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A voice for the seekers. A compass for the sensitive. A balm for the quietly breaking hearts.
The Soul Mechanic Diaries is a tender voyage into the unseen. Part journal, part confessional, part cosmic toolbox. This podcast is where stories meet spirit, and pain becomes poetry.
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E4: Before the Body Says No • Why Stress Becomes Physical
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Ryan: [00:00:00] Okay, so very exciting day for me today because I have some guests for the Soul Mechanic Podcast. First of all, I would like my guests to tell you where we are, and I'm not gonna say who they are yet, but I'd like you to both just explain to the people listening where are we? If they're not here, describe the place.
You can go first, Bobby.
Bobby: Oh. So we are in Tenerife. We are in a sunny, warm space where it's only not for the physical body, but for the soul, for the mind and, I would say it's a sanctuary. It's a place that is really needed in these times.
Ryan: Amazing. And over to you, Marian
Marian: Yeah. I would say this place is a place where you can come and rent it and spend days as a normal tourist would do, but enjoying an atmosphere where you don't [00:01:00] find easily, and because of the quietness that it provides.
It's also a place where you can come and train your energy body and learn how to manage your stress.
Ryan: Awesome. So where we are physically, I'm sitting here at the Tenerife Healing Garden in the Canary Islands. You can probably hear birds tweeting in the background. Do you know what kind of birds they are?
Any ideas? I
Bobby: don't. Tenerife
Marian: birds. Tenerife birds.
Bobby: Canarian birds. Yeah. They are canaries.
Ryan: So I'm sitting here at this fantastic place where when I first saw it, I knew I was going to come and work here. I'm definitely going to be hosting my own retreats. So we are at the Tenerife Healing Gardens, which is on the southern part of the island. And we are literally high up [00:02:00] here on this beautiful sea view.
There is a banana plantation. They've got villas. Every villa has a swimming pool, and they've got this training dojo type of room, and there's this aura reading thing they do. So I just wanted you guys to meet the wonderful ladies who run this place, and what I'd like to do is introduce both of you officially.
So Bobby and Marian are here. And I would love to first of all ask you guys, 'cause you've given me such a, a good idea already of what people come here for and what the vibe is. Like Tenerife Healing Garden, like what do you guys, do, and who are you for? Let's start with Bobby.
Bobby: What we do here is we it is all based on a practice that combines oriental medicine moving the body combined with neuroscience.
It's this combination that works on the energy body, on the soul level through the physical body. And this is aimed... Actually, it's great for everyone. So it... Because it [00:03:00] works on all different levels, some people come here because they have really physical issues, and they need to sort out the back or neck pains.
And other people, they are going much deeper in a sense of looking for what is their purpose in their life, what's the reason they are alive, and they're really looking for something. And then I think we have the whole spectrum in between where most of us are stuck somehow, which is with the stresses of life, emotional yeah, how to process emotions.
So we are here for all those people who are looking to heal some of those parts and connect deeper with themselves.
Ryan: Awesome. And Marian how would you put it for yourself?
Marian: As Bobby said, we have this practice called the Body and Brain, which is part of the Brain Education organization.
And Healing Garden is the European headquarters for this practice, which is very [00:04:00] ex- very extended in Korea, where it's from, United States, New Zealand, Japan, and UK Europe. Even though in Europe we are still small and really growing. So Healing Garden- Is the headquarters for all those centres in Europe to be able to come here and have a communal space where they can gather.
So this is also a retreat centre. Not only we offer our villas to normal tourists, but we organize these retreats based on this practice. So it's a sanctuary, like Bobby said- ... where the space is devoted to help humanity to awaken.
Ryan: Amazing. And I think that takes us to the conversation, right?
Humanity. 'Cause it's 2026, and I know that we live in a world [00:05:00] right now where, to put it bluntly there's just a lot of collective fear, and it comes in so many different ways. It's, in terms of people being dysregulated in their bodies, but also manifests in physical form with, illnesses and chronic, conditions, all that kind of thing.
So I'd love to just dive straight in. What kind of people do you guys find coming here, and what kind of a, results do you see? And, anyone can go with whatever you want to say.
Marian: Mostly in my experience, and my own experience, is people who are very stressed and have physical pain.
They're... Because the pain, physical pain, is what unfortunately makes you really move. Until... Before the physical pain, there is some emotional discomfort, but most of us, we don't really pay attention to that. We get used to that. We are used to that.
Ryan: Yeah.
Marian: Until the body takes [00:06:00] over and says, "Okay."
"That's enough for the emotional moment. Now we're going physical, and I'm gonna start really hurting." And that's when most of us take action. So I would say most of our members, they have some sort of physical discomfort or big physical pain- ... and feeling stressed.
Ryan: Yeah. So I think you bring up something very important there because even one of my mentors, shout out to Peter Crone, I'm in a mastermind with him right now, where he says it very well.
He says that, a lot of people say they procrastinate or they're just not committed, and he says every human being is committed. The problem is what are you committed to? So like you've said, some people are literally committed to say, "I'm going to suffer emotionally until I, my body says no."
Then they change, and then they commit to maybe something else. So I feel like that's such a big topic to bring up because I'm sure, 'cause I do similar work, as you guys, which is why I love working with you and being here, is [00:07:00] that we're trying to help people act sooner because we're working with energy, and energy is the leading sort of force to everything.
As we say in quantum physics, right? It's like the wave- informs the particle. It's like whatever is physical, or we think is physical, create- was created by energy first, including what we're discussing. So I love the idea of exploring a bit about that. Maybe both of you can share a little bit of your personal stories.
I think that'll be cool. Barby, how did you first come into this work? 'Cause I'm sure you had a reason, right? What did that look like, and how did you get to this point where you're literally managing European headquarters? 'Cause maybe someone else can say, "Wow, that's me, and I could maybe one day be doing something cool like this."
Bobby: Yeah, it's true. So yeah. I was ... I think I never thought of reaching this stage in my life of doing what I'm doing right now. I always knew I wanted to help others. But actually, I started when I was around 24 [00:08:00] years old, and I was looking for something. I didn't know what, so I tried different yogas because I I saw a lot of that, and it seemed like some people were getting a lot out of it.
But I was always getting very bored in these yoga classes. So I thought some meditation. Anyway, after a lot of searching, and I think I, in the back of my head I had this question or what I wa- what I was looking for is a teacher, someone who would guide me. And then I one day stumbled upon one of the Body & Brain centres that was in Brighton, UK.
The centre's not there anymore at the moment. So anyway, I came across it. I joined a session and a class there, and I remember the first time I left this, the first session. And I was walking outside, and I called my mom, and I just said to her like, "Everything looks so much brighter." It just everything looked shinier and brighter.
And ac- actually- ... I got to this point of looking for something because I was emotionally [00:09:00] I didn't know I didn't know how to manage my emotions anymore. And I felt, at the time I didn't know, but I felt very depressed. I was looking at the world around me, and I could see everything that was wrong in the world, and I felt hopeless because I was like, "All those people that are walking around me on the street, and they don't know, like how hopeless everything is, and how many things need to be fixed, and how can I get to everyone?"
Saying I wanted to just shake them up and be like, "Wake up." And I felt horrible- ... because I was like, "The, the world is huge." And I felt like that's a task that I cannot handle. So anyway, then I joined these classes. I felt amazing after, right after the first class. So I joined right away at the centre where I could go to class.
I went five days a week after work. And i- if some days I would not do it, I would not feel great, but like it was this reset at the end of the day. And it's helped me so much, and then I did the first workshop, and I [00:10:00] connected to some part of myself that I- I didn't know I was looking for. And I learned that I just need to focus on myself.
I just, I learned not just through understanding, 'cause that's the thing I think we, a lot of us know in our heads, oh yeah, me first and then the rest. But to actually feel it in my body and in myself if I manage myself, if I make myself feel good, if I raise my consciousness level, then it automatically has an effect on people around me.
And I could literally see people around me changing for me with m- the experience between me and the other people. Other people might still have the bad experience they were always having, so yeah. And then things kept just going and rolling. I think it's like this snowball, this energy ball kept just going and going until suddenly I'm here in Tenerife running this center.
Ryan: Amazing. Yeah. That's See, that's what I love about, that's such a good example, right? It's like you said it so well, like the world was brighter. Because that's what energy [00:11:00] does. We all are made of energy. We won't go into the details of the science of it, but people hear it all the time.
And for me, one of the best things that I say to people all the time, 'cause I've been someone who will say, people say, they're like, "Ryan, you're just so positive all the time. Do you take drugs? Are you on marijuana?" I've never taken drugs in my life, and people can't believe that 'cause I'm a musician.
They're like, "Whatever." But I'm a happy guy, but that's because I was lucky with my upbringing. I've been a positive person. But I literally, as you're saying, Bobby can see the difference. That I have a very different reality to other people- ... in the same world. Yeah. So that's what I love about this.
You said it very well. It's very normal when people get awoken, whatever, they go, "I have to shake everyone up." And then you quickly get through, hopefully, that process of actually, I just need to worry about me being a good example, because it always starts with inside out.
Marian: Yes.
Ryan: So I think that's such a good example of that process. And what about
Marian What would you say has been your journey?
Marian: My journey here is completely different- ... to Bobby, and quite exceptional as I know now. Before jumping into [00:12:00] Healing Garden as a staff, I have been still are tourist in- tourist guide for the island.
So for 20-something years I spent my days in a bus, running around with tourists in many different languages, showing them the island. And then one day I received this request of taking a private group to Mount Teide. And I said, "Okay, let's do it." So it ended up that this private g- tour was with Ilchi Lee, which is the owner of Healing Garden and the founder of our practice and the organization Brain Education.
I didn't know anything. All I knew was this gentleman from Korea with a book The book said, I have decided to live 120 years, and he was going around with this book taking pictures everywhere, like with the book. And I read the book and I said, "Wow, this is not a no- [00:13:00] a novel, like a love story or po- police story kind of thing.
This is not a thriller. This is actually something of what I am very interested in, which is the holistic world." And at the time, for more than nearly a year, I had developed in my body like, ... It looked like arthritis. My joints were totally gone. Inflammation everywhere in my body. So I was in pain, in a very high level of pain.
I suffered a lot. I didn't know exactly what was going on. I didn't understand. I had ... I was also a dancer. I had to quit dancing for good. So in- inside of me, there was a lot of despair and like pain, but outside, beautiful face, beautiful smile, positive thinking. Keep going. So I met this gentleman, and I see this, this book, and during [00:14:00] lunchtime I happened to be eating with them, and so I ask, "Okay, if you read, if you've written about this stuff, it's obvious that more.
What do you do?" So he said, "I am a doctor in Chinese medicine." So I said that's convenient." And then I explained to him all my problem. Oh, look, one year ago I started with this. The doctor said ... So I stopped eating this and this, and I started taking ... And I remember he looking at me dead serious, that even as I was talking, I was thinking, "Man, this guy doesn't even tiny smile or something," it's death, deep serious. And when I finished, he said something that really was like throwing me a glass of freezing water, frozen water in my face. He said, "There's nothing wrong with your physical body. What is wrong is your vibration. You are vibrating in guilt. Guilt is your main [00:15:00] emotion, and that is very low, and you've been vibrating there for so long that no wonder why your body is sick now.
Actually, be grateful to your body that it's showing you there is something not going on well." So anyway, for me, that was very shocking. And then he said "We have this practice- I encourage you very much to start practicing. You need to make your energy circulate. There's a lot of stagnant energy in your body because of stress.
You're basically super stressed because of that emotion that you're holding, and please, you have to start moving that So of course I understood on the intellectual level, what he meant. But for me it was easier to say, "No, it's because of gluten," or, "It's because of dairy." Or, yeah, "It's because of my job is very stressful."
It was a lot easier than actually [00:16:00] take responsibility and check, oh no, it's because I am acting this way and I am thinking that way and I am feeling this way and... Anyway, so I remember starting classes with Bobby here at Healing Garden, and it was just pain. All the time pain. The most simple exercise I was crying.
I was even angry with her like, "Ah, really?" Why are you making me so hurt? Yeah. Yeah. It's oh God. Oh God, so much. So then anyway, I kept training and then as she said, the first big pro- big workshop- Workshop ... came and that was also, like, very... Had a big high impact in me.
Something, because I heard something. I don't want to say in case some of the people who's listening someday will take it, but I really heard something in my mind, and that made me, oh. Because it was n- not any more information. I went directly into the [00:17:00] experiencing. Once you experience it, it's very different.
You take it on board. It becomes part of your life. So that made me change to the point of, okay, it hurts. Never mind, it hurts. If I need a chair to sit down, I'm grateful I have a chair that I can hold on to sit down. So I started changing my mind, and then I took another program, The Warrior Arrow.
And maybe three or four months after that big program, because I, in my mind, I had totally transcended. The victim consciousness had really gone, even though it still was painful. Then I remember one day I sat down and I realized, "Oh my God, I sat down and I sat down not thinking." Oh, standing up, sitting down, standing up.
It doesn't hurt. I said, "Wow, I was really amazed." Yeah. That was for me really wow. And then one day, the [00:18:00] master who was here before, before Bobby took over, there was this other manager, and she said, "Would you like to join and be part of our staff?" And the reason I did it, it's because- I had a lot of opportunities to be with them out of the class, on a personal level, and I knew how they were struggling in certain issues.
But I could also see oh my God, these two women, they have a lot of problems, things to be worried about, bureaucracy, paperwork, setting a company. They a lot of pressure. How do they keep this bright mind, this bright attitude? How don't they make a drama? I, if I were them, I would be really devastated and couldn't, wouldn't be able to, stop thinking about it all day and that.
But how can they be so happy, genuinely [00:19:00] happy? I- if I know they have problems, but they don't seem to make that the centre of their life. It's like, okay, I have this. Yeah, I see it. I talk about it, but okay, keep going. That was what really make me choose. Yeah I really wanna learn how to be that way.
Ryan: Yeah. Which is super cool, right? 'Cause what you're talking about is like we started with this conversation, the world is a very stressful place if you choose that. And I'm not, minimizing the things that some people are really going through right now But there is this weird wisdom that comes to be like no matter what's happening outside of your body, there is this invitation to still have that inner zen or at least awareness or compassion for self.
Because another thing that I think is interesting, 'cause when I'm doing this work on my side as a, NLP, Hypnosis change worker and so on, is that I'm basically trying to show people that they have the ability to still stay grounded and calm and [00:20:00] have self-compassion. 'Cause a lot of times we're beating ourselves up.
That's what it's about. It's like it's- when someone's angry at you or stressed about something, it's usually that they're talking to themselves in a way. It's like, "I'm not good enough. I am in fear." So that maybe takes time down the line for people to understand that. But what I love about this conversation is it's just demonstrating how two people both of you, have been in situations where you went, "Oh, there was a, an A and a B.
There was a before and an after." You're still in the same worlds, but you're having completely different lives. and same thing again, Peter Crone, he says this a lot, which I love how he says there's a timeline that you are on. You're a vibration, as you said, Marian. You have a certain vibration.
Maybe it's like guilt in this case or whatever, and it's not a very high vibration. So your reality or your timeline, when you get to another two, three, five years, there are certain things that are gonna happen. Your body's gonna get sick da. It's very likely, right? But if you jump frequency and th- they say the same thing again.
It's like having a radio station. If you're listening to, what, 99.9 FM- ... and it's like death metal, let's just say for example, 'cause it's like [00:21:00] ch-ch-ch-ch-ch, and it's a lot of, stress on the body maybe. Then you went, "But I want classical music." But it's but you're on the wrong frequency.
You need to go to 107.5, and it's up to you to change the dial. And then you go kkk and oh, some Rachmaninoff. Much better, right? That's how life literally is. That's why we see so many people walk- walking the same lifestyle, having different experiences. It's the frequency you're on. So for me, I love that idea of this is a good example.
You guys are literally on a different timeline. Had you not done the work you'd done- ... you certainly would not be sitting here, and you maybe not would've been able to sit still. It's really interesting.
Marian: Definitely not.
Ryan: So what I'd like to talk about now is like for anyone who's listening in, and you're out there, and you're already going,
"Okay, I'm in.
Tell me more, guys. What is going on?"
Let's talk about the journey to the Healing Garden. What kind of people do you guys invite over here? What kind of events or classes do you do? And I know that you have retreats- ... but you also do classes. So let's talk about that. What do they look like?
And let's maybe start with that, like from the beginning. Someone who [00:22:00] is completely new to this topic, where do they stand? Like, where do, where should they go first? What would you recommend they do if they come to your website?
Bobby: I suggest classes is the best way to start because, yeah, you can join a, a retreat and that will be great.
But even after retreats, then y- you need a basis, you need a foundation. And classes is the best way to create this foundation because it's like you were saying, it's about frequency, right? And it's about changing that dial. And sure, on a radio you do- you click one button, you click the next, then you are on a different dial.
But how does it work with my body? Like, how do I change frequencies? It's such a simple concept, and it's very simple to do, but if you have never learned how to then yeah, it's like I understand that you're clueless. So in class you learn to connect to your body, and you learn how to manage energy, your own energy.
And this is the most basic thing because that's where you start [00:23:00] in your own body. That's where you're you're living at the moment, right? Yes. On your journey on Earth. Yeah. So yeah, as you join the classes, then you enter the experience. And a lot of people enter a class, and they have no idea really what to expect or what's going to happen.
So I guess this element of surprise is also something yeah, that belongs to starting the journey at Healing Garden. And and from there we have workshops, and we have different trainings. But we, yeah, we want our members to be ready for them. I don't want to sell the workshops because it's not, not everyone is ready for them right away.
Ryan: Yeah.
Bobby: But classes are because you just ... You get out of class exactly what you need. We will have members who have been doing this for 10 years and for two days, or they are 15 years old and 77 years old. And they all work together. They all will participate in the same class.
Ryan: Yeah. Yeah, it's important to also add these classes you're talking about, they happen on site here in Tenerife, but they also happen online. Yeah. So wherever you are in the world, you can [00:24:00] go to, healinggardentenerife.com, and you can actually sign up for classes and join them online. And I believe every class you do here on, on site is also online.
Is that correct?
Bobby: Yes.
Ryan: Yeah.
Bobby: That's true. Whatever's on site will happen online as well.
Ryan: Yeah.
Marian: Yeah, I would like to also add these classes are extremely easy to follow. Because people think, oh, yoga. Yoga, I like to always say yoga means union. Mind, body union. So these classes are going to help you bring your mind and body together.
And-
Ryan: So tell us about that. What are you doing? Is it yoga? What are you guys doing?
Marian: What we do is called Body and Brain, which is like she said, is a fusion between Qigong principles and the neuroscience. Neuroscience is all the modern discoveries about how the brain works, how the brainwaves work, and how to actually [00:25:00] affect and change those brainwaves in a easy way.
Because it's all about balance. Your nervous system needs to be balanced, and the problem here is that most of us, we are off balance be- meaning that our brainwaves are really high. And so how to bring them down, how to make your nervous system be quiet and in balance- Yeah ... it's actually very easy.
Ryan: Yeah.
Marian: So that's one of the things about these classes, they're very easy to follow. It's for all levels. And if you are like me, I was very much in pain when I begun, and many things I couldn't do, but still I couldn't perform exactly like they are meant to be done, but never mind. I did what I could, and the benefit is always there.
Ryan: Yeah.
Marian: And now you're, now
Bobby: she's
Marian: teaching, right? And now I
Ryan: am. There you go, right? Like that's, so talk about transformation, right? Yeah. And tell me about that. Like maybe just quickly, let's talk about maybe a couple of examples of like other people who've joined [00:26:00] and what have had some dramatic, ex- sort of results for the work.
Like you'd mentioned someone earlier who...
Bobby: Yeah. I actually, I want to share s- one that I didn't mention earlier. So this was already over 10 years ago. A guy with fibromyalgia. And so someone with fibromyalgia suffers pains through their whole body. And he was already walking on crutches and not able to stand by himself.
So o- or with the crutches or he would always be sitting. And he entered the centre where I was working and decided to, was like, "Okay, I'll t- I'll try a class." And so he did everything sitting on a chair or like very barely moving his arms and- Not moving his legs. But he was consistent. He came every day to class, and suddenly he was like,
"Oh I'll try and stand in class."
And he did that. And then suddenly he was like I'll not take the chair, and I'll sit down on the floor." And before you knew it, he came in walking without his cr- crutches. [00:27:00] Wow. And that was really amazing to see. Really. Like this huge transformation, and like it was a journey. And I could see how much the, yeah, the exercises, even though they are so simple they help move what is stagnant in the body.
And yeah, it works on your mind, it works on your emotions, and then you can see the results in your physical body. And yeah, that's one of the amazing... i've seen many amazing stories, but that one I always love - ... because the people who I've seen with fibromyalgia, I'm always telling them this story
because I know it's possible to get out of the suffering - ... from the physical body.
Ryan: Yeah.
Bobby: Yeah.
Ryan: That's such a great example. And what's important about that as well is what you're talking about is I can tell what's super important about this conversation is that wherever you are, whether you're in Tenerife or out there in the world, is that you guys are always there.
That's the thing. It's like there's this seems to be this thing of like even with this man you're talking about with fibromyalgia, it's like it can be a [00:28:00] regular thing. Keep coming, and oh, now I have feel confident enough to stand because he kept coming - Yeah ... and you're always there - ... because the classes are ongoing.
I think that's something that's also important, for people to understand. And with that, I want to actually talk quickly about, you mentioned like a good entry point is the classes online and in person, then you mentioned workshops and retreats. Tell me about who out there can say, "Oh yeah, I'm ready for those."
Who would be ready to just come straight into a workshop or a retreat?
Bobby: I'll say especially retreats, Anyone that's looking for a change, basically. I think like there's such an immersive time where you're just like only doing that the retreat for example, that is a time where you can also come in with your intention, like something you want to change or you feel stuck or you feel lost.
And I think anyone who is a little bit confused about where they're going to, in what direction in their lives, this is a [00:29:00] very huge can be a huge turning point- Yeah ... and a big help.
Ryan: Amazing. So I actually want to dive into something a little bit different. Like I'm curious, tell me about life in Tenerife.
I just wanna know more about like maybe even the Healing Garden or, 'cause it sounds like a very sort of community, like family kind of place. You guys got a dog, there's some, kids around and like you've got this beautiful island that's full of amazing opportunities to do hiking, there's water sports.
Paint a picture of life in Tenerife like for you guys. What's that like?
Bobby: Actually I moved to Tenerife to do this. And Marian has been here how long? I
Marian: have been here since 1998, so a long time, and I have seen the island change so much. But however these islands provide mostly everyday good weather. So this is the main reason why everybody comes here, because the weather here is very nice.
And then when they come here and just for the sunshine, they realize, [00:30:00] oh God, plus they are so beautiful. Just Tenerife itself is the has got the largest volcano of Spain, mostly of Europe. It offers a great variety of landscapes lot of hiking possibilities. You can water sports also high-risk sport, sports, you say that?
Like 毕竟
Bobby: Paragliding ...
Marian: paragliding and stuff. Amazing corners to discover. Canaria people are lovely. I think it's because of the sunshine that they have this beautiful welcoming personality. They're warm humble as well. So you can see that everywhere you go.
And it offers you what every other big resort could offer you, like entertainment, five-star hotels, luxury, plus [00:31:00] on the other hand, all the t- all the rural
Bobby: possibilities- Food, gastronomy Yeah, I think it's, I- like I, I came here to, to do the job- ... to do the project. So when I came here the first time, I never thought of Tenerife or the Canary Islands or go visit them.
And the idea before was always like, "Oh, I would love to travel to Asia." And to Thailand and to do this and to do that. Yeah, far
Marian: away.
Bobby: Yeah. But then I came here, and I was driving with a car, no clue really where I was going, just like driving around. And then I enter Masca, and I was literally like, "Wow."
Like the landscape, I was not expecting that. And it's only 20 minutes from where we are now. Where we are now is like this dry- It's very dry ... more desert-like landscape. And then, yeah, suddenly you go over the ridge of the mountain literally, and then you are in, I don't know, seems like the Machu [00:32:00] Picchu mountains.
Or the amazing beaches. It's just incredible. I think it's incredible as a tourist and even living here. I bring my daughter to school in Adeje, and then every morning I see the, those mountains.
Marian: Yeah, it's
Bobby: so amazing. And then in my head I hear this voice like, "You go to
Marian: school here?"
Like really. It's amazing.
Ryan: It's typical. Yeah. Very powerful microclimates as well, yeah.
Marian: Yeah. And because nature is very present. You can see it-
Ryan: Which is our original- ... everywhere ... yeah, this is the thing. Like nature is what we use to heal and need to heal. So I love the fact that you're living in it.
And actually, tell me about that. You've got a banana plantation. What do you guys do with
Marian: that? Bananas?
Bobby: We make bananas. We- The previous owners of this of this estate-
Ryan: Yeah ...
Bobby: they were in the banana production. We've removed a big part of the banana production, but we've kept the biggest we call it banana farms.
And so the main reason for that is we still produce the bananas, then we sell them to the
Ryan: co-op. But
Bobby: it is actually a very special and [00:33:00] magical place. I think we've infused a lot of the energy of the practice in every corner of the property as well. Yeah. So it has this really added element.
But it's interesting to see if you learn how a banana plant grows and evolves and reproduces- ... it can bring you a big reflection on yourself. And on, on family dynamics, on, Generational ... your ancestors Yeah And your ancestors, exactly that. So we bring our members there as well when there's a retreat.
That's a part of the practice.
Ryan: Yeah.
Bobby: Because I think any element you can use with the right state of mind or with the right story- ... and we bring them there and we explain all of that, and that together with the added element of already doing the inner work, it brings up a lot of awakenings.
Ryan: Yeah, 'cause I asked that because when I first came here, it was one of the places that actually had an effect on me. I felt it. I was like, "Whoa," because it's like it feels like this otherworldly place because it's a banana, as you said, farm or plantation, but it's kind- it's [00:34:00] covered by this hessian because of the, the atmosphere and stuff.
But there was an energy of just peace and calm, and it's big. So I was just walking in there and I just felt so nice to be in there. And then, explaining how the bananas or whatever it is there the parent trees and how they work and the plants. So I just think it's such an interesting place to experience.
As you've said, there's so much variety here, and what I'd like to ask you now is I'm very curious, as the Healing Garden- Let's talk about who are you interested in connecting with? 'Cause sometimes it's not just about you being a business and people coming to be here. Are there any other businesses perhaps, or any other industries, or just cool human beings out there that you would love, if they're listening to this, to go, "Yeah, get in touch.
We'd love to connect with..." Whatever it is. Other retreat centre or certain, lifestyle people, or certain kind of community or personalities. Just go wild and just yeah, dream with me. Almost go big. Go, "Oh my God, it would be amazing to..." I don't know.
You finish the sentence. Let's do the [00:35:00] dream. What does that look like? People, stuff, like who's this gonna energetically find out there and invite them in?
Bobby: I like to say we're always looking for vision partners. So the work that we do is not just to, so that the business can run. There's a vision behind it, and the vision is to raise the sh- the consciousness of the earth.
So it's all about self, like self development and self, and then that kind of work to raise your consciousness so that you can affect positively the people and the places around you. And we're always looking for these vision partners, so who want to participate in doing this. And and it might be someone who has been doing this for a long time and needs a bigger, wants a bigger community to do this together.
Or maybe this is the first time you're hearing about it, but it's still, it's like calling something inside of you or something inside of you is waking up when you hear this. I think those are the best people. Sounds amazing. [00:36:00] I'm in. Oh, yeah, I'm here too. That's, to be honest, that's why I'm here. I...
Ryan: And it was, and I was like- Yeah ... something's calling me here, and I was like, "That's it. We're working together."
Marian: Sure. It was. Yeah when you were talking, I could hear in my hea- in my head, shine bright." People who are ready to shine bright- ... and brighter and make their environment brighter and share that bright light around.
And I was thinking also of Tony Robbins. Something- He can give us a call.
Ryan: Come and bring some lightning bolts.
But this is it, that's what I love about the world we live in. As we said, if everything's energy, then let's put it out there and let's see who comes and b- who is called in because you never know. And I think that's a beautiful place to wind it down, and I would love to now talk about if anyone's listening, how can they get in touch?
How do you prefer to be contacted? And what is on the calendar for 2026 so far?
Bobby: The best [00:37:00] ways to get in touch with us or to see what we're doing is Instagram, Tenerife Healing Garden and or the, the website as well. And then through the website you can contact us right into our email. And, and yeah, what's going on this year? So we have a few retreats planned. We started actually this year the Love Myself retreat that we did the first one in February, which was... It was beautiful.
Marian: Yeah.
Bobby: It was really beautiful. It was fully booked. We had more people wanting to join during the retreat.
So there's one coming up in June and another one in September. Nice. We also do private retreats, so May is usually the month of private retreats, but we have the whole year to organize them as well. And these are bigger groups. So whether you are a bigger family who wants a retreat or a group of friends, and then we tailor them to what you want.
Marian: Yeah. We have one of our retreats that we organize [00:38:00] for our American members and sometimes also for Europe, it's called a Tenerife Meditation Tour. Which you were asking before about Tenerife. So in this program, what we do is that we take them out to visit the island, but not just from the tourist point of view, but from the energy point of view.
So we take them to specific points, Mount Teide, Dragon Tree, Masca, Garachico, the ocean, the forest, and we go there. We admire the beauty of the place, of course. Me as a tourist guide, so I can explain so many stuff, but mostly we make trainings. We conduct trainings in those pl- powerful places to connect- with the energy of that particular spot. It's very powerful. So this is happening in May as well.
Bobby: Yeah, in May we have one.
Ryan: That's cool, 'cause that's the one I've seen where you've got [00:39:00] like a big view by the seaside, and you're doing those cool like Karate Kid poses- Oh yeah ... when you do your- practices and I think it's super cool. Amazing. So thank you very much for hanging out with me today and sharing a little bit of your energy, and for everyone who's listening, thanks for, yeah, listening in, and of course you know what to do. I'm sure you've already decided if you're listening to this and you're going, "I need to get involved," you know where to find us.
Find The Healing Garden website on Instagram as well. Of course, the show notes will have all the links. And to close off, I would love to ask you both one farewell message. If you're to leave a message right now, you both have, you're both parents, so go 20 years into the future and think about your kids, how old they are at that age, and I would like you to leave them a message to say, "This is my message to you."
What would you say to them?
Marian: I would say[00:40:00]
I love you
And live your life with courage and have fun I love that. Have fun, especially that. Yes. Courage and fun. Yeah, I was just gonna say, don't take life so seriously I think I'm in the process myself now to really learn that things don't need to be so serious, and that- That life, the life that I live is perfect.
Bobby: I don't need to live by anyone else's ideas or that I may have. So yeah, li- don't take life so serious and yeah, make it fun. Laugh, and I'm sure you're doing a very good job already.
Ryan: Beautiful. I love that so much. Thank you very much. So with that wonderful message, I'd like to sign off and say thanks for joining me.
I'm Ryan Koriya, the Soul Mechanic, on the Soul Mechanic Diaries podcast. And as you can see, once in a while, I'm going to give you guys some juicy episodes with guests from who knows [00:41:00] where next time. And till then, stay well.