Need a dose of creativity and accountability? Hosts Monica and Candace are prioritizing ART and talking about it in a real way. One take, no script, and no filters… just two humans inviting listeners in for a fun weekly chat about what they’re making now and what is inspiring them.
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Speaker 1
Okay. We're starting. Hello. Hello and welcome.
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Speaker 2
Welcome to as we Art.
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Speaker 1
As we Art episode 99.
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Speaker 2
Woohoo! We made it! We're here! And that's it. Now we're done.
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Speaker 1
That's the last single digit episode.
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Speaker 2
It is. It's crazy.
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Speaker 1
Wow. Nine weeks.
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Speaker 2
We're, like committed. Yeah.
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Speaker 1
We are. It's an it's a it's a thing. It's happening. It's a habit.
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Speaker 2
You folks are stuck with us. Sorry.
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Speaker 1
So if you're new here. Welcome. This is a podcast. This is a YouTube channel. And we are talking about art. I'm Monica.
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Speaker 2
I'm Candice.
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Speaker 1
And we're talking about art that we do in the here and now this week. And we're also talking about our inspiration.
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Speaker 2
Yeah. We also want to hear from you. What have you been working on. What's inspiring you. Watch while I move my mic a little bit. Yay.
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Speaker 1
And for those of you that are new here, we learn as we go. We are not experts by any means at anything we're doing or talking about.
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Speaker 2
So no, we use Google a lot.
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Speaker 1
Yeah, we're tweaking it. We're figuring it out. And that's why we're here. And we want to know what you're working on. What art are you working on? What new projects are you undertaking? No, no.
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Speaker 2
Trying gives a new meaning to the undertaker.
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Speaker 1
You want it to have that as a job?
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Speaker 2
I totally did. I wanted to go into mortuary sciences.
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Speaker 1
What? What about it specifically, drew? You were like a kid, and you're like, I'm going to have a funeral home. Like, way.
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Speaker 2
Well, I didn't want to. I didn't necessarily want a funeral home. I wanted to be an embalmer. Honestly, I think it's probably because your customers are quiet. If I'm being 100% honest.
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Speaker 1
Oh, my God, you wanted to not be the people facing person, obviously, but. Yeah, dealing with dead bodies.
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Speaker 2
Yeah.
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Speaker 1
Okay.
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Speaker 2
But bodies don't scare me. Gore doesn't freak me out or anything, and somebody's got to do it, you know?
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Speaker 1
Yeah.
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Speaker 2
Yeah. But then I found out it's all about making money. And I was like, no, thank you.
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Speaker 1
So, Yeah. God, everything's a profit. Yeah. For profit.
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Speaker 2
And everything's a grift. Yeah.
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Speaker 1
Oh, what a grift. What is.
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Speaker 2
That? It's, like a scheme for money.
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Speaker 1
I like it grift. We learn new things every day. I do anyway, I don't know.
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Speaker 2
The Merriam-Webster definition.
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Speaker 1
Yeah. No. Fact check. Yes. Okay. All right. Candace. Who's going to go first this week?
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Speaker 2
Why don't you go first? Monica.
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Speaker 1
Okay. Well, I did have a plan on showing y'all what I worked on, but that plan went to shit when I tried to move it from the glass studio to the podcast table.
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Speaker 2
That happens.
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Speaker 1
So I worked on stained glass this week. That's one of the art forms I love. And actually this week it's an interesting I drew a pattern, cut all the glass for it, and then hated it. It didn't turn out the way I imagined. This was just for my own project. This wasn't for the ongoing project of the, literature inspired panels.
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Speaker 1
This was just something I wanted to do on my own. So I drew, a profile which is missing from my pattern right now. So because I cut it out to reuse it for a different. And I tried all these circles at first and it it wasn't what I imagined it to be.
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Speaker 2
But you cut all the glass first.
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Speaker 1
I cut all the glass, every piece. I know I wasted a little bit. I repurposed the glass by cutting it into different shapes.
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Speaker 2
It's never a waste. It's always just experimentation.
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Speaker 1
Thank God it's such a privilege to be able to have time and resources to try different things. And experiment. Yeah. But I fished this out of the trash for this, podcast, so you're welcome, because I will never make this pattern again. I did blue circles when and where they overlap. I did like a greenish teal. And then I had this face, genderless face as a mirror, glass.
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Speaker 1
And when I stepped back and looked at my creation, it looked like someone hiding in a blueberry bush or something. I mean, it was bad. I was like, oh, that's nice. Not what I pictured.
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Speaker 2
Violet Beauregard from. Yeah. Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.
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Speaker 3
Oh my God.
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Speaker 1
But I liked the mirror profile that I had cut, and so I kept that. And this is what I meant. I meant to show the podcast about the swirls and triangles that I change the pattern to. Unfortunately, when I tried to carry it in here, it all, it wasn't. It didn't it didn't. It all fell apart.
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Speaker 2
Tough to move things at the cutting stage because nothing's like tacked to a board. Nothing's held in place in any way.
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Speaker 1
So lesson learned. Yeah. So from now on, when I'm at the cutting stage, only I won't be able to show you once. It's, ground and foiled before soldering that I. It's all perfectly and like, compact and I can show you. But that was that was a good lesson learned. I'll still grind over a piece and put it back together.
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Speaker 1
Pro tip from a non-pro. If you're a glass artist, at each stage, take a picture. Because I took a picture of that after I cut it all, thank God, because now that it's all shifted, I'm going to need to rely on that picture to put it back together so it all fits in the rectangle again.
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Speaker 2
Yeah, it's like a jigsaw puzzle from hell.
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Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah. And they're all sharp, so I have to. I already just move. I already had to use a bandaid just for moving it today, so I won't be showing you the the other panel. I did three panels this week. The circles, the triangles. And this as part of the ongoing literature inspired Harlem Renaissance covers. I did cut all of the class for this cover and it looks so good with the orange sun.
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Speaker 1
It looks.
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Speaker 2
Awesome. I've seen it. I'm not to brag or anything.
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Speaker 1
I am really happy with how that came out. So I'll be, posting pictures of that. The the why we're mentioning pictures is because if you're listening to this podcast, you're missing out on the visuals that you see on YouTube. And so don't fear, we have a solution. Yes. Follow.
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Speaker 2
Us on all of you.
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Speaker 1
For those of you just listening, follow us on Instagram as we art podcast because, we accompany each episode with pictures of what we're talking about. So I cut through panels of glass this week. Felt really good to be able to change around an experiment. And then this coming week I'll do all the grinding and solder, foiling, potentially some soldering.
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Speaker 2
Nice. Yeah.
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Speaker 1
What art did you work on, Candace?
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Speaker 2
My week was kind of more like experimentation and not necessarily, finished product.
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Speaker 1
Projects. No. Tea product? No. That's good. The experiment part.
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Speaker 2
Yeah. So I was experimenting a lot with linocut. Inking and different papers and printing methods, and I got a new tool for printing. So when you hand print, you have to use, like, really equal even pressure on the paper in the ink. So I got this. This tool is called a baron. And it's what you push on the paper with against your print to get the ink to stick to the paper.
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Speaker 2
And this one's made of glass, which helps a lot because it's extremely heavy.
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Speaker 1
Oh, it's heavier than I thought. This is awesome. What's it like? How do they make it?
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Speaker 2
So I found one that was hand-blown glass, by seller on Etsy called Light Fast Press. And, it's awesome. So far, so good.
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Speaker 1
Purple and white and yellow. Yours. It's really cool. So I did notice a difference on some of the prints you did this week. You can show this one where I thought the the black the solid black looked more uniform. Is this to blame.
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Speaker 2
Is more even part of it is I'm learning the inking process better. So getting, you know, even ink and not missing spots and all that fun stuff. But yeah, the pressure from the the Baron is a huge help.
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Speaker 1
Aaron. Yeah, I thought it was called a prayer. Is that something?
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Speaker 2
There's a lot of b words in lino press a B word. No fun ones. A brayer is the rubber roller you roll the ink out with. Okay. So you go from brayer to Baron.
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Speaker 1
Brayer to Baron. Yeah. That's every activity. And yes has its own lingo. I mean every sport, every occupation, every job.
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Speaker 2
Like, yes.
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Speaker 1
Bayer and Breyer, Breyer and.
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Speaker 2
Baron. Baron, not Bayer and Baron.
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Speaker 1
What's the football team in Germany that you like?
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Speaker 2
It's oh my God. It also begins with a B like bear. Adds Bayern, FC Bayern Munich.
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Speaker 1
Wait, what is this again? I'm serious.
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Speaker 2
Oh my God, it's a bear. And I feel like this is a test.
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Speaker 1
Okay.
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Speaker 2
What did I get on my S.A.T.?
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Speaker 1
Monica, you scored. Perfect score. I think.
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Speaker 2
You I.
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Speaker 1
I have trouble. I mix up words sometimes, and I won't say it again, but you do like a certain football team. And it reminded me of this talk of.
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Speaker 2
FC Bayern Munich.
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Speaker 1
Okay.
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Speaker 2
Is a football. Soccer? Yeah. For, you know, people who think football is tackling each other and wearing helmet soccer.
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Speaker 1
You're a big soccer fan, but we call it football internationally. And yes, okay, I won't ask again how to say the difference between this tool.
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Speaker 2
No, it's fine. It's just felt like a quiz. Apparently no Alzheimer's yet. Okay, good. We're good.
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Speaker 1
There. You're lucky.
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Speaker 2
Yes. So I worked on just printing with some different inks and stuff, and this paper is very difficult to pick up, so. Pardon my scratching. I just printed, like, my my first linocut. I wanted to try printing it on different papers, and I tried gold. They.
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Speaker 1
Look like different, totally different pieces of.
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Speaker 2
Art. They really do.
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Speaker 1
Just. It's interesting. So it's the same color ink, same linocut with the spaceship in the moon, but because one's black and one's white, it looks totally different. Yeah. That's awesome.
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Speaker 2
So just a nice representation of how much your paper and your ink can affect the way a print looks. Wow. So it's really interesting. And then the other thing I worked on this week was trying to get some final prints of No Complaints Done. So it finally has the little grumpy go stamp.
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Speaker 1
Yes.
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Speaker 2
Which I hand carved and printed on everyone. And yeah, they're now numbered and signed and still drying, so I will be very careful.
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Speaker 1
That's so great. This is so fun. We, Good job. Thank you. Especially with the new tool.
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Speaker 2
It looks the FC brayer Baron.
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Speaker 1
Oh my God, I feel so bad. That's incredible. Thank you. Ink. Yeah. It's nice to have a completed project and to mess around and experiment with different things.
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Speaker 2
So, yeah, I don't love the way the final turned out with the red. I feel like it's a little too muted on no Complaints. So I'm probably going to reprint that with more vibrant red. Okay. We'll see.
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Speaker 1
I really I happen to like a deep red. Oh, I'm wearing that color. I like a deep red. It's my well it's my birthstone. Right. Garnet for January I like dark, dark reds.
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Speaker 2
I like dark reds. But this one, I feel like I mixed it, a little too dark. It almost looks brown to me, so we'll see.
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Speaker 1
I love it. For anyone listening or watching, please let us know what you've tried, what experiments you're working on, what artistic endeavors or other. If even if they're not artistic, just something new, something you're working out to try. We would love to know. Inspiration. Oh.
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Speaker 2
What inspired you this week, Monica?
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Speaker 3
Oh.
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Speaker 1
I got kind of deep down poetry this week. I kind of went there. It was just one of those weeks. I felt productive with work and with art and other things, but I just decided to really take some time and revisit a poet that I love. I brought the book with me.
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Speaker 2
Nice.
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Speaker 1
They have plenty of books, but this is their last one, unfortunately. Andrea Gibson, amazing poet, unfortunately died in July 2025. Yep, we lost an amazing poet. If you're familiar with Andrea Gibson, awesome. If you're not, check them out. This book, You better Be lightning. I think maybe two years ago we bought it. We got a signed copy. Very happy with that.
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Speaker 1
It it. This is this isn't a book. You just sit down and read cover to cover on like a casual day. You got to.
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Speaker 2
Absorb it as it comes.
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Speaker 1
Yeah. Absorb it. That's a good word. I just really felt in touch with some of these poems this week. That's awesome. Yeah, they they just make you feel. And the words are amazing, and they're not over your head too much. Andrew started it more of a slam poetry. If you're familiar with that type of poetry, it's really more powerful to hear, like the spoken word, spoken poetry.
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Speaker 1
So, if you're if you're game, if you're up for reading any poems, from slam poets, try reading them out loud. Yeah. Or try finding a recording of them reading their poetry because it the cadence and the pace are so different to hear that it's like energy coming into and not just reading words on a page, but hearing them.
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Speaker 1
Yeah. Of the I was really inspired this week by that. We had watched previously a documentary, Come See Me in the Good Light. So good. Credible, incredible documentary about Andrea Gibson. Unfortunately with their diagnosis and their eventual. Well look the documentary didn't have the death but. Right. Dealing with a cancer diagnosis that was so incredibly powerful and terminal cancer and their partner Megan allowed incredible access and cameras to come into their home and their life.
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Speaker 1
Very, very well done. So we highly recommend that documentary.
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Speaker 2
Yeah, it's a great, like celebration of life. And just a reminder that, you know, we all only have a certain amount of time and we don't know how much that is. So yeah, might as well make the most of it.
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Speaker 1
Yeah. And all the feelings. One thing Andrea says that we try to keep in mind sometimes it's harder than others, but anything you're feeling, especially when there's like grief or rage or any any feeling, call it love. It's just a good reminder. Like, okay, I'm a human. I have capacity for these emotions. I want to feel them all.
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Speaker 1
What if they truly are all a form of love, even the rage and the fear? Because that means you have compassion enough to love. And so you feel rage and grief and fear towards things. And that's helped me so much to try to remember or just rename all those emotions the source of it. Love.
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Speaker 2
Yeah.
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Speaker 1
It's kind of it's beautiful. So that, was on my mind this week quite a bit.
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Speaker 2
Nice.
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Speaker 1
Inspiration for you.
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Speaker 2
I mean, that honestly kind of feeds into what was inspiring for me. This week we watched a documentary about, the music festival from the 90s, Lilith Fair, and we both were aware of Lilith Fair as it was happening. It was a music festival that was all female artists. Sarah McLaughlin put it together. Tons of female artists from the 90s were there Paula Cole, Sheryl Crow, Joan Osborne, Kay's choice, like, pretty much every awesome artist that happened to be female.
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Speaker 1
Tracy Chapman.
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Speaker 2
Tracy Chapman, Erica Badu.
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Speaker 1
Yeah, God, there was. So even Patti Smith went to Sam Smith.
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Speaker 2
Yeah.
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Speaker 1
The venue, the lineup changed. It was 3 or 4 summers in a row.
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Speaker 2
I think they did like a four venue thing the first summer in 96. And then the rest of the years 97, eight and nine were all like, I can't believe how many tour dates they did with that festival, like 50 tour dates. Plus a year. That's insane. With a lot that big of a production. Anyway, watch the documentary.
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Speaker 2
It's available on Hulu. It was fantastic.
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Speaker 1
So it was inspiring.
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Speaker 2
Yeah. I mean, I wish I could have gone to a Lilith Fair, but I was like 12 when they started. But it was all the stuff I was listening to and still love. Like Sarah McLaughlin's album surfacing will always be one of my favorites. Sounds so.
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Speaker 1
Good. I was the exact right age. I was very aware of all of these artists. I was in college aged 95, 96, 97. Yeah. I mean, I'm surprised that I didn't go. Yeah, I did go to Lilith Fair when they tried to have like a reunion ten years later, like late.
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Speaker 2
Like 2010, 20, 2011, 20.
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Speaker 1
Okay. 2010. Which was awesome. Indigo girls, Cat power, Sara McLaughlin, Tegan and Sara. There was some great artists there. And it was an it was an incredible lineup. But it wasn't from the magic from the 90s of having that big, fair where they contributed money to local shelters. I think that we learned in the documentary over the three summers that like, gave like $10 million to women's shelters.
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Speaker 1
Something incredible. But what was inspiring about it, like.
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Speaker 2
Just like the camaraderie between women and, you know, the the record label industry really makes them feel like they need to compete against each other. And instead it was just this atmosphere of women being like, we don't need to compete. We're all, you know, kind of comrades and can help one another, one one another. I don't know, that's a word.
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Speaker 2
Now, so that was really inspiring. But also just like things that changed, like in the 90s, radio deejays were told not to play two women back to back. That's right.
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Speaker 1
We learned that in the documentary and that Lilith Fair changed that being like, yeah, people do want to hear a variety of genres and voices, and it's okay to play more than one woman on a radio station.
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Speaker 2
And they got so much shit for putting that festival together, because promoters and people were like, no one's going to come watch all these women. You can't have more than two women on a bill. People aren't going to buy tickets. It's men that buy tickets. So I'm really glad that they did that. And it was amazing. And, you know, so many great artists got to have a voice because of that festival.
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Speaker 2
And also just, I don't know, I miss the days when it wasn't all about the damn manosphere.
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Speaker 1
Like, yeah, I something you said, honey, when you said they really changed, trying not to be competitive, like pitting women against each other. I just want to say something about that in today's artistic climate. Candice and I love trying different art, and we're we're never, ever viewing it as competitive. And in fact, when other artists reach out to us, which has happened with stained glass, we love it.
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Speaker 2
We love it, love it.
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Speaker 1
I'll jump on a video, a couple of send a message with explicit directions of how we made something. You want a pattern? You want to try making this? Here's the pattern. You want tips on how to make this? Let's have a video call. Yeah, there's no competitive vibe in us. However, without getting into names, we had a, huge shock kind of early in our stained glass journey with another glass artist that approached us and said, you're invading my space and my ideas, and I feel competitive with you.
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Speaker 1
And we're like, what is.
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Speaker 2
Very out of left field? It was very it was so shocking.
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Speaker 1
And we assured this man that we I'm just pointing out the gender, because it was pitting women against women isn't always that way. This was a male artist that's also local and had a real problem with our success. We had a little magazine article we had won. I been granted some money for our art. It was.
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Speaker 2
Awesome.
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Speaker 1
And we collaborated and lifted other artists up all the time and would tag him on things if we were at similar festivals. We were so surprised to hear there was any competitiveness, which we just didn't feel. We have our own ideas. They're zany, they're wacky, we're doing our own stuff and we always will and we continue to. It didn't stop us, but it did make us like, take a moment of shock and realize, oh, we we need to make it very clear we are not competing.
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Speaker 1
We don't want artists to compete. We don't want we want to be part of a community. We want to hear your ideas, not to steal them. But hey, if you want to steal ours, have at it.
00:22:57:15 - 00:23:24:11
Speaker 2
Well, let's see can. It's just like art. Art should be collaborative, like you're part of a collective conscious with the human race in general. So why not lift each other up and help promote each other and just help each other with things like, I mean, you and I don't have a competitive streak as is, but, which is probably why we were so shocked by someone else's competitiveness.
00:23:24:11 - 00:23:51:07
Speaker 2
But like, if you there is no definite amount of pie, like if someone gets a slice of pie and you get a slice of pie, it's not like there's only so much pie left in the art world, like it's infinite. So don't compete with each other because you're not competing for something that's actually they're intangible. It's a made up thing in your head.
00:23:51:09 - 00:23:54:09
Speaker 1
Oh my God, I love that infinite pie.
00:23:54:09 - 00:23:56:13
Speaker 2
Yes, there's infinite art pie.
00:23:56:19 - 00:23:59:20
Speaker 1
That should be the name of everything we do from now on.
00:23:59:20 - 00:24:00:17
Speaker 2
Infinite pie?
00:24:00:22 - 00:24:13:12
Speaker 1
Yes. And not because you just love pie. Well, I love pie. I also love a lesbian, a euphemism, I mean, infinite pie. God. And I want to eat pie.
00:24:13:13 - 00:24:15:11
Speaker 2
It's also a math term. Pie.
00:24:15:14 - 00:24:19:12
Speaker 1
Oh, well, see, that's extra smart, smarty pants in the family over there.
00:24:19:18 - 00:24:24:00
Speaker 2
So not math, but infinite pie.
00:24:24:02 - 00:24:59:18
Speaker 1
What do you think? But to Candace's point, absolutely. There is no limit to what is can be discovered, can be experimented with, can be shared like collaborate, be supportive, help each other out. The little affair doc definitely like was inspiring for for a lot of reasons, but that included. And seriously, if any of you are interested and say yes to Nos trials and errors that Candace has already learned from lino cutting, or that we both learned from class, or that I'm just starting to learn from writing and submitted my submitting writing to journals.
00:24:59:20 - 00:25:22:11
Speaker 1
How it feels to be rejected. It's part of the process. Like let us know. We'll share with you anything we have. So collaborate be kind to each other. There's the inspirational message of the week and infinite Sky high. That's awesome. So this is episode nine. We've talked about inspiration. We've talked about the art projects for working on.
00:25:22:11 - 00:25:31:05
Speaker 1
And we'd love to hear from you if you're listening or watching, chime in, right? Comment, follow and thumbs up, but also send a comment.
00:25:31:08 - 00:25:32:13
Speaker 2
To all that stuff.
00:25:32:16 - 00:25:42:28
Speaker 1
Yeah, we are as we are, a podcast on YouTube, on Instagram. And, we're here. We're doing it. This is so fun. We're having fun. Like, seriously having fun.
00:25:42:28 - 00:25:53:14
Speaker 2
We're having fun. So we hope you're having fun. Or if we're fine, if we're just in our own world talking to ourselves, you know we love it. If people chime in, they are.
00:25:53:14 - 00:26:06:11
Speaker 1
And we appreciated the comments that have come in, what? People are inspired by it. We really, really do appreciate it. Yeah. So this was episode nine. Wrap it up and we will see you next week.
00:26:06:14 - 00:26:08:12
Speaker 2
See you in the double digits.
00:26:08:15 - 00:26:10:24
Speaker 1
We'll see you next time. Thanks for coming.
00:26:10:24 - 00:26:12:04
Speaker 2
Bye bye.