The Unfunded Podcast

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Produced by Podfire.

Racing is officially back.

With Napier kicking off the Oceania season, Lockie and Lleyton break down the course, the stacked start lists, and what it means to see names like Hayden Wilde back on the line. But before that, they dive deep into race day rituals — from process goals and psychological cues to rice pudding, black socks, same jocks since age ten, Red Bulls in transition, and even Fortnite before Junior Worlds.

Lockie explains his headphones-in, don’t-talk-to-me race bubble, while Lleyton takes a more go-with-the-flow approach. The boys compare morning vs twilight racing, discuss how pros mentally prepare, and share some of the wildest superstitions sent in by listeners (and a couple of world-class triathletes). They wrap it up with a full Napier preview — course breakdown, wind factors, key contenders in both the men’s and women’s fields — plus a discussion on the increased World Series prize money in Abu Dhabi and what it means for the future of short course racing.

Season’s back. Let’s go.

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Where triathlon meets real talk. Hosted by two seasoned triathletes and one Sarah, this podcast takes a deep dive into the controversies, challenges, and triumphs of the triathlete world.

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Lockie
All righty. Well. Oh, no, I don't want to do that anymore. I don't want to do all right anyway.

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Lleyton
Yeah, well, I think it was cut last time from the episode we started down last time we cut this little part about Aaron taking out. All righty.

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Lockie
Yeah. You're be bitter about that I am bitter.

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Lleyton
Well, I'm not bitter because it's your. All righty. It is. He said that it was his way of starting their podcast.

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Lockie
And I went back actually on one of our first I wanted to say when I started doing it. Yeah. February 2025.

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Lleyton
Oh, there. Yeah.

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Lockie
I've been doing it since February.

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Lleyton
Trademark. We should trademark.

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Lockie
It. And then all of a sudden all interest on.

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Lleyton
Yo down, the giggle on you guys take that position. Fuel and hydration money that you get, you'll be hearing.

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Lockie
From our.

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Lleyton
Lawyers.

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Lockie
But.

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Lockie
Now, in all seriousness, welcome back, you absolute legends. We are back in the studio, back at it, and we are back racing this weekend. It's rise.

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Lleyton
Week. Not for me, but for you and.

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Lockie
Yes. Right. Yeah, unfortunately. How are you doing with that we injury.

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Lleyton
Oh yeah. It's actually but I'm back to writing sessions. Yeah I just think now is a little bit early. I'll start in about a month.

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Lockie
You nearly re-injured yourself this morning.

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Lleyton
I know came a bloody gut. So it's on the same leg as well.

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Lockie
Oh for anybody that it's obviously a bruise. Anybody that was running this morning, I guess you have to be in our squad to be running this morning. But lighten, lighten in his mom's shuffle. Didn't quite see the stump out of the ground this morning, and just.

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Lleyton
I just got a call back. Well, to be fair, we're running on, like, this little dog trail, and it's gravel. And then there's all these little tree roots that just pop out out of nowhere. And, okay, I'll admit, I do shuffle. Usually in the morning. You're a shuffle. Shuffle. I am, you know, prone to, a trip every now and again.

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Lleyton
Yeah. Scraping by.

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Lockie
You when the full.

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Lleyton
Superman dog kissing.

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Lockie
The pavement.

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Lleyton
My hands are okay, which is good. That's the main thing.

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Lockie
Is they're always there knowing ones.

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Lleyton
Yeah, I think I've crashed enough and fallen over enough that they've gotten, like, hard.

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Lockie
Yeah. They're not even though.

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Lleyton
They're very corporate hands. Yeah. Not not saying that I've got hard try to.

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Lockie
Get it very.

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Lleyton
Soft.

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Lockie
Definitely soft podcast is.

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Lockie
But.

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Lleyton
They have taken a few falls, but they're okay. Yeah. It's just my leg though, on the side that I like, injured myself. It's actually kind of soul. It's like, I don't know, not comfortable.

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Lockie
Let's not talk about it. That's all right. We're just manifesting some bad juju there.

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Lleyton
And you're like, nah, like good. That leg's fine. It's bloody robust now.

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Lockie
Yeah, right. Anyway, like we said, we're back racing back. We're starting to take things up. We spoke last week about the World Series and sort of what it's going to bring in 2026. There is some pretty big contenders. We'll get into it a bit later. But Napier, it's not a World Cup this year. No. So obviously the last two years I want to say two years.

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Lockie
It's been a World Cup out in API ad in New Zealand. And we've seen some pretty stacked start this.

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Lleyton
Yeah, it's been some great performances over the years, like we had the first year that kind of wrap this up for Napier. You were there. It was cam McCloskey win. Yeah.

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Lockie
I mean, you see the Falcon? I saw it from.

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Lleyton
Two laps behind.

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Lockie
I was yeah, no, not.

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Lleyton
Maybe like.

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Lockie
Maybe a K behind. I think I was running out of my like next part of the the lap while they were finishing I thought that's cool that I watch that. But I've got to still go run another five minutes. So I'll see you later. But yeah, that was obviously when we spoke about that for quite a while.

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Lleyton
Yeah.

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Lockie
Did we wanted to bring the beef bring because.

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Lleyton
That was kind of the start of it again. It was cool. Yeah, it was cool. I would say this year as well. Who's going to shoot him? Well, oh. Just like a bit of, you know, animation.

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Lockie
I'll shoot him if I,

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Lockie
I don't.

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Lockie
Know. And I'll start in that one. I'll start in that.

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Lleyton
No, that was it. And then last year you had Emma Jeffcoat on the podium and Brady Mercer. Yeah, that was a cracking run from him.

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Lockie
All these have really performed tonight. Yeah. If you're an Aussie you've really, really we need to step up this.

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Lleyton
Year a lot of Napier Aussies.

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Lockie
Love Napier which is great. And yeah like you said Brady Mercer kicked off an absolute killing year. Yeah. Like with that second place in Napier.

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Lleyton
Yeah. Kind of like broke him out onto the world scene I guess. And yeah. So Napier it's continental championships this year.

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Lockie
Yes. It's not a World Cup, which is I mean it's fine, like a race is still a race. So kind of a chance for us. You mainly only see, which is why we're not going to go too much into it. It's just really the first race of anything for the year in the short course. And so I think there was a race in Egypt a couple of weeks.

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Lleyton
Ago that actually had a really good start. That was a very good start for any. Yeah.

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Lockie
Benny Jo extra come and come in stood in that you had, one of the Frenchies come in second.

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Lleyton
And who was.

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Lockie
It was a German.

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Lleyton
Yes, it was a French.

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Lockie
And it was a German. I don't even really know who he is because he was. I think it was his first race. Yeah, that's. I would say that was his first county. He went and, wouldn't want it. So we had the Egyptian. Nice. A few weeks ago. We've obviously got Napier coming up, so it's ramping up.

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Lockie
We're starting to ramp up. We've got Lanzarote in first World Cup in two weeks. Three weeks, I want to say.

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Lleyton
Over to then for us, obviously it's, Davenport. So we have all of our Oceania, champs and then. Yeah, international rising from then. Yeah, it's pretty good. It's. Well, with this is why we're here.

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Lockie
This is exactly why we're here. We want to talk about it. With racing coming back. Yeah, right. I think something that's a bit different. You spoke about this before, and I didn't actually really think about it. A lot of juniors that are probably coming into elite racing and like we saw, there's some juniors on the start line.

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Lockie
There's somebody born in 2009. I'm going to be racing this weekend, which is crazy. That's pretty crazy. But

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Lleyton
It's nearly a decade.

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Lockie
Okay. Thanks for that.

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Lleyton
So yeah.

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Lockie
Thanks, mate. The toddler is it was a toddler.

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Lockie
But yeah, like we said, it's different racing, different racing dynamics. We'll talk about who's on the start list, soon, because I think it's going to sort of come into for like, who's on the start list is probably going to come into the World Series.

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Lleyton
Yeah, 100%. And both sides, male and female. It's a very good start for, for a very early season, you know, country champs.

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Lockie
Yeah. But it's different racing like, like you said before, we've got it's a day race. So yeah, we're not racing a lot of people who are doing the local races where sometimes a race at 6 a.m. first light, you're looking straight out into the sun, coming up out of the water. It's completely different. You know, we've got what what is a different sort of, day look like.

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Lockie
Are you doing nothing?

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Lleyton
Are you doing nothing? Are you pumping out three hours of training before he knows everyone's different?

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Lockie
It's definitely a heightened world kind of thing. I wouldn't be surprising. Hi. And we'll do it for our black ride before night.

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Lleyton
Yeah, yeah, that's kind of crazy. So when you're going through what a race day looks like, I guess as a professional, which completely changes from when you're a junior into racing on 23 to late, and then it's completely different to an age group here and kind of race day. So we're going to go through our race day.

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Lleyton
We do race in the mornings, but a lot of our races are midday to Mid-Ohio now.

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Lockie
And if you're ever if you're ever in Europe, it's some of the country cups over there. Crazy how late you're doing. I race at 730 at night.

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Lleyton
Yeah, we race 1 in 1 car. What time is that? It was around.

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Lockie
That was it, I think around the same. Yeah. It's a it's, What is it, is it a twilight?

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Lleyton
Twilight race?

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Lockie
Yeah, Twilight race, which is really cool, but it is.

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Lleyton
Cool because I was.

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Lockie
Sitting around for a long time. Yeah.

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Lleyton
You've been up since seven, and then you're racing at seven? Yeah. Like 12 hours before race.

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Lockie
One of the boys, obviously you'd sent out a heap of DMs to people and you put it up on the socials, like, what's your pre-race ritual? Yeah. And I thought, Oscar Wooten, I thought he was taking the piss because he was like, if it's not, if it's an afternoon race, I'll just play Fortnite. Like, ha, funny, funny.

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Lockie
And he's like, no, I literally do that. Yeah. He before world Chance Junior world champs last year, Oscar Wooten was playing Fortnite for god knows how long just to get his mind off, so. Right.

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Lleyton
Exactly right. Well, we'll go into a couple of our, listener, responses that we put out. Oh, you.

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Lockie
Got some shocking ones, man. Yeah, I did, and I just want to say this was Layton's topic.

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Lleyton
All right?

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Lockie
So of all the responses we got, that was light in the DMG.

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Lleyton
I have more of a laugh. Anyway, So lucky. What's your kind of race day look like if kids you're racing this weekend? Yeah. What's your race day look a lot from? Let's say you're racing your racing Napier 130. What are you doing in the morning. Are you playing Fortnite all morning or are you just kind of sat there?

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Lleyton
Oh yeah. Twiddling your thumbs, scrolling Instagram.

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Lockie
I'll be honest, I'm not much fun.

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Lleyton
No, you are in.

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Lockie
With and you've experienced like me on a race day. I'm not that much fun. You get some people that are really chirpy that want to talk. Let's go for a coffee. Let's all ride together. I don't want anything to do with anyone I like. Don't talk to me. Don't look at me. I just want to wake.

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Lleyton
Up and you just, look at you and you go, oh, stay away.

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Lockie
You all.

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Lockie
I just like, I don't know, I for me, it's just like, this is race day. Like. Yeah, fucking let me just be in my zone. Like I just want to be in my little energy bubble. I basically wake up with headphones in and I've got music going all the way down the race. It's like, and if you try to ask me a question, I'm going to pause my music.

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Lockie
I'm fucked off with you because you've just you've just interrupted me.

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Lleyton
Yeah, but no, I.

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Lockie
I always if it's an afternoon race, I'll always do like a black ride in the morning. So I'll probably go out for a half an hour spin just like have some brekkie, go out, spin the legs nice and easy and that sort of like my, I guess. Wake up, get the body moving, come back, have a stretch foam roll, have some more brekkie.

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Lockie
But then, yeah, honestly, I'll do anything just to keep my mind a bit distracted. Like, I'll. I'll do some work if I've got some work on the laptop or to sit on the sit on the laptop doing some of that. I might go for like another, not like a 30 minute, not like sort of mid-morning kind of thing.

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Lockie
But yeah, I don't do too much. Yeah. Distract myself a little bit, watch some TV, scroll some reels like have a little spin. But yeah, just don't talk to me. That's that's really.

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Lleyton
It. That's fair enough. Yeah. You are very much not to talk. So if anyone wants to talk to Lockie about the podcast on race day, don't. If you want to piss him off and get in his head, do that.

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Lockie
I will complain about you.

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Lockie
Oh my God.

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Lleyton
This mother. But I was lucky is very much a self contained based on race day. He doesn't. Yeah. Keep that in mind. No, you can talk to me.

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Lockie
After the race and you can talk to me the day before the race. But just. Yeah, I just don't. I'm just very much headphones in silence.

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Lleyton
Have you always been like that? Like since you were young?

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Lockie
No. I'd say I was a nervous wreck when I was young. Like I was a really nervous, like, felt sick. Felt nauseous, like, talked myself out so much, like, I don't know, I just was. Yeah, I probably would get a little bit nervous trying to talk to people to distract myself, but I found that that just doesn't work anymore.

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Lockie
And for me, I just want to be in my little zone, in my little bubble saying, well, I sort of obviously like when you put so much effort into getting to the start line 100% and like, I've worked as a psychologist now to try and mentally.

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Lleyton
Prepare.

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Lockie
Properly, it's just kind of like it's my thing that I've found like this is my time. I do this for me. Like, obviously we've got our support outside of triathlon, but at the end of the day, like I do the sport for me. So I want to get to the start line and I want to do what's best for me, go through my psychological cues and, you know, so my diaries and the what do you.

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Lleyton
Write the diary before?

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Lockie
Yeah, I do actually. I do it every day. I mean, I write in a journal every day, morning and night, like, I see the diary, but I.

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Lleyton
I get that now, but do you do, like, what was it kind of drummed into us when we were juniors? It was drummed in by, like, McDowell in my I think it was really good. Was like, your process goes.

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Lockie
Yeah, yeah, I do that kind of stuff. I do that, I do do that today. A lot of it's more, I guess, because some of those like physical processes kind of come naturally now because we've been doing it for so long. Like you, I know what my first ten strokes are going to look like. I sort of know what from 10 to 10 strokes of the first, Kane's going to look like.

00:12:05:23 - 00:12:24:04
Lockie
I know how to sort of feel when I get to the can. All that sort of stuff comes naturally now, but for me it's very much like staying present. How can I not let my mind wander to the bike when I'm on the start line for the swim? So I yeah, I'm here on the start line process goals.

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Lockie
What's my ten strokes look like? That's all I need to do when I get there. What is getting to the can look like? That's all I need to do. Like just very much staying in the moment, staying present. So and I've got my cues for that. And yeah, sometimes like there's even been days where I've like written in like the morning of a race, I've just written every single cue, like I've basically gone step by step.

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Lockie
I remember Devonport last year. I wrote down every single cue that I kind of had, like in order. So I was like, I was on the start line. I'm thinking this. I've taken the first ten strokes. I'm thinking this like first can I'm thinking this and basically like played out step by step exactly how I wanted it to.

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Lleyton
What did you end up in Devonport?

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Lockie
Second, I was second, Aussie third overall. Okay. So obviously there were some things that I didn't like, anticipate, like I got a real bad stage on the second lap. Obviously I didn't write second lap. I got to see it.

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Lockie
So like.

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Lockie
Obviously like there's some things to kind of describe. But then like in it I wrote like when it gets hard. And I anticipated the third lap to be really hard. It's always the hardest lap I wrote down. Like, this is when I'm going to like, think about, sort of like the training sessions that I felt like this and I've pushed through and felt really good after.

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Lockie
So you think about to the training sessions that you finished and how good that felt. Yeah, I had to do that, but I had to do that from a different circumstance.

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Lleyton
For, yeah, I've got to stay.

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Lockie
Here, just get the finish on.

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Lleyton
That's funny because the room over so you there, you process goes. Yeah. And lows. Who came second? Who I was in the room with. Yeah. She was drawing flowers.

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Lockie
Yeah. I mean, we're so drawn to different things. Two different things, which is hilarious.

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Lleyton
Like the, the polar opposites of how people's race days go. Yeah. That's.

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Lockie
A different I think that's a distraction in itself, actually.

00:14:02:18 - 00:14:06:14
Lleyton
Really? What? Yeah. So a distraction is the biggest thing. Yeah. Maybe.

00:14:06:14 - 00:14:08:23
Lockie
Yeah. What do you do?

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Lleyton
Yeah. I'll wake up that day and then I'll usually get out. Yeah. Good start. I usually get out for, like, a ride. Yeah. I think most people gain the move. Yeah. I gain movement in, either ride or run, and then I just make sure I like, eat what I'm meant to eat whenever. And then, pretty much just organize all my kit, and I get down there early.

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Lleyton
I don't talk like I'm not, like, super, you know?

00:14:37:12 - 00:14:37:21
Lockie
Yeah.

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Lleyton
To myself. Yeah. Yeah. Like, I don't have my headphones in all day. Like, I walk around and I'll chat to people about. I'm not going to. I'm not chatting like I am now to people, you know. And then, yeah, I usually like I kind of lost it a bit when I kind of got a bit older, but those process goals kind of lost that weight.

00:14:57:16 - 00:15:05:29
Lleyton
But then trying to bring that back in. Yeah, I think it just focuses you in a bit more. And then, yeah, just try not to think about to.

00:15:05:29 - 00:15:07:22
Lockie
Feel like you're very much a go with the flow.

00:15:07:23 - 00:15:14:28
Lleyton
Yeah, I'm just the flower guy. Oh, yeah. What's. You know what's going on now? Oh, it's about out, you know. Yeah.

00:15:15:03 - 00:15:16:18
Lockie
I probably should start. Yeah.

00:15:16:18 - 00:15:23:02
Lleyton
Then I'll have my timeline. Yeah. And, we asked a few people what they did, and, Sam.

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Lockie
It's a bit hectic. Timelines? Yeah, I'm not that strict with it.

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Lleyton
No. He said he wrote down every single, like, timeline. Yeah, not minute to minute, but like a breakdown of his whole race day.

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Lockie
Well, I'd say Ollie Turner. He did. He does something quite similar where it's like literally minute by minute. And he has a screenshot of it as his wallpaper on his phone. So he knows, bang, he got to be here.

00:15:43:01 - 00:15:50:23
Lleyton
He, he said that would be a bit too intense. Personally I prefer morning race to. Oh really? Yeah, I'm much more of a morning race.

00:15:50:23 - 00:15:52:21
Lockie
What's going on? What time is your preferred time?

00:15:52:26 - 00:16:12:12
Lleyton
I think like 8:00 am. 8 a.m. too early. No. Say I like an 8 a.m. start. You can get off at six and then have your pre-race brekkie get out for your warm up rack transition. You know, like finish warm up. It's race one too early. Say I love it.

00:16:12:12 - 00:16:14:14
Lockie
I want to sit with the excitement for a bit.

00:16:14:16 - 00:16:20:12
Lleyton
Yeah. See, I don't know. I don't know how well I go. Just, like sitting there, like you want to get ready and go.

00:16:20:13 - 00:16:23:18
Lockie
And the good thing about that is the bees start earlier. Like they asked.

00:16:23:18 - 00:16:24:12
Lockie
If body starts.

00:16:24:12 - 00:16:27:02
Lleyton
Exactly right but starts at ten, doesn't it?

00:16:27:05 - 00:16:27:18
Lockie
Yeah.

00:16:27:24 - 00:16:43:23
Lockie
I just feel like, I think I think for me, I feel like there's always going to be. And I love a crowd. Like, I love racing in front of a crowd. I don't know if Show Pony kind of thing, but like, I just want this sport to be. And I feel like lighter races bring that because people are out.

00:16:43:25 - 00:16:56:12
Lockie
True. Sort of at that time. So I love like, four, 5 p.m. like, I mean, you don't really get a lot of them in Australia, but you get a lot of them in Europe. But like that 4 to 5 p.m. like, I think people are out and about. Yeah.

00:16:56:14 - 00:17:00:19
Lleyton
That's true. I do agree. If there's a crowd, it adds to the excitement, doesn't it?

00:17:00:19 - 00:17:02:03
Lockie
When there's people inside line.

00:17:02:03 - 00:17:07:16
Lleyton
I feel as if you're less nervous when there's a bigger crowd. Yeah. And you perform better because it's focused on.

00:17:07:20 - 00:17:11:24
Lockie
Yeah. Probably the wrong thing to not focus on, but it's like it's just exciting.

00:17:11:28 - 00:17:15:01
Lleyton
I feel as if it's cool. Like you're the spectacle that's there.

00:17:15:03 - 00:17:18:05
Lockie
That's like gladiators in the, Gladiators in the arena.

00:17:18:05 - 00:17:19:14
Lleyton
In the Colosseum. Yeah, yeah.

00:17:19:21 - 00:17:28:11
Lockie
It's cool. It's cool concept. And it's like that, that pressure adds. And I mean, it's a corny saying. People use it all the time. The pressure. Pressure makes diamonds.

00:17:28:11 - 00:17:35:14
Lleyton
Oh, yeah, that's true. That is true. Did you have any, weird superstitions or when you were growing up?

00:17:35:16 - 00:17:46:22
Lockie
We had one in track track days like cross-country days. And this sort of stemmed from, anybody that went to manual college and sort of ran and our track crew, they would always know we wore black socks.

00:17:46:24 - 00:17:47:07
Lleyton
Okay.

00:17:47:14 - 00:17:48:16
Lockie
Black socks.

00:17:48:18 - 00:17:50:15
Lleyton
That doesn't really stick in triathlon.

00:17:50:17 - 00:18:08:05
Lockie
No you can't no, no, you can't wear socks. But that was always something. Black socks. I don't know why it was like I also I remember when I was really young, I didn't like I don't know why, but I never had any like black Nike socks or anything like that. Yeah. So I used to have to steal my dad's like business socks and they're always too big.

00:18:08:05 - 00:18:09:02
Lockie
So you have to put.

00:18:09:05 - 00:18:09:18
Lleyton
Like, you.

00:18:09:22 - 00:18:21:10
Lockie
Know, I put rubber bands around, so I put rubber bands and like, folded them over the rubber bands. I was running in black business socks. It was like, yeah, this is the wrong thing to be doing. But when you're like 13 for.

00:18:21:12 - 00:18:22:14
Lleyton
Anything and.

00:18:22:15 - 00:18:23:17
Lockie
It goes to.

00:18:23:18 - 00:18:24:12
Lleyton
Go faster.

00:18:24:13 - 00:18:32:21
Lockie
But no, other than that, like I, I never really had like same undies, same this time that it was just kind of just yeah, get in and do it.

00:18:32:22 - 00:18:44:00
Lleyton
Yeah. I had a little phase where when I was probably like 18, when I started to grow like a little mo, I used to be like, oh, like the mo was like, good luck because I race.

00:18:44:00 - 00:18:48:29
Lockie
Really still do you still got that superstition? I'm still good now.

00:18:49:01 - 00:19:05:19
Lleyton
And then what was another one that I had? I used to like, kind of like wake up and then because I never like the taste of toothpaste on race day. Yeah. So brushing my teeth without toothpaste. That's just weird, isn't it?

00:19:05:21 - 00:19:11:25
Lockie
Yeah. I mean, I thought the whole point of it is to. I mean, most people like the taste of toothpaste.

00:19:11:25 - 00:19:19:16
Lleyton
No, no, no brown rice. I wouldn't like it. I was like, nah, I don't like I do now, I like, I'll just watch the tape. What do you do?

00:19:19:16 - 00:19:21:13
Lockie
It affects the taste of water. So maybe that's.

00:19:21:13 - 00:19:25:25
Lleyton
Why I didn't like it. I thought that dried out my mouth. Like, made me real thirsty.

00:19:25:25 - 00:19:26:09
Lockie
Yeah.

00:19:26:14 - 00:19:42:21
Lockie
I mean, I guess it's not like, even. Even now we probably superstition. It's. It's actually not even a superstition. Now that I think about it, it's more just like a process, but ensuring I've got the right amount of carbs in a bottle, I've got the right amount of. But I guess that's not really superstition.

00:19:42:21 - 00:19:49:15
Lleyton
That's just like, yeah, that's preparation. Yeah. When do you do that? Do you do that the night before? I do that all the day off the night before.

00:19:49:15 - 00:19:52:21
Lockie
That's going to be a night for job. Can you sit it in the fridge.

00:19:52:23 - 00:19:54:23
Lleyton
True. Yeah. Yeah that's fair.

00:19:54:23 - 00:20:04:14
Lockie
I, I even find it funny how some people have superstitions like, which bottle goes in which bottle cage? Like, the smaller bottle has to go in the front one. The band.

00:20:04:15 - 00:20:04:24
Lleyton
The big.

00:20:04:24 - 00:20:09:11
Lockie
One. The big one. Can't like on the front. It's like that's. That's a bit much for me.

00:20:09:11 - 00:20:16:01
Lleyton
Yeah. I used to, have, like, my car makes on the back, you know how you have. Yeah. Down tube.

00:20:16:01 - 00:20:17:00
Lockie
Down tube, all that.

00:20:17:00 - 00:20:33:17
Lleyton
You know, the RI kind of like seatpost. Yeah. So I used to have my car mix on the seatpost and then my water on the downtube. Oh yeah. But then I was like, that's that's kind of stupid. Yeah, because I'm going to reach I should be reaching for my car. But yeah.

00:20:33:19 - 00:20:43:13
Lockie
I, it was always it was always funny growing up when like, you know, somebody might have like watched a YouTube video and they're like, no, you can't have your bottle full. It has to be awful.

00:20:43:13 - 00:20:45:09
Lockie
And people pour. Yeah, yeah.

00:20:45:11 - 00:20:57:07
Lockie
I remember we're like 14. Like that's going to make the world of difference at like I've only got, you know, 350 mils instead of 750 mils because some YouTube video said it's more aerodynamic or something.

00:20:57:09 - 00:21:11:26
Lleyton
And then it's, the classic one when you're young is like getting that extra percent in transition is like putting the talcum powder on of talcum powder. Yeah. And then putting water over it. So you know that that's like your spot. Yeah. I mean, that's a funny one.

00:21:11:26 - 00:21:31:15
Lockie
I mean, maybe, maybe one of my last ones. I always like to have my running shoes on the side that we're running out of transition. So I hate to say we're running in and I'm facing sort of this way. And I'm from I'm facing my rock and I have to run left. I want why I want my shoes.

00:21:31:17 - 00:21:32:10
Lleyton
On the left.

00:21:32:12 - 00:21:41:02
Lockie
Yeah, my running shoes on the left. So that I can rock my black step left, put my shoes on, run left. I don't want to have to step around my block to then get out.

00:21:41:02 - 00:21:44:26
Lleyton
Yeah, but what? What side did dismount your bike on?

00:21:44:29 - 00:21:50:03
Lockie
I can change sides. So I would dismount on my left. Yeah, I think I can't remember now, say.

00:21:50:03 - 00:21:52:15
Lleyton
I dismount on my left and put my shoes on my left.

00:21:52:21 - 00:22:01:11
Lockie
Nah, see, that doesn't bother me because I can just push the block forward and change sides. Okay, I can run with it on. But yeah. So like, if I have to, I dismount whatever side I need to. And if I have to change, change.

00:22:01:11 - 00:22:12:16
Lleyton
Yeah. Fair. But that's probably oh there you are. That's kind of our differences of on race day. If I'm just kind of like the big difference between the morning and a race is just waiting around.

00:22:12:16 - 00:22:19:17
Lockie
Hang on. You've missed a very big superstition that somebody. And I'm not going to let you get away with this. What you did to someone yesterday, you know.

00:22:19:18 - 00:22:21:01
Lleyton
You were getting into them.

00:22:21:01 - 00:22:25:07
Lockie
I was about to say you've, you've been a bit nifty with the DMs lately.

00:22:25:09 - 00:22:27:18
Lockie
You've been a big damn. Yeah, well, I.

00:22:27:19 - 00:22:31:05
Lleyton
Just am to, like, ten people.

00:22:31:07 - 00:22:32:29
Lockie
Yeah, just the ten best triathletes in the world.

00:22:33:00 - 00:22:37:15
Lleyton
Yeah, that's a real. That's. See, that's what people want to hear. Okay. I'd love getting into it.

00:22:37:15 - 00:22:43:16
Lockie
I'd love to know who you've taken here. There's also a lot of them did not respond to, you know.

00:22:43:18 - 00:22:46:05
Lleyton
No, I didn't fuck you.

00:22:46:07 - 00:22:50:05
Lockie
I didn't respond.

00:22:50:07 - 00:22:53:26
Lleyton
You can get screwed up. Never. I'm never sending you another day.

00:22:53:26 - 00:22:59:09
Lockie
And I think only one of them. I think only one of them actually did respond. The oh, no, two of them. Sorry. Two of them did.

00:22:59:16 - 00:23:00:05
Lleyton
I responded.

00:23:00:06 - 00:23:02:04
Lockie
Okay. Dick is also like, I guess, our mate.

00:23:02:04 - 00:23:03:28
Lleyton
Yes.

00:23:04:00 - 00:23:04:19
Lockie
It was also.

00:23:04:19 - 00:23:08:18
Lockie
Like a very formal message to say Dickinson. And then he was like, hey boys, by the way, I'm also going to be.

00:23:08:18 - 00:23:09:18
Lockie
On its way because I.

00:23:09:18 - 00:23:11:21
Lleyton
Wanted to do it like the, news and prediction.

00:23:11:21 - 00:23:12:18
Lockie
Yeah, I know, but.

00:23:12:18 - 00:23:13:20
Lleyton
They didn't get the response.

00:23:13:20 - 00:23:17:06
Lockie
You didn't get the responses like the news, the predictions. Oh my, that's you.

00:23:17:06 - 00:23:27:06
Lleyton
I here's a couple of superstitions that, you guys sent in. So we've got the classic now married at the time of the race, we ate rice pudding. That's very triathlete.

00:23:27:06 - 00:23:31:16
Lockie
That is very triathlete. I've never gotten around that rice pudding. No, I can't do it.

00:23:31:17 - 00:23:35:06
Lleyton
I can't. You, all eat like chicken and rice. Let me down.

00:23:35:07 - 00:23:35:24
Lockie
No.

00:23:35:27 - 00:23:37:06
Lleyton
No, no rice pudding.

00:23:37:06 - 00:23:37:24
Lockie
I don't know why.

00:23:37:24 - 00:23:40:03
Lleyton
That's. I think it's creamy. A tiny gaps.

00:23:40:05 - 00:23:41:07
Lockie
Very trough on behavior.

00:23:41:08 - 00:23:53:05
Lleyton
Anyway, if it works, it works for you. Yeah. We had a rogue. Damn. The last person in the squad got glad wrapped to transition and needed to ask for help to get home.

00:23:53:07 - 00:23:55:08
Lockie
I don't really understand how that happened.

00:23:55:10 - 00:24:03:16
Lleyton
I don't know, so it must have been like if you're last in the squad, you got drafted to transition. That's like some kind of hazing squad hazing.

00:24:03:16 - 00:24:13:06
Lockie
That's definitely that. This just screams like fully trip behavior. Yeah, that's that is serious 40 trip behavior. Like, imagine if we did that on a national campus night.

00:24:13:07 - 00:24:15:01
Lleyton
Oh, you'd be raped. When you do.

00:24:15:01 - 00:24:17:26
Lockie
You definitely get drunk. I mean, I'm I'm all for it sounds really funny.

00:24:17:26 - 00:24:20:29
Lleyton
That's actually funny. But we should inform into the academy.

00:24:20:29 - 00:24:23:17
Lockie
Whoever's lost in the transition.

00:24:23:20 - 00:24:24:26
Lockie
To a tricky.

00:24:24:28 - 00:24:28:09
Lockie
That's severe. Hectic. I would find it funny until you know that.

00:24:28:09 - 00:24:29:12
Lleyton
Until you last.

00:24:29:18 - 00:24:35:02
Lockie
We know I'd find it funny. It's like even if you glide, right? For me, it's funny. Until you guys are gone and I can't see you anymore. And I'm like.

00:24:35:04 - 00:24:35:24
Lleyton
Shit.

00:24:35:26 - 00:24:36:25
Lockie
All right, come back now.

00:24:36:25 - 00:24:44:04
Lleyton
Yeah, yeah, the joke's up. Yeah. Someone said warm up in thongs. That has to be a joke. Yeah, it has to be with a PC, Dave.

00:24:44:04 - 00:24:45:25
Lockie
100% taking the piss out of you there.

00:24:45:25 - 00:24:47:03
Lleyton
Surely not.

00:24:47:05 - 00:24:48:20
Lockie
Some. Is this next one?

00:24:48:22 - 00:25:00:16
Lleyton
During a Red bull? I've seen people do. I have seen people on many events in Port Macquarie having a fag over the side of the transition and smacking a Red bull.

00:25:00:17 - 00:25:03:27
Lockie
If you needed a description of Port Macquarie, you just go on right there.

00:25:04:05 - 00:25:06:18
Lleyton
They're racing Iron Man. These are elite athletes.

00:25:06:21 - 00:25:16:17
Lockie
Lucky is we had this conversation last week. We actually had this conversation last week that athletes okay. And I think we just I think we struggled to even call them.

00:25:16:17 - 00:25:20:25
Lleyton
Athletes to be able to put away a diary before your Iron man. It's huge.

00:25:20:25 - 00:25:25:10
Lockie
Honestly, just doing an immense hard enough, but making your lungs restrict even more.

00:25:25:11 - 00:25:26:10
Lleyton
Automate.

00:25:26:12 - 00:25:33:27
Lockie
I don't know if it's, I don't know if it is. The science behind it doesn't make sense there, but that's honestly very impressive.

00:25:33:27 - 00:25:39:12
Lleyton
If you're smack in diary in a Red bull. I've seen it. I've seen it in the flesh.

00:25:39:14 - 00:25:42:07
Lockie
If it works, it works good on. If not, something I'm going to be doing.

00:25:42:09 - 00:25:51:21
Lleyton
Oscar said a bit of fortnight before I say, obviously we get that. That's to calm the nerves. Yeah. I don't know whether you're taking an Xbox. I will say yes or whatever, but is.

00:25:51:21 - 00:25:55:03
Lockie
That calming your nerves, though? Because I've played, I've played fortnight a bit.

00:25:55:05 - 00:25:56:03
Lleyton
I get riled, I'm.

00:25:56:03 - 00:25:57:04
Lockie
So riled up.

00:25:57:04 - 00:25:58:03
Lockie
I'm not.

00:25:58:06 - 00:26:06:10
Lockie
I'm screaming at the TV if someone's just pumped me to the head like, oh, I oh, since. But like, I am not, I'm not calm.

00:26:06:12 - 00:26:07:17
Lleyton
No, no it's.

00:26:07:17 - 00:26:14:03
Lockie
It's getting high right up early. Yeah. Oh I mean if like we said he had a killer race it. Well it's he got eight junior world champions last year.

00:26:14:03 - 00:26:15:01
Lleyton
Who works at work.

00:26:15:01 - 00:26:15:29
Lockie
Clearly works for him.

00:26:15:29 - 00:26:27:11
Lleyton
And then he's one that I thought about. Mikey Day. Yeah. McDowell on this is an iconic one in Australia. Yeah. He wears his race day shorts.

00:26:27:11 - 00:26:30:12
Lockie
And they are the worst looking shorts you've ever seen.

00:26:30:15 - 00:26:31:24
Lleyton
They're like a.

00:26:31:27 - 00:26:33:10
Lockie
Billabong checkered print.

00:26:33:11 - 00:26:35:22
Lleyton
Red button. Is it? Toss in print.

00:26:35:22 - 00:26:37:13
Lockie
Yeah, I wouldn't even know. They're like.

00:26:37:13 - 00:26:39:04
Lleyton
Creamy bluey.

00:26:39:04 - 00:26:43:25
Lockie
What I can picture it now. Yeah. No. And I haven't seen him in years.

00:26:43:28 - 00:26:44:04
Lockie
And I.

00:26:44:04 - 00:26:44:18
Lockie
Can still.

00:26:44:18 - 00:26:50:08
Lleyton
Picture iconic yeah I can. He's worn them for at least I don't know. Since race day began I.

00:26:50:08 - 00:26:56:15
Lockie
Had a friend's dad who used to wear the same like bright green shirt. So then his son always knew where he was.

00:26:56:15 - 00:26:59:14
Lleyton
Here's another one. Do you remember Lima, coach?

00:26:59:16 - 00:27:00:20
Lockie
I don't want to go down.

00:27:00:22 - 00:27:04:08
Lockie
No, let's not go that way. The orange. Yeah.

00:27:04:10 - 00:27:05:22
Lleyton
Yeah.

00:27:05:24 - 00:27:09:28
Lockie
You could hear I from five K's away as well. That's another good one. Yeah.

00:27:10:00 - 00:27:10:08
Lleyton
Go ahead.

00:27:10:15 - 00:27:12:21
Lockie
Handsome.

00:27:12:24 - 00:27:15:20
Lockie
Think everybody know that's, that's famous from the 90s.

00:27:15:20 - 00:27:19:11
Lleyton
Yeah. Let's try track. That's a classic. You've.

00:27:19:14 - 00:27:21:26
Lockie
Oh, no. Sorry. You're going to the pro responses now. Okay.

00:27:22:03 - 00:27:36:06
Lleyton
So we're we've got our listeners in Oh another one actually. Here we go. One of the boys in the squad. Okay. Boom. Nameless. He wears the same pair of jocks since he was about ten every race day.

00:27:36:06 - 00:27:43:20
Lockie
I'm not giving him blameless, nameless. I was Jack Woodbury. Jack Woodbury wears the same pair jocks in every single race.

00:27:43:23 - 00:27:46:23
Lleyton
I've got, like, massive houses.

00:27:46:25 - 00:27:50:19
Lockie
And it does not surprise me one bit. That little Tasmanian.

00:27:50:25 - 00:27:51:19
Lockie
Just.

00:27:51:21 - 00:27:54:08
Lockie
Running around with his pecker, hanging out like.

00:27:54:10 - 00:27:58:22
Lockie
The holes in his jocks. Right. I was surprising.

00:27:58:24 - 00:27:59:01
Lockie
One.

00:27:59:03 - 00:28:04:22
Lleyton
When he told me that the other day. I was like, now he's the most Tasmanian together.

00:28:04:24 - 00:28:06:26
Lockie
Tell me, you from Taz. You at that time.

00:28:06:28 - 00:28:08:09
Lockie
But he's probably he's only.

00:28:08:09 - 00:28:12:09
Lleyton
17 or whatever he is. Yeah, but he's wearing the same ten. I know.

00:28:12:09 - 00:28:12:19
Lockie
That all.

00:28:12:19 - 00:28:15:28
Lockie
Then and we got.

00:28:15:28 - 00:28:24:05
Lleyton
It like, as, as lucky said, I, damned a couple of pros. The first time I've ever been on the, funded Instagram, and he panicked.

00:28:24:06 - 00:28:26:19
Lockie
Yeah.

00:28:26:21 - 00:28:28:14
Lockie
And we got two responses.

00:28:28:16 - 00:28:38:15
Lockie
All I saw I like, because obviously we both get the notifications. It's like same laid low dmg. And I was like, what the hell is it? Why is it envy going on? It's obviously unfunded. Nothing.

00:28:38:16 - 00:28:40:02
Lockie
Oh no.

00:28:40:05 - 00:28:41:27
Lockie
Wait. And what have you done?

00:28:42:02 - 00:29:02:03
Lleyton
So I asked him if they had any funky you pre-race rituals cause these triathletes out here, they're all a bit autistic. Yeah, on the spectrum, I would say, they're all funny kind of unit. Anyway, same dick. I said, you need to in a nice, casual way. They used to write. He's taught on on the back of the race briefing, which is fair enough.

00:29:02:09 - 00:29:17:26
Lleyton
And now he tries a little hard, to his mate who died in a training accident. Oh, nice. Okay. So that's in the day 100 when I walk out, so that's quite nice. That's a new thing. And then,

00:29:17:29 - 00:29:18:18
Lockie
What did Lilo.

00:29:18:18 - 00:29:29:08
Lleyton
Say? Sam? Sam, I'd like go back to us. Andy. Hey, if it works, it works. I mean, but he said he sends nudes to for every race.

00:29:29:11 - 00:29:31:07
Lockie
I mean, does he?

00:29:31:12 - 00:29:33:21
Lleyton
I don't think he does. I think it was a mistake.

00:29:33:27 - 00:29:39:08
Lockie
Oh. I mean, I'm still 5050 on it. I wouldn't I mean.

00:29:39:08 - 00:29:42:11
Lockie
I wouldn't be surprised if that's the kind of relationship they had.

00:29:42:16 - 00:29:48:24
Lleyton
Maybe then we don't we don't condone sending no, no to know anyone.

00:29:48:28 - 00:29:57:27
Lockie
So that has to be consensual. Yeah. All right. So if you're going to start doing something like that make sure it's consensual. But hey look Sam, Sam Laidlaw and, Matty Hazard, two of the best triathletes in the world.

00:29:57:27 - 00:29:59:24
Lleyton
Yeah. So maybe it was respect.

00:29:59:24 - 00:30:01:23
Lockie
Respect the hustle, if that's what they're doing.

00:30:01:23 - 00:30:08:15
Lleyton
Yeah. So. Well, maybe that was a how should was should we start doing it? Start doing it.

00:30:08:18 - 00:30:09:28
Lockie
No, let's not do that.

00:30:10:06 - 00:30:11:08
Lleyton
Definitely not.

00:30:11:11 - 00:30:15:02
Lockie
With podcast. Buddy. You need to be on the buddy. No, no. Whatever floats your boat. Hey.

00:30:15:09 - 00:30:19:05
Lleyton
Yeah. So, there you are. Great responses by the pros.

00:30:19:05 - 00:30:22:29
Lockie
Yeah. Thank you very much. All those people for, really.

00:30:22:29 - 00:30:27:13
Lockie
Sarcastic responses ruining Leighton's ruling, making.

00:30:27:13 - 00:30:29:11
Lleyton
The podcast an absolute shambles.

00:30:29:11 - 00:30:32:14
Lockie
Yeah, it's a joke. We get it. It's fun. You get it?

00:30:32:17 - 00:30:33:00
Lleyton
Yeah.

00:30:33:02 - 00:30:34:18
Lockie
Down to the preview.

00:30:34:20 - 00:30:38:26
Lleyton
Yep. Napier preview. Over the ditch.

00:30:38:29 - 00:30:40:23
Lockie
On the north ditch.

00:30:40:25 - 00:30:47:01
Lleyton
On the North Island. It's quite a nice area, isn't it, Napier, have you been? No. Okay. Apparently, though, it.

00:30:47:01 - 00:30:48:00
Lockie
Is, it is pretty nice.

00:30:48:00 - 00:30:50:04
Lleyton
It's obviously Mount Mangini, we call it.

00:30:50:04 - 00:31:05:02
Lockie
Don't ask me questions like I think. So don't ask me questions like that. I have no idea, but it is honestly, like if you went into Napier and saw the town, it's like. It's almost like a movie cast. Like it's almost like a like a set up. Like a like a real old school.

00:31:05:04 - 00:31:07:26
Lleyton
Home in a way you can't vibe. It's like lighting, you know.

00:31:07:26 - 00:31:13:08
Lockie
Honestly, it's like, and I'm going to get this really wrong, but it's like the 1800. It's almost like 1800s. Yeah.

00:31:13:08 - 00:31:14:06
Lleyton
Right backwards.

00:31:14:06 - 00:31:20:12
Lockie
Like it's like some white days. Yeah. Well, I guess I was like an art 1800s. Could be. That's probably a little bit too old for TV.

00:31:20:12 - 00:31:20:23
Lleyton
Yeah, but.

00:31:20:24 - 00:31:22:19
Lockie
What kind of days? I don't know, whatever. That was.

00:31:22:19 - 00:31:23:21
Lleyton
1959.

00:31:23:23 - 00:31:39:27
Lockie
50. So we'll go with that one 1800 is a bit of a stretch. What was that? The mummy's also out of that tonight. Anyway, it's real, real cool. A real small town, but yeah. Coastal. Really nice where they have the, like, set up transition and, where you sort of start the run, come through in the black and everything.

00:31:40:03 - 00:31:58:19
Lockie
There's these houses along and then balconies obviously laying out over the course, and all the people just get out with the Cape flag and they really get around the rice. So it's been really cool because it is such a small town. Like, I remember we were going to coffee shops and the last time I was there, are you right in the World Cup tomorrow it's like.

00:31:58:22 - 00:32:01:22
Lockie
Yeah, yeah.

00:32:01:24 - 00:32:03:24
Lockie
No. But they really get around it, which is nice.

00:32:03:27 - 00:32:12:07
Lleyton
As I have a, like a very traditional trough on there. Like, is it part of, like, Napier Triathlon Festival? There is a nice standalone event.

00:32:12:08 - 00:32:18:29
Lockie
It is an IPA triathlon festival. I accidentally bought a t shirt in my entry. So nice. Yeah, I get a Napier truck. I'll wear it next up.

00:32:18:29 - 00:32:22:06
Lleyton
That's really good. 150 bucks. That one?

00:32:22:08 - 00:32:24:24
Lockie
Probably, I don't know.

00:32:24:27 - 00:32:28:15
Lockie
But yeah, I actually added that to the cart somehow, but, Yeah. No.

00:32:28:17 - 00:32:30:14
Lleyton
I did it. It didn't come with entry.

00:32:30:14 - 00:32:32:24
Lockie
No, no, I added it. Yeah, I paid extra.

00:32:32:26 - 00:32:33:13
Lleyton
So that's good.

00:32:33:13 - 00:32:33:25
Lockie
Don't ask me.

00:32:33:26 - 00:32:35:12
Lleyton
To give it to you. I think your mother.

00:32:35:12 - 00:32:37:08
Lockie
She would love that. Yeah, she mum's a son.

00:32:37:09 - 00:32:40:24
Lleyton
I give my brother all my, You know, the phrases they all.

00:32:40:24 - 00:32:41:09
Lockie
The moms.

00:32:41:09 - 00:32:42:01
Lleyton
Are. She loves them.

00:32:42:01 - 00:32:46:01
Lockie
No, mom loves a visor. Oh, mum. Prices for a visor and a finish.

00:32:46:01 - 00:32:47:01
Lleyton
A tail finish a tail.

00:32:47:02 - 00:32:49:05
Lockie
Oh, I don't finish it.

00:32:49:05 - 00:32:52:18
Lleyton
Tells your mom does love and finish it. He'd, she.

00:32:52:18 - 00:33:00:16
Lockie
Actually got an angry at some of my mates before who borrowed towels. And now the finished set finish does go. She's ripped. Some of you boys are not new.

00:33:00:16 - 00:33:01:24
Lleyton
Also not bringing.

00:33:01:24 - 00:33:03:12
Lockie
A new set down, but.

00:33:03:15 - 00:33:06:24
Lockie
I'm just using it to drive on. So yeah, you walk out of the bush.

00:33:06:24 - 00:33:07:24
Lockie
Like, what have you.

00:33:07:24 - 00:33:10:22
Lockie
Got on?

00:33:10:24 - 00:33:11:02
Lockie
Yeah.

00:33:11:02 - 00:33:14:12
Lockie
I love you, mom. Yeah. She's, She'd be listening to this. She should be buzzing. She's got a.

00:33:14:12 - 00:33:15:18
Lleyton
Call. Yeah. That's,

00:33:15:20 - 00:33:18:07
Lockie
But. Yeah. Anyway, let's go to the course.

00:33:18:09 - 00:33:21:03
Lleyton
So I've never been there. But by the looks at the town.

00:33:21:03 - 00:33:21:20
Lockie
What are you saying?

00:33:21:27 - 00:33:29:29
Lleyton
What? I'm saying I've watched the race two years in a row. Yeah, so that's good. That's good. Is, ocean swim on a little pebbly beach, isn't it? Yeah.

00:33:30:01 - 00:33:33:06
Lockie
Not not overly. Not like European pebbly, but it's still a.

00:33:33:08 - 00:33:35:13
Lleyton
Coarse kind of sand. It's not our golden.

00:33:35:20 - 00:33:36:14
Lockie
The golden beach on.

00:33:36:15 - 00:33:43:12
Lleyton
The Gold Coast. And I think navy can get a bit windy. Yes. Although. Yes, if I'm correct.

00:33:43:12 - 00:33:49:15
Lockie
Blossom way. Right. It was very windy. I think the last couple times it's been extremely. We need like it's coastal winds.

00:33:49:15 - 00:33:59:18
Lleyton
Coastal winds and obviously coastal winds in the although it's going to pick up. Yeah. So a flat ocean swim. It's not that like it's not a massive wave at all.

00:33:59:18 - 00:33:59:24
Lockie
No.

00:33:59:27 - 00:34:01:22
Lleyton
Pretty nice a kind of area maybe.

00:34:01:22 - 00:34:02:16
Lockie
Bumpy. Yeah.

00:34:02:16 - 00:34:10:27
Lleyton
Bumpy. Choppy. And then one lap ocean swim. Cool on the bike. It's a coastal loop. As we said, the winds.

00:34:10:29 - 00:34:13:06
Lockie
It's not even really a loop. It's an outback, Adam.

00:34:13:06 - 00:34:16:16
Lleyton
But yeah, well, for for loops and five K in.

00:34:16:16 - 00:34:21:21
Lockie
Terms of, like, exciting courses, it's definitely not not an exotic course.

00:34:21:21 - 00:34:24:14
Lleyton
Yeah. It's just off and back. Yeah. Top of us.

00:34:24:17 - 00:34:25:17
Lockie
Basically.

00:34:25:19 - 00:34:29:25
Lleyton
So pretty basic there. But maybe the wind could do a little thing.

00:34:29:25 - 00:34:45:20
Lockie
We definitely plays a factor like wind definitely plays a factor. And I think like we've been working on it quite a bit. Like even in our group, like protecting the group when you're kind of coming back, if you've rolled your turn, going rolling the right way. So the group is protected. I guess it's all just a lot of what you're trying to do.

00:34:45:21 - 00:34:51:19
Lleyton
I remember last year a couple of the Kiwi boys tried to peel off the front. Yeah, for a couple laps.

00:34:51:19 - 00:35:11:04
Lockie
Yeah. I mean, the World Cup I did. We split up into three packs. I think it was three big packs, but it was I think that was probably like three. Oh I don't know what 20 person packs, but, yeah, it's obviously in those kind of conditions it'll probably be big packs, but yeah, how I, I don't know it very well.

00:35:11:04 - 00:35:12:13
Lockie
Could be there's only.

00:35:12:16 - 00:35:14:15
Lleyton
There's not a whole lot on there.

00:35:14:18 - 00:35:16:06
Lockie
The 30 people.

00:35:16:08 - 00:35:25:02
Lleyton
And then the run is out and back. Pretty simple kind of course. Not much to write home about. Not. It's a coastal town council race. Little bit of.

00:35:25:02 - 00:35:26:06
Lockie
Wind. Yeah.

00:35:26:08 - 00:35:30:17
Lleyton
And a bit of chop. That's probably your main factors. Yeah. In this race.

00:35:30:17 - 00:35:32:15
Lockie
It's not going to be an overly exciting course.

00:35:32:17 - 00:35:43:27
Lleyton
No, but that's all right. Yeah that's all right. The fields though. The fields they are great fields for the start of an Oceania series.

00:35:43:29 - 00:35:59:08
Lockie
And what I think was exciting about this, we kind of had question marks last week when we were talking about, is how the world coming back, we we didn't we didn't want to pick in our top three in the World Series because obviously phenomenal athlete. We didn't want to really take the risk of easy coming back to shore.

00:35:59:08 - 00:36:00:01
Lockie
Course he's he.

00:36:00:03 - 00:36:01:01
Lleyton
Didn't want to lose that bad.

00:36:01:02 - 00:36:06:27
Lockie
No you don't 70.3 to 100 with Hayden Wilde. You just need to do it because he can he can do anything you can do.

00:36:06:27 - 00:36:09:09
Lleyton
So versatile so super versatile.

00:36:09:11 - 00:36:10:16
Lockie
He is racing this weekend.

00:36:10:16 - 00:36:12:06
Lleyton
He's number one on the stat line.

00:36:12:06 - 00:36:15:13
Lockie
He won't be number one next weekend. No not kidding.

00:36:15:16 - 00:36:17:08
Lleyton
Well you better go after him then.

00:36:17:08 - 00:36:20:18
Lockie
Hey I know the amount though. I'm actually kind of nervous.

00:36:20:22 - 00:36:22:19
Lleyton
The same in person. I, you.

00:36:22:22 - 00:36:29:06
Lockie
Know, I'm a keyboard warrior. Hey, hey. How are you? Nice to meet you there. We made it. Where?

00:36:29:06 - 00:36:30:28
Lleyton
He's, Hi, guys.

00:36:31:00 - 00:36:32:03
Lockie
Oh, we're in an unfunded shirt.

00:36:32:03 - 00:36:50:03
Lleyton
Oh, yeah. Good. I gave you one. Okay. You can buy them at unfunded shot there. You can. So it's quite a good start. Liz Haydn's back on the start. This. Obviously, it's a bit of a primer before Abu Dhabi. Wait. Guessing? Yeah. He hasn't released his race schedule? No. Which is? We lock that.

00:36:50:05 - 00:36:53:18
Lockie
Just don't release one. You haven't won. You haven't released one.

00:36:53:18 - 00:37:00:25
Lleyton
Just don't release it. Don't release on. Scott hasn't released it. He's going to drop in to Napier. I think it's pretty local to him.

00:37:00:25 - 00:37:03:18
Lockie
Yeah I mean New Zealand. It's pretty good, isn't it.

00:37:03:20 - 00:37:10:05
Lleyton
But it's a good start list. You've got height in there. Schofield. Twins yourself.

00:37:10:07 - 00:37:10:27
Lockie
Your socks.

00:37:11:04 - 00:37:13:10
Lleyton
I'm not going to go through everyone. We'll go, we'll go.

00:37:13:10 - 00:37:30:16
Lockie
We'll go through the top ten because it's kind of like you probably got actually, now I'm not going to go to the top ten because only ten on the elite start list. Let's go. Hey toward Luke Schofield James Corbett, first time seeing James Corbett in the tri under the world tri banner. So he's not under the New Zealand banner anymore.

00:37:30:20 - 00:37:35:11
Lockie
Saxon, Morgan and myself obviously. Then you got it. Yeah. You just go for the new Damian.

00:37:35:11 - 00:37:36:22
Lleyton
He's a good, Canadian.

00:37:36:22 - 00:37:41:17
Lockie
Really good runner there. So there's still some pretty, good boys in the mix. And then obviously.

00:37:41:17 - 00:37:43:21
Lleyton
Under 20 threes as well. We can't forget about them.

00:37:43:21 - 00:37:50:27
Lockie
Have Andrew Henry McMeekin, Logan Campbell, Jack Chrome Oscar. Wootton. And then

00:37:50:29 - 00:37:54:11
Lleyton
Basically just got a heap of. Yeah. 20 threes.

00:37:54:11 - 00:37:56:19
Lockie
K was lots of K actually pretty big.

00:37:56:25 - 00:37:58:05
Lleyton
Yeah. It's good to be 23.

00:37:58:06 - 00:37:59:04
Lockie
So this.

00:37:59:06 - 00:38:01:16
Lleyton
Yeah. The 20 threes there.

00:38:01:18 - 00:38:02:15
Lockie
The females.

00:38:02:17 - 00:38:05:11
Lleyton
The females. They also have a Rufus start list as well.

00:38:05:12 - 00:38:25:25
Lockie
You got surprisingly quite a lot of the Kiwi girls are actually jumping in on this. You know black obviously. You know Nicole Van Dike, Roderick Ainsley Thorpe. Yeah I have a good Goodison. Like there's some really good girls and then the Aussie contingent as well waiting. Ellie Hoytema, Charlotte Derbyshire, Rochelle Hills, Sophie Mallow wiki like.

00:38:25:27 - 00:38:32:29
Lleyton
That's a good like that's a good cop kind of level girls world series some of them they're.

00:38:32:29 - 00:38:46:27
Lockie
Our best. They're our best kind of like probably like New Zealand and Australian show girls. And then when they're going up against like, Aspen Anderson, it's going to be really cool to see Aspen Anderson in that, I don't know too many of the other 23 girls or something.

00:38:46:28 - 00:38:48:12
Lleyton
Like that, but.

00:38:48:14 - 00:38:49:29
Lockie
I know Aspen Anderson is very good.

00:38:50:02 - 00:38:54:04
Lleyton
Yeah. Yeah. So two very good start lists.

00:38:54:07 - 00:38:57:04
Lockie
It's going to be exciting. I mean, like like we said, we're just excited. The racing.

00:38:57:04 - 00:39:10:01
Lleyton
Back. I don't know if there's a live stream usually New Zealand do put on. Okay. Little live stream. I feel like a phone. I found quality one. So hopefully that's on. Yeah, maybe I'll watch it if it's on. Thanks, mate. Yeah, that's nice.

00:39:10:04 - 00:39:13:15
Lockie
That's nicely put. 1 p.m. men's race. Because I'll be honest, I didn't know.

00:39:13:20 - 00:39:29:24
Lleyton
Yeah, well I actually looked at the, the athlete brief because I'm gonna try be well better with that this year with. Yeah of course previews and that kind of stuff. Yeah. Because last year we were talking about Abu Dhabi being on the bloody, race track race track.

00:39:29:27 - 00:39:37:01
Lockie
Wasn't they. They changed it a bit. Obviously they changed I think that I think it was a pretty recent change. But yeah, that was pretty bad from us.

00:39:37:01 - 00:39:37:20
Lleyton
Yeah.

00:39:37:23 - 00:39:41:05
Lockie
But hey look, last year this time last year we were pretty new. So we've kind of we.

00:39:41:05 - 00:39:42:01
Lleyton
Were.

00:39:42:03 - 00:39:43:28
Lockie
We've got we've got the things.

00:39:44:01 - 00:39:50:23
Lleyton
Speaking on Abu Dhabi actually news has come out that they've upped the prize money for Abu Dhabi World Series.

00:39:50:23 - 00:40:17:21
Lockie
I mean, I think it was Taylor Spidey. I think even saying Taylor spot, I mean, obviously she's a regular on the World Series course, World Series circuit. She was like, not I wouldn't say vocal, but she was kind of like, one about time. And is this also going to be across the whole series? Because there's been quite a while where it's been a increase, sorry, a decrease in prize money, not an increase.

00:40:17:21 - 00:40:39:01
Lockie
It's the first time in quite a while we've had a yeah, an increase in prize money. Like, it's really tough as a short course athlete to see, like almost find a reason to stay in the short course saying when you got races like, like the challenge race is offering a lot of money. You got Iron Man offering a lot of money, you got T 100, obviously, like PTO like kind of going.

00:40:39:01 - 00:40:39:26
Lleyton
On to salaries.

00:40:39:26 - 00:40:47:28
Lockie
Yeah, exactly like massive money. So it's really hot. And you've seen Tyler Spidey kind of go into the tournament hiding a little bit higher obviously. Like chasing the coin.

00:40:48:05 - 00:40:51:05
Lleyton
Yeah. Sam Deco is gone. The is up for you.

00:40:51:05 - 00:40:55:00
Lockie
I think we saw I'm not going to like I'm not going to sort of state.

00:40:55:00 - 00:40:56:10
Lleyton
This.

00:40:56:12 - 00:41:15:24
Lockie
Been bit more articles about this, but like the salaries of athletes in different sort of, logical like not sanctions, but I guess, races like you had your Matty Houser who just stuck to the World Trophy. Yeah. Cause and you had, you had a what on the team 100 and the sort of the Norwegian stick to the Pro series of Ironman.

00:41:15:24 - 00:41:18:05
Lockie
It was like, who kind of got the most money.

00:41:18:11 - 00:41:18:20
Lleyton
Out on.

00:41:18:20 - 00:41:21:20
Lockie
Top. Yeah. And I mean, Houser was like, well, he was.

00:41:21:20 - 00:41:26:23
Lleyton
Yeah. And he was the biggest grossing, like, short course athlete.

00:41:26:23 - 00:41:35:08
Lockie
Like by a mile. Like you couldn't really profit much more than what house it did. But he was still so far away from the others. So yeah, there has to be there has to be a change.

00:41:35:08 - 00:41:45:18
Lleyton
So they've upped it to 28,500 USD for first, 18,000 for second and 12,000 for bronze. Last was that.

00:41:45:20 - 00:41:55:08
Lockie
And I'm pretty sure it was good. Pretty sure from what I remember last time, that's almost like a 10,000 USD increase on is it the win? Oh wow. From what I remember it was about 19,000 for the win.

00:41:55:14 - 00:42:02:03
Lleyton
Yeah that's cracker. Hopefully we can say it you know translate into a whole series. You know increase in prize money.

00:42:02:03 - 00:42:03:05
Lockie
Especially now that whatever.

00:42:03:05 - 00:42:05:16
Lleyton
It does because it is in Abu Dhabi.

00:42:05:16 - 00:42:06:03
Lockie
And they've got.

00:42:06:03 - 00:42:08:19
Lleyton
Money, they've got that Saudi money. Yeah.

00:42:08:19 - 00:42:09:27
Lockie
They've got some coin.

00:42:09:29 - 00:42:10:11
Lockie
Like.

00:42:10:11 - 00:42:27:24
Lockie
We've we've finally got a really good World Series got like last year there was a, I think there was a little bit of mix up in like they canceled some races, they last minute additions to some races. But like we've got a good Henry series here, like a really cool ten rate and some really cool locations around the world.

00:42:27:27 - 00:42:40:11
Lockie
So like again, capitalize when we can draw funds in such a good spot right now. Let's more money, more athletes, better performances, bigger growth.

00:42:40:14 - 00:42:41:00
Lleyton
Love that.

00:42:41:01 - 00:42:42:16
Lockie
Maybe we should just run this. We should run.

00:42:42:16 - 00:42:45:25
Lleyton
This. I think we should be on the how do we get on the World Triathlon board?

00:42:45:26 - 00:42:46:17
Lockie
Oh my God.

00:42:46:17 - 00:42:47:19
Lleyton
I can we could run the show.

00:42:47:21 - 00:42:53:28
Lockie
One of the best ideas you've ever had. I mean, no, no, no one's on it. Forget the t shirts we're running trough.

00:42:54:00 - 00:42:57:06
Lleyton
We're running trial. Who agrees?

00:42:57:09 - 00:43:02:14
Lockie
To listeners, mum says yes.

00:43:02:16 - 00:43:19:17
Lockie
For everybody. Well, that is the return to racing. It is again, the first race week of the year. Well, for us that we've kind of been back on the show, if you're racing and you Aussies, Kiwis, Canadians, I think there's a South African in there. Five. Anyway, if you're watching.

00:43:19:19 - 00:43:21:19
Lleyton
Good luck. Good luck. Rides fast.

00:43:21:19 - 00:43:26:27
Lockie
Also hope you, got something out of a really good preview of the course that we did.

00:43:27:00 - 00:43:34:23
Lleyton
Well, you'll see it there when you go ride it the morning of the race. Yeah. Remember, you know, after, you know, not twiddling my thumbs all day.

00:43:34:23 - 00:43:42:16
Lockie
Exactly. And thank you to anybody you send in rituals. Whether it was a sarcastic one or whether it was a serious one, I don't know if you actually do up.

00:43:42:18 - 00:43:44:12
Lleyton
I think a lot of them were serious.

00:43:44:12 - 00:43:54:28
Lockie
I don't think so. I don't think people will wind up in thongs. But, Anyway, regardless, thank you. Thank you for listening. Thank you to responding. Yeah. Giving light and a bit of hope that. Yeah.

00:43:55:00 - 00:43:56:19
Lleyton
He will respond to me.

00:43:56:21 - 00:44:01:03
Lockie
Exactly, Audie. Cheers, legends. And, see you next week.

00:44:01:06 - 00:44:01:17
Lleyton
But.