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Lockie
Oh.
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Lockie
All righty. We are live and recording here in the studio again. Thank you, everyone, for joining in. This is the big one. This is the big one. And you can episode 28 of the unfunded podcast. I'm Locklin Jones, professional triathlete with good friend Light and Wall.
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Lleyton
Also professional triathlete.
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Lockie
And, we are proudly brought to you by official beer. Proud sponsors of the podcast. Keeping the lights running in the show. Continuing on. So thank you very much to them. There's probably going to be a few of them following in the coming weeks with, you know, the championship wrapping up.
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Lleyton
Yeah, it's all on the line, isn't it? So how many weeks? It's next week. So when this comes out to be starting in about three days after that. Yeah, for four days, I believe.
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Lockie
Yeah. So obviously what we're talking about Wollongong world championships, the, the race of the season where everyone comes together. You know, we're not just watching the elites here. We're watching the under 20 threes of watching the juniors and watching the age group is watching the power.
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Lleyton
Triathletes pay 110. They see everything standing. Wollongong, which is pretty cool. And it's in Australia. Even better. Yeah.
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Lockie
So we're we're super pumped. We're super excited. This is like like I said, this is obviously the weekend that you look forward to. You know, it's the the corner.
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Lleyton
Of course. It's just about to say that. Yeah.
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Lockie
It's so exciting. And like you said, you said it. Being in Australia adds an element of excitement. We've got, you know, Aussies in very good positions right now, obviously, Maddie Hauser and Luke Wiley and currently first and sixth in the series. So, yeah, honestly, this is, it's so exciting.
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Lleyton
Yeah, it's the weekend and you can feel it, especially here on the Gold Coast. You have all of the other nations coming in now, and they're kind of basing in the Gold Coast for a week or two before, and yeah, you can feel the excitement.
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Lockie
Yeah.
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Lleyton
Even though we aren't racing,
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Lockie
Even regardless, I think just being fans of the sport, you know, it's.
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Lleyton
Pretty cool just to have it.
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Lockie
Here. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. I mean, we've even got our, we've even got our media guy in the corner. I know he said before he really didn't want us to, to to mention him, but, Falco's over there. Just getting some media for us in the in the lead up to world champs. So, Yeah, it's all happening, and we can't wait to kick it off.
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Lleyton
Cool. A little bit of, What's going on? Yeah. We'll start. Oh, how is your weekend now? As we always do. You go on. Yeah.
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Lockie
It was, Yeah. Yeah, I had a little race. Oh, yeah.
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Lleyton
The weekend was,
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Lockie
Blew it out. Yeah, it was a little, little prep, just helping some of the junior boys. And I did 20 threes. Get, get ready for, for worlds. Austria have, they put on a little, little race, just down a Ribena, a long range parkway. Just, I guess to have, a bit more racing experience.
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Lockie
In some of the, the younger athletes, like, so they don't have to, you know, go over to Europe, go over to Asia. So, yeah, I jumped in, jumped in, on that race, and, I wasn't feeling great myself, but I made it. Just went around. It did my job. Really? So, that was fun. We got some.
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Lockie
We got some serious talent. Yeah, we got, like, it was good to say some of those boys that are racing, and girls as well, like, Tara Torres is in ski and Rochelle just was so dominant. So I'll, we'll speak about them later. But yeah some of the athletes that are racing for Australia are they're definitely ready.
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Lleyton
That's good. That's good to.
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Lockie
Hear. It's exciting. It's exciting. What did you get up to?
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Lleyton
I didn't race. Went to the races.
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Lockie
The horse race.
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Lleyton
Yeah. The horse races. Yeah. That were on the Gold Coast and never been before, but. And didn't pick any winners. So I went that was my weekend.
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Lockie
Only money lost. Yeah, yeah. Rent's due now. And.
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Lleyton
Yeah that's great. Yeah. Sweating. Come on. You should be. It was, it was the money.
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Lockie
You kick it up. You picking up the empty cans. The.
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Lleyton
Yeah yeah.
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Lockie
Yeah yeah. Taking them in. That was good. And, some some exciting news. We do have, the unfunded team. We will be up in Noosa. I know that's still about three weeks away. Four weeks away, but the unfunded team will be on the ground, will be covering. It'll be our first, we plan it to be our first sort of live coverage of the event.
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Lockie
Obviously, anybody who knows anything about Noosa, it is just, such a heritage race here in Australia. We've, we've had, you know, people set up careers off the back of winning Noosa. So we really want to get down there. Obviously it's only a three hour drive from, from our house.
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Lleyton
So yeah it's pretty convenient. What is a good time for us as well.
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Lockie
And only two hours. Sorry. Two weeks after, world champs. Yeah. We haven't made an official start list yet.
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Lleyton
But we do have a lot of, both distances. So the middle and the short coast guys coming together. I think it'll be a good weekend. And obviously there's a massive. Like. It's the massive triathlon festival. Yeah. For Australia,
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Lockie
In the world. So I think it's still the biggest festival.
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Lleyton
So it goes on for a few days. So we'll be there doing a bit of stuff yet to confirm what we're doing, but we'll, we'll be on ground if.
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Lockie
Anybody wants to say, hey, if anybody's got any ideas for for, you know, what we should do, who we should speak to. If you want us to get involved in any way, if you if you're an athlete up there, let us know. We'd love to, we'd love to sort of create, a cool, yeah.
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Lleyton
Atmosphere. Yeah. Add to it.
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Lockie
We'd love to add to it. Help, help out in what way we can with our little, with our little fan base we've got. So, it's like a bit further ado.
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Lleyton
Oh. Oh, no. Yep. There's Kona this weekend, so we did.
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Lockie
We did jump the gun a little bit last week, with the Kona predictions. Lighten, lighten, got excited.
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Lleyton
They got.
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Lockie
Excited. Yeah. He did we did get excited with kind of being back, but yeah, it is this weekend. So, if you want to go hear our predictions.
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Lleyton
Go listen to last week's podcast. We did a little we did a recap and whatever, it's coming off. So yeah, we'll stay into just the short course this week. Yeah. And let's get into it. Why not? Yeah.
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Lockie
Well, we don't want to muck around this week. There is so much to cover. And like we said, there's just so many athletes. There's so many races going on. So we want to make sure that we really do a deep dive and and do do, home world champs justice. Yeah. And 100% really give our thoughts, give our opinions, predictions on what's going to happen.
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Lockie
How the race is going to unfold. You have you been to the.
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Lleyton
Rain, to Wollongong? I may have raced there as, like, a junior doing, like, kind of a state series race, but it's not the same course. Yeah. Okay. I know you've been there with the World Cup two years ago or last year.
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Lockie
It was last year. So, obviously, again, this is the 2025 World Triathlon Championships Grand Final. So for those that don't know how this is essentially, the last race of the World Triathlon Championships series, so I believe there was, let's say, seven races in the series.
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Lleyton
Yeah, yeah, seven races of the series. The top three go towards your points in the finals also counted. And then also we have our junior and 23 champs.
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Lockie
Yeah. So yeah, the juniors in the under 20 threes. They obviously don't have a series to crown a world champion. They crowned a world champion of the one race. So that it's like like we said, it's a it's a big weekend. All the age groups come on as well. And, there's a lot of hype around that.
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Lockie
To the, there's just seems to be the right time in Australia to be hosting a world championships where we've seen the boom, like we've spoken about it a lot. We've seen the boom, in the age group is saying just as much as the elite.
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Lleyton
It seems as if every man, that dog who can go to Wollongong is going to Wollongong.
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Lockie
Yeah, yeah, we've been saying a lot past, past professional athletes. You got Matt Roberts. Yeah. You know, I mean he raced.
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Lleyton
World.
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Lockie
Series. Yeah. He might laugh about it and say he was he was nothing because he's just he's a modest guy. But he was racing World Series and was one of the best in the world. Yeah. At one point. So you got guys coming out of retirement income and race and age group just a lot of the atmosphere.
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Lockie
So, yeah, we'll I'll do my best to give a bit of a preview. Of course. Preview. Having raced, the World Cup last year. So, it is in the harbor. So they start off, they start off basically walking down the rock shelf into the, into the harbor, into the cove. So I remember last year when we kind of walked down, down the stairs onto the beach.
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Lockie
It is almost like being in a bit of an arena. I remember seeing photos, obviously, you kind of looking out into the into the, harbor where the first cane is just past the wall, and, sand photos back at us on the start line and just, the fans that were wrapped around that.
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Lleyton
Shelter, around it.
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Lockie
Was almost sheltered around, around the back of us. And it was when I saw a photo. So that was so cool. It was an Australian Championships at the time, so there was a lot of people there. I can only imagine how many people are going to be there on that Sunday to watch the elite men and women. So yeah, that's going to be that's going to be super exciting.
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Lockie
But actually you start on the beach, run out. It's probably going to be pretty calm in the, in the water. It'll be like a 2 to 3 step dive before they start swimming. And yeah, for the first, for majority of the swim, it will be pretty, pretty calm and sheltered with the, the, rock walls blocking the wind.
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Lockie
But yeah, I think they saw it. We saw it last year when we raced and some of the Aussies saw it as they did a bit of a preview camp there two weeks ago, where as soon as you get past that rock wall, the swell really does start to pick up a little bit. So it's it's only for about 150m, 200m that you actually are amongst that swell.
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Lockie
But that's going to, that's going to shake some people up, I believe, like some of the Europeans who aren't used to.
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Lleyton
Yeah, that landlocked countries, landlocked.
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Lockie
Countries that aren't used to the swell. And you know, again, like Australia has that stereotype of what's scary. Sharks waves, killer animals that like, you know, you'll die out. There's, there will be some athletes that I know. It sounds silly, maybe to some Aussies, but when you're not used to it, you know, used to an environment like that, it can be quite daunting.
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Lleyton
Yeah. Especially if you're out to sea. You know, all the sharks and whatever you think about when you're out there.
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Lockie
Exactly. So, yeah, they essentially swim around the sea, around those, however many 2 or 3 cans that are out the back, and then swim back in through the rock wall, back to the beach and then do a second lap. When I did it at sprint distance. But yeah, it'll be it'll be a two lap for, for an Olympic distance.
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Lockie
And then essentially run back up onto the bike. And I for me, I think, I think where the races are going to be, I think there's, there's, there's some key points in the race and I think the transition up into the first, maybe 1 to 2km, the bike is going to be a serious make or break if you're a Henry Graff.
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Lockie
Matt Howes, Miguel Hidalgo Vasco, who's most likely going to be in the front pack, same with same with like, a Beth Porter, Cassandra Bogan, you know, who are very good swimmers. Yeah. And they want to establish a bit of a breakaway. You're going to want to really hit this transition in the first part of the bike.
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Lleyton
Is it a long transition out of the swim to the,
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Lockie
Relatively not not not, you know, we've definitely say longer, like, way highs. Obviously we saw last week that was an incredibly long run. It's not that actually. It's probably relatively short compared to some others. But, athletes are all looking for a breakaway, are going to really show need to show some intent in that first I'd say two kilometers of the black, get on the black and wait.
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Lockie
When we race again, I'm just going off. Previously when when I was there, we were really aggressive in that first two K of the black because you jump on the black, you basically ride down maybe 2 or 300m and you turn left and you go up, Wollongong.
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Lleyton
Headland. Are you up to the lighthouse?
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Lockie
Yeah. So you go up around the lighthouse, which is essentially a few hundred meters of just climbing, and you're doing that within the first 500m of getting out of the swim onto the back to the bike, and you're straight into a client, and up the passage. Exactly. And up the top of the lighthouse area. It is, very exposed.
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Lockie
So again, we saw it last year when the weather wasn't too great. The winds were really high. And I remember, for example, I'm sorry to throw you under the bus here, but Oscar Dot, he was probably only about 5 to 10m off the back of the front pack, and he's more than capable of being a front pack athlete, but almost didn't, didn't have that, I guess, urgency to really drive himself onto the back end because he didn't the the wind kind of blew him around a little bit.
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Lockie
And because we were so aggressive, sort of up and over the crest of the hill, we just rode away from him and he lost.
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Lleyton
I feel as if in Wollongong it's, you know, the south coast of Australia has that windy, bad weather reputation. I think if it's bad weather, it's going to make for a better race to be honest, it's kind of split up more, but I think just that wind factor and I think it's going to happen more than what people think.
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Lleyton
Yeah, Wollongong is just a windy place, like the times that I've been that it's always been windy or wet.
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Lockie
It's and I think.
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Lleyton
For all not great. No, it's not the Gold Coast. It's all nice and sunny.
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Lockie
Yeah, yeah. And like we lot we've seen this year and we've commented on it many times. The breakaways back. Yeah. So people that are aggressive and people that are you know we've got an Emma Jeffcoat that's back. She's racing in the elite women's field. Yeah. Athletes like that are going to take advantage of that. So I think I think we'll definitely see, that aggressive nature, especially in the first couple laps using that, headland, headland exposed, area.
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Lockie
So it's.
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Lleyton
A very technical or pretty straightforward.
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Lockie
Pretty straightforward, I wouldn't say like it's very aggressive. Turns out they're not very sharp turns. I know there's a part of the course that we did last year that they've taken out. And they were quite aggressive turns, but they've taken that section and, they essentially ride down the hill and ride further into the city. Okay. Than what we did last year.
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Lockie
So that's, that's the key difference. So they've probably taken out the more aggressive, aggressive turns and just kept more of a strength, aspect.
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Lleyton
Of the a bit of undulating and then the run that pretty bit the same.
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Lockie
Pretty straight forward. So yeah, the run I believe they go back over the hill as well. So, yeah, essentially the same is the strength.
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Lleyton
Of course, it is.
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Lockie
A very much a strength horse. So, I think athletes will say in the course that they'll know what they're in for. They'll look at the elevation profiles and they'll have a good understanding. But yeah, it's, it's not going to be a boring course. Like, that's that's for sure. It's not going to be Abu Dhabi. It's not going to be your way.
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Lockie
Highs. Whereas I mean way I was still a little bit undulating, but it's not going to be.
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Lleyton
Not on highway on the, on the M1. Going for it. Yeah. Back to.
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Lockie
Sydney. It's a it's a really cool spectacle though I think. I think they've done well putting it up around the, the lighthouse and again, like.
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Lleyton
The features of Wollongong.
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Lockie
Yeah, yeah. And like I said, when we were racing last year, the crowd really got around it. And because it's.
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Lleyton
It's a sporting town, Wollongong. But blue collar still works. Yeah, yeah, it's a good town to have a sporting event in. Yeah.
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Lockie
They got their like, they've got that basketball stadium. I think that we've all had possible school stadium. They've even got obviously like
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Lleyton
The footy side, the.
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Lockie
Footy. Yeah. The Saint George.
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Lleyton
Dragon.
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Lockie
Dragons. So yeah it's like you said, it's a sporting, it's a sporting town. So, yeah, it's going to be super exciting. And I think we've obviously got our people that we were cheering for. It's going to be our Aussie home base. So yeah. Yeah. We can't wait to say see all our guys ripping.
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Lleyton
So let's just get into the the gender of the weekend. We'll just start going from the juniors up until the late. Yeah, we start with the junior male men. The Aussie is rising. We have Zan spies, Oscar Wooten and Ollie Moxon. So they're our three that we had. We also have to give a shout out to, Jack Caldwell and Jack, Woodbury.
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Lleyton
Those two guys, we said that a couple weeks ago. Unfortunately, they injured. They would have been key players in this, race way thinking, well.
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Lockie
They're probably like our one and two athlete. I mean, I know Zanzibar has got the automatic, automatic spot over Jack Woodbury, but we, you know, just saying what Jack wood has been able to do this season. He's got a European Jack Conti win. Yeah. So his name. So we know the pedigree of of both Jack's and again I was actually speaking to Jack Wells coach on the weekend James Sweeney and we bought we both had the same opinion as, as each other.
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Lockie
And they're juniors. They're young men. Yeah. Their careers are far from over.
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Lleyton
Exactly.
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Lockie
So, yeah, it's an unfortunate plenty of time, but, yeah, they got plenty.
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Lleyton
But, two very good often come is coming through though. Oscar Wootten and Ollie Moxon. Yeah. So that they'll feel their shoes pretty well.
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Lockie
Yeah. Good on those boys.
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Lleyton
So we've done a bit of research into the ones to watch. Within the junior men, obviously juniors, it's a lot harder to find who's coming off where they're from. We obviously have a finger on the pulse in Australia. We see them racing, but over in Europe it's a bit harder for us to say so we've done a bit of research and there's actually a fair few contenders have won some, Euro Junior Cups this year.
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Lleyton
Yeah. And a lot of them are French. The French have a really strong team. Right.
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Lockie
They always they they just they know how to produce athletes from Italy.
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Lleyton
Yeah. I mean really.
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Lockie
Really good talent. We saw it in, we even saw it in the Rome world Cup last week. Like that. Like the left over guys that they have racing Wollongong are still some of the best guys in the world. You put them on a World Series start. Listen, they're still phenomenal.
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Lleyton
So I think that's due to the GP kind of system that they have. And they just.
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Lockie
It's on live and.
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Lleyton
Breathe it. So the his Chile Chile basin. Sorry, these are French names. He came third at the world champs in 2024. So he's already junior world champ, junior world champs.
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Lockie
Yeah he's I think I know who you talking about there. And yeah he he's a he's a born and bred right. Yeah I think he's done a couple potentially been on a podium of a couple world champs as well. So he's yeah. Yeah he's definitely he's definitely going to.
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Lleyton
Want to watch.
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Lockie
I feel like any French he's going to be one.
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Lleyton
Yeah. So there's two of a French. He's Martin Huebner. He won another Euro Cup in Karol.
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Lockie
Yeah that's the Italian one.
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Lleyton
Yeah. Yeah. And then we have Tristan. Do he won in Holton as well.
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Lockie
And that's a and that's a tough that's a tough ourselves like Holden's all Holden's got a bit of a name for itself over in Europe. So to win that very very strong French team that
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Lleyton
And then we have a American. Obviously we had the hype of race venison as a, American junior, but Isaac Lampert, he's got €2 podiums this year. So I think those, those four boys are in some form, especially in Europe, where you probably say the most difficult racing. Yeah. So I think those guys will be the ones to watch, especially those French guys.
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Lleyton
Like, they're going to swim and ride pretty hard, and they look as if they can all run pretty well.
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Lockie
And we've seen racing in the past, the, the French athletes and especially European teams to come. Like it's easy for them obviously to go to a European world champs, but they're only sending you if you're a very good if you're a podium chance. So because coming to Australia is such a long way to travel for those European countries, and most of the time the national federation will pay for you to, to be over here.
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Lockie
So they're not they're not sending you unless you, you know, you're a good chance to do something for the, for the nation. So I think, yeah, any athlete that's really from Europe, you're, you're, you're in fine form and you're going to be fighting for a podium.
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Lleyton
Yeah. Exactly. How do you think the junior men will go?
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Lockie
I think.
00;19;20;26 - 00;19;23;22
Lleyton
How how will it break down?
00;19;23;24 - 00;19;47;18
Lockie
It's tough because it's it's juniors. It's juniors. And like you said before, you could have a guy that's ranked 50th win this race. Because the Aussies are always going to have high rankings because of our Oceania points. Points score. So Aussies and Kiwis are always going to have high ranking. Same with the Americans. But yeah, it's I struggle to see any, breakaways.
00;19;47;18 - 00;19;51;11
Lockie
I do believe it. This the junior races tend to come down to a run race.
00;19;51;13 - 00;19;51;20
Lleyton
Come.
00;19;51;20 - 00;20;09;13
Lockie
Together the maturity of, the athletes just aren't there yet. And it's. No one's not. It's no one's fault. It's just that they're young. They don't. They don't really understand racing dynamics. They haven't race maturity to the athletes that they're going to be in the future. So, look, I swam Oscar Wooten was in the, race on the weekend.
00;20;09;13 - 00;20;28;26
Lockie
And, you know, he was pushing me in the swim. And I like to think that that's one of my stronger, stronger legs. So you're going to have guys that will try, and hopefully with the Aussie crowd in the background, you know, that might spur Oscar and that might spur whoever else all he's also a great swimmer. So, that could spur a bit of a breakaway on.
00;20;28;26 - 00;20;43;02
Lockie
But I do believe that most junior race is just going to come down together. Yeah. So it's going to be and if that is the case then Zorn's boys, he's. Yeah he's a very good chance. Very good runner. So Zan could be our best, best athlete here. Yeah, but again, it's a.
00;20;43;02 - 00;20;44;29
Lleyton
Tough one on it. Could go anyway.
00;20;45;02 - 00;20;45;13
Lockie
Yeah.
00;20;45;20 - 00;21;00;06
Lleyton
We'll go on to the junior women. The Aussies where you have Aspen Anderson. We've talked about her all year. She won everything in Australia. Anderson hole slip. She won two. And then secondly in Holton. So she's proved herself in Europe this year, which is pretty cool.
00;21;00;06 - 00;21;01;08
Lockie
And she's 16. Yeah.
00;21;01;11 - 00;21;02;07
Lleyton
That's crazy.
00;21;02;07 - 00;21;03;03
Lockie
Crazy.
00;21;03;05 - 00;21;06;27
Lleyton
Claire speaking to another one, she was pretty dominant in the Aussie season.
00;21;06;27 - 00;21;10;02
Lockie
And I think she's also fairly new to the sport. Yeah. Which is I think she's.
00;21;10;08 - 00;21;11;16
Lleyton
Maybe talent transfer.
00;21;11;16 - 00;21;12;25
Lockie
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00;21;12;27 - 00;21;17;20
Lleyton
And then we have a reserve that's, got a slot and it's either hen.
00;21;17;21 - 00;21;19;02
Lockie
Val. Yeah.
00;21;19;04 - 00;21;23;12
Lleyton
That's pretty cool from WA. So she's got a Western Australian out there representing Australia.
00;21;23;14 - 00;21;46;25
Lockie
And like we said, the, the Europeans realistically only send over especially at the junior category at junior age group. Only send over an athlete if they really think they're going to do something. So it's a long way to travel. So it is it is a very good, I guess, case for us to put forward as many athletes as we can in the reserve side, because it's more than likely a chance that they're going to get picked up and put on the on start list.
00;21;46;25 - 00;21;47;04
Lockie
Yeah, yeah.
00;21;47;04 - 00;21;52;19
Lleyton
It's good. It's great that, the Aussies getting the opportunity, even if you were picked as a reserve. Yeah, you're.
00;21;52;19 - 00;21;53;19
Lockie
Still jumping on the side.
00;21;53;24 - 00;21;54;13
Lleyton
100%.
00;21;54;18 - 00;22;01;14
Lockie
What's, what's the harm of getting an, an 18, a 17, 18 year old on the shortlist to get a bit of experience level?
00;22;01;17 - 00;22;15;25
Lleyton
So ones to watch again for the women again, very hard. But we do have the defending world champ and a Grasset from France. These Frenchies are going to be pretty good. She won the 2024 Junior world champ.
00;22;15;26 - 00;22;20;08
Lockie
Yeah, I think her and Fanny Salles had a sprint finish. Yeah, and Chinese also ran.
00;22;20;09 - 00;22;26;23
Lleyton
Yeah. Runner up. She also won in Wells. So Fanny Zelaya's, she's from Hungary.
00;22;26;23 - 00;22;41;20
Lockie
She's obviously a very well know. She's been racing on the super try circuit as well. So she, she's had a lot of experience not just racing in the junior women but also racing in the elite as well. So that's going to be exciting to see those two match up. And yeah, I mean also go against our Aspen Anderson.
00;22;41;26 - 00;23;08;13
Lleyton
And then we also have third at the 2024 World Champs. So we have the top three. Well from the world champs coming back this year in Wollongong. And that is Lee who. Art. Sorry. That's butchered. But yeah she had a winning bleed. I think that was maybe last year. And then we also have, Swiss athlete Anouk Denner.
00;23;08;19 - 00;23;13;09
Lleyton
She's won three Junior Euros cups this year. So she's on form as well.
00;23;13;09 - 00;23;16;07
Lockie
Yeah. Very, form if you win in three of those, that's that's very impressive.
00;23;16;07 - 00;23;20;22
Lleyton
So that's actually going to be a really, really good race in that junior women to have.
00;23;20;22 - 00;23;38;28
Lockie
Those four and then like you would probably say like to have Addy, Addy who's sleeping there who won TS one like second and Holton that that's two impressive results from her. And like we said, we speak about Aspen Anderson all the time to like the run pedigree on her. And she's been away at altitude in America training the last couple of months.
00;23;38;28 - 00;23;40;12
Lleyton
Race Super League last weekend.
00;23;40;12 - 00;23;50;29
Lockie
Yeah, yeah. So between those five and like we said, there's probably going to be girls that we missed. That's a very exciting I'm I'm actually almost more excited for that than the junior men's because. Yeah. Have you.
00;23;50;29 - 00;23;55;14
Lleyton
Got three of the whole podium from last year's come back to Australia and race.
00;23;55;19 - 00;23;59;12
Lockie
Against our two, against our two Aussie superstars that we've got like.
00;23;59;12 - 00;24;07;16
Lleyton
That's, that's pretty much the whole sweep of the European you know circuit this year. Yeah. Racing which is pretty cool.
00;24;07;18 - 00;24;18;18
Lockie
I get like yeah. Again it's tough to see it not come down to a run. Even more so in the women, I think, the women can be sometimes a little bit more tentative, on the bike.
00;24;18;21 - 00;24;19;07
Lleyton
On the bike.
00;24;19;07 - 00;24;41;00
Lockie
Yeah. Especially if, like we said, race day, it's windy. It's a bit hilly. You know, like, the girls might not be as aggressive, as some of the guys. So especially when they're, you know, we got an an Audi who's sleep, who's 16 years old, like, it's the they're a little bit, like premature in their athlete, in their racing ability.
00;24;41;00 - 00;24;41;24
Lockie
Yeah.
00;24;41;26 - 00;24;45;08
Lleyton
I guess confidence in what they're good at and sticking to their guns. Yeah.
00;24;45;08 - 00;24;47;21
Lockie
And she knows she's a phenomenal runner. So it's like, why don't.
00;24;47;23 - 00;24;50;09
Lleyton
Don't get dragged into something else. And her I want to be.
00;24;50;12 - 00;24;57;22
Lockie
Her support team's going to say that to her. Her support team's going to know that like you're you're winning. You're winning leg is the run. So just if you're in a front pack.
00;24;57;22 - 00;24;58;09
Lleyton
Just sitting.
00;24;58;09 - 00;25;03;26
Lockie
There, sit in and wait for the run. But then yeah, you've got literally we're looking at five girls that can do the exact.
00;25;03;26 - 00;25;06;09
Lleyton
Same thing and who have done it on the world stage.
00;25;06;11 - 00;25;08;18
Lockie
Yeah. Wow. That's going really, really cool.
00;25;08;18 - 00;25;30;22
Lleyton
That's pretty cool lining up there. Yeah. The under 23 men. And now that this I think is probably the most stacked of the world champs like in the age category. Yeah. The under 23 men will start with the Aussies. We have Braden Mercer who's come second at Napier World Cup Brad cause he had a string of, Asian Cup wins.
00;25;30;25 - 00;25;34;29
Lleyton
Toby Powers, Logan Campbell and Rory Thornhill also all on start this.
00;25;35;00 - 00;25;39;16
Lockie
Awesome again to get a full five. Yeah. Like that's a that's a win in itself. I think it has.
00;25;39;16 - 00;25;46;19
Lleyton
To be done for like development into your senior years. Like why wouldn't you take more people at the home world Champs?
00;25;46;19 - 00;26;02;05
Lockie
Yeah I'm like, this sort of stuff is just exposure at this point. It's it's get the feeling of you might go and get your ass warped. But like, that's a lesson in itself right there. Yeah. I think all of these things racing at this level, it's it's valuable experience. And again.
00;26;02;06 - 00;26;04;03
Lleyton
They've all raced pretty well this year as well.
00;26;04;03 - 00;26;06;26
Lockie
So yeah, they deserve it.
00;26;06;28 - 00;26;08;15
Lleyton
And know our people.
00;26;08;15 - 00;26;28;18
Lockie
Yeah I think I think our, our guy we definitely want to give you know obviously he's, he's not Aussie, but, he's a friend of, of both of us as a two halves. And that's Michael gar. He's British and Italian champion. He's got just an incredible swimming round on him. We've both, had the privilege of, training with Big Gary and,
00;26;28;20 - 00;26;46;09
Lockie
Yeah, you know, me and him have definitely. I probably butted heads a little bit in training before, and I'll openly admit that he's a pain in the ass to train with, but, there's there's really not someone that, I'd rather I would rather see do well on, on this race this weekend. He just loves the sport.
00;26;46;09 - 00;26;58;25
Lockie
He really does just love triathlon. So, if I'm not cheering for the Aussies, I'm cheering for, I'm cheer for big Michael gar. And, I do think that he is, serious talent. You see him doing something very, very impressive.
00;26;58;25 - 00;27;11;09
Lleyton
I just I don't think he's raced a World Cup this year. No, but you just see how he swims and how he can run. I feel as if that's just so impressive. And the way he's cleaned off an Italian champs and the British champs.
00;27;11;11 - 00;27;31;08
Lockie
He's a new athlete to what he was last year. And obviously speaking from, like a training partner, he and I and I think being from Cardiff, Cardiff usually their squad and how they pick their racing seasons, they, they played a bit they played a bit cautious. You don't want to jump into a race that you might not be experience enough for ready for.
00;27;31;08 - 00;27;50;11
Lockie
So I know that those guys, like Michael. God, probably he's very much ready to have race a World Cup, but just might not have found the right one to race yet. By the time, like, I think he's very much biding his time. And I know his coach would be thinking the same. This guy is going to be a talent, regardless of if he, yeah, tries to go out and win World Cups this year or next year.
00;27;50;12 - 00;27;55;26
Lleyton
He did race that, the elite relay championships. And then the bit of inexperience.
00;27;55;26 - 00;27;56;06
Lockie
Really.
00;27;56;06 - 00;27;57;00
Lleyton
Well and did really well.
00;27;57;00 - 00;28;08;19
Lockie
I think he, I think he was tagged in fourth and I think held on fourth. So yeah. And at that point you're racing literally the best guys in the world. That's the World Series. So yeah. Michael God, he's going to be our underdog. Take him.
00;28;08;21 - 00;28;17;14
Lleyton
Especially with not any big massive world triathlon, like, you know, results. It's not like a World Cup win for some of these guys.
00;28;17;14 - 00;28;18;23
Lockie
Have people out looking for. Yeah.
00;28;18;23 - 00;28;29;21
Lleyton
I feel as if he's, Yeah. A bit of a donkey in this one. He's. Yeah, we we know him as being very good, especially like in those couple of domestic races. So he's one he's won them quite convincingly.
00;28;29;21 - 00;28;46;14
Lockie
And just trying with him saying like if people saw some of the run sessions that that guy's done, I've too I've seen him run a, a ten by one K session on the track where his slowest one K was like 255 and he built from there. So it's yeah, the run the run on this guy is going to be something to watch out for another Brit.
00;28;46;14 - 00;28;58;21
Lleyton
And I feel as if he's coming to form right at this back end of the season. He's peaking well Oliver Conway he came fourth. WTS Calvary, which we said was probably our peak of that day.
00;28;58;23 - 00;29;19;26
Lockie
He was phenomenal like that. Like when you say on a tough course. Yeah. Coming in at the right time, like I've again, we've heard about him before based just being in the British system and hearing waves and hearing noise of this Conway kid coming up. It's like, yeah, he was really good, junior, but I believe he was only, somewhere between sixth and 10th and junior world champs last year.
00;29;19;26 - 00;29;28;07
Lockie
So not like he was setting the world on fire. He's come out this year and he's just just found the right recipe to be a good athlete. Yeah.
00;29;28;07 - 00;29;30;19
Lleyton
And these runs. That's crazy.
00;29;30;19 - 00;29;44;08
Lockie
If you also look at some of the training sessions that that Conway does, he's I've seen stuff on his Strava where he's out the door to do, you know, whatever run said he's doing and his very first K's 340 pace.
00;29;44;10 - 00;29;45;28
Lleyton
Like he just goes out and.
00;29;45;28 - 00;30;07;24
Lockie
It's like they said there's some sessions off saying 2324 K's averaging three 3330 pace. And it's not like he's just done an incredible session in the middle 80s. Warm up is about three 4350 and his mindsets about three minute pace. And then he's warmed NS back to three days. So it's like it's I mean, my old man muscles need a little bit more warming up to do before I stand still.
00;30;07;24 - 00;30;09;07
Lleyton
Yeah. He's he's still very young.
00;30;09;07 - 00;30;10;12
Lockie
Yeah, yeah.
00;30;10;14 - 00;30;29;05
Lleyton
He also won in, Sadiya, the Moroccan World Cup, which is pretty impressive. And then we have race. Vincent. You can't can't forget him. He won in Chengdu. We all know what he's kind of done. Massive hive is a junior. Did he win his junior world champs? I, I don't, so, who is the P?
00;30;29;08 - 00;30;32;29
Lockie
I'm standing. I'm starting to wonder if he might have won in, Hamburg.
00;30;33;01 - 00;30;34;28
Lleyton
Oh, maybe I can't remember.
00;30;34;29 - 00;30;36;25
Lockie
I can't remember, though. He might have won in Hamburg.
00;30;36;29 - 00;30;43;16
Lleyton
Anyway, he's he's been on form with a first place at Chengdu, which was, Yeah, a kind of. And it was a run really for him.
00;30;43;16 - 00;31;01;15
Lockie
Yeah. That was a runner. I assume when you look at the people that were on that start line, like you had some serious French, French contingent, the, Brendan Cope. Yeah. Brandon Copeland, he was third in that, such as to give the Israeli. So. Yeah. Yeah, that was a red hot run race. And that was his first Olympic distance race.
00;31;01;15 - 00;31;15;18
Lockie
Yeah. So for him to go see, he's a he's a born and bred runner. Yeah. So he's going to if it does come down to a run race where it might and it might not, the under 20 threes is where the boys start to mature a little bit. And they figure out how to race and they, they play their strengths.
00;31;15;18 - 00;31;25;07
Lleyton
Then we have Martin Cove the Hungarian second at some weekend world champ World Cup. So that's another World Cup podium. He's a fish and.
00;31;25;10 - 00;31;33;06
Lockie
He, he's quite literally a mark of a coming up. Yeah. When we talk about the, the Hungarians, there's something in the water where they could.
00;31;33;08 - 00;31;34;15
Lleyton
Yeah, they know how to swim.
00;31;34;15 - 00;31;49;01
Lockie
All of them can swim at the moment. Like like there's honestly five, six guys that you can pick that are like Euro front pack swimmers in the World Series right now and crop countries. I don't know if you watch that one in Samarkand, but he was in the front early and just.
00;31;49;06 - 00;31;51;10
Lleyton
Yeah, that's where they stayed away. Didn't that. Yeah.
00;31;51;12 - 00;32;11;16
Lockie
Yeah they did. It was and Marcus Day, who is a fish in himself like he was sitting second, I believe, on his feet. And, I remember hearing something he said about. And he said it was one of the hardest things I've ever done. Well, just trying to see it on his face. Marcus days, I think, led the series first Super League as the leading summer.
00;32;11;19 - 00;32;23;19
Lockie
Okay, so a very good swimmer in his own right and struggled to sit on Koepka's feet. So if you go to an athlete like that going in there with a, you've also got a guy who would, you said and Brian Mercer, Brian Mercer is a phenomenal.
00;32;23;21 - 00;32;33;12
Lleyton
And then obviously, another pick is Matthias Paul. He came third at summer camp, which was a breakaway as well. So he can obviously swim.
00;32;33;14 - 00;32;35;27
Lockie
The Canadian, I believe he might have run into that position.
00;32;35;27 - 00;32;36;13
Lleyton
Oh. Did he?
00;32;36;15 - 00;32;56;27
Lockie
Hey, if it's the Canadian, then I'm thinking that he's run into that position because he's not a phenomenal swimmer. He's not a phenomenal swimmer, but he 100% can run okay. He he's he's going to add to that Ollie Conway race vanishes in sort of that group. So we're going to we're going to have a series that we know Toby Powers can Ron Logan can we can very much Ron Roy Thornhill can run, Brad Coles can run.
00;32;56;27 - 00;33;11;08
Lockie
So we've got an Aussie group of, you know, definite runners. And like we just said, Ollie Conway, Reese venison, Matthias Buell. Like they are some phenomenal runners too. But then you've also got your crop to Conway. Sorry guys. Yeah. And a bright Mercer. Like.
00;33;11;13 - 00;33;15;01
Lleyton
Could go either way. This depends on the bike. Really? Yeah, I think so.
00;33;15;02 - 00;33;29;03
Lockie
Sometimes. Sometimes these races will break up into about three, three distinct packs. Yeah. You might have a pack of 15 and up the road, and it's all. These boys are strong. Yeah. Oh, these boys will be strong. So that's going to be an interesting one.
00;33;29;05 - 00;33;31;17
Lleyton
Cool. Onto the on 23 women.
00;33;31;17 - 00;33;48;29
Lockie
Yeah. This is this is exciting one. We got we got only two girls in this one. So obviously it's a bit different to the other races we've had, we've, you know, we've essentially had a full stack of five. We've got Rachelle Hill and Tarzan Ski. And I think from the start, these two girls are always going to get picked that they've raced.
00;33;49;01 - 00;34;05;19
Lockie
Rochelle raced on the 23 world champs last year. Tarzan skis raced and on 23 world champs. And I think her first year she race it in Pontevedra. Yep. She's also raced, you know, world championships in the past. So, these girls have definitely, the right to be a part of this team. And.
00;34;05;21 - 00;34;09;02
Lleyton
Yeah, they're our standout too, 23 at the moment for sure.
00;34;09;02 - 00;34;29;22
Lockie
And the two that, leading up into, you know, becoming dominant, elite women and both star in her show, like I said at the start, that Australian triathlon practice race over the weekend, both of those girls actually raced, in that and looked so strong, like I had finished my race. And watching them, Tara had a lead out of the water.
00;34;29;24 - 00;34;51;21
Lockie
Rochelle was second, maybe 15 20s behind. And, yeah, Rochelle is a powerhouse in the black, both of them powerhouses in the black. But Rochelle also bridged up. I think they both got caught in the end by a 15,000 pack. Yeah. And then after they got caught from being off the front, they then ran away with A's and then they both went toe to toe.
00;34;51;21 - 00;34;54;12
Lockie
It was, it was really cool with a K to go though. Although it was.
00;34;54;12 - 00;34;56;22
Lleyton
It was it only three seconds between them.
00;34;56;24 - 00;35;14;17
Lockie
Yeah. Yeah. So when I saw it it was funny because when I saw him at the turnaround point, tire had about a maybe 3 or 4 second lead. And then in the end I heard Rochelle beater. So they, they went all the way to the line. Yeah. So that's good. Really good showing from then too. And just shows that they are very much, in fine form coming into this world champs.
00;35;14;19 - 00;35;28;07
Lleyton
It's also another very dominant, under 23 female world champs. Like we have number one from last year and number two coming back. So we can you say these names? I'm sick of butchering our European names. Yeah.
00;35;28;07 - 00;35;39;27
Lockie
So we got, we got Karolina a a Helga. Harris. Yep. She, Yep. Like you just said, she was 20, 24 and the 23 world champ. But she hasn't race since, though.
00;35;39;28 - 00;35;52;05
Lleyton
So I looked at her world triathlon and she hasn't race, which is a bit weird. Obviously we haven't followed the other 23 women, like, you know, like we usually do or like we follow other races off.
00;35;52;05 - 00;35;53;27
Lockie
Because like we've.
00;35;53;29 - 00;35;54;21
Lleyton
Been injured.
00;35;54;21 - 00;36;10;23
Lockie
Or they don't have. So on the 23 is the only time the binging on the 23 really counts is on the 23 world champs. Yeah. They don't have any other event in the calendar, which is specifically this is a 9 to 23 event. You race the athletes. So this is the only time the under 20 threes is separated from the elite.
00;36;10;23 - 00;36;23;20
Lockie
So yeah it's it's tricky. But you again you can't knock the defending world champion. Yeah. So we're going to put her in there. And then you got Suzanna Michelle a Cova 2024 runner up.
00;36;23;22 - 00;36;26;11
Lleyton
So one to that coming.
00;36;26;11 - 00;36;30;29
Lockie
Back and just just like the men, just like the, the was it the junior men?
00;36;31;01 - 00;36;36;10
Lleyton
Junior women? The junior women. So both women's fields have the defending world champs, which.
00;36;36;10 - 00;36;45;17
Lockie
Again, is surprising. And like I said before, they're not going to send people if you're not in fine form. So, they're going to be exciting. And we've also got, Maria Casale.
00;36;45;19 - 00;36;46;11
Lleyton
Magenta.
00;36;46;11 - 00;36;47;01
Lockie
Magica.
00;36;47;04 - 00;36;50;09
Lleyton
Yeah. She's the 2021 Junior world champ. Yeah.
00;36;50;12 - 00;36;59;10
Lockie
So clearly just got natural talent there. Yeah. And yeah, we'll say if she's, able to hold on to that form that she showed back in 2021.
00;36;59;13 - 00;37;00;07
Lleyton
Cool.
00;37;00;09 - 00;37;01;23
Lockie
Alrighty. We under the big one? Yep.
00;37;01;23 - 00;37;04;07
Lleyton
Let's get into it. We'll start with the late man.
00;37;04;10 - 00;37;18;05
Lockie
There's obviously a little bit more to this one. Because it is points based on like we were just talking with the juniors and on the 20 threes they are very much, it's a one race, one race near the champion. So whoever wins on the day wins.
00;37;18;08 - 00;37;24;06
Lleyton
What do you prefer? Do you prefer a one race champion or a series champion, save for the late time talking.
00;37;24;06 - 00;37;47;04
Lockie
I would normally I would say a one race champion. Yeah. However, looking now that we've done a deep dive into the series, because I would be a little bit disappointed if, say, you know, these boys have done the majority of the races all year being so dominant. You can have a Hayden Wild who he could do not it not do any of the races.
00;37;47;04 - 00;37;47;26
Lleyton
And then come back.
00;37;48;00 - 00;37;54;09
Lockie
In Wollongong win and he's a world champion. I would I'd be a little bit like upset. Yeah. I think I'd be a little bit disappointed.
00;37;54;12 - 00;37;56;18
Lleyton
It shows that you have been the best all year.
00;37;56;19 - 00;38;12;25
Lockie
Yeah, yeah. And look, we already have. We already have, won one race day event, which is the Olympics and Commonwealth Games and European Games and stuff like that. But I think if there's one point where let's have a World Series because it matches the criteria of, like, other sports.
00;38;12;25 - 00;38;15;03
Lleyton
Yeah, yeah. You know, like a tournament, isn't it?
00;38;15;03 - 00;38;28;01
Lockie
To make it into the AFL or NRL grand final, you got to be in that top eight. You've got to have a good season all season long, not just one day. Yeah. Obviously it comes down to just being one day, but you still have to make the top eight. You have to go through the final process and then you've got to win on that one day.
00;38;28;01 - 00;38;33;20
Lockie
So, I'm going to go with I'm going to go with the series. I think a, a series is better. Do you believe this?
00;38;33;21 - 00;38;42;10
Lleyton
Yeah, I agree now like I used to think, oh, maybe a one day world champ. But I think this series is good to show that you're dominant all year round.
00;38;42;12 - 00;39;02;28
Lockie
All right. It's a the late men. It's like we said it's definitely in for both of these races. It's definitely not. It's far from over going into the final. So like like light and said before with the with the races in the series it is your best three races in the series combined with your, grand final result, which is, double points.
00;39;03;00 - 00;39;07;10
Lockie
The grand final is double points. And like we said, both of these races could.
00;39;07;12 - 00;39;14;08
Lleyton
Could go either way. And these nail biting races, I mean, everyone's coming over for it. I mean, why wouldn't you and.
00;39;14;15 - 00;39;32;02
Lockie
The, Aussie men would just go to the Aussie maintain first go. Matty has all Brendan Copeland, Lukey Willett and Kyle McCloskey. Just the four boys that have been repping us all year. Yeah, they've been pretty good all year and some of them have had, PBA results. So it's good. I know cam McCloskey has had some PBA results this year.
00;39;32;04 - 00;39;48;29
Lockie
We just want to we just got I want to give a quick shout out to Luke Wilson, who I've spoken with, spoken with Balko about this before as well. He's definitely an athlete that's going under the radar a bit this year. Because we've obviously there's so much the attention has been on Matty Houser and rightly so.
00;39;48;29 - 00;39;55;17
Lockie
Like he's got three wins to his name. Luke Wilson is currently sitting in sixth place overall in the World Series.
00;39;55;17 - 00;40;00;27
Lleyton
She's really impressive. What did he end up last year? Around the same around six.
00;40;00;27 - 00;40;08;10
Lockie
Sixth place. Yeah, he was sixth. So he has it. He has the chance this year to to enter that better that 100%. Which is also the.
00;40;08;10 - 00;40;13;04
Lleyton
Top five for Australia which was written off about two, three years ago.
00;40;13;04 - 00;40;14;13
Lockie
Yeah. We were done.
00;40;14;13 - 00;40;15;05
Lleyton
Pretty cool. Yeah.
00;40;15;06 - 00;40;30;08
Lockie
Really. So, now this is cool. And I really like saying this for Luke off the back of, you know, he obviously didn't race too well in Paris last year. He might not go back into too well. There was a couple question marks maybe over the head of like did he did he just.
00;40;30;14 - 00;40;32;03
Lleyton
Pull out once I think, yeah.
00;40;32;03 - 00;40;36;13
Lockie
And he's proven now that he hasn't just gone and done one. Freaky. He is just a freak athlete.
00;40;36;14 - 00;40;41;23
Lleyton
He's one he's come forth. He's probably been the most unlucky guy on the World Series this year to not get the podium.
00;40;41;23 - 00;40;43;10
Lockie
Yeah. Yeah. And and two.
00;40;43;10 - 00;40;44;20
Lleyton
Fourth and I think maybe a.
00;40;44;20 - 00;40;53;02
Lockie
Sixth you never know like Luke Wilson knows this course. He won it in the World Cup last year. So if you're going for an underdog this guy knows the course. He's race the course. He's a strong.
00;40;53;02 - 00;40;53;15
Lleyton
Athlete.
00;40;53;15 - 00;40;55;13
Lockie
He's strong.
00;40;55;16 - 00;40;56;25
Lleyton
So into the points.
00;40;56;26 - 00;41;09;06
Lockie
Points. We've got Matty Hauser currently on a perfect score of 3000 points. All right. So all he needs to do to win the series is finish in the top three. Matty has it. Gets a podium on next week.
00;41;09;07 - 00;41;10;00
Lleyton
Easier said than.
00;41;10;00 - 00;41;22;07
Lockie
Done. Easier said than done when you're racing the World Series grand final, all pressure on like that's hard. But honestly going off, going off what he's done this year and how he is as an athlete, and I think.
00;41;22;13 - 00;41;25;03
Lleyton
I feel as if he is the favorite. I think it was step up.
00;41;25;03 - 00;41;29;17
Lockie
I think he'll step up. I think who get it done and the, he'll he'll end the drought.
00;41;29;17 - 00;41;36;23
Lleyton
It'd be crazy if, I would love to be Will and Gong when he finishes first. Especially not doing that. That would just be crazy.
00;41;36;23 - 00;41;41;11
Lockie
Like to top it off, if he. If he finishes the World Series with a win win.
00;41;41;11 - 00;41;41;20
Lleyton
Yeah.
00;41;41;22 - 00;41;43;26
Lockie
Away from winning the series.
00;41;43;28 - 00;41;45;21
Lleyton
If that's the only way he can do it.
00;41;45;21 - 00;41;49;29
Lockie
Oh like that would be a win though. I can just imagine, it makes me want to be.
00;41;49;29 - 00;41;53;17
Lleyton
The champagne chalice.
00;41;53;19 - 00;41;55;13
Lleyton
Someone get us a ticket down. Honestly.
00;41;55;13 - 00;42;21;28
Lockie
Geez, who's always booking athletes? Miguel Hidalgo, 2,780.63 points. Don't know how he's got .63, but, so for him, him in, Vasco Villas as a Vasco villas as 2775 points. So five points, 5.6 only points. So essentially they both need the same thing to happen. So they both need to win in Wollongong. And for House of to finish fourth or lower.
00;42;22;02 - 00;42;22;13
Lleyton
Yeah.
00;42;22;17 - 00;42;24;00
Lockie
Which is still.
00;42;24;02 - 00;42;26;01
Lleyton
Like a race between them two as well.
00;42;26;01 - 00;42;33;17
Lockie
It honestly is a race between them two. So they obviously they need to beat each other and then they need to have that to finish fourth or lower. So which.
00;42;33;20 - 00;42;34;14
Lleyton
Oh.
00;42;34;17 - 00;42;41;04
Lockie
It could happen. It's still could happen. But we just saw has a come sick. Sixth. It was the sixth, seventh.
00;42;41;06 - 00;42;42;29
Lleyton
Yeah. Sixth, seventh or eighth. Yeah.
00;42;42;29 - 00;42;53;22
Lockie
In calamari he was, he was like I thanks. We got our meeting. Go see this. Why we need him to come to more houses. Just finished eighth. So, it's. Yeah.
00;42;53;22 - 00;42;54;23
Lleyton
Scary. Scary.
00;42;54;24 - 00;43;04;24
Lockie
It's a it's a possibility. And Miguel Hidalgo got second in that race, so, obviously we're just giving way. Just giving the, the point score. The point scoring.
00;43;04;29 - 00;43;05;23
Lleyton
What could happen.
00;43;05;23 - 00;43;13;23
Lockie
Simplified examples. There's so many different examples of and we could have sat here for, you know, two hours and going through every single scenario.
00;43;13;24 - 00;43;14;02
Lleyton
Yeah.
00;43;14;03 - 00;43;32;20
Lockie
But this is this is it. So Miguel Hidalgo, Vasco Villas, I need to win in Wollongong and has to finish fourth or lower. Yeah. And then we got Henri graph. Henri graph needs to one win in Wollongong. Yep. He needs the housing to finish sixth or lower. And he needs Hidalgo and Vasco to finish off the podium.
00;43;32;23 - 00;43;38;16
Lockie
That is a bit tricky because I don't see I don't see these. I don't see the three boys not being on the podium.
00;43;38;16 - 00;43;41;20
Lleyton
Yeah. There's got to be one of those top three on the podium. I mean, I can't.
00;43;41;23 - 00;43;50;13
Lockie
How do you go. Yeah yeah I can't I'm sorry. Who's not like I haven't seen the full style, but unless, like a Leo, unless of the French just come.
00;43;50;15 - 00;43;51;09
Lleyton
I can't see it.
00;43;51;10 - 00;43;58;00
Lockie
It's a near impossible scenario, but. But it's essentially us saying that there is a possibility that Henry Graff finishes on the podium.
00;43;58;04 - 00;44;20;17
Lleyton
I think he definitely can say I've got housing now for the world champion. I just I think he's going to win it. I think Henry Graff on his form, I think maybe he's doing a bit now, but because you can't hold that peak for so long and I think he's going to be dipping now. But I think Henry Graff, due to the strength of the course, I think he's going to come second and knock off one of these boys.
00;44;20;20 - 00;44;25;09
Lleyton
And for the podium, actually in Wollongong, I think Luke Williams will rise. Yeah.
00;44;25;11 - 00;44;27;28
Lockie
Yeah. It's so they your picks.
00;44;27;28 - 00;44;36;06
Lleyton
Yeah, they're my picks. I've just has a has. Henry Graff Luke Williams. Unfortunately Luke can't make the the podium of the worlds.
00;44;36;06 - 00;44;36;26
Lockie
Yeah, yeah.
00;44;36;26 - 00;44;38;00
Lleyton
So even though he's sixth.
00;44;38;00 - 00;44;54;21
Lockie
I believe it. I believe if we looked at the points and even if all of these boys ahead of him. Crash out and. And if he still can't. Yeah. Win the World Series. Which is okay. We can still get a top five in there. Yeah. Look, if I'm going to go pick my. Now, I'm.
00;44;54;23 - 00;45;06;18
Lockie
I'm going to go. Matty. How's that? He's going to win it. And I picked the to win the series at the start of the year. So I'm going to I'm going to back him all the way. I'm going to go Maddie Howes and then I'm going to go Miguel Hidalgo. He just even on these like undulating, tough courses.
00;45;06;18 - 00;45;28;18
Lockie
We saw him in Karlovy Vary where he got second and had a very incredibly fast run. He can swim right and run. So I think he's in a coming second. And I'm going to go Luke willing third. Okay, then I'm gonna go Luke willing to take picks. Yeah, yeah, I want to go to Henry Graff. But I just think Hauser Hauser and William are just going to rise, and Hidalgo is just too strong, so they might pick.
00;45;28;20 - 00;45;34;23
Lockie
It's so exciting, though. That is that is such a looking at it visually. It's anything can happen.
00;45;34;24 - 00;45;48;01
Lleyton
Even more exciting and closer is the late women. This is all tied up in first place Hugo. The Aussies deserve it. All these, Sophie Lane and Emma Jeffcoat. Yeah, a home world champs. I think Emma Jeffcoat will do.
00;45;48;01 - 00;46;05;20
Lockie
She should do some fuckery on that swimming ball I like. I think am is that kind of athlete. And we've heard her say before like she just loves a hard saw race. And this is a hardstyle course. Like we said, the undulating hills, the windy conditions, the chop and the swim. Yeah. And Emma's going to really go out there.
00;46;05;20 - 00;46;10;23
Lleyton
And I think it was split up like all of the women's races have this year. It's just been break away.
00;46;10;23 - 00;46;32;20
Lockie
And Emma might want, you know, a bit of a bit of justice after the Calabar race. That's a her course. It's a swim bike pedigree course. So yeah I think both of those and Sophie's a phenomenal runner so I don't know. She's unfortunately battled injuries and illness in the last few years. So Sophie is one of those athletes that on her day probably could, could play something.
00;46;32;21 - 00;46;43;14
Lockie
Yeah. So the athletes for the win in the World Series, we got like you said, we got Cassandra, Bo Grant and Beth Potter tied on 2925 points.
00;46;43;14 - 00;46;48;19
Lleyton
So whoever wins between them, as long as they're in the top three, they win.
00;46;48;19 - 00;46;49;23
Lockie
Yeah.
00;46;49;25 - 00;46;51;04
Lleyton
That's cool.
00;46;51;06 - 00;46;53;12
Lockie
Like I that's cool. And I can it doesn't.
00;46;53;12 - 00;46;58;02
Lleyton
Matter who kind of beats them. If they're in the top three, they just have to be in the.
00;46;58;02 - 00;47;02;08
Lockie
Top three and I can just visualize it so clearly them two off the front.
00;47;02;08 - 00;47;03;08
Lleyton
Yeah. And the sprint finish.
00;47;03;08 - 00;47;23;00
Lockie
In a sprint finish of whoever wins this down just a bit. Yeah yeah. And like it was them two in Julie Deron in in Paris last year. And obviously Julie's not going to be here this weekend. There's plenty of others. You got John le Heron, Lisa Tosh Perry, all all of them. Very well. Could be there on the run, but I can I can just picture.
00;47;23;01 - 00;47;24;17
Lleyton
Those two of their front running.
00;47;24;21 - 00;47;38;05
Lockie
And it's been it's been these two for a while. Like we've seen these two are the dominant two for quite a long time. We've had people you know, there's like we said the other three, they have come in and challenged him a bit. But for the last few years it's been Cassandra and Beth.
00;47;38;05 - 00;47;40;10
Lleyton
Potter that runs just on a different level.
00;47;40;11 - 00;47;54;25
Lockie
Yes, sir. Yeah. So we go and then John Le Heron, she's currently in third, 2,716.445 points. So she needs to win in Wollongong. And she needs Beth Porter, and Cassandra Bergeron to finish fourth or lower.
00;47;54;26 - 00;48;03;14
Lleyton
Which could happen. See, I also feel if those two aren't running down the chute together, Cassandra by Grant has crashed out.
00;48;03;16 - 00;48;21;21
Lockie
And that's not that happy example right there. Like we just said, with the with the course and the conditions like it might startle a Cassandra Bergeron who's been known to not have the best bike handling skills. So if it is wet windy on the day, again, we don't know. But if it is wet and windy, you could have an example like that.
00;48;21;21 - 00;48;24;27
Lleyton
Yeah, it's it's also yeah.
00;48;25;02 - 00;48;46;01
Lockie
So lazy Tosh and looney Perry out there. Not on the exact same but there there's a very small points difference. So 2636 points to Leoni Perry olds 2587. So both of these girls, need the same, outcomes. They both need to win in Wollongong and they need, Cassandra Bogan Beth Porter to finish fifth or lower.
00;48;46;03 - 00;48;58;28
Lockie
And Leoni, sorry, John le here to finish third or lower. All right, so both of those girls, they might have very slightly different but they and again that could happen like with again it's.
00;48;59;01 - 00;48;59;22
Lleyton
It's like.
00;48;59;24 - 00;49;04;06
Lockie
It's Henry Graff all over again. It's unlikely but it's possible.
00;49;04;06 - 00;49;17;23
Lleyton
It is possible. Yeah. It's it's more like Vasco and, Hidalgo. So they kind of need to beat each other, but have the same thing. So it's a right. There's a few different races between all of or within every race.
00;49;17;24 - 00;49;24;13
Lockie
And I remember school, I remember seeing and I hope they bring the graphic back, especially for us, that we'll be watching it on live. Live.
00;49;24;13 - 00;49;25;26
Lleyton
Yeah. Who's the current leader?
00;49;25;26 - 00;49;41;00
Lockie
Yeah, I remember they had like a graphic on the side. I think they also had it in Abu Dhabi maybe in 2022, where it was essentially like, obviously when they go through the timing maths, they know the exact position of the athletes in that in that current time. And then with that, they they had the point, the like.
00;49;41;00 - 00;49;42;12
Lleyton
Who is scoring. Well yeah.
00;49;42;12 - 00;49;53;09
Lockie
Yeah. Yeah. So if it was to be in this exact coming out of the water, if this was the exact finishing order, then this is what the World Series order would be like if they had something like that. That would be really cool.
00;49;53;10 - 00;49;54;07
Lleyton
I think they will.
00;49;54;07 - 00;49;58;01
Lockie
Surely, I hope so. It was. It's a cool graphic. It's really cool graphic.
00;49;58;04 - 00;49;59;29
Lleyton
It's a lot of, nerdery.
00;49;59;29 - 00;50;04;19
Lockie
Yeah. I mean, I mean, we obviously are like, that's we love this sport. So.
00;50;04;22 - 00;50;05;16
Lleyton
Who's your pick?
00;50;05;16 - 00;50;06;22
Lockie
Lucky I'm going to be.
00;50;06;22 - 00;50;07;18
Lleyton
The world champion.
00;50;07;18 - 00;50;23;08
Lockie
Cassandra Burger is going to be the world champion. Okay, I think I was it's tough because the conditions are going to play a role for her. But it's a Cassandra Burger and you can't you can't go past the the current world champion and the current Olympic champion. You just got not a year after.
00;50;23;10 - 00;50;25;28
Lleyton
I think I picked her for the world world title this.
00;50;25;28 - 00;50;44;06
Lockie
Year as well. You can't not. Yeah. Not. So I'm going to go her and then I think John Le here, I think she's going to come out and do something. Okay. I, I don't know how it's going to shake up the points, overall positioning, but I think, I think head is going to come in second and I'm going to go Beth Potter in third.
00;50;44;08 - 00;50;52;20
Lleyton
Okay. I'm going Cassandra by Grant for the win. Yep. She was my pick for the world champion.
00;50;52;22 - 00;50;56;03
Lleyton
Oh. It's tricky. I might go Leona Perry.
00;50;56;10 - 00;50;57;10
Lockie
That's who I was thinking.
00;50;57;13 - 00;51;03;23
Lleyton
I'm going to go Leona Perry out in second, and now I'm going to have Beth Potter in third.
00;51;03;26 - 00;51;08;15
Lockie
Spot of me, because I'm pretty sure I picked Perry out in the podium. So I've kind of just shot myself in the foot there to be in.
00;51;08;19 - 00;51;10;13
Lleyton
We should have looked at our.
00;51;10;14 - 00;51;21;26
Lockie
Because I'm pretty sure I put her in third either way. Like it's going to be it's going to be a very close. And I hate to I hate to brag, but, I if Cassandra and has a win. I picked both world champions.
00;51;21;26 - 00;51;27;20
Lleyton
Yeah, that's, pretty impressive. I picked Alexia, who writes once, who's race once.
00;51;27;22 - 00;51;34;07
Lockie
I made Luke not a bad pick. Like like he was last year's Olympic champion. World champion. But do your homework, buddy. He's doing a little math.
00;51;34;07 - 00;51;35;05
Lleyton
He's marathon running.
00;51;35;05 - 00;51;45;19
Lockie
The marathon runner. All right, so that that's all the elite juniors are late on 20 threes and elite men and women, like we said, just such an exciting.
00;51;45;22 - 00;51;48;16
Lleyton
It's a big weekend. It starts on I think the Thursday.
00;51;48;16 - 00;51;49;29
Lockie
Yeah I, I sat.
00;51;49;29 - 00;51;51;01
Lleyton
Down all weekend.
00;51;51;02 - 00;51;56;27
Lockie
I can't have the exact order. But I believe age group athletes on the Thursday and I think
00;51;57;00 - 00;52;01;07
Lleyton
I think under 20 threes and then it goes juniors and then the late.
00;52;01;10 - 00;52;03;06
Lockie
LH on the Sunday.
00;52;03;08 - 00;52;06;09
Lleyton
I believe on 20 threes.
00;52;06;11 - 00;52;15;09
Lockie
On the 23 on the 23 Thursday juniors, on Friday and then the police powers and mixed team relay on the Saturday and then the elites are on the Sunday.
00;52;15;13 - 00;52;32;21
Lleyton
Yeah. A few of our powers rising that have, good chances also. Yeah. Lauren Parker, four time world champion. Yeah. You can't go past her time for five. And I believe, thanks to you, man. That would be equaling the record for most world championships. Yeah, that's pretty cool.
00;52;32;21 - 00;52;34;17
Lockie
And Lauren Park is a yes.
00;52;34;19 - 00;52;36;22
Lleyton
She's on home soil. She'll lap it up.
00;52;36;24 - 00;52;38;17
Lockie
I think she's from down that way.
00;52;38;19 - 00;52;43;20
Lleyton
Not Newcastle. So close. Yeah. Close. Yeah a steel city. Yeah. Very similar.
00;52;43;20 - 00;52;44;19
Lockie
Just the other side of Sydney.
00;52;44;19 - 00;52;53;21
Lleyton
Yeah, yeah. A new Francis. She's undefeated this year now. Like gun power. Sam Harding is world number four. We've got Aaron.
00;52;53;21 - 00;52;54;21
Lockie
Royal I mean would be.
00;52;54;21 - 00;52;56;03
Lleyton
Looking to, Not a bad.
00;52;56;05 - 00;53;00;17
Lockie
That's not a bad guide to have, is it? Yeah. Just sort of good. Zoom with him and you'll be good.
00;53;00;19 - 00;53;14;01
Lleyton
And then also. So Sam and Jack. Jack, how? We've been training, together with Sam and Jack and Jack's ranked world number two at the moment. So they're probably. Yeah. For big hopes. Yeah. For the Paris to our take out of world championships for sure.
00;53;14;01 - 00;53;24;09
Lockie
And again for them it's the it's just as big of a big of a race. Yeah. It's a world champs on home soil. Yeah. How many, how many times do you get to do that. So yeah. Lap it up. Make the most of it. It's exciting.
00;53;24;11 - 00;53;30;06
Lleyton
Cool. All right. That's pretty much our wrap up of world champs. We're excited to say it.
00;53;30;07 - 00;53;30;18
Lockie
Yeah.
00;53;30;19 - 00;53;38;21
Lleyton
Exactly what happens. We're we're here. We'll be done in the the gold suits, the bloody, you know, yellow and green zinc on their face. And I think they know.
00;53;38;28 - 00;54;02;18
Lockie
And I think like the, the racing racing is especially a world championship. It's, it's different on home. So like that and we've seen some videos of you know the preparation that's been going on and, and, how much it means to an Aussie athlete. And I, there's a sense of pride that Aussies take away sort of, I guess, from representing their country.
00;54;02;20 - 00;54;14;06
Lockie
I mean, I remember grabbing my first green and gold suit and it was like as a junior athlete, I was like tearing up almost because I was like, wow, this is something that you grow up, no matter if it's trough on or if.
00;54;14;06 - 00;54;15;21
Lleyton
Everyone wants to represent.
00;54;15;21 - 00;54;37;26
Lockie
Australia, there is a real sense of pride and I think that's what's really cool about being Australian. Like, not, not there's not many of us. No there's not. We're a smaller nation. I know, obviously not like geographically size wise they're pretty huge. But like, we are a small underdog nation. It's like the even America, the Americans take a lot of pride in representing the Stars and Stripes and, I think that there is.
00;54;37;26 - 00;54;42;01
Lockie
Yeah. And like, there's I've got a little spiel here that I've written off.
00;54;42;04 - 00;54;45;05
Lleyton
That's gold mine. It's gone into the arena long gone.
00;54;45;06 - 00;54;51;01
Lockie
I love to give, love to rev up, rev up, state of origin speech. And like I said,
00;54;51;03 - 00;54;54;12
Lleyton
Greatest game of all the good. This is the greatest sport of all is.
00;54;54;12 - 00;55;14;22
Lockie
Going to be the greatest sport of all. After this weekend's, of next weekend's racing. And like I said, there is, there's something different about racing in Australia. The air feels a bit heavier. The noise feels a bit louder. And every time you zip up that green and gold suit, you feel the weight and the privilege of representing every Aussie athlete who's ever chased the dream.
00;55;14;25 - 00;55;33;24
Lockie
So to every athlete lining up next weekend, this is your moment. You've done the miles. You've done the early mornings, the endless grind when no one's watching. And now you get to show the world what Australian triathlon is all about. Oh, Wollongong isn't just a venue, it's a stage for a statement. You're racing for more than just yourselves.
00;55;33;27 - 00;55;39;10
Lockie
You're racing for the kids. Who's out there training before school. You're racing for the club that's raised you, the.
00;55;39;10 - 00;55;39;26
Lleyton
Battlers.
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Lockie
The every Aussie fan who'll be screaming your name from the sideline so when it hurts. Oh, and it will remember where you are. Remember who's watching. And remember that the green and gold doesn't fold. So for all of us here at the unfunded podcast and from every athlete, coach and fan across the country where behind you go, make it count.
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Lockie
This is your home. Your race is your time.
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Lleyton
Love that. Oh, that tingles day. That gave me tingles. Oh my. Holy shit. Look at these four.
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Lockie
And oh sweating that.
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Lleyton
That was great.
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Lockie
The whole office is probably going what's.
00;56;19;11 - 00;56;25;01
Lleyton
Going on in there? So you guys to edit that and just get like everyone listening. Yeah.
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Lockie
Listen to that. Yeah. Let's, let's get that on the Oz try page that.
00;56;32;14 - 00;56;37;22
Lleyton
Yeah. We'll be bloody in our little green and gold stuff. Yeah. Watching at the TV.
00;56;37;23 - 00;56;42;27
Lockie
I'll be screaming Cheering God, I'm so excited. It's going to be the biggest, biggest three days, four.
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Lleyton
Days, three, four days of triathlon ever.
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Lockie
Yeah. And then in season season's officially wrapped up for world Triathlon champs.
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Lleyton
Yeah, that's a bit sad.
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Lockie
It is. Be sad. There'll be plenty more next year.
00;56;52;29 - 00;56;53;17
Lleyton
Next year.
00;56;53;19 - 00;57;11;05
Lockie
Anyway, let's thank you. Let's wrap up funded. Like we said Aussie athletes go out there, smash it. All right. We're, we'll be watching, we'll be cheering, and, we can't wait to see you all, achieve your dream of racing in the green and gold. And, you'll do us proud, we know. So from all of us, like we said, good luck.
00;57;11;05 - 00;57;15;18
Lleyton
Good luck. Rice, hard rice, fast rice. Yourselves and the country proud. Yeah.
00;57;15;18 - 00;57;36;20
Lockie
That's it. All righty. So that's us. We, wrapping up episode 28 of the unfunded podcast. Again, thank you very much for listening. You can find us on Instagram at the Unfunded Pod. You can also send us an email if you'd like, at the unfunded pod at gmail.com. Thank you very much. Again, to our sponsors. We are very proud to have you on board.
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Lockie
Official be co, grab yourselves a few cans. You'll definitely be, anybody out there celebrating? After the world champs.
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Lleyton
Would be shouts. Yeah, Jesse, Jake, we'll have to get.
00;57;46;28 - 00;57;57;17
Lockie
Them as a main sponsor for for an event. We can do a video just like that on handshake. Anyway, sorry for, screaming in Ukraine if I hit your eyes. I'm really sorry about that. But that is us, the Icelandic boys signing off.