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Introducing the Easeful Uplevel Podcast- where we talk about entrepreneurship, spirituality and living a life in harmony in tune with your natural talents. This podcast is inspired by conversations we’ve been having our entire life as childhood friends and now as entrepreneurs. We are dreamers and we love to achieve big, but refuse to burn out while doing it. This is our journey on the Easeful Uplevel, we hope you come along for the ride & we can't wait to cheer on your own big dreams.
Erin (00:00.333)
just having some girl time.
Allison (00:03.479)
Woo.
Erin (00:03.733)
I love it. So I also forgot to ask you what you want me to promote, Elizabeth.
Elizabeth (00:12.605)
Um, for me, I think just like the Inner Child Discovery sessions. I'm still working on like a lot of stuff, honestly, like working on the newsletter. Um, I haven't like connected my like freebie download yet, like on my website. So I don't know. Maybe I can say it. And then by the time this episode comes out, it'll be up so they can connect that freebie download. Okay.
Erin (00:18.346)
Mm-hmm.
Erin (00:38.073)
Yeah. Yeah, perfect. So I'll just let everyone know to follow you on Instagram at Be Your Selfie EJ and to sign up for your newsletter which has the Inner Child Meditation.
Elizabeth (00:45.951)
Mm-hmm.
Elizabeth (00:52.513)
Yeah, I'm definitely gonna, I was thinking about like what you were saying too of like having the option to sign in and then when I'm ready I'll just start unrolling it so I'm following your advice, Erin.
Erin (01:06.517)
Your internet went out.
Elizabeth (01:08.025)
Yeah, I did. I see it having issues.
Allison (01:09.938)
Yeah, I was gonna say I was wondering if you're gonna turn it just got like robot choppy
Elizabeth (01:14.49)
Oh no.
Erin (01:14.59)
Yeah.
Elizabeth (01:17.001)
Let's see, I might have to do hotspot.
Allison (01:20.162)
That's probably a good idea too for us to make sure we're like closing. I'm like also making sure I'm closing any like random software and things right in the back.
Erin (01:28.253)
Yeah. After all that.
Elizabeth (01:29.486)
Yeah, let me do that.
Allison (01:33.542)
Oh no! The tech errand! The tech portal!
Elizabeth (01:33.799)
One sec, ah, dropped out.
Erin (01:38.509)
I know, Allison, these solar flares.
Allison (01:42.402)
Dude it has been wild under I mean I've like it hasn't necessarily been bad But it is I've been like trying to will myself to do certain things. I'm like nope
Erin (01:50.561)
It's not bad. It doesn't feel bad to me, but it also feels like a lot. I was just like, this is a lot. This is a lot going on. Yeah.
Allison (01:53.026)
But it's a heavier energy. It's like, yeah. It's like dense or something, yeah. Or I was like, it's like kind of moving through mud. Again, not necessarily like negative, but all right.
Elizabeth (02:04.694)
I dropped out. Um, let me swap you guys to my Wi-Fi really are to my hotspot
Erin (02:04.697)
Hello.
Erin (02:09.969)
Yes, and then if you can plug in to plug your charger into the wall that usually helps too.
Elizabeth (02:16.496)
Yeah, that's plugged in. And then.
Erin (02:19.105)
And then if you have any random tabs open, usually close those.
Elizabeth (02:23.436)
No, I, yeah, I ended up closing all of those. I closed everything that I could. And then, I don't know, I guess I should just, it looks like it's working. Let me just swap over just to be sure. That'll take me a second.
Elizabeth (02:51.002)
Bye.
Elizabeth (02:57.265)
Mmmm
Erin (03:00.005)
It's okay, we always reserve the first little bit for tech issues. We've filmed like two podcasts without ever getting any actual.
Allison (03:05.1)
We've learned many of the hard ones.
Elizabeth (03:13.976)
I don't know how people do it, like especially the more professional ones like gee whiz. Okay, I think I'm on the hot spot now. True. And then they have like physical.
Erin (03:19.213)
They have producers.
Allison (03:22.19)
Well, Erin, you are a producer now. Erin's been blowing me away with her producer abilities lately. I'm like, geez, girl, I could start a whole producing business here. Start your podcast with Erin. Bye.
Erin (03:24.89)
I am. I've learned how to be a producer.
Elizabeth (03:31.372)
I'm sorry.
Erin (03:32.581)
I could. At this point, I could. I've been enjoying it though. I really have been having fun. I'm sure Elizabeth has something to say about that, my inner child. She knows me so, she knows me very well, because we are.
Elizabeth (03:43.932)
I do actually. I do. Yeah.
Erin (03:53.217)
perk up, so I knew.
Elizabeth (03:55.636)
Yeah, I see you girl is what I And then I definitely am gonna explain it because they popped up to I did um I went in My meditation was like different than like my inner child the way I do it I kind of let it play a little bit more the focus was on Allison Which we're gonna put you on the spot a little bit But in a good way and then Erin you're definitely like punk rock which I will reiterate
I will reiterate you and it takes-
Allison (04:30.668)
Oh my gosh.
Elizabeth (04:30.716)
What's your sign, Erin? Like, what are your three?
Erin (04:34.196)
I'm a Capricorn? I don't know what other one should I say?
Elizabeth (04:38.192)
your... your rising and your moon.
Allison (04:38.45)
Hold on.
Erin (04:42.825)
Okay, let me pull up my pattern app. I don't know a lot about astrology. I just know, I just look at this app.
Allison (04:46.614)
I was gonna say. I feel like I should be.
Allison (04:51.566)
She's got some Aries in there. There's reasons why. Wait, we have the same. Aren't you a Virgo Moon? Both you and I are both Virgo Moons, I'm pretty sure. I'm an Aries Sun Virgo Moon.
Erin (04:59.089)
Yeah, so my moon is Virgo, my Venus is Sagittarius, my Mars is Aries, my sun is Capricorn, my ascendant is Cancer, my descendant is Capricorn, my mid-heaven is Pisces, my Mercury is Capricorn. I don't know what any of that means.
Elizabeth (05:10.63)
Ooh.
Elizabeth (05:20.138)
No.
Allison (05:22.655)
Well, this is something usually like, it's like, it's sun, moon and rising, right? Or like the main ones, right? Because I'm, I am Aries Sun, Virgo Moon, and Gemini rising. Which is like a wild cup of some day.
Elizabeth (05:33.836)
Uhhhhhh
Elizabeth (05:37.108)
That makes so much sense. That's awesome. The Gemini rising
Allison (05:40.838)
I'm like, yeah, that's where a lot of my lawless chaos comes from. I'm just like, screw it. Let's just do whatever we want. Let's go crazy.
Elizabeth (05:49.716)
With your Aries, your Aries son, oh my God, I love this. You guys both have, you guys definitely both have like a lot of fiery energy, but like, it presents very uniquely like to your own essences, which is fun to see. But yeah, Erin's very punk rock.
Allison (05:52.874)
Yeah, it's a whole combo. Yeah.
Erin (06:06.429)
Interesting. Interesting, oh my goodness. Well, this is exciting. Allison, can you just speak a little bit for a second? Okay, perfect. So I see that you're picking up on the recording, so I think we're good to go. And that was a fun conversation, so I'll probably leave it in.
Elizabeth (06:12.436)
Hehehe
Allison (06:15.618)
Yes. Yeah, the level is looking good. Whew. Keep going.
Elizabeth (06:25.19)
Yeah.
Erin (06:26.689)
So we're super excited to be here today with Elizabeth. Elizabeth is an inner child healer and we are so excited about this conversation given everything that has ever gone on with Alison and I's relationship and the deep history we have of our childhood together and our very impactful meeting. Just to catch everyone up, the first time I met Alison was the first time I can remember that my
intuition came online. I had this like soul knowing when I was four years old and we were sitting in preschool that Allison was my soulmate and I boldly went up to her and told her so. So it was. We were best friends ever since then and we've never stopped.
Allison (07:11.126)
Well, and like a true couple here, I have to interject to add my piece of this. Erin just like also was a micro preemie, tiny, tiny little thing. Now she's this tall, gorgeous woman that you'd have no idea, but like was like just such a peanut even at four when we met each other. And was like, you were so shy and so timid, at least the version of you that I knew then. And I was like the one like.
Erin (07:35.395)
It was.
Allison (07:36.422)
running around with the boys, like clanging things and being like obnoxious and loud. And she was like very timid. And I had never heard her speak before until she came up to me. And she was like, you will sit right next to me at circle time and you will be my best friend. And like very forcefully. And I was like, okay.
Erin (07:55.541)
And then guess what, the next day also, she didn't realize this is forever. So she sat next to me in circle time that day. But then the next day she didn't sit next to me. And I distinctly remember walking over to her and being like, we're supposed to be sitting next to each other. We're supposed to be best friends. And Allison was like, okay, crazy girl, sure.
Allison (08:00.179)
Yeah, he was like...
Allison (08:04.27)
She was like...
Elizabeth (08:13.813)
No!
Allison (08:15.014)
I obeyed though. I was like, listen, when Aaron speaks with conviction, you're like, okay, I'm coming.
Erin (08:21.537)
So Elizabeth, we're so excited to have you here to unpack this. We also want to talk to you about the crazy thing that's been going on with this photo that is just like quantum leaping through our lives. Just to also catch everyone up on the backstory here, because we have a lot to unpack. My well, it's nine year old or how old am I in that photo?
Allison (08:46.618)
I don't know. I think it's your fourth grade, like your book photo that I like I guess had in some kind of as I was moving had in some kind of memorabilia box with a bunch of other photos. I don't actually know I didn't ever remember seeing this photo until I it was like out on the floor one day and I was like there's and in a period after I had a really significant conversation with Aaron and I were like, should we go into business together? Should we start a podcast? Should we combine our lives? And then all and we were like, this is I don't know, are we gonna do this? It was kind of like a question. And then all of a sudden,
Erin (08:49.29)
I think it's fourth grade.
Allison (09:15.902)
like little her showed up. And it was funny because it also was significant to me because I was like, you know what, when we were kids, we were constantly conspiring every different week was a different business. We're like, we're gonna have a pet store. We're gonna have a bookstore. We're gonna have it like, we had all these like, a lot of conspiring happened when we were little. And so I just thought it was so funny that this, and I keep wanting to find it to show it to people because it's so cute. But yeah, whatever fourth grade Erin would be. So that might be like maybe eight or nine. I don't know. I'd have to.
Elizabeth (09:28.212)
Yeah.
Erin (09:45.157)
I think so. I think that's how old you are. Well, it's interesting because that was also the first picture that I was really proud of. The first time you dress up for your school photo, and I was feeling such a diva in that photo. So it's interesting that one decided to haunt you. So this photo has gone back into hiding. We don't know where it is, and we can't find it anywhere. Yeah, it disappeared. It's also digitally gone from our phones because we have been texting it.
Allison (09:45.686)
We have to do the math, but.
Allison (10:07.126)
It just appears randomly at opportune times.
Erin (10:14.829)
back and forth, like pictures of it to each other, because Allison was showing me like all the random places this photo was showing up in her home. And all the digital records of that are also gone. So it's very mysterious.
Elizabeth (10:26.175)
Wow.
Allison (10:26.218)
on both of our phones. We've texted it, it's the weirdest thing that this thing keeps, and I remember putting, at some point I thought I put it somewhere, maybe for safekeeping or something, and then it was gone, and I asked my husband, I'm like, did you move it? He's like, no, and my kids, it was too high for my kids to reach, so I'm like, where has this thing gone again? Guaranteed it's gonna come back. I know it will at some point, and it's gonna be like, it's a mess.
Elizabeth (10:32.29)
I love this.
Erin (10:50.041)
So I first met Elizabeth, well, one of our first meetings actually was her inner child session. And she read me like a book. It was so powerful. I was like crying the whole time. I think as soon as we entered into the Zoom meeting, I just started crying because the energy was so loving and kind and I felt so seen. And it was just such a powerful experience for me.
And Elizabeth also, when she was describing to me what she saw, she saw my childhood, like, rec room, basically. It was just like this area of the house where basically I would play all the time. And she described it to a T. It's almost as if she did like leap back in time to see this. So she is very, very powerful. She is such an authority in this space. So, could not expect, could not.
Elizabeth (11:33.056)
Thank you.
Erin (11:44.745)
imagine a better person to be here to unpack this what is it like a 20 year history that we have going on now Allison 25 we're 35 now we met when we were four so that's almost we're at 30 years so let's get going because we gotta unpack 30 years 30 plus years of time
Allison (11:58.855)
No, we're at 30 years in at this point.
Allison (12:05.138)
Is this like, I have to ask Elizabeth, because I've been so excited to meet you, because Erin has been hyping you up ever since she was like, texting me immediately after she's like, oh my gosh, about her experience with you. And I think this, I know this is something that you do with people. Is this kind of a unique scenario for you to, to read the inner child's childhoods or children of two people who've known each other since we were tiny? I think it'll be, it's just like such an interesting scenario we have set up here for you, for you to like read this.
Elizabeth (12:14.048)
Thank you.
Elizabeth (12:33.348)
Yeah, it's definitely I was telling Erin, it feels like Christmas. It's definitely the first scenario where I get to read like two best friends. I feel like it's not new for me, though. And I'm like looking back and thinking like I read like people and like groups all the time. Like, I think that was just like an inherent trait that I had. But to sit down and play and like unpack things is exciting for me. So like I feel it's almost like.
Deja vu on one hand, but this is the first time. So I'm so excited that you guys invited me to do this because this lights me up.
Allison (13:08.706)
Oh my God, I'm so excited too, just as an aside, I'm a therapist by training and part of me is like, if you could get married people together in terms of some of like the crap that they bring into, no, but truly like for them to connect to each other's inner child, like can you imagine anything more beautiful? So I'm just excited to see where your business goes with all of this, the healing that comes out of this.
Elizabeth (13:29.544)
Aw, thank you.
Erin (13:32.825)
So what kind of like brought you on this path? What made you get started in this journey and kind of discover this line of work? Because I know it's not your initial trade.
Elizabeth (13:44.812)
Yeah, it definitely was not my initial trade, but I think it's been with me forever, honestly. I've always had like this natural like playful tendency. I've always noticed that I'm able to bring out like the sweetness in others, even like the most grumpiest of people. And one of the first examples would be like my grandfather would be like super grumpy. But like when it came to me, he would always be just very kind and sweet. And so, um,
I think initially, like what brought me to this work, like where I'm at now is, I basically had like a reckoning. 2020 and 2021 were obviously like hard years for many of us. And honestly, like I just was by the time I got to 2020 in my career, I had hit the success milestone that I had always been dreaming of.
However, by the time I got to that milestone, I was basically like, for lack of better words, like war torn because it was like struggling and fighting and hustling and doing everything that I needed since I was like 17 to 2020, I was 29. All these like things. And I was thinking that like getting to this like, Shangri-La moment of like I've made it in my career was gonna like make my life better.
And then 2020 happened and I realized like, no, this is gonna get all ripped away from you. Like this is not, like I realized how I put all my eggs in a basket and how like nothing is promised in life. And for me to think that like my life would be able to be sustained like within something outside of me and how it can all be taken away in a flash, you know, many people lost their jobs.
I didn't, but I was on the line. So it was very scary experience for me, especially like after working so hard. So 2020, 2021, I basically learned so many, basically deep, hard lessons, understanding that like, just because you might have had a relationship for a long time, that's not
Elizabeth (16:04.096)
putting all this investment in your identity and your spirit in a career and thinking money was like God, which was that was for me, that could get ripped away. So when I realized that, oh, let me see, am I connected? Oh, so when I realized that it could all be taken away, I again, I woke up, had a reckoning, and then 2022 was me.
Basically putting all the pieces back together. Let me see. Can you guys hear me okay? I keep getting like.
Allison (16:39.518)
I was gonna say you're coming in and out a little bit.
Erin (16:42.085)
Yeah, I'm hoping it's getting it, but you were coming in. Yeah, you're sound like a robot on my end, but I'm hoping that maybe it will be smooth in the recording. There we go.
Elizabeth (16:42.173)
Okay.
like on my end. OK.
Allison (16:46.792)
But it's because I can't.
Allison (16:52.602)
I don't know the video is freezing as well at the moment.
Elizabeth (16:56.476)
Oh no. Hold on, let me see. Cause I see it all, I drop it now.
Allison (17:01.11)
then. Oh.
Erin (17:02.077)
Oh, we lost her. I'm telling you, this frickin' solar flare.
Erin (17:10.99)
Oh man, we'll get her back.
Allison (17:11.272)
It's okay, we'll get it. It'll be beautiful. Listen, now we have natural breaks for ads. Promoting Erin's product.
Erin (17:17.621)
I know this podcast. This podcast is sponsored by, uh, by my, me, Aaron.
Allison (17:22.774)
By Aaron.
We were just saying like now we have natural gaps for our sponsors and our you know, we're like this was brought to you by Erin and her freebie
Elizabeth (17:30.801)
Oh, that's good.
Erin (17:32.345)
You
Elizabeth (17:34.088)
Aww.
Erin (17:35.041)
Yeah.
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Elizabeth (17:41.933)
I notice I definitely have to keep, I don't know, maybe it's my laptop or something, but I definitely have to keep my energy down or grounded or else I feel that creates interference too. So I have to like...
Allison (17:54.717)
You know, honestly, we were just talking about it. We're like, we're going to break the internet today, guys.
Erin (17:55.857)
We're living on the edge with these polar flares and our witchy energy.
Elizabeth (18:04.888)
No. So I'll just try to like remain very calm, very zen. But anyways, I guess long story short, by the time I got to 2022, I was picking up the pieces of just everything being completely shattered, all my ideologies, my beliefs, my identity being shattered. And when I
was picking up all the pieces, I was feeling grief and loss and sadness and all of these emotions that just kept pouring out. And I was wondering like, oh my God, am I going to live like this for the rest of my life? Like, is this, is it always going to be suffering? Is it always going to be hardship? So at the end of 2022, I hired a coach. It was a business coach because I thought it was all had to do with business. I had no idea that it was a spiritual thing. And by the end of that, I was like, oh, I'm going to be a spiritual
session, it was a three-month coaching session, I basically was like, oh, I'm a healer and I'm like a medicine woman. Okay, cool. Like, I guess this is what I'm going to do now. And that's kind of, I jumped into it because I could feel the difference of that felt like home and that felt like my true essence. And funny enough, I was just thinking about it the other day. I actually had one.
a speech contest in first grade because I wanted, like I talked about how I wanted to be a nurse and I wanted to help people heal and connect. So it was interesting for me.
Allison (19:37.166)
Hold on, I think we might be freezing again. Is it okay, Erin, for me to interrupt? I figure we can always pause and let it buffer.
Elizabeth (19:39.376)
Yeah.
Erin (19:41.349)
Oh yeah, it's totally fine. Anyways, back to our ad break.
Elizabeth (19:44.189)
pause and let it do it.
Erin (19:49.721)
Mmm.
Allison (19:50.21)
As soon as she said medicine woman, also the freeze, like didn't her face just give like such medicine woman, no, I'm serious, like how the tech froze.
Erin (19:57.533)
Yes, it did. She said medicine woman and then her face shape shifted. You guys.
Allison (20:04.334)
I don't know. Honestly, to me, I'm curious her heritage. She was looking like extremely Native American, kind of like, I don't know, medicine, like, or not even, I don't even know who put an ethnicity, but like timeless, kind of wild.
Erin (20:19.833)
Yes, we need to go back into Elizabeth's past lives. That's actually the next thing I'm learning, is going into the Akashic record.
Allison (20:23.982)
Mm-hmm.
Allison (20:28.47)
see, she'll read our children, our inner children, and then you can read her past. We are all just gonna be a whole circle, just while you. And I'll be like, hold on, let me see what your spirit guides and your ancestors are saying. We'll all just.
Erin (20:35.242)
Hahaha!
Erin (20:42.405)
we're all just communed together on this podcast. Oh man, like I said, I said this in our overflow group. I was like, I'm just trying to roll with it and go with it because.
Allison (20:45.166)
Oh my gosh. I love you so much.
Allison (20:57.11)
I think even if it's in bits and pieces and sound bites, this is still going to be magical. So.
Erin (21:01.169)
It is magical. It is. We are so lucky to have her with us, because her voice is so powerful, and her energy is amazing. Ooh! Just leave it.
Allison (21:10.142)
Yeah, yeah. And what's so funny too that she said she brings out the sweetness and like, it's so funny as she popped on is like, oh, do I like, I know her, right? Like she just like, like just an instant connection. Yeah.
Erin (21:19.617)
Yeah, didn't you feel like you had a connection? Yeah, I know. We're saying that we just, yeah, we're.
Allison (21:26.602)
We were talking about you. And we were like, gosh, I'm like, when you popped on, it's like, do I know you? Like the instant connection piece that you mentioned like bringing out the sweetness and others, I was like, that's really cool. Of like that, the ability to instantly connect with people, I think is really special.
Elizabeth (21:28.817)
Oh
Elizabeth (21:34.307)
Ha ha ha!
Elizabeth (21:38.179)
Hmm, thank you.
Elizabeth (21:43.959)
Oh, thank you. I'm so sorry for like my internet connection. I'm hoping it'll be a little better.
Allison (21:48.566)
Mm-mm. Listen, we are about messy forward action. Like the whole thing with our pocket, even at times we don't edit out certain things because we're just like, life is so messy and whatever. As long as we get the nuggets of wisdom, even if it's in sound bites, we're here for it.
Erin (21:50.198)
That's okay, you're clear now.
Erin (22:01.625)
So yeah, we can't be having an easeful up level if we're like stressing too much about this podcast. So it keeps us like chilling. So Elizabeth, you are, so you were saying in like 2022, you were kind of like having this moment where you were reevaluating and part of that experience brought you to a lot of grief.
Elizabeth (22:08.963)
That's true. That's a good point. Aww. That's a good point. I... I'm sorry.
Allison (22:11.047)
We roll. We just roll. So it's all good.
Elizabeth (22:19.863)
and listen.
Elizabeth (22:30.755)
Mm-hmm. Yeah, it brought me to a lot of grief and I basically had a process at all. I had woken up after 30 years realizing that like I've been living a lot of shoulds. I should do this. I should follow this career path when actually I realized like, oh my God, that's not, I thought that was what was going to lead me to happiness and it wasn't. It
was completely like my energy was put in somebody else's basket basically. And so I'm still going through a grieving process because there's just so much unraveling and unlearning that I had to do after 20 years. I mean this goes again going back to childhood. So when I realized like oh I got to revisit my childhood.
and like revisit it from an awakened lens. That's basically how I walk through this door of like inner child work because that's basically where it starts. Like our programming, our conditioning from zero to eight and beyond honestly, I not only do like inner child healing but it's really like past life healing or past life healing in this lifetime or past life healing in other lifetimes but it's going back to the past.
Revisiting it and looking at it through a different lens because that's the healing part And you guys have mentioned like the whole quantum leap and like quantum field. It's kind of what it is like You are now awakened You are now aware of so many more dynamics that you were not aware of before as a child That when you revisit a pivotal moment that you had with you and your parents, for example
you are now able to understand where your parents are coming from, understand that it had nothing to do with you, that your parents might have been going through crap that like, that was stressing them out, but because you didn't know better, you internalized it. And when you're able to see that as almost like outside of yourself, like on a movie screen, you can let go of all of this conflict that you've been carrying, thinking it's your fault because it wasn't.
Elizabeth (24:48.419)
And by dissipating that, that is the healing, that is the quantum leap, that is you shifting it because you've shifted your perspective. And you can like, then when you come back to your present moment, you have changed because you are no longer carrying the same conflicts that you carried from the past. So that's, I think, the beauty of like past life healing and the beauty of inner child healing because you see noticeable shifts and you feel it.
quite instantly and a lot of it is by giving yourself love and giving your parents love.
Allison (25:24.058)
This is blowing my mind a little bit. I mean, it's, well, it's something that's, as you were speaking with, the thought that I was thinking is, you know, like, oftentimes people say you can't change the past, the past is the past. And I'm like, honestly, doing this work, you can't change the past because what if you got the past wrong, right? Or you had it in that one lens of like, you know, if this thing was going around, like going on around me when I was six years old and six year old me decided it was my fault or.
Elizabeth (25:26.696)
Hey.
Allison (25:50.522)
I thought that this was happening, but when you go back, like you were saying on this quantum level of how you change and it can shift everything, right? If you go back and look at it differently, where you're like, I had one narrative, but if I come back with a different lens and it's different, you are kind of reshaping the past and reshaping your future. I mean, you're like time traveling. It's wild, right?
Elizabeth (26:09.815)
You are, that's exactly, I love that you got that. That's exactly what it is. You're literally time traveling back in time. And the thing is, is that like, there's a nuance to it because the truth is, is like, you really cannot go back and change what happened to you. Like that, it will always remain. And you have to honor that you cannot change what occurred. There is no way that you can do that, at least not right now. However,
What you are changing is you are changing the perspective, you're changing your capacity and you're changing your understanding of it so that you are able to free yourself and let go. So in that essence, I don't know what's happening again. Let's see if it works. I'm gonna drop out.
Allison (27:00.662)
hold on, we're freezing. Let's give it a second. Oh, are we back? Okay, let's go. Okay, yeah, we just had a...
Erin (27:05.317)
We're back.
Elizabeth (27:06.927)
You're back. Yes.
Erin (27:08.905)
Oh, you froze a little bit. Got Roboty again.
Elizabeth (27:13.667)
haha
Allison (27:15.31)
I think we'll keep rolling with it if it gets too crazy to Aaron. Do you think eventually would moving to Zoom or anything be an option? Or do you think we just stick with it? And even if we just do it in sound bites? OK, we got it. OK. Yeah.
Erin (27:22.221)
Hmm. Let's just keep rolling with it. We're okay. We're getting enough. Yeah.
Elizabeth (27:28.199)
Especially to maybe because we have extra time. We have a little bit of an abundance of time. Um, So basically The it is it is time traveling 1000 Um, there's still a moment where you have to honor the past and honor that like what happened And then also When you go back and shift that lens you are shifting something within yourself presently
Erin (27:33.269)
We do. We'll be fine.
Allison (27:33.783)
Yeah
Elizabeth (27:56.803)
And because you're shifted presently, then your future gets shifted too. Because now you're making decisions from a different version of you versus who you were before the meditation or before the healing. So that is how you get to shift the past, present, and future, but also honoring that you can't tell the future, honoring where you are in the present, and honoring what did happen and what occurred. Because that is a big thing for people is like, I think people get a little bit.
I'd say like, you know emotional about like the invalidating of what happened, but we're not invalidating it We're honoring it and also providing a broader lens in the hope of bringing about that healing
Erin (28:40.813)
Yeah, I think the way that you set up your sessions is so beautiful because it really does take care to honor that experience that you had as a child, and it doesn't invalidate the perspective that you had. So while you might be also gaining some additional knowledge or additional understanding of the full scope, you're kind of helping us to zoom out and see all the different layers that are available.
Elizabeth (28:54.02)
Mm-hmm.
Erin (29:06.677)
you're still recognizing that those feelings of that child in that moment are still very valid. And I think that honestly is what like choked me up so much whenever you and I did our session together, because I think there was so much of me that was invalidating those feelings that I had in those moments. Um, and so it was really healing for me just to hear that these, these emotions that I had were okay and they are valid.
Elizabeth (29:22.964)
Mm-hmm.
Erin (29:35.993)
And there's still, but also like there is a larger picture to understand and it was very, very healing in that way. You did it, you do a great job of approaching the subject matter.
Elizabeth (29:47.555)
Yeah, I find a lot that, you know, it's hard. Like I've been told this before of like, oh, you're feeling sad. Just don't feel sad anymore. Oh, you're just do this. Just do that. Just do this. And it's like, I don't know how. Like, I don't know what that means. And so I think that comes like, honestly, like, I think that validation comes because that's the secret sauce to be able to.
Allison (29:48.29)
Yes, ma'am.
Elizabeth (30:14.747)
open up the walls that people may have built around their hearts because if you don't acknowledge, if you don't honor and validate what the inner child was feeling, they just want to fight. They just want to fight and like be heard and they have this like angstiness like, no, hear me. It's the tantrum. But once you're able to like give them love and honor and acknowledge them, it's like
that melts away and that's what creates the space for the inner child and the person to like open up because so many times the inner child qualities are dismissed in today's society. We have to grow up so fast, we have to be responsible, we have to do this, we have to do that. So more and more of that playful, creative, sparkly version of ourselves get pushed to the side.
And when you finally come to sit down and to connect to those feelings, that's when the tears come out. Because it's like, I can't believe I treated myself so badly. I'm sorry. But it's a huge exercise in forgiveness, in unconditional love, in worthiness, just even in the scope of like an hour.
Erin (31:24.865)
Mm-hmm. Yeah, it was very transformative and I loved also the Exercise that you did to help me to connect my to my inner child Do you had a have me draw with my left hand and that was really neat too to kind of like have that experience of feeling like While what I'm seeing in front of my eyes is also looking like it's from a child And so it's like a full sensory opportunity to really connect in to
Allison (31:26.922)
So beautiful.
Elizabeth (31:46.831)
Mm-hmm.
Erin (31:52.665)
your heart and kind of remember the beautiful things about being a kid and the mystery that was all around during that time.
Erin (32:05.229)
We miss, oh, we lost her. We lost her again. Oh.
Allison (32:05.522)
No. Honestly, like, I kind of like these gaps because this is like so profound. Yeah. My brain is like, I mean, even like.
Erin (32:14.941)
Because it's a lot to process. It's a lot.
So Allison, I knew this was gonna be so transformative for you because I know you're currently in your process of like inner child discovery. I was actually getting a note from Pattern today that you're right in line with your astrology. This is the time when you are actually entering into that moment of introspection. It's you're like kind of like, they're saying something about where Neptune is in your chart. That's like where you're entering into. And it's a time of like.
healing, introspection. It's a really beautiful time, but it's also a time that might feel a little heavy for you. So it was interesting. Even your pattern app was telling me, like, this is the time for Alison to be looking inward at these things. I hope you don't mind me sharing with everyone.
Allison (33:06.142)
Yeah. Oh my gosh. No, it's fine. What is so funny because we're like looking into getting a puppy. Right. And I know that was like one of the things but some of this is like, it's really interesting looking at my kids and the experience I want them to have. Right. Even just like remembering like how old was I when we got my childhood dog? Right. And reconnecting to that. Yeah, that connection. Right. It's like it's just yeah, the child stuff has been coming up a lot lately. It's really cool.
Erin (33:13.957)
I'm sorry.
Erin (33:26.925)
miles. Yes, we loved him.
Erin (33:35.897)
Elizabeth's back. So we were just talking about how Allison is thinking about being a puppy and this conversation actually is very timely because she has been doing a lot of inner child work. So I'm not surprised that you got a lot of messages for her actually.
Elizabeth (33:49.446)
I did. I got a lot.
Allison (33:50.81)
Yeah, I've been really, I've been really diving into all the inner child kind of stuff. And I do I love the we're like, we actually love that you were dropping out so we could like process some of the beautiful gold gems that you just dropped. No, truly of like the whole integration, right. Of the shadow of the light and how it interplays and how you can grieve things that happened and hold space for like what child you felt and then hold space for what adult you thinks and feels.
Elizabeth (34:01.633)
Aww.
Allison (34:18.046)
and have those interplay and love on each other. To me, I almost think of that yin-yang, where it's forever the light and the dark kind of going and cycling into each other in terms of wholeness, that integration. Yeah.
Elizabeth (34:30.666)
Yes. Yes, I love that you brought that up because that's exactly what it is. It's understanding that your shadow is just as natural as like the shadow you see on the sidewalk and that there's nothing to fear it. Like you don't walk around fearing your shadow. And so this like psychological, Jungian spiritual shadow that you have is also a part of you. But so many people push it away, push it away, push it away that it will come back, slap you in the face full force.
And then you wonder why you're feeling frustrated and angry and burnt out and stuck, which is what I was feeling when I had my awakening. And what's interesting is that many people, you know, with the shadow, a lot of people think it's only the bad things like your mean side or your, I don't know, your stingy side, your greedy side, like all these already bad things.
But it's anything that's like not accepted within yourself or not accepted as like the ideal. And so the inner child may not be accepted or ideal because they don't have qualities that will allow us to succeed in the rat race, in the everyday grind. So we push that to the side or we repress it. And when we repress it, that actually creates internal conflict. So we're walking around completely conflicted within ourselves.
not only with the inner child, but with like all parts of ourselves that we're not accepting. And I think what's interesting is messaging. Not only are we now seeing things on TV, but we have social media. And like all this messaging of what's acceptable, what's not acceptable, it's so overwhelming. You need to sell a million emails. You have to stop eating apples and fruits and carrots and all of this stuff. You're just creating more conflict within yourself.
So is it any wonder that we're seeing conflict in our physical day-to-day world? Like that what you see inside is what is like, what is outside. So there's all these people running away from their shadow, from their darkness, creating that conflict, exacerbating that conflict, and they wonder why they feel so terrible. And also that shift, because the moment you just stop and turn around and face it and acknowledge it, that is honoring it, and then the conflict dissolves.
Elizabeth (36:54.974)
people cry, but then they feel better. And so like that is the healing. Like that is what you have to do is you have to be willing enough to just stop running from your monsters, turn around and face them. And it's funny because the inner child can be seen as like a monster, cause it's not acceptable. But then when you turn around and you face the inner child, it's like, I can't believe I've been.
thinking of you as a monster and I've been treating you so harshly." So it's a double whammy because you dare to turn around and face your shadow and then you dare to turn around and forgive and love yourself and the inner child is the epitome of like unconditional love and a lot of the times they're like, it's okay, I just want to play with you and I just want to love you. In the very same way that kids are similar like that, parents mess up and you say sorry to the kids and the kids are like, you know what, I forgive you, it's okay.
to do that within yourself and to dissipate this internal conflict and build confidence through acknowledging your scary side, but it's not scary because you realize it's natural and organic, that is creating wholeness and that is creating really like a beautiful fulfillment from within.
Allison (38:13.242)
This is just so beautiful, so wild, it's so funny. I was having a conversation literally just this morning with my six-year-old about honesty and like the saying sorry piece, right? Because it's the whole like, okay, something that you've deemed bad has happened or a mistake or an accident or something. And then you conceal it on top of it. And I said, honestly, often it's the concealing or the hiding, the lying, the running away, all that kind of stuff that actually makes the bigger problem.
Erin (38:14.297)
So amazing.
Allison (38:42.174)
And really like, if you, you know, like threw a ball to a friend and hit him in the face, if you were just like, oh my gosh, I'm so sorry. And you came to them and like, I didn't mean to, and what can I do for you? Versus, I didn't do it. And I don't know what you're talking, like almost the second part, right, is where the relational damage happens. And then the shame, right, of not fessing up. We were like, we were getting into all that. I was like, so even though it's hard, it's always better just like, be honest. And it was really cool talking to, you know, he's six years old, but.
Like he got it. He was like, yeah, totally. He's like, he's like, why, why? Like we should all just be honest, right? He's like, he literally said it saves time. Right? And I was like, so efficient. He's like, so funny.
Erin (39:20.217)
It does. It slowly dies. That's why, that's why I'm always so honest. Cause I'm like, I'm just going to cut to the chase. Let me tell you. And sometimes that can feel really abrasive. You know, like whenever I've, I've really had to work on my delivery of my honest truths, because that's the other thing. Alison, I always crack up about, because like, I was always just like very much. Like when I saw it, I would see it when we were growing up and we had this whole saying that we've talked about before on the podcast was just like, you can't lie about the truth.
Elizabeth (39:20.296)
It does.
Elizabeth (39:27.434)
Bye!
Allison (39:27.678)
Right? Let's just like, cut off the volume. Mm-hmm.
Erin (39:50.433)
But that just came, and that came from me just being like saying out loud what I saw and what I was feeling in that moment. And yikes, why is that piss people off?
Elizabeth (39:58.698)
I think that's why you're punk rock, actually.
Allison (40:01.086)
Yeah, well, and she literally can't lie. Wait, can I share Aaron when we were younger, I'm like, I think it was like a church retreat or something, but we were all playing bullshit, the card game, right? Where you're supposed to lie. Aaron cannot play it for the life of her. I'm guessing you can't play poker either. I mean, truly could not. All you had to do is look at her and she would just like, whoa, she couldn't take it. No poker face, like she was just like, I...
Erin (40:10.781)
Oh yeah, I can't play that game. Nope.
Oh.
Allison (40:26.866)
I don't understand the whole game around lags. She's like, I literally can't, my physiology can't even do it. I cannot lie.
Elizabeth (40:33.802)
I'm the same way. I am the same way. Like I will giggle. I will like my inner joy of like, I got the better cards, ha ha. And like it'll all just come out. But in the same way though, like when you see it and you call a spade a spade, a lot of the times that's the work is that people get mad and people, you know, some people with respect to everybody's own inner healing journey, when you're able to.
Erin (40:34.06)
I have no choice. I literally have no choice.
Elizabeth (41:00.49)
call out the truth. I think that's actually the essence of like the wild woman, honestly. The wild woman knows she's in her truth. You can't pass nothing by her, but that is actually very threatening to a lot of people who don't, are not ready to acknowledge their own shadow. So if you're walking around super bright, you're only like putting more of a contrast to a person's shadow. You're the one that's looked at as like the bad guy.
And that's an unlearning that I had to go through of like, I'm not the bad guy. Like I'm just shining and like owning that shine. And then the old days we were prosecute or persecuted for it. Now we're different where it's like, no more persecution. Like we are, this is time for us to shine, all of us.
Allison (41:47.728)
Mm-hmm.
Erin (41:48.929)
We have arrived and I find myself admiring like everyone who is courageous enough to show up as themselves. I love working in the creative space because it really does strip you bare. Like in order to do your best work, you have to show up in your most authentic.
Elizabeth (41:50.256)
Mm-hmm.
Erin (42:09.301)
I mean, I can't even say it because it makes your throat shocker just close up when you think, oh my gosh, I'm gonna have to show up as myself. I have no choice. I have to be stripped bare in order to make the impact that you want to make. You really do have to speak your truth, show up the way you look that day. Like, you really have no choice if you are wanting to make the type of impact I think that we're all seeking to make at this point, which is just that true, authentic connection.
Elizabeth (42:22.575)
Mm-hmm.
Erin (42:37.709)
But it can be triggering inside and also triggering to other people too. So it's interesting. It's a paradox.
Elizabeth (42:42.854)
It's scary. Mm hmm. Definitely.
Allison (42:45.39)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Erin (42:47.841)
When someone's going through inner child work, is there often a theme to the type of things that we're healing inside of us? What are you generally noticing as you've worked with so many people to do this work?
Elizabeth (43:01.146)
Um, there's a lot that comes up over and over again. Um, a lot of the times the theme to the work is that they need their own, like they're looking for validation. Their wounded inner child is like, I don't think I'm enough. I don't think I'm okay to come out. I want to come out. And I feel this like it's again, the conflict has gotten too big where like the person that's that I'm reading has like
Basically, it's gotten so big that they don't know what else to do and they don't know where to turn. A lot of it is, the number one is, how can I heal my inner child or how can I find the love and the happiness? The irony and the paradox is, is like when you're asking those questions, you already have it within you. It's almost like they're looking for me or somebody else to say, like, hey, it's okay to shine. It's okay to be bright. Sometimes it's necessary, honestly.
But what ends up happening is once you begin healing the inner child and the inner child is like, I'm free and I can go play You realize that you really don't need anybody else's permission. In fact kind of permission doesn't exist You know, that's a conditioning from when you're younger, which is obviously Necessary and you know, there's a room and a place for that. However as adults
It's like they're over here and they're like, I wanna be creative, I wanna let myself shine. And it's like, can I do this? I don't know if I could do this. And I'm just usually telling them like, yeah, girl, like let it go, like it's your time. You've done a lot of work already. And so it's the acknowledging of it and understanding that you are now your own validation. You are now your own parent, your own adult, but there's really no rules anymore.
Erin (44:52.309)
Yeah, I feel that because it's interesting. I mean, our, our session was very positive. I mean, I was crying through it, but it wasn't like you were bringing up any like hard truths to me, what you mostly were saying was like, you're doing great. Keep going. And that was interesting. That felt very validating because I think I, you know, when I started in my business journey, I reconnected to my inner child and I said, what did she like to do? Let me just even remember that. And so this.
Elizabeth (45:06.121)
Yeah.
Erin (45:19.821)
journey that I've been on for the past several years has been to help reconnect myself into the things that little Erin liked to do and she liked to do a lot of things. She loved to report, she loved to learn people's stories, she was obsessed with journalism so like podcasting is really fun for me. I love hearing other people's stories. She liked to dance, she liked to do all sorts of creative things and so it was really...
Wonderful to hear that from you and I'm I know the journey is not done. It's just starting where I am right now it's just beginning but I Want to also acknowledge that like inner child work can sometimes be I? Don't know I think it has this like Mysterious nature like a lot of people think oh It's gonna be really dark and I am gonna go through that grieving period and I am gonna have to feel the hard things that I
that I don't wanna feel, but also it can be very light and playful. And it can be kind of like that exploration, that remembrance. It can bring so much joy and light into your life as well. And it doesn't always need to be that like grieving moment. I think everyone should expect to go through some of those grieving moments. And that's, I think to be expected, but also I don't wanna necessarily turn people off because there's a lot of
happiness at you know during that process as well and also at the end of course you feel so free.
Elizabeth (46:47.346)
Well, what's interesting with everything that you're saying, going back to the paradox, a lot of this work is paradox because so many, I think the normal thing is to grieve and to do the hard thing and to suffer and to do this and to do that and it's got it, you gotta trudge along because that's just what we're taught. What's crazy and like mind blowing is that the most radical thing is joy. Imagine being like.
Keeping your joy intact when everybody else is like, whoa, it's me, I'm suffering and doomsday and all of this. To keep your joy is the most radical standout thing that you can do despite of everything. So when we talk about happiness, when we talk about joy, everybody wants happiness, everybody wants joy and wellness and wellbeing, and they look at other people and wish that they can have it, or sometimes they're jealous that they don't have it, which is.
Allison (47:20.067)
You
Elizabeth (47:40.874)
two sides of the same coin. And so it can feel very dangerous to come from a life of survival mode and fight or flight to now you're at ease and you're joyful and you're well-being. You're gonna look around and be like, oh my God, where's this shoe gonna drop? If you're not conditioning yourself, if you're not supporting, if you're not grieving and feeling and purging. And so...
What's interesting is that another theme, so many people that come to me, they've done so much work. They've done the digging, they've done the searching, they've done all the work for 20 years, 30 years. And by the time that they get to me, their inner child is like, look, I honor and acknowledge you for doing all this work, but guess what? Now's time to let go and to enjoy the joy and to trust that this new joyful, playful version.
of you is going to soar and fly. And I get double takes where like the inner child will be like, there's no more work to do. There's nothing else that you have to dig. There's no more work that you got to do. You've made it. And everyone is so like holding on to the shovels. I'm like, no, there's still more things. And so it's crazy because the shadow for me, you think of like the shadow as like the underworld and like the underbelly.
But the flip side to it, and to understand this dark, is Enchanted Forest. And the Inner Child is the guide in the Enchanted Forest. It's the darkness that magic can happen, and abundance can happen, and unicorns float by, and magical creatures float by. But everyone is so afraid of like, oh no, the monsters and the creatures, that the fear doesn't allow them to really be present into where they are. And so the Inner Child as a guide is...
open and curious and open to wonder and open to see the three-eyed butterfly or the six-legged unicorn, which is what we see in like little kids drawings and stuff. That's their imagination. But we've become so closed off thinking that like that area is so bad that we don't dare visit it. That when we're as adults, we're like, no, we don't want to go over there. And of all people, the inner child's like, no, come over here. The water's fine.
Erin (50:03.173)
I'm gonna, it's going out again, but I love how Elizabeth was calling me out there. She's telling me, she's speaking to my soul. She's like, maybe, maybe the work is done, girl. Maybe you just need to enjoy.
Allison (50:03.762)
Oh my god. Oh, we're maybe freezing a little bit.
Allison (50:13.006)
Thanks for watching!
No, seriously, that also really resonated with me too, because like, especially if it doesn't really hold onto that shovel though, right? I'm like, let me go a little deeper.
Erin (50:22.462)
I didn't want to give myself that permission.
Allison (50:26.446)
It's like, why don't I pause and let some of the butterflies fly up, right? Like, come on. Chill out, man.
Erin (50:31.009)
Yeah, we need to stop taking ourselves so seriously over here. Oh man, I think she's coming back.
Allison (50:36.458)
Oh my goodness. Let's give her a second to come back. She might need to drop out and come back. Does it help to... Okay, are we back? Okay, I was gonna say, if it helps to, to like drop out and come back in, because I think it does kind of like reset the, I don't know, the ether here.
Elizabeth (50:41.258)
I'm back. I'm back, I'm back.
back. Yeah.
Erin (50:52.289)
Yeah, do what you need to do over there. Yeah, we were just saying, you were just like speaking into my soul. Like, first of all, you have such a strong intuition. So I wanna ask you also, how did you develop and harness that? Or has it always been something you've been connected to? I'm fascinated to learn how you got to be so powerful.
Elizabeth (50:55.006)
Okay.
Elizabeth (51:18.55)
Oh, thank you. I think I've always had the intuition, but I've always pushed it to the side because it was to be dismissed. There was nothing else existed in my world unless it was tangible. So I wouldn't be taken seriously if I didn't have enough money. I wouldn't be heard if I didn't have the top position in my career, all of these tangible things. So when I...
felt the strong disconnect, I realized that my gifts are actually in the unseen and the in between. Collaboration, generosity, giving, energy, all of these things that you can't prove because you can't see it, which is not true, but that's like a whole, that's a whole different thing. But when I woke up that to my gifts and I owned them and honored them and be like, no, this is real. There's something to explore here. That's honestly when like everything kind of
ignited for me and it's been very rewarding because the more I honor my gifts, the more they give me gifts. So very reciprocal and symbiotic. But also I'm not the only one. Like anyone can do this. It's a matter of honor. Like honor is a very big ethos for me because you can do so many things by just a simple honoring and acknowledging of anything honestly and that opens so many doors. That's like the magic.
password.
Allison (52:45.854)
I'm so proud of you.
Erin (52:46.113)
Wow, that's so fascinating to me. I just have to take a second. Every time you just drop these truth bombs, I'm just like, whoa. Ha ha ha.
Elizabeth (52:48.827)
I'm sorry.
Allison (52:50.451)
I'm sorry.
Elizabeth (52:54.342)
Aww, thank you.
Erin (52:57.465)
This is like truth telling. I mean, it's amazing, Elizabeth. Yeah, I really do appreciate you for saying that too. And like you also, I mean, I've been on my own journey to strengthen my intuition and honor it and acknowledge it. And I really appreciate your encouragement because you haven't been encouraging me along the way to do that. And I just really look up to you because you are so like in tune with.
Elizabeth (53:17.311)
Hehehe
Erin (53:22.081)
with what you see and what you hear. And you're not afraid to really speak into this very powerful existence that you have, but the truths that you see in other people.
Elizabeth (53:22.634)
Mm-hmm.
Elizabeth (53:33.074)
Thank you. It's scary. I gotta, you know, honestly it's, and I've told you this before because you and I have talked about like in my newsletter and my messaging. It's scary to like put yourself out there. So like, I can sit here and talk about honor and truth and like do it for myself, do it for others. But when it comes to doing it for myself again, it's like I have to stay honest within myself too because then that energy reads.
And I would be lying if I did not say every single day, I feel fear, I feel grief, I feel all of these crappy emotions, but they're not crappy, they're best, they're gifts too. But I think people think like, oh, love and light and inner child and play, but you really have to dare to go into the enchanted forest, into that shadow world. And what comes out of it is treasure. You know, you face your dragons, but dragons usually guard treasure.
So when you're able to face them, you can reap those benefits, but it's scary every day, every day.
Allison (54:33.054)
Well, it's so interesting that you say that because in terms of the healing journey, I do feel like there's something when you stop repressing things and you start looking at things and facing the monster and all this kind of stuff. In some ways you get more sensitive, you feel things more in various ways. And it's funny when I talk to people about, when they're like, this thing that we're working towards, which is like ease and peace and love and joy. And to me, it's more like the lack of turmoil. I don't have these things fighting within me as much. I mean, of course there's moments,
I think it's more of like, okay, we have this peaceful baseline and then there's like the day to day, like something random happens and this and that and you react to like your human being that feels all your feelings. But at the end of the day, there's not like these like warring beasts or something that you have like, I have boxed this and pushed it here and I'm putting energy into keeping this over here or down here. It's like once you take some of that out, like.
It's so freeing and there's so much less work to be done in terms of like wrestling with that stuff. You know, you just kind of let it out and you look at it and you honor it. Like all those things that you're saying of like, the fight and the wrestling kind of goes away. It's just like, let's just allow. Like, let's just let it flow. Different energy.
Elizabeth (55:38.486)
Yes, it's the allowing. Yes, it's the allowing, it's the surrendering, it's the trust, it's the faith, the honesty, because it's like moving mountains and moving boulders when you dare say like, oh, you know what, I'm being irritable or I'm scared or I need help, you know, or to be like leaning on somebody else. Anything that puts you in a vulnerable place, it's scary. It is really easy to like.
push it away, push it in a box, because that's what we've learned to do. But as you said, it takes so much energy. And like the beauty of the ease is that it's not like you're walking through life and there's less things like happening to you, or there's less, I don't know, conflict on the outside. You're so confident from the inside that you exude that. And that like positive pressure from the inside out creates insulation.
for you to be able to walk through the world kind of insulated and protected and bubbled, but it's not coming from anywhere else other than you, because it's not coming anywhere else other than you, there's more where that came from. No one can take that away from you. And when you realize that, and that you have the power to like affect others through that in a positive way, whoo, watch out world. And that's why I do what I do, because if we can have all those people, I think the world would be a lot, you know, different place.
Erin (57:02.925)
We're trying. We're trying to have all those people.
Allison (57:03.634)
Amen. I mean, this is just like, well, it's so funny too. Actually, this might be not a new concept to other people, but it was a new one that I just learned this past week of tall poppy syndrome, right? That people get afraid, right, to be the one flower, right, that is taller than the rest. It's the whole thing about shining, right? Because this idea that it's the highest head that's gonna get chopped off, right? Or that's a target, right? Whether it's, you know, the flower's down here or something else. And, and
I think this is the whole thing, even the proverbial climbing to the top of the mountain and worrying that someone's gonna snatch it or your good job is gonna go away or all these things. But I do think there is something to this and there is this phenomenon too of like people who kind of shine or get to the top that do have skeletons in their closet. People, like it's a magnifying glass and that can like chop some people down for sure. But this concept of like, if what is making me shine is-
Elizabeth (57:38.685)
Yeah.
Allison (58:00.522)
truly love, how do you chop down love? And if I'm like shining and it's literally bringing everybody up and they're growing, like it's making them grow, like good luck chopping me down. And if I have roots, you know, like all of that kind of stuff of like, I do think there's some moments of like, if the height you're getting is because you're stepping over other flowers, you know, and like eating other flowers to get out there, then like, yeah, you're gonna get chopped. But I think this concept of like.
Elizabeth (58:09.862)
Yes.
Allison (58:26.514)
I think there's a safe way to shine and the shine that's like that pure love and joy is like undeniable, right? In truth.
Elizabeth (58:32.074)
Yeah, so I love what you said. I got like so excited. Everything you said is like the magic because the tall poppy syndrome, being afraid to shine because your head's gonna get chopped off or the flower, it's because like that's death. That's like a representation of death. Like you're gonna die if you do that. And what's interesting is like because you're facing the shadow and you're facing what's not ideal to your ego.
you are actually putting yourself in the fire, you are actually putting yourself in an ego death. So like what you're facing is death and you're still alive, but obviously like there's a part of you that is so scared that it's gonna die, that it would rather repress everything in a box than have you face it. So you face the things that you think are gonna make you die and then you're facing death. And the more you face death and the more you realize like, wait a second, I'm okay, I'm alive.
then the shiner and brighter you become because you realize like the darkness is not to be scared of death yes not that i want death like in real life but this feeling of i'm gonna die goes away so you're no longer scared of doing things that you may not have done before and then talking about like the idea of like skeletons in the closet it's not that everybody has to err their dirty laundry but some people don't even want to face their own dirty laundry on their own and if
do that, then you're not going to face that necessary death and acceptance of the dirty laundry. So when you get to the top and if that comes out, people are going to be like, you did this and you did that. And if you haven't gotten the muscle memory to fight that out and grapple with it, then you're going to be in a much, it's going to be a tougher time for you versus when you're up there and you're like, you know what? Yeah, I did do that. I'm sorry. I made mistakes. I acknowledge I'm not perfect.
And it goes back to the conversation that you had with your, I think it was your son, where, for example, in authenticity, I was driving down the street. There was a motorcyclist and I didn't see him and I almost went into him and he slammed on my car really hard. And I rolled down the window and I was like, I'm so sorry, I did not see you. I apologized, like, what are you doing? You're doing this, you crazy.
Elizabeth (01:00:58.522)
I know, I'm dumb, I made a bad mistake, I'm sorry, I apologize. Instantly, his shoulders went down and he was like, you know what, it's okay, whatever. And I was like, go ahead, like I'm sorry, I really, I'm sorry. And so to be able to authentically say how dumb of a move that was, I told him, I didn't look in my mirror, I wasn't paying attention, I apologize, I'm really like sorry, he like let go and he kept moving. And so...
to, for me to say like I'm a perfect driver and I never make these mistakes would be ridiculous because everyone does stupid stuff. And so the fear and even acknowledging that other situations it would have been like, hey, motorcyclist, you shouldn't have been in my way. Watch what you're going. But that just creates more conflict. So when you're able to face the most problematic, scariest skeleton in your closet,
You've already done the work of facing death and fear already that when you are that one poppy You're not scared anymore because you've already come to terms forgiven yourself acknowledged it and now you're whole And so if somebody does bring it up, there's nothing for you to fight. You're like, yeah, I did do that I did i'm sorry, you know, I messed up and you can't really say anything to that no one can really hold anything for you because like You're like, yeah, what do you want from me? I got nothing So there's huge beauty and strength in that
Erin (01:02:19.629)
Yeah, it's amazing. I'm just sitting here thinking like, what a better world we would be if like, people were just, I mean, can you imagine a press conference, someone like getting on their microphone, all the press around them and being like, yeah, I really did mess up. I shouldn't have done that. Like that.
Allison (01:02:19.694)
Thanks for watching!
Allison (01:02:26.75)
Yeah, honestly, I feel like we're unlocking the keys to the universe
Elizabeth (01:02:37.606)
When do you see that? Like when do you, I've seen that. Like I think Reese Witherspoon did that where she had like a, she was like being belligerent and she went on TV, she was like, I'm sorry. Like my bad, I did it, yes, it was a mistake. You didn't hear anything after that because she owned it. And you don't really see too many examples of that. A lot of the times people wanna blame others instantly, project, point the finger. But if you...
Allison (01:02:39.21)
Sorry.
Elizabeth (01:03:04.986)
Again, you save yourself time of like all these things. If you're like, yeah, I did it guys, my mistake. Cause who can honestly, we're all human, who can honestly say, you know, he throw the first stone basically.
Allison (01:03:20.202)
Let's pause for a second.
Erin (01:03:20.846)
We made it so far in this conversation.
Allison (01:03:24.342)
Honestly, we have so much already. I think we're gonna have to have Elizabeth back at some point, because this is like so profound. It's blowing my mind. I'm gonna have to re-listen to this three times. And it's so funny, actually, this morning, I was talking to one of our avid podcast listeners. It's so funny, because we're kind of at the start of our journey, but there's a few people who literally wait till Friday. They're like, it drops today. We already have at least one of them that I talked to this morning, who actually hired one of the people we had on last week.
Erin (01:03:52.047)
God bless you. I love you.
Allison (01:03:52.398)
Like, listen to it instantly, you know, do a consult, which is amazing. Shout out to her because I know she's listening. Yeah, but it's like, there is something really, I think, profound about this, and I'm really excited for the people who do listen to this podcast to receive all of this energy and knowledge and have it inspire a lot. Like, seriously, take notes. Like, actually go back and re-listen and take notes. Because it's funny, even as we've been speaking, you know, I think...
Erin (01:03:59.681)
We love you, hello.
Erin (01:04:15.928)
Um.
Allison (01:04:21.682)
All of us here, I think the thing that we all have in common is that we're like, we're really intuitive. We're really tapped into the things unseen. We receive messages like wisdom in different ways. Like even this morning, that same client, she always calls me wise one. She's like, you're so wise. And it's so funny, I always chuckle at it because I'm like, well, this wisdom isn't coming for me. Like I'm literally, it's like I'm tapping into something and I get impressions and...
Elizabeth (01:04:22.639)
No.
Elizabeth (01:04:41.917)
I love it.
Allison (01:04:47.146)
Sometimes it's a picture and sometimes it's a word, but like literally, and I tell people like, well, this is what's coming through right now. And I'm not even necessarily doing intuitive healings. I just can't stop from doing it of like, this is the phrase I'm supposed to say to you now. And sometimes it's literally meaningless to me. And they're like, oh my gosh, it's crazy that you say that. So I think it's, so maybe all of that being said is would this be a good time to transition into the inner child? Like, oh my gosh, I'm so excited about this.
Erin (01:05:09.257)
love to hear what came up.
I'm excited about it too. I can't wait. So.
Elizabeth (01:05:17.481)
Yeah, I think actually it's all on topic. I'll just, I guess I'll go, I'll just like share with what I got. You guys are definitely soul sisters. Like I said, the readings that I do normally, what I'm sharing with you is a little different because we're being more playful here. But basically you guys are like cut from the same cloth of spiritual essence.
Allison (01:05:22.094)
Oh!
Elizabeth (01:05:42.309)
The way you guys showed up, I was in a Cauchy Records room. It was like Dumbledore's library. It was like an old looking room. And you guys both have read books. One Erin book, one Allison book. And they're both read bright red, which is very fiery, very passionate. You guys are alive with energy. You guys are like, if the books were butterflies, you guys floated off the shelves. And...
You guys kind of find each other in different lives. So like, if, if Alison, you're at the top of the bookshelf and Aaron, you're at the bottom, you guys fly out and like try to find each other, which makes a lot of sense why Aaron was like, I see you. And then Aaron's like, you got me. Yeah, I see you. And so. Yeah.
Erin (01:06:24.8)
I found you!
Erin (01:06:30.222)
video.
Elizabeth (01:06:33.225)
Which is hilarious because it's like you guys are again cut from like the same cloths. Do you guys have the same? Essence to your books to your energy um, the difference though is that I was saying erin you're so like Your name is was in like dark green and alison. Your name was in like sparkly gold and so erin's energy is actually very grounded but very like
almost physical and I keep saying punk rock, but it's like you're very physical, you're a mover. You're a pusher, you're a mover, you're bossy, but you're like, you know, not bossy in a bad way, but bossy because you just know, and you're just like, come on, I know you're great, do it already, like duh. You kept saying duh over and over, like come on. And so, yes, yeah.
Allison (01:07:22.926)
We're here.
Erin (01:07:24.733)
I did boss Allison around to be my friend. I was like, you sit down and you be my friend now. So yeah.
Elizabeth (01:07:31.205)
That was the energy, that was the energy.
Allison (01:07:32.322)
That Erin has always led the soul, or she's always been like, this is what we're doing, and I'm always like, okay, and I always got the sparkle. I feel like.
Elizabeth (01:07:39.113)
Yes, yes, yes. That is how you came up, because Allison was very sparkly. So whereas you might be like earthy, Allison was very airy and very like movable, but you're like, okay. And you guys are like the twins holding hands and you guys are like walking around and you guys have a symbiotic relationship where like Erin, Allison will bring out like the sparkle and the lightness and the airy in you Erin. And then for you, Allison.
Erin (01:07:39.669)
It actually is very true. That is how we work together. Ha ha.
Elizabeth (01:08:08.053)
Erin kind of grounds you and brings you back down to like focus and the mission and the bullseye basically. So you guys bring out in each other like the opposite qualities, which is beautiful. You guys are like puzzle pieces fitting together. Erin, you were telling Alison you showed up as your 10 year old, nine year old Sal from like fourth grade and you were pushing.
Erin (01:08:31.689)
There I am in the picture!
Elizabeth (01:08:33.897)
You were pushing Allison around. Allison, you showed up when you were about, you're probably like six, and between like, I would say four and six, and you had a little stuffed animal bunny rabbit. You had like overalls, striped shirt, your hair was down, and um...
Erin (01:08:50.749)
used to dress like that all the time.
Allison (01:08:53.906)
And I think I know what bunny rabbit you're talking about. I did. Yeah. Oh my gosh, that's crazy.
Erin (01:08:55.517)
I know who had one! I remember! Oh my goodness, okay that's so cool Elizabeth. I'm sorry, this is amazing.
Elizabeth (01:09:05.457)
So,
Allison (01:09:05.48)
Oh wait, and actually, hold on, can I tell you, I was wearing, now that I think about it, I was wearing a striped shirt in my kindergarten picture, school picture, which I would have been like five, yeah.
Elizabeth (01:09:13.181)
How cute. Aw. So it's interesting.
Erin (01:09:16.857)
Was there any bucket hats involved? Because Allison was also a big fan of the bucket hat. She was so stylish.
Allison (01:09:22.53)
Okay.
Elizabeth (01:09:23.005)
How cute. I definitely saw like the striped shirt and like, oh no, I think I'm dropping out again.
Allison (01:09:31.606)
Let's give it a second. We'll let it catch.
Erin (01:09:34.525)
Oh man, there she goes. I'm so sorry I stopped her because I was freaking out. Oh my gosh, Alison, I know exactly what shirt she's talking about, that whole outfit.
Allison (01:09:43.37)
I do too. Oh, I know. It's like wild. And for reference, everyone at home, this is the first time that I've ever even like spoken to Elizabeth. So it's so funny. I had to even think about it. I was like, what? What was I wear? Like you actually remember before I did what I was wearing. It's crazy.
Erin (01:09:46.915)
This is wild. And...
Erin (01:10:00.889)
I was, yeah, that's crazy. Okay.
Elizabeth (01:10:03.261)
So what's interesting is that you guys show, so the inner child shows up based on like how the person is feeling. So Allison, you showed up as your younger, more vulnerable self because you're actually feeling vulnerable. And Erin showed up as her 10-year-old self because she's like, no, you got this. So you guys right now emotionally are in different places.
Um, and what was interesting is Erin through the picture, her first grade picture was like, I saw her pushing Alison, not in an aggressive way, but saying, Alison, come on, like you've got this already. Just do it. And Alison with her bunny rabbits, like, I don't know. I don't know about this. I don't know. And the photo's doing two things. The photo is getting Alison to that's Erin saying, wake up, Alison, wake up. And I keep, I keep saying like a fluttering to like get your attention.
Um, the other thing though is it's a, it's Erin's way of, or like Erin's energy, which you obviously Alison resonate with a lot of like getting you to remember to your playfulness. And so, um, the question is, you know, what were you doing when the photo would pop up and you had mentioned that you're in a place of transition and this actually popped up because
there's a huge feeling within you, Alison, of a lot of resistance. You're resisting something. There's something that you don't want people to see, and you, nope, you're just like shut down, closed off, there's a part of you that doesn't, and Erin sees it, and Erin's like, come on, wake up, just do it already, I know you're good, trust it. And so, the resistance is, let me see, here's what I'm taking, so.
There's resistance within you where like you're taking action of the next like you're taking the next step and you know, it's the right step your inner child knows that there is the right step, but like You're just like, I don't know about this. I i'm still not like sure 100 um And the message for you was like lighten up like lighten up And so what ended up happening was I asked your inner child if she could show me like your heart space Which is like your room
Elizabeth (01:12:19.537)
And she's like, okay, all right, come on. And she like gives me her hand and we're walking to the heart, you're carrying your bunny rabbit. And we walk into a room and it's dark. And that was when Erin was like, she's gotta lighten up. She's gotta lighten up. And then Erin, Alison ends up getting like a, like one of those light pulleys, like to turn on the light. And she turns on the light and it's a room full of crystals, crystals and diamonds and sparkles and shiny and.
Allison (01:12:35.022)
Thank you.
Elizabeth (01:12:48.229)
gold and the message is that basically Baby Allison was like, I don't know if this is enough and I was looking at her like, what do you mean? I don't know if this is enough. She's like, I don't know. Is this too much? And it's a whole room of like crystal and diamonds and like jewelry and abundance and like, and I'm looking around and I told Baby Allison like,
You got to open up a window and let the light in and let the sparkle and the only way for you To show your sparkle and your essence is to open up the windows. It doesn't mean you gotta like open up every your everything for the whole world to see or take but um The question for you to ponder is where were you told that your brilliance was too much? because it's time for you to open the windows and like to shine and to let all of that inner jewel and
sparkle and diamond show. And there's a lot of beauty with this symbolism because first of all, sparkle. You sparkle, but it's a beautiful play with the light. You have to let the light in. You can't keep your treasure in a dark room because they're never gonna sparkle. You're never gonna see that. So you have to be able to know that you are capable of this brilliance, but it's a beautiful play of light.
and to be able to let more of that in. And you are gonna shine, but there are ways for you to feel safe and protected at the same time. The other thing about light is, light is light. It illuminates, it cuts through the dark. It creates this like magical, almost like, how should I say it? It's like very piercing, and it creates this like magical glittering, alive quality.
which goes back to your book of it being very airy and playful, but it's very stimulating, and it's very activating, and it gets people like, whoa, with open eyes and wonder, let that happen. Let that sparkle come out. And then with the diamonds, I kept saying crystals and diamonds and jewels. Oh.
Allison (01:14:45.59)
We'll be back in a minute.
Allison (01:15:04.622)
Uh oh. Hold on, we're missing. Just let's give it a second. I'm taking notes like a mad woman. Yeah, I know, I'm gonna have to re-listen to this because a lot of this is really tracking. It's so funny too, even the sparkling things. I like to think that I spark other people and I help like light candles or like blow on them to like make the fires bigger for other people too. For sure, yeah.
Erin (01:15:08.581)
We're losing her again.
Erin (01:15:13.639)
Good thing we're getting this on recording.
I love this.
Erin (01:15:21.998)
Come on.
Erin (01:15:29.977)
But girl, you gotta spark it in yourself. You're sparking this. You're gonna be sparking. I love it. This is good. I want her to finish it, but this is amazing. I can't believe I showed you, I can't believe I showed up as my 10 year old self in that photo.
Allison (01:15:37.915)
Sparkling. Oh yeah, this is, this is some deep stuff. I'm like, oh my gosh. This is really.
Allison (01:15:50.126)
I can, I'm not surprised. I can't get this. It's so funny too, when those pictures showed up too, the energy I was getting was like.
Erin (01:16:02.111)
Allison, that's how I feel. My soul has been talking to you in this way a little bit.
Allison (01:16:05.325)
I Was like all right, well it was such a confirmation well, it's so funny too in terms of even the vault
Erin (01:16:09.381)
I'm like, yeah, you're amazing. You're my favorite.
Allison (01:16:13.174)
Well, or even it's so funny in terms of like, Erin and I think are coming into this magical moment of like really putting our brilliance together in this podcast too. And we want a lot of things to come out of this in terms of like groups and like, and eventually likely of co-partnership business, right? Which like a lot of people are like, that requires a lot of trust and a lot of open communication, which we have all those things, but to like be will, the vulnerability too of like even.
those commitments, right? And it was funny that was the moment when like her little face showed up. And I was like, of course this is the right move, obviously, right? Like, or even that question of like, even the eggs in the basket thing of like, where do you put your energy? And I was like, why do I feel pulled to put more energy into this than my own business? That's wild, right? I've been building a business for four years. And that was a big thing of like, do is this something to really lean into? And then again, like these, I always read them as confirmations of like, hell yeah.
Erin (01:16:46.183)
Yeah.
Elizabeth (01:16:56.734)
My mom.
Allison (01:17:07.766)
This is where the magic is. Cause we like, we are that yin and yang and the things that I miss at, like the things that my business lacks, actually Erin brings with her groundedness. Right. And then, and I like to think I helped sparkle her beautiful, very organized business, I bring the chaos.
Elizabeth (01:17:16.091)
Thank you.
Erin (01:17:19.273)
You do because I get too serious. I get way too serious and I have to call Allison and be like, listen, I am cap recording to the max right now and I need some Aries fire. Can you please give it to me? I know I'm like over analyzing, over stressing, over organizing, over everything. So thank God for Allison. Well, actually, yeah, we are going to Sedona. So it sounds like we need to buy some jewels.
Allison (01:17:38.37)
And I'm like, let's just go to Sedona and play. Let's just go.
Elizabeth (01:17:41.027)
I love it.
Elizabeth (01:17:46.272)
Mm-hmm.
Erin (01:17:47.245)
like crystals, diamond, gold.
Allison (01:17:47.508)
Go with some crystals. Go with some sparkle.
Elizabeth (01:17:48.847)
Some crystals. Mm-hmm, some things that like draw to you. It's interesting too that you say about like the Aries fire because part of the crystals is them being like so sharp. Like Allison, you can cut through crap. Like you can cut through things and that's very necessary obviously to like trim away the fat and like where people might be like doing too much. And so.
It's the same quality also with your Aries nature where fire burns away things. Fire, like fire, so for example, with Erin Capricorn-ing too much, you kind of do a little purification with your energy where it's like, all right, trim away all that, no longer needs to be there, let's get back to the root and the heart of what it is. And then Erin, your fire is like, your fire is actually the fire that keeps the machine running.
So with Alison, the fire is like melting away. Your fire keeps the Capricorn going and smashing through walls and everything, which is necessary. And so you guys are both motivated with this fiery energy, but it's used in ways that are very special to you. And what's interesting, Alison, is that the message, and you had said it, is that...
You want, you're drawn to what lights you up in life and what gives you that sparkle because you have that sparkle within yourself But that resonance and that connecting there's a fear that you're like, no, this is going to end badly This might have to do with like your conditioning and like, you know being productive and all of that and so Part of this exercise and I think the reason why erin is being like come on
not because she's pushing you for you guys to work together, but she's pushing you for you to trust, own, honor, and acknowledge that crystal divinity within yourself, because that's the magic, and Erin can see that. And so the photo's like, come on, come on. It doesn't matter, basically. If you guys work up together or don't work together, things happen. The first thing is that for both of you guys to be...
Elizabeth (01:20:03.191)
so grounded in 100% in who you each are that together you create 200%. Like a marriage almost, you know, it's not 50-50, it's 100-100. And so I think Erin, you know, is when her photo showed up, there is some contemplating to do to ask yourself, when did you decide that your brilliance was not, was to be hidden? You know, when did you decide if this is enough or not enough?
And also look back to when the photo popped up, what feelings and thoughts and emotions were going through you at the time, because there's probably fear and doubt there. And those fear and doubt is where you need to get honest with yourself of what you're truly afraid of, face them, and then they're gonna dissipate, which ties together with like everything that we've been talking about. And obviously you know how to do, so it's a good thing. It's a beautiful process.
Allison (01:21:01.694)
Yeah. Oh, this resonates. It's beautiful.
Erin (01:21:02.157)
This is like marriage counseling.
Elizabeth (01:21:06.448)
No.
Erin (01:21:06.853)
Elizabeth, you need to work with couples for sure. Everything you said is how I'm feeling. And I couldn't say it better, but in a good way. Like when I look at you, Allison, I see just like the most gorgeous, brilliant person. And I always have seen that my entire life. Like anytime you'd ever come to me and be like, oh, I feel this way, I feel that way. I'm like, what are you talking about? You're amazing, you're brilliant, you're beautiful. Like I just see this gorgeous, like golden.
Elizabeth (01:21:09.583)
We
Allison (01:21:10.022)
No, truly though.
Elizabeth (01:21:12.652)
I'm going to go to bed.
Erin (01:21:35.729)
aura around you. I just see like golden light when I see you. I don't see anything else. Like sometimes your face isn't even there. It's just golden light. It's really, you're really beautiful and shiny.
Elizabeth (01:21:44.091)
Hehehe. Hmm.
Allison (01:21:46.414)
Which, see, and this is so funny, because honestly, that has never wavered once our whole childhood too. Erin has always been like my rah rah. Like we joke about being like our little like do-loo-loo sisters who are like, I could be like Erin, I'm gonna be an astronaut. She'd be like, yeah, you are. Like, you know, like it just doesn't matter. Like always, and it's so funny. And it's like the only person who's ever come in with that much enthusiasm behind me, it's like Erin and my husband are like the two people who have like just that unmet, and they're actually very similar to us.
Elizabeth (01:21:55.471)
Thank you.
Erin (01:22:02.389)
No, you're going to be an astronaut, of course. Ha ha ha.
Elizabeth (01:22:10.939)
Hehehe
Allison (01:22:15.762)
It's like wild actually. And so it's like, so my initial marriage to Erin, right? But yeah, and it's funny too, because I think I've also always seen Erin as being this like power, like watch out, like watch out world. And the same thing of like, once you actually like let yourself be as like wildly powerful as you are, and allow other people to be triggered the hell out by it. Right? Because there's gonna be a lot of people who are gonna be like,
Erin (01:22:16.914)
Thank you.
Elizabeth (01:22:17.073)
Aww.
Erin (01:22:20.445)
other.
Allison (01:22:45.866)
What are you? What is this? I can't handle this, but there will also be other people that'll be like, yes, like let's go. Let's build the empire. Or like once you let the Capricorn rip and you're like, I made all the spreadsheets. I went crazy with this, but also the empire is being laid. Let's go. It's just so funny that I've like, even when she was like tiny, where like people are like, Erin's so quiet. I'm like, no, she's not. I don't know what you're talking about. Because like, there's always been.
Elizabeth (01:22:51.483)
Hehehe
Elizabeth (01:23:04.676)
Hey
Allison (01:23:13.898)
I've never been scared of you, but there's definitely something of like, when Erin says jump, you fucking jump, okay? Like first of all, she knows, she already knows. I already know she's right, but also you can't lie about the truth. And sometimes there's no saying no to Erin, but she's wise. She wields it, I think very, I don't know. She uses it all for good. Yes, very sweet, exactly, but powerful.
Elizabeth (01:23:20.28)
Yeah.
Elizabeth (01:23:23.429)
I love it.
Erin (01:23:30.234)
Ha ha!
Elizabeth (01:23:30.756)
I love it.
Elizabeth (01:23:36.667)
She's very sweet though. Yeah, I think you have the sweet package on the outside, which is great because I can relate to that is that the sweetness is necessary because even like, honestly, like you and I, Erin had our business like brainstorm last year, like in December, I think. And it took me forever to like.
Erin (01:23:43.397)
I'm going to go ahead and close the video.
Erin (01:23:59.617)
Yeah.
Elizabeth (01:24:02.271)
sum up the courage to write my newsletter, get my message out until just the other day. And I think you understand even though that, I think you understand like even though that like, you know, it's, you see the power in others, you also understand where they are and you allow them grace for that. I actually think the photo was you being more playful because you guys get each other on that like spiritual level. And so you guys can play that way, but it sparks Alison's remembrance of
Erin (01:24:08.557)
And it's beautiful.
Elizabeth (01:24:31.899)
playing and sparkle and that doesn't have to be taken so seriously. But like with others like strangers or other people not as close as you two, Erin, you have a very sweet and just graceful and honorable way of honoring where the person is, giving them the information, giving them that groundedness, and then understanding that it might not be right away, but in divine time, they'll wake up to it. So I think that's very beautiful.
Erin (01:24:59.841)
Oh, thank you. Thank you. Thank you for saying that because sometimes it can feel very uncomfortable for me to give those messages because usually I am like having to tell someone why they might be feeling uncomfortable or illuminate the thing that they are like literally trying not to do or hiding from. So I appreciate.
that you said that Elizabeth and I love your newsletter. It is so good and I did your meditation this morning and it was a gorgeous experience. So everyone needs to sign up for it. Yes, everyone sign up. Yes, tell us what they gotta do to get this premeditation.
Elizabeth (01:25:30.007)
Yay!
Allison (01:25:31.642)
Yeah, I want to sign up. Actually, can we just plug it now? Because I like I want to sign up for your newsletter. So please tell everyone listening how they can follow you.
Elizabeth (01:25:40.987)
Okay, so you can go on my website at ElizabethHuarez.com and on my website there will be a link where you can put in your email and get your free meditation. You could also go to my Instagram, which is BeYourselfEJ, which is my initials. Also get the link through there and put in your email for my free inner child meditation. Basically, the meditation came because I
believe that everyone can connect to their inner child and their inner brilliance without really needing a lot of things from the outside. Obviously there's like personalization and Taylorization, but to get yourself started, it can be free. So this meditation not only helps you connect to your inner child, but it teaches you how to create a practice where you can calm yourself, ground yourself.
so that you are in a prime place to be able to connect to your inner child. So I wanted to give that for free and let it fly out into the world if you're interested.
Erin (01:26:46.793)
Yeah, I loved it. I loved especially how long you spent on the grounding piece. And that aspect of it really helped me this morning, especially since I was definitely feeling ungrounded with all the crazy energy flying around.
Elizabeth (01:27:00.599)
Yay, I'm glad. It's my, you know, we're talking about like fear and putting yourself out there. That's my first freebie. My voice is on it. Like it feels so like intimate that for me to put it out there, I'm just like, oh, I hope it works and everything. It's nerve wracking, but exciting. And I'm so glad that you resonated with it.
Erin (01:27:20.589)
Yes, it's beautiful.
Allison (01:27:21.838)
and I'm so glad you put it out there because you truly just exude so much healing energy, Elizabeth, so please keep speaking, keep sharing. My guess is that you on an off day is still spitting crazy fiery truth. You know what I mean? That is going to, there's something as I've been talking to you that I feel like you're pulling the wool from the eyes kind of a thing. I'm like, just look at it. Don't be scared, just look at it.
Elizabeth (01:27:36.644)
lol
Elizabeth (01:27:47.712)
I'm going to go get a drink.
Allison (01:27:50.498)
Like just see it, okay, and honor it. I think there's something so beautiful of taking the fear out of the healing journey too. And bringing the playfulness to it too, because that's something I think even in my practice, part of the reason I kind of like stepped out of therapy, it just, I felt too confined. The Gemini in me was like rules, like what are all of these things that we're doing over here? Diagnoses, I don't wanna deal with this. I think it's a beautiful thing for a lot of people, but for me in my practice, I was like, I can't.
Elizabeth (01:27:57.216)
Yes.
Allison (01:28:16.754)
I need to play in a different space. And part of it was actually, I was like, I wanna have fun with my clients while they're doing hard things. I want us to laugh and giggle and get lunch and meet up with other people and go to yoga. And it was like this whole thing of like, I wanna have a party at Kiki, all this stuff together with all of my people, you know, and create communities and just like, like just bring the fun and the light and the, you know, all of those things while people are doing really hard things, right? Or like, or showing up and.
and busting through the fear and getting uncomfortable in the best possible way of like, let me just break out of my shell, right? And be more and more myself. Like, it's just, I think the bringing the playfulness and the safety to it, I think is really beautiful. I think you have an amazing quality to do that.
Elizabeth (01:29:01.475)
Thank you. Yeah, the playfulness, I always say play is medicine and play is like the highest form of research and play is magical. And there's so many things to that is because I think, you know, again, not knocking conventional therapy, but it is very much in a box. And after a while, I noticed that like, once you've done all the digging and you have the shovel, by you holding onto the shovel keeps you in the box. And sometimes you need to like get out of it.
And so when you're able to explore with your imagination, face things that are difficult, but as well incorporate the fun, you're able to, I don't know, bring this malleability and this flexibility for you to be able to adapt and be curious instead of judgmental and fearful. And so I think for me, honest, I mean, to anyone listening and to us, the very fact that we're here safe recording this podcast,
and whoever's listening is listening, they're safe. That means that all of the challenges, all of the times you thought you were gonna die, all of the things that you never thought you were gonna get through, you've gone through. You have faced so many monsters in these last 30, 40, 50 years, and you are right here listening to this moment. How can that not be a testament of your strength and ability to walk through the shadow, to walk through the fire? And so...
That alone, if I can hold people's hands and be like, look, the dark's not so bad. There's a lot of things we can do in the dark. I will walk with you through that shadow of the valley, but there's a lot of magic and beauty. It's the quantum field. It's the dark matter. And a lot of people think, oh, the dark matter's only science. That's something to be scared of, but I'm scared of the dark in my closet. The dark is a dark is a dark. It's all connected within reason and with safety.
but also there's a lot of room for exploration there.
Erin (01:31:00.757)
I find play is also a great way to connect with men. So if you're needing to kind of like heal or bring out the inner child, like a lot of times us women will be just very much like straight up about it. But I've also found like, or maybe this is just my marriage. What's more effective is playfulness. Like make a joke or like get out and go do an activity together and then talk about the thing you're gonna talk about. I just.
Elizabeth (01:31:04.323)
Yes. Oh, yeah.
Elizabeth (01:31:24.718)
Yes.
Erin (01:31:30.101)
I found that play is such a beautiful way also to connect with men and their inner child because they're often like spending, they're much more willing to like joke around with their friends and not take each other so seriously I've noticed. And so I don't know, I know you work with a lot of men in your, in your like nine to five job, even though, you know, have had a lot of experience with that. So
Elizabeth (01:31:43.685)
Mm-hmm.
Elizabeth (01:31:55.159)
I did. I used my 9 to 5 as my experiment basically. So what's interesting about play is play is actually a very feminine quality. So when us as women are in their playfulness, we're not nagging, we're not being their mom, we're being playful. We're being ourselves. There's no rules. We're letting go and letting loose. Men love that. Men love us being in our playful. So by you being in your energetic, a feminine...
Erin (01:32:05.874)
Hmm, interesting.
Elizabeth (01:32:24.351)
without having to ask your husband for anything, you in turn shift that energetic, where now you're in your playful, his masculine comes out and he holds you and he enjoys you and he supports you. Any issue that you might be having or challenge or tough conversation now has an air of playfulness to it because you guys are connecting, he's admiring your playfulness, you feel free and safe, and then you're able to come together, that's intimacy.
Allison (01:32:31.723)
Thank you.
Elizabeth (01:32:52.543)
that is connection. And that not only happens with your husband or boyfriend, that happens with friends, that happens with coworkers, obviously in different levels, but the energetics are always the same. And to be able to, that's the endearment as well. And you like breaking down barriers, because when you recognize the inner child in you, you recognize the inner child in others. And so that is you honoring your husband. And when you're-
husband feels honored and respected, because you're honoring yourself and your playfulness, it's a win-win, and that's how you energetically shift those relationships. So a lot of the times, I've had clients who are like, I wanna divorce my husband, he doesn't understand me, point the finger, point the finger, and a lot of the times it's like, well, let's get inwards first, let's allow yourself to open up your heart, take your heart out of that wounded box.
see how he shifts and then come back to me. A lot of the times there's a lot of magic created with that intimacy where it's a different partner. So I love that you brought that up because the Inner Child teaches so much about intimacy, vulnerability and connection.
Erin (01:34:05.445)
So amazing. I cannot wait for your podcast and you need to do a whole episode just on that. We need this.
Allison (01:34:06.642)
That is so profound. I mean, truly, I'm like, yeah, seriously, please start this podcast. ASAP. We want to listen to all of it. Yeah. Well, I think this is so cool because it's so funny. Like, this is sparking so many things for me too, I think in terms of even the way that I've thought about like how healing can happen, right? And again, like I love traditional therapy. I think it saves a lot of lives, never knocking it. But it is structured.
Elizabeth (01:34:07.384)
Yes.
Elizabeth (01:34:14.404)
Oh, yay!
Allison (01:34:32.898)
to me, I think of structure when I think of that. And with play, play is so unstructured and sometimes it's subversive. I'm actually gonna knock down a wall just for fun to see what's on the other side. It's like adventurous, curious, like it's an exploration. And my thought too, whenever, even as a traditional therapist, I really hated diagnosing people and putting people in boxes because I said, honestly, mental health is such a...
Elizabeth (01:34:39.438)
Mm-hmm.
Elizabeth (01:34:43.235)
Yes.
Allison (01:34:58.91)
a continuum, right? And I don't, first of all, I don't like to over pathologize like the human condition because humans suffer and we go through it like, and we journey and we do all this kind of stuff. But I was like, if I had to define like mental wellness or mental illness or mental unwellness, to me it's mental rigidity or emotional rigidity. Anything that gets really rigid and it crystallizes and you're stuck. And I can't tell even in a marriage or a relationship, I can't talk to so-and-so, I have these walls.
or I'm ruminating on this thing, I'm stuck in this little mindset and I can't break out of it. To me, that's where the worst suffering and dysfunction happens. And it's really when you break down walls and you just start to, let me just think about it from a totally different lens. Let me just mess around this week. Let me experiment. Let me play around. Let me just, what if this were true? Let me look at it from that perspective, playing around with all this kind of stuff with this concept of breaking down walls and exploring.
Elizabeth (01:35:41.489)
Mm-hmm.
Allison (01:35:54.766)
and not being fearful like a child, just like, I don't know, I'm gonna run around and chase butterflies and like look under rocks and look for worms and stuff. And like, it's all gonna be great. Like.
Erin (01:36:02.393)
That's literally the conversation me and my husband have when we reset our marriage. Like we've always had a great relationship, but we definitely were at a place like three years ago where it's like, let's just like reinvent this thing. Like we're at a point in our lives where we can just call the shots and figure out what we really want. So what do we want? Let's like lay it down on the table. And honestly, me, I was like, I just want unicorns and happiness all day. And I'm tired of trying to like be corporate.
Elizabeth (01:36:02.504)
Mm-hmm.
Elizabeth (01:36:13.767)
Mm-hmm.
Erin (01:36:28.917)
like 1000 over here wearing my like power suits and having to go on business trips because I really love to be home. So like how can I be home and cook you dinner and like put like be in the clouds doing creativity and seeing like rainbows and butterflies. How can I make that my existence? And same with him. He was like
I want you home, number one. And he had his whole list of things that he wanted too. And so it was really interesting when, I always tell people, literally sit down and have this conversation, because I think sometimes we can also carry from childhood so many different expectations of how we are supposed to be in relationship with someone. That's romantic, but also friendship. And...
Elizabeth (01:36:53.076)
Bye!
Elizabeth (01:37:17.647)
Mm-hmm.
Erin (01:37:18.425)
having the ability just to ask the person, like, what do you want out of this relationship or this experience can be so powerful. And I know you're gonna be surprised by what they say because I really wasn't expecting to say, you know, say the things that I said in that conversation. I wasn't expecting to say, like, I wanna just like chill out with rainbows and butterflies, but I do and that is what I do all day. I go into my rainbow castle.
Elizabeth (01:37:43.675)
That's beautiful. It's so interesting. It's so interesting too because like, Alison, you mentioned the mental rigidity. The mental rigidity comes from being, for lack of better words, sucked dry. So your inner child is connected to your authentic soul. It's four, five years old, so it hasn't really had the time to be filtered out in life.
Allison (01:37:47.418)
going to my remote control I love stomach
Elizabeth (01:38:10.915)
The soul, the essence, the magic, the play, that is all the juice of life. And so as you grow up and you realize that this juice of life is, you think it's not necessary, you just keep going and you get drier and drier and rigid and rigid and you get stuck. And so the mental illness, I'm not a therapist, but my theory is, is like a lot of the...
Anguish and a lot of the suffering is because we are not spending the time honoring who we authentically are and at the root of ourselves everyone is playful everyone has magic and sparkle and creativity and When you approach the wall analogy the walls of your heart Sometimes you can even go in meditation and you can tell your inner child like listen put on your hard hat and get in that little bulldozer that with the wrecking ball we're gonna
tear down that wall and we're gonna wreck it all up. And your inner child's gonna get all devilish and be like, yeah, destruction! But it's very playful and it's very like, yeah, let's do this, let's get messy. And we don't know what's on the other side, but you know what, we can always rebuild the wall. We could always, there's always ways to fix things. But a lot of the times with this imagination and this playfulness of like, today we're gonna.
Erin (01:39:11.171)
Hahaha!
Elizabeth (01:39:31.715)
We're gonna do something that we've never done before. We're gonna go outside and play in the mud. And your inner child's like, yeah, let's do this. So in the same way that you can get children in real life hyped up to do things, eat their vegetables, to do something that scares them with the imagination, it's a reshifting of what everyone's been telling you, all the conditioning that you've learned, and you're reintroducing malleability to the walls that you've built.
You're reintroducing that juice.
Elizabeth (01:40:05.943)
Oh, right. Okay. Yeah. You're reintroducing that juice and you're creating, you're remaking something flexible where before it was rigid.
Allison (01:40:16.994)
Oh, I love that so much. I mean, I think that all that comes back to, I think what all of us, like with our various kind of focuses in terms of like, you know, the businesses that we're building, but even just who we are as humans, right? How we show up. I do think that that's all of our mutual goals is like to bring the spark and the juice and that like, you know, and sometimes it doesn't, honestly, I feel like it doesn't always take that much to like blow a little life towards a sister or a brother or a friend over here. I'm like, let me just like.
Erin (01:40:41.305)
Uh-huh.
Allison (01:40:44.394)
like blow on your spark a little bit. And I think there is something about that in enabling each other to like, let it be fun and let it be juicy and give yourself permission and go a little wild and be a little rebellious against your own rules, first of all. Like I do think there's something about this that Erin and I always talk to you about like the, there's kind of a spiritual desert, I feel like a lot too with a lot of people of our generation where maybe some traditional religions like just don't feel like they fit the same way or, you know, people are exploring.
Elizabeth (01:40:56.922)
Yeah.
Allison (01:41:13.91)
But it's like, I think there's something too, when we forget that our spirit and our soul is hungry, it has needs, it has to be like acknowledged and met and nurtured, you know, fairly frequently, right? I mean, it's a huge part of us ourselves. It's like, oh, well, like every other month I journal or I go to yoga or I tap in or I think about that stuff. Like there is a part of that, like...
even in terms of finding the motivation and the flow and all that kind of stuff, so much of that comes down to our spirit and how lit up it is and how nurtured and how free it is, right?
Elizabeth (01:41:46.055)
Yeah, I think like, you know, what we're seeing today, as far as like conflict is that so many structures are not working anymore. You go to the doctor and you have these symptoms and the doctor is like, nope, you're fine. Take this medication and that's good. But you feel that no, something's not fine. But like, the doctor is outsourcing this healing power to the medication.
They don't really see you for 15 minutes at a time. Sometimes it's hard to get an appointment. Same thing with church. You go to church, you go to confession. Oh, I'm feeling anxious and I'm feeling so, I'm feeling this pain and I don't know what it is. The priest is just like, say five Hail Marys and three other fathers. And you're just like, but I'm not feeling better. There's this, everyone I think got conditioned to look outside of themselves and hand over their power.
to get the permission to then realize like, oh, you're okay and I'm gonna be fine. And what is happening now, I think, is there's no more place to run. There's no more places to outsource your power anymore because it's not working anymore. So people are trying to find different things. And so again, going back to this analogy of facing your shadow, there is bravery. Now the bravery and the courage and the heart is needed.
to face and go within because that's all what we're left with. There's gonna be a point where we're not gonna be able to run anywhere. We're gonna have to face ourselves or we can't, but I think that's part of this work as healers and intuitives and finding different ways because we know this, I think, and a lot of people are gonna be asking these questions because there's not gonna be any satisfaction. You think about the media. The media is like, no, you're crazy. You're not really feeling those things.
Allison (01:43:16.651)
Mm-hmm.
Elizabeth (01:43:37.375)
all the messages around is saying, no, you're fine, don't pay attention, that's not working anymore, that's only creating more conflict and that's going to come out. And it takes people who understand walking through that shadow, walking through that fear, to then grab your hand and be like, nope, you're okay, everything's fine, let's get you to a more grounded secure place and let's get you believing in yourself, no more outsourcing your power.
Allison (01:44:03.086)
in a minute.
Erin (01:44:06.914)
Mm, I love that. Amen, we.
Allison (01:44:07.082)
Oh, amen. I mean, I think to use your language, the power, the answers are in your enchanted forest, but you got to go in there, right? And like that's your Amazon or whatever. You're going to find whatever remedy and like whatever your dis-ease in your life that's creating all sorts of stuff, you know, like, yeah, the answers are within. Dun, dun, dun.
Elizabeth (01:44:14.627)
Yep. Yeah.
Elizabeth (01:44:27.464)
Mm. Yeah.
Erin (01:44:28.193)
I love that. Well, everyone, I hope everyone takes some time to trudge through their Amazon this week. Discover new flowers for us. Yeah. Oh man, thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you for this gift and thank you for taking time to go into our Akashic Records and take a look at what's going on because we were just so curious about like...
Elizabeth (01:44:34.495)
Explorer! An adventurer!
Allison (01:44:35.082)
Yeah, I find their enchanted forests and their fairies.
Allison (01:44:41.746)
Oh my goodness, this was amazing. This is just truly, truly wonderful to have you on Elizabeth.
Elizabeth (01:44:43.427)
Yay! This is fun.
Erin (01:44:55.457)
We know we've spent many lifetimes together, but what's going on? Like, what's showing up in there? So thank you so much, Elizabeth. It was so good to have you, and we're so grateful for your knowledge and your wisdom. And for anyone who wants to work with Elizabeth, we highly recommend it. Go to ElizabethWarris.com. You can also follow Elizabeth on Instagram. It's BeYourSelfie. EJ is her handle, and we'll link everything in the show notes.
Elizabeth (01:45:25.731)
Yay, thank you guys so much for having me. This was fun.
Erin (01:45:28.281)
Thank you.
Allison (01:45:29.77)
That was fun.
Erin (01:45:30.789)
Oh my goodness, I'm glad you had a good time.
Elizabeth (01:45:33.282)
Hopefully I didn't call Allison out too much, but...