Tappa's Green Room Podcast

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In Episode 39 of The Green Room, Tappa is joined by Dr. Christina Pomar alongside legendary surfer and 1965 World Champion Felipe Pomar to dive deeper into the mission behind their movement “Surf Till 100.”

Christina, a doctor of natural medicine, PhD in holistic nutrition, advanced yoga teacher, and longevity researcher, shares the science and philosophy behind extending not just lifespan — but healthspan. The conversation explores everything from stem cells and arterial cleansing to the powerful role belief, lifestyle, and mindset play in how long and how well we live.

Christina explains how stem cells work in the body, how plaque forms in arteries, and the natural approaches she believes can support regeneration and long-term health. The discussion also touches on her own research into biological aging, the role of epigenetics, and the concept that belief and environment may influence our biology more than genetics alone.

Felipe shares how discipline, daily routines, and purpose continue to fuel his surfing well into his 80s, while Christina reveals how certain health protocols helped support his vitality and performance in the water.

Together, they break down the foundations of their Surf Till 100 philosophy — a blend of mindset, discipline, lifestyle habits, and natural health strategies aimed at keeping surfers active and thriving for decades.

If you’ve ever wondered how to keep paddling out well into your later years, this episode is packed with ideas, inspiration, and a fresh perspective on longevity.

What is Tappa's Green Room Podcast?

Your backstage pass to the world of surfing, hosted by MC and commentator Terry “Tappa” Teece. From pro surfers and legends of the sport to shapers, innovators and anyone with an epic story and a love for the ocean—The Green Room dives deep. Expect tales of epic wins, brutal wipeouts, and behind-the-scenes moments from life in and out of the water. Whether you’re chasing waves or just some inspiration, this podcast will leave you stoked to paddle out.

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Tappa
Welcome to the Green Room. Your backstage pass to the world of surfing. I'm your host, surf emcee and commentator, Terry Tapper diving into epic winds, crashing fouls and wild stories with surfing's biggest names, as well as the legends working behind the scenes to keep that state alive. A big shout out to our sponsor for this episode. The official break out with their new Jersey lager.

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Tappa
So wax up, paddle out and join us in the green room with a surf chat. Never goes flat. Goodbye, folks, and welcome to the Green Room. And today, well, we've already spoken to our Philippe Poma, of course, 82 six 20ft waves. But as well, with Philippe, now we've got his lovely wife, Christina, the guy and I, Poma. And of course, between them, their mission is for everybody to surf to 100.

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Tappa
It's all about. Well, Christina, she is a doctor in natural medicine, a PhD in holistic nutrition, advanced yoga teacher, and longa tivity. I got it wrong again. Longevity. I'll get it right. Researcher. She's been with Philippe since 2017. And together, they share a mission around sustainable health. Extending not just lifespan, but healthspan. And, of course, sustainable health.

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Tappa
That's what it's all about. Today we're diving into stem cell therapy, arterial cleansing, and whether surfing 200 could actually be possible. Welcome, Christina and Philippe.

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Felipe
Aloha.

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Tappa
Right now, you've been married to Philippe since 2017. On a married 22. You've known Philippe since 2017. You're a doctor in holistic medicine, a PhD in holistic nutrition. Yoga teacher. But what is your origin story like? How did you start in natural medicine?

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Christina
Actually, probably started in my teenage years when my mother was suffering from asthma. She back in those days, natural medicine was like voodoo, voodoo magic. But she was, wise enough to know that she needed something else. And she went to a natural health practitioner who, through biofeedback, was able to determine what what foods and what elements she was sensitive to.

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Christina
And allergic to and, guide her through diet and supplementation to, almost completely reverse her asthma symptoms, which were going to, you know, were on the way to killing her very shortly, I would imagine, because nothing else was working. And now she's still alive and she has very minimal asthma. And I think that's what really inspired me.

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Tappa
And so, so from there, you were inspired. Well, how did you go about educating yourself in this natural medicine and holistic medicine?

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Christina
That's a very good question, because back in the day, in those early 90s, late 80s and early 90s, when I was very young, I had to go looking for the information. It wasn't bombarding us, through websites and social media. I really had to go hunting for it. And I think that made my quest all that much more sincere and deep because, I really I was really on a quest and it was really, from the heart to.

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Tappa
Its, you really wanted. And that's, you had to search it yourself and research. So you basically started on almost on the ground floor of holistic medicine. Nearly.

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Christina
Yeah. Because even natural medicine in those days was not, particularly if people were practicing it, they it felt like there was a resistance, to, from, from most from the masses because the conventional medicine just has such a hold on us, you know? But now, fortunately, we're we're getting more and more attuned to natural ways.

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Christina
That can, you know, sustainably heal us, from the from the root, from from the causal level. And, yeah, you know, in a complete way.

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Tappa
So now can you define what you mean by, longevity.

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Christina
Longevity.

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Tappa
Longevity here?

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Christina
Well, longevity is our lifespan. How long we live, how how well we live. So both Philip and I agree that it's not just the number of years because, as we all know, probably conventional health is able to keep us living longer, but not necessarily with better quality of life. So for practicing the right, therapies and practices, we can not only add years to our life, but we can add quality to those years.

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Tappa
Well, yeah, because that's what I've been on a bit of a health mission myself. And, and in my head, now that I'm sort of on that mission, I find that it is all about quality of life. As I get older, I don't want to be like with a walker or not being able to surf. I want to surf as long as I can.

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Tappa
And that that must be, that's part of that. So, it's got to be about a PhD experiment. You experimented with yourself on what you call quantum reverse aging.

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Christina
Tell us a bit about that. Still a bit of, open secret, that, the book should be coming out soon. I, I started the experiment in 2008, and, it it was long before I gained the PhD or that I knew that it would become had the potential of becoming a PhD project, but I applied certain quantum principles in, a living experiment.

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Christina
And I did it three times. And the third time was in 2017, when I was able to quantify or prove, 26 year, reduction in my biological age. So I came back looking quite different, not through surgery. It was only 21 days, but the principles I applied were basically, the observer effect and entanglement. So my belief, coupled with the belief of others regarding my age, actually was more powerful than, a multitude of physiological interventions that I had been practicing as a contrast phase.

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Christina
So I was doing, you know, to to contrast this living quantum phase. I had, I had done maybe a three month on average, period where I was applying all the physiological techniques from yoga to supplementation to heat therapy to, you know, everything that I could, could do to, you know, scientific that has been that had been scientifically proven to reduce age.

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Christina
I was doing and even with the intense three month period that I had sustained doing it as much as I could and as diligently as I could, it could not compare to the 21 days when it was a simple belief, coupled with other people's belief about my chronological age. So that's how powerful the mind can be. And so, yes, we can practice all of the, the physiological techniques that we can.

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Christina
All right, that, you know, they, they do work. But what's most important and part of our, journey as well, and in helping to guide people is, is in the belief factor. And that also ties in to the epigenetics, which is our belief and our environment actually have more, of a control scientifically proven than our genetics. They can override and supersede our genetics, our belief and our lifestyle.

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Tappa
Well, that's funny. I still think of myself as one of the oldest grommets around because I, you know, it's funny, it my I still don't feel like, you know, at my age, some people say my ex-wife used to say I was a fifth child. But anyway. But, But. Yeah, I think that's a big part of it, too.

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Tappa
Yeah. Like you actually, you feel young and and and a lot of it comes from within you. It's like you can build your own barriers. Oh, I'm too old. I can't go for a walk. I'm too old, I can't run. Is that what you mean sort of thing?

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Christina
Exactly. We tell each other all of these things, and we, you know, we're conditioned every day to look at our passport or our driver's license, so. So it reminds us of what our chronological age is. And that doesn't help. But then on top of that, if we're telling ourselves that we're not, we're too old or we're too weak or we can't do it anymore, of course, like we're giving ourselves, a battle that we can't fight anymore.

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Christina
So we, you know, we're going to have to die one day.

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Tappa
Like what I call a self self, sabotaging. Yeah, that's. Yeah. Basically, that's what you're doing. It's self or self-fulfilling prophecy. Your prophesies that. Oh, I'm too old. I'm not going to be able to do that anymore. So then you start happening.

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Christina
That's right. Exactly.

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Tappa
Yeah. Oh that's unreal. Now part of the stuff you do is stem cells. Yeah. A course, a stem cell therapy. Everyone else who wants that can, can you let us know a bit about that and what it actually means?

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Christina
Well, during the conference, we just, participated in I tied it into sustainability and as I concluded at the end, sustainable practice of health. In other words, using methods that are not only low cost but simple and effective, that don't create a negative dependance or side effects is the way. And usually there's a way out there.

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Christina
But we are so marketed, we're so, the messages that we're bombarded with are that we have to go with the most sophisticated, most flashy option. So stem cell therapy is one of those things, in my opinion, where, yes, it it does. Good. No. No doubt. Injections. Can help with chronic conditions like arthritis and, joint problems and all the rest.

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Christina
However, it's not sustainable because they're in the tens of thousands of dollars for one injection. And there are ways that we can do it, sustainably with supplementation that has been around now for almost 20 years. And I have to mention at this point, there is a neuroscientists from Canada, I'm proud to say Christian Drapeau, that formulated the first, the first supplementation at the time.

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Christina
And I was lucky enough to be there on the ground level to to start taking them. And stem cells are very important because there at the foundation, it's been proven to be, stem cells have been proven to be at the foundation of, regeneration and youth of the body since 2002.

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Felipe
But perhaps you should give a description of what stem cells.

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Christina
Do, because many people don't know what stem cells are. Unfortunately, what they are basically are master cells in the body, that are released, let's say, in different ways. But the bone marrow in, in, in large part and when they leave the bone marrow, they replicate. So we never deplete our original quantity. And then what's important is that they go to wherever the body needs in priority.

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Christina
So in our innate intelligence, the body knows exactly where to send them. First. Say, for example, the liver needs at first you think your skin needs to grow more, but your liver is in dire need, so it sends it there first. And it can only they can only replicate into healthy cells. So by the time that we reach the age of 65, we release only 10% of the original amount that we would release in our peak years, which means that we're only regenerating about 10%.

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Christina
The amount that we were in our 20s, which is why we start breaking down and we start, you know, becoming defenseless in face of, chronic illnesses. That then ultimately usually cause us to perish.

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Tappa
Yeah. Well, well that's it. Stem cells were also talking. Went on the way here on the drive you had. I was saying about, you know, like, I've had some health conditions, you know, like high cholesterol and all that. And I'm not one for pills and, you know, like the pharmaceuticals and, and you said this thing that you've got natural arterial cleansing, but obviously you we were talking a bit about the statins and all that sort of thing, because my doctor one day to me and I had high blood pressure and I ended up I didn't.

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Tappa
But the statins, a lot of stuff that I know there's probably some of our, our audience there that are on statins as well. Can you tell us a bit about the natural arterial cleansing and the that sort of thing?

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Christina
I'll try not to.

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Tappa
Do too much.

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Christina
Take it out, touch the statins too much. But implied would be, you know, people can make their own deductions. So if you want I can describe a little bit about this. The theory I hold, which has been proven to be quite correct in how the body creates plaque and the role that cholesterol has, and how naturally we can actually eliminate plaque and repair our arteries at the same time.

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Tappa
That'd be great.

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Christina
Okay, so there's actually three ways, but I'll describe, three ways that do basically the same thing in the end that I'll describe afterwards. But in terms of how plaque starts in the body, although I'm, you know, I'm not a doctor, but, it's a pretty good description according to this theory. So according to Doctor Roland, which is a Canadian, I'm proud to say, because I'm a Canadian.

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Tappa
Great people. Canadians.

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Christina
Oh thank you. We're very like cousins to the Australians, right?

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Tappa
Yes. That's it.

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Christina
So his theory and which is pretty well proven, it can be proven as well, is that free radicals, which are basically foreign bodies to the, to the, in the body, create the damage in the arteries. So free radicals are precipitated by all manner of toxins and pollutants and, and just, you know, stress for example, sugar. Sugar also plays a great part in damaging the arteries because it, weakens the inside part of the artery as well as it creating a stickiness through glycation.

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Christina
Anyway, so what happens is this, this damage occurs because of the free radicals creating, ruptures and tears. And if our immune system isn't strong enough, which it, you know, it has a lot to fight against these days because never before maybe not here on the Gold Coast, because you guys are so lucky. But normally, you know, in big cities especially, we're bombarded through, pollution, through toxins in the food, through, you know, everything we're surrounded with seems to have some sort of toxin, you know.

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Tappa
Preservatives and all that sort of thing in the food. That's the that's the thing that really gets me.

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Christina
Yes. And so if the body isn't strong enough, which many times it isn't to combat and to neutralize this process, the damage grows. And so the body then sends this. It's kind of like a mesh called fibrin to cover the, to put like a Band-Aid over the, the tears. And but this fibrin accumulates, things in the bloodstream that would normally be, you know, cleansed out, but on purpose, really to create sort of a patch.

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Christina
And so then what happens with cholesterol is and, and the LDL is what is called the bad cholesterol. But it's been proven to be the repair of cholesterol. And so not by surprise that you find cholesterol as a last ditch effort. It's like the ambulance driver that that that comes in is is it is accused of causing the accident.

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Christina
Well, cholesterol comes in and it starts to create a slippery surface so that the blood has a chance to flow through the artery instead of being, you know, obstructed by this plant. So the cholesterol is actually the good guy. And so it's found in the arteries because it's trying to repair and because it's a waxy substance. And by the way, cholesterol is a very, very important substance in the body.

00;17;23;25 - 00;17;46;12
Christina
It's a hormone that's involved in catalyzing vitamin D, adrenal hormones, sexual hormones. So when we and we can only produce so much, we we need it. So much that we need about 20% of it from our food. We can only produce about 80% of what we need. So if we curtail it, we're actually doing much harm to the body.

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Christina
We're not fixing the cause at all. And, I've seen it happen. My dad, in 2011, they were about to take his leg off. Just wait and see. Nothing could be done. All of his arteries, all of his arterials were completely blocked. Almost. And the only thing that was saving him was he was active every day. And within six weeks of me get.

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Christina
And I was ready because I had just finished my course, and studied all of these things, maybe a couple of years prior. And I was able to not only save his leg, but he went back to work within six weeks.

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Tappa
Wow. Yeah, what an amazing thing.

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Christina
That was all because of a natural arterial cleanser. And there's three ways. There's three elements that we know of that can actually, cleanse are our arteries naturally.

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Tappa
And, can can you let us know kind of what they are? Yeah.

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Christina
And I have I have to say that I probably done the most research in delineating them, because I've never seen any research talking about the three ways that, you know, there maybe there's others, but the first one is, was one developed by this doctor Roland. Neuro. Sorry, doctor. In, in in Canada. And his theory, which he's proven scientifically, is that there's this enzyme called lipoprotein lips, and it's dubbed, like a nickname, the arterial scrubber.

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Christina
So we do produce this. It's an enzyme. We do produce this in the body naturally, but at maintenance levels, because our bodies aren't meant to deal with all of the, the toxins and all of the free radicals and all of the plaque that we are now accumulating as a result. But by taking a formula that has the right combinations of the catalyst to this enzyme, to to create it, to catalyze it in greater amounts so that we can actually go and take up, take care of the backlog.

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Christina
That yeah, that formula is actually able to go in and do that. There's another there's another I don't know if you want me to go. Yeah.

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Tappa
No no no. Yes, please. Yes. Please stay.

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Christina
The next.

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Felipe
Session.

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Christina
The next one is collision therapy is. So EDTA is a it's called a chelating agent. It's not something that naturally is produced in the body, but it has been used even in conventional medicine, proving that, it is a way to clear plaque. So it's not just, you know, a natural alternative, but if you do it the conventional way through chelating therapy, going to, I believe, a clinic or a hospital, not only is it very costly, but they inject this EDTA into you in large quantities.

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Christina
And what EDTA does. Oh, I forgot to mention that what binds the plaque is calcium. That's the binder. So what keeps it all glued together is calcium. So now talking about EDTA in the conventional sense, which is much better than the alternatives like bypass or even, you know, stents etc., is that conventional medicine years ago came up with this therapy to, you know, to inject the body with EDTA, which pulls minerals and toxins.

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Christina
So but the problem is with that is that it's not only pulling because it's used for other reasons too, but it pulls dangerous, toxic metals, but it also pulls minerals that.

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Tappa
You need so that. Yeah. Yes. Yeah.

00;21;41;19 - 00;22;12;00
Christina
So we have calcium in the middle of that, but you don't just get the calcium drawn out, you get the good and and not just the bad but all of the good. So it's really depleting for the system. But there's a supplement that you can take that actually. And don't forget, if you rip off the Band-Aid, you have the wound so the body won't even relinquish all of the plaque until the arteries are repaired underneath.

00;22;12;02 - 00;22;41;10
Christina
So the therapy is sort of over the top, because even if the body could relinquish all of that plaque or dissolve it, all, it won't want to, because underneath is the is that is the, the way the wound. Yeah. So EDTA can be taken in an oral collation. And when you take a good, good form of that, then it not only dissolves the plaque by pulling the calcium, but it also repairs.

00;22;41;10 - 00;22;56;04
Christina
It has other, supplements in the formula that will then repair the underlying damage. So that's that's EDTA for you or chelation conventional or oral.

00;22;56;10 - 00;22;57;17
Tappa
And what's the third one?

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Christina
This the third one is nitric oxide, which is a simple, gaseous molecule. Signaling molecule that does all sorts of great things. It it not only removes plaque or prevents plaque and prevents, blood clotting, but it lowers blood pressure. It helps, increase blood flow. And so it's all round really great. Element to, to introduce into our body or to, to help catalyze in the body.

00;23;34;01 - 00;23;47;16
Christina
So there are formulations that can do this. So there's a whole variety of ways that we can avoid, you know, because bypass surgery and even angioplasty now it's usually combined with stents.

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Tappa
Yeah.

00;23;48;01 - 00;24;20;01
Christina
Which, you know, the heart the bypass surgery is very invasive. You can never, never usually replicate, you know, if it if it's not done well or if it fails, you know, there's other serious complications. But say you're doing just angioplasty and stents. Well is good is that therapy can be and it has come a long way. You're only dealing with one spot in the arterial system.

00;24;20;01 - 00;24;37;00
Christina
And as my dad's case and other cases have taught me, when you have one artery, that's blocked, it's usually never. It's like one having one mouse. You you you don't always. You'll always have more than one mouse in the house. If you see one, there's a whole host of others in the background somewhere.

00;24;37;02 - 00;24;38;10
Tappa
And you're only dealing with one.

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Christina
Yeah. Yeah, exactly. And then the. So getting back to the bypass, you're, you're really, you know, it's really invasive because you have to go in usually to the femoral artery. And the femoral artery is the largest artery in the body. And you have to graft a piece, bring it up to the heart. And again like you say, you're only dealing with one part of the arterial system.

00;25;04;16 - 00;25;11;01
Christina
And then what do you do with the rest of it? Because today it's this area, tomorrow it's the next area.

00;25;11;01 - 00;25;31;18
Tappa
So yeah. Well, so let's get on to about the, surf to 100. Damn. Philippe's turning point. Let's, like now, Philippe, at some stage, he said he started to slow down. What did physically, what did changes did you notice and what shifted? Using the stem cell protocols?

00;25;31;20 - 00;25;57;21
Christina
Well, I've gotten his permission to tell this story. Okay. It's a nice it's a it's a nice story in the end. So in 2017 when we first met, we met on Oahu, I was graduating with my PhD. Or I was in the process of finishing it, and he met me. He had never we never met before, but we chatted a couple of times.

00;25;57;21 - 00;26;15;17
Christina
We were introduced, unbeknownst to me, unsolicited by me, by a common friend. And, so we finally met and he lost his keys before. Yes, you can tell me first date.

00;26;15;19 - 00;26;18;25
Tappa
None of your car keys.

00;26;18;27 - 00;26;20;12
Christina
In a supermarket.

00;26;20;15 - 00;26;22;25
Felipe
Right? That's okay. That's the story.

00;26;22;28 - 00;26;50;09
Christina
Okay. But then there's another part to this story. But I also got permission for to tell. So that kind of concern me. And, you know, I saw that there is a bit of maybe slight confusion or a slight hesitancy and processing certain things. And I thought, but, you know, there was something about him and it was this, you know, this connection that really appealed to me.

00;26;50;11 - 00;27;11;04
Christina
And, a couple months later, when I was in Hawaii, when I visited him for the first time, after actually, we had had one time in Peru before that, and I was starting to notice things in the best way I can describe it is that there were blanks. And yes, with age, that naturally happens. But it was more serious.

00;27;11;04 - 00;27;28;20
Christina
And I see him manifesting now, and, you know, one day I broke down and I said, you know what? You know, I'm very concerned about you. And he he reassured me. He said, you know what? You don't have to stay with me. You don't have to be with me. And I said, no, I love you. I want to be with you.

00;27;28;22 - 00;27;51;07
Christina
And then I thought, I'm so silly. I've been taking these stem cell enhancers for at that point, it was like 12 years already. And I know that they had an effect on me, even though when I first started I was fairly young, but I was in my 30s, mid 30s, and so I said to myself, this is what I'm going to give you for Christmas.

00;27;51;07 - 00;28;12;14
Christina
And he started taking them. And although it was a subtle change, I noticed from the brief time that I had known him before he had shifted somehow he it was like he got a second wind or a fourth wind or something. And so that that was really exciting for me to see.

00;28;12;16 - 00;28;42;27
Felipe
And if I may say something, after I met Christine, I was inspired. And several of the things that she recommended weren't to the point that I had e they tested me for, like they do a test on the carotid artery. And when I went to get my result, three doctors ran out and they said, what did you do?

00;28;42;27 - 00;29;10;14
Felipe
What did you do? And you know, I didn't know what they were talking about. And they said, you have no black. And that is very unusual for a person your age. So what she had told me about my dad died of arteriosclerosis in his late 60s. So for me to have no plaque is excellent. And it's thanks to the things that she recommended.

00;29;10;21 - 00;29;11;04
Felipe
Thank you.

00;29;11;04 - 00;29;18;00
Tappa
That's unreal. Now, how much of Philip Philippe's continued performance is science? How much is discipline and how much to share?

00;29;18;00 - 00;29;49;12
Christina
Well, well, like I said, in preparing for this, for this podcast, I don't pretend to say that what I've introduced or what I've, you know, what's been confirmed because he had some knowledge of these things, especially the arterial cleansing before, I simply introduced the products. But I've never met a more disciplined person. But. And so that he he he never snacks.

00;29;49;12 - 00;30;08;25
Christina
He's always eating. Exactly what's what's right. You know, that's the best way of putting it. He has his regime that he follows, every morning without fail. He he he's diligent about his exercise. He he can outrun me.

00;30;08;27 - 00;30;10;28
Felipe
Surfing. Do I surf regularly?

00;30;11;05 - 00;30;14;05
Christina
Yes. You do.

00;30;14;08 - 00;30;23;13
Tappa
Actually, there's something. Cristina. How do you feel when he's out there in 20ft plus waves? How do you watch?

00;30;23;15 - 00;30;39;07
Christina
I try and forget about it. And he warned me very early on that I can't get in the middle of his. Well, not that I would. I would never get, you know, because it's his passion. It's me is. But yeah, I try and forget about it and just pray, you know?

00;30;39;09 - 00;30;45;09
Felipe
Yeah. I told her about all the divorces that are caused by windsurf.

00;30;45;12 - 00;30;48;17
Tappa
I've got a friend of mine, his wife says I'm a surfing. We die.

00;30;48;21 - 00;30;49;22
Christina
Yes.

00;30;49;25 - 00;31;08;23
Tappa
Yes, sometimes you can get like that, but that's, Yeah, a lot. It's so. So as far as it all goes, if you want to surf to 100. Besides, you know, like we're saying, these guys, it's going to be a lot about you're going to have to have discipline. You have to have the will to do it. And also what what you say with the arterial cleansing.

00;31;08;23 - 00;31;10;13
Tappa
And that can help as well.

00;31;10;15 - 00;31;32;10
Christina
Yeah. And the way I look at it is that just like in my project where I it's similar principle where he he is, he is living the best lifestyle he could. He can. But even with all of that, at a certain point, like I noticed, there were there was a bit of, a slowing down, a breakdown in, in, in some things.

00;31;32;10 - 00;31;59;19
Christina
So you have to have and we do have the means, the natural means, the effective means to supplement the good habits that we have. And they don't have to be costly. They don't have to be artificial. They don't have to be, they don't have to be complicated. There are there are things out there that can really boost our health, our longevity.

00;31;59;22 - 00;32;06;08
Christina
But we we do have to have a certain foundation of proper habits and lifestyle that he's the perfect example.

00;32;06;15 - 00;32;32;15
Felipe
Like has said, purpose. And, discipline practicing are very important if you want to live, if you want to serve for a long time, you need to have the belief that you can do it, and you need to develop a plan that will help you get a lot further than if you just hope for the best.

00;32;32;17 - 00;32;44;05
Tappa
Yes, well, a plan to be healthy is better than, just hoping that you're going to be healthy. I think, you know, and and like, Philippe's a perfect example with his discipline. Yeah, I guess a big part of it as well. You do a bit of yoga.

00;32;44;05 - 00;32;53;02
Christina
Yeah. And he actually adapts his, he, he, he has a routine that's very has adapted a lot of yoga into it.

00;32;53;06 - 00;33;02;28
Felipe
My shoulder will not allow certain things. So I change the yoga to something that I can do.

00;33;03;00 - 00;33;14;12
Tappa
Well that's great. And and so how if people want to, like a surf to 100 program, how can I access that with with these guys there? Or if someone wants to get in contact with you here.

00;33;14;14 - 00;33;18;14
Felipe
It's the surf to 100 website would be a good way.

00;33;18;16 - 00;33;34;24
Christina
We're we're developing it's we're in a new phase. Yeah. But I can provide some, some, some sources for the products that I've mentioned. But also we'll be developing some programs. So to keep an eye on what's next.

00;33;34;24 - 00;33;53;29
Tappa
And we will have some at the, at the, on the podcast and on the Vodcast. We will have some nights there with the links to all of that stuff. So that'll be really interesting. Yeah. And you know what it's like, I'm a firm believer that, you know, now as particularly now since I've found a bit more fitness that he lost a lot better.

00;33;53;29 - 00;34;00;29
Tappa
When you're older, when you're fit and you're healthy and you look after yourself. And this man would now, I suppose, more than anyone.

00;34;01;02 - 00;34;07;04
Felipe
Yeah. It's the best thing that you can invest into is your health. No doubt about it.

00;34;07;06 - 00;34;31;15
Tappa
Yeah. You can't purposely buy it, but you can do your best to do it. I think. So, well, guys, thank you so much, Christina and Philippe, for coming on the green room. And I'm sure a lot of our listeners and viewers there, I got to love hearing about this, and I'm sure I can check it out. And, you know, I want I want to be healthy, you know, and I think it's it's the best, best thing ever.

00;34;31;15 - 00;34;32;16
Tappa
Thank you so much.

00;34;32;19 - 00;34;35;00
Felipe
Why not serve still 100.

00;34;35;02 - 00;34;54;26
Tappa
That's it. Well, why not, you know. Well, I've got some friends of mine, you know. Steve. Steve. It's big deal. He's 73 on A58 and he says, great. My other mate Mal Chalmers, who's 76, he says with one hand he's added big wise. And then Philippe, you know, you know, you're adding 20ft wise at 80 years of age.

00;34;54;26 - 00;35;09;03
Tappa
It's honestly, I said this to Malcolm as I said, I said, when I grow up, I want to be like you. I when I grow up, I haven't grown up yet. And I think if you grow up, well, yeah, it's too late. You can't grow up. You got to stay young.

00;35;09;06 - 00;35;12;02
Christina
He always says. He always tells me he's a teenager.

00;35;12;05 - 00;35;19;01
Tappa
Well, I still feel kind of a bit like that. Thank you so much, guys. Thanks for being on the green Room. Thank you very much. Yes.

00;35;19;01 - 00;35;19;25
Felipe
Mahalo.

00;35;19;25 - 00;35;20;21
Christina
Mahalo.

00;35;20;24 - 00;35;37;23
Tappa
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00;35;37;23 - 00;35;56;10
Tappa
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00;35;56;14 - 00;35;58;15
Tappa
Until then, catch you in the waves.