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what is going on everybody
welcome to thursday night
crossfit talk the original
thursday night crossfit
show we are here live again
as we are every thursday
night uh so good you could
so glad you could be with
us um it is the start of
the season opening day it
all started off today but
we have a lot to talk about
And I don't know what order
we're going to do it in.
Notes are in what order,
but I'm leaving it up to
you guys how you want to
kind of do this rundown.
How have you guys been this week?
Oh, and we have Carolyn Prevo with us,
who we're hoping will be a
regular contributor to the
show throughout the season.
We're putting that in her
court because I know she's
a busy athlete and teacher,
but we love her input.
And when you're on the comments,
ask for you to keep coming back.
Awesome.
I'll try to do as many as I
can on Thursdays.
So we, yeah, I had, I had a good week.
Um, Tuesday here was like 70 degrees.
It was insane.
Um, went outside for a run.
It was just gorgeous.
And then.
That night it dropped to
like 20 and terrible storms
like hail and lightning.
And then it snowed on Wednesday.
So it was great.
Yesterday was freezing again.
And it was still pretty cold today.
So yeah,
just that normal Michigan weather.
Yeah,
I got up for my procedure Wednesday
morning,
and I woke up to text messages
from my nephew who lives
west of Columbus asking if we were okay.
Yeah.
And I'm like, what are you talking about?
And he goes, you didn't get the storms?
They apparently went right
around us in Columbus.
Oh, my gosh.
And Julie and I didn't wake up at all.
We slept right till six
o'clock before I had to go
to my procedure.
But apparently they got hit pretty hard.
So the tornadoes may have touched down.
Wow.
It's been really windy here
the last couple of days in Toronto.
Yeah.
So glad that they kind of went around us.
That was a stressful morning anyway.
Didn't need to add anything
to our plate that day.
And how are we doing now, Scott?
So yesterday I felt great.
Finished the procedure.
Felt like a million bucks all day long.
And then I'll show you.
I went to bed.
I woke up at 1 o'clock in
the morning last night.
And I will show you why real quick.
Uh-oh.
So I don't know if you can see that.
That is where they shocked
me and it burnt my skin.
It looks like you tanned
with like you had like a
cell phone or something on you.
So that splotch started to
hurt at one o'clock in the morning.
Itchy or hurting also?
Was it itchy at all in the brain?
So the same one is on my back.
So they had a pad on my back
and a pad on my chest when
they shocked me.
The one on my back is itchy.
The one on my chest hurts.
So I don't know why the difference.
But we were digging around
in cupboards looking for
aloe last night at 1
o'clock in the morning.
We found some.
It seemed to make it a lot
better at that moment,
and it's been better today.
My back is super itchy,
but the front is – the chest is okay.
You need one of those, like, scratchers.
Lex got me one.
It's like a long scratching stick.
Those are the best.
Those are the best.
It interrupted my sleep,
and then I went to work,
and now everything is
flushing out of my system.
My heart is pumping right,
so now it wants to get rid
of all the toxins.
So my sinus is filled up today,
and I've been blowing my nose all day.
And it just kind of stopped now,
right before we went on the air, which is,
thank goodness for that.
But I still feel a ton better.
It's just I've got to get
over these little hurdles
of recovery to kind of get
clear of it all.
last night I i did the the
interview with ariel and
then I went out and met uh
prospective sponsor which
I'm wearing uh one of their
items now and I don't know
if you can see the the cool
little logo with my name
under it um it's thick boy
they are at the arnold they
are right across the aisle
from rogue so it's a great place uh
and uh yeah so felt great
last night and then all
that today just trying to
get through everything and
then hopefully tomorrow
we're past a lot of this
fingers crossed are you
gonna go by the arnold at
all or uh I'm gonna try
Because I walked today a little bit,
and it's not my lungs or my heart.
Man,
my muscles are so sore just from the
inactivity, like hips, back.
So I'd like to get moving a
little bit more and at least go down,
maybe get a couple interviews in.
I know Charlie's going to go
down tomorrow and try to
get some interviews there
from different athletes.
Jamie's going Saturday.
And then Sunday,
maybe I'll go in because
Charlie's actually
competing in the pump and run on Sunday.
He is.
What's the pump and run?
Because that's the name of a
challenge for Rogue.
And now I'm curious, what is that?
So it is a 5K,
but you start with bench
press and you bench press
your body weight as many reps as you can.
And with that,
you get that much time off of your 5K.
And I think it's like 10 seconds a rep.
It sounds about right.
Okay,
so I'm looking at something like that
for the Rogue Challenge probably.
They haven't announced what it is,
but I don't know if they'll
do that in a shuttle run
for an online version.
A 5K shuttle run?
Some sort of shuttle run, not 5K.
Because I think there's a
lot of cheating that's going to happen.
If you don't make it into a
25 and people like, oh,
I went around the block or this distance,
they had cheating in that
rogue challenge a few years
ago when he wants to run 400 meters,
like 200 there and back.
And these people were
running and like slow jogging,
like a one minute, 400.
I was like, Yeah.
So this is the traditional Arnold event.
This has been around for like, uh,
like 20 plus years.
And so that is the pump and
run last year for rogue.
They did the pump and row.
And then we did it at Polaris,
which was a lot of fun.
It was a 2000 meter row
after your bench press.
It's the same challenge they
do for the challenges.
Yeah.
So I don't know if it's in
my back pocket now.
All right.
Yeah.
Trying to see.
So yeah.
Um, and so Charlie's doing it.
He is one of the best bench
pressers I've ever seen in my life.
So I'm just worried about his run.
That's all.
And at one point he was a great runner,
but he has a new hip.
He has like things going on.
So I don't know if it's
going to be a dumpster fire or not,
but I want to get some,
at least some footage of
the carnage if it happens.
That's exciting.
So super exciting.
Big event in Columbus,
70,000 people in one place.
It's insane.
Yeah, I've never been.
I'm excited.
I've been once and it was dead silence.
It was during the pandemic
and I had the rogue deadlift challenge.
And the only people,
it was actually cool
because the only people
that were there were the athletes.
So you got to watch any of
the events that were going on.
You didn't have to worry about a crowd,
any, like you just showed up,
you watch this, you walk there,
you saw all the athletes,
you could talk to the athletes.
So I had a different
experience of the Arnold.
Yeah.
Yeah, I was there that year.
I was judging the affiliate,
whatever they call it,
the affiliate gathering for CrossFit.
And it was just the people
competing and the judges,
and that was all that was there.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
And from years past, it was so weird.
It was so bizarre.
Because it is utter chaos on stage.
great awesome it is that's
when you're going jamie
yeah I gotta leave at like
4 a.m to even get there in
a reasonable time I can't
even imagine what parking
is going to be like because
it's the busiest day um so
we'll be lucky to get in
there by nine which I think
is when it starts so the
expo doesn't open till 10
oh good maybe we can leave
at like 5 a.m um
yeah if you're not there in
the morning like the garage
is full yeah yeah we'll get
on the road early so we can
get there and be there and
then yeah I think we'll
stay the night and go a
little bit on sunday too
probably leave about one o'clock yeah
The Disney world of sports.
My daughter wanted to go one
year because I used to work
security for the
bodybuilding and so I had
free tickets and then I
took my daughter one year.
She never wanted to go back
after that one time.
Like it was just too many people.
She wanted to go see Half Thor Deadlift.
So we did.
Yeah.
So, Carolyn, how was your week?
Same old teaching.
I was correcting some math stuff tonight,
and then this is a nice
break to my corrections.
Training's going well.
end up doing the open
workout probably tomorrow.
I watched our 67 year old
member today do the workout
right after the announcement.
Um,
she normally qualifies to quarter
finals of masters and she's
excited about the changes
for the number of people.
Cause I think she'll be able
to make it to the semifinals this year.
So, um, hoping to see that.
And, uh, yeah,
so that was exciting to watch her do it.
That's awesome.
speaking of that 65 plus um
I've been talking lan has
been sending me messages
just because she's like the
nicest person on earth um
and they're doing their
adaptive crew and she is
going to send us she
offered to send us some
footage I need to write her
back and say yes please do
yeah footage of uh some
adaptive athletes do in the
open um that'd be awesome
plus this is the inaugural
year of trying out the 70
plus age group so
But they're not doing it on
the leaderboard of the games, though.
They're just inviting the top 70-year-olds,
the top 10 70-year-olds?
Yeah, you have to put in a hashtag,
whatever, so that you can be grouped.
Because that population
knows all the hashtag stuff, right?
Right, exactly.
Exactly.
All right.
They're down with the hashtags.
the technology in that crew
I remember jim had the one
of the judges like sent
something back and was like
I think basically the music
either blocked it or did
something and they're like
you need to send that in
with no music and I was
gone and jim was like I
don't know what to do it
was a disaster the guy sent
him like instructions but oh man
Yeah.
It sounds like my member,
the lady that does it and always like,
can you upload it?
This is how you submit it.
Yeah, absolutely.
Um,
so this open workout is all that I saw
so far.
I didn't even see foundations.
They do have a cute, but psycho shirt.
It's hilarious.
I may be getting that one.
Um, yeah, it's a good shirt.
Uh,
All I saw was scaled was a
lighter dumbbell and that's it.
I didn't see anything about
burpees being differently.
So like for our gym population,
like almost everyone would
be able to handle the 35 and 50 dumbbell.
There'd be some cases, but like,
it's the burpee that like
our members need to step burpees.
And I'm shocked that scale does not step.
I didn't notice unless I missed something,
unless I missed something.
It is it is not step it is
jump over the dumbbell.
I mean, that makes no sense.
That's the workout is burpees.
It is like, that's what you need to scale.
To me,
if you have to scale jumping over a
dumbbell, then it's probably foundations.
And I didn't see foundations.
Maybe I'm missing something.
Maybe there's a different a
totally different like,
Foundations is just burpees.
No jump, no jump over.
And it's 25 pounds suggested dumbbell,
but it says do whatever is
in the foundations.
Do whatever is for you.
I'm surprised that foundations is burpees.
I'm surprised it's not the
no pushup burpee.
Where you're just going to the plank.
I'm not.
They want foundations to be
able to get to the ground
and get back up.
I agree.
I just know that some of our
members that would probably
need to do foundations
probably need to just be
stepping down to a plank
and stepping back up.
Or we're going to be there for a while.
We're going to be there for
all 15 minutes trying to do some burpees.
Yeah.
Oh, you can do elevated burpees.
Well then, so that is an, that is a. Yeah.
Foundations is pretty much
just suggestions where the
coach kind of modifies for the athlete.
Yeah.
I just,
then I would have rather seen
scaled be a workout.
People could move faster through.
What I don't want to see is
my members doing a burpee
every 20 seconds because
they have to jump,
and they're literally so out of breath.
I'd like to see them get
down and up and stepping and stay moving.
I still am confused by the whole,
it's not a two-foot takeoff,
but you can't step over,
and where that gray line is.
I still don't understand it.
It looks awful.
I'm not sure what that even means.
Just means you cannot,
you need both feet in the
air at some point is what
I'm assuming before it lands.
Right.
Is that.
That is correct,
but it is horrible to judge.
Yeah.
To me.
Yeah.
It needs to be both feet
need to be over the dumbbell.
At the same time.
That's how I think when they
try to do this or the
barbell or whatever it is,
when they're trying to do that, like,
sure,
the one foot might like take off
slightly later,
but both feet need to be
going over the implement at
the same time.
That's how I would write a
standard so that you aren't
getting this little like,
where it's both are off,
but they're both off like over here.
Like one's on this side,
one's on this side,
and this one's coming.
I mean,
you're doing a modified skip that
for like a point one second
has both feet up off the ground.
That is not the same as
getting both feet up and over,
even if one trails by a
half second behind.
And then you have to land
before putting your feet or
your hands down on the ground.
But I don't think there's
even anything that's written on that,
but they should write that.
So you can't just flop it
down into like an office.
You must land on the other
side prior to your hands
because if they don't write that,
you could technically flop.
Yeah.
Like, I'm just saying.
Don't, don't.
So I'm with Andrew on this.
They need to do what Legend says.
Just get over.
Stepping isn't faster, right?
This is the open.
they've reduced,
they got rid of all the tape.
They got rid of all the floor plans.
Just get over the, just,
just like they did in with
the box step up or jump.
It was your choice,
but step ups are going to be slower.
Right?
Like, well, yeah.
Yes.
I mean,
this is what I said when I was
guessing a possible workout with like the,
the row and burpee over the rower.
And like I said,
And you make it whatever,
just get yourself over the rower.
So there is no like trying to judge that.
Years ago,
did it like that where it was just like,
get over the rower.
As long as you're not going
around the rower, didn't matter.
You could step over, you could jump over,
whatever's going to be faster for you.
If you want to step over and
that's faster than you step over.
Yeah.
But that's further away from like,
the whole community being able to do it.
Back to what Jamie was arguing,
and I wanted to argue
against her is that I think
90% of the population can
jump over a dumbbell.
And we shouldn't dumb that
down even more for the few
people who can't.
That's what foundations is for.
It is Lord to the ground than the barbell.
So
It is.
It's I mean,
a 25 pound dumbbell or a 35
pound dumbbell is not very big.
And they could literally put
their foot up in the air,
almost be at the other side.
And then.
Yeah, that's what you're getting.
And people are going to end
up skirting line.
And I don't want to see that.
Then just make it whatever it is.
Just get over the darn dumbbell.
So Kenneth asks, from a non-cult member,
why is it allowed to stay
bent over when doing the
burpees for these jump overs?
Just for speed reasons?
Usually when it's a lateral burpee,
you don't have to clear the hips.
If it's a bar-facing burpee
or a dumbbell-facing burpee,
then you have to clear the hips.
No.
No?
You stay super low on any,
unless it's a burpee,
burpee to a target or just a burpee.
Or a burpee to a jump.
Okay.
Okay.
Burpee box jump,
you have to open up your hips at the top.
Burpee box jump overs, you can stay low.
Burpee, bar facing burpees,
you can stay low.
Lateral burpees, you can stay low.
The only ones that you have
to open the hip is to a
target or a regular burpee
without anything else or a
burpee box jump.
Well,
that's because it's the box jump and
the box jump standard is standing.
Literally only burpees,
burpees to a target or
burpees are where you have to stand up,
open up hips and shoulders.
The truth of the matter is, Ken,
is that this is so Carolyn
can finish top five because
she's really good at this technique.
It's good.
Stay in love.
Ready for it.
I mean, it's hard to catch your breath.
And so you have to be fit
enough to do that.
Just don't breathe.
Well, yeah, you got to go fast enough.
You have to be fit enough to
maintain that.
Otherwise,
you'll notice in longer workouts
of bar pacing,
there are people who will
end up kind of standing up
and jumping over because
they've gone too fast and
they have to start slowing
down and breathe.
So I have the workout up.
Let's hear it from you too.
Like, what is the strategy for this?
Is it something you expected?
Is this a surprise to you?
I'd like that the mushroom
actually made sense.
And I mean, it didn't make sense.
Well, he did.
And it was like this, like it,
it expanded as it came down.
I can do that to anything I
write on the board too and say, Hey,
here's my mushroom.
But it's nice that that's
the first time he included his clue.
Right.
It was way better than things in the past.
Yes.
Let's be honest.
I'll give you that.
So anyway,
so how would you guys attack this?
All gas, no brakes.
I mean, it's unbroken.
It's going to blow up your back.
I've heard it's going to get grippy too.
After you're done the set of 21s,
you're done 42 reps.
You're basically halfway right there.
If you have it in you on the second part,
that's when you can burn it down.
You can lose it in those first 21s.
You can always go faster at the end.
If you go too fast to start,
then it could be a little
bit risky there.
Yeah.
But if you know your
capacity and you're able to
hold on to that pace, then you can,
you can push.
So Carolyn, did you do 18.0?
0.0.
What's that?
Yeah.
So immediately when Dave
started announcing, I, he goes 21, 59,
jumbo snatch for be over the number.
I was like, Oh, we're doing 18.0.
Well, I couldn't remember.
It was like the year that we
did 0.0 was the week before the open.
And I was like,
that was like a three minute workout.
Um, cause I did it.
I did it with my son five years ago.
Now he's littler.
Um, and I got to find my video.
I have not had a chance to
do that cause I want to pull it up,
but I remember it being
about three minutes.
So, and then, and then he, you know,
spends five minutes going
over the progression and I'm like,
all right, so double 18.0.
So it's going to be six or seven minutes.
I may have done it, but I don't remember.
I was like, I was spot on with the time.
Um, yeah.
So yeah,
it was at a year where they did
like a practice run.
He did the week before the open started.
He, he's had a workout.
I actually am shocked.
He didn't say 18.0.
Um, because like, I'm,
that was my second year and I was like,
so gung ho about the open.
Um,
and I just remember that came out and I
was like, I am doing this.
I'm figuring out like,
maybe it's going to lead to something.
Um, but yeah, I did.
It was,
I remember something like that.
I just don't remember if I did it or not,
but.
You were probably too good for it.
It was like for us noobs trying to.
I for sure have it.
I need to find my time.
18 had the dumbbell.
The first or second had the
dumbbell front squats with the,
with the burpees on that one.
Yep.
Yeah.
Uh, Kenneth,
who's been a member now for 11 months,
a new favorite show of the week.
Don't tell coach Cheryl.
Yeah, I remember.
So the difference of that one,
obviously it was 21 59.
So it was 21 alternating.
Um, and I re like, I need to,
I really need to find the
video so I can like look
back and see how slow my,
I like digressed over that workout, but,
um,
I like the stain on the one
arm should technically be faster.
But it's also going to like
blow that grip up.
So I don't know.
Yeah,
that was my next question is we're
doing them all on one arm.
How does that change things?
You start with your weaker arm always.
I do.
I do in every workout.
Under under more fatigue,
you want to be stronger.
Yep.
You can,
you can switch your arms like
after you get through the 21.
Yeah.
Yeah.
After you're done at 21,
if you want to start with the other arm,
you could.
I'm a little bit ambidextrous.
So,
but my left is just a little bit weaker.
So I always start left.
Yeah.
I usually always start with my right, but.
I expected burpees in week one,
but I didn't think this
combo would come back up
just because they had just
recently done that combo of
like the burpees and the
dumbbell snatches.
So I didn't expect this combo, I guess,
when you said the couplet.
What about you?
Did you did you feel the same way, Jamie?
Yeah.
I fully expected burpees.
I've made my members do
burpees three times in the last six days.
They were getting mad.
Um, but I was like,
we're going to be doing burpees.
It was jumping of some sort.
Um, but yeah,
I did not really expect to
see the dumbbell snatch again.
When I,
when I looked at the cat
programming and you saw,
so they had a heavy clean and jerk.
Cause I received the cat
programming from my school affiliate, uh,
you had a heavy clean and jerk.
Then you have a double dumbbell, um,
shoulder to overhead today
or with some shuttle runs.
And then there's double
unders at the early week
and the next day.
So I'm like, heck yes, no double unders.
And then a lot of vertical pressing.
So I'm like, okay,
there's nothing short overhead.
And then you saw the last
couple of workouts,
but there was missing a
hinge in that week for cap.
And I was like, there was no burpees.
So I, I,
I figured it was going to be a
light barbell snatch, like a 20,
0.1 was my guess.
Like a light snatch and burpees,
which I love that one as well.
So something like that.
So when this came out, I was like, oh,
you know what?
This actually made sense for
what was programmed on CAP
in terms of like the
movements that were there.
And then if you look at next
week's CAP program,
they had burpees the day before,
which makes sense because
it's a movement that's
already going to be used for week one.
I study that stuff.
So Coach Krispy Kreme, Jamie's coach,
hurt himself today.
Oh, no.
I'm assuming you just did the workout.
And I would like a text
message with your time so I
know what I mean.
Hurt physically or emotionally.
You've got to be more precise there,
Tristan.
Or Patrick.
Is it Tristan or Patrick, his name?
Tristan.
Tristan.
He did the workout.
Yeah, you better be texting me.
emotionally okay so we all
know when a 21 59 it's the
15 that that gets you is
there anything you can do
going into those 15s or do
you just have to to grunt
through it I think it's a
second set of 21 burpees
that's going to start the workout
I think the second set of 21
and the first set of 15s for the burpees,
like that little chunk
there is that's going to be the, okay,
do I can, can I continue at this pace?
Do I just like,
that's going to be where
you're going to be analyzing your,
your state during the workout.
And once you get past that first set of 15,
you see the ending, I think.
So I think that little chunk
of second set of 21 burpees,
15 dumbbell snatchers,
and then especially the 15 burpees,
like those three sections together,
that's sort of it.
I totally agree.
Because really when they got to the nines,
when Jeff and Alex and
everybody got to the nines,
like it went fast.
Yes.
It was over quick when they hit the nines.
Right, right.
And if you looked at their reaction,
they all kind of had that
same sentiment that it went
by very fast at that point.
And they almost wished that they pushed,
I think, a little bit more.
That's what I felt like looking at them.
Like, I was like, oh, okay.
Yeah.
Yeah,
I'm a little nervous of going out too
hot.
I love boobies,
but there's kind of a lot of them.
And if you go out too hot in that 21,
that's, yeah, that's danger zone.
So you both are going to
attempt it tomorrow,
most likely with a repeat
later in the weekend, or no?
I'm going to see how I feel
tomorrow after work.
Sometimes after a long day of work,
it's not the best for me.
So we'll see.
I would like to do it tomorrow.
I want to do them all once.
This is one where I'll look
at the leaderboard on
Sunday and see whether
I want to redo, not for any, like,
the only way I would redo
it is if I feel I can get a top score.
If I don't feel I have that,
if I already see a bunch of
numbers that are, like,
above and I don't feel like
I have that in me,
then I'm just going to move
on because it doesn't, like,
the open doesn't matter.
I would only redo if
something happened or if I
feel I could win it.
That makes sense to me.
Jamie,
are you doing it tomorrow and then
team getting together
Sunday and maybe evening?
I will be doing it on Sunday
with the team.
I'm not going to save my
attempt for Sunday only
because I'm going to have
been on my feet all day
Saturday and Sunday at the Arnold.
I don't think that's a good idea.
I'm going to try my hardest
tomorrow and then
I don't know, maybe,
maybe competing alongside
them at the team will give
me a different fire,
but I have to have an
attempt at the affiliate.
So I, I need to go on Sunday and do it.
So I'll definitely do it.
I'll definitely do a run
through on Sunday with everybody.
Um,
and and then in like next
week maybe I will only do
because I only want to do
these workouts once like I
there's just no reason to
be doing them twice um I
don't really want it to
mess with training right
now but like there's the
only reason would be
ego for people like if
they're not happy with
their performance and
they're just like they
don't want to put or if
you're going for money like
that's it yeah if you're if
you're already in that 25
like there's right one
right like but people don't
want to move on because
it's like an ego thing that
you want to like perform better yeah
But really, do you need to?
No.
Can you learn from it?
Sometimes, yeah,
for sure you can learn from it.
I guess it depends on the situation.
You could also argue
practicing a redo here
could practice a redo for quarterfinals.
If you have to redo stuff
for quarterfinals,
it could be a good tester there, I guess.
But people just want to train, I think,
through the Open,
which is the most important thing.
so I have to do some serious
soul searching this weekend
um because 21 50 pound
dumbbell snatches is very
doable for me um if I take
my time um and then a
couple burpees here and
there um is probably doable
for me uh just to keep my
streak alive for 12 years um
but I have to be careful to
not to push too hard and not to,
to have any setbacks.
So lots of soul searching this weekend.
Um, and do I stay in my lane?
It's what does the streak
matter at the end of the day?
Like I've been doing it since 2013.
A lot of people get injured
and take a year off.
Um,
You know, it is what it is.
So my next question is,
who in the field of the
professionals is going to
be good at this?
Colton.
Colton, Justin, Noah Chandler.
Scott Tetlow.
Oh, Tetlow.
Justin will do well.
Pat Belner, too.
Those are my top picks.
We already know Noah went.
There's Noah.
Posted time of 5.51.
Chandler has 5.49.
I'm actually shocked that
Chandler beat Noah.
Chandler's one of the best
explosive athletes off the ground.
Noah's burpees are so fast.
Chandler's so good at burpees.
So good.
I think it was on his story maybe.
I don't know right here yet.
I love Wex's comment.
The gif.
The gifs on stuff is so funny.
It cracks me up.
Even he makes it look like
it's going to hurt.
For the elites,
there's going to be a big bottleneck.
And that low six high fives,
it's just all going to be a
cluster there.
Like one second is going to be huge.
And then like, I was just,
I was just looking at the
standards and it's a face
away from the dumbbell.
Like I, I, cause I saw, I didn't even,
I missed the beginning of
the announcement.
i didn't know you had to
face away from the dumbbell
to start and then I saw
noah I think on his story
post away and I was like oh
let me look at the standard
it's like the first
sentence like I don't know
why they even do that they
didn't start with their
back to the dumbbell in the
announcement it says it in
the rules once again they
effed up the live announcement
Did they not start?
Okay,
because I didn't know if I just
missed the beginning
because I didn't remember
seeing that from the four that went.
That's why when I saw Noah
had his back towards, I was like, huh.
I was like, I don't remember that.
I was like,
maybe I missed the beginning
because I was chatting.
So they messed that up then.
I just want to know how I
get to surgery to take my
head and put on that body.
That's all I'm looking for.
Oh, so that's why,
so that's why Justin or that's why, um,
Adler has six 13 and not six 10.
That makes sense because I
was wondering why six 13
was written on the
leaderboard when I remember him, uh,
doing six 10.
So there must be a three
second penalty for the false start.
Wow.
Oh,
okay so don't get it
together make sure you face
away from your dumbbell to
start when you do it yeah
I'll make sure because I
want I want to make sure my
it's good for uh
quarterfinals they write
the darn standards how do
they not get it right hold
on for the females emma
mcquade I'm gonna throw it
out there if you look at
any of the burpee workouts
that I've posted the last
few years she's always up there
Was Emma the one who won or
was very top of the.
She won 20.1.
Yeah.
Okay.
The snatches and burpees crushed.
She crushed that workout.
She does well on every burpee workout.
Yeah.
Ariel's pretty good too.
Ariel does well.
Yeah.
Emma Lawson.
Emma Lawson.
Yep.
uh what so you know hayley's
coming back do you think
this is a good one for her
to start with I do I do
think that's a very good
one of course yeah people
that just like suffer like
just go like there's a like
if you look at the
leaderboard last few years
of every burpee workout
like there's a few of us
that are just always there
just it's the same group
one day I want to say just a
few of us will be.
It's just, it's literally the same.
Like if Emma Carey was there,
she would win.
It's just us three, Scott.
These three.
Emma Carey would crush this workout.
That girl would suffer.
That girl has just like if I
think of a female athlete
that just can suffer,
it's like Emma Carey is just damn.
Let's just talk about this.
We're going to talk about
this too right now because
the next thing is to recap
the announcement.
It was the first year of the
Golden Barbell.
No real like announcement as
to what that was.
And it wasn't until I talked
to Ariel yesterday in the
interview that we got,
that she told me a little
bit more about it.
And I kind of understood it.
So what they did is,
so the winner of the open
announcement will get a golden barbell.
Jeff Adler held it at the end.
Apparently it's a 35 pound barbell.
So he's super excited about that.
Um, and you, they added two workouts to it,
to the open announcement,
went live on Instagram
yesterday with no preface
as to what it was.
People got all confused,
thought it was the announcement,
thought they missed it.
And it was just workout one, which was, um,
nasty girls.
so cool you get four elite
athletes to go back and do
this legendary workout in a
very similar style to what
was done back in nasty
girls but it wasn't promoted
Nope.
It wasn't promoted.
Then you come in today to
the announcement.
They recap that one.
And then they announce the athletes.
They run out on the floor
like it's the announcement.
And they do 11.3.
And made a mockery of this
competition by all agreeing
to do it one on every 10 seconds.
Mm-hmm.
So they all finished with
the exact same score.
And that way they were still
rested to do the open announcement,
which I don't blame the athletes later,
which I don't blame the
athletes for coming to that
agreement because you want
to do well in your open announcement.
I mean,
I understand that the open doesn't matter,
but open announcements are
a special thing.
Like when you get asked to do one,
it means something, right?
It didn't make the athletes look good,
though.
I'm not going to lie.
No, it did not.
It didn't make CrossFit look good,
and it didn't make the
athletes look good.
I'm going to side with the
athletes on this.
Yes.
They were pulled into this
thing and not really told much about it.
And I think the setup wasn't
great for them.
definitely not 20 or 30
minutes before they do like
their open workout,
which is actually counting
for the leaderboard.
And, and like Jeff wins the open often.
And like Kazan's a top athlete in the open,
Alexis Raptus, Brent,
I wouldn't say normally is
a top five athlete in the open,
like typically, but like those,
those athletes are,
can do well in the open and
get $15,000 if they win the, like,
you know,
Like you want them to be
able to do their workouts
at a hundred percent,
not tired from doing like that workout,
the five minutes, if they went out hard,
like what CrossFit wants them,
they're not ready to do the
next workout 20 minutes
later with the right intensity.
I don't think that's fair to the athletes.
I agree.
And so,
so then even when that was going on,
people thought, is this the announcement?
This is what we're all doing.
No, it's not what you're doing.
It's just this other thing.
And then they finally make
the announcement.
Now we're learning.
They didn't even follow the
standards in the open
announcement that everybody
else is supposed to follow.
It's just, it's crazy.
So.
This was supposed to be
getting back to the fun of the open,
getting back to all that stuff,
and all this surrounding
fluff that wasn't explained
gave it a big black eye, in my opinion.
And you have 70,000 to
100,000 people watching on the stream,
and that's what you gave them.
As soon as there was
commercials and stuff?
Yeah.
The viewing went from, I think,
110,000 to 70,000 right away.
Because they kept putting
commercials in the pre-show?
Right in the middle of the week.
There was a workout.
Yeah,
there was a commercial in the middle
of that five-minute AMRAP.
I was like, it's a five-minute AMRAP.
Get through it.
That was awful.
yeah I don't know who was in
charge of that but um they
need to get a sternly
written memo yeah I I'm
very curious when they
asked these four athletes
to participate exactly what
was asked of them like how
clear they were of we're
adding in three extra
workout or two extra workouts
um because I feel like if
you were told exactly what
was going on and you were
and you were someone like
jeff or somebody who like
kind of maybe still wants
to win the open maybe you
should have said no and
found different athletes or
I just feel like this I
like the golden barbell I
like now that they've
explained the community one
how it's getting voted on
or whatever like I think
they should have just had that and
like I've said, like get other,
get people that were from
the affiliate out there to
do a different workout beforehand.
Show other people working out.
Like we don't need to see
them try to trash
themselves before a workout
and before the actual
workout announcement.
Like I don't, I didn't even understand it.
So I'm, I'm the last person that is like,
Hey,
I want to do it like we did it back
in the day.
but the workout was over.
Jeff was interviewed and the
broadcast was done.
Yeah, I know.
Like where is the post
interview with all the athletes?
Where is interviewing Castro?
Where is, um,
some other people doing the
workout to show us like the
different versions or the different,
like all that went away.
Yep.
And you're already up and running it.
That would be no more cost.
Nope.
Yeah, like have like six chairs with Boz,
Dave, the four athletes.
How did they come up with the workouts?
How did they feel?
What was like just bouncing stuff?
Like they used to always do that.
Take questions live from YouTube, you know,
to get that engagement.
Like none of that was done,
and it was very frustrating.
I agree.
Because all this stuff beforehand,
because it wasn't explained well,
made no sense.
No sense.
So then you cut it short at
the end and I just, I felt like,
I felt very let down.
Yeah.
You know,
what would have been cool would
have been to like talk to
Castro or even the athletes afterwards,
but do that barbell workout
20 minutes after 10 minutes
after something.
and see and because then I
actually think some of them
like a few of them may have
like pushed and seen how
fast they could go um it's
definitely probably
wouldn't have been the
fastest right like they
wouldn't have been
competing with ronin's
numbers but because they've
just probably killed
themselves doing burpees
and snatches but they're
all I think that would have
been cool yeah what
They're all in the same situation.
Yeah, they may not hit an all-time PR,
but they're all in the same
boat at that point.
I don't think they should
even pick workouts that are
open or girl workouts or
stuff that people already
know the scores and what's
a good score because right
away they're measured
against that and it's like,
pick a new workout that's
unrelated that the
community can try after or something.
Yeah.
Cause I think if you give
them like an open workout, you,
you're already putting, you know,
Rich Froning won this
workout and he had 90 reps
or whatever it was.
And then you go and they do
30 and you're like, Oh yeah.
Well, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was embarrassing.
All right.
So let's move on from that.
And hopefully they learn
from this and do better next week.
Um,
The one other thing from the
broadcast I want to talk about is,
and I hate ripping on broadcasters,
but they acted like Jeff
Adler didn't win the games last year.
Like, that dude is fit.
He is not just the barbell guy anymore.
And to be shocked that he
was good at burpees and
snatches is just...
Really kind of pissed me off,
I'll be honest.
Hasn't he won the Open twice?
I know he won it last year.
I think he's won it twice, him or Pat.
Maybe I'm getting them confused.
I'm pretty sure he's won it
twice at least.
And I know people think I'm
the biggest Adler apologist,
but that guy won the games
last year legit.
Agreed.
And to act like he didn't,
really was, was pissing me off today.
And he just is not getting
the respect that other,
like Justin wins at one
time and people were acting
like he's going to run away
with it for the next 10 years.
Jeff wins it.
And he's look at all the polls,
like his highest rankings, like third.
I've never been so like
hopeful for someone to win again.
as I am for him.
So that mini riff is done.
And then I have on here
should masters adaptive and
teens host their own announcements,
which I know legends did one tonight.
Did they?
Where was that advertised?
It was on YouTube,
or maybe it's just on Instagram.
Casey Johnson was going to
do the workout live,
and Legends was doing that.
I think the teens are doing
something this weekend.
I don't know how organized it is,
but I think they are doing
something this weekend.
And then the wheel wad is
doing something as well.
Yes, I saw a wheel wad.
Yeah, I saw the wheel wad one.
So I think it was late to
the game and late to
announcing that they were doing it.
And I think there's been a
call this week that they all should.
And they jumped on as
quickly as they could after.
But it was a little bit last minute.
So I'm anxious to see what
next week looks like.
And hopefully they'll show
some more stuff.
But until then,
we're going to try to show
some people doing it this Sunday.
Okay.
Right?
That's fine.
We can do that.
An 18-year-old, a 67-year-old,
and a 40-year-old for sure.
I don't think Jim will be there.
Okay.
No Jim.
But we do have another Masters athlete.
And...
Oh, and a former team games athlete,
but he's in his early 20s now.
Yeah.
So.
So the Masters had just a
single person doing the workout?
Just one person?
Just one person.
That's very strange.
Yeah.
So Kenneth is reporting that
Colton West is mom today.
What?
Yeah,
he did a little post on his Instagram.
I saw that earlier.
So we don't even know if
this kid affected his
season and he's competing.
No.
Wow.
That's terrible.
Yeah.
Prayers out to Colton and his family,
for sure.
That's really sad.
Um, Kenneth is asking where the,
the ages video is.
Uh, we'll do it Sunday.
Yeah.
Basically, uh, it's spring break.
So Haley is not here this week.
Um, I had a video of Jim and I, um,
that I thought about doing, but yeah,
we'll, we'll make it the open workout.
Yep.
Okay, and Heat One app.
How did your picks go today?
I have no idea.
I got to go open it up.
Yeah, I haven't even looked.
I didn't do it.
Carolyn.
I know.
I did it at the games, though.
But I also knew the workouts.
I knew how to pick them.
Yeah, you had some inside knowledge.
So I picked Adler and Raptors.
I did too.
So you're two for two.
Yeah.
Nice.
Of course.
Were those the only picks
that you could pick for this?
No, there's a lot of picks,
but we don't know the results yet.
Okay.
It looks like they're all Friday.
We have an underdogs matchup tomorrow.
And then the brackets for
the weekend are Jay Crouch
versus Jeff Adler.
Brent Fikowski versus Roman Krinikov.
Dallin Pepper versus Ricky Garrard.
Yona Koski versus Pat Vellner.
And then on the women's side,
Daniel Brandon slotted in
for Emma Carey against Laura Horvat.
Gabby Magawa versus Emma Lawson.
Alex Kazan versus Ariel Lohan.
That's a tough matchup.
I think Magawa and Lawson.
Alexis Raptus and Tia Toomey.
It'll be interesting to see
how Tia's wrist is because
she was saying she was
struggling doing push-ups
the other day and there's pushing off.
I might need to change my
pick on that one.
Yeah.
So I already didn't pick Tia
because I don't think the
open matters and it's an open workout.
And if she's going to be beat,
this is an easy place to do it.
But I do want to talk to that.
Last week I said,
I don't think Tia's winning the games.
I have picked Emma Lawson to
win the games this year already.
And this wrist injury just
shows you what can happen in a season.
So those people that are like,
if you're picking Emma Lawson,
you need to be thrown out of the pole.
No, because it's sport.
Injuries happen.
Like anything can happen.
And I was reminded watching
behind the scenes this week,
Emma Lawson had the
leader's jersey on going
into the last event.
It wasn't until the event
before the last event that
Laura overtook her.
Right.
And if you think Laura has a
shot and Emma was that close to Laura,
then you're not that far off.
And Emma is so young,
she can make huge gains in her weakness.
weaknesses where Tia is who she is.
Yeah.
I mean,
if she's going to continue with
this injury,
like there's a definite shot.
Yeah.
Jody, I think it's confirmed.
Sorry about that.
I got all ramped up.
You're a little verklempt.
I think Jamie,
you had picked Emma last
year going in for the games.
And I was like, no, you're not crazy.
I was like, Emma's good.
Like she can win.
And remember we had this, this,
like I was in the chat and I was like, no,
no, no.
Emma's, Emma's going to be up there.
And sure enough, she was,
she's got it all.
She does.
I,
I just don't think Tia is beatable
unless she's beatable.
Like she beats herself.
Like if she has an injury or
something like this.
So like if this continues on
and she's unable to, I mean,
I'm very curious to see how
she performs on these burpees.
So yeah, she could take herself out of it.
She's two years older.
Yeah, it doesn't matter.
That doesn't matter.
She still beat 99% of people
seven months pregnant or
whatever she was last year.
Exactly.
I think she beat me in like
two or three of the open
workouts and I was like, damn.
Yeah.
Yep.
She's still so good.
She's so far away from
everyone that it's just... So...
okay we've finished pretty
much the open we've beat
that horse yep emma carrie
kenneth I hate when kenneth
tries to do my agenda for
me it's on the agenda
kenneth we're not missing
it there give kenneth
access to the notes okay
give him access to the
notes he's got some topics
he's gonna lay it down for us
Um,
she announced today that she is sitting
out the 2024 season, um,
because she wants to
prioritize her faith.
If you watch the mayhem half
athlete podcast with her,
you kind of saw this coming.
I kind of saw this coming.
I shouldn't say you should.
What she was saying was a
lot of the same things.
that I heard from Olivia
Sulik when I was talking to
her about her faith and why
she made the decision to
leave CrossFit and go all
in with that priority.
Okay.
And so, and they were roommates.
Okay.
And they both, Dom was there,
both of their kind of counselors in this
in this discovery.
So the one thing that,
that is different between
Olivia and Emma is Emma was like,
I am coming back.
I just have to prioritize things first.
Um, so I think that's, I,
very proud of that decision
is very adult decision that she's making,
um, to do that.
And if that's what she
believes and her faith is
telling her to do that,
I think that she needs to take that step,
take a year off,
get herself where she needs to be,
and then, um,
come back and use her gifts
to glorify God in that way.
Yes.
Beck, we are talking about Emma Carey.
so lex thrown out there she
thinks it may be more than
just that maybe a back
injury I don't know go
listen to that mayhem
podcast like the writing
was on the wall I haven't
listened to that podcast so
I haven't I caught none of
that especially um
especially the last 20
minutes I sort of thought
that was kind of why she
was going to mayhem
to be in that environment.
I think so.
I think she talks about in
the Mayhem podcast about
how she always talked about
how God was important to her,
but she didn't feel like
she was living that out.
That as much as she was saying that,
CrossFit was still the main
thing in her life.
I think she has to remove that
for that idol that she has
that temptation to get right with God.
And then once she's right with God,
then she can prioritize
what the rest of that is.
And if you're going through that journey,
Cookville is probably the
right place to be because,
because Rich did discover a
balance that he could
glorify God and compete.
There are people around her
that have done it.
So...
With Mayhem,
you don't know when the
interview occurred because
they do everything tape
delay and it comes out
weeks after the fact.
But again,
a lot of things she was saying
were the same things Olivia
said before she stepped
away from the sport.
And again, they're best friends.
They were roommates in Naples.
So it didn't surprise me.
But I do wish her well.
Like it surprised me in
terms of how much I,
from an outsider perspective,
I know that Emma loves CrossFit so much.
So it's like,
it's so surprising that like
to see her at the top of her game,
really.
She could have podiumed last
year if she didn't mess up on the bike,
really.
She messed up there.
And then she just kind of
had a poor strategy on the
rope climb because she was
like top three before she
missed that rope.
Like you take those two and
she's literally on the podium.
She's at the top of her game,
so I didn't expect her to, I guess,
make this decision.
But I also know how much she is religious.
So I can't relate to what
she's feeling at all.
So whatever she needs to do, I guess.
It was so, it was just surprising to me.
Cause I I'm like, well, can't you like,
I just don't understand it
because I don't,
I don't have the same faith, I guess.
Right.
I would say you probably agree with Lex.
So I do have the same faith
she does and I do understand it.
And I, and it's, it's hard for,
I think for people who
don't have the same belief
system to understand that
you love so much, something so much,
you have to take a step
back from it to put it in
the right perspective in your life.
if that makes sense.
I understand her perspective.
It became like CrossFit was number one,
and she doesn't want
CrossFit to be number one.
She wants God to be number one,
and she wants to realign
those priorities.
I understand what she's saying.
I'm just saying I personally can't relate,
but I respect that that's
where she needs to go.
I hope that she's able to
come back if that's
in the plans I guess I
should say um because she
is a great athlete but
again if she doesn't come
back and she has other
aspirations or other things
that she'll do and I'm sure
she'll excel at anything
she does right so one in
her post she said she
wanted god to be the
ultimate like she doesn't
even say number one she's like ultimate
which I think expresses it
even more than number one.
In the interview with Mayhem,
and we talked about this
with Ariel yesterday, or I did,
she talks about how Ariel
was so kind to her at the Granite Games,
and she couldn't understand that,
that she was actually
intimidated by Ariel's kindness.
And as she's grown older,
she actually now wants to
be like Ariel again.
in her faith because she
doesn't think she's
following the path as much
and I talked to that with
ariel and it got her
perspective which was
really cool so if you
didn't see that that that
was at the end of the
interview yesterday but yet
all ariel was saying was
they were tied for first
going into the last event
at granite games
And Ariel said, you've got this.
Go out there.
Kill it.
And Emma couldn't understand
why another competitor
would be wishing her well.
That's just like good human being shit.
Seems like an Ariel thing.
Yeah, I mean,
that totally seems like an Ariel thing,
but it also seems like a
good human thing.
Is every elite athlete at
the Games a major raging bitch?
Okay, I'm confused.
No, not at all.
I've only had good
interactions with people.
I've had more interactions
with certain people than others,
but they've all been good.
Emma is a silent killer,
and so she just... Yes, I get it.
She is very tunnel-visioned
in what she wants to accomplish.
And with that tunnel vision,
she was keeping God out.
Yes.
Even though she was saying
she was keeping him in.
Yeah.
So...
But the bigger umbrella
issue with this is this is
now seven games athletes
that have announced that
they're not competing in
the individual division this year.
Females.
Females, yes.
So Emma announced today,
Kelly Baker to start a family,
Christine Kohlenbrander due
to a back injury, Jamie Simmons team,
Mathilde Garnes team,
Annie Thor's daughter pregnant,
and Emily DeRoy team.
Seven.
So those are seven slots out
of 40 that are now available this year.
Carolyn, your thoughts.
There's a big turnaround every year.
This is, this is what happens every year.
Like whether it's injuries or not,
there's new faces that are
going to come and take those spots,
whether they're there.
Like, it's just, this happens.
I feel like every year.
As an athlete who just missed last year,
do you look at this as more
opportunity for you?
Of course.
I'm not going to lie,
but you have to look who's in the East.
Who's in the West.
Two in the West are out.
Does that leave a place in the East?
Haley comes back to the East.
Does that give us a spot?
Like it depends on the spots
that are allocated, of course,
where people are from.
And we go from there.
Once we find out how many
spots and it's like, okay, that,
that number is not changing.
It's how can you get yourself in within,
you know, 12 spots or 11,
whatever it's going to be.
I'm still not counting out
the quarterfinals.
Like that's,
there's making top 40 is yeah.
You can't have a bad workout.
Cannot have a bad workout.
And I've had some before.
So with a single movement, so we'll see.
So Kenneth, the,
the issue with that of just
naming names is these are
all over the world.
Um, and in Europe,
Emily and Jamie in Australia,
Matilde Europe, um,
Christine Colin Brander West,
Kelly Baker West, and Emma Carey East.
It's a it they're splattered
all over the world.
And yeah,
and three of those are that he
named our West and to our east,
and you have to coming back to the east.
So it's almost like there's no more spots.
There's no benefit to the east.
There's not many spots in
Europe and the east and
stuff like it's just not many spots.
Yeah,
I think the biggest mistake that
CrossFit has made in this
rule change is we're the 40 at the U.S.
and Europe regions.
I don't like that at all.
I hate that.
Despise that.
you're just putting a lot
more emphasis on online.
And there's a lot of people that do like,
I'm, I'm doing my workouts alone.
I'm literally doing them
alone on a Friday at the
gym right after work.
And you have training camps
and group of people.
Like it's just such a
different environment.
Like people can just do so
much better in certain
environments that they have
access to versus in person.
They don't perform the same
way or they do perform the same way.
And other people step up
their game maybe is what it is,
but I don't know.
It's a lot more emphasis online.
All right.
So speaking of where do we want to go?
Tia's wrist injury we kind of touched on,
but she was on Coffee Pods
and Watts today.
I tried to squeeze it in
between open announcement and here.
They went two hours.
Jesus.
Um, which shocked me with Tia.
Uh,
she doesn't do a lot of podcasts and it
was obvious in this podcast
that she talked about her
trust of the media,
that she doesn't trust a
lot of the media and that
she thinks a lot of the
media is a hateful, which hurts my heart.
Yeah.
Because I don't think a lot
of the media is hateful.
I think we just get a bad
rap for a couple people.
But she's had some people
speak very negatively about her.
So I understand her perspective.
When people say certain things about you,
you're not going to want to
go on certain shows.
Right.
I agree.
So she has a valid point as
to why she doesn't.
do many interviews with
certain people that like
she's she's always gone on
talking elite fitness and
she has her people that she
feels comfortable with and
I guess respects their
their media absolutely what
what was so in full
transparency I was not a
big fan of her uh youtube
channel I don't think she
brought a lot of content to the table
but this one I mean she was
she was very talkative very
open very transparent um
and it's definitely worth a
listen um just know you're
you're in for a two-hour
ride yeah on that one um
you know maybe I'm a little
resentful because I've
tried to get her on the
show and yes um she agreed
at one point um and then
backed out last minute um
but you know we'll see um
mal's interview on tef did
you guys catch that with lauren
Nope.
First 15,
20 minutes didn't really do
anything for me.
But then they got into kind
of why she walked away.
And for the first time,
I think she explained it in
a way that I could understand.
Not that it's meant for me to understand.
I've said on this show,
I want her to be happy.
I don't care if she comes back.
If she wants to step away,
that's all her decision.
But she talks about how she
could not turn it off and
she would not turn it off
until she won the games.
And that was driving her
into a hole that she just
would never get out of.
Um,
and so it took her completely walking
away, uh, for that.
Did you watch her on be friendly?
I couldn't.
Okay.
Yeah, I haven't seen either of them.
I was going to try to catch
the Be Friendly one,
and then I saw this one.
It's like 27 minutes,
so it's very digestible,
but it's the end where they
get into the deep talk.
Yeah.
I tried to watch the Be Friendly one.
It just didn't have any
substance for a while, and I was like...
I gotta go.
I heard that, but quite a few people said,
if you like scroll to like
30 or 35 minutes and then started,
you would, it would be better.
So I might try to do that.
Yeah.
Um,
Behind the scenes.
I finally finished it.
So I wanted to give like a last one.
Carolyn is like the star of the demo team.
She's the only demo team
member that makes the cut.
You are.
I think they have Victor
Hoffer in there in the background.
They would have had Victor
doing some of the gymnastics stuff, no?
Yeah, but you are the speaking part.
Correct.
You've got all the speaking parts.
I'm always talkative.
Lex lets me know that too.
So in my opinion, it was very good.
It was nice to get back to
something like that.
But I will say that...
this show and this company
love all the athletes like
we we try to interview all
the semi-finalists we know
all the games athletes as
the episodes went on it
definitely funneled down
into a handful of athletes
sure for the end right and
as that got on I wanted to
know more about others but
again if I did that it
would be a 24 episode
Do you think it would be
hard because of the cuts as
well as the field got smaller,
there was less people to
also interview or,
and then they focused a
little bit more on,
would that be a factor?
No, and it could, and it could be like,
I wasn't there.
So it could be that the
athletes weren't available.
Like those athletes that I
wanted to hear from didn't
make themselves available to the, to,
to his crew.
So I felt like,
I felt like there was too much Laura.
And it, and it wasn't so that,
that was a thing I thought too.
And it wasn't, it wasn't the games based.
No, it was their personal few more than.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I was, um,
But yeah, I thought it was good.
It was nice to have it back.
But man,
there were so many cameras down there,
it seemed like.
So many.
And when I talked to Ariel, she was like,
I didn't even notice them.
Yeah, because there were so many.
Or because Sevan's so little,
he just kind of... She
didn't see them at all.
I bet you there was 10,
12 cameras up at all times.
Yeah, they had a lot of people.
Not us.
Yeah, not us.
We didn't get that access.
Oh, we did for Masters.
Yeah, sort of.
Not like that.
We were allowed to step down
there just after they came
off to get a final interview.
It was not the same.
We were not allowed to go
back there when they're
warming up and get their
take on workouts.
We could have had way better footage.
If they would have let us
cover some Masters,
there could have been some
cool behind-the-scenes stuff.
Yeah.
I would have loved to do that.
Yeah.
Speaking of behind the scenes and videos,
the Haley Hiller video,
if you have not seen that, it is so,
so good.
It's very good.
When Hiller uses his powers for good.
It can be amazing.
That is one of the best
things I've seen in 10 years.
And I have always loved Haley Murillo.
And I love her even more after this.
And I love her husband too.
And their daughter is the cutest.
She is adorable.
clone of josh yeah it's so
good so good and I love
that like they show going
to a globo gym uh for
hayley just to and like
there were so many parts I
loved about it and um just
kudos to hillar like that
was just that was awesome
It'd be nice for him to kind
of follow her at each stage of the season,
like quarters and semis and games,
and then just do a little,
of course she'll make it there.
She should,
but just kind of follow her
year and see how her
mindset is at different parts.
It'd be kind of cool to see.
Yeah, would love that.
And that's what we strived
to do last year with our all access.
And I think what I learned
is I had too many people.
Like it needs to be more
intimate than we even tried.
But I wanted to do something
like that where it was more
intimate throughout the
season and you got to know
all the aspects of every
workout and all the way through.
And Carolyn was a part of that.
Um,
and I'm still working on the final cut
of the, the games version, which, uh,
hopefully we'll get out
here in the next few weeks,
at least another episode, um, to do that.
So, um,
and then finally rogue is going to
Scotland and,
super cool yeah interesting
what I love about that is
it's such a great test case
rogue does things so well
it's going to be
interesting to see what the
reaction is by the fans in
europe that they have an
event like what's how is it
going to show up how
logistically do they set up
the equipment where do they get it from
You know,
they've done the European semifinal,
so they have like a roadmap already.
But to do a bigger event.
Well,
you just know Europe is going to show
up because if they can do well here,
games are going to be
looking at that and going
to be looking to see,
can we bring the games to Europe?
Right.
So, you know,
Europe is going to is going to show up.
Like Rogue has done a lot.
Like they're always leading the way.
If you look at the 2020
games or Rogue Invitational,
when they did everything
online and everyone at the
same time with the screens
and they sent equipment and
they send the judges,
like that was the first
time we'd ever seen that
from different locations live.
And then CrossFit and other
places started using that
technology and that idea.
Then you have at the Rogue
Invitational this year,
they had a paid... What was
the thing that the... Broadcast?
You know games are going to
be looking at that and being like,
what's Rogue doing there?
Now it seems like Rogue is
just leading in everything
and then games can kind of
see whether that's going to
work and then it would be
nice at the CrossFit Games
if they could do that same
idea with the broadcast
where you can pay to watch
a certain lane or certain
athletes and then I could
see it maybe going to Europe.
a few years if it works well
so that that alternate
broadcast that rogue did
probably my favorite thing
of 2023 I had my laptop
hooked up to every monitor
I had so all the different
versions I had on a
different screen and I
could just move my head
around like I'm watching
nfl sunday ticket on a
sunday with all the games
and the tailgate party and
the alternate um
analysis and all that kind
of stuff was so good I
bought it I never watched
it I just bought it to
support because I know that
if I was an athlete I'd
want to have that so I was
like because I was there so
I didn't really need it but
so I never I never saw what
it looked like so what was
cool is they always had
like a wide angle of the entire field
So like I have that on one screen.
Then they have another
screen that is like the
people in first and second.
Then they have another
screen that's from a different angle.
But you always had like the
base was the widescreen to
see where everybody was.
Like you could see if
someone was catching up or someone was,
you know,
because so many times they focus
on who's in first and
second and someone
overtakes that lead and
they've missed it.
Oh,
then this person just came in out of
nowhere.
And it's like, it wasn't out of nowhere.
You guys just missed it.
Right.
What I love the best is what
I think the one suggestion
I would make is if you had a camera,
like on these two lanes, these two lanes,
these two lanes, these two lanes.
So you, and you could switch between them.
Agreed.
That I think is the next evolution.
Yep.
um kenneth is going deep uh
yes it even beat out
getting to interview fancy
tovar um I'd love the
suggestions um in the
comments about I really
hoping scottish highland
game style events so that rogue yeah
I, I didn't look in, like,
I just saw that Rogue was
going to Europe and that
was my initial thought.
I basically thought they
were going to not do Rogue
here and go to the like Highland games.
I, so I guess,
so they're just doing their own event.
They're just making a whole
brand new event over there.
No, it is the Rogue Invitational.
Okay.
So it'll still be our CrossFit.
It's not going to coincide with like,
yeah.
Like Kenneth said,
it's going to be mental.
Strongman is huge in Scotland.
For sure.
Isn't it in November, Scott?
I can't remember.
I thought it was later, right?
It's October.
Oh, they're moving it?
Yeah,
I think they moved it a little
further to November or something.
If I remember.
The video they put out is just gorgeous.
And I just was in awe of that.
So, yeah.
I would love to be able to
get some sponsors and get
over there because I think
that would be so killer.
But without major sponsor
changes in this show,
we won't be watching it on
the tailgate party because
I can afford the 20 bucks to do that.
Yeah.
Andrew Sten does confirm
it's in November this year.
does make it weird that they
always do it on halloween
yeah it is weird um my wife
is a big halloween fan and
when my daughter was little
like if I would have I
actually had a work trip on
halloween once and she
freaked out that I was not
here for halloween and my
daughter so I find that odd
but maybe not everybody
celebrates like my wife
I like Halloween.
So I think that's everything
we got for this week.
You guys got anything else to add?
No.
I've got to get through all
my open set up for tomorrow for the gym.
At least there's not much set up.
Yeah.
That's true.
Yeah.
No tape.
Just as long as you make
them face away from the dumbbell.
Pull out a dumbbell.
Give them a square.
Yeah.
It's going to get sweaty.
I do like that they've made
that easier this year.
That's got to be great for
affiliate owners.
Definitely.
Kenneth is already pumped for 24.2,
and he hasn't even done 24.1 yet.
To make my students do this tomorrow.
Heck yeah.
Heck yeah.
No,
I think that'd be too much hinging that
I haven't prepared them
enough for that much hinging.
I don't want to put that on them.
Do you, do you have to back your kids off?
Like, do they want to go like super hard?
This group that I have is awesome.
I have a great, I have, so I've,
I teach grade nine and 10
math and then I have a
grade 11 and 12 fitness class.
They're really good.
They're working super hard.
They're giving it.
There's some good athletes in there,
but I don't do many,
like I don't do many like CrossFit wads.
I use what I like the most about CrossFit.
I've never taught them any
kipping at all or anything like that.
Everything's strict,
a lot of single leg work and jumping and,
um,
unilateral things plus the
main lifts I guess but I
don't do much crossfit like
wads I just don't have
enough equipment to or
space yeah that makes sense
do you believe that
crossfit should be a part
of like phys ed programs it
can be why not I mean cross
it's kind of like
everything right it's some right it's
A lot of gym,
like a lot of phys ed
teachers use parts of
CrossFit when they're doing
like little circuits and stuff.
They just don't call it CrossFit,
but to us it would be CrossFit.
Yeah.
I just want to make sure I
add rotational work and
lateral work because
everything's in the
sagittal plane for CrossFit.
Except for these burpees
over the laterals.
So like you love lateral
movements because you were
a hockey player.
You were an athlete.
And so that, but,
but hockey specifically to skate,
you're pushing out, right?
And soccer, like you're like,
I'm cutting everything.
So you have to,
you have to move laterally
in basketball and a lot of sports.
I just think that's the one
thing that CrossFit doesn't have.
There's no rotational moves
and there's not much lateral work at all.
Only at the games if you had
a little zigzag or if
you're doing a lateral box jump overs.
And that's really not much.
Like everything is in this plane.
And for a lot of sports,
there's a lot of movements
rotationally and then just like.
Now that I'm not playing
hockey this year for the
first year in my life and
I'm only doing technically
one sport with CrossFit,
I want to make sure that
I'm not losing certain
parts of my fitness that
I've done since I was three years old.
I'm actively adding things to my training.
What can coaches do to add
that to their programming?
Some of the accessory work.
like some med balls to the wall,
some like anti-rotation,
like pallet presses,
just like just some rotational work, some,
some simple bounding in warmups.
It can be in warmups and accessory.
Yeah.
We at Polaris,
we do it a little bit with bodybuilding,
like in band work,
like twisting with the bands.
Um, but yeah.
Yeah.
I,
one thing I think that would be fun to
see in a CrossFit would be
like a three cone drill,
like as a rep that you'd have to, and,
and I don't even know if
people know what that is,
but in football at the combine,
this is a combine week for the NFL.
They do a three cone drill and time them,
the guys.
And it's, it is a super fast, quick,
short shuttle run.
The five, 10, five.
Yeah.
the pro agility,
my students have that tomorrow.
Yeah.
And I think that would be like,
if each one was a rep,
and you had to do those,
it would be adding some of
that lateral movement,
because most of most good
people through a three cone
drill are moving sideways.
Yeah.
The good scores, you have to shuffle,
I guess the shuttle runs on the pivots,
add a little bit of athleticism there.
But
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'd say for Andrew in the
warmups and the accessory,
I just think those are
important things to add.
And then the rest cross,
it's the best methodology
for general fitness after that.
It's just missing a couple key things.
Yeah.
We've been doing a crap ton
of landmine stuff.
Yup.
All right.
All right.
There you go.
Listen to Carolyn Prevo
programming for your kids and your,
your class.
All right.
With that, um,
good luck to everybody on 24.1.
Um, we might be back with you on Sunday,
uh,
with some live footage of that and
Jamie's team.
Um,
we will try to post that up as soon as
we can.
Once we know for sure that'll happen.
And with that, if you want Jim Haley and I,
then you're going to want
to go live tomorrow.
It just, I don't know.
We'll talk about it.
We can go live tomorrow.
I'm here.
Maybe.
Okay.
We'll talk about it.
We'll see what time everyone
else is going.
I don't want to be competing
with other streams.
All right.
Cool.
Well, with that,
thank you everybody for
joining us tonight.
This is a lot of fun and we
will see you next week for 24.2
And hopefully the broadcast
is better on how that goes
with that's Colton Mertens
and Justin Medeiros live
from the shred shed.
We'll see you all later.
Bye guys.
Good night guys.