46.75
Stephen
I like this so I like the way that sounds.
54:53.00
Ross
Are. Um, got that didn it I mean um ba catherium.
55:19.69
Stephen
That sounded really good. Can you say Balllic Athereum with roll in your eyes and in but the middle now good work. Yeah, that sounded glorious.
55:30.96
Ross
But in this one crossing over this before a play anymore. This is the only Sammy Hagar era or maybe only van halen bside ever.
55:48.44
Stephen
Really, What do you mean? what? they'd never did be besides what was on the beat. What was on the other side then of their of their singles. Ah yeah, you want to explain to the listener. What you just did ross.
55:50.59
Ross
Ah, there is no.
55:58.33
Ross
Ah, so that.
56:04.90
Ross
Listener I just gave Stephen to middle fingers. But yeah ah I yeah I think they probably have other album tracks. Maybe I don't actually know the answer to that I just know that this.
56:08.28
Stephen
You flip you you flip the birds you flipped it at a gaggle of birds. Yeah, ah I bought a couple of singles I think I got a couple of singles from a o you 8 1 2 when um.
56:20.65
Ross
Passing over.
56:26.58
Ross
Um, yet.
56:27.43
Stephen
At the time some seven inches but I can't remember what was on them. They're probably in loft somewhere with all the other ones but um because I don't got a vinyl player. Um, but ah yeah, it's interesting in it. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
56:34.18
Ross
Yeah, so this was a that was this is a B side on I can't stop love on. Can't stop loving you. It would turn out to be the band's only non Lp B side. How do you feel about that.
56:51.92
Stephen
I Think what? um do you think they they did that because hit all the stuff for the album had been like sent to print and they had it left over and it was like or do you think they didn't think it was his good quality. So let's just use it.
57:01.73
Ross
Well, they used it as a japanese it was like the japanese bonus track back in the day. Yeah, and I guess it was maybe because this is like 96 so it was like different.
57:09.69
Stephen
Oh yeah, right? Okay, they're always, they're always good aren't they I like a bonus track.
57:19.75
Stephen
Yeah, right? okay.
57:20.55
Ross
And here we go well look. You can read that do you want to read this for me. Oh Don oh they've done that thing where you can't copy and paste hold say.
57:28.65
Stephen
M.
57:34.46
Stephen
Of oh for goodness sake.
57:39.67
Ross
Ah, can I What's up have you got your phone on you I What's up it to you.
57:42.43
Stephen
Yes, Okay, thank you, Thank you very much I'll tell you what you can say about this podcast but we're very technologically um, advanced.
57:44.57
Ross
My pleasure. Oh yeah, and this is a this is a work reading this from ultimate classic rock Guygho Christopher you can you can send out. He likes.
57:58.88
Stephen
Okay, oh christopher is he like a he's a um, okay this is Christopher I'm gonna read him in the style of David Coverdae there was already a burgeoning controversy with the balance cover art in Japan.
58:07.51
Ross
Okay.
58:16.49
Stephen
Because of its depiction of siamese twin children on a seesaw the artwork proved to be a stark reminder to residents of the country of conjoint vied me twins ved and cooped nudin who was said pardon the expression but I tried my best. Who was said to have experienced their birth deformity due to the usage of agent orange by the us in the vietnam war the pair was separated with the explicit assistance of the japanese red cross in one eighty-eight in a highly publicized surgery japanese consumers were so repulsed by the balance-cover art. That it deeply affected sales Warner Music Japan had anticipated some sort of reaction and had a backup image ready to go with just 1 child on the seesaw for pressings of the album in that country released one week later than the original import version. The japanese edition quickly began to sell better than the us pressing it was one of the rare cases in Japan where the domestic out sold the import as the region typically had difficulty selling Cds manufactured there because of the inlet because of the inflated price tag. Balance sold for a box' approximately $ 4 more David Coverde sometimes stumbling there due to the excess use of Jack Daniels at 11 a m.
59:42.39
Ross
Um, ah David thank you? Yeah yeah, know.
59:43.55
Stephen
Ah, um, there that's interesting into god artworks are such a big part of everything isn't it even like even though like it's kind of been like largely ignored I think we've talked about this before aren't we. It's largely ignored. You know, not like not like it was um, but even on the Spotify and stuff the thumbnail images is like is make such a difference and it's great even with these thumbnail images and stuff you can see people still do make an effort with the artwork. Even if it's just one image is.
01:00:09.53
Ross
Um, oh yeah.
01:00:14.13
Ross
Like.
01:00:19.51
Stephen
You know it's not just like you know, white space and Elvetica just saying the names you I mean it's like it's it's it's good to see I think though it's a great documentary about oh wass it called circling the circle the one about um Hypnosis The who did all the great album covers.
01:00:22.23
Ross
I agree. M or.
01:00:35.78
Ross
Um, oh that's cool.
01:00:37.13
Stephen
From the 70 s seventy s eighty s it's on the Netflix is um ah that's listener Ross and listener I thoroughly recommend it. Um, it's called square in the circle. Um, then the thumb. No no what Gallagher's on there funny enough because he's talking about it. And is um, packed with rock stars. This documentary tells the vibrant story of the design duo behind some of the twentieth century's most iconic album covers and um, yeah, these like 2 guys and they you know all these amazingly know I think they did Zeppelin stuff in. Um.
01:01:10.92
Ross
Um, oh cool this? um well here's a bit more of crossing over I don't know if we did talk about this on the balance where I think we probably did. But.
01:01:13.10
Stephen
Can't remember what else they did actually but it was a great documentary Thoroughly recommend it.
01:01:21.37
Stephen
Okay, well you know that was a few editions ago.
01:01:27.30
Ross
Are.
01:01:34.88
Ross
Um.
01:01:41.72
Ross
Da da da da da da da da da da da da da da.
01:02:00.69
Ross
Um, sorry I should say this song is about um Sam ha I learned to cross the street.
01:02:18.48
Ross
Are.
01:02:40.56
Ross
Um, across ah do make um, see it sounds like he's talking about talking to the Dead Bay It's not. It's about people on the roads.
01:02:54.76
Stephen
Across in the street. Yeah.
01:02:57.75
Ross
s got he just holding said out just wait for the green man and I yeah Pe baby. Do do do do yeah pop pop pop pop pop pop pop up. Yeah, so they will.
01:03:03.15
Stephen
You know when you got the um the the noise it tells you you can cross the road is like on the pelican. That's the kind of that's like those riffs and stuff. So what was his party. Yeah, that would be um, a great ah road safety. Um campaign.
01:03:17.21
Ross
What I will tell you what I will say sorry it does sound like a beeside I dissolve this good branded tab wearing the t-shirt. It's a fuck got bit of a genesis vibe too. It's bit progate at the start with a dooo do yeah and then so.
01:03:22.30
Stephen
I Enjoyed it though I enjoyed I judge likes like some surprise Love I'd never heard it before it is a bit proggy at the star and it untapped territory is.
01:03:37.70
Ross
The other tracks we've got are the 2 ones from an twister. So there's respect the wind which is about a time when somebody got terrible flatulence. Yeah.
01:03:49.97
Stephen
Well it happens doesn't it. We've all had too many beans some especially baked beans. We've sat in the bath.
01:03:54.22
Ross
Yeah, and then and then this humans being which I don't know if you remember I'll see if I think it's in humans being is yeah, you've heard it before and it's the one that I think it's I think I remember reading the thing see if I can pull it up a bit.
01:04:03.90
Stephen
That sounds familiar humans being.
01:04:13.75
Ross
Ah, whole of human being Van Halen because they wrote it and basically the director of the of the twister film here's Wikipedia.
01:04:16.16
Stephen
Humans being.
01:04:28.34
Stephen
Is that what caused the tornado Sammy Haddar is wind. That's probably what it is't it for oh before you know where you are your rouse is in Os.
01:04:30.60
Ross
Um, oh yeah, yeah, dorothy. Yeah yeah in January Ninety Ninety six as the band rested following the end of the balance ambulance tour in November Ninety Ninety five and rate Daniel suggested to Ed Van Halen and his brother Alex to write songs for the movie twister singer Sammy Hago is reluctant to work on the tracks as his pregnant wife Kari Carrie was expected to live for the child in April and he felt the van halens should fix their medical ailments and he was walking around with a canine painkiers because of a hip injury and I was at a neck brace.
01:05:06.21
Stephen
Oh dear god.
01:05:07.40
Ross
The end night five if it's too them fall to pieces I I'm just trying to see if there's a bit. Oh maybe it isn't I Just remember.
01:05:20.20
Stephen
It takes this toll this rock and roll life I Tell ya.
01:05:21.61
Ross
He was like I don't want the song to be about turn. Oh he goes humans being was written by with Alex as sami wrote a ballad with Eddie between his 2 was originally named by the singer as the silent extreme but Alex eventually gave it the new title. The songs lyrics proved a major source of contention Alex called the films director yan de bot to ask how closely he wanted the lyrics to be related to the movie's context to which debantte replied oh play. Oh please, don't write about tornadosh. I don't want this to be a narrative for the movie ah Hagar obliged and then asked to bump for some footage of twister considering that filmed out with the infatuation people have with fear and how it can suck you in. He decided to write lyrics about how sometimes you're afraid to fall in love with a chick but she sucks you in anyway.
01:06:17.37
Ross
Deont and Budar also sent haar a folder with terms used by storm chasers as the singer felt he could add lyrics with terms such as suck zone the brothers still dislikeed hagggo's first lyrics the first lyrics probably were sky turning black knuckles turning white headed. For the suck zone. So yeah, which does yes basically they're like don't write about tornadoes and then I'll and some here I was like how about these lyrics about tornadoes.
01:06:39.68
Stephen
Wow! Ah, amazing.
01:06:47.76
Stephen
Now imagine that's all great. Imagine if that have happened during diamond dave zero if that was a bit nuts when Sam is involved and it was like this Susan met because there they can't talk about tornadoes.
01:06:55.30
Ross
Oh my god.
01:07:07.40
Stephen
And it's like said I just find this other way in what the what would he have done I mean it's like he'd still have been right in it now.
01:07:08.76
Ross
Um, ah my way man maybe spinning a cocktail swizzling that stick high? No, we just like the fuck.
01:07:21.27
Stephen
Oh God The budget would have just spent on finishing that track and they would have had none for the wind machines. They wouldn't have had enough money to put the elect The the electricity for the the fans on.
01:07:26.19
Ross
Um, well here's bit is is it a human being. Are. Um I like this song I Actually really like he was being up but it makes me sad that people think was very good I Remember the music. The I think it's the last music video they made as well. So like it's the last live all of them together in daroom.
01:08:10.47
Stephen
Oh okay, so it's like a that's um, yeah, that's like a special thing that in it. Um, yeah I like it was on the other day twister. It was like 1 of things when he was like I think we watched a movie.
01:08:18.82
Ross
Yeah, um, yeah, the respect. Oh yeah.
01:08:28.90
Stephen
And then it was just like on you know, whatever channel and it was like we watched it. It was really good. Actually I've seen it in so many years the effects stand up pretty well actually because it' 9090 six yeah the this is yeah which which does look a bit stupid even though that probably happens but whenever you see things it does look like it's from um.
01:08:30.92
Ross
Yeah, oh maybe I'll get it on the back cows flying around more. Yeah.
01:08:46.79
Stephen
What's it called the wizard of ours and stuff because those images and it's like chickens that are the same size of cows just like floating around and things. But yeah, yeah, it's pretty good actually.
01:08:53.22
Ross
So so that's I mean the other ones are the 3 that he did I mean Sammy Hagar's lyrics never is strong a suit but you remember so that so those the those are those so that those Sammy Haon 95 96 and they obviously didn't do any more songs together until 2004 when they did the best of both worlds album which has got it's about time which got that really good riff which goes out this.
01:09:17.19
Stephen
Mm.
01:09:41.96
Ross
Um, um I mean when that came out was very excited poor. Ah yeah, well the worst one is up for breakfast I Remember this one.
01:09:50.31
Stephen
That doesn't sound familiar to me that.
01:10:15.73
Ross
Um, what would say with all these let's pause there. Yeah was the same I think it's ophe. It's the same synth.
01:10:25.63
Stephen
That sounds like fair on air there theret there there fine air and air and air there that beginning bit right.
01:10:34.83
Ross
He's just on the old and he's got the old filter on it. No du hole have this for these are all really cool riffs completely ruined by somebody. Well.
01:10:38.10
Stephen
Yeah, we're ok.
01:10:46.75
Ross
Are. She treat me like a person Jesus got to handle the where' gonna he you penis? Um finger find right around the tree. Um.
01:11:13.22
Stephen
Is a well.
01:11:23.83
Ross
Ah, crazy. Um, but differently.
01:11:28.17
Stephen
I Mean if it's not like you got enough to shout about if you got enough to to sing about then you must be well is it. The red is the red rooster. No the red rocker. Yeah with a yeah, well good, good good on your mate.
01:11:38.54
Ross
Um I got rock off. Yeah, the big old big old red which still they oh yeah.
01:11:47.69
Stephen
That's probably out there online in it somewhere we can. We can probably we'll everook ourselves. Yeah, ah yeah, oh good on him. Wow There's a lot to boast about isn't it.
01:11:50.96
Ross
Is capital lab of yeah. Yeah they're up for breakfast lyrics again I think I've just got like stockholms and drum with Van Halen where I know these are bad songs by love.
01:12:09.10
Stephen
Yeah, but I think if yeah, but you want but I think that's the thing though you if you're aware of it. You can still enjoy it you remain I think that's all right? God Do oh God we've all got bands like that and we you should start with up for breakfast.
01:12:13.37
Ross
Yeah, it's height. It's like sit to hey can where should I start with Van Halen i' be like next to track to Dis 1 best both worlds I think the chorus is even better harderer. Let me just see um.
01:12:26.88
Stephen
Yeah.
01:12:34.54
Ross
Um, see but Clean. My coffee is singing and propose but fish Mountainana do not need a sample. No. Well well well up, it's all about a Rot land roll.
01:13:08.42
Stephen
It's all this all sexy into it's all about yeah, it's not is. It's a bit more. Um, it's a bit more of like a kind of um, ah for those British listeners is's like a carry on film is like oh like just.
01:13:20.50
Ross
Is base on think what I can't do what's his name. What was he called the old you know old that the pop cat of Williams I can't do a kind of but.
01:13:24.85
Stephen
You know it's not like is over is um Kisses Love gun.
01:13:31.17
Stephen
Oh Kenneth Williams no but of my biscuit. No and then that of was his name Si James yeah yeah cherry in the morning. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:13:36.27
Ross
So yeah, yeah, well.
01:13:47.49
Stephen
Not only is that go not only gonna work internationally. It's not going to work for anyone under a certain. No yeah is some Yeah, it's just really, it's just really like a innuendo' it. Yeah yeah God that would have been in the interesting music video.
01:13:48.00
Ross
I know they're very good I knew can he it the kind of kind of invoice it. Great. Oh just so full on like proper viz viz linx. But yeah, so. Just oh, you can imagine. Well, there's funly enough because obviously it wasn't long after this when Eddie Van Halen did those soundtracks for those soft porn films. Do you remember that? Yeah no.
01:14:13.84
Stephen
Oh no, have we done. Ah, sound Oh are we kind sounds that we're not are we was or what was the what were the films called just for a friend just ask him for a friend.
01:14:21.76
Ross
Um, I think I played the music from him before oh ah I yeah just if I was I see I'll just more than happy to search for it. So so for Van Halen soundtrack I don't think he was when he was.
01:14:34.26
Stephen
What was he doing that for a mate.
01:14:38.68
Ross
Not in a good way old Eddie ah.
01:14:43.50
Ross
Here we go. It's called the film is called sacred sin and this song is called Katherine hold on to see if I can.
01:14:43.89
Stephen
It's an interesting way to fill your time.
01:14:48.93
Stephen
Wow sacred sin with music from Eddy Van Halen Explicit 18 rated are you must watch completely naked. Ah, people with clothes will not be allowed in the theatre.
01:15:09.65
Ross
Ah, he got.
01:15:44.16
Ross
Um, yeah, it's all the video is just at Yvan Halen in fifty one fifty with a shirt off the.
01:15:49.27
Stephen
As you can see Ross I'm highly aroused right now. Ah ah, good work. Everybody yeah well but that's that's a lot.
01:15:52.90
Ross
Ah, see you're up for rope with Stephen oh that's coming. Yeah.
01:16:02.62
Ross
And yeah, we have what an informative episode I've got nothing else to give you? yeah.
01:16:04.10
Stephen
A lot. We've learned a lot haven't we one of um of just as a final thing I suppose was the um, did they make a bit of an effort with the artwork at on the box set thing is does it look different or is it have they yet done anything different at all or anything because sometimes they repackaged things don't know in.
01:16:23.57
Stephen
Almost like it warrants spending a few quid on it if it's oh yeah, that's oh yeah, are you never gonna take out the cellophane.
01:16:25.11
Ross
It's it's a very beautiful and it's got the you know it's got the Van Halen here and it's got the years on the side. So if you have both. It's got the 199079 to 8 4 then eight six ninety six
01:16:40.90
Stephen
Yeah, you always gonna keep it pack wrapped in the cellophane. Yeah, then I you know? yeah I respect that um.
01:16:43.54
Ross
But I guess the cool thing is this this studio rarities album which obviously has new. Oh yeah, yeah, oh and I've opened it.
01:16:53.63
Stephen
So I What have you just like that. You've just kind of put a slit down the side to allow that to come out. Oh yeah, um Wass this what's that there? Oh excellent. Oh yeah, so it looks like it is from that you know the that the photography is from the balance Era isn't it.
01:17:01.63
Ross
So these are all the tracks I play today. Are it's extra vinyl. Yeah yeah, definitely is. That's fun last year
01:17:12.50
Stephen
Amazing And when did this come out again. Nice Yeah, well, it's it's a great um addition to the ah the ah the bands Treasure trove of your personal collection it or is it is it got like pride to place have it like on a shelf or anything.
01:17:21.70
Ross
Info.
01:17:27.54
Ross
It's in its on my shelf. Yeah.
01:17:30.19
Stephen
Yeah, nice, you do i't got it like an a like a separate vault or anything in his own safe.
01:17:34.99
Ross
Ah, well I did check see if it was limited position but it's not so no I didn't bother I Think you're nice.
01:17:42.10
Stephen
Yeah, us ah, that's a beauty really nicely packaged I really like the outside the simple of the black um ah box and just like the VH and is it silver or is it white. Yeah beautiful mate beautifully done. Yeah lovely bit of kit. Um.
01:17:49.42
Ross
Silver Earth yep love that a kit that not it.
01:17:59.37
Stephen
Well night. Well, you don't want any you know make sure your daughter doesn't have't put any jam hands all over it. Kids make things everything sticky don't they but do oh did she? what did you play? Do you play any the young the icec cream man or something at that. Yeah, let me go.
01:18:00.76
Ross
Oh no I have played about Ale I should like to like.
01:18:09.60
Ross
I Just play I Said do you want to know about the birds and the bees she said yes and I played her up for breakfast in full I said read these lyrics and learn.
01:18:19.10
Stephen
There we go I wish I have had and taught that in school in that in that way things good.
01:18:21.62
Ross
That and then you just got you got given a packet condoms and electric razor went off you go Mr York all right I is happening.
01:18:30.85
Stephen
Good luck, Good luck Mate I You know I and I and you know I Still don't know really naugh to do with them hand handy for carrying water in if it.
01:18:40.23
Ross
That's why you've got such a big beard because you you put the cons over the razor. Ah well your miles your mileage may Vari as they say yeah.
01:18:43.88
Stephen
Yeah, is that not what you're supposed to yeah is some that's way the coolest some 9 the um, the beard twins the beardy twins but for podcast for very each podcasts.
01:18:54.88
Ross
Like yeah, we're we're like it's easy top. But for um, for on Niche Niche podcasting. Yeah and ironically both of our surnames don't and is ah and then there's obviously that producer who's got beard in his surname and isn't that funny obvious trivia.
01:19:02.64
Stephen
Yeah, yeah, nice.
01:19:08.55
Stephen
Oh that is funny isn't it and ironically we're yet to be nominated in the niche podcast awards I know it's weird isn't it especially in the Van Halen section oh my god well actually haven't said that if anyone's got anything.
01:19:15.51
Ross
Um, know I know well if it wasn't for all these pesky people leaving these necks over. Heres.
01:19:26.54
Ross
Nice to say how love my mind I Wonder how what I would love to know because you don't get those stats is how far that person listened to and went fuck this and then and then went and.
01:19:27.57
Stephen
Um, good or bad Honestly, the fact that anyone's like interacting is is a is is lovely.
01:19:39.95
Stephen
Out or in I reckon is 10 minutes yeah it's funny I was um I was looking at some of the other ones actually um.
01:19:44.31
Ross
And then went and left review.
01:19:53.77
Stephen
Ah, can't remember when it was it yesterday anyway I looked at some of the other ones because you can still see them online and if there are when there are a couple I say most of them are pretty positive aren't now they go like yeah you know it is you know it's all nonsense. Yeah, and but but yeah, exactly and but the negative ones when someone sort of goes.
01:19:57.30
Ross
Um, yeah.
01:20:01.82
Ross
Um, well words if people who get it get it and they you're like this is fun and it's silly and they don't I all just you know one? you know wrong.
01:20:11.97
Stephen
It's just like I'm like yeah you're probably right mate. There is a there is a lot of nonsense. We dode tweet. Do start talking about the boys porograph halfway through. Oh yeah.
01:20:19.29
Ross
Yeah, as we've always said I just refer to say I see you've left me once our review just remind yourself what the name of the podcast is yeah, take us to trading standards and see how far you get mate you move.
01:20:29.61
Stephen
Yeah, exactly it quite literally does as as um, as it says on the tin as they say in Avaric world. Yeah exactly and there's no need to read the small print because it's actually in the big print. Um, so yeah, so if anyone's got any reviews to leave good or bad. You can find us at.
01:20:39.13
Ross
Yes I like.
01:20:46.90
Ross
And the podcastcast app is good to your app podcast part from your choice. You have a podcast lot of.
01:20:47.45
Stephen
Ah, oh well people leave these reviews. Don't they in the pod. The podcast platforms but you can also contact um on at talking Van Halen on the on the x's now rebranded even though everyone still says Twitter um, at talking Van Halen on the Facebooks.
01:20:56.25
Ross
I from van alin on Twitter Era oh yeah I all the points for.
01:21:04.24
Ross
Yeah, yeah, that's say then Steve I are on. Yeah you can vi in the internet if you look odd enough. Um and I was from. Yeah.
01:21:07.13
Stephen
And that's it and it we're not on instagrams are we I'm at the Danday Ross is at Ros Drummond and you lovely listener are beautiful people for tuning in I think that's why I'm up isn't it.
01:21:15.97
Ross
Have you got anything about you know? Yeah I love that wind up there I could say you got anything else. You want to plug or anything Steve you finished your um, all year good mornings.
01:21:24.95
Stephen
Ah, oh yeah, so my art project the year long art project project just finished doing one image every morning to wish everybody a good morning on the social networks. Um, ah you can see that I'm at the artful Dandy because on the. I just said I'm on the other things I'm at the dany. My art stuff is at the artful Dandy and you can see all that and various nonsense on there just finish that and um, ah, there's always other adventures in there and all loads of nonsense to go on with the 2 to to plug. But I think I'll leave it. There.
01:21:44.70
Ross
Are.
01:21:52.19
Ross
Oh yeah, oh like that and no all right I go book now just click the cracker.
01:21:59.21
Stephen
About yourself. You got anything to plug at the moment Ross nice. We just us um, just ah, just us doing this um, beautiful piece of ah band based information and sometimes with infomercials with ah gillette and that other um.
01:22:10.10
Ross
Do you learn about remastering today. Yeah, and Mo mostly sound the stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they gonna be a problem with the beards but listen no one's got a price.
01:22:17.73
Stephen
Company I can't think of I like to think that those companies will get in touch and say a big thank you with them big fat check yeah yeah, exactly I will shave this off for £10 um see you next time listener.
01:22:28.90
Ross
Right? Yes, 1 bye bye.
01:22:35.45
Stephen
Good-bye.
01:22:37.48
Ross
Are. Are.