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Spiritually Savvy is the podcast where personal growth meets spiritual expansion — and curiosity leads the way.
Hosted by Marisa Rylan, a former six-figure recruiter turned spiritual life coach, speaker, and author, this show is for high-achieving, soul-led women who are done with surface-level success and ready to manifest a life that actually feels good.
After walking away from burnout, divorce, and a hustle-fueled life, Marisa built a business — and a life — rooted in alignment, intuition, and deep inner work. Now, she’s sharing the conversations, tools, and spiritual principles that transformed her journey and continue to guide her evolution.
Every other week, you'll hear thought-provoking solo episodes, raw and real interviews with spiritual thought leaders, and behind-the-scenes insights from the masterminds, mentors, and magical moments that shape her path.
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Sometimes it's us. Sometimes even though the soul meant to exit planet earth in a certain manner in a certain time, people drink and drive and they die because it's a risky planet. This is a material world. This is a really harsh dimension. So although most time we go when we meant to die, we have to be careful.
Miki:If we're stupid, we're gonna die.
Marisa:Welcome to Spiritually Savvy, the podcast that brings spiritual wisdom into everyday life. I'm your host, Marissa Ryland. I'm a former corporate recruiter turned spiritual life coach and manifestation mentor and I help spiritually curious women deepen their connection to themselves, raise their vibration, and learn how to manifest with ease. Together in this podcast, we'll explore all your favorite spiritual concepts and break down the buzzwords, turning them into simple, meaningful practices to help you grow, heal, and manifest the life you truly desire. In each episode I'll be joined by different thought leaders, teachers, and experts from all across the spiritual landscape to help you dive even deeper.
Marisa:If you're ready to expand your spiritual practice and live with more intentionality, you're in the right place. Now let's dive into all the woo. Mickey, I am so excited to have you here. When I first started thinking of creating a podcast that had anything and everything to do with spirituality, I thought immediately of you. I can't imagine anyone else that I would wanna do this with.
Marisa:Thank you so much for being here, and welcome.
Miki:Oh, thank you, Marissa. Thank you for having me. It is wonderful and Thank you so much. Awesome.
Marisa:So you have been a incredibly influential person in my spiritual journey, if not the most influential person in my spiritual journey, in my awakening, and such a profound teacher. I've learned not only so much about myself and my own path, but also just so many foundational spiritual concepts that have really helped me to go forward in life in a different way. And when I started thinking about and planning for this conversation and what I wanted to focus on, I honestly had such a hard time choosing just a few things to discuss because you there's so much that you have to share. I wanna get into a couple of concepts in the realm of spirituality that I think would be really helpful for the listener to to continue their own journey. But before we do that, I would just love for you to share your story.
Marisa:I actually have never heard you speak it. I've only read it in your books, which I'm obsessed with. But your journey into mediumship from just this kind of everyday normal, if you will, type of existence to what you're doing now, which is so unique. Tell us a little bit about that that journey for you and what that looked like.
Miki:Yes. Of course. So I'm glad you're asking that, Marisa, because really, usually I do that little few sentences at the end, but really my path to spirituality and to the work I do today mean that everyone can do that, And that is my main message, because we all born mediums, we all have the ability to do that. Of course, it's required air honey, right? Of course, it's weak.
Miki:Sorry, my cat is ready to. Yeah, so that's really why it's very important to me in any event, in any teaching to bring that up, that the conclusion of what I would share, how I got to it, is to show that everyone can do it. So I was born and raised in Israel in quite a conservative Jewish home. My parents still elderly. My father is 94.
Miki:My mother is 84. And they are in Israel. I have brother and sister and nieces and nephews, so everyone is there. So I grew up with the Jewish traditions quite strictly, might say. As far from spirituality as one can be, Marisa.
Miki:Did not know about the world spirituality in English, in Hebrew. Just didn't. So really was very focused on religion, which is of course completely different. Religion with every religious that has its own rules and regulations. At Judaism, I frankly grew up thinking God is little bit more of a male figure, which I was terrified of, rabbis means terrified of, because there's a lot of rules that you have to follow.
Miki:And really, if you don't follow, there is some sort of a punishment. So I grew up with that and needed to follow the religion, so completely again different than spirituality. At the age of 18, I joined the Israeli army. We all do in Israel, men, women, we have Usually women serve two years, men serve three years, but I signed because I became a sergeant. I was a shooting instructor, so I served Israeli army five years.
Miki:Then I just moved to The US, obviously looking back now, it just was my sole journey. So when I came here, Marissa, I was obviously exposed to different religions. I was because Israeli, Ismaili, Judaism. I was exposed to other religions, which a little bit confused me as to why other religions see God different, have different rules. Essentially, religion start to not make sense to me because you open to different things, because I realize that why is Judaism that and Christianity or Catholic would be something like that.
Miki:So it's pushed me a little bit more the direction of God is energy, the direction of spirituality, more specifically meditation where I quiet the mind or walk on quieting the mind. I became a Reiki master. I did energy healing to animals, which whom I loved so much, and then to people. Readings were not included at that time. I just gathered a lot of spiritual knowledge.
Miki:The more I looked into spirituality, the more it set right for me, the more religion was wrong for me, which inspired to do even more. Back then I was owning my own glass company in Long Beach, California for many years, so I was quite the business world. I'm the business woman. But then as I got into more and more spirituality, the business didn't make sense to me anymore. I almost felt foreign.
Miki:Of course, what the universe does, the universe also help push us out. Okay, that's exhaustion. A lot of people like, oh, sure, I like that concept. It is because I was frankly comfortable. I didn't know anything else in business and it was successful.
Miki:So I'm like, why would I leave? But I felt foreign in the business world. Felt and of course the universe do its thing where the business eventually close its doors. We did not sign any more contract. Of course, looking back now that it was very much designed the beginning for me moving into spirituality.
Miki:Again, there was nothing to do with reading back then, but as I got into energy healing, which you focus as it is as to the chi transfer to other living being, human or animals, it's when the channeling started. So when the channeling start, like I put in my first book, Soul Secret, I honestly thought I'm schizophrenic because it says, hearing, yeah, it's weird, it's bizarre because I came from a different background, but you do, you start hearing inspiration and ideas out of nowhere. Hence, now we call it channeling, where you don't think about something and all of a sudden it's coming up. So as the time continued to unfold, I realized that those are indeed spirits. Of course, I continue to study and I got into automatic writing.
Miki:Automatic writing, which is an ancient, ancient, super effective technique that you simply document what you get. So all that took a long time because spirituality, whether it is in external, meaning helping others take time, everything take time, success do not go from one step to a step hundred. So it took a long time by the time I left the business and got into that. As I got better in meditation, hence I was able to quiet the mind hearing spirits. That's when I start lightly to offer it to people.
Miki:Of course, the beginning, the readings were not as complex as now because spirit opened ever so gently the door as they see when we are ready. So again, like I mentioned in the beginning, I didn't come from spiritual background. I knew nothing about spirituality. Once you taste the knowledge of spirituality, sit with your soul in the body, low in the soul. That's why when I do event, Marissa, I tell people the information should sit with you.
Miki:There is nothing new I'm telling you that I merely awakening your memory. And in this case, yours, you have the memory and the listeners. So that's why everyone can do it. That's why in my bio, that's why in my event, that's why in my YouTube, I always said, if I do it, so do you, because I was about 32 entering into 33 where the spiritual path, and, of course, now I'm 61 years old, so all those years. But, yeah, it does require great amount of med dedication.
Miki:You have to watch your lifestyle. I cannot have drama all day. I cannot smoke pot. I cannot do things that will close-up my channel because I simply gonna get to a reading and not hear anything. So there are rules, or rather I use the phrase, we have to be qualified for it.
Miki:We have to work on our spirituality, but if someone really want, which I did, which frankly you do, Marissa, and if I might give you a compliment, from the beginning you were saying I changed your life because you are an exceptional student. Why I change, because I can be your Type A. Type A. You respect the concept of spirit, you have to have respect, and the most important thing, although we can all do it, we want to do that. For example, I'm married to a man that is super spiritual, very elevated man, spiritually speaking, have no interest channeling spirit.
Marisa:Figure away from it.
Miki:One in a family is plenty. So we want to do it, to do it, and you always want to do that. You have great respect, wonderful listeners, you always follow what spirit advice. So it was a combination of yes, me helping me with helping you with the help of spirit, but you will love it with it.
Marisa:It's so interesting hearing you say that it takes time and that it's a practice because I think so many people don't necessarily stick with it because they don't trust themselves or they don't trust what they're receiving and or they receive something, they follow it, and they don't get a positive outcome immediately. And then they think, oh, that must not have been my intuition or that must not have been spirit because it didn't make me happy or it didn't make me successful right away. And many of the concepts that I learned from you that was so helpful and transformative for me in my everyday life is that it's not always going to happen without challenge and frustration because it then there's no opportunity for growth. Right. And, ultimately, we are here not only to enjoy life, but also for soul growth.
Marisa:So that really helped me find the confidence to follow those little nuggets of knowing, right, when they come and continue to follow them even when they don't in the immediate present time yield some amazing, incredible, tangible results. And the other question I wanted to ask you and bring forward to the listeners, when you're talking about channeling, you're talking about these messages and the messages that I've worked to receive, which by the way, automatic writing, which you talk about in your book, that was the method that you and I worked on, and you mentored me on one to one for a long time. And so incredible. I recommend to anybody that you get Mickey's book, Soul Secrets. You can read about it there, so we won't go into depth on it.
Marisa:But when you're channeling, when you're receiving these messages, who or what are you receiving them from? Let's talk about that because we hear people talk about, oh, my spirit guides this or my angels that. But what tell us a little bit. Tell the listener about who this team is that they have with them.
Miki:Yeah. So it's a common question, Marisa. And I would add to that question or that topic when people ask, how can I differentiate between my own inner voice and that of spirit? And again, spirituality, whether effective meditation, practicing your spiritual knowledge, anything, any spiritual topic, take time and action. You have to take your time, it's one step forward and often turn back.
Miki:So you get up again and going on and on until it stick. Also, the more effort we put, the more we signal spirit that we are excited. So they pick up the slack, which due to free will. If we do nothing, there's nothing they can do about it. So in that respect, it's important to keeping up.
Miki:So in regard to differentiate the inner voice, us, and spirit, practice make better. But the main thing I would say, our inner voice always have some negativity to it. Always. It doesn't have to be awful, but there's always a company. Yeah.
Miki:But what if? Yeah. But I'm not sure. Either doubt, negativity, or worry also. Our inner voice, the best I can describe, honey, it's very close to us.
Miki:It is loud. The voice of spirit, any spirit that'll touch the different spirit that talk to us is soft, it's loving, it's understanding, and it's beautiful. That's why in reading, spirit guides can be tough on us. That is their job. But when people come to me from other readings, let's say, in a medium say that spirit guides swear at them or angry at them or disrespectful, It doesn't work.
Miki:That wasn't a spirit guide. That was the media. Because spirit guides are evolved and elevated souls. Angels are evolved and elevated entities. They outgrew negativity.
Miki:That's not what they do. So you differentiate by knowing this is you for example. The first thing I heard from them is I love you and I said that's not something I will tell myself. So that is the easiest thing that you wouldn't say that. Also again, practice.
Miki:They stay in the background. They're not closed like the inner voice and always positive. Once again, important to bring up. Again, they can be tough. Spirit guides can be disappointed at us, but the way they deliver it is always loving uplifting.
Miki:That's why in reading, I would use the phrase, so there is a good news and there is an advice. There's no bad news in spirituality because it's not. It's all about glow. So in that we speak. In regard to who talk to us, it doesn't matter, honey.
Miki:It doesn't matter. You just do your work so you attract only light beings. I only talk about light beings. Sometimes in interview people ask Clayton, can she talk about the devil? I do not talk about anything other than light So it doesn't matter if you do the work, if you create a spiritual lifestyle, if your channel is lovely and open, only light being what you attract, because we activate law of attraction.
Miki:So again, with time spirit guides are human souls. They have incarnated into planet earth for hundreds and thousands of incarnation and they do not or they can choose not to use planet earth for growth anymore. So they remain in the spirit world and they assign themselves to each one of us. Of course, spirit guides refer to themselves as our eternal teachers and friends, delightful, wise, powerful, and unbelievably loving. So hence, there's always they're doing things up but in a loving way.
Miki:Because they're human souls, they're a little bit more casual. Their channeling is more casual. Casual. Angels are different. Angels feel different, look different, sense different.
Miki:Do you need to know who it is? No. But since we communicate with them, we simply ask them and they don't. So the little bits of detail is best not to focus on that, get to a point where you hear their channeling, and then you ask them who's talking. Mostly are the spirit guide, of course, departed loved one will introduce themselves.
Miki:It's like riding a bicycle, I think it's called in English that you don't forget. Once you do that, then the rest is just easy. It's getting there, Marissa. It's like you mentioned, no one want to meditate. Nine out of 10 of people, they said there is no time.
Miki:Sure, there is a time. I have born newborn. Then wake up before they wake up. There is always time because we need to quiet the mind. It's the how that it take where people drop along the way and just give up.
Marisa:Yeah. Do you think that's because of ego? Ego is Or just because of human?
Miki:It's you it's Ego want quick results. Ego is impatient. What we casually use the phrase ego, it's an energy or an entity that reside within the body in the same space, meaning the body of the soul. So the beautiful concept of the creator that we accompany with two entities, and really throughout an incarnation to our spiritual awareness, how good human being we are, positivity, we hoping to align ourselves with the correct energy. Humanity right now clearly align themselves with a collective ego, hence you see where we are.
Miki:So that's where it's lead up. Because they're both energy, it's growing power. What you feed grow. If you feed the ego, and again, from little simple thing that you wanna say the last word and drama, and I mean, there's on and on, I can go the ego grow in a row, where the soul sit there in the body. I use that because it's literally look like that, unable to shine through the personality.
Miki:So it's you and the ego, and that's not good. Not you and the person.
Marisa:No. It's true. I even have to discipline my ego all the time. And I've learned a lot of that from you. And I fall off the wagon all the time.
Marisa:And I always tell all my coaching clients that I'm like, it's hard work. It's really is hard work. So I'm happy to hear you say it's comforting to hear you say you take a step forward, you take 10 steps back because it is difficult, especially when we face certain energy collectively and just in our whatever goes on, just the living of life as a human being, a soul having a human experience. Just isn't always easy.
Miki:Think that as well. Although it's a tough road, my guide sometimes use the phrase, we're not letting you walk in the desert without a little bit of good cool water because there is weak. Once you start getting the reward, Marisa, relationship are better, you feel better, there's no drama, you feel more uplifted in a better mood, then that's when you won't do that. Getting late at the beginning where seemingly we don't get the result, kind of losing weight. People give up when they don't see my jeans still doesn't fit.
Miki:Play it a little bit. Just keep going a little bit more than once. Oh my God, you know the clothes fit in. Then you get excited, then you're going. We just have to have patience, which, of course, is not humanity's strong suit.
Miki:No. No. With
Marisa:respect to our guides, you mentioned they pick up the slack, right, when we put in some effort. So we make some effort. They come in. They help us. They're always guiding us.
Marisa:They're always with us, helping us to live out the blueprint, right, that we have, again, as I learned from you, that we have set out our soul as set out before our incarnation to I feel like I'm taking a test here, repeating these things. Right? I'm gonna be graded later. But, yeah, we have this blueprint for our lives with these kind of significant milestone experiences that you have. And then we also have free will are not able to ultimately step in and do life for us.
Marisa:So can you tell the listeners a little bit more about where and how free will comes into play and also what the heck a blueprint is? Because I do also think I will add knowing that knowing and believing and feeling in my own body that my soul chose some of the things that I experienced that were hard was liberating. Yes. It was freeing. Yeah.
Marisa:It was freeing. It's a freeing thing because it removes allows you to remove blame and all of these other resentment because you're like, no. I chose this or I yes. This was my free will doing. It wasn't this person or life or whatever else you come to point a finger at.
Marisa:It was like, I can take ownership, and it
Miki:allows you to bring your power back because you're like, okay. Ultimately, I'm responsible for this. And if I can listen to my soul and my guides and find my way, I have a choice. Right. That's because you are elevated, Marisa, because most people don't look at it like that.
Miki:Most people when they go through hard experiences and understand that this is the sting that the soul needed to include, unless there's certain spiritual level, they don't look at it like that. Actually, it can annoy some people, which is fine, which is normal. So your view is of someone a little bit more elevated. Also, not only you accepted, it actually helped you. So that is my goal as a spiritual teacher, to make everyone like Marissa, but not everyone.
Marisa:Oh my gosh. Yeah, I sat in the bar pretty loud.
Miki:But in regard to blueprints, so the blueprints are the detail of each incarnation. Spirit sometimes calling the blueprint of the incarnation of the lifetime. So a certain milestone where we born, the time that we born, the soul have an absolute precise moment when it gets conceived, when it's entered planet Earth, as well as when we die. When we die, how we die to the precise manner indeed is included by the soul. Some souls come here for seven years, some forty, some ninety.
Miki:Every incarnation, the soul will change. So incarnation will change from one to another. The more variation the soul bring, meaning two lifetime wouldn't be the same. If you reach in this lifetime, the soul create next or previous lifetime is poor. Why is that?
Miki:Because the sole, s o l e, the sole reason why we enter into this harsh dimension is to expand our God like essence. We crave and want to be more like God. Why? Because we are a part of him, his children, if you will. So when we enter planet Earth, we embody a physical form, and we utilize the personality to express more of our God like essence.
Miki:So certain events are indeed designed by the soul, your family unit, the parent, the sibling, kids are very much designed by the soul. So a family unit had an agreement among all the souls. You will be my mom, my father, because I was your father last night. Beautiful. Sounds simple.
Miki:It is lovely spirituality of great simplicity as we compare to religion rules. So those are indeed designed by the souls. Other things that are designed by the soul are illnesses. Illnesses are designed by the soul. Now again, depending on the level of spiritual awareness, people would say, why would I choose cancer?
Miki:You didn't choose cancer. Your soul is. The soul is part of God, the multi dimensional, immortal being that is not afraid of cancer. An illness provide the soul with a great opportunity for growth. Look when people heal, their priority change, they become more empathetic, some don't, but an illness in opportunity, it change your whole view.
Miki:You value life. Oh my god, now I'm gonna value every day because I don't want to die. I almost die. So the soul will include certain things and they refer to as our destiny. Change those?
Miki:No. If the soul decides to live at the age of 20 in an accident, that's not an accident, that's what the soul choose to live. So there's a lot of reason why the soul, you can put on the soul our mind. If it's Mickey, I want every life to live till 90 and then fall asleep and then wake up. That's more like that.
Miki:So you need to open to that. Now, free will. We're not machines, Marissa. There is no plug of a switch. We still have plenty of things that we can change, that we can get better, that we can improve, that's where free will come.
Miki:Also, if God forbid you get an illness, you don't let them okay, my soul chose it. It might not chose it. Maybe it's your lifestyle. Maybe you didn't care of the body. It's not illness, it's not just by the soul.
Miki:We're not meant to know that. We're just meant to be open to the concept. So that's when free will come, when we grow spiritually, when we serve other, when we nice to other, kind to others. That is how we help our soul to express its godlike essence, which shine through our personality.
Marisa:That's so interesting. And so I think about myself, like having cancer at 19 and 18, sorry, and 19. But and I think about my divorce. I wonder sometimes, did I create that? And ultimately, what you're saying is it doesn't really matter whether I created or not, but it's still regardless an opportunity to grow.
Miki:Yes. It doesn't matter because we are not meant to know. If you eat, I'm not gonna tell you that- We wanna know. Of course, the doctor. So it's being open to the concept.
Miki:So in regard to divorce, fifty fifty. Fifty percent of divorce, the souls are simply done with one another. Milky of ten years ago, twenty years ago is Milky of today. What I'm saying, sometimes souls just need another partner because it provides another growth opportunity. So some divorces are very much agreed upon by both souls.
Miki:Of course, marriage is to to fail. Of course. That's just common sense. That's the beauty of both. Plenty of couple come to me.
Miki:They are a soulmate as they come. Soulmate is not what people think, meaning the souls are very much meant to be together and very much meant to continue. But if one have an affair, if there's fights all the time, then the soul contract, as it's referred to, is done. So again, it's a combination of both. That's why you don't want start thinking and putting the pieces of the puzzle.
Marisa:It's complex. Say again, honey. Yes, it's complex. We live in a dynamic universe. What you
Miki:put is be open to the concept that the soul does choose big events. Sometimes it's us. Sometimes even though the soul meant to exit planet earth in a certain manner in a certain time, people drink and drive and they die because it's a risky planet. This is a material world. This is a really harsh dimension.
Miki:So although most time we go when we meant to die, we have to be careful. If we stupid, we're gonna die.
Marisa:Yeah. I am so glad that you broke that down because a lot of what I love about you so much as a medium versus some other people that I have spoken to in the past. Sometimes it's I tend to hear it more with not I don't know whether this is the reason, but sometimes with, like, people who call themselves psychics. And I don't really fully know the difference if there is one. But what I have heard sometimes from other people is I see this for you.
Marisa:This is gonna happen. This will be the case for you, and it feels, oh, no. This thing is gonna happen. It's very definitive. And so I love how you do readings and how you just are in general as a spiritual teacher in incorporating all of this truth of the role that we play in our own existence and really empowering us to seek the ants, seek the advice and the guidance around us and make our own decisions instead of receiving this reading.
Marisa:And I think a lot of people are afraid of readings for this reason. Oh, they're going to tell me I'm going to die or some prognosis. And I still even get nervous before we do readings just because, you know, my I know my guide is Mr. Serious, but Okay, Feisty and fun. Love it.
Marisa:So I'm really happy that you shared that, and I appreciate that. I would love for you to share here just before we we go. Where can people find you? Where can they book a reading with you to hear some of this stuff for themselves? Share that with us if you will, and I will link it of course in the notes.
Miki:Thank you. Thank you. So everything is in the website. My beloved husband do that for me for years, do all my marketing and client, and he's really good at that. And it's Micki as m I k I j a c o b s.
Miki:So the readings are there, anything new is there, so everything is there. I do videos periodically that I choose certain topics and talk a little bit about the books, but basically the website would be the best go to in regard to just read a little bit about myself or what I do or the type of reading, certainly book a reading or any books coming up in that new year. Yeah.
Marisa:Yes. And book in advance because this woman is always booked up and you're booked and busy in a good way. And you just have been winning awards left and right for your second book. Will you just share a little bit about your second book?
Miki:Yeah. So the second book is very dear to my heart because I absolutely, too much, adore animals. Of course, Clayton and I, we have 20 animals here, so we have a lunch in Southern California and we rescue horses, dogs, cats, parrot, tortoises, ducks, the whole thing. Many years I wanted to write that book, and the spirit advised me to do Soul Secret first, so finally I did. It took a long time, Marissa.
Miki:This is a channeled book for the most part, 80% of it, so you need why it took time, but it's comprehensive in regard to how unbelievable animals are. Of course pets as well as all animals, their mission, how spiritual they are, it's unbelievers. So it's very dear to me. In regard to the award, it became ridiculous. The fairy was celebrating one, then I come downstairs from my office, I'm like, we have another one.
Miki:Oh good, And then it's three, and then it's four, and then it's five.
Marisa:I know, I get the emails and I'm just like amazed. Know. Incredible.
Miki:Yeah, very great. It's sacred wine, honey, sacred wine. So, so that's of course also in the website if people are, if animals are close to their house and yeah. But it mean a lot to me, and I'm very honored to the help of spirits, of course.
Marisa:I am eternally grateful to you in general, but especially for being here for this conversation. Just appreciate your time, and go get a copy of Mickey's book, Soul Secrets. You can get it on Amazon. If you're one of my clients, you probably already have it. And thank you again, Mickey.
Miki:Oh, my pleasure. Thank you, Marissa. It was lovely and informative. Thank you.
Marisa:Thanks for listening to Spiritually Savvy, your go to space for the practical and the spiritual. If you're ready to go deeper, check out my manifesting mastery circle, a six month sacred group experience to help you clear your limiting beliefs, step confidently into your next level, and manifest the things you truly desire with more ease, clarity, and alignment. DM me Circle on Instagram or hit the link in the show notes to learn more. And if this episode spoke to you, don't forget to like, leave a review, and share it with a friend who's on the same path too. Your support means everything.
Marisa:Until next time, keep trusting the pull and stay spiritually savvy.