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The New Mom Podcast is a Christian motherhood podcast for women navigating pregnancy, postpartum, and early motherhood.
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Welcome back to New Mom. Today, I sat down with my sweet neighbor, Kasey Robinson, who is four weeks postpartum with her beautiful daughter, Skylar. Kasey had to have a planned C section when she found out that her daughter was breech when she was, I believe, 37 and had a planned C section at 30 eight weeks. So she tells us her birth story, talks about sort of just how she processed the disappointment of not being able to have the delivery she'd hoped for, but how God met her in the C section. We touch a lot on recovery and also just postpartum.
Carrie:Her husband is back at work. We're kind of back in the trenches talking about those early weeks of motherhood. So if you are a new mom who is in the trenches of postpartum in those early weeks, this is for you. Also might be for you if you are a pregnant mom who is potentially having to have a C section or worried about having a C section. She speaks a lot of life over it and gives a lot of, just helpful testimony of what her experience was like.
Carrie:So without further ado, here's my sweet New Mom friend, Kasey. Okay, Kasey. Hi. Welcome back to New Mom.
Kasey:Thanks for having me again.
Carrie:Yeah. I was gonna say I'm saying back because you were on maybe a month ago, and then we had a little technical difficulty. So we did not hear that episode. So I texted you and I'm like, can
Kasey:you come back? No. Glad to be here.
Carrie:I'm glad to have you. You were super super pregnant when we recorded.
Kasey:And I was literally thirty nine weeks
Carrie:Yeah.
Kasey:Which is crazy.
Carrie:That's you were like three days before I think you had I think you came in on a Monday and maybe you had Skyler on Thursday or something like that. Yeah. And, anyway, clearly no longer pregnant. You're like very much a new mom. Mhmm.
Carrie:And you welcomed your little girl how many weeks ago now?
Kasey:She's she just hit a month. So or I guess, like, a month and three days now.
Carrie:But So you're literally complete new mom status.
Kasey:Fresh postpartum. Yeah. Yeah. It's been great. So my mother-in-law is watching her, so I can this is my first time, like, away from her.
Carrie:Oh my gosh. This is big. Thank you for coming. Oh. Down the street were neighbors, by way.
Carrie:Yeah. Gonna say
Kasey:it's a little bit easy.
Carrie:Strolled over. Yeah. Yeah. My
Kasey:mother-in-law being here is just, like, a blessing. So it's a little
Carrie:bit easier to be like, can you
Kasey:just take her
Carrie:for To, like, leave in. Yeah.
Kasey:I bet. It feels weird. I was, like, walking and I'm I'm like, where's my little mini me? Or, like, my she's attached
Carrie:to me twenty four seven. Totally. And especially when you're nursing fully. Right? Mhmm.
Carrie:Yeah. It's the weirdest thing ever. You're like, wait. Can I leave? Like, am I I guess I just have to be back in time to feed them?
Kasey:Like It's like the smallest window. You feed and then you're like, okay.
Carrie:This is the time. Go.
Kasey:Go. Yeah. Literally, we're always like, okay. I feed and then this is when we're gonna go to the store. This is when gonna go for a walk or like whatever, but it's it's it's clockwork at
Carrie:this point. It's is yeah. I had a guest on a few weeks ago and we were talking after the episode and she's like, I gotta go. Like, my boobs are calling. Like, they're leaking.
Carrie:I gotta go feed my baby.
Kasey:It is a surreal breastfeeding is there's nothing like it. It's crazy.
Carrie:It's, like, so beautiful and also, like very challenging for a lot of us and like yeah. It's it's such a push and pull. Yeah. I wanna get into that for you. But I guess before I do, tell me a little bit about yourself and like, you know, where you're from, how how long you've been married.
Carrie:And obviously we know you just had your daughter. And then specifically I wanna talk about, kind of like your delivery and your C section and kind of get into all of that. But give us just like a little brief intro before we go. Go. Also, we're neighbors, like we said.
Carrie:That's how I know Kasey. She's my beautiful, wonderful neighbor.
Kasey:Yeah. We just randomly met. I saw them moving in, I was like, hey. They look young and cute. Let's introduce ourselves.
Carrie:The cutest pregnant girl ever. I thought she was like, mid second trimester, like, in, like, the cute pregnancy phase. Because you were in the cute pregnancy phase. You're like, oh, no. I'm, like, thirty three weeks or whatever.
Carrie:Were. Was like, why? You look amazing.
Kasey:Yeah. That was You were
Carrie:rocking it. You're a very cute pregnant girl.
Kasey:The Lord blessed me. I don't know. I was just thankful that I didn't you know, you never know how much you don't know what pregnancy can be like for you and if you're gonna gain more weight than you think or not. So I was I was grateful that I didn't gain a ton of weight, but at the same time, like some of that actually is what caused the c section because of like being breached everything. There's probably a little bit more complications because I wasn't gaining the weight that needed to be gained.
Kasey:So she couldn't flip.
Carrie:Oh, that's so interesting. Okay. Try. Didn't hear that. We'll to do that.
Carrie:Yeah.
Kasey:Yeah. So I, again, my name is Kasey, but I am from Michigan. We moved to Nashville about two years ago. Me and my husband, my husband and I met at Liberty University in Virginia. I played soccer there and he played football, which is super fun being like athletes and meeting each other and navigating college together.
Kasey:And we started dating junior year during COVID, which is kind of funny and crazy. COVID was wild in college. And then, got engaged a year after, school and then got a married got married a year after engagement. And then a year and a half into our marriage, we found out we were pregnant with our daughter, which was surreal. It was one of those, we decided to try and got pregnant on our first one.
Carrie:Amazing. It's such a blessing to be that.
Kasey:That that can happen. You, like, think, okay. No. We're gonna give ourselves six months to, like, prep for a baby or whatever and, like, no. It it works sometimes.
Kasey:Gosh.
Carrie:Yeah. It it actually is, like, so important to remember that because I feel like first, you hear so many of the stories of, like, hey, you know, start trying knowing that it could take a while because everybody gives you that advice and and you know it can for a lot of us. But I've had numerous friends
Kasey:that say that where they're
Carrie:like, okay. Also, when you do start trying, know that it can happen because sometimes you're weeks later. Yeah. You're like, I'm gonna be a mom now. Yeah.
Carrie:That's so amazing.
Kasey:Yeah. So we got pregnant and then, found out she was a girl. We did some we did genetic testing at ten weeks and then found out she was a girl, which was I totally thought I was having a boy. So I was in complete shock when I found out we were having a girl. But I feel like the Lord completely blessed us in that because I think deep down I to be honest, I wanted a boy.
Kasey:Thought I'd be a boy mom, grew up with brothers, a bunch of, boy cousins, like that was my life. It was just being around boys when I was a kid. And so I totally just pictured myself as a boy mom. But I think the Lord completely, like, just blessed us with having a girl of like, no, you're gonna you're gonna navigate like being having a daughter and what it was like for you when you were a kiddo. And I think I get to, like, pour into her in so much of the ways that I not that I didn't have when I was a kid, but, like, I think I can, like, pour into her of things that I didn't have.
Kasey:Yeah.
Carrie:That's so cool. If that
Kasey:makes sense.
Carrie:It's also just like a different side of you if you're on boys all the time, like, to get to like, explore the feminine side. Yeah. Like, having a little mini like, little bestie.
Kasey:Yeah. No. And I haven't like, I've gained a sister-in-law recently, but, like, before that, I hadn't had, like you have friends and everything, but there's nothing, like, truly having, like, family girl Totally.
Carrie:Like sisters. Yeah. It's a very special feminine little connection for sure.
Kasey:Yeah. And I think I missed out on that. And I think there's a part of me that wishes I kind of had that relationship or someone in my life that was like that. Of course, I'm super close to my mom, but I never had that connection. I think it'll be really cool for me to like build that into my daughter and kind
Carrie:of So sweet.
Kasey:Maybe give her encouragement, things like that I didn't have. Yeah. I love it. So the Lord blessed us with that. But now we're in Nashville and it's been it's been absolutely wonderful.
Kasey:And we moved into our house almost a year ago now and this neighborhood is a dream.
Carrie:It it really is. This neighborhood is like it's it's picturesque in like the sweetest way. It's like family is, you know, playing in the driveway and now it's summertime, so you got the pool going all the time and it's the best. Like sometimes I'll just peek my head out like the the back door when I'm cooking or something, like open the door a little bit. You just hear kids screaming about the pool Yeah.
Carrie:In like the sweetest little way. Like it sounds like that could be obnoxious, but it's it warms my heart so much. I love it.
Kasey:I love it. And now that the weather's nice, you're like, oh my gosh. All these people are coming out here. Like, I've never met you before because it's been winter and nobody's out walking. But now everybody's out walking and talking with you and it's it's super sweet in the summer.
Carrie:Imagine this is a really like, obviously, Archie's one, but I imagine if you have a newborn, it's a great neighborhood to be in because it's so easy to isolate when you first, like, bring the baby home and you feel a little out of it. Yeah. But this neighborhood just makes you feel so connected even if you're in the house. Like, I just look out the window and
Kasey:I'm like, there's Kasey.
Carrie:Yeah. Like, there's Kaila. You know? Like, you just you just see people and you feel like you're part of the community kind of even if you're cooped up.
Kasey:Yeah. No. It's been it's been awesome just because even you kinda are in that, like, newborn Mhmm. Bubble a little bit. I was just trying to go outside.
Kasey:So it was still nice to interact with people of like, oh my gosh, I I'm not leaving the house, but I'm leaving like, I'm in the neighborhood, I can see people and
Carrie:it was just nice to be able
Kasey:to meet Skyler and, like, people ask how I'm doing and send
Carrie:meals and like organically without having to, like, invite everybody over. Yeah. I just literally ran into you, like, a couple days ago on a walk.
Kasey:Like, can
Carrie:we walk together? Let's do it. Yeah.
Kasey:No. It's it's helps the recovery, the healing process of just community and, like, trying to get out, that's when my biggest thing in the postpartum of just community and trying to adventure out. Because I think you can feel really alone in this new phase of life and you're just navigating it. So having a good support system that's nearby is really, really awesome. For sure.
Carrie:Yeah. So, you mentioned that Skyler was breach. Mhmm. And I know that was like a big thing to process having a plan c section and everything. I would love to know, like, maybe share some of that just briefly, like, share that story.
Carrie:And then also, we are on the other side of it. Now, like, we did this first episode that did not air, we were talking all about, like, the preparation, like, how it was gonna be and what you were praying for and what you had to process. And obviously, like, praise God, everything seems to have gone smoothly. But, yeah, share a little bit of your birth story and what that was like and also maybe, recovery because I know so many moms, you know, go through c sections, and I I'm curious what that recovery looks like.
Kasey:Yeah. So completely it is crazy to sit here and talk about, like, all that anticipation of a c section of what it's like and now to be on the other side of it and just kinda, like, breathe through and be like, did it. And all of my worries and fears, like, the Lord completely just, like, met me there. Mhmm. And I think now, I don't know what I was worrying about and, like, what I was fearful of.
Kasey:Like, of course, those are valid, but it is really cool to see the other side of it and be like,
Carrie:oh, that's so amazing. I love it. And
Kasey:yeah. And it was you know, there's things about it that I wish were different, but it was so great and it was so beautiful and awesome. So yeah. So Skyler, my sweet little, stubborn girl was, unfortunately, I thought she was head down, like, pretty much all my last trimester. The doctors told me she was head down.
Kasey:They were really confident. Like, they said 99% sure she was head down. So crazy. And each each appointment, even at our thirty six week appointment, I had, like, actually three different doctors tell me she was head down. So I kind of was just, like, so excited to, like, prep for a vaginal delivery and, like, go through that whole process.
Kasey:I've been doing, like, trying to go into labor, like, doing all of the what's, like, the step process?
Carrie:Oh, I forgot what it's called. Where you, like, just walk the curb and Miles. Yes. Yes. The Miles.
Kasey:I was doing that. I mean, I was you know, dates, raspberry tea, like all those things. And and I was just and I'd had been strength training and doing so much walking. So I felt really, really prepped for, like, seeing what my body could handle. And then thirty six week appointment, head down, thirty seven week appointment, down, and then thirty eight week appointment, I went in and I was just like, hey, everyone's saying she's head down.
Kasey:Like, can you please just verify with an ultrasound? And she was like, yeah, no problem. Did a cervical check. She was like, yep. Just felt her head.
Kasey:Like, she's head down. I asked for an ultrasound, and then she did the ultrasound and she kinda, like, gasped. And I was like, oh my gosh. I'm so sorry, but she is in a breech position. Like, her head is in her head was in my ribs and her feet were in my ribs.
Kasey:So it's called a Frank's breech, is where they're like tacoed. Aw. So when they were doing the cervical check, they were hitting her butt, which just cracks me up.
Carrie:Like, it's her head. Yeah. Good. Yeah. Okay.
Carrie:So what made you did you just have a feeling? I'm curious, like, what made you ask? Did you have, like, a an did you just, like, she was the whole time? Or
Kasey:I think there was always, like, in the back of my mind I think I was so adamant, like, I kept asking every week and I don't know why
Carrie:Mhmm.
Kasey:Now looking back, like, I don't know why I kept asking. And someone did bring that up there, like, you felt it felt like you kept asking that question. We're so concerned. So, like, deep down did you know? And maybe, but I think, like, I wasn't dropping.
Kasey:I was very, like, carrying really, really high. Mhmm. And it was like, what whatever was in my ribs was super, super hard and it was uncomfortable. Like, I was not having, like, relief in my ribs. And I just felt like and her feet being over here, I was like, man, like, I don't know what position she's in Mhmm.
Kasey:To be head down. And so I think it was just like in the back of my mind that something didn't feel right.
Carrie:Mhmm.
Kasey:And even though they were saying she was head down, I still kind of like had this inkling of like, this just doesn't feel normal. And especially hitting thirty eight weeks and I wasn't dropping, like, did not feel any sort of, like, labor starting or anything like that. And that is kind of like a cue, like something could be wrong. Okay. At least that's what I've learned.
Carrie:Yeah. Well, it's just interesting to know because I imagine like moms that are pregnant with baby two, three, four, maybe they're more inclined to know because it's like, oh, usually it feels lower. Usually, I drop by now or whatever. But for a first time mom, like, you can really only go on your gut or, like, what you're, you know, what you're feeling or you really know. Yeah.
Carrie:Exactly. Yeah. So it's really cool that you asked. Thank goodness.
Kasey:Oh my gosh. I it's such a to ask that question, like, I I kind of was worried. She was like, oh, no. I'm just confident. Like, we don't need to do an ultrasound.
Kasey:But for her to be like, yeah, let's do one. Mhmm. And I'm just so thankful that, like, the Lord put it on my heart just to be like, let's verify a 100% because I would have gone into labor with her being breached and probably had to do an emergency c section. And instead, I was able to plan for one. Mhmm.
Kasey:So at her thirty week thirty eight week appointment, found out she was breached and then we were scheduling a c section a week later. And it was just like in that appointment, alright. She's breech. We can't do the manual. I think it's ECV to flip her.
Kasey:We have to schedule a c section and they scheduled it for me. So they were like, it's gonna be May 7, 7AM.
Carrie:So crazy. Like, oh,
Kasey:someone might have newborn. Okay. So and it was in that moment, I definitely now I feel like I'm in such in a better place, but I was so bummed. Like, I I was like really I don't know if upset's the right word, but I was just like disappointed. I was heartbroken.
Kasey:I think you just like have this desire of what your birth is gonna be like. And in two seconds, it flipped on me of like in two minutes, she told me she was breech and I was having a c section. Like it wasn't like a process thing. Like I wasn't able to sit there and like ask questions. And unfortunately, there wasn't there was not much amniotic fluid.
Kasey:So it was she was kind of like an we couldn't wait it out pretty much. And you are supposed to have like 39 after nine weeks is when they do breech c sections is what they told me. But we like, I tried flipping her. I tried all these things to do, but she was just so tight in there and I wasn't gaining weight. So I wasn't retaining fluid.
Kasey:And I think if I was doing that, I could have like she could have flipped better because
Carrie:she made her There was no room, no give.
Kasey:No room for sweet Skyler to move. Yeah. So we scheduled the c section and then that's kind of where we ended off last time. Yeah. And I was really nervous for it, but, man, like, the Lord totally showed up in it and it was again, do I wish my birth experience was different?
Kasey:Yeah. But at the same time, like, it was awesome. And she's here and healthy and that's really all I
Carrie:can care about. Absolutely. Okay. So walk us through it because I don't know the story. Like, how was it?
Carrie:I know, like, scheduled C section, obviously, so different than emergency in Mhmm. A lot of helpful ways. One being you're prepared. You know what's happening. Obviously, less less scary in a sense.
Carrie:Like, you said you and Kate had the day before you went or something. Right? Like, what was the that's just so different than when you're reading The Contractions and stuff. Like, there honestly are blessings in that. Like, that sounds really fun in a way.
Carrie:So, yeah, just, like, tell me about, like, what that day was like and, yeah, how how everything went.
Kasey:Yeah. So my husband and I both worked. So we decided, like, obviously, Thursday was our c section appointment, which is crazy. I'm like, we're having a daughter tomorrow. And so we decided to both take off Wednesday, the day of work.
Kasey:So we like because normally what before was I was just gonna go on maternity leave once the bay like, I'll just I was gonna text my boss like going into labor or whatever.
Carrie:But instead, I'm like, nope, I'm
Kasey:gonna start maternity leave early and I'm just gonna enjoy this day with my husband. So we went and got coffee, did a bible study together, went for a long walk, had lunch together, like just did a whole day of just us two. And it was just so awesome to like really soak that time in and realize like this is the last day of just us two. And then my family came in, Wednesday nights. We had dinner with them and then Cade's family came in Thursday.
Kasey:But it was kind of crazy of, like, we called everyone. Everyone was scheduled to come in because we knew we were having a baby.
Carrie:Yeah. That's so different. That's kinda nice.
Kasey:Yeah. Like,
Carrie:because we had many family members that were like, do we book a flight? Do we not book a flight? How like, are you dilated? Are you having contractions? Is it Braxton Hicks?
Carrie:Because we wanna be there. But like, that's that's kinda nice that they were all able to make it.
Kasey:Exactly. It's the most type a type a delivery you
Carrie:could possibly
Kasey:have, which I'm very type a. So in some ways, I'm like, okay, maybe that was like the Lord protecting me.
Carrie:He's like, you're gonna like this more than you Yeah.
Kasey:You know, I can wake up like I yeah. So we had like that full day and then went to bed and woke up at we had to get there like two hours early. So we woke up at like 4AM and I curled my hair. Yeah.
Carrie:You did. Oh my gosh. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah.
Carrie:I was just
Kasey:stupid. I didn't
Carrie:put any makeup on because I was
Kasey:like, I'm probably gonna be emotional and crying and like whatever. But I'm like, at least I can have my hair look good like Wait.
Carrie:You also have balm hair. So it's like, you're it's gonna look amazing no matter what.
Kasey:It's just like, you know what? I might not feel super great after a c section, but I at least can have my hair done. Least have
Carrie:my hair clean. Absolutely. My cousin had a c section, and I I think her baby was breech as well. So it was, like, not planned far ahead. But then Yeah.
Carrie:She didn't like because I guess you can just do an elective c section, right, where you just say I want one. It wasn't that. It was like you. So she was bummed at first. And she's like, you know what?
Carrie:I get to, like, get my nails done and have my hair fresh and, like, put on my cute makeup and, like, I get to be you know, there are definitely blessings in disguise to to the plan c section.
Kasey:For sure. I mean Mhmm. Like I said, type a. It was so nice. Like, we were able to plan and pack all the things that we wanted.
Kasey:You know, my mom came with us to the hospital. So really, we showed up two hours early and it's pretty quick. Like, I mean, I sat down in the hospital bed, they check your IVs, they monitor the baby, they do still check if she's breeched. So if she wasn't breeched, like somehow she flipped before, they would have either induced me to have like a normal, like a vaginal delivery or I could have canceled and just went back
Carrie:Okay. To Wow. That's good to know.
Kasey:Which there at that point, I would have been like, okay. We're here now. I'm like IV in the arm. Like, we're so prepped. At that point, was like, okay, we're just having the baby.
Kasey:Yeah. Is just me. Yeah. We're not doing this. So there was a part of me that I'm like, no, you are staying breech, girly.
Kasey:Like, we are not flipping.
Carrie:I've already processed. This is complete change. Don't do it again.
Kasey:Know. Mean, if it flipped and I had to reprocess, I'd be like, just a wreck again. But she was still breech that morning. And then, yeah, they monitor you and they kinda discuss like, the spinal tap, anesthesia, what it's gonna look like. But really, like, it hit 5AM, we got there checked in.
Kasey:And then about 06:45, we kinda went back to the room or the OR Room and, the nurses and doctors were just amazing. And I met my OB and we kinda just like talked through the process of what it was gonna look like. And I had made requests because you can it's actually really awesome. Like you can bring your phone in for photos and videos, which is are technically not videos, but we took videos,
Carrie:which I think I think everybody kinda does. Right?
Kasey:Yeah. They're like, oh,
Carrie:don't take videos. We took videos.
Kasey:And then you're able to ring a speaker if you want to. We ended up just playing like some worship music on my phone at like just one part, but it it was what our goal was, would have like worship music in the background. But it kinda was just like I don't know. It was a different vibe than what I was expecting. But there was one time where Cade I was like getting a little overwhelmed and Cade just put his phone next to me like playing worship music.
Kasey:So it totally just calmed me down. But yeah, you go in and you kind of like meet with the nurses and the anesthesiologists and you, like, sit on the bed and they do the spinal tap and the nurses are just amazing. They talk you through it and you kinda just insert the same thing as like an epidural. Mhmm. Just a little bit more intense, where it like goes up your spine and down.
Kasey:So it went up to like the middle of my back right below my basically, was numb here down. Okay. And then they kinda lay you down and it's weird. Like, he starts I mean, sure it's similar to an epidural, but like the tingleness, like from your toes starts moving up. And then I like, if if I wasn't I knew my legs were on the ground, but if it no one told me, I totally thought, like, I had my legs in the air.
Kasey:Like, that's what it felt like.
Carrie:My Oh, that's so crazy.
Kasey:It was just like I felt like I was, like, levitating. But anyway, so they put the sheet, like this blue sheet in front of you and then you kinda just like don't see anything and then the anesthesiologist is just with you the entire time. So I just was kinda talking through, like, talking with him. My husband came in and he just talked me through it, which is awesome. I asked him, I'm like, can you just keep me posted?
Kasey:I'm like, what's going on? And he was like, okay. Like, they just cut you open, you know. And I'm like, oh my gosh. Like, you don't feel anything.
Carrie:That's so crazy.
Kasey:Yeah. The weirdest thing is you are in like this t shape. So your arms are out Mhmm. Medicine's flowing through and then you just have the sheet in front of you. So you really can't see anything and you feel really in like a vulnerable position.
Kasey:Mhmm. But the wild thing is it's you're numb and you don't feel the pain but like, I knew people were like touching me and I knew they were tugging on me. Like, that's
Carrie:Feel like pressure almost or just like some level
Kasey:of touch? Yeah. Pressure, but, like, really, like, it'd be like if someone was, like, pulling my skin. Like, I kept feeling that. And it's not painful, but it's not comfortable either.
Carrie:It's like,
Kasey:someone's tugging on me, but like I don't know what they're tugging and I don't know what it is and I don't know where they're doing it. But like, I could like, my body was moving Wow. Which is super a weird feeling because you're like, don't feel it, but I know what's going on. So that was like the weird and a lot of people don't like that. They said that that can cause like it just can make you feel weird.
Kasey:Mhmm. And then then, yeah, the anesthesiologist was like, okay, they're pulling her out. There's her little booty. So her booty was coming out because they pull her still from like not gonna go up by her head and pull her down. They're just gonna pull her how she is.
Kasey:So her butt was the first thing that was coming out.
Carrie:That's so cute.
Kasey:So funny. Yeah. And then I asked for to see her during like we did delayed cord clamping for like just you can only do it for a minute during a c section just cause of, I'm open on the table. Mhmm. So we did delayed cord clamping and I asked if I could see them pull her out.
Kasey:So they, like, lowered the blue thing turns into, a clear. So I was able to, like,
Carrie:watch her get pulled out of me. Wait. What? Sorry. Yeah.
Carrie:You weren't we like, you watched the where the wound was and everything?
Kasey:Like, where
Carrie:you So
Kasey:you can't see like, I couldn't see that. But basically, like, if I were to lift my head, I could see, like, my body.
Carrie:That is amazing. Sorry. I would be so passable. I would be out of there. I don't like I Yeah.
Carrie:They literally when I was in labor, they they asked if they could do, like, where they cut you just a little bit. And I was like, no. You cannot. I I do not like knives. I do not like blood.
Carrie:So anyway Yeah. I'm just amazed that you're like, I'll take I'll I'll take a look. That's so beautiful though. I I don't
Kasey:need to
Carrie:be that courageous in life.
Kasey:No. I didn't you can't really see that much, but, like, I was able to see my husband took a video so you can see it in that, which is wild. You're not supposed to do that again. But I was just able to, like, lift up
Carrie:Mhmm.
Kasey:Like, lift up my head. So you saw, like,
Carrie:out of the bump, like, you saw her?
Kasey:Yeah. So, like, I just saw her kinda, like basically, she looked like she was coming out of my legs Yeah. Kind of, but they just, like, pulled her up and then brought her to the clear, curtain in front of me and they just were like, here's your daughter. And so Wow. It was cool.
Kasey:Then they just kinda had, a timer for a minute. So they were just, like, talking me through and she's crying and but she was like, the scariest thing is she was really like breeched, like her legs. I mean, pretty much she was in half is what she looked like. So She
Carrie:was like bent over
Kasey:kinda like scrunched. Her well, her legs were like basically, her feet were touching her head when they pulled her out.
Carrie:Oh, wow.
Kasey:Oh my gosh. Because she was talk like tacoed in that sense. So she definitely didn't look was like, oh my gosh. She looks so uncomfortable, but she was probably like that for twelve plus weeks in that taco shape. That's so crazy.
Kasey:Yes, then they they pulled her out and I was able to see that whole experience, which is cool. And then they did immediate skin to skin. So I asked for that and they just brought her around and put her on my chest. But unfortunately, like, because you can't, like, feel it yourself, the pressure on your chest can cause, like, a little bit they told me that it could cause, like, lightheadedness, feeling of nausea and stuff like that. So I had her on my chest for, like, maybe a minute.
Kasey:And then I said, I was like, I think I'm I think I'm losing it. So Cade took her. They like went and weighed and measured her. And then that's when the anesthesiologist kinda like is talking me through it, but I was getting like lightheaded. Nothing crazy, like but I just was not comfortable having, like, her on like, holding her Mhmm.
Kasey:Feeling that way. And so then I that's when Cade laid his phone down and I just was, trying to calm myself through some worship music of just it was a bummer because I didn't get to have that skin to skin right away. But they went and weighed her and, like, measured her and then Cade held her for the rest of the surgery. Okay. So yeah.
Kasey:Then you just lay there and I just kind of was, like, looking at him and Skyler. At that point, she wasn't named, but, and then pretty much it's like fifteen minutes. Once the baby's out, it's fifteen minutes to sew them up.
Carrie:Okay. Fifteen minutes. Okay. Did that feel like a forever fifteen minutes or like, oh, that went so fast?
Kasey:No. It felt so fast. Okay. Well, it was just crazy, you know, you sit there and you're kinda like talking through it. We don't even realize they're like cutting you open, but you can feel that pressure Mhmm.
Kasey:Probably like because it's twenty minutes. So it's twenty minutes to get the baby, fifteen minutes post is what we're Yeah. So it's only a forty like a thirty five, forty five minute, like process. I mean, we went in at seven and she was born we went into the OR Room at seven. She was born at 07:49 and we were back in our room at like 08:10.
Kasey:That's amazing. Yeah. It was it was so crazy. Like, in one full hour.
Carrie:I'm now. I'm sewed up. Like, I was open. Now I'm closed. Like, that's crazy.
Kasey:So quick, so fast. Yeah. And so the anesthesiologist, like, like, pro like, talked me through it again. He was like, okay. They're sewing you up.
Kasey:And then Kate had her the whole time, that's my husband. And then they moved the curtain and they just lifted me, put me on the bed. And it's a really weird feeling not like feeling anything because they're like, okay, we're gonna roll you over, but you're still talking and stuff like, can't feel your body whatsoever. And then that's when they did skin skin and I was feeling so much better. So I did skin to skin for like an hour post that.
Kasey:We breastfed right away and then it was just Kate and I in the OR Room for
Carrie:When does your feeling come back? Like at that point or like, is it a while before they
Kasey:It depends on your body, but six to, like, twelve hours, it depends Okay. Yeah, is what I pretty much started feeling it six hours afterwards. Mhmm. Maybe maybe around four hours, I could start kinda feeling my toes. Mhmm.
Kasey:But it wasn't until, like, the around dinner time I, like, actually got up and went to the bathroom and stuff.
Carrie:And how was the physical recovery those early days compared to, like, maybe what you were expecting?
Kasey:Yeah. The first day was you're kinda so much, like, up on medicine and, like, the high of the baby and you're uncomfortable, but you're, you know, you're wearing off the anesthesia anesthesia. So it just doesn't feel as hard right in that first day. Your worst days are two and three. I mean, I have had lots of surgeries and I was like, man, that was rough.
Kasey:Like, you're just your core is so sore and in pain and you can't, like, use your core. So it's a lot of, like, rolling over and then, like, people lifting you up because you don't wanna sit straight up. Mhmm. So the first they say the first, like, twenty four to seventy two hours are gonna be your hardest. Mhmm.
Kasey:And that was, like, Kate had to, like, help me sit on the bath or, like, go to the bathroom Mhmm. Shower, like, put on clothes. Like, I was not able to do any of that myself.
Carrie:Were you in the hospital before you came home? How many days?
Kasey:Like, two and a half days.
Carrie:Okay. Yeah.
Kasey:It wasn't bad. We could have stayed one more night. We didn't want to. I was ready to go home. Plus it was Mother's Day that Sunday, so I didn't wanna be in the hospital on Mother's Day.
Carrie:Yeah. I don't blame you.
Kasey:Where you could have stayed another night or we could have stayed if we wanted to another night. But we wanted to come home and, wake up on Mother's Day with her and everything like that. But, yeah, it's it's crazy. Like, every day does get better, like, really. It's just getting through the first two days, but it it is I don't know how it compares to a vaginal delivery, but you're just core is so sore and tight.
Kasey:And I think the hardest thing for me was I felt like I couldn't really take care
Carrie:of Skyler as well as I could have.
Kasey:Mhmm. Like burping her. Have to like kinda sit up to burp her and like I could never do that. So pretty much I breastfed her and then just handed her off. Yeah.
Kasey:Mhmm. I didn't burp her and change her diaper for the first six days. Mhmm. Like it just it was not possible for me even like leaning over to change her diaper. Like, I would have had to like stand straight up and Mhmm.
Kasey:Sitting down. Like, it's just a different it's a different process. I'm thankful. And you still bleed, so I still bled like normal. But I didn't have any, like, pain down there, which is wild.
Carrie:So crazy.
Kasey:Just different. Yeah. It's different.
Carrie:It's up here. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. I I think I told you about I had, like, a really bad tear.
Carrie:And so I couldn't really move the first Yeah. Probably like three to five days, like similar timeline of a lot of pain and a lot of stitches and stuff. And that was the hardest thing ever. Like, just handing him off and being like, I'm the mom. I just gave birth.
Carrie:I'm so in love with this child. I want to nurse him and care for him. And like Yeah. And then to continue to just hand off is like really hard. And, you know, the further you get away from it, like, you're only a month out.
Carrie:But, you know, you already know, okay, I'm the mom and it's okay. Like, that's so short. But that is, like, really challenging when when you do have because some people have great births and they're like, oh, yeah. Like, whatever. I'm on my feet, you know, like, whatever a a couple hours later, a day later.
Carrie:But when you don't have that like that, I I totally agree. That was, like, super challenging for me too. Just emotionally. And you have the emotions going on of, like, I don't even know, like, what to The hormonal drop is the most insane happy thing and sad in my life. Like, it's
Kasey:so much. And I love this child and I'm not
Carrie:good enough for them and, like, everything you're feeling on top of, like, not being able to, like, move. It's a lot.
Kasey:Yeah. And that's kind of like that was the hardest thing of just there was one moment and I think I was I was at home. So I think I was four days post delivery. I'm trying to remember what day it was. But my my parents were there, which is really nice.
Kasey:They decided to go for a walk and Cade was at home with me. And, he went away for a split second and I was nursing her and she spit up. She struggled with like reflux in the beginning because she was just like chugging like crazy and then, you know, spitting up and like, okay, you could just slow down. You won't spit up like this, whatever. But, I couldn't like, started choking and I couldn't get her up in time and I, like it hurt so bad because no one was with me.
Kasey:And it wasn't anyone's fault. It was just, like, no one was in that moment for two seconds not with me and I sat up super fast trying to help her. And I mean, it hurt so bad. And then Cade I, like, yelled to Cade. Cade came downstairs, grabbed her and started burping her and she just, like, was choking and crying.
Kasey:And in that moment, I mean, I was like, I'm the worst. I'm like, so I can't imagine. Like, I felt just so bad because then that, like, I should be able to sit up and help my child in that moment. And I like even if I when I tried, like, I hurt myself doing it. Mhmm.
Kasey:And I couldn't even do it to the full capacity of someone who could hold her comfortably and burp her so that she could, like, have that relief. And so that was the worst part of the recovery of just not feeling like I could take care of her the way I wanted to. Yeah. It's it's so temporary.
Carrie:It is. But I mean
Kasey:your You're just like This is the worst. Yeah.
Carrie:This is really hard. Yeah. And it's just kinda not what you like I don't know. When I thought about postpartum, like, I I never gave that a thought. Like Mhmm.
Carrie:My thought was, oh, like, it's gonna be so hard that they're gonna not sleep or it's gonna be so hard. Oh, baby breastfeeding's gonna be hard. But I just didn't even process that, like, a possibility of the struggle would be not feeling and I also think, like, I'll speak for myself, I don't know. But for me, it was also, like, control a little bit. I'm type a as well.
Carrie:And I was like, that's not like, I wanna don't put that on him. That's not oh, okay. Like, oh, we're gonna use his thing for the first time. I wanted to do that. Like, cause you're just kinda there.
Carrie:And I don't know. I think that was something that the Lord really met me in was the release of the control of, like, how I pictured my postpartum experience and strolling into the perfect nursery and changing it for the first time. And I'm like, I'm the one on the couch sitting on a donut ice thing, and I'm not even in there. You know? So it's like, it's a lot.
Carrie:But a month later, you're Yeah. You look amazing. Like, how are you physically feeling in terms of the c section recovery? Like, how's that now?
Kasey:So much better. I really do feel like you hit two weeks, like, when you're first cleared and that's when you're cleared to, like, carry 20 pounds now or something. And then you're cleared to drive at two weeks, which I didn't realize I can even do, but I didn't end up driving for, like, the longest time anyway. But it is so much better. I mean, truly, every single day I get better.
Kasey:I do have like I'm still numb about like this big of a patch on my stomach. Like, I can't feel my stomach. It's really weird. So crazy. And then your scar is like six inches long.
Kasey:And it looks way worse in the beginning because it's like covered in blood and it has glue on it and all this stuff and it looks gnarly. And then but now it's just like a really clean white line. And apparently, it will even fade to be like literally the size of possibly like less than an inch long. That's
Carrie:Okay. Crazy. I can't believe that. Crazy.
Kasey:And so the stitches were inside. That's the other crazy thing. Like, your stitches are inside and they dissolve in you. Woah.
Carrie:So you don't I don't have stitches, which is like That is amazing.
Kasey:Because I hate stitches. Those those
Carrie:freak me out.
Kasey:I didn't know. No way. So so reassuring when I found that out and it was just glue. And then, yeah, like twenty four hours post baby, was able to shower and like, that's when you can kinda like let the water run over it and then the glue just kinda takes like, eventually falls off. And I pretty much am like completely gone with the glue now.
Kasey:And so now it's just like one line. And then biggest thing now is just I have like some pain, which everyone says is normal. Like I'm usually it's wherever they end the stitches is what I've kind of been told again, is wherever they ended it is can be a little bit tighter of and so that can have, like, some shooting. So I have some, like, shooting pain on, like, my right side of just if I move certain way, I'll get this like shooting pain. But other than that, like, I feel so great.
Kasey:Mean, I would say that I I probably would encourage like if anyone's getting a c section, yes, rest. But if you're feeling good, like just try to get up and walk because I think that has helped one, men like, my mental side of it. But just I think getting up and moving my legs just helped me so much. Like, I feel so much better when I'm active. And if you can only walk right now, like, you might as well take advantage of it.
Carrie:Yeah. You were walking early. I was seeing you out the window. I was like, that girl, look at her go. You just got you know, you're, like, still recovering.
Carrie:I did that's amazing.
Kasey:Day or, like, I increased a block or maybe a little bit more than a block a day just to I just felt good. And I'm like, it was nice out. I'm like, I this feels I can heal so much better if I'm just doing those things. Yeah.
Carrie:Okay. I also wanna ask. So Kade's back at work. Right? So you're like, you know, a month into being a mom, full time mom by yourself a lot of days.
Carrie:Also, Kasey's a very fun follow on Instagram. I need to give you like a
Kasey:shout out. I'll tag
Carrie:her in the show notes. But you have so much like fun mom content now, which I just love. And you had fun pregnancy stuff too. But anyway, so I'm like, you you've like vlogged a few of your days so I've seen it. But Yeah.
Carrie:How like, what is that like? Because I had a different situation because Connor and I are like on and off with work. So we were kind of like both home together the first few months. So I did not have like the early day overwhelm for a few months. Mhmm.
Carrie:That's pretty early that you're like, I'm doing it by myself today, which I know is so many moms.
Kasey:Yeah.
Carrie:So what has that flow been like with, like, nursing and just being like, okay, it's just the two of us all day. How have you managed that? Yeah. How's it going?
Kasey:That's so awesome that you guys had the the, like, months, early months together.
Carrie:We were we were really grateful for that. Yeah. That's so cool.
Kasey:Just for also like for Connor to have that and like enjoy that with Archie. Like that's so sweet. But yeah. So at three weeks, thankfully, like three weeks, Cade got paternity, which I know is not normal for people. He ended up having like two weeks then took an extra week off.
Kasey:But really awesome to have like him at home with me for three weeks. But, yeah, the first day, I mean, I was full blown so stressed. I'm like so nervous to wake up
Carrie:Love to be honest. Yeah.
Kasey:I was just like, shoot. I like, what how do I go to the bathroom? Like, where do I because she definitely doesn't love it's so funny. You put her down, she cries. You pick her up and they immediately are done crying.
Kasey:Oh, yeah. I'm like, you were fine. Like, why are you doing this? And so that was kind of where she was at. And so I was really nervous.
Kasey:Like, I definitely went to the bathroom holding her a few times. Well, this is what
Carrie:we're doing because I
Kasey:can't have you screaming, crying. But honestly, she blessed me that day because she was probably like her best behaved Aw.
Carrie:Yeah. Good job, Skyler.
Kasey:I know. For the first day, obviously, we've had hard days, but at least to have like the first rhythm of just getting everything. But, really, it's just taking it with a lot of grace and knowing that she's okay to cry for a little bit. Like I tell myself, like, even though I don't want her crying and I want her perfect and all that stuff, if she needs like a few minutes or I need a few minutes just to like regroup and I can I can let her cry for a little bit? And it's hard to like comprehend that, but there's moments where I'm just like, I don't know what's wrong.
Kasey:I've fed you. You have a clean diaper. I've burped you, like, all these things. And I'm just gonna let you cry this out. I'm gonna hold you, but at least I'm I'm gonna be there with you.
Carrie:That's so good.
Kasey:And but I just think in those moments, I'm like, I I can't blame myself and I just have to give myself so much grace because we're figuring it out together. I don't like she's this is the first time I'm doing it. She's the like, this is the first time she's doing it. So I think like that's been my biggest thing of just navigating it and giving myself so much grace just to process and go day by day and literally hour by hour with her of, like, what she needs and how I can do it. And there's days we're super, super lazy and then there's days we're more active and, like, trying things, but it's really just dependent on her.
Kasey:Yeah. Oh, yeah. My husband makes a joke saying like, oh, I just thought, like, she'd be coming into our lives and and really it's you're coming into her life. Like, it is Skylar's world and we're just living in it at this point. But I kinda just let her dictate the day, like, especially in the beginning, I have nothing going on.
Kasey:So which is a blessing. Yeah. But I'm like, if she's crappy, we're gonna sit at home. We're gonna watch a movie or watch a show. Mhmm.
Kasey:If she's ready and we're sleeping, we're gonna go for a walk. Like, we're gonna try to go just based on what she needs. And I think, like, and it just starts like you the second you have this baby, you like automatically trigger motherhood. And I think like all the moms I've talked to, like, will sacrifice my time, my body, my worth, like all these things for her in this in the beginning. And of course, like, I know who I am because of like the what the Lord teaches us.
Kasey:But like in this few first weeks, you like go through a whirlwind of emotions and and stuff. I think
Carrie:Whole new identity. Whole new like whole new version of dying to self. It's like Yeah. The most sacrificial thing ever and Yeah. Plus the physical side of it at the same time.
Kasey:Yeah. And I think in that in that moment, I just was like, I'm gonna sacrifice everything I can for her for a little bit and like, obviously forever. But in the beginning too, like, I just am gonna do what she needs so that she feels loved and knows that, like, we're so happy that she's here and that we can, know, start this life together. And, I would say the hardest thing was breastfeeding, but we are at a much, much better place with breastfeeding now.
Carrie:Happy to hear that. You said Yeah. Like what did you say helped you? You had you have a lactation girl, but then also like Nipple shields. Yeah.
Carrie:We can say that on this podcast. Nipple
Kasey:shields. Yeah.
Carrie:A few of my friends said those were complete game changers. What? Because they had some pain as well. Was she, like, having trouble latching or it's just painful? Well so she was latching actually really good.
Carrie:And then I don't know
Kasey:if she just had, like, a few latches in a row that were not good, but, like, TMI, she basically, like, bit off half my nipple. Love it. Because of that, it was like not healing and causing so much so much pain
Carrie:every So time we were
Kasey:even though she was having a good latch, I just was still
Carrie:like So in pain and
Kasey:those are just a temporary fix until I can heal up. And then once we're healed, I'm gonna try to go back. But
Carrie:That's so great. So she does latch well. She eats well. You just need to heal. Yep.
Carrie:And that's so amazing. Think it
Kasey:So now Oh, yeah.
Carrie:You'll be great.
Kasey:If we didn't figure that out, like, I don't know what I would have done because I get why people like, why it's hard, why people quit. Like, it is I played soccer in college and I was like, oh my gosh, I'd rather sprain my ankle every single day than have to breastfeed right now. Yeah. Absolutely. This is so hard.
Kasey:But it is so cool now. I truly enjoy it now. And, yes, I'm using, like, a protector at this point, but I wanted to get to the point where I wasn't, like, anxious about feeding her. And now I can just be like, alright, girl. It's three hours.
Kasey:Let's go. Like, let's Mhmm. And I think it is so such a special thing to have with the ear with your kid and, it's such a cool way for the Lord to, like, create bonding and and stuff So like
Carrie:Yeah. That's great. We
Kasey:are doing good now that we figured that one out. Yeah. Yeah.
Carrie:I also wanna say like when I saw you the other day and we went for a walk, you're like, yeah, like I'm just, you know, like I'm not maybe I'm getting things done once Kate's home or I'm just like focusing on her. And when you were just saying, like, just serving her is your day right now, the newborn season is so brief. And I think it's so beautiful that you have that perspective because I struggled with that and I know a lot of my friends did. And when you struggle to embrace like, when struggle you to realize how short the season is, people can feel like their life's over. They're like, oh, no.
Carrie:Like, is this my new normal? I need to make sure the house stays clean. I need to make sure I don't lose my rhythms or,
Kasey:like Yeah.
Carrie:I need to make sure I still do laundry or whatever. And that is just so good. I just wanted to, like, affirm you in that and also, like, advice for other new moms. Like literally, if if all you do, like you just said, it's like on her tough days is just sit there and hold her and love her and feed her, then you are thriving in the newborn bubble because it really is a bubble and like it it goes so fast. So that's so good.
Carrie:I'm really proud proud of you that you're, like, taking that on so quickly learning that. Because I think a lot of us, like myself included, when I do it again, I'm like, what am I doing? Like, I'm gonna have so much more grace. Like, grace, like you said, it just has to be all over those first few weeks and months. Yeah.
Kasey:No. And I think I did that because, like, of other moms telling me, you know, like, soak it in. Like, eventually, they'll learn. Eventually, this will figure out. Eventually, you won't have this time.
Kasey:Mhmm. And so even though it's hard to do that because I I would say I'm probably more of like, again, type a active cleanliness. Like, I just I have a structure and a routine and so that like got flipped upside down when she was here. Like, I felt like the house was a mess and I couldn't get in rhythm and I was wearing like robes all day long because I had nothing else to wear. I'm like, I'm not putting on real clothes because I you know, whatever.
Kasey:So I literally lived in a robe for like two weeks. Yeah. But it was just like, it's what I needed. It's what she needed. And I think it's really hard to, like, let yourself do that.
Kasey:But this is only temporary. It's so temporary. It's so And I think, like, these moments are so special. And eventually, like, she will sleep on her own. She will.
Kasey:Will she, like, sleep better with me? Probably. But she will eventually. And she'll you know, we'll figure out all these things. Every kid, like, all of us are sleeping by ourselves now.
Kasey:So eventually, do it.
Carrie:By age 30, we're definitely Yes. We've learned.
Kasey:You know? So and I just think it's like, eventually, she'll get there. Mhmm. And and, of course, you can create bad habits. But at this point, I'm like, we will we will navigate that and if she needs me and I think there's so many, like, great perspectives of I see, like, on like, moms on social media saying, like, oh my gosh.
Kasey:I didn't even I didn't get to do anything today. And then the quote from the baby is like, my mom was so caring with me today. Oh, those get me. Yes. Those real
Carrie:Yes. That perspective shifts of like Think
Kasey:about what the baby wants.
Carrie:You know? Yes. And like, are their world. Mhmm. Especially those first few months and years.
Carrie:Like, we really are. And they're it's easy for them to just be a part of our world because there's so many things going on in, you know, marriage and jobs and life and finances, everything you have, like, in your brain. But they just have, us and they look to us as, like, their little world. It's so beautiful. Yeah.
Kasey:And it shows like this development is like does matter. Mhmm. Like they they can know if you're taking care of them. Like they will actually create like, okay, if I cry and my mom comes for me, like,
Carrie:they
Kasey:can feel wanted and cared for. Like it is I've I mean, I did so many like psych classes in college of these months are so important in their development of learning of like, does mom come and get me and like, does she care for me and learning of crying cues and like what that means and feeling supportive. And so I don't know. We're just we're gonna carry her when she needs to be carried, but we're still we're definitely trying to put her down in her bassinet and everything. But I'm I'm giving myself and her grace and Yes.
Carrie:All all in due time. Yeah. Truly.
Kasey:Mhmm.
Carrie:I wanna do a few fun postpartum would you rather because I liked what we did the last time. Yeah. Before we go. Okay. So this is just a little these are dumb, but they're fun.
Carrie:So postpartum, would you rather?
Kasey:Okay.
Carrie:I'll answer these two just for funsies because why not? Would you rather get eight hours of sleep but no naps or unlimited naps totaling eight hours throughout the day?
Kasey:Oh gosh. No naps. Oh my word. That would be so bad. Eight hours sounds so nice right now.
Carrie:I'm thinking the same thing.
Kasey:Probably the the what was the first?
Carrie:The first eight hours of sleep straight?
Kasey:Oh, no. The second one.
Carrie:You want the naps? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I would want eight hours straight.
Carrie:She's I can't function without that.
Kasey:No. That's great.
Carrie:I didn't function for a long time without that. Like,
Kasey:throughout the day if they would be active the entire
Carrie:time. No. That would be exhausting too. Yeah. Yeah.
Carrie:They both sound really rough. Yeah. Would you rather have a personal chef or a night nanny for the first six weeks?
Kasey:Oh my gosh. No. Chef.
Carrie:I was gonna say I'm going chef. Yeah. Because I don't wanna think about Yes. Night shift is hard. You've got your spouse, but, like, there's there's nothing worse than thinking about what you have to cook for three meals a day.
Carrie:They do the dishes. Yeah. Yeah. The chef does the dishes. Yeah.
Carrie:We do chef dishes And
Kasey:this good in, like, the snacks. Yes. If they can create, like, half snacks so I can just have, like, a protein ball throughout the day.
Carrie:A 100%. Those little protein oatmeal, like, balls that are supposed to be, like, lactation balls, but really there's, like, delicious sugar bombs.
Kasey:Yeah. Lived off those. Okay.
Carrie:Would you rather never have to do laundry again or never have to wash pump parts and bottles again? Don't know if you're Yeah.
Kasey:I just started pumping.
Carrie:Okay. So you get the struggle.
Kasey:Yeah. I mean, but laundry for sure. The amount of puke and poop on like the clothes Yes. I don't understand how many outfits we go through the day. Thankfully, it's it's getting less.
Kasey:But I Oh, it's a lot sort of buy outfits. I'm like, we don't have enough and I just did laundry.
Carrie:Yeah. Exactly. I I, like, I thought, like, six sleepers would be enough to start. But if he goes he went through, like, six sleepers a day and you're like, no. If I don't do this laundry today, he's naked tomorrow.
Carrie:Yeah.
Kasey:Yeah. I Or in three month clothes and she she would
Carrie:have done that.
Kasey:And I'm like, sorry, girl. Your arms look like two feet long because it's just
Carrie:doesn't fit I agree with you. I think, I'm trying to think go back to those early days. I think I would have said laundry. I didn't want to deal with laundry. I, like, couldn't mess with that.
Carrie:I kind of thought it was fun and soothing to do a little bit of bottle washing. But the laundry, I just didn't
Kasey:I haven't done bottles. So we aren't It's not bad. We're incorporating bottles probably next week, but just right now our pump parts. Okay. Yeah.
Carrie:Yeah. It's it's like a lot. It's not ideal. Would you rather have unlimited freezer meals or coffee deliveries?
Kasey:Again, I'm gonna go freezer meals.
Carrie:Okay. I am too. Yeah.
Kasey:That's funny. Yeah.
Carrie:I I actually really thought about this when I wrote this one and I was like, I don't know because I love coffee, but it's the meals thing. Like, just it's the mental space being like, okay. I know I'm just fed and I don't even wanna think about it. Yep. But coffee would be cool too.
Carrie:Okay. So would you rather instantly regain your pre baby fitness or your pre baby sleep schedule? Oh, fitness. Yeah. Me too.
Carrie:My core body back
Kasey:in two seconds? Are you kidding?
Carrie:That sounds great. I know. I was doing an ab workout today, and I was like, my core is still like I need to I'm having a pelvic floor Yeah. Specialist on a few weeks, and I'm psyched.
Kasey:Let me know how
Carrie:that goes. I will. I'm on-site. Because I'm like, why is my core still jello? Like, I feel I almost feel like not numb what you said, but just like, it's so weak.
Carrie:And, like, I do core exercise it. I do a lot of, like, deep deep core strengthening. I'm like, this thing's taking forever. Okay. Yeah.
Carrie:Would you rather have a baby who naps perfectly but wakes up at night or a night sleeper that won't nap?
Kasey:Again, I think I would want naps
Carrie:Mhmm. Even if you have to wake up. So I feel like I had this. I feel like Archie was a night sleeper that wouldn't like, he did nap, but he didn't nap that well. But his night sleep was, like, locked in.
Carrie:Oh, that's nice. And I appreciated that, but not napping throughout the day was also kinda tough. So I think I would
Kasey:Was he crabby, though? Because I think that's a difference. Like, was because if they're just
Carrie:awake and happy, it's awake and feeling
Kasey:like crabby. He was,
Carrie:like, crying through naps, and I'd have to go in, like, 55 times and be like, why won't you wanna sleep? But then if I'd wake him up, he's crabby. Yeah. I think I would still probably take the night sleep, but I pray that my next baby likes naps more. He likes him now,
Kasey:but
Carrie:he's napping right now. Praise the Lord. Okay. Would you rather this last one. Would you rather have help with housework or childcare?
Carrie:If someone comes to visit you to love you, would you rather them clean up your house or hold your baby?
Kasey:Okay. Originally, it'd be housework. But with my mother-in-law here, I love being like, here is Skyler.
Carrie:Here's your grandchild.
Kasey:Let me go clean my house. Yes. And I think it's just because I there's so many things like I wanna do it my way and so like laundry and stuff like, I appreciate, of course, people folding my clothes when like, I still have to put it away because I'm the only one that knows how to do it. Totally. So it's just like
Carrie:because you're type a.
Kasey:Hold and love my daughter while I go do I'm not wanting all the house chores, but some of them I'm like just Totally. So it's a mix. I don't know.
Carrie:Yeah. I feel the same way because like I remember like early days early days that like when you're still healing, obviously, like Yeah. Then for sure you're like, I'll just sit here with the baby and like Yeah. Take care of me. But once you're up and you're moving Mhmm.
Carrie:I was the same way where I'm like, I have this kid all the time. I love him to death, but you're here. So if you do wanna Yes. Do him I will like actually fold my laundry or I'll actually like, I don't know, you know, whatever, do the dishes or something.
Kasey:My mother-in-law arrived yesterday and I had Skylar in my arms and I was like, love you. Here you go. Like, love your daughter or granddaughter, please. And then I just was like, oh my gosh, I'm free for a moment.
Carrie:It is actually crazy.
Kasey:And it's it's not like a a like, I miss her right now. Like, it's not that.
Carrie:Of course.
Kasey:It's just that she doesn't like to be laid down. So I'm like, my arms never feel free or, like, I'm wearing her or something. I'm like, oh my gosh. My body's Oh, it's so
Carrie:by myself right walking to Carrie's house with nobody
Kasey:on me.
Carrie:Yes. So crazy. I was like,
Kasey:this is so weird, but it was really nice. So that's that's where I was.
Carrie:That's so good. Yeah. I agree. I my when my mom and my mother-in-law come to visit, I'm like, wow. They, like, must think that I'm a deadbeat mom because every time they're around, I'm like,
Kasey:just fell.
Carrie:Fell. Yeah. Like, wait. Know that I love him all the time. But when you're here, I think they're like, wow.
Carrie:She really trusts me with this kid. But, know, they it's their grandkids. They absolutely love it. You do. Like, we gotta embrace it while we have it.
Carrie:Yeah. So good. Kasey, this was so much fun. Thank you so much for being on. My last question quickly that I want to ask is what I mean, you're in the thick of this.
Carrie:This is actually a great time to ask. What is your advice for new moms? Someone that's coming home from the hospital today with the baby. What would be a
Kasey:piece of advice you'd have? Yeah. I would just say this time is temporary. Every single day is gonna get better. You're gonna figure it out.
Kasey:Even though, like, I genuinely when we went home, Kate and I, I was like, where are the instructions? Like, what are we supposed to do? How are we supposed to do it? And truly, like, you just figure it out. And you look around and everyone figures it out.
Kasey:I look at other people that I know and I'm like, okay, they did it. Like Mhmm. Everyone is doing it and having multiple kids. Like, if it was horrible, everyone wouldn't be doing this.
Carrie:That's true.
Kasey:And and so I think, like, just give yourself so much grace and know that you are going to figure it out. And this these moments are so incredibly special and I would just soak it in.
Carrie:Yeah. Yeah. So good. I love that you're saying that as you're in it. Like, that's so so beautiful.
Kasey:Yeah. Thanks for having me.
Carrie:Absolutely. Thanks for being on. I can't wait to, like, you know, have you on again when she's a little bit older or maybe you and Kate can come on sometime. It'd be super fun.
Kasey:Yeah. It'd be awesome. I can bring her and she'll not go ahead and be bobbing everywhere. She'll actually sit up a little bit.
Carrie:Yeah. Yeah.
Kasey:I love it.
Carrie:Well, thanks, Kasey.
Kasey:Yeah. Thank you.
Carrie:Well, I hope you enjoyed the conversation with Kasey as much as I loved having her on. You gotta love walking two doors down. You gotta love neighbor conversations. I'm so blessed to have her as my new mom friend. And if you do know someone, a sister or a friend, or you yourself are about to have a C section, considering having a C section, wrestling with having a C section, I think this is a great episode to send and to share with those friends.
Carrie:And also just for those postpartum moms, I think this is like a super relatable fun episode when you are in those fresh trenches. So I hope that this episode left you feeling far less alone if you are at home right now sitting with your sweet baby. And as always, subscribe to the show, leave a review. I love hearing from you. I read everything.
Carrie:I reply to everything that I can because I really love meeting you all. And I hope that these conversations bless you and leave you feeling like you have community in the new mom world because you do. We are all in this together. Thanks for listening.