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Episode 24 – Reconciliation and the Nonprofit Sector: Where Are We Now? 

 
To mark Canada’s 4th annual National Day for Truth and Reconciliation, in this episode, we’re checking in with Indigenous nonprofit leaders from across the country to hear what they have to say about whether any progress has been made in how the #nonprofit sector supports, funds and collaborates with Indigenous-led organizations. We’ll spotlight some powerful examples of how settler-led and Indigenous-led organizations are creating better working relationships, and hear from Indigenous leaders on what more the sector needs to do to advance reconciliation work.  
 
 
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Welcome to CharityVillage Connects – a series that highlights topics vital to the nonprofit sector in Canada. CharityVillage is a resource to over 170,000 charitable and nonprofit organizations in Canada. This series, hosted by President Mary Barroll, will provide in-depth conversations with experts in the nonprofit sector. We’ll examine diversity, equity and inclusion, innovations in fundraising, the gap in female representation in leadership and many other subjects crucial to the growth and development of charities throughout Canada.

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Welcome to Charity Village Connects. I'm your host Mary Barrell.

That's the sound of a hummingbird pollinating our world and making it a better place. The hummingbird is Charity Village's logo because we strive, like the industrious hummingbird, to make connections across the nonprofit sector and help make positive change. Over this series of podcasts, we'll explore topics that are vital to the nonprofit sector in Canada. Topics like diversity, equity and inclusion, mental health in the workplace,

the gap in female representation and leadership, and many other subjects crucial to the sector. We'll offer insight that will help you make sense of your life as a nonprofit professional, make connections to help navigate challenges, and support your organization to deliver on its mission.

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No, that's not O Canada, that's our village in the language of the Four Winds. After the song I spoke the law to him, the law of these lands. We hereby served the spoken law. We the daughters of the Great Spirit and our tribal sovereign members cannot be coarsened to any law or treaty that is not the great law.

To mark Canada's fourth annual National Day for Truth and Reconciliation, in this episode, we're checking in with Indigenous non -profit leaders from across the country to hear what they have to say about whether any progress has been made in how the non -profit sector supports, funds, and collaborates with Indigenous -led organizations. When we had received funding from each of the levels of government,

There were restrictions. If we're going to give you this much money, then you spend it on these activities. We have always been told what we need, what's good for us, what's best for us, where we should live, how we should live. When I get a mosquito bite, I'm told where I can scratch. We take the view that money is medicine for restorative purposes.

We welcome you and we welcome individuals also to support us monthly or one time giving as they can through this lens of reconciliation. How have you benefited from colonization and how have we as Indigenous folks lost? And so we're really taking this restorative view and trying to break down the transactional relationships that have historically been a part of philanthropy.

Philanthropy as a sector is not mentioned in the TRC calls to action, but then we have the Declaration, which is specific to philanthropy. And so these resources provide a roadmap for us. And I think the foundation, the internal work, understanding the legacy of trauma, understanding the systemic barriers, the injustices, digging into the resources that exist out there, allowed us to get to a place of readiness where it was a natural decision.

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It was clear from the feedback we heard that this has to be more than just conversations. People wanted to see something substantive. People wanted to see something that was endorsed by the board of directors and senior staff to demonstrate that it had teeth and that it was a commitment that United Way was stepping into. I think what really stands out for me was that really profound significance by the Pope a couple of hours ago where he issued

this public apology to residential school survivors. It was really significant because that was when we talk about things surrounding the truth of reconciliation. And I think that stands out to me big time because what I think is happening is the lens is finally sort of being shone on the work that needs to be done. So from that, what I am observing is there's this growing desire for organizations to either incorporate some sort of

culturally specific or appropriate services and supports for Indigenous people that are not oppressive, but to actually change how they function, structure of their organization. We had communities in northern Manitoba that were not having supplies sent, they were having body bags sent. As of yesterday, we have hit 751 unmarked graves.

This is not a mass grave site. These are unmarked graves. It hurts so much to keep hearing about how these are being uncovered. And I'm really hoping Canadians' consciousness is awake to what experience First Nations have had since the beginning of this country.

A wind of change did blow during the COVID -19 pandemic, when it brought to light so many of the systemic challenges faced by Indigenous people, as inequitable access to basic supports were compounded by the virus. It was during this period that the consciousness of the Canadian settler public experienced an awakening to the realities of what Indigenous people across the country

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have suffered historically and continue to face on a daily basis. That consciousness was heightened by the shocking discovery of unmarked indigenous graves on former residential school grounds, providing stark evidence to the testimony given by survivors to the Truth and Reconciliation Commission, which resulted in the 2015 publication of the 94 Calls to Action.

But many Indigenous leaders say those calls to action fell on deaf ears until recently, when the dramatic events of the past few years became instrumental in provoking this growing public awareness and the recognition that more funding and support for Indigenous people is essential.

Despite obvious need, Indigenous organizations have been historically underfunded. According to a 2022 article by Canadian charity laws, Mark Bloomberg, though Indigenous people make up about 4 .9 % of the Canadian population, in 2019, Indigenous groups received about $1 for every $138 given to non -Indigenous groups, or just over 0 .7 % of gifted funds.

A 2020 charity report on where private foundations spend their money revealed that from a total of $1 .63 billion in grants from 20 private foundations, just 0 .2 % went to support Indigenous organizations. Charity Village spoke to one of the report's authors, charity lawyer Mark Bloomberg, and he had this to say. I've been writing for a couple years with a few other people a report on how almost no money is going to Indigenous groups.

So, you know, it's 50 to 70 million going to Indigenous groups from all the charities in Canada. And that is a tiny amount of money. It's about 150th of the amount of money that they should be getting if you just look at population size and things like that. So it's extraordinarily embarrassing. What is also embarrassing is that public awareness of Indigenous issues tends to fade just as quickly as it emerges.

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According to Janine Manning, executive team lead of the Indigenous Peoples Resilience Fund. Prior to coming to IPRF, I was a fundraiser with an Indigenous health center. And we watched the trends, we watched the reports come through, and it is unique. Indigenous organizations will see an increase in funding depending on the news and the environment. But it will spike and then it'll drop the following year.

which is what we've seen happen a few years back when the first residential school graves were found on site. And that year funding went from 1 % a year to charitable donations in Canada to 3%. The following year it fell to 2 and then back to 1. So it's unfortunate that our communities have to make the news tragically for donors. And I'm talking individual donors, not philanthropic partnerships.

to take notice of the need with Indigenous communities. Senator Ratna Omadvar did take notice of the need and proposed Bill S -216, known as the Effective and Accountable Charities Act, components of which were incorporated into the April 2022 federal budget through amendments to the Income Tax Act.

This legislative change allows charities to have more flexibility in forming partnerships with non -qualified donees or organizations without charitable status, and to provide these organizations with funding without needing to exercise full control over their activities. Behind this reform is an intention to reduce some of the historically colonialist structures of the subtler managed philanthropist funding system.

and allow more free and efficient collaboration with grassroots and community -based organizations. Senator Ratna Omadvar explains. It deals with a stipulation in the Income Tax Act that states that charities can use their charitable dollars in one of two ways. One, they can use the money directly to provide their services, but these services have to be owned activities.

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and two, they can grant dollars to another charity. So the problem is own activities. Those two words, own activities, prevents charities from working in partnership with others who are not charitable because those activities would not be the own activities of the charity. The trouble with the own activities language is that when a charity needs to work,

with a non -charity to advance its charitable purpose, then the only way they can work with the non -charity is by entering into a very arcane workaround, which results in the charity imposing direction and control on the non -charity. Reconciliation is on the top of mind for everyone when a Canadian charity or a Canadian foundation wants to give money to an indigenous

organization that is not a charity, they have to go through the same arrangements. In other words, they have to direct and control them. I don't need to tell your listeners what those two words direct and control mean to Indigenous organizations. This law and the guidance around it is viewed as white saviorism in the developing world and neocolonialism in our

So this law needs to change so that we don't lose what is at the heart of the current law. It's not any intention to be colonial or racist or repressive. Frankly, you know, I think it was written at a time when nobody thought of these things. The intention of the law was to be accountable for charitable dollars. Yes, accountability is important. We can get accountability, but we can get it differently.

and get it equally, but we can do it by doing business differently so that we are not imposing these colonial workarounds on partners who are in the field doing good work. In other words, emancipating the sector to do two things. One, to continue to be accountable to the Canadian public for charitable dollars. That is incredibly important. But two, also to work in an empowered relationships with local partners.

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overseas partners, indigenous organizations, racial minority groups, all these organizations who are doing essential public good but are not charities. The good news for indigenous groups is that the legislative reform removed the requirement for charities to maintain direction and control over activities carried out by non -qualified donies. This allows organizations without charitable status

to more easily receive funding from registered charities and to decide for themselves where to put the funds they receive. The reform has also acted as a catalyst for the nonprofit sector to explore new ways to support Indigenous communities in, as Senator Omadvar describes, an empowered relationship.

One notable example of a charity that has recognized the need for a better way to support Indigenous community groups is the United Way Greater Toronto. As part of their reconciliation and action plan, the United Way GTA reached out to Indigenous community members to learn about the roadblocks that they were facing when it came to seeking funding. One of those leaders was Frances Sanderson, a member of Whitefish River First Nation.

and Executive Director of the non -profit Indigenous Housing Provider, Nishnabee Homes. Frances Sanderson explains how her conversation with the United Way led to the formation of the Indigenous Partnership Council. Well, in a meeting with the Greater Toronto United Way, they asked, how come your community is not asking for

putting an application in for funding for projects or what's going on. And I told them point blank, it was too difficult. It was onerous. We didn't have the capacity for doing it. When we did put applications in, they were not given the opportunity. So sitting with the executive director of the United Way, the president,

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We had long conversation. And one of the things they said was, how can we work better? And they said, you have to build a trust. You have to do something to make yourself known. You have to develop a partnership with the community. You can't just put it out, you know, an application form and expect them to come back. You have to be invited. You don't go to someone's house unless you're invited.

and we weren't going to the United Way's house unless we were invited. And so that kind of broke down and they said, how can we do it better? And it sort of grew from there. During her conversations with the United Way, Frances Sanderson proposed the idea of starting an Indigenous -led committee that would develop programs and allocate funding for Indigenous organizations. The United Way Greater Toronto supported this.

and by the end of 2021, the Indigenous Partnership Council was created. Its members include representation from Indigenous educational facilities, shelters, housing and social service organizations. Developing partnerships with so many different Indigenous groups was made easier by the fact that Frances Sanderson is also the president of the Toronto Aboriginal Social Service Council.

which is a table of 23 Indigenous organizations in Toronto. Before the establishment of the Indigenous Partnership Council, Frances Sanderson says there was little opportunity for Indigenous -led organizations to access funding to achieve their goals. This was an opportunity to open the doors and quite frankly funding is the main reason which is what we are lacking.

And so this was an opportunity to have access to funding and to move our agenda forward, to move our educational needs forward, to move our housing needs forward, our health needs. All these were badly lacking. We were having to forgo a number of things. So with the partnership

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that we were developing with United Way, it opened a lot of doors for us and gave us opportunity that we didn't have before. Prior to the legislative reform sponsored by Senator Omanvar, Frances Sanderson says there were too many restrictions on the granting of funds and that as Indigenous led organizations, they had very little say over how to spend the money that they were granted. When we had received funding from

each of the level of government. There were restrictions. If we're going to give you this much money, then you spend it on these activities. We have always been told what we need, what's good for us, what's best for us, where we should live, how we should live. When I get a mosquito bite, I'm told where I can scratch. And that was coming very onerous, and it was very tiring.

So one of the things we said is we know where that money is needed. It was during the pandemic when unrestricted funds became more available that things started to change. We found that out through the pandemic when we did have access to unrestricted funds. The government and the lenders soon found out that we did know where the money should be going and our community was better for it.

the people who were funding us were better for it. The community, our organizations became stronger. And so this led to this feeling that perhaps we do know what's best for our people. And so that became the nucleus for the development was that if you give us money, don't dictate where it has to go when we know where it needs to go.

So we developed the critical path for that funding. A vital foundation for developing this path for funding is the building of trust between settler and Indigenous organizations. Frances Sanderson explains. No one ever goes into a relationship with someone that is very meaningful and is going to change the direction of a community.

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without having some trust that they're going to listen to what you say, hear what you say, and act on what you say. And so we tried with the United Way by offering our hand, by saying, yes, we'll sit down with you. They said, you know, tell us what's wrong. And we thought, do we actually come straight forward and tell you exactly what's wrong? Because it's very difficult to be that honest right off the bat.

But they took it well. They responded well. They responded with concrete change to what they were doing, which showed that they had trust in what we were saying. One concrete way the United Way responded to the trust being developed with the Indigenous Partnership Council was with an initial investment of $1 .5 million, dedicated to Council -identified priorities.

Frances Sanderson says the opportunity to control how the funds were spent allowed the council to start with their first priority, to support the healing of the Indigenous communities they serve. It's the largest possibility. We are very excited to have them carve off that funding specifically for our needs. So it was ultimately the point of the whole council to look at opportunities.

What would we spend this money on? We had to be very careful that it was not frivolous in any nature, that it was going to be lasting, that it was going to make an impact. So one of the first things that we had discussed was a healing center. I'm not sure if you or your listeners are aware that there is much baggage. And with the truth and reconciliation,

report that came down much history that had to be rectified. And with the rectification of that history, the things that had happened over the years, there's a lot of healing that must be done. And so developing, and we're still in the process of developing this healing facility, an organization, a place where people can go and get the help that they need.

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So that's become one of the ultimate goals is to do that. The council's second goal is to alleviate the housing challenges Indigenous people face. We also have a huge housing problem that is very difficult to meander through or navigate. There is a great deal of racism when it comes to Indigenous housing that's not felt by a lot of other organizations.

or other nationalities. For a number of reasons, we never did develop a neighborhood unlike where you can go to Greek town and run into all kinds of proprietors that service the Greek community or the real Indian neighborhoods.

Frances Sanderson says none of this important work would have been possible without the evolution of the more empowered relationship Indigenous Partnership Council developed with the United Way Greater Toronto. She shares her thoughts on what it takes for subtler and Indigenous led organizations to work together. You know, it's almost like a new language. You're learning something new. You're trying to take on the culture and understand it while not walking on eight shells, but by

being brutally honest, and this is one of the things that we found with the United Way. We said there are no stupid questions. There is nothing that we can't answer and help. We know that the educational side of it is the most important. Seeing it through the Indigenous lens, to see things the way we see it, to understand what we bring to the table, understanding our culture, actually changing.

the direction of the United Way to understand who we are, where we come from, and what we need. We'd like all the departments to understand what it is we're looking for, what would put us all on a level playing field. And so I think we found that. And it comes from the top down. It comes from the leadership, and it filters its way down to all levels of

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management and administration at the United Way.

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One of the United Way leaders who was instrumental in developing the organization's Reconciliation and Equity Action Plan, as well as the Indigenous Partnership Council, was Nation Chong, now Vice President of Community Impact and Mobilization for United Way Greater Toronto. Nation Chong describes his efforts to work better with Indigenous communities and the Indigenous -led organizations

ultimately leading to the establishment of the Indigenous Partnership Council. I'll take you back to 2017. At the time, we were taking an intentional effort to drive diversity and inclusion across the community service sector and all the funded partners that we work with. And at that point, number of Indigenous leaders, leaders of Indigenous -led community services, as matter of fact, said to us,

We are not part of the diversity and inclusion conversation. The relationship with Indigenous communities centers on treaties, centers on land rights, centers on self -determination. And so if you want to have that discussion with us, we need to have a separate conversation that is not under the auspice of diversity and inclusion, but under the auspice of truth and reconciliation.

This initial insight led the United Way to hire its first senior manager of Indigenous collaboration to help them accomplish two objectives. One, deepen their relationship with Indigenous leaders in the Greater Toronto Area. And two, map out key priorities to start thinking about how to invest and do research and public policy differently. Then the pandemic hit and immediate community needs took over.

bringing all strategic planning to a halt. And United Way Greater Toronto received another important message from leaders of the Indigenous community, as Nation Shang describes. At that juncture, some of the senior leaders of Indigenous -led community services approached United Way, engaged our CEO and said, let's start over. It's great that you have staff, but we need something broader. We need a deeper relationship with United Way that isn't just about

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allocating dollars to community services, but thinking through it together hand in hand what the big picture is for a growing population of urban Indigenous folks who span First Nation, Métis, Inuit, etc. This act of thinking through together and working hand in hand

was manifested in a gathering at Evergreen Brickworks, where about eight leaders of Indigenous community services came together representing Toronto, Peel and York Region. On that day, everything shifted. A different tone was set. We ensured that our CEO, Daniel Izanari, was there. We also ensured our board of directors, our board chair was there, Dr. Paduk Kempot. And that was important because it signalled to the community.

that this commitment to work differently, to step into our responsibilities as a philanthropic organization to address truth and reconciliation was all the way through the organization. This wasn't just a senior manager showing up. This was the CEO, this was the board chair and senior staff showing up for this important conversation. And the first conversation was about truth -telling. And it was a leader in a very emotional opening who said,

Whatever we do from this point forward, whatever we say from this point forward, has to lead to self -determination. If it does not lead to self -determination, we're heading down the wrong path. And I thought that was critical because it's set the tone, the frame, and the stable stakes for all of the work that has followed since. That work led to the development of a vital starting point for self -determination.

the establishment of the Indigenous Partnership Council. The United Way learned from listening to the Indigenous leaders that they needed to take concrete action to show their commitment. And so we started to draft the terms of reference because it was clear from the feedback we heard that this has to be more than just conversations. People wanted to see something substantive. People wanted to see something that was endorsed by the board of directors and senior staff to...

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demonstrate that it had teeth and that it was a commitment that United Way was stepping into. And so the staff were tasked to build that terms of reference and to vet it with their members of the forming Indigenous Partnership Council. Once the terms of reference were vetted, the United Way Greater Toronto further demonstrated their commitment through a significant allocation of funds. NationChang explains.

United Way here marked $1 .5 million to the full governance of the Indigenous Partnership Council. Again, to demonstrate unequivocally the commitment to self -determination. so the IPC has full governance over that 1 .5 million. In addition to increased investment through our regular funding streams, which is our programming and our anchor funding stream. And the group honed in on

building a healing lodge, an Indigenous -led healing lodge that would bridge clinical services with cultural healing practices and cultural restoration for Indigenous folks across Peel York and Toronto. So we had, now we have a vision, we have an objective. We've got $1 .5 million. I asked Nation to describe the ways in which the United Way Greater Toronto tried to work differently with the Indigenous Partnership Council than it had in the past.

The simplest way to describe that is to say that when we sat with the council, because of historical relationships and because United Way holds the purse string and is often the power broker in the space, intentional or otherwise, it kind of default to a particular dynamic. And so we had to be explicit and intentional that we wanted to change that dynamic.

And it took two or three meetings to say to the folks at the table, this is your table. This is not our table. You are leading. We are seeking direction from you. And I think that was necessary to repeat, to shift the mindset and practice and also to demonstrate that that is how we're showing up. We're showing up with this openness to say, we've agreed on this terms of reference. took about three or four meetings to get that right. And one of the

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most affirming comments that we heard from an elder in the group was, you're listening. I can see clearly that you're listening to us because our words are in those terms of reference. And you have taken time to vet and ensure that our values are embedded in these terms of reference. The reference to the medicine wheel is an example of how we try to overlay the values of the medicine wheel with those terms of reference.

As much as I think we got 95 % of it right, the tweaking of language to be very, very explicit that it is by and for Indigenous peoples was made really clear. In addition to careful consideration of language, Nation Chong explains that the United Way needed to learn to work at a different pace and with a different mindset. Moving at the pace of trust,

versus moving at an agenda that I need to get these deliverables done by such and such a date is the difference maker. Moving at the pace of trust is the critical difference. And sometimes that means putting aside our timelines for a little bit and just saying, as long as we're not compromising this delicate fabric of trust that we need to rebuild and hold on to, we're in the right place. Many Indigenous leaders agree that this concept of moving at the pace of trust

is a crucial aspect of decolonizing the antiquated notions of white saviorism that have historically underpinned the attitudes and structures of the Canadian charitable legislative framework. Tim Fox, Vice President of Indigenous Relations and Equity Strategy of the Calgary Foundation, echoes the sentiment that settler -led charities wanting to collaborate with Indigenous -led organizations

need to learn to work at a different pace, with a different mindset, and even with different goals and practices that deepen and honor relationships. He describes what that might look like. We continue to convene seasonally an Indigenous network gathering that brings together both Indigenous and non -Indigenous charities. We continue to gather seasonally. We come together. We do not practice any kind of Robert's Wheel of Water.

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Any kind of colonial way of gathering and meeting is thrown out the window. We're sitting in circle. We're being our true selves. We're incorporating medicine. We're sitting in dialogue and we're healing together. We are laughing together. We're just being in right relations. I think if I could broadcast one of those meetings and show the world what it's like to really conveniently be in that space, this is what we're trying to work to. Trying to work to this holistic attitude, this way of life that really honors

what it means to be in a relationship with each other, with the land and spirituality, to really be in, to really show what it means to be Indigenous. That's where we get our strengths from. Tim Fox has a unique perspective on the philanthropic sector and its evolving work with Indigenous communities because he embodies a unique intersectionality. He is both Indigenous, he's a member of the Blackfoot Confederacy from the Blood Reserve.

and he holds a leadership position at a charitable foundation. From his vantage point, over the years, he's experienced the evolution of how settler -led charities and indigenous -led organizations are creating new, more equitable, and respectful partnerships to better achieve their objectives. In his role at the Calgary Foundation, Tim Fox has seen some encouraging developments by staying committed to the communities the foundation serves.

building trust and stronger relationships, resulting in more Indigenous organizations applying for funding. We're staying consistent in what we have always promised to do since we began to focus on this area and that's just to maintain a relationship with the surrounding Treaty 7 communities including the Métis Nation communities and the Indigenous Light charities in and around the urban centre of Calgary. I say Indigenous Light just because there are tons of other non -Indigenous

agencies and organizations that are providing indigenous specific supports. And that's a really exciting thing as well that's always existed. The difference was the amount of support that the non -indigenous agencies providing indigenous specific supports were receiving versus an indigenous led organization. And I feel like if we can get to a place where that's a little bit more balanced, that's what I would like to see.

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Tim Fox says the Calgary Foundation is committed to continuing to explore new ways to break down antiquated colonial -based systems to develop new anti -oppressive ones by working together with and listening to the Indigenous community. I know everything that we've done at the Foundation has really been based on experimentation. We lean on a lot of system change ideologies. So our friends at the Tribe of Change Studio help us deliver.

a system change retreat every year called Active Reconciliation. It's coming up in October. And we always invite the charity into that space. Charity or two. And in the past we've had charities like Calgary Legal Guidance, Fort Calgary, which is not Fort Calgary anymore. They changed their name. Charlies has been there. Hall Homes. Tons of agencies have come over the past. This is our fifth year entering into the system change retreat. I can say that it's pretty transformational. We're not only talking about

systems change, we're also at pretty good levels of what it looks like to be anti -oppressive, what it looks like to be culturally appropriate. To me, that's really listening to the community. From his unique perspective, Tim Fox has learned that for real systems change in a charitable organization to succeed, a diversity of perspectives, and especially Indigenous perspectives, has to permeate every level, from leadership to frontline workers.

and every grant program and committee to make real and lasting impact. Here's Tim Fox to explain. A big level to an organization that can either hinder or support and move this work forward is that board of director level. And if that board of director level is not open to being a part of this work, if they aren't understanding that it's not easy to measure the success of a changing system,

by numbers or by surveys. And that's all they're used to seeing. They have so much power. They have the ability to stop it. So it's not just the organizations. It's the leadership that has that big influence on these organizations as well. So it's the whole organization. It's every single actor that makes up that organization. That's the approach I've always taken. I was in the beginning asked, do you want to start your own specific indigenous fund?

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Do you want to create your own Indigenous Spets Committee? I said, no. Like, that's siloing the work. I want to bring on more Indigenous volunteers as committee viewers. I want to see them throughout every committee. And same thing with our staff and our board of representation. So since then, we've seen that growing diversity of perspectives that is making a huge difference. actually impacting internal systems change because that wheel of change suggests

What's up? person's heart and their mind are shifted. Their behaviour is going to change and then that behaviour will lead to some that structural change. It's easy for me to say that because I'm involved in work on a day -to -day basis but I don't know if I would have been as confident in having that perspective of three years ago when we first spoke. Very to now that I see some of that, the needle is shifting. Simple is happening towards the direction of what I think reconciliation can be. And so for other organisations it's...

Yes, it's tough. Yes, it requires resourcing. But really, when it comes down to it, what is stopping you? What is stopping you? Is the question that I would encourage people to ask.

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When the pandemic started, Indigenous adults of all ages were prioritized for vaccination. Clinics were set up in remote communities that lacked infrastructure to deal with an outbreak. And many Indigenous people, wherever they live, have underlying health conditions making them vulnerable to pandemics. But we know a majority of Indigenous people actually live in cities. And those underlying health conditions don't shed once they leave the reserve.

Yet, while vaccination services travel to remote communities, meeting people where they were, the access wasn't the same in cities. Last week, we announced more funding to support the most urgent needs of Indigenous communities dealing with the COVID -19 outbreak. We must adapt our approach and our programs to recognize and meet the particular needs of all Indigenous peoples, including those living in urban areas and off reserve.

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against the backdrop of the pandemic and the heightened awareness of the critical needs of Indigenous communities. And around the same time that the Indigenous Partnership Council was being established to facilitate a more empowered relationship with the United Way Greater Toronto that allowed the Indigenous -led organization greater self -determination over how granted funds were spent, another new relationship between a settler -led charitable foundation

and an indigenous -led organization was being developed. As the first indigenous person to chair a private family foundation in Canada, Janine Manning is a leader dedicated to including indigenous people in building community abundance through the decolonization and redistribution of wealth. Janine Manning is Anishinaabe and a member of the Chippewa of Nahuash Unceded First Nation.

and identifies as urban Indigenous, having been born and grown up in Toronto. Now the executive team leader of the Indigenous Peoples Resilience Fund, Janine Manning tells us how this initiative came into existence. IPR started in 2020 with the onset of the pandemic discussions we had about Indigenous communities being left behind in the economic responses and outreach during that time.

So these conversations began with seed funders on how to support Indigenous communities and how to engage the larger philanthropic sector to do just that. And then in 2021, the conversation about having a legacy fund began kind of akin to what Western philanthropy would call an endowment. And we wanted to do it in our own way. And the idea is to manage the fund, the capital akin to how we would do stewardship and

many traditional territories and family hunting grounds guided by the principles of taking only what you need and using all of it and leave enough for those to come behind. In 2022, the Indigenous Peoples Resilience Fund received its charitable status and developed their first strategic plan with a direction to meet communities where they were at through a trust -based philanthropy approach. Janine Manning describes their vision.

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that we would work within the relations of all to live well. This really acknowledges that Indigenous communities are not homogenous. We don't take a pan -Indigenous approach. We recognize that from coast to coast to coast, every Indigenous community is unique. And our ambition vision or statement, as you would call it, is grounded in the values of the people served.

we honor the voices of Indigenous communities and organizations. So really trying to emphasize that we're led by community and formed by community to benefit community. We're looking at doing a long -term resilience fund. So it would be multi -year and increased amounts to the bundles. And yeah, we're really excited. We envision a very abundant future where we take the view that money is medicine for restorative purposes.

IPERF's work is rooted in the Philanthropic Declaration of Action, which was a response to the TRC. You know, a group of folks in philanthropy came together when they did not see charity or not -for -profit or philanthropy mentioned in the 94 Calls to Action, and they developed a framework to encourage and create brave spaces to encourage support of Indigenous charities through that reconciliation lens.

On June 1, 2015, a group of Canadian philanthropic organizations and individual funders presented a collective Declaration of Action to the closing session of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission in Ottawa. Signatories pledged, among other things, to work towards reconciliation and the implementation of the spirit, intent and content

of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission's recommendations, and to ensure that the philanthropic community is engaged in the work of reconciliation. They agree not only to learn and remember and understand and acknowledge the tragedy of the residential school system and its effects on Indigenous communities, but also to participate and to act by sharing networks and resources, building relationships with Indigenous communities, and supporting the TRC's findings and recommendations.

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In the spirit of viewing philanthropy through the reconciliation lens, in the words of Janine Manning, in March, 2023, the McConnell Foundation made a $30 million capital transfer to community focused indigenous led foundations, beginning with a transfer of $10 million to the Indigenous Peoples Resilience Fund. Janine Manning explains what was so important about this asset transfer. That was a huge.

leap of faith or leap into trust -based philanthropy to have our philanthropic partners trust that we as Indigenous folks working in the philanthropic space were in tune with communities and that they had trusted us to steward this support on their behalf. What it's going to enable us to do is create that long -term bundle program. So we have historically dispersed through our bundle program five to thirty thousand dollars.

project and now we'll be able to increase that funding upwards to $100 ,000 a year for multiple years for those projects that really have the ability to have long -term impact and sustainability in their community and really need more than a one -time bundle of $5 to $30 ,000. So we're really excited about that and so we're really grateful for McConnell's support there. It's a multi -year support so for us it's a very historical time and

that it represents growth, I think, for us as an organization and for the community members that are going to benefit from it. Jane Rabinowitz is the McConnell Foundation's Chief Executive Officer, and she describes what led to the Foundation's work with the Indigenous Peoples Resilience Fund. In March, I think, 2023, we celebrated 20 years of working in reconciliation. So 20 years since McConnell made its first grant, and that was to the First Nations Caring Society.

And so it's been a long journey and it's a journey of relationship building, of learning, of granting, of investing. So really across the whole organization, our staff, our board has led us to make reconciliation one of our three main granting focus areas. And also that led us to make the commitment of a $30 million capital transfer to Indigenous -led community foundations. We made that overall commitment in 2023.

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with a first specific commitment of 10 million to the Indigenous Peoples Resilience Fund. Jane Rabinowitz explains what was important about the foundation making the contribution as an asset transfer. I think the foundation for a while has been committed to using all of our levers for impact and an asset transfer is a new one. So it's not an impact investment, it's not a grant, it's really about

shifting resources from our endowment into the endowment of Indigenous -led organizations. And having an endowment, we know that that gives us agency. So we have our board has the agency to decide how that money is allocated in community. If you're truly committed to Indigenous leadership and self -determination, then why not support Indigenous organizations in building up endowments so they have that agency to determine how to allocate those resources.

the way that they see fit. Granting the gift of agency to the Indigenous Peoples Resilience Fund through this capital transfer was an action that the McConnell Foundation took after having undergone its own reconciliation work using the Truth and Reconciliation Calls to Action and the Philanthropic Declaration as a guide, as Jane Rabinowitz explains. We have to learn, but also there are these incredible resources and calls to action that exist.

that chart a course for any organization. Philanthropy as a sector is not mentioned in the TRC calls to action, but then we have the declaration, which is specific to philanthropy. And so these resources provide a roadmap for us. And I think the foundation, the internal work, understanding the legacy of trauma, understanding the systemic barriers, the injustices, digging into the resources that exist out there.

allowed us to get to a place of readiness where it was a natural decision. I'm not going to say it was an easy decision, but it was an easier decision because of where we were at as an organization. And I want to emphasize both staff and board because I don't think it works unless everybody is moving forward together. The Foundation now has a program stream dedicated to reconciliation with a focus on economic reconciliation.

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They've aligned their strategy with the National Indigenous Economic Strategy and its calls to achieve financial prosperity. And their funding strategy is based in supporting Indigenous -led organizations. In 2023, we developed partnerships with 12 organizations. We continued our renewed partnerships with 27 organizations. So we work with 39 partners now in our reconciliation focus area. And in 2023,

allocated over $7 million to that work. again, it's one of our core areas of work, working with partners coast to coast to coast. Meanwhile, Jeanine Manning is hopeful that the Indigenous Peoples Resilience Fund will meet its goal of raising $50 million by next year and $250 million within the next four years. IPRF has developed a capitalization strategy that has so far 15 million in capital commitments.

And we will raise $50 million in two years. And hopefully, fingers crossed, and I have the utmost confidence in my team, we will raise $250 million in five years. So hopefully after five years, the fund becomes self -sustaining just through the interest generated alone and will be less dependent on partnerships. And we can focus more on community and developing the bundle programs that they need.

Though the long -term fund as we call it, which will be traditionally known as an endowment fund in Western philanthropy is really based on the principle of looking seven generations ahead. IPRF wants to be around and support the journey for communities. So we have a really long view. And I think it's important to mention that IPRF represents a new way of thinking and doing in the sector regarding our approach to building and sharing capital. So.

We have always given out well past the disbursement quota this year alone, even though we have paused to reflect halfway through the year, we have dispersed 10%. In previous years, it's had been like 40%. So our strategy is also important. We want to improve how money is viewed. So we want to apply that money is medicine.

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model and bring our partners on a restorative journey through their partnership with us. Janine Manning says that any organizations or individuals out there who have an interest in contributing to or partnering with the Indigenous Peoples Resilience Fund should just go ahead and reach out.

I think folks are so interested in the model that we're developing and working on and working with communities that folks have really been responsive and just reached out to say, want to be involved and how can we support and they want to be a part of our journey. So yeah, just reach out. We're really built upon resilience. And so we want to have resilience partnerships also. And if it's about reconciliation.

Like I would encourage philanthropic organizations to really look at that philanthropic community declaration of action to see and bring that into their strategic plan to guide their way down that strategic reconciliation path, if you will, just to help them build braver spaces to be a part of building up Indigenous resilience through philanthropy. Really just don't be shy, reach out. That's kind of how we like to do things.

Settler -led organizations don't always know how to create community or spaces for learning in collaboration with Indigenous -led organizations and communities. But it's fundamental to get it right. NationChang advises other settler -led organizations to start by doing their homework. It's always important to demonstrate that you've done your homework. Like asking questions that have been answered 20 times and you can go on YouTube and get the answer is...

usually received as disingenuous effort because it appears as you're not lifting what you can lift and then showing up to say what more should I learn, what more should I understand. Go and learn that information and show up. That's the starting point. Tim Fox reiterates this point about it being crucial that non -Indigenous people do their own learning

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and be mindful of just who's doing the heavy lifting in the exchange of knowledge with Indigenous peoples. How is it that what we're giving you in terms of our knowledge, how are you mobilizing that? We talk about this notion of knowledge extraction versus knowledge mobilization. And I'm really vocal about this, that if you're inviting us into these spaces, simply to increase your level of understanding, you're being no less extractive than that for you. And I'm talking about the extraction of land.

extraction in resources, extraction in children. You know, it's what you do with that knowledge that really makes a difference. And that's, to us, that's knowledge mobilization. Jane Rabinowitz agrees that settler -led charities have to do the hard work of educating themselves. But she emphasizes the resources are right there, publicly available, in the calls to action of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission and the Philanthropic Declaration.

It's a matter of willingness to take action and be open to learn. Yeah, I I talked about the journey and I think sometimes, you know, our society, we've been facing a number of reckonings recently and in that context prompts you to want to act really quickly to address or redress historical and contemporary injustices. But it's more important to build up knowledge and relationships.

and impact over time. And so, you you have to pay attention to the calls to action of the Truthful and Reconciliation Commission, the philanthropic declaration of action. For us, we focus on economic reconciliation, so there's now the National Indigenous Economic Strategy. Both the Indigenous Partnership Council's collaboration with United Way GTA and the Indigenous Peoples Resilience Fund Asset Transfer from the McConnell Foundation

demonstrate that settler -led and indigenous -led organizations can work together in a new way to promote trust -based philanthropy in empowered relationships grounded in principles of self -determination, trust, and respect. We began this episode with an overview of the objectives of Senator Omadvar's Bill S -216 that was enacted as part of the federal budget to break down the antiquated colonial structures

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that hindered the ability for charities to grant funds to non -charities that, in Canada, include many grassroots community -based organizations on the front line working to support Indigenous communities. I asked our guests whether the legislative reforms have had an overall impact on increasing the amount of funding for Indigenous -led organizations.

Here's Janine Manning of the Indigenous Peoples Resilience Fund with her perspective. It may be a little premature to decide whether it is. I do know that many philanthropic peers are still a bit intimidated, I think, to amending their programs to allow for non -qualified donies. And beyond the non -qualified dony status is the barriers that many philanthropic organizations and public granting.

many barriers they put up with their application reporting process. It's very intimidating for groups of volunteers, which is often what non -qualified don't is. They just don't have the time, capacity or experience to do such things. Part of Janine Manning's work on the decolonization and redistribution of wealth has been to work in the non -Indigenous spaces, such as at Ontario Trillium Laidlaw Foundation to try and take down the grant application barriers. I was the only Indigenous person

And where I went to these spaces to learn, to be a better grantmaker, well, what I found was that I was often teaching folks in those spaces how to understand applications from Indigenous communities, the different language we use, concepts, the importance of some activities. When it's in a pile, I'd see amazing applications from Indigenous groups and people would dismiss it because they didn't understand it. And it's really hard to compare.

Indigenous applications to mainstream applications that are coming in from urban centers or whatnot. So yeah, I found that these spaces of power really, you know, reviewing applications or being on the board, they really need to be inclusive of the community members you're serving. So if you're welcoming applications from Black and Indigenous folks, you need to have those people in those spaces and the governance level.

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as employees to give you that perspective, that lens to help you on your journey with those communities to be in better relationship with those communities. Tim Fox of the Calgary Foundation agrees it may be too early to know if legislative reforms will have a substantial impact on increasing funding for Indigenous communities. But he's hopeful it will and is seeing encouraging signs.

But at the end of the day, he emphasizes it's up to the charities and foundations and encourages them to keep the dialogue going that will raise awareness and drive change over time. I'm hopeful that it will. I think it's too early to tell right now. The legislative changes that have occurred are now in the hands of the organization. So they have to restructure their own processes, which is something that we're also doing. So it's too early to tell if that change has made a significant difference.

What I do know is that just by the fact that there's other foundations reaching out and you have this area of focus and interest is exciting to me, it's promising. The real sort of test, whether or not that's going to make a difference is if they are adjusting, revising, or creating some sort of sideline for indigenous communities to access their dive funding or their opportunities. We know through the pandemic,

and how quickly we were able to respond, how flexible we were able to be in those really hard times that it is possible. So I think, you know, historically it's like, well, we really can't do this. We can't do this because of this policy. And it's just like, well, we just proved through a whole global health crisis that we can actually make the change that we need to do. And so it's really your podcast like this is through conversations like this, dialogue like this, that we really have to push that and have them realize, there is something that

do, what is stopping you is this unconscious bias for whatever reason, if they're not doing anything, but I don't really see that basically happen. I see more of an upswing and I see more support or interest in supporting, which is then leading to behavioral change, which is then leading to, we need to change this application process. It's kind of problematic overall. It's incremental, but when you want to do things right, I think you need to take the time and you need to involve the community as well.

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Frances Sanderson of the Indigenous Partnership Council agrees that creating dialogue to share the strategies and approaches discussed in this episode and adapting them to your own organization is a great way to start to develop a new, empowered, and equitable relationship with Indigenous communities, as long as you include the basic ingredients of trust -building, learning, equity, and respect.

You know, it's kind of like having your mother's recipe for, I don't know, oatmeal cookies. That's a good recipe and it works and everybody likes it. But there's nothing that says you can't put raisins in them. There's nothing that says you can't alternate. The basic cookie dough is there. That's what you're looking for. This is the basic means, process to develop a relationship with the Indigenous community.

There's no reason why it can't work with other foundations and funders. There's no reason why it shouldn't work. All you need is the basic recipe, which we are developing and we're honing and we're making more streamline every time. But there's got to be someone who believes there's a future for it.

There is clearly still much work to be done to ensure that Indigenous groups gain increased access to more funding, along with greater self -determination and decision -making power over how the funds are used to support their own communities. But the leaders we spoke with in this episode have navigated the challenges to reimagine and rebuild their relationships and forge a new path toward

trust -based philanthropy to support Indigenous communities. With cautious optimism, our guests share their advice on how the sector can continue to do better. Tim Fox from the Calgary Foundation says acknowledging the lessons of history and the 94 calls to action of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission are the real turning points that lead to transformative change. I always try to encourage people.

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Not to aspire to be an ally. That shouldn't be your motivation. Your motivation should come from the fact and the realization that severe genocide has occurred, attempts at assimilation and oppression continues to happen today, and you're inspired to right the wrongs of that past and change the trajectory in the future for the well -being of indigenous people. It's your actions that show your allyship status, not the fact that you wouldn't be an ally. are needed.

But it's this context that we want to really try to change. Now that we're knowledgeable about this history, it implicates us to do something. Now we know better. We have to do better. But that doesn't mean that we have to stop talking about it. I think if they can begin to really look at the structure of what makes them an organization, do a deep dive into their organizational script, there's opportunities. I don't want them to be overwhelmed by the challenges.

How can they sort of shift the way they think about these challenges? There's actually possibilities. And once that happens, I think they will begin to see that that's a leverage point for them to realize specific policy change that has to happen. Janine Manning of the Indigenous Peoples Resilience Fund says it's about commitment and active learning. The only thing that's stopping philanthropic organizations is themselves.

I've met with many folks in the sector who are afraid of getting it wrong and I always tell people that there's no error so wrong that you can't undo it. There's no relationship I don't think that you can't repair but just do this with intention, the best intention with community at the centre and commit to actively learning year over year and let the communities lead, let them tell you what they need and ask them, ask them.

how it is they want to be in reciprocal relationships so that you can disrupt that power imbalance and make it less transactional. Frances Sanderson from the Indigenous Partnership Council urges charities to begin the dialogue and listen to Indigenous people about what is needed to help their communities. Reach out, invite them for a cup of coffee, cup of tea, go to where they are.

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We're not always going to go to somebody else's house unless we're invited. So go to where they are, offer the opportunity to sit and talk and find out what does this organization do? How could you, Mr. Foundation, how could you help? What resources do you have to help? It may be just advice resources. Doesn't always have to be 100 % financial. It might be human resources.

But open the door and ask, knock on that door and see who we are, what we're doing. We're not just sitting there looking after our people as best we can. We do want prosperity. We do want to move up. We do want a level playing field. Nation Chung from United Way Greater Toronto believes leadership must be engaged and involved throughout. I would recommend putting decision makers at the table.

and ensuring even if those decision makers can't be there for every meeting that there is an organizational commitment and you can see it in the budget. My last comment is the strategy is good, the plans are good, the vision and the objectives and the relationship is essential. But if you haven't put it in your budget, you're not serious. It has to be in your budget because this work costs money. You need the right staff persons and then

When the work starts to take foot and get some ground, you need the resources to support it. Otherwise, you'll lose trust, you'll lose face, and we'll lose people at the table. And finally, Jane Rabinowitz from the McConnell Foundation says it starts with relationship building, with humility and an open heart. I would recommend building relationships.

Oftentimes when you're a funder, the onus is on the partner to come and seek you out and to approach you. But as a funder, to build relationships, to get out there, to go into community, to go see people in their playground, trying to shift the power dynamic a little bit. So building relationships, I think be humble, coming from a place of an open heart and a desire to learn and a desire to unlearn and to engage. To not let fear of making mistakes prevent you from taking action.

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And so I've emphasized a lot, like learning and not rushing and taking time. But at the same time, if you focus only on your own learning, you could just be extracting knowledge from folks to whom you really should be making gifts. So this notion of acting and learning simultaneously. So not to act out of an impulse to make things better or for guilt, but acting with purpose and being informed and then learning alongside that.

And then the last piece I would say is to consider your spheres of influence and all of your levers for change. So it's not just granting, it's not just investing, it's not just a capital transfer. It's also voice, it's also influence, it's also opening doors. So it's really looking at all of your levers to change and putting them to work. I'd like to thank all of our guests for joining us and sharing their wisdom, lived experiences, valuable insights and advice.

to help nonprofit organizations on their reconciliation journeys towards better, more equitable and respectful ways to support Indigenous communities. Be sure to visit our website and our show notes for more information on the resources, reports and programs mentioned in this episode. If you'd like to hear more of what our guests have to say, check out their full video interviews on our website.

Charity Village is proud to be the Canadian source for nonprofit news, employment services, crowdfunding, e -learning, HR resources and tools, and so much more. Please take a moment to check out our website at charityvillage .com. In our next episode, creating accessible workplaces in the nonprofit sector. According to the 2022 Canadian Survey on Disability, the employment rate for persons with disabilities currently sits at 62%.

While this figure has risen in recent years, it's clear that more work can be done to create more inclusive and accessible workplaces for Canadians with disabilities. In the next episode of Charity Village Connects, we talk to accessibility experts from across the sector to find out about the challenges and barriers that contribute to this employment gap, along with what non -profit organizations like yours can do to address these barriers within workplaces,

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programming and communities. I'm Mary Barrell. Thanks for listening.