Subscribe
Share
Share
Embed
The Conscious Collaboration Podcast brings together entrepreneurs, changemakers, and thought leaders. We aim to highlight the people who embody the idea of aligned mind, body, and business. Each week, we share, discuss, and learn from the various experiences and ideas of our guest experts. Through our discovery, we find a path to aligned mind, body, and business.
The conscious collaboration brings together entrepreneurs, change makers and thought leaders. We aim to highlight the people that embody the idea of aligned mind, body and business. Each week, we share, discuss and learn from the various experiences and ideas of our guest experts. Through our discovery, we find a path to an aligned mind, body, and business.
Emily:What up, guys? This is Emily.
Lisa:And I'm Lisa, and we are the Conscious Collaboration. How are you doing, Emily?
Emily:Hi. I'm good. How are you doing?
Lisa:I'm doing pretty well. Just pulling myself back together after these hurricanes and starting
Emily:to feel
Lisa:a little bit more in sync. And, but to that point, I brought a friend today. I brought friend. A friend. I brought with me today Gopal Brandigay, and he is a friend that I met at a wellness center opening.
Lisa:Gopal, we met in one of your small sessions. You were at the event representing, your, trade not trade, but in your in your line of work that you do with body contouring specifically. So we're really happy to have you here. As we connected at that event, I felt like our conversation was cut short, and there was so much more that we could, put together in terms of really listening to what people need out there today and how we can add value to help them become their best selves. And, so I'll let you explain a little bit more about what you do and your special, abilities and services.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:Thank you. Thank you, Lisa. And, thanks Emily for having me on this podcast. And so, yeah. So, you know, we we met, and I think it was like 2 months ago.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:Yeah. So we met this wellness event. It was one of those events where I think there was a PR firm. So they put a lot of us together that are local to the area. And I started saying yes to everything about 3 months ago.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:And I decided I'd do that for a year. So, that's where that came from. But I think there was that, that, event. Because I've realized, you know, being part of the community is more is a very important way for me to get the word out. And when the, and it's you introduced.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:That is you know, what I do is body contouring. I'm a surgeon. I focus on the body. It's kinda where I feel safe. So I don't which means I don't do anything on the face.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:That's kind of what what I mean. Okay. Doing stuff on the body. Okay. But anything to do.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:You know, shoulders to knees, that's the area that people come to me for, and the various techniques. And I found that surgery is my creative outlet. You know? And it took a while to realize that it's okay for me to view that that way because so many people just think surgery ick or surgery science. You know?
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:Mhmm. And I'm a very creative person, but I don't paint. And I don't, you know, work with clay. But it's the way I feel when I'm in the operating room. And, one thing I've always told people is if I could feel the way I do in the operating room, that's what I strive for during meditation because it's, like, the place that I'm in the flow, and it does not stress me out.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:It's where I regenerate. So so yeah. So I think that's it. That's just a little bit of, stuff about what I do and how I do this.
Lisa:I love that. I love how you put that into context, and I think that's really exciting how you're really in the flow and what you do and find that creative inspiration and outlet.
Emily:I too, I think is, somebody who who felt that way about it.
Lisa:Yeah. I think that's a very, connecting thing between the 3 of us as we're talking today about, you know, transformation and the creativity?
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:Yeah. Oh, absolutely. Because we all create in different ways, but that is kind of what spirit is. I mean, if we're all just trying to let it flow through us. And and I think that sensation of what you feel in that moment kind of tells you that you're in it.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:That because you're always looking, you know, you know, all these things about what's your purpose. How do I find purpose? How do and I think the only way you know that is this feeling. Mhmm. Feels like that.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:Yeah.
Emily:I, I relate to that a little bit because I I would feel the same way kinda doing wound care on on trauma patients, and I would always look at you know, I I did neuro neurotrauma ICU. So I would see a lot of these trauma patients come fresh from their trauma surgeries, and it was always so fascinating to see it really is an art form, like, how the different surgeons work, and you could kinda start to tell who who did what. You know? By the way, they would put somebody back together, and, I always thought that was just the the coolest thing. And and I imagine that there's a similar element to your specialty because it's like when somebody, you know, injures themselves, you really never know what what you're gonna get, what's gonna wind up on that table.
Emily:So you have to get creative in addition to, you know, all the the solid science backing you've got.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:Absolutely. You're absolutely right. And I'm a general surgeon by training, so you're right. So that speaks. You know?
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:The number of years we did trauma or cover emergency room call, was that. And I think over time so, you know, I've been out of training for, like, 15 years now. So over time, I think you start to narrow down your focus and start to realize what that is. But, and what's interesting though is as you meet other surgeons and you start to work with other people, you start to realize that's it's not true for everybody. Some people get very stressed in the operating room.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:And it's not like, it's like a thing. They need a drink after they Yeah. You know, that type of thing. And so it it so it's not the surgery that's doing. It's it's not surgery that creates being in the flow.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:I think it's just when the things align correctly, the right person, the right thing with throwing a little bit of confidence in, the skill set. And I think it allows you to
Emily:Yeah. And the dynamics of the collaboration, right, and how conscious the collaboration in the OR is definitely makes a difference, I would I would imagine with how that surgery is gonna go.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:Yeah. Yeah. No. Absolutely. I agree.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:And and we're constantly learning. I think in surgery, people often think you learned it, so then you're gonna repeat it. And I do think that's a there are surgeons that do it that way. They practice the medicine that they left training with, and it's safe. And it's like that.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:But we evolved. And if you leave training when you're about 30 and you're gonna work till you're about 65, well, you have 35 years here of advances that are coming your way. And I remember, I finished my training in 2009, moved down here at 1st job. Within 6 months, a patient I was having a conversation. And I'm very one of my specialty areas was working on, the esophagus on the stomach.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:And so I knew everything about that area. And this patient came in and said, oh, I've heard about this procedure. Do you do it? And this is 6 months coming out of TRIT. You know, I thought I knew what Mhmm.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:And so I didn't know what to do. I had never heard of the procedure. In my mind, I was like, I should know what you're talking about. Excuse myself. Went to the bathroom.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:Googled it. Looked it up. You know, came back. And but it taught me. And then, within the next year, I learned that procedure is the point.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:And that's what's interesting about surgery is that we do get to keep learning and a new technique. But learning outside of training is actually very difficult. Because it's easier to learn when you have the teachers all around you. And they're doing that. And you're operating on their patients.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:Here, you have to do it on your own patient in a very safe manner. And be honest with them about what you're doing, why you're doing it. It may be something that nobody's really doing a lot of, but it's what progress is. And so I think it's I think that's how you stay interested in what you do for a long period of time. Otherwise, it just gets old.
Intro:Yeah. Yeah.
Emily:Yeah. Can we talk about your sort of, your unique angle on body contouring and and plastic surgery?
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:Yeah. No. Absolutely.
Emily:That that we were getting into in the in the prerecorded because that that's that's the really good juicy stuff, I think.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:I'll try and recap. And so the, so what I was telling you was I went out in business on my own about 2 years ago. I was in a group with 9 other surgeons for the 13 years prior. And the the what pushed me to do it because I was leaving, like, a really high 7 figure job. It was, it was a real so it wasn't money.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:And I had made decisions based on money up to that. You know, saying, next job that pays well. And then Mhmm. And and was doing really well with it. And something pushed me to say, you know what?
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:I wanna do what I wanna do and be fully creative. But I want to feel like, I'm incorporating everything I do at home for myself, for my patients as well, and that there has to be a way to do. And I found a life coach. It was one of those he's, works with entrepreneurs type of people, and he really helped me put that vision together before I even quit my previous job as to what is it that I'm trying to create. And that vision was this.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:K. At home, I meditate. I eat well. I cook all my food. I go to a trainer.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:I do all of this aspect to it. And then, enjoyment or work wise, I enjoy the creativity of surgery and the aesthetic aspect of it. So I wanted to put those together. And what you find out there is when you start to see patients who are looking for, some body contour and some aesthetic aspect to it is that there's something that's not congruence, between the inside and the outside. That's kind of the terminology we often use.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:Mhmm. And it's true that they are congruent, that there's something not making sense. When they look in the mirror, it just doesn't make sense. Okay. And so you
Emily:So would you sorry to interrupt. Would you teetering on the spectrum of, like, body dysmorphia? Would would that be accurate?
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:No. It's Okay. The Dysphoria is its own thing. And so Okay. Not being congruent with one's body is a very valid, not psychologically named anything.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:And then there's dysmorphia. Body dysmorphia, I would classify something which is pathologic in some way and likely needs to be treated not through anything through the body, but treated probably completely through the mind. So I'm talking about just the normal person that walks in the door. Mom who had 2 kids who just doesn't look like she did before. That's just not who
Emily:she is,
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:you know, anymore. Or, you know, I mean, there is the classic weight loss patient too, who, you know, did the work, but the body's not showing it. And there's and that, I don't think, is body dysmorphia. I think it's just this I'm doing the work, and it just doesn't look Yeah.
Emily:That's fair.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:Yeah. Doesn't look like me. And Extra skin and Yes. Or diastasis. My core is not there anymore.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:These are things that are fixable with diet or fitness. Most of my patients are fit. Most of my patients are healthy. I'm not obese patients in general, you know, so we're working with people that already have those parts brought in. And, so you would think that if you just fix the body, then all of a sudden they'd feel complete, but that's not true at all.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:What often happens is have the surgery, have an amazing result. Let's let's I'm gonna make up a, patient like a guy. So a guy comes in. He's lost some weight. He has some, he he's never been comfortable on the beach.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:He always wears a shirt whenever he goes to the beach, and he comes in. We fix it. High definition liposuction, which is a specialty I have. So he has abs. He has a 6 pack.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:He's cut. Everything looks really good. And that same guy will often not go to the beach still and take their shirt off Because now they're focused on, do I look fake? Is somebody looking at me? This, that, the other.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:It's become this hyperfocus. And it's so common, and it's such a waste because people are investing such large amounts of money to get it, and and they don't get to enjoy it. And, so, that component I think a lot of surgeons recognize it. But the solution isn't to not do anything on the body. The solution is to recognize that that's a door into this world, and now let's explore it.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:And so we, mandate my organization, we mandate a mindset coach with any of these procedures. Any procedure that's over $10,000, have to work with our own coach. And people resist it because they don't get it. One session, they totally get it. And so we do one session before the procedure because I want them to know why are they choosing to spend the money.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:And I want them to be able to change their mind if they wanna be able to if they wanna change their mind Mhmm. Surgery, they absolutely can. We're not trying to, you know, we took your deposit and you gotta have the surgery. You know, that aspect to it. And so they go into the surgery knowing exactly what their goals are.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:And then they meet with him for 5 sessions afterwards. And it's just led to happy patients. They I have never had a patient tell me that that wasn't one of the best parts of their experience was Mhmm. And and so I feel like, I just feel really good about it because then you see the patient bloom. You see the patient go out there, do what they wanna do, and, enjoy what they just put their hard work and hard money into.
Lisa:Yeah. I love that so much. It's it feels very supportive, transparent on your part to work with them, to help them have expectations or to set the expectation, and then to really step in and feel, that they are full, inner and outer.
Emily:Mhmm. Was the mindset coaching piece of it something that you started with when you, when you started independently, or did you kind of see that as a need as you began your solo practice and and then develop that along the way?
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:It was something I started from the beginning, but there's a little bit of the story. I knew it was gonna it was what was going to be different. It was what I wanted. Mhmm. But even though I wanted it, didn't mean that I got to offer it.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:You know? There were funny story. I said I was gonna be an aesthetic surgeon and a psychiatrist when I was in 3rd grade.
Emily:Wow. Wow.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:And I was
Emily:That is pretty
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:I know. It's really funny.
Emily:Accurate for an 8 year old.
Lisa:Oh, maybe that was a past life thing too. I don't know what that would have been in a past life. But
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:And it shows that, you know, sometimes purposes can be that, That they can just show itself. And it was kind of funny, you know, to my parents. So that's why I said, I don't remember. There was a book I read and that there was a main character who did this, who was both. And that's when I said I want to do it.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:Surgeon part came. That had logical steps to go. But the psychiatric component, even though I was aware of it, it wasn't evident, and it wasn't part of my own practice. When I worked with this coach, when I was gonna go out on my own, I brought it up. And he happened to have that was one of the things that he had done.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:He had worked for a couple plastic surgeons and worked with those and worked with patients. So it happened to just connect. And so he was part of it. When I stopped when I started my business, I stopped working with him. And then I brought him in as a, as my mindset coach for all of my patients.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:But even then, in the beginning, it's a new business. You have these prices. People aren't buying. You start cutting things. So I cut I cut him out saying you could, you know, you could choose it.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:And I would cut the fitness out. That didn't end up working out well for me. I think, you you know, it's everybody told me you decrease your prices and all. It's not gonna lead to a better outcome. You knew what you wanted.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:And then a year ago, I was like, you know what? This isn't working. We're gonna go back to what the original vision was. This is the price. It's mandated all of this, and I've been really happy since, be able to do that.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:Yeah.
Emily:Yeah. So here's what I'm curious about. Now to me, the value of having this, psychological component is obvious Right. To me. But, you and I'm a little surprised, with you telling me about the kind of resistance, you know, from from the patients and stuff.
Emily:But, just out of curiosity, is there is there has there been research done on this that can show, like, you know, better outcomes of some sort with with the psychological component?
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:But we think what the there there's clear research on managing stress during an op in the operative Oh,
Emily:yeah. Oh, yeah.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:Much better outcomes. And I think that's the way I have to draw from a little bit because there hasn't been anything this specific because I don't think it's not common. But I do believe that their a slob of this lever. I think the Yeah. The fear of why they're doing it, that hyper focus on like, I just did the surgery.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:1 week later, we're taking the dressings down. If you don't have this in your mind, you're hyper focused on everything that looks weird, and these are all just standard post op stuff. And so Mhmm. I think the stress of it, is what proves that they heal better and they do better because they're able to.
Emily:Mhmm. What do you think the, what do you think the resistance to that is? Do you think it's because they don't want, like, they don't want somebody to tell them they can't have the surgery kind of thing? Or what where do you think that comes from?
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:I don't know if it's that. I think a lot of people just think I don't need that. Or they view it as I'm instilling therapy on them. And it's and I've never and I really try to work with what the wording was or what coaches trying to come up with something that didn't have resistance. And I had done, like, life guide or life coach or this and the other, and and this is what he liked to be called.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:And I never found it. But I think people think you're making them go through therapy, and there was Mhmm. That. And it's not therapy at all. It's not a Mhmm.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:Sit on the couch situation.
Emily:Right. Right. Yeah. I don't know. I just I'm like
Lisa:I like it. A benefit to that. Yeah. I think it's such a great well, to to do this work in Tampa Bay specifically, I think it's a great area to have this unique service, and I think that's what people are looking for. It's it's hard and it's scary to read through things in a contract in a medical setting Mhmm.
Lisa:And not fully understand it. But when you have something like mindset coach, and I think this area is full of, a certain mindset that instills meditation, yoga, and they desire that mindset piece. So I think it's perfect. But when you add that component, it makes the words really easier to understand. It takes out that context that might be something where it triggers fear or hesitations.
Lisa:What did I decide my life away for? On the flip side, you know, and I think Emily and I both deal with this in our practices too. In working with mindset, a lot of people do see that as like, oh, that's an extra or you're adding that on, so is that adding to my price kind of aspect to it? So they want more context around it for you to explain why that's a holistic part of your practice. And it really does make sense.
Emily:Mhmm. Absolutely like that. Yeah. I think, maybe you talked about it as like a success, success guide or something. But, yeah, that's so interesting to me.
Emily:I would, you know, I would think it would build levels of trust to, like, okay. This person, you know, wants me to be sure about this whole thing. They're not just trying to take my money and, you know, they want me to be successful from from the beginning to the end.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:And that's why we initiated this one starting pre op because it does do that Mhmm. Session. It doesn't Mhmm. Mhmm. One session, but it does do it before the operation.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:So that's how we came up with this slot, this timing of, okay. I see why he did it. I see what it they're more relaxed about it. And you can tell. You can I mean, you know, we can tell body energy?
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:And you can tell they walk into the, the day of surgery just relaxed. Because they they chose to be there as opposed to, being forced by external situations or whatever. Yeah. So yeah. Yeah.
Lisa:I think that's good too just to have, another expert there or a patient to talk to because I don't know about you guys, but sometimes, like, especially with a surgeon or someone I look so highly up to their advice and their standards, I like, much like an artist, I don't want to insult them or, like, ask extra questions. You know, it's it's twofold there because I look so highly esteemed. I don't wanna, you know, be insulting or, you know, anything of that nature. But if you have a mediator there
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:Yep.
Lisa:To soften the edges, I think that would help people like me that I mean, I could see myself being like, oh, well, he really knows what he's doing, and I have the hesitation, but it's going to be a dumb question, or I'm going to insult him if I ask him why this or how that, or that I have questions around how something is healing. But so I can see that being just a really great collaboration that you've pulled together as a part of your system, that ends up really beneficial to you and everybody on the other side on the table as well.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:Right. I agree with you. I think patients do not feel comfortable telling you anything, and they they feel exactly like you just said, that I can't say that to him. He knows what he's doing. And what I found is they they do tell everybody else.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:Right? They'll tell either my staff member. They'll tell the lymphatic therapist. So we include everything. The minute you Yeah.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:Come with us, you are gonna get everything, even postoperatively that you're supposed to have. You're gonna get your dressing shipped to you. You're gonna be mandated. I call it mandating because they do try to pull out of it. But a nurse is gonna take you home.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:They're gonna stay overnight with you. They're gonna call me in the morning.
Emily:Oh, wow.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:They're, gonna give you protein shakes and tell you how to nutrition wise, they'll cook your first breakfast. They'll do all of this because it's all part of the experience. And the lymphatic massages are part of that too. So they're included too. 12 lymphatic massages.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:So this way, my goal is you don't put another penny out and that you don't feel nickeled and dived after the procedure. That's kind of what
Emily:You're not Spirit Airlines. You know what it makes me think though? Like, I I I think we've just created this culture in medicine where people expect a depersonalized sort of cattle call type experience because that's what they've experienced. So when it when you start to talk about mindset coaching and a nurse a concierge nurse and lymphatic massages and stuff. It's like, wait a minute.
Emily:What? Like, what what did I sign up for? Right. And yeah. Yeah.
Emily:Wow. That's
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:And so each of these touch points contacts me, and you're right. Mhmm. They are the ones who they complain to. You know, what about this swelling? What about that?
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:Luckily, you know, you you're working with people who are very educated, so they they filter a lot of this and assure. But there are things that sometimes they don't know and they send us pictures. And I found that it's just best for me to call them. It's best for me to call a patient and say, so and so told me to have this, and this is what we're going to do about. And it it's the circle.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:It's that it's it's what a team can do that a singular person
Lisa:can do.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:It's what Yeah. Do alone.
Emily:And really more how medicine should look, in my opinion. You know what I mean? I I love that. So cheers to you for doing your part to kinda change the the way it's delivered. You know?
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:Yeah. And what's fun about it is in a way, since it's not delivered that way, when you do, that is you stand out. Right? And so
Emily:Oh, yeah. You're the wow factor.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:When you do it, but it happens to be the reward anyway.
Emily:Mhmm.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:And I think people the trust is built after the surgery here, of the length of time. Because you often Mhmm. Oh, I didn't realize I was gonna see you today, or I didn't realize I was gonna see you this many times. Or, you know, all of that type stuff. So it speaks to what you said, which is the expectation is so low that, that you could, you know, that
Emily:you want.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:Be different. So that's good. Yeah.
Lisa:Oh my gosh. Yeah. Well, it really shows that you are living in your element and your purpose. That's so wild that you even just put it out there when you were a child that you
Emily:wanted to
Lisa:be living. So specifically. So specifically. And then to and then for your parents to be encouraging of that and not dismissive of it. And here are all of the elements of your life added up to what you're doing today in an even better way than you could ever imagine.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:That that really amazing. Okay.
Emily:Yeah. I was just gonna ask, are you are are you at the pinnacle or or, you know, where where does it go from here?
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:Oh, yeah. There's room for, because, yeah, you go out. It's I've only been out on my own for 2 years. So all the stuff that, has been taking up my mental space has been that new business stuff, which was more. So, therefore, people management, people hiring, dealing with that.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:And it actually does tire me out, that stuff, because that's not I don't I haven't flow in that yet. Yeah. But I have found a lot of push towards spiritual growth and all of that aspect of it. Because when you're in the flow, you don't have really a negative mirror, you know, that type of thing. So, therefore, these kinda come out.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:And so been focused on that. No. I think, you know, I have a good another 15 years in me for sure, maybe 20. I just I'm 49 now. And so, the no.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:I think the sky's the limit. The dream is big. I would like to really flush out the other aspects of complete fitness, complete nutritional education, complete mindset, all of that because those interest me so much. The dream has always been to own some land in Maine with, like, these retreat homes there, and people that are experts in their area kinda give jobs and do it that way. I don't know how you tie these all together, but you know what?
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:I think that they're they will tie themselves up in their own life.
Emily:Full blown sort of transformation experiences. That's right. Love that.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:I love that. I think
Lisa:I wanna have a hut in your property.
Emily:I'm gonna say, give me a call.
Lisa:We'll do the, you know, all the transformation. The function way,
Emily:half the price of it. We got you covered.
Lisa:I love that.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:What you were leading to earlier about the you know, from 3rd grade and this, that, and the other. I think in the last couple of years, I've started to see the connections where prior to that, very scientific, very logical brain, you dismiss them as cool coincidences, versus, universal support. And it's not, yeah, it it I think it's been a big eye opener about what does a dream mean? What does manifestation mean? I've resisted a lot of those words previously.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:Because to me, station was begging, was begging something for something, and I didn't think that word or anything like that. But now I'm realizing creating a vision, accepting it, putting the work in, and reassessing. Because sometimes it's not what's supposed to happen, and
Emily:sometimes
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:it is. But you have to be a little you have to start to trust some intuition, which went against everything I was taught, as to am I in am I in alignment with the growth in my community, or am I not? And when you're a year into something and it's not making money, you start to question it. But I think these are the things that come out of it.
Lisa:Mhmm.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:Yeah.
Lisa:Yeah. I love the entrepreneur mindset. And, you know, I and just how many times you can reinvent yourself, and it makes us young. I mean, I know we feel old sometimes as entrepreneurs because of all the stressors and and some of the weight that we carry when we're creating something and the attachments that we're constantly fighting with. But it keeps us young at the same time.
Lisa:It's that you know, Emily and I talk a lot about the element of youthful folly and what that adds to creation and strategy and just having that experience of there's no glass ceiling here to what we're creating. If you have that mind of a child and that sense that you can create anything. But it is definitely something that unites entrepreneurs and visionaries and changemakers and thought leaders is that courage to face the unknown and to wear your your system that you're creating so bravely and putting it out there.
Emily:Mhmm. And to utilize, like you said, those those, highly stressful new entrepreneur moments as opportunities for personal growth instead of just to sit there and wallow in in your extreme stress. And I think we've done whole episodes about this, you know, using that, that entrepreneurial challenge and all that is presented to to really just, propel yourself as a as a person and then utilize that personal growth to propel your business and and help, you know, all the all the people you are put here to help.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:Mhmm. Right. Because you start to realize that that entrepreneurs are creative. It's just it's not the classic creativity. It's not always artistic, but it is creative.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:Otherwise, they keep doing it. I mean, you can't put that much attention on something otherwise. You know? Yeah.
Emily:Yes. And we definitely need some some creativity and innovation within the medical system and the way that medical care is delivered.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:Absolutely.
Emily:So that we're actually helping people and moving them forward and making them healthier instead of just managing Yeah. Sickness. Right?
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:Absolutely. I think, you know and I think you also said this earlier. In today's world, we are finding people who are experts in 2 of those or 3 of those. And so they all are creating unique methods of delivery, which is way more encompassing to the whole person. Similar to what I'm doing with surgery.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:But that does you know, somebody else is going to do it in whatever field, psychiatry. I remember one of y'all's guests had talked about that, who was a psychiatrist. And so,
Emily:you can
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:see how that works when somebody brings that mindset to it's not something we can be taught. You know? So it's not like you can change medical school, I don't think. I think medical school was meant to be taught.
Emily:It takes a while.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:It was meant to
Lisa:be taught.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:It was meant to do that. But like, if you view the world, science is like this big here. And then the emotional world is this big here. But the science world is in that there, You know? Mhmm.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:The spiritual world is this big here, but they're not 3 separate circles. They're just No. The other. Right. And they're just more expansive.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:So they there's nothing nonscientific about intuition or something nonscientific about spirit. We just haven't proven those things in a material way yet, even though we seem to be doing it all the time. You know? Like, 1 by 1 every year, we find another connection. So yeah.
Lisa:What came to mind to me while you were speaking and we're talking about systems changing and the need for change and everything revolutionizing is yes, medical school needs to be medical school, but someone like yourself, who's, who's going to be spending years creating a system using different methods to to benefit everybody, I could see there being some sort of post grad or apprenticeship work where you would be leading and helping others potentially. Because I'm sure there's people, there's listeners out there that are hearing you speak and thinking, wow, I could really, you know, I really admire what Gopal's doing. Can I do that for myself and my system? But there's that, you know, you having the bravery to create what you're doing could pave the path for others behind you.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:No. You're right. And that'd be great. And it is us just each of us doing it in each field. And right now it feels new or early.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:I always say I'm an early adopter. I'm not that I'm not that first person who experiments on people, and you have to have those people. I'm just not that person. But I'm that early adopter type. And I think, you know, you are similarly, with regards to it.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:So recognizing that, yeah, you're right. I shouldn't simply say medical school has to be left alone. There's room for, exposure as to how to incorporate these other aspects?
Lisa:Yeah. I think the real magic we feel in the field is in the application, in the environment. You know, and I know in medical school, you're, you're actually doing on your application within that. But as it relates just to entrepreneurship overall, and and being able to create the sense that maybe one day it could be taught
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:Right. Right.
Lisa:As more of a standard. There's a lot of value in that. I really was, I am impressed by you and what you bring, and I love that. Are you still saying yes to everything? Is that through the end of the year?
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:No. It's that started at August, so I have a ways to go. Because I was so focused on, the, like, social media or the just the logistics of running the business that I didn't feel like even people, my neighbors here in town knew that I was there, that I moved out, that I was, you know, here. So, I think that's been the next stage is getting out there, getting to know the community, and Yeah. Letting the community know me as well.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:And so
Lisa:Yeah. Finding your people.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:Because patients are probably my number one referral, but I should also get out there and let other people in my space know what I'm doing.
Lisa:Well, I think, and our listeners will agree too. You're you're great to talk to. It's great to get your message out in podcasts and other media. So I hope this is just the first and many times you're you're able to introduce yourself and and share your method. What is your, you know, I'm sure too, you when you meet your your patients, they're they probably have similarities in common, that make them unique.
Lisa:And what is that, you know, unifying, or can you name some qualities of, people who are best suited for you that you find and so they can find you?
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:Yeah. So I think, you know, we said earlier, most of my patients are, or maybe I did, maybe I said this earlier, that my
Lisa:patients
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:are fit. There are fit individuals who are, nutritionally, they're interested in their own nutrition, they're interested in fitness. We can always improve, right? I mean, we can always improve all of those. But the ideal patient recognizes that they have a part in it also, and it's not just the surgery.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:So I'm not gonna fix everything with my scalpel, but that I'm a component of it. So that's the ideal patient. The common thread amongst patients is that they're coming in very vulnerable, because they've decided to make that decision to come in disrobe, show me what their, insecurities are and, ask for help, to get back to where they feel they should be or what they are, you know, that aspect of it. And I think that's the door. That's the door that my patient, that's the common thread amongst it as opposed to the patient that comes in that's not vulnerable at all.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:And that it's more of a demanding you to give them X, which is that that type of patient is gonna come in with a picture that says I wanna look like that. Where the patient that is ideal for me is a patient who is not doing that. They're just trying to be the best version of themselves right now. And that's what I can help with. I can help get you be the best version of yourself, whether it be health wise, fitness wise, external appearance wise, internal, mindset wise.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:That's what we do.
Lisa:Yeah. Someone who has autonomy and and comes in with a contributive, perspective and ideas. That that's very similar to my clients and to Emily's as well too. It's not the client that comes in and says, here's this HGTV show I saw, and here's the Instagram story, and I want my house to look like this.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:That's right.
Lisa:I want my house to look like Oprah's house. It should be, I want to look like my best self. I want to live in my best unique environment because this is how I live. So, yeah. Gosh.
Lisa:I think I just cooked up a collaboration for us all. Yes.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:Because you'll see, you know, there are these there's I'm not gonna name places in the world, like the actual countries, but there are countries in the world where they do great surgery, but it is a cookie cutter look. So if you look at their Instagram page, every nose looks the same. Mhmm. Took one apart. It looks that person looks good.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:It's not their nose, but they all look the same because they've gotten really good at creating that specific nose on them or creating these abs on so and so, something like that. Weird. When we're trying to create the best version of oneself, every outcome looks different. Like I did a mother on this past Friday, And I intentionally left a nice layer of fat on there because that's who she is. She's a very feminine, herbaceous woman who embodies being a mother.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:Not fit you know, not like if I gave her a 6 pack
Emily:Shredded. Yeah.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:You don't wanna look like her. It's not who she is. And so I think that's the part of what we're trying to do. You wanna wanna give some of the best results, not the picture that they can. Yeah.
Lisa:Yeah. So, Gopal, is there any other insight that we might have glossed over or Emily and I got excited and and interrupted you that you would like to share with our listeners?
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:I think it's, there's always stuff more to talk about.
Lisa:There's always stuff. I feel like we could talk forever.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:What's interesting is the amount of men that are coming in, you know? And so, everybody was telling me, yeah. You know, the statistics don't say that. But, clearly, it's true, that it's becoming way more accepted. And the which I think it should be.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:I mean, I think
Lisa:Yeah.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:Why is it okay for everybody, every woman to get a breast implant, but it's not okay for a guy to do anything? You know? There's are there's way more natural looking in a way. They really don't wanna look like they had stuff done. But it's becoming way more acceptable.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:And so
Emily:Maybe something about your approach too that, you know, is is energetically attracting that, be because you're probably at least indirectly addressing some of these things in the mindset coaching, piece of things. Yeah.
Lisa:Yeah. Yeah. I really hear that, just and I've experienced that. We live in an area that's, you know, heavy with people doing body modification of some way or enhancements. And I think there's sometimes a lot of shame in that for people.
Lisa:And, and I think you're right. I think, for the men in the community, you don't hear about it as much. Like I can, I can sense, you know, and shame being a very low vibration as well too? But to Emily's point, I think you bring a really, like, reassuring and, you know, reinforcing. This is something that's very beneficial to you to be your best self
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:Mhmm. So
Lisa:that you feel like you look like how you feel on the inside. Mhmm.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:Absolutely. And it makes us happy when we see because all our patients, you know, become friends or followers on social media. So then you can see them starting to post themselves on the beach or this, that, the other. And the minute you see that is the minute you know that it all the 2 worked out together because they're enjoying it and they're able to, share their joy in that kind of forum. Well, then, you know, they've got they're confident and comfortable.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:And so,
Emily:and Which I think is awesome and contributes to the collective, and I always encourage, you know, my clients to share their wins big and small because then it gives because, you know, they say you you never know who's watching you. Right? And somebody could be watching you for 2 years and and never even say anything, but it gives other people permission to do the same.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:It does. It does. And that's exactly so yeah.
Lisa:Oh, I love that. Thank you so much. I think that's really important to speak about. And, when we had doctor Carlos Garcia on as well too, he he did talk a little bit more as well about the men and and serving the men in the community seem to be often forgotten because women are the ones that have that vulnerability usually to say, like, I need help with this or this is what I desire. And, and but I feel I think you both might feel too that now men are really feeling like that.
Lisa:It's okay to ask for help in something and be vulnerable about not being completely happy with something, and to ask for help from experts.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:Mhmm. Absolutely. Yeah. Because women's health was always, you know, lower. I get that.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:But now Yeah. Health with regards to I mean, it's not okay to be obese. It's not okay to be, you know, to have all of the cardiac risk factors and all of that, which has been normalized for men.
Lisa:It has been. Yeah.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:So men's health is an issue too, for sure. Yeah. Mhmm.
Lisa:Yeah. I'm glad that you brought that up too. It's just, you know, as we look at the way, I think, you talk about normalization of some unhealthy habits, health habits, and that type of thing too. It's almost like we're we, filtered ourselves so much in protecting and not offending people that we've become comfortable with, especially in America, I'm saying. Absolutely.
Lisa:You know, that we should want better for ourselves and to help each other.
Emily:We overcorrected a little bit in some A
Lisa:little bit. Yeah. We did. Yeah.
Emily:Like, yes, everybody should love and accept themselves and be loved and accepted, you know, no matter where they're coming from and exactly how they are. And what is true at the same time is that, you know, no. You cannot in fact be healthy at any size or at any in any metabolic state. You you you know, there's there's some things to be considered taking care of yourself, that that, you know, are not all about appearance by any means, but certainly can result in in certain appearances.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:Yeah. And acceptance and love has to start with the individual. And what acceptance and love are, is not just, a I need to do no work, kind of.
Emily:Mhmm. Right. Right. Right.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:So, yeah, that's just coddling oneself, you know, and that's not what we're talking about.
Emily:Enabling. Yes. Yeah. Yeah.
Lisa:Gosh, I feel like we could talk to you forever. I hope we can have you back, for another conversation. I wanna make sure that we add your links into our description so people know where to find you. But, if you want to share with listeners, the best way for them to contact you today would be
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:Yeah. Absolutely. Thank you. Yeah. So 2 two ways.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:The, websites, you know, has all the pictures and everything like that. And my company is called Formation. So it's www.formationmed.com. And then if you're on social media, at formation Tampa is, is the hashtag thing for us. And so we're all active on Instagram and Facebook.
Lisa:Excellent. And we're gonna invite you inside of our closed and private Facebook group. If you are active on Facebook, our listeners are.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:Okay.
Lisa:But we invite everyone out there. If you have questions, for Gopal, to ask about his practice or, you know, to connect with him further, we're happy to put that together. And, it's it's a conscious collaboration collective. It's closed and private, so it's invite only, filtered in. So it's a safe space to ask questions and to connect with each other, collaborate, so on and so forth.
Lisa:But I wanna thank everybody for listening today, and thank you, Gopal. I'm so happy and grateful that we connected, and I know this is just the beginning of, more connections and more of getting you out there in the work that you do. And, there's just so many crossovers.
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:I really appreciate it. This is the this is the proof to me of why saying yes is important.
Lisa:Yes. You
Dr. Gopal Grandhige:know, getting to meet y'all. And, thank you so much for having me on the podcast. I really
Emily:appreciate it. Love it. Alright, guys.
Lisa:Well, I'm going to, close it out. And listeners, we will talk to you in 5.
Emily:Talk to you in 5.
Lisa:Bye.
Emily:Thank y'all so much for listening to our podcast. If you haven't yet, please be sure to subscribe, rate, review, and share with all your friends so they can join our circle of collaboration on this journey. You can find us on Instagram at conscious collaboration podcast on Spotify, iTunes, and Audible to name a few. Please join us next time for another deep dive into how you can live life in more alignment, mind, body, and business. Send us your questions and comments in our DMs or email us at conscious collaboration podcast atgmail.com.
Emily:See you in 5 minutes.