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A podcast for multi-skilled coaches and experts who are ready to leverage their unique expertise, create money overflow all while embodying ease. Discover how to stop forcing things in your business and start letting your natural life force guide you... so you can spend less energy, get bigger rewards, and make the kind of impact you were born to create.
Today, I am here with Rachel Hall, the gorgeous Rachel. We just saw each other a little while ago because I went to your retreat, in the UK, which was amazing. And Rachel is an embodiment coach specializing in the pelvic floor and womb wisdom. And her work dives deep into the innate intelligence of the body and supports students to embody strength, safety, and connectedness, and to be truly empowered through their ever deepening relationship with the body and themselves. Rachel has worked with thousands of people all over the world, and she is supporting mothers, entrepreneurs, dancers, athletes, thought leaders to connect and integrate the wisdom of their body into their moment to moment consciousness in daily life.
Relinde Moors:Beautifully, set. And I did wanna read that, to introduce you, Rachel, because for me, you you know, like, I'm we both have backgrounds as dancers in different, you know, pathways, but definitely and for me, your practices ground me, and they give me the access to the body. So I really love the way usage, embodiment, and movement, and tapping into that inner wisdom. And I'm very excited to for people listening to this to meet you today and to have a beautiful conversation about all this with you. So welcome.
Rachael Hall:Oh, Thank you, Willinda. It's such a pleasure to be here. And it always feels like such an honor that you love my work so much. You know, it it just continues to really touch me because I feel like we've actually been working together for a few years now. We've known each other for a few years longer than that.
Rachael Hall:Yeah. Yeah. And it always just really touches me. You know, you're such a seasoned entrepreneur. You're a seasoned dancer and mover.
Rachael Hall:And, yeah, it just means a lot. I think that that the practices that I share resonate so deeply with you. Yeah. And it's all to have you in the classes. I always kind of, I don't know, get a little boost when I see your face pop off on the screen.
Relinde Moors:I always try to join live. I I'm honestly one of the re players, like, the I'm using so Rachel has a beautiful membership already to mention that, that I recommend to to literally everybody. Like, try this. It's so different. And, yeah.
Relinde Moors:You just do a beautiful you just do such a beautiful job in bringing it together in a way that feels so simple. But every class, I learn more about my body, about the anatomy, but really about the feeling sense. And always, I have a yoga studio in the garden, as you know. So I walk to my yoga studio in my garden. I pop on a racial class.
Relinde Moors:But I can't define it because you know, like, I just pilates. But I'm all I always say I do a Rachel practice. It doesn't feel like it feels like its own universe, honestly, to me. And, and I go in there, and I do it, and I come out a different human. And it's doesn't matter if I have half an hour or an hour, and it's really beautiful.
Relinde Moors:But where should we begin? We said when we before we started this podcast, we said that we would wanna unpack the title of this podcast, which I love, this choosing ease. And, and you wrote that down, before we met. And tell me what that is for you, that choosing ease, why that really resonated with you.
Rachael Hall:It really resonates, choosing ease. I feel like just that phrase, it just hearing that does something to my nervous system. It feels like a permission. You know? Just the fact that you've chosen that as your title of your podcast, choosing ease.
Rachael Hall:And it's not what we're taught, I don't think, in in our lives. It certainly wasn't what I was taught when I was a trained dancer. The opposite, like, don't ever choose ease. Like, don't ever choose something that feels easy. I really have this memory ingrained into my system of, I I was in a ballet class in the Ashton studio.
Rachael Hall:I'm pretty sure it's the Ashton studio at the Royal Ballet Lower School. And I remember I was working. I was dancing, but I was probably working about 80 or 90 percent of my full capacity. And I remember the teacher just looking across, like, what is wrong with you? Are you ill?
Rachael Hall:And I just had this pressure to feel like I always had to work 200% and really override any natural intelligence or wisdom, you know, just push push on through. I danced with stress fractures in my feet. You know, I didn't yeah. I guess it just kind of led me and other dancers to burn out this concept of just pushing through and not ever choosing ease. It wasn't even a pat like a paradigm for me.
Rachael Hall:And it wasn't until I met this work, the Franklin method was the first time where I just actually felt a real ease in my body. I remember I was in Australia working with a good friend of mine, Bruce Hildebrand, who was studying the Franklin method at the time. And then when he came back and he shared all of his learnings, I was like, oh my gosh. This is just what is this? What is this feeling in my body?
Rachael Hall:And I just fell in love with that. I just fell in and I think that's what probably what you feel in my classes. It's like, what is this? This is something just beyond. And then I think from that the basis of my work has been, has grown.
Rachael Hall:And, but it's still a learning curve for me. Like I am still having to remind myself to choose ease because I think it goes against the grain. You know? We even my husband said to me this morning, actually, have you got a busy day ahead? And I was like, yes.
Rachael Hall:You know, I felt like even if I didn't, I felt like I would have to say yes. I'm busy. I'm worthy. You know, and even if I don't have a busy day, I pretend that I do because I'm like, well, he would just think I'm a slacker if I. But I feel like this choosing ease is a new paradigm that I really want to step fully into because I feel like there is so much magic in this choosing ease.
Rachael Hall:I know I'm talking quite a lot, which is obviously the point of a podcast. But if you can't drop it at any point but I was thinking, yeah, it's I feel like we have so much magic in us when we choose ease and we choose quiet instead of being so perpetually busy. And, of course, we can create and make magic when we're busy too. You know, busy is important too sometimes, and that go go go energy has to be there to make things happen. But I feel like, you know, nothing it's not sustainable to keep going at this pace that we go at, and it's a bit distracting.
Rachael Hall:I feel like I don't know. It's a bit sounds a bit like a conspiracy theory, but, you know, why do we have to be so busy? I feel like it distracts us from our truth and from our magic and the things that we can create if we did choose ease and we just sat with ourselves and didn't have to be doing doing doing and instead we could just be and just feel. So I feel like, yeah, in a great big nutshell, that's why it resonates with me, this choosing ease, because it feels like a path that I want to follow more. It feels like a path that I'm weaving into my work.
Rachael Hall:You know, my workouts that I teach within my aligned membership, we work out and we we strengthen our muscles and our bones and our joints, but I aim to do it in a way that feels not easy, but I can do hard things and I can do it with ease. I can be challenged and
Relinde Moors:That is such a big one. Yeah. Yeah. I love that. But exactly this, Rachel, does you can do hard things and you can be productive and at the same time be at ease.
Relinde Moors:I mean, I think in your classes, what you teach, and this might be a Franklin method principle, but you teach it in your way, which is that you have to that you don't want what is the exact phrase that I heard you say is don't put tension into an already tensed system. Is that right? Do I remember that right? So it's like for me, it was like, oh, wow. So I have really tensed shoulders, whatever.
Relinde Moors:And I'm gonna do a lot of weights, and I'm gonna work out hard. And but my body was already tensed, and I'm gonna put in more tension to after that fall into a complete collapse, which that might feel like relaxation. But it doesn't have this happy middle of I'm open and relaxed, and I am also Yeah. For example, being able to be strong or to be achieving or anything like that. Yeah.
Rachael Hall:Well, I think, when we work out, it can be an opportunity just to be aware of what we're what we're practicing. It can be another sacred practice. It could be a meditation. It could be another opportunity to to work our bodies hard but to practice. I want to be calm, I want to be present as I'm working out.
Rachael Hall:And I remember quite a few years ago, I got into running and I was just so exhausted after each run. And I think it was because I was already probably really burnt out, and then I'm just pushing my adrenals and pushing my body even more because I feel like I should be Yeah. Well, I want to work out and I wanna feel fit. You know? But I was so curious.
Rachael Hall:Why am I coming home and I'm I'm exhausted. I feel like I need a nap after I've been for a run. Like other people are saying that it's energizing them and it's doing the opposite to me. And I think it was because I had a lot of unlearning to do in my body. I had a lot of unpicking.
Rachael Hall:I didn't realize that I was perhaps as tense as I was. I didn't realize that I wasn't breathing properly. I didn't realize that my diaphragm wasn't moving. And I think this is another thing with dancers. And maybe not just dancers.
Rachael Hall:I'm sure it's not just dancers, but you kind of put on this brave face, you smile, you carry on, but actually, what what is it that you're masking underneath? I mean, from the outside, it might look like everything is fine. I had an example of this this weekend. What was it? Something happened this weekend.
Rachael Hall:Oh, that was it. I was walking down a mountain on Sunday and, and my knees were really sore walking down this mountain. I was thinking, I shouldn't have sore knees. You know, my job is to look after the body. Why am I the one with these sore knees?
Rachael Hall:So I was thinking, no, I'm just gonna, like, I'm just gonna push on through, push on through and not tell anyone. And then it got to the point where I was like, we need to stop. We just need to stop for 5 minutes and I just need to strap my knee up. And I was just sharing with my friends that, you know, I've got I've got quite a high pain threshold, and I've got a really high resilience threshold because I've been taught to do that. But is it really that healthy?
Rachael Hall:I don't know. It's something that I've been proud of, but I don't know. I feel like I'm in this moment in my life where, you know what? Just just listen to your body, listen to what it's telling you because otherwise it's gonna start screaming louder and louder and louder, and you'll get sick. You'll get burnt out.
Rachael Hall:You'll get injured if you don't listen to that wisdom in your body a little bit sooner. So I feel like this is the thread. Yeah. This is the thread at the moment for me. And I know you're doing my wise womb course as well, but it's, you know, diving into the wisdom of the body.
Rachael Hall:We spoke about before the beginning of the podcast that you, you know, your body has all of the answers. And I know we hear this phrase, your body has all of the answers. But it really does. You know, if you're able to quiet in everything else and just drop in and tap in and listen to the wisdom of various parts of you. And I know maybe for some people listening, how on earth do I you know what does that even mean?
Rachael Hall:How on earth do I do that? But something that's really coming through for me at the moment is we are nature. We're not separate from nature. We are acting as if we're separate from nature because we don't listen to our cycles, whether they're menstrual cycles or whether they're just, you know, the cycles of the day, cycles of production, and our productivity. We and even how we're treating our planet.
Rachael Hall:We we're acting as if we are not our planet. We're acting as if we're not nature, But we are. And I think the more we can really truly remember that not even just as a concept but as an embodiment. I I I am nature and I have cycles and I need rest. And sometimes I'm going to be so productive and in bloom and have so much abundance and sometimes there'll be nothing.
Rachael Hall:And I'll be tired, and I might be sad, and that's okay. You know, it's it's and and actually really just allowing yourself to fully dive into all of those moments and not having to override them. I feel like it would give our lives such a different rhythm. And it would also, you know, talking to entrepreneurs and and people with their own businesses or even people that work for others. I don't know.
Rachael Hall:It feels like it would give us a more sustainable way of working if we were able to tap into these natural cycles and rhythms.
Relinde Moors:Yeah. Absolutely. And isn't that hard? I mean, I know that you are very busy. I mean, you have your classes.
Relinde Moors:In the past months, I think you were teaching twice in retreats in New York. Like, you're traveling. You're doing all these things. How do you do it? Like, how do you listen to your cycles even when you are somebody who's in a who who achieves, who puts themselves out there?
Relinde Moors:There? Like, sometimes that feels like two ends of the spectrum. How how do you do it personally?
Rachael Hall:Yeah. I mean, it's definitely a work in progress. I don't do it perfectly. Yeah. And you've you've known me for long enough to know that I'm a real yes person.
Rachael Hall:I just love if something comes into my path, I'm like, well, yes, of course, I'll do that. Of course, I'll go to New York twice in a month. Of course. It that's just part of me, I suppose, that that that kind of thing, events and adventure really excites me. So what I'm still learning about myself, I haven't mastered it, but I'm still learning about myself is to just tap into those cycles.
Rachael Hall:So now I've got 2 weeks at home before I have my next trip away. And I'm really just trying to pare back as much as I can. Instead of saying yes to things while I'm at home actually, I'm just gonna say no to things a little bit more and just say yes to the things that really light me up. But the rest of the time try to get slightly earlier nights. Try to just be home more because I'm a real home bird as much as I, you know, I'm such a traveler.
Rachael Hall:I love travel, but I'm also really a home bird. And I think at heart, I'm probably an outgoing introvert. So I I really like quiet and just being able to regulate myself. So that's how I'm managing it at the moment. Just for example, today, of course, I wanted to fit in all of the things, but I was like, no.
Rachael Hall:Do you know what? I'm not. I'm teaching a class, and then I'll have lunch, and then I'll do a meditation. And then I've got my session with Relind, our podcast together. But it's still so tempting.
Rachael Hall:I want, you know, oh, go to the gym first thing. But then I was thinking, you know, if I if I squeeze that extra thing in, I'm not going to feel as embodied. I'm not going to feel as as present. And I don't I would do such perhaps, who knows? But what what I know about myself is that my superpower is my presence.
Rachael Hall:And I think that's probably the same for all of us, but my superpower is my ability just to be able to drop in and then speak my truth from that place. And it's a bit trickier to do that when I'm feeling more wired and frazzled. So, yeah, like I said, it's still a burning curve because I love doing all the things. But, yeah, the the quiet really draws me in too. So I'm just trying to weave in some moments of quiet throughout the week.
Relinde Moors:I love that. And how you prioritize the feeling, how I'm feeling. You prioritize that more than doing all the things or maybe even being super duper prepared and thinking it through and, like, overthinking it as we often do. It's more about how can I be present and how am I feeling in that moment? And the moment you prioritize that, at least that's what I hear you say, then everything can actually flow much better.
Relinde Moors:And, in in your work, you you do a lot with the womb and the pelvic floor and this area. Does this have anything specific to do with that? I'm curious why that has your fascination, and why you bring it. Yeah. Yeah.
Rachael Hall:So I guess I was first firstly drawn to the pelvic floor after the birth of my second daughter when I suffered a prolapse. And I thought, well, at first I just I felt quite lost and quite hopeless even though actually I had all of the tools. When something like that happens to you, suddenly I don't know, I just had that moment of like, oh my gosh. What am I gonna do? And then, you know, after that period of, I I guess, I don't know what the word is, but just coming to terms with the fact that I did all the things.
Rachael Hall:I did all the hypnobirthing. I did all the things. Why do I have a prolapse? You know, I'm a pelvic I'm a pelvic floor coach. I'm a pilates teacher, and how is this possible?
Rachael Hall:So once I'd kind of come to terms with Yeah. Well, these things can happen to anyone, of course, and they do happen to anyone and everyone. I mean, I feel like probably everyone on the planet, but particularly women, we all have a story with our pelvis and our pelvic floor and with our with our womb and all of our pelvic organs. We all have a story and we all have a relationship with it whether that's a positive or negative one. But often this area is is a taboo area and it's it has been a shameful area and it's not an area that we talk about freely.
Rachael Hall:So at first, I felt very stuck with it And then I thought, well, you know what? I've got these tools. I've got these tools. Let me put something together for myself to help to get myself strong again from the inside out. And then I it just felt a natural progression.
Rachael Hall:I need to share this because it can't just be me that's suffering with this. And then the more I started to speak about it, and I think the fact that I was honest with it, that was a real people really resonated with that. They were like, thank goodness. You know, I've had this too. And so many people were sending me emails and messages.
Rachael Hall:So that's why I put together the first ultimate pelvic floor plan, which was a live course, and I I ran it a few times. And then I put together an evergreen program now. So it's a 4 week program that people have forever. So it's lifetime access access. And I think it's something about me.
Rachael Hall:I can't just regurgitate the same thing. It's probably something in my human dessert design that I have to it lights me up to keep growing and to keep learning. You know, I know it's a great business strategy.
Relinde Moors:Yeah.
Rachael Hall:You just do what works and you do it over and over and I get that. But I feel like my inspiration comes with just learning, diving deep, and and growing with the material. So this is where wise womb came from because it feels like, you know, the the pelvic floor and the pelvis is that container, But then the next level of depth for me at the moment and there'll be another evolution. But for me at the moment, it feels like it's in the womb. And I also feel like this is a moment in my career where I'm diving into almost a bit of a new realm.
Rachael Hall:So Pilates teacher, dancer, biomechanics coach, Franklin method educator. And all of these things come together and weave into the work that I do, but there is another layer deeper, a little bit the universal health principles that I know you and I studied in New York. Yeah. But also my insights. You know, this is the moment where something new is really coming through me.
Rachael Hall:I don't have to say this is this, this is that. It's like, oh, no. This is the wisdom. It's not mine either, but this is what's coming through me in this moment. And that feels liberating.
Rachael Hall:It feels a bit exposing as well, you know, that not being able to fully hide behind something that's very mainstream, which I guess in a way I was
Relinde Moors:gonna say methods. From the else's Yeah. Like, this is somebody else's method. I'm doing it right. I take all the boxes.
Relinde Moors:This is, like, act actually really coming through you. Yeah.
Rachael Hall:Wow. So it does How
Relinde Moors:did you how how do you navigate that that that that vulnerable part of that and then still stepping into that?
Rachael Hall:Yeah. I
Relinde Moors:think people listening recognize that. So I'm really curious how that experience is for you in this moment.
Rachael Hall:Yeah. And I am navigating it. I'm still navigating it. And I think this is probably a lifelong thing, isn't it? Because you you navigate this thing and then you drop a level level deeper, then you navigate that, and then you drop a level deep.
Rachael Hall:So currently, how I'm navigating it is I think it's with it's a few things. So one is it's the practices that I have that allow me just to drop in and to feel what the messages are that are coming through. And I feel, this a little bit ties into something you said earlier to do with the flow because I feel business becomes easier in a way when you're well, in many ways, when you're in that flow because you're in flow and you're in rhythm. So you'll you'll you'll open the page to the perfect page. So when I'm teaching a class, I don't spend hours prepping for it now.
Rachael Hall:I'll just tune in and I'll oh, yes. This book. I'll take that book and I'll that's the perfect quote. And then and then that that forms the basis for what I'm gonna teach that day. So in very many ways, it's easier than when I used to spend 3 hours prepping for 1 class.
Rachael Hall:And I know that comes out. I've been teaching for 22 years, so I know there's, you know, an accumulation of knowledge and and experience. But it feels like that ability to be able to drop into me gives me more access to the material that wants to come through in that moment. And it also feels I'm just kind of following this thread. It feels almost like I can't ignore it.
Rachael Hall:You know how the work that I teach is about sensing your sensing the just very subtle energies in your body. Sometimes they're not so subtle, but sometimes more subtle energies And then it's the same with creativity, sensing it is, oh, it's this that wants to come through. And it's it really has just kind of been birthed through me in a way. It's like, oh no, it wants to be this. Is it wise womb?
Rachael Hall:Is it womb wisdom? No, it's wise womb. And it's just listening to the yeses and listening to the noes and kind of following is it this image, no it's not, it's this image and actually not overthinking, feeling with it more. No.
Relinde Moors:Also it's not inner knowing.
Rachael Hall:Yeah. Yeah. Just that it is that inner knowing and that inner compass. We spoke about this a bit on the retreat, didn't we? Just, I don't really want anybody else's compass guiding me anymore.
Rachael Hall:I I really wanna tap into my inner compass. And I also get support as well. So I've been seeing, I don't know what you'd call her work, but she's a healer really twice a month. So last March, I had a really big shift in my career and just a really upsetting moment that really threw me off balance. So since then, I think probably at least once a month, some but mostly twice a month, I've been seeing this healer.
Rachael Hall:And we've just been diving deep into sensations in my body that are linked to memories and linked to belief systems and actually seeing them, giving them whatever they need, and then releasing them. And that I feel like that has really helped me no end because if I have a feeling I'll take it to her. We'll explore it in the session and then I feel like it's gone. And that just it it feels magic. So I'm realizing how important it is, especially as we're growing.
Rachael Hall:We need support. We I don't think we can do it on our own. I don't think we're meant to do it on our own. You know? I see you doing this beautifully.
Rachael Hall:You call in your support system. It's like, okay. I go to the spa. I do a Rachel class. You know, whatever it is, I have acupuncture, but it's like we all need our team.
Rachael Hall:We we I don't know. I guess it's this whole thing about being a superhuman, But actually, no. I think we just need the support and then and then the magic can come through us.
Relinde Moors:Yeah. And to receive that support. I had a conversation, this morning with somebody who was discovering in our conversation that she couldn't allow support anymore. It's like I don't I when I go into it in a somatic level and I feel into it, my body just says, but can I trust it? Will it be there and then be gone?
Relinde Moors:Like but to have this as an entrepreneur, to have this capability of really receiving support and also having that somatic feeling of safety and, I think, in the body is just is really needed. It feels I think we're gonna burn out. We can't do it without that. So I love that you bring that up. Can I can I direct you one more time to the womb?
Relinde Moors:Because I Yes. I feel there's something else there.
Rachael Hall:Yeah.
Relinde Moors:What do you see for women? As I think most mostly women will be listening here. What is it that we that is hidden in that place? Because you and I did some work with that and I found it very emotional and very beautiful. I'm diving into it with you now again in the wise womb course and I am wondering if there's anything that you can say that you feel is there that we are not always connecting with.
Rachael Hall:Just take a moment with this. I mean, the first thing that feels like it's coming up is is our cycles for for women that still have a menstrual cycle. Yeah. That's the first thing because I think for my whole life, I felt like my cycle has been an absolute inconvenience. You know, I didn't see it as something I could learn from or work with, especially as a dancer, you know, having a bleed every month.
Rachael Hall:I mean, that's very inconvenient. Yeah. So if if we're trying to live this life from the outside, when you have these things going on inside you, it is very inconvenient and that could be womb related, but but it could be anything. It could be anxiety or perimenopausal symptoms. When you have things going on inside you, it's inconvenient because you can't keep up with the pace of life on the outside.
Rachael Hall:So that feels like it's the first thing for me is can we live life more from the inside, from from our cycles? You know, looking at even if it is our menstrual cycle, if you or if you don't have a menstrual cycle, perhaps looking at the the lunar cycle. And just it's beautiful to see that we have a monthly cycle either with the moon or with our menstrual cycle. And there are times where hormones are growing, growing, growing, and we ovulate, and we lit literally, apparently, the geometry of our face changes. And apparently, we're more beautiful when we're ovulating because we're, you know, trying to attract a spouse.
Rachael Hall:And then and then you have that time of, you know, 10 days before your period and then you go in you go in you go in you go in and you start to perhaps crave a little bit more sugar and carbs and instead of thinking, oh, gosh. I've just eaten that bit of chocolate. It's like, now I know myself. I'm doing this because this is I need to be carb not carb loading as such, but I need to be eating more carbs because I need more progesterone. Just just knowing ourselves more and dropping into those cycles and not feeling shame about them and somehow seeing them as a superpower in a way.
Rachael Hall:I mean, I know that that still feels a bit farfetched for me to say that as a superpower, but in a way it is. It is a direct connection to nature and to nature's cycles. I was looking out before the podcast today. It looks very wintery here even though it's June. It's very wintery in the UK.
Rachael Hall:But I was just in that moment, I was so in awe of mother nature's cycles. We're supposed to be in summer but, you know, just to see how abundant she is in this moment. And then actually in 6 months time, we're gonna be in winter and there won't be even one leaf on the tree. It's just so incredible. Isn't it?
Rachael Hall:And I love how she doesn't change her cycles for anyone. I know this is debatable with you know with climate change and things shifting but her cycles have been very predictable. You know And even if we're like, well, I booked my wedding for this day, and if she wants to rain, she'll rain. And I don't know, maybe, well, not maybe. I really feel like there's something to learn from that.
Rachael Hall:If it's like, you know what? I am bleeding. I don't wanna go out. I'm not gonna go out. I'm just gonna cancel.
Rachael Hall:It might be inconvenient, but I'm just going to cancel. So this feels like, yeah, that that first thing of just can we have a paradigm shift where we start to listen to ourselves more and whether that is the menstrual cycle or not? Maybe it's just for some reason I am exhausted. Even though I'm supposed to be ovulating, I'm exhaust just can we listen to ourselves and not see that as an inconvenience, but see that as absolute innate wisdom coming from us.
Relinde Moors:Oh, I love this so much because when you lean yeah. It's very literal literally the signs of the body, that we have learned to override, as you started saying, this overriding, which actually creates a lot of disconnection, it creates tension, and it creates, you know, maybe burnout or just stress or even I feel saying yes to the wrong things and saying yes to the right things can be with because you are in touch with your body. And the cycles for women, of course, are one of the most important things that we learn from our whenever they start happening, to override and just push through and just not be that. Yeah. Beautiful.
Relinde Moors:I
Rachael Hall:feel like the other thing that is coming through is our wombs really feel like a portal of creation. And I'm not just talking creation of human life, and, of course, they are a portal of creation of human life. But something that's been really coming up for me this year is that we are all children of of nature. We're just in this current evolution of a human body. So how I mean, I was looking at my we've got a little wildflower garden in our garden.
Rachael Hall:How have you grown so quickly? Like, you're so beautiful, and some of the flowers are so tall and so magnificent. It's such a wonder, isn't it, just to think 3 weeks ago I'm sure you weren't there. You know, and that is how amazing. That's how the wild flowers grow and this is how nature grows.
Rachael Hall:And we are an evolution of nature. We are just in a human body and it feels like the things that come through us are are the things that come through us are nature growing and evolving and expressing themselves and itself. This is something that's been really coming up for me. So of course we could create a human life in our womb and that would grow. But it also feels like the energy of the womb is just this very conscious creation.
Rachael Hall:That it doesn't have to be a human life, but anything that you birth, you know, a a project, a piece of art, a book, a friendship, an insight, a podcast. And can we can we do this more, I mean, potentially from womb space, but it could be from your heart space. It could be from your lungs. But knowing that we have these consciousnesses in our body for you know for me the the heart has a similar consciousness to the womb but the heart for me feels that I get actually about rhythms. They're both about cycles, aren't they?
Rachael Hall:But the heart and the womb and that that blood flow through both. But for example, the lungs would feel more about inspiration and then also letting go and processing grief. So inspiration I receive and I release. So if you wanted to produce something that was inspired you know I I want to tap into my innate inspiration. For me I would say go to your lungs.
Rachael Hall:If you wanted to feel more grounded or to produce something that was from this really grounded rooted nature, go to your feet. Get to know your feet. Feel your feet on the earth. Imagine the roots coming out. And then the womb again has this different consciousness.
Rachael Hall:I think at the moment and for many many years there has been an imbalance with masculine and feminine. The divine masculine and divine feminine. And women's voices have been squashed. They haven't been magnified. I know this is changing, and which is great, but I feel like it actually needs to potentially change faster and for women to really fully step into their power and into their deep inner knowing, which goes against the grain.
Rachael Hall:Because often when women stand up, they they're bossy. You know, they they come up against all of this negativity when women stand up. You're you're supposed to be quiet and feminine and beautiful and easy, you know, easygoing, which is what I felt like I conformed with for so many years. Oh no. I'm fine.
Rachael Hall:Whatever. I'm fine with everything. But it's like I'm not really actually like I've I've just convinced myself that I'm fine with everything. So I think you know on this level of the divine masculine doesn't have this womb. The the womb feels like it's the home of the divine feminine.
Rachael Hall:And it's been shrouded in shame, and it's been made really inconvenient, and it hasn't really been explored, and it hasn't been explored with wonder with wonder and curiosity. And I feel like I'm at the beginning of my journey of this. I feel like I'm at the beginning of my journey with this. And I just feel like there is so much in there. The womb, it gets a new lining every month and then it sheds.
Rachael Hall:It gets a new lining and then it sheds. And the womb or the uterus has the capacity to expand to 500 times its original size if there were a baby growing inside. But even the energetics of that I can hold this. I can hold this vision. I can hold this business offering.
Rachael Hall:I can hold this and then I can birth it. So I feel like, you know, on many levels the divine feminine and also really listening to that wisdom of of what the womb does every month. I feel like I'm just at the the surface of it, but there's so much there for me and for all of us. And that's why I'm really excited to be exploring.
Relinde Moors:Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Okay.
Relinde Moors:This is so powerful. I noticed when you speak, there's a question that came up for me which I don't know if we can put it in words. But when you speak and you also for those that are listening and not seeing
Rachael Hall:the feeling,
Relinde Moors:taking a moment or putting your hand there, connecting with the lung or with the womb. And I know I mean, I've done a lot of somatic work, and I know what it is to have a feeling sense of a body part and of the womb and of the kidneys and the lungs and organs, maybe not all organs. But I also know that until I did have that lived experience, it sounded like just with as a word. So I would maybe imagine to connect with it or think about connecting with it, but I didn't really know how to do that. Is there anything that you can guide us, say give people clue that feel maybe that way?
Relinde Moors:It's like, I hear you say connect with the room, but what is that experience and what does that create how do you create that?
Rachael Hall:Yeah. I think that can definitely be quite tricky. So probably what I would start with is connecting with something that is easier to connect with. Something like, you know, your upper trapezius, put your hand on the upper trapezius, the muscle between your your head and your shoulder, massage it. How does it feel?
Rachael Hall:So just listen to it first of all. Gosh. I feel really really tight. Well, I've listened to the message. How would you like to feel?
Rachael Hall:Squeeze, you know, you can circle the shoulder and just imagine how your shoulder how you'd like your shoulder to feel. Maybe it's fluid. Maybe it's soft. Maybe it's spongy. Spend a little bit of time with it.
Rachael Hall:So this is one of the Franklin method processes. And then when you finish, you could perhaps even brush down over your shoulder. And then rest your arms and just give your this was super speedy, but you get the idea. And just taking a moment to notice, how does that feel? And that is already connecting with that body part.
Rachael Hall:So I think I probably would start with the things that are easier. So can I sponge my upper trapezius? Could I massage my jaw? What else would I do? I often do a lot of I think the breath work is really helpful too, because I think as soon as you release your diaphragm, wow, I feel so free.
Rachael Hall:You know, I've got so much oxygen coming into my body. So I would start with the easier things because I think I think the womb does feel tricky. And in all honesty, for me, it still feels of course, I can feel when I've massaged my trapezius. I can feel when I've massaged my feet immediate effect. And the womb it's a totally different thing because I can't feel it as such.
Rachael Hall:It does feel like a more energetic dropping in. And we've explored this even with the pelvic floor, which I know that it's musculature. That can be really tricky to feel too. That can take people a long time. And even with the pelvic floor now, I definitely feel that I'm contracting it.
Rachael Hall:But sometimes it's just I just have to image it. I have to imagine it and trust that that's enough. You know, I'm not totally sure that I'm working it, but I know that the science says if you imagine something enough, you're building more neural pathways and connections. And then I feel the difference afterwards. I feel, oh, I feel my posture feels different.
Rachael Hall:My shoulders are more relaxed. I have less incidence of prolapse symptoms. So I don't know if that's answered it very clearly but I think my guidance would be start with things that are easy to connect with and then you're then you've got the trust, haven't you? Like, well, I I know that I have connected with my body, so now I'm just gonna explore dropping a bit deeper. The all of the organs are like this.
Rachael Hall:The liver can be, you know, the same, the stomach, the digestive system. I think they have Yeah. We don't feel them in the same way that we feel our muscles. So it's just that layer deeper of of embodiment. And perhaps it comes a little a little bit with more with more time, I would say.
Relinde Moors:Yeah. Absolutely. I'm I'm what I I'm sorry, what what I hear you say is it's a dialogue. It's listening to it, and what does it need? Like, how is it now?
Relinde Moors:It's it's rather than just, yeah, imagining it. But I I yeah. Beautiful. I think that people who are curious definitely need to find you. We follow you.
Rachael Hall:We've used, the hot water bottle before, haven't we, in the past? You know, that can be a nice thing, just getting your not too hot, but hot water bottle, just placing that on your lower pelvis so that you've got some feedback. That can be a nice place to start actually if you're not, I have absolutely no idea. But but actually if you do get menstrual cramps that would perhaps be a time you can feel your womb then, so, you know, we do have an experience of that womb. It might be from cramps but that time.
Rachael Hall:I often feel that I get lots of it's a very introspective time when we have our period and we're bleeding, and if I'm journaling around that time there's lots of insights that come through because I feel like I'm so in. You know, I'm not distracted by everything else. So, yeah, perhaps that could be another answer, using some heat and also doing it on the time that you can actually feel your womb when you feel that she is shedding.
Relinde Moors:And I loved by the way, also what you said just now. So if when you do that, for example, you listen to, hey, I have this inwards movement basically in because I'm bleeding, like, my my belly hurts, I have cramps. Instead of taking painkillers, overriding, disconnecting from it, pushing through, you would completely miss that moment. So I'm hearing, like, that is one of those specific ways, but you're saying all the ways of connecting to the body, which then can give you very clear guidance of what wants to come through you in this moment. Right?
Rachael Hall:I think nature is so intelligent that it why it would have overridden the the pain and it would have, you know, evolution is, it can be relatively fast with certain things. So it feels like there has to be a message in this. Otherwise, surely, we would have there would have been something that had changed with the brain to womb connection that we wouldn't feel it anymore unless we needed to feel it. You know, I'm just I'm curious about I think it's our body saying please please listen to me. You know, I've I've really got some wisdom for you.
Rachael Hall:Please take the time. And also what you said about you will miss it otherwise. I don't know if you've had this. I'm sure you have, but just certain times in your life where you think, oh, I could ignore this and I could just distract myself. But actually if I allow myself to dive into this heartbreak or into this difficult moment, there is so much that you can learn from it.
Rachael Hall:But equally you can miss it. If you think no no no no no I'm just gonna do this and distract myself and move on to the next moment. Probably that lesson will come around again. But actually if you can Yeah. I don't know if it's being
Relinde Moors:brave with what is. To be it's really ex
Rachael Hall:yeah. Just be with what is.
Relinde Moors:Sorry. Being brave you said. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Relinde Moors:Accepting what is instead of like wanting it to be something else and forcing it. Yeah.
Rachael Hall:I, just before we jumped on, I picked a cart and I picked one for myself and I picked one for the podcast. Can I read it? Because I think there might be Yes.
Relinde Moors:Please do.
Rachael Hall:Okay. So it's my dear friend, Lena Potter, gave me these cards. And I had my eye on them, and I thought, oh, I can't buy anything else. I've been buying too many books lately, but she happened to buy them for me, which was lovely. And these oracle cards are called the sacred cycles.
Rachael Hall:So this one is for all of us listening, anyone listening. It's called the wild one. I claim my full expression. The wild one is uninhibited, unencumbered, and weightless without the judgments and expectations of others anchoring her down. The chains that bind fall away and freedom is fully expressed.
Rachael Hall:Truth is the guiding star here, and it permeates every inch, moment, and action. With this internal compass, forward motion is propelled by a desire for authenticity and determination to claim what is most true and real. In a world that encourages sameness, for safety, at the expense of individuality, This is your sacred call to cast aside that narrative. Do so for the sake of your soul's path. The wild one asks you to choose freedom.
Rachael Hall:A freedom found in being forthright with declaring who you are in the highest expression of yourself. Deep down, you may have this feeling that something has stayed locked inside you out of concern for what others may think. Or say, should they find out about it. You have the key. You have the courage.
Rachael Hall:You have the inner knowing of the ways your life will bloom and expand when this part of you is set free. So unlock the cage, release the chains, and welcome all of yourself to this experience of life. And there's a journal prompt. What do I need to release in order to fully embrace my truest self? And I thought that was lovely.
Rachael Hall:Wow.
Relinde Moors:Yeah. Just That's so beautiful.
Rachael Hall:Just yeah. This letting go of the sameness and the safety and having that bravery to drop into our into our rhythms and into our souls path and into what feels true for us. And I feel like that's where the most authentic business happens and the most authentic relationships happen.
Relinde Moors:Yeah. Wow. And by accessing more of the body, we actually know what that is.
Rachael Hall:Mhmm. Because our body is
Relinde Moors:structured by what we think. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.
Rachael Hall:Yeah. Our body is nature. I mean, I know with I I don't feel like I could I I don't know if I could do an interesting podcast from my head. You know, some people can, can't they? Some people hold so much information and facts and knowledge and interesting things in their head.
Rachael Hall:That's not me. All I can do is just tap into my body and respond to to what's happening in the moment. And for me, that's that's where the magic
Relinde Moors:Yeah. For me, I think that's where anything grabs my attention. When I think of, art or performances, that's the dancer you see on stage that is there, like, in the moment, that is real. And I think it's the same when we're doing this thing called business. It's all the time being, like, what is true in this moment?
Relinde Moors:And Daring, I think your card said it really nice, also to let go of what isn't and then bringing forth what is. Rachel, I could talk to you for hours. I literally want to continue. I'm I do want, you to tell people that are listening where they can find you. I see that you have a free pelvic floor class that we can link to this episode.
Relinde Moors:Is there anything else you wanna share where they can find you and maybe take some classes with you? Because, I mean, who wouldn't want that?
Rachael Hall:Yes. So I have a few programs. And a free offering that I have at the moment is 2 free pelvic floor classes. They're recorded classes, but that would be a nice way to tap into some of my work if anybody is interested. And I think Relyns is gonna share the link.
Rachael Hall:But also I have a beautiful membership called Aligned, which Relyn is also a member of, and we do various live classes throughout the week, but then we also have a gorgeous app with over 300 workouts on there. And they are workouts, but they're very much embodied workouts. So all of them you can expect to come away with feeling, oh gosh, I I've released my back. I've released my neck. I've toned my core and I feel so deeply relaxed and so deeply me.
Rachael Hall:I feel like we really weave all of those aspects into them. So maybe Me too. You could share the link for that as well, and you can sign up for that one anytime. It's a rolling monthly membership. And it's it's lovely.
Rachael Hall:It's such a it's a really lovely resource. Something that I know we're wrapping up, but something just to spring off of what you said is this thing we call business. Yeah. This thing we call business. It's just can it really be a true expression of us?
Rachael Hall:Can it be nature coming through us? Can it have its own cycles and own rhythms? And you are at the center of that. I am at the center of my business. So if I am frazzled, I for me, I know that I don't do the job that I'm sent here to do.
Rachael Hall:And I feel like for for anyone in business, you know, if we can see that we are at the center of it, if we can call in our tribe and truly look after ourselves and be able to be in deep dialogue with our body and our gifts, I feel like that's a game changer.
Relinde Moors:Wow. I love that. Yeah. Absolutely. And to yeah.
Relinde Moors:That's what I get from you and also what I got, for example, again, after the retreat or from this conversation. That's the first thing. You know, we can't ignore the the body and then but later, I will get to it. But today, I just have to know first this and first this connection. Rachel, I want to thank you so much.
Relinde Moors:This has been so enlightening and beautiful and amazing. Is there anything else that I haven't asked you that you wanted to share or that you wanna say before we're ending this podcast? No.
Rachael Hall:I think it's everything. It's been an absolute pleasure. Thank you so much. It's, it's just really a joy to come on and and to speak with you. And I think, especially a podcast, it really distills what you do, doesn't it?
Rachael Hall:It's a real pleasure for me as well, to come on and and be supported in articulating what it is that I offer. Because like you said earlier, sometimes it's what is it? What is it that I do? And it's and I think that's probably what I meant from earlier on. I love how you see what I do, and it resonates with you.
Rachael Hall:And, you know, that means such a lot to me. So it's it's real pleasure and an honor that you've invited me on today. So thank you.
Relinde Moors:Amazing. Thank you so much. You're welcome. Thank you for joining us today on the choosing ease podcast. Remember to subscribe so you never miss an opportunity to connect.
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