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And in other news, water is wet and the sky is blue.
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Back to their full roster, the nerds thought it would be good to get back to the 2020's and chose to watch, dissect and brutalise Black Adam, the latest (at the time of this posting) installment in the DC Expanded Universe.
Now, the pedants among you might be wondering why an episode about a DCEU movie isn't in the DCEU Movies season/series. The reason is quite simple: it's because fuck you, that's why. 😘
Back to this glass of warm water of a movie: if I had to describe it with a single word, it'd be disappointment. The source material is incredibly interesting; Dwayne Johnson certainly looks the part (even though he certainly lives up to his nickname with regards to both his on-screen charisma and his acting ability beyond just playing himself); and most of the casting choices were very solid (Henry Winkler did catch me by surprise, though, not gonna lie). So what the fuck happened?
What's that now? Warner Bros. is what happened? Yeah, that tracks. 😒
———
Back to their full roster, the nerds thought it would be good to get back to the 2020's and chose to watch, dissect and brutalise Black Adam, the latest (at the time of this posting) installment in the DC Expanded Universe.
Now, the pedants among you might be wondering why an episode about a DCEU movie isn't in the DCEU Movies season/series. The reason is quite simple: it's because fuck you, that's why. 😘
Back to this glass of warm water of a movie: if I had to describe it with a single word, it'd be disappointment. The source material is incredibly interesting; Dwayne Johnson certainly looks the part (even though he certainly lives up to his nickname with regards to both his on-screen charisma and his acting ability beyond just playing himself); and most of the casting choices were very solid (Henry Winkler did catch me by surprise, though, not gonna lie). So what the fuck happened?
What's that now? Warner Bros. is what happened? Yeah, that tracks. 😒
Creators & Guests
What is You're Wrong?
You're Wrong is on permanent hiatus, but Chris, Luciano, Matt and Spencer aren't! They have a new podcast, dedicated (almost) exclusively to movies, called Popcorn & Plot Holes. Come listen to their ramblings at https://popcornandplotholes.transistor.fm/ or anywhere you get your podcasts from!
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Congratulations.
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Yeah, I love Borson cheese.
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you're emotionally charged.
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Oh,
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spencer_was_a_mistake_:
We're going to chuck you out. Sing you to a planet.
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Logically, I should poke your eyes out.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
I have returned to derail this podcast.
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Welcome.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Professionally, thank you. I'm back back again. Something about M. M. We're gonna
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Why
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us in ruin.
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and kidnapped me
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and said This is for my boo, Spencer,
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and then The knock out stuff,
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Chloroform?
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chloroform you?
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cloriform, Yes,
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He learned that from me.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
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didn't want to lose
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they've
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that.
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crossed over.
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this week we have decided to attempt to redeem the movie that is Black Adam. even though D C. S decided to just scrap all the universe, Think it's important to look at their mistakes and fix it for them. The West Side boys might have been fired by D
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mistake.
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but they're still here in our hearts, somewhere in a closet,
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You by side, boys, boys, boys
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So black
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Are they in the
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Adam,
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Fantom zone?
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they are in the
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fantamzone, Black Adam or Black Adam
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But Black
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it's
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twenty two,
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He.
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Block at him,
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the rock vehicle.
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that's that's very apt.
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Very much
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true.
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case,
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This is super true. Who wants to? I'm back first. I'm gonna go first because I'm
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You
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back
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go
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and
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first
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I'm feeling I'm feeling the energy burst that only I can have, which is not negligible to everybody else
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Reaching
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reaching normal levels for everybody else.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Peaking normal levels. Um, this is what we got. I think you guys put something in double vendor trash last week with the
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It was legendary
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Dragon movie
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vendor
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trash.
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Enter
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new ter H has arrived.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Okay, I's great. This does not qualify for that. I think it's it's common. It's common because it tries to take elements of a bunch of movies and stuff them into one movie to make a hybrid a chimera of sor Of a movie. I guess it fails. Mostly it's okay, Paint by numbers super hero movie that if I never watched again, I wouldn't be saddened by one or two cool action sequences. The rock has shown us that he is this generation's worst actor in terms of emotional scale in range, So that was fun to see.
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spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Well,
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Yeah?
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true.
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two years
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ago.
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spencer_was_a_mistake_:
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So much to talk about
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
so many things, so I'm goin t yield my time as professional Spencer.
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Matt. calm down. Your enthusiasm
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Okay,
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is too
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I'm
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high.
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sorry,
cobra:
Eh,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
thank you.
spinner:
Um, I agree with you. I don't think there's a movie more common than this movie. This movie is
cobra:
Uh,
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legendary, common
whack_adam:
Oh yes,
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Nice.
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yes,
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I like what you
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did there.
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yes,
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it. this movie would have been. This movie is the best movie that came out in two thousand for ever, because it is like that era.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Yep,
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Like actually, like Super Hero movie, And it's like it's been in like development for like fifteen years and it shows
whack_adam:
Which is sad.
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like it just shows that, Like if this came out after Spider Man, like the Toby Mc Guire, Spider Man's, it'd be Ike. Oh, this is cool.
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like. I did like the scene where they do the three hundred thing that was fun
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Which
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one of them?
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right, at the beginning of the movie where they kill that old dude and then like basically three hundred m off the cliff and
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really
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slow
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Oh,
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motion.
whack_adam:
Sadly,
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this is an dark.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Yeah,
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Yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
exactly
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yeah,
spinner:
Yeah, that was that. Oh man. that opening. So this movie started so bad for me. It did. It did that thing that happens in bad movies where it starts off so bad that when it gets to like average, you're like Oh, this isn't
cobra:
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yes,
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And and it's like,
whack_adam:
That's how they get you
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spencer_was_a_mistake_:
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spinner:
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spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Yeah,
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yeah, when Black Adam was like making jokes, I was like this doesn't track,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Yeah,
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And I liked him killing people and being onapologetic about it. That was nice. So that's it common for me? Um, that is all so much to say, Because this movie is very bland. I yield. my time.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Chris, Chris, take his time. Put it to
whack_adam:
This.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
bad use.
whack_adam:
This, this movie was so legendary common. I would enjoy eating
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M.
whack_adam:
a plain, un toasted slice of bread more than watching this movie again,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Hey,
whack_adam:
or even for the first time
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Chris.
cobra:
Room temperature. No, no,
whack_adam:
Crust.
cobra:
Yeah, no crust onder
whack_adam:
Oh,
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bread.
whack_adam:
I keep the see. I like crust, but I would remove the
cobra:
That's
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crust
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the thing
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to feel to feel something.
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to feel. something.
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M.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Of course, I
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feels.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
have to ask. Did this movie steal your emotional energy and put you at the level of me? Is that what
whack_adam:
It
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
happened?
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did. it
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Yeah,
whack_adam:
transfigured me. It
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Try.
whack_adam:
cast a sparrow a spell into into host. Matt.
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It turned
whack_adam:
Um,
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us all into Matt.
whack_adam:
you know,
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I, too, did not like this movie.
whack_adam:
I wanted to feel something and now I feel everything.
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Why it was? I do feel pain.
whack_adam:
Yes, Yes, this movie turned me into into a sexatraon five out.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
It's a hand
spinner:
That was.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
jibber five thousand,
whack_adam:
Yeah, it's a hand
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Thank you very much.
whack_adam:
hand five
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Yeah,
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thousand. Yes, I appreciate that.
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the rock has an effect on Beovle
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
He does.
whack_adam:
Yeah, this movie was legendary. Common. It had so much potential and I'm angry about it. I'm very. I'm very angry. This. this should be vendor trash, but we, but we have legendary comment because of those flashes of things, so I yield my time for a lot of the reasons that at my buddies have already listed. Let's fucking tear this one apart and build something new. That's better, script, doctor. I'm ready. but anyway,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
I think
spinner:
Fair
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
he's done. Go ahead, Luciano.
cobra:
All right I was. I was waiting with bated breath. What else is coming? But no, Okay. Much like this movie left me waiting with bated breath. Um,
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cobra:
yeah, it was. I had the same feeling as Spencer was like it started, and I commented this on this cord. Within five minutes. I was like there's like seven things wrong with this movie already, But then it got to like. It almost got me to uncommon, and then the third act happened and I'm like Fuck this ship and went back to common for me where I'm not gonna be labored too much of the points that everybody else made. But yeah, it's there was so much like weirdness in the way that certain directions happened in the way that like the story beats happened where I went a bunch of times that I went. But but why why that this happened this way?
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Class
cobra:
It's not like it had a reason. It's just like someone said. Oh, this is going to be cool. And then it just happened. so
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Classic, D,
whack_adam:
Hm.
cobra:
Yeah,
spinner:
C. storytelling.
whack_adam:
suckers.
cobra:
yes, yes, And also, this movie was two hours long and as again, a D C movie thing. If it didn't have as much slow mo as it did, it could have probably
spinner:
M,
cobra:
been like twenty
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M,
cobra:
minutes less.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
They could
cobra:
It
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
also
cobra:
have been fine.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
have chopped off the fourth act and also made it half an hour shorter.
cobra:
Yeah,
spinner:
Did this movie have acts
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
I don't know. it's
whack_adam:
That's
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
this.
whack_adam:
a
spinner:
at?
cobra:
It
whack_adam:
very
cobra:
tried.
whack_adam:
good question.
spinner:
Feel,
cobra:
it tried.
spinner:
feels like a fever, dream
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
So
cobra:
Like the third
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
ye,
cobra:
act got like shot in the back of the head way too early. and then they were like Oh ship. the move is not done. Let's continue So yeah, anyway, let's get to the the questions. I think. I think we've all belabored the point more than this movie deserves.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
The points have been labored
cobra:
Even Bruce agrees.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
One second.
spinner:
Bag.
whack_adam:
This message from Werther's
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
I'm
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M.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
just going to edit that out, you fucking monsters. So our first question we do. the only is like our only nice question. we have like one and then we go right into the sitter. so let's just get out
spinner:
Bread
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
of the way.
spinner:
for the jugular.
cobra:
Yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
favorite favorite character. A
cobra:
Dr.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
favorite character
cobra:
fate,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
that stuck out
cobra:
Dr. Fate by a mile and a half, better
whack_adam:
Yeah, I'm
cobra:
character
whack_adam:
very.
cobra:
than all the other characters of this movie put together for me.
whack_adam:
I'm very angry about
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Is that,
whack_adam:
how
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
because
whack_adam:
they did
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Pierce
whack_adam:
him.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Brasen can always get it no matter what age and what thing he's doing,
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Oh, he can get
cobra:
It's
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it goddamn
cobra:
It's not
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right if
cobra:
not
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he can
cobra:
part of it. Yeah, know, it's but it wasn't just that I like the way he played it. I like the visuals and the design for it To know that style is super cool. Um, which made me mad at the end when you know not because he dies, but because like, Oh, this is a helmet that is a billion years old than he chooses. Who can touch it. But like you know,
spinner:
Here
cobra:
just some other dudes going to use the power Because reason. So
whack_adam:
True.
cobra:
I really love, and I don't Know as much about the C as I do about Marvel. I don't think I had ever even heard about Dr. Fate, but later on I went to read about it. It's a super cool character. I think this one character was done just as I really. I really enjoyed it. so that's my. That's my fix.
spinner:
Fair,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Spencer. Do you have a bottle?
whack_adam:
That
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It's
whack_adam:
was
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weird.
whack_adam:
the energy of the entire movie.
spinner:
Yeah, it's weird. it's weird that I'm having difficulty picking my favorite character. not because they're all bad, but because there were some good ones like. I actually liked some of them and hated others. Hated hated others. But Dr. Fate was great. I really liked him. I liked Hawk man, too, Actually thought he was pretty cool and the guy like was decent with what he had.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
I wanted to like Hawk Man, and I couldn't decide if I just like the actor. I, I think I like the actor, but there's just times when his character was like so
spinner:
Aggressive.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
one dimensional
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Yeah,
cobra:
Yeah. yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
it
cobra:
I agree.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
was cringe.
spinner:
That's what I mean when I say that he did well with what they gave him because it's like he
cobra:
Yeah,
spinner:
was. Sometimes he was like, just overly like black and white, like right and wrong and like like mind, be a peacemaker Where he's like we'll keep the peace and it doesn't. I don't care how many women and children have to kill to do it. And it's like that kind of like.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
But at least Peacemaker is like a party and
spinner:
Yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
we all
spinner:
exactly
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
understand
cobra:
Uh.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Hawk Man is like straight straight
cobra:
Yeah.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
man
cobra:
exactly.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
peacemaker.
cobra:
Bis
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
It's
cobra:
Maker
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
just
spinner:
Yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
not
cobra:
is
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
fun.
cobra:
a fucking psychopath And so it's
spinner:
he's
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Yeah,
cobra:
funny. Yeah,
spinner:
Yeah. Hawk Man was almost like a dictator in his mind, set of being like you, Stay good and we fuck you up.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Yeah, like when they, when he's like ready to let the kid die for the crown of conduct, It's just
spinner:
People
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
like
cobra:
Yeah,
spinner:
die,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
bro. read the room, Bro.
spinner:
people die.
cobra:
Not just that, but like he was. he was worried about Black Adam killing random. Like Inter, gang, fucking hate that name. By the way,
spinner:
Inter gang,
cobra:
he was like, No, don't kill the criminals, but the kid. If he dies, he dies. You
spinner:
He
cobra:
know
spinner:
does.
cobra:
what you're going to do?
spinner:
he does.
cobra:
Yeah, exactly
spinner:
so, I'm actually going to say I actually like Black Adam. He was enjoyable.
cobra:
Really.
spinner:
The movie was
cobra:
really
spinner:
so much worse before he came into the movie.
cobra:
Fair.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
I mean, yes and no.
spinner:
I think yes
cobra:
Yeah,
spinner:
or no.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
We're going to get into block Adam in a minute. So don't you worry.
spinner:
I'll say my fate, just for to be a little bit different. I will say I like Black Adam as a.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
That's where you're
spinner:
He's
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
going
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my
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
with.
spinner:
favorite character going with Black Adam.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Okay, you're objectively
cobra:
Blickatem.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
wrong, but that's fair. Black, Adam is your choice, Chris.
whack_adam:
Yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Do you have anybody else you like You can
whack_adam:
yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
say
whack_adam:
I do.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
no.
whack_adam:
actually, I
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Okay,
whack_adam:
do. it's a. It's a tie
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M.
whack_adam:
between Henry Winkler, Michael Imperioli in this fucking
spinner:
Oh,
whack_adam:
movie.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Which one was Michael Imperial Base? Henry
cobra:
Yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Rink was the original
whack_adam:
Yeah.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Adam Smasher
whack_adam:
yeah. yeah. it's a way like the kid was running into
spinner:
What
whack_adam:
into
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a weird.
whack_adam:
the streets. Yeah, I like. I don't give a funk about this movie when
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Yeah,
whack_adam:
the kid was running into the streets and he's all like If the rock and throwing up his gagiteit's, like we could do this. People fight the zombis, And there's that one guy who charges for you Like what are we doing? That was Michael Imperioli from the Sopranos, wasn't it?
cobra:
Know
whack_adam:
They
cobra:
what.
whack_adam:
used him over and over again.
spinner:
I think you're wrong.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
I am. D. B does not list as being in this
whack_adam:
I'm
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
movie.
cobra:
Yeah,
whack_adam:
looking for
cobra:
I
whack_adam:
it
cobra:
think
whack_adam:
too,
cobra:
you're
whack_adam:
but he
cobra:
wrong.
whack_adam:
looks like. let's
spinner:
M.
whack_adam:
say discount, Michael Imdperioli.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Okay,
whack_adam:
Those were my two. my
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
you
whack_adam:
two
cobra:
Okay
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
know,
whack_adam:
picks.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
it's fine. We don't need to find
spinner:
He's
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
a time.
spinner:
wrong, but it's fine.
whack_adam:
Yeah, and
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Yeah,
whack_adam:
I don't. I don't care. So
cobra:
Is that?
whack_adam:
that
cobra:
is that
whack_adam:
was
cobra:
the
whack_adam:
it for me.
cobra:
like the tag line for this movie?
spinner:
Yeah,
cobra:
It's wrong, but it's okay.
whack_adam:
Yeah,
spinner:
yeah, basically
whack_adam:
yeah,
spinner:
and Henry Winkler as the original Adam Smasher
cobra:
Was
spinner:
is
cobra:
great.
whack_adam:
Yeah,
spinner:
such an odd casting and
cobra:
Yes,
spinner:
way to introduce him in like a face time call like it was just
cobra:
Yeah,
spinner:
like
cobra:
be careful
spinner:
what
cobra:
in that suit. It's vintage.
spinner:
it's like Marvell does his whole, like you know with a man and the precedurof man in his whole, like Passing of the Torch is a whole big thing.
whack_adam:
Yeah,
spinner:
Classic D. C. just one face time call and it's like Old Henry wink, I mean, like don't writ the suit. Its vintage. Have a good
cobra:
Yeah.
spinner:
day. Good bye
whack_adam:
But he was a loving uncle Because like an, don't let anything happen to you, so I was
cobra:
Yeah,
whack_adam:
fine
cobra:
yeah,
whack_adam:
with it, but at the same time with the fun, just
spinner:
Then,
whack_adam:
like here's my
cobra:
Yeah,
whack_adam:
gin bag. don't scoff
spinner:
yeah,
whack_adam:
it.
cobra:
Yeah,
spinner:
yeah,
cobra:
such a weird. I loved it because it was so out of the blue, but it was so weird.
spinner:
Yeah, it's like
whack_adam:
Yeah,
spinner:
an uncle lending you his car. Don't scratch
whack_adam:
Yeah,
spinner:
it. Be safe
cobra:
Yeah,
spinner:
by
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
I'm going to do this thing of this podcast where I rerailus from talking about nonsense so they can focus on
cobra:
What's
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
how much
cobra:
that?
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
we hate this movie.
whack_adam:
That's
spinner:
Hen.
whack_adam:
fine.
cobra:
How does
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Right,
cobra:
that
whack_adam:
proceed.
cobra:
work?
whack_adam:
proceed.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
It's completely acceptable to not offer an answer, but if you do want to offer an answer about the best characters
cobra:
Yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
being two people, who, one of which are definitely not in the movie and the other
whack_adam:
Yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
one questionable,
spinner:
Yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
we don't need to rift on it for
cobra:
Professional
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
five minutes.
cobra:
podcasters that's
spinner:
no,
cobra:
what we
spinner:
I think
cobra:
are.
spinner:
we should start
whack_adam:
That's
spinner:
naming
whack_adam:
what we are.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Uh,
spinner:
actors that aren't in the movie. I really
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
yeah,
spinner:
liked Christopher Waggin. in this movie.
whack_adam:
You know.
cobra:
Jenifer,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Um,
whack_adam:
No,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
back
cobra:
Jennifer
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
to the question
cobra:
Coolage
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
at hand.
cobra:
did great. Yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
I'll just have to do that out. Its fine.
whack_adam:
Not
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Back to the question at hand, characters or actors we like to the movie. I don't have anything to say after Pierce Rosen, James Fawn can get it any time he wants, and he makes this movie passible to watch. He
cobra:
Yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
is. what is it? The common
whack_adam:
Respect
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
status?
spinner:
Matt wants those that double o seven inches.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
I mean, So that
whack_adam:
Well,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
is
whack_adam:
that
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
that
whack_adam:
sounds
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
like?
whack_adam:
smaller
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Is that
whack_adam:
than
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
like
whack_adam:
seven.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
point zero, Zero, seven
whack_adam:
Yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
inches.
cobra:
Yeah, yeah,
spinner:
Exactly
whack_adam:
you're wrong.
spinner:
what
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
or
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it
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
is
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sounds
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
it just
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like.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
seven inches?
whack_adam:
you're wrong, but it's fine.
spinner:
That's
whack_adam:
It's
spinner:
exactly
whack_adam:
fine.
spinner:
what you think it is.
cobra:
Oh man,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Just curious. My bad for following up with questions on a
spinner:
I'm
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
podcast.
spinner:
like James
cobra:
You.
spinner:
Fawn,
cobra:
really? what
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double o seven inches.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
I
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That
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
got
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doesn't
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
to skip
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sound
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
down
spinner:
good.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
to. what is it? Doesn't That's why we're re railing this.
spinner:
That's fine.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
What is the worst character relationship? Um, Chris is just fucking
spinner:
So
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
given her
cobra:
Ja
spinner:
many
cobra:
hands?
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options
cobra:
He
spinner:
here.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Jes
cobra:
literally
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Sands,
cobra:
Jazhend just
whack_adam:
I'm
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Chris,
cobra:
now.
whack_adam:
taking over this podcast.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Chris,
whack_adam:
Worst
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
take
whack_adam:
character
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
over.
whack_adam:
relationship is the fucking Adam Smasher and Cyclone.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Yes,
whack_adam:
We don't fucking need them.
cobra:
Yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
the
whack_adam:
And
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
worst
cobra:
yeah, yeah, yeah,
whack_adam:
why? and like was he? It was this weird dynamic like. is he? is he respecting her or does he want to get with her? Like?
spinner:
Both.
cobra:
No,
whack_adam:
leave us alone.
cobra:
no,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Chris.
cobra:
it's
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
he
cobra:
the
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
wants
cobra:
same.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
to. Adam. smash her
spinner:
Oh,
cobra:
Oh yeah.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
respectfully,
whack_adam:
Yeah,
spinner:
oh,
cobra:
He. he wants to get in the I of the hurricane. That's why he
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but
cobra:
went
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his
cobra:
to.
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uncle
whack_adam:
Listen,
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already, Adam smashed Er. Henry
cobra:
No.
whack_adam:
Oh,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
M.
cobra:
No,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
M.
whack_adam:
Henry, the fun,
spinner:
The fond
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Yeah,
spinner:
gets
whack_adam:
Adam Smasher,
spinner:
it in. He still
cobra:
Yeah,
spinner:
got it
whack_adam:
All right, So like,
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leather
whack_adam:
let's
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jacket
whack_adam:
get technical.
spinner:
on
whack_adam:
Why would two seasoned like first of all four Justice Society members to go off go after like? I guess. like, like God,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Chris.
whack_adam:
tier or super level,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
can you?
whack_adam:
You
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
can
whack_adam:
don't
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
you do
whack_adam:
need them.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
us and our listeners a favor? If you know,
whack_adam:
Yes,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Can
whack_adam:
sir.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
you give us some of the other justicciety members that maybe should have gone on this mission Besides
cobra:
Yes,
whack_adam:
Oh,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
smash the cyclone?
cobra:
how many
whack_adam:
Let's
cobra:
do
whack_adam:
do
cobra:
you
whack_adam:
this
cobra:
want to put in there? There's so many.
whack_adam:
wild cat
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Yeah,
whack_adam:
One
cobra:
Yeah,
whack_adam:
who's
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
yeah,
whack_adam:
like, like, like a fistacoffs, Fistacof Marshal, boxing brawler, bruiser, but like trainer to Black Canary, so like He's our one of our court martial artists. One, two, original J. Garrick Flash, You could have done that, but they won't do that because this is West Side Boys land. period
cobra:
Yep,
whack_adam:
three, Allen
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With sipos
whack_adam:
Scott, Green Lantern,
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with sidepoits
cobra:
I
whack_adam:
Old
cobra:
was gonna.
whack_adam:
G,
cobra:
that's that was the first one. I was going to say, Fucking Green lantern. Why not?
whack_adam:
Because they're dumb because
cobra:
Yeah?
whack_adam:
they're
cobra:
Okay
whack_adam:
dumb,
spinner:
Because
cobra:
that
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they're not
whack_adam:
they're
cobra:
tricks.
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using
whack_adam:
dumb.
spinner:
that property right now and they can't get the rights to it.
cobra:
Yeah,
whack_adam:
Those are just three off the top of my head. That would be really
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Yeah.
whack_adam:
cool and and like, really and truly am Smasher and Cyclone, or just to play at the young audience that we don't like, Like Funk it like no,
spinner:
Yeah,
whack_adam:
and they did a terrible job at serving them up anyway. That could have been interesting, but they fumbled that bag.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Can we
cobra:
I,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
unpack Why Cyclone is shittier Jubilee for a moment.
whack_adam:
Oh,
cobra:
Is
whack_adam:
I
cobra:
she.
whack_adam:
was trying to.
spinner:
I tell she's
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
What is her actual power? What
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she's.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
does she do?
cobra:
Wait?
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
All
cobra:
will
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
she
cobra:
wait.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
does just take scaffolding and throw it near Black,
cobra:
What
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Adam.
cobra:
she? what she does is she goes into a very colorful slow mo
whack_adam:
Yeah,
cobra:
and
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
M.
cobra:
things happen. That's it.
spinner:
Yeah, the thing that happens is I stop watching.
cobra:
Yeah,
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She throws.
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Encircle them
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with
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yeah.
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spikes so
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they can easily escape because
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the
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guy,
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can fly.
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the guy who has lightning power to melt a car.
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Yeah,
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You're going to stop in with some
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Wind
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random spikes That
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with
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it's a. It's a a bunch of likenirods.
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control
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for.
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lightning
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rod.
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was that her power?
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Oh, fuck, you know what she is? She's discount Storm.
spinner:
That's what I was thinking.
cobra:
Oh, that's better. that's
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She's like
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better.
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Jubilee
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Yeah,
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and Storm mixed together
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Yeah, nice
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the use.
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price.
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it's the. It's the usefulness of Jubilee combined with one of storm powers.
cobra:
Yeah, the least of storm powers.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Yeah,
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Yeah,
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Like you
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yeah,
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know who could ave also swapped her out for they could have swapped her out for Red Tornado, Android, Android Tornado, making wind like meta, but like I would. a sorry, sorry, re phrase, Red Tornado would have been D. C's vision period.
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So,
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fine with just Hawk Man and Dr. Fate. They were cool.
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more characters.
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The
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numbers.
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thing for me is that
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They needed
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not
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where the character is useless, but like the relationship between the two of them makes no sense,
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Cyclone and Adam Smasher
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right,
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ding,
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that's up.
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on this
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show.
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Because
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in
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there's
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again.
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two levels. They don't make sense together and they make no sense logically as additional team
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No,
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members for this mission.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Yeah,
cobra:
but the thing that I wanted to say about them is
whack_adam:
Yeah,
cobra:
that you know Adam Smasher comes off is like this naive, sort of kind of almost dizzy kind of guy, and is just supposed to be a genius And they talk about her genius in the beginning of the movie and that never shows up again,
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She's such
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other than
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What do you understand?
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she
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reacts it like it's just the most normal thing.
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He came off like Brodie Dude.
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I want to
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smash
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would be more fun.
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any other relationships other than Brodie
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I,
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and Adam Smasher,
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Go for it.
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I hate, d hate. Hate, hated the kid in this movie And I'm
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Yes,
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As you know, I'm not one to pick on children actors. I know they're just kids,
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No, do
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but
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it.
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quit and become a construction worker
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failed.
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Jesus,
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Know that kid
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was awful,
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I hate it.
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and
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I hate
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him. I
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character
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hate him.
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and that character relationship was again from like Early two thousand superior
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Oh, you mean
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movies.
whack_adam:
Yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
you mean discount Freddy Freeman from the Chasin movie
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I mean he
cobra:
Yeah,
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was like.
cobra:
yeah,
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It made sense, though, because he was part of the story, but he was and he was great. That kid was awesome. This
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Yes,
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this
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Freddy
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Freeman.
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was.
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yeah,
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this kid
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Yeah,
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was terrible.
whack_adam:
completely.
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so what you're saying is he's not discount Freddy Freeman. He is like Reverse world Freddy Freeman.
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He's like
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Yeah, nice one,
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He's like Michael Bay, written
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Bizaro
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Freddy Freeman,
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for Friday Freeman,
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you go with bizarre
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but that's
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Fred Freeman in the sense
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let's not
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that
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split hairs, but yes,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
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kept
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saying,
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like
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Kill everybody.
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yeah,
whack_adam:
True.
cobra:
And not just that, but like that kid, he was so annoying
whack_adam:
Yeah,
cobra:
to the black Adam that I fully expected Black Adam
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M,
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to punch him into Kingdom Come,
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Yeah,
cobra:
and
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I
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see
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what you did there.
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like,
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He wasn't a good kid either. He was like
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Uh,
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we're being repressed.
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uh,
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Just kill everybody. It's like
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Yeah,
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dude, you hear
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Yeah,
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psychopath.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
In the kid's
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yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
defense, he got that from his mom.
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Yeah,
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true,
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She was
spinner:
Yeah,
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cool all the
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yeah,
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murder.
spinner:
everyone is cool at the murder. I guess
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Yeah,
cobra:
Yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
everybody in Cotackoas.
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because they were like we've been oppressed, so which to be fair, it wasn't even like they had high tech tali Ben on that country being the leaders of that country
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and it was like, So that's just the thing that happens. A gang takes over a fucking country where the apparently is the only place where you can find this super powerful mineral
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
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Blab.
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you want you want to get into this right?
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That's a
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Of
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course
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story.
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do.
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okay. So
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We'll just stay on topic. The kid and the relation with Black Adam was the worst. Any
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Garbage.
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time that kid talked,
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Great,
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I
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Yep,
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was like funk this.
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please,
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go
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away.
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out.
cobra:
All
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Spencer,
cobra:
right.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
or time? Okay? Next question? Um, what was the dumbest thing about this movie? Luciana wants to go first.
cobra:
Oh God, the whole attorneum thing, the whole well, okay, No,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
M.
cobra:
I don't know if that's okay. I'm going to go with it. It's the Attornum thing
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M.
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because there is others like smaller, less important things that bother me because
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Other
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I'm a
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people
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patent,
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will get
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so
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those
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I'll
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for
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keep.
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you. Don't worry,
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I'll keep this. So
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Just while I'm cutting you off. I just want to add that I looked up both up Eternum and Inter Gang, just to be sure they are things that exist in the D C
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Yes,
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universe. So it's
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Yeah,
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not
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it
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just
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doesn't
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ship
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surprise
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They made
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me.
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it for the movie.
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Doesn't
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Still
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surprise
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dumb,
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me.
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but
cobra:
It's like the anthematal thing is the same level of thing. Right exit
whack_adam:
Yea,
cobra:
exists, and it was kind of alluded to, but nobody explained it.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
No, but that's better because the metal
cobra:
Yea, no,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
played.
cobra:
no, no, that's that's not stupid. That's okay.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
the metal played very very little part in the movie. It wasn't a
whack_adam:
True.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
core
cobra:
Yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
central plot point.
cobra:
yeah,
whack_adam:
Yeah,
cobra:
so the whole attornim thing, it's like there's only this one place and only they have it. And like they find it in the sand, buried in the sand. For some reason,
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Yes,
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No, he
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follow.
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said
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And
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was
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it is
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definitely
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calling
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an obtaining.
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No, No,
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Yeah,
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he said. Whatever that material in Black Panther was
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Fibrradium
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Vibranium,
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vibranium
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but
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is different,
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Adamantium.
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andvibratium didn't make them. Not quite the same, but I love the energy.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
All right, Lucia
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spencer_was_a_mistake_:
at you, Get back in your point, Lucia. we've done enough.
cobra:
So yeah, it's like the whole thing surrounding it. It's like. So it's cryptonige for Black Adam. It's an obtainium, for you know
spinner:
The world,
cobra:
everybody else. It can do whatever the fuck makes bikes fly and tell a port. Apparently
whack_adam:
Yeah, yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Yes,
cobra:
it, it's the only metal that can be used to create a crown that, in the end doesn't even really actually matter because of her. That to do, I say the words and go to hell to
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
No,
cobra:
like.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
no, you're You're missing the hell point completely
cobra:
He had to be holding the thing to say. Is that
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
And
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it?
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he had to be killed by Black Adam because he needed Black Adam to send
cobra:
Because
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him to.
cobra:
reasons,
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Yeah, plot reasons, but
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the
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like
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rock of the Rock of Ages, whatever the fun that
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is.
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or
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eternity
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Rock of
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is a good ending.
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the Rock of
cobra:
Yeah,
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Hell,
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Yeah,
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Rock of Ages
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and
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is a musical
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anyway,
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starting,
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yeah,
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of course,
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cobra:
that's what I'm talking about, but yeah, it's like I hate it when they do this and when it's like, some, like you know, with the brief case in Pulp Fiction or even in Ronin, where it's like, Yeah, it's a mcguffin. but it doesn't really matter. It's just a drive. the start. That's fine, but in this case it does everything.
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crown enough of Mc Guffin? Why do we need to muffins?
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Yeah,
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Wait, The crown
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well,
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is
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even
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is Attorneum is the govern for the crowns, Mc Guffin.
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Yeah,
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Yeah, but it didn't need to be everywhere else and do everything else.
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Why not
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Sure,
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just make it? There's
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it has
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a crown that makes you
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powerful.
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going to say
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Like why?
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we can live it for the crypt, doctoring later, but like beyond the Crown, we didn't need the whole metal thing to exist at all, because it didn't play any any actual part.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
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cobra:
Yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
just need to explain how they stop
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think I missed all that.
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M,
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It's onlybecause.
cobra:
Oh,
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I watched it twice. I watched it
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that's
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in the theater
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m,
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no. no,
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and
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watched
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it
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agree,
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today.
cobra:
and I was really mad. I was going to complain and when it happened I was like. Why did it drop the shield? But then at least they explain that, so that's but that's true. You're right. They had to at least allude to it so they could have the shop, but that could
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have
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been
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lot.
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something else.
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They just need to clean up a lot of muffins. and so having one that covers
cobra:
Yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
a lot of things for them, we'll get. we'll fix that later.
cobra:
But I just find it super stupid when they do that where it's like I don't worry about it. It's it's It's meta magic,
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They should
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but
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it's
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matter. Yeah, anyway, that's that to me is,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
The stupidest thing
cobra:
if not the
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
in the movie.
cobra:
like, I guess it is the stupid thing on the movie.
whack_adam:
Real quick. The one sentence dumbest thing for me was
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Hm,
whack_adam:
when when Adriana's brother back at the apartment she like go like they set. they set it up and she goes to the v, c r to open it, but it's gone in The brother's chilling on the couch, wearing this like more door, ter level relic
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Hm,
whack_adam:
just chilling with it and I was like. What the fuck is happening? Like the how? and like when we move through the movie? Sure, there's a spell in and scenarios and factors to Or it. but I was like this is ridiculous because
cobra:
Yeah,
whack_adam:
at that
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as
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point
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food.
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in time we knew we only had certain amount of information like funk. So that was
cobra:
Not just
whack_adam:
for me,
cobra:
that right. it was a whole, like mythology of the place right. That was like this evil thing that you know, black Adam, or path Adam had to fight against or whatever,
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It's
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And
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pronounced
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the
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So
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brother should know
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Black Adam,
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Look
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The brother
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at tothadim
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the brother is.
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Im.
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Yeah,
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Hm,
whack_adam:
like, especially when you have a sister like a professor level sister. you would like you can't be that
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No,
whack_adam:
ignorant.
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Chris,
whack_adam:
So anyways,
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Chris, you're forgetting, he's the funny. He's the funny
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Hm,
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he
cobra:
Yeah,
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does. He does
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that's the
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funny
cobra:
thing.
whack_adam:
M.
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he does the
whack_adam:
Yeah,
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funny.
whack_adam:
yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Laugh at the funny guy.
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Laugh at the
whack_adam:
yeah,
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funny
cobra:
Don't
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people.
cobra:
worry. I died from electricity.
spinner:
I cannot die from electricity. I'm the funny.
whack_adam:
It's fucked.
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Yeah,
cobra:
Yeah,
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He was
whack_adam:
Yeah, because
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Moving
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Mo
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
on.
whack_adam:
ammer, the actor is dope, but anyway
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Sure,
whack_adam:
the comedian is dope, but anyways
cobra:
Yeah,
whack_adam:
going,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
moving
cobra:
it's not
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
on.
cobra:
his fault. it's
whack_adam:
Yeah,
cobra:
not his
whack_adam:
I
cobra:
fault.
whack_adam:
don't blame him.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
we're past them now,
whack_adam:
Yep,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Spencer. Do you ave anything
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Dumb
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
you
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is
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thought
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part
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
was
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of the whole
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
egregiously?
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fucking movie and obviously there's lots of options. but
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Hm,
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when the kid talks the people into fighting the unbeatable army of skeletons, I'm like,
cobra:
Zombis,
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Remember that zombis.
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Un
cobra:
skeleton
whack_adam:
dead
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zombis,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Skeletons is probably too kind to
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And
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
to
cobra:
Yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
what those things
whack_adam:
Scambes.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
are.
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and then they all
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Scamps.
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like
cobra:
combes
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just started. These regular people just were like. All right, We'll just suck these guys up. and then they did like this army sucks
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
These
whack_adam:
Not
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
are
whack_adam:
really,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
just for the listener. If you haven't
whack_adam:
yah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
watched this movie good for you while you
whack_adam:
yah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
listen to this episode secondarily I just want to explain how bad the this. This is the armies of hell, That the whole purpose
whack_adam:
M,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
of Ebo was to release Sorry. Unleash the armies of hell on the earth. They were the shambles, Think evil dead or like, not evil dead. But what's the other one?
cobra:
Now
spinner:
Evil dead. Three.
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the first night of the leaving That like the Romero one,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
No,
cobra:
the black
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
No,
cobra:
and white one.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Well, yeah, but I'm thinking it's not Evil Dead, Army of Darkness, Army
spinner:
Yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
of Darkness,
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man, that was sad.
cobra:
Oh
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I
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yeah,
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mean that as
cobra:
yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Level,
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three
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better better, yes,
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skeletons
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
like skeleton moving, Those are the armies
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But
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of
cobra:
worse,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Hell. Yeah, was worse.
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And
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so
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somehow looking worse.
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somehow yea, so Spencer continue,
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Yes, so when the kid is like, we got to fight for our people because of reasons.
whack_adam:
Plot,
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Don't don't just leave.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
And
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Beanddvyeah.
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and Diamond Dallas Page.
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doesn't diamond Dallas pitch Auquaman symbol.
cobra:
Ah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Yeah,
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She's like The
whack_adam:
Or or Rock Nation is the
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Yeah,
whack_adam:
rock. Dame
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Yeah,
whack_adam:
Dash is the rock.
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They really wanted to make that a thing like like
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Yeah,
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the Waconda Forever
cobra:
Yep.
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thing
whack_adam:
Oh,
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and it
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Oh,
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failed
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that's all
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we've
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hadn't
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got
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Miserably.
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to
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even
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do.
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thought of that.
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Goes
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This
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That
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whole,
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was
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power.
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exactly what that
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this
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was.
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whole movie
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Oh
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is trying
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God,
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to be a lot like Black Panther, I noticed.
whack_adam:
Yeah,
cobra:
Oh
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
This. this
cobra:
no,
whack_adam:
Lockman
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
whole movie
whack_adam:
Tech
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
was trying to be many movies And that's part of the
whack_adam:
and
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
problem.
cobra:
I think
whack_adam:
X Men,
cobra:
you
spinner:
Yeah,
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mean.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Yeah,
cobra:
I think you mean Black panther.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
book planter,
cobra:
That's what you mean right, black panther?
spinner:
Blckanther
whack_adam:
I
cobra:
Yeah,
whack_adam:
had him clan.
cobra:
yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
But anther,
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Blickanther,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
um, back on topic, I ve nailed very, some very good ones. I just I just want to point out the one that I just could not get on board
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Was
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
with.
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it every time the kid scape boarded?
whack_adam:
Oh,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Well, it's kind of that I'm torn between two because one of it's just like this is the most Americanized kid that I've ever seen in my
cobra:
Oh
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
entire
cobra:
yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
life. For
cobra:
yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
a
whack_adam:
Despite
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
kid that
cobra:
yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
is,
cobra:
yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
so
whack_adam:
the rain,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
he's so prideful. Yeah, fuck that, too. He's so prideful about conduct and he's so proud of conduct, but his room is like a fucking fifteen year old like kid in Central city with all
whack_adam:
Yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
of the posters of all this. I would not know that kid lives in conduct by
whack_adam:
Yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
looking at his room or At the way he lives his life.
whack_adam:
M,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
But that's
spinner:
Yes,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
not
whack_adam:
hm,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
even an. I'm mad about what I'm mad about is the entire Sabacc after after they stop him, because it seems like Saba could be a very cool villain for Black Adam to deal with,
cobra:
Yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
And
whack_adam:
Yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
they wasted for the last
cobra:
Completely
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
twenty minutes of the movie
whack_adam:
Yeah,
cobra:
Yes.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
And it's like
cobra:
such
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
there's so
cobra:
a waste.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
much more potential.
whack_adam:
Yeah,
cobra:
Yeah,
whack_adam:
we've got here. We're already establishing threads.
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They only
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This
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had
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is good.
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a two
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That
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hundred
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last
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million
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twenty
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dollar
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minutes
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budget.
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they
whack_adam:
Yeah,
cobra:
really pack the stupid
whack_adam:
oh no,
cobra:
in that last bit of the movie. Holy
whack_adam:
they didn't
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shit,
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I
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Was
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did
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not
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like
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enough
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when he
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budget.
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ripped
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Shed,
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him in half vertically. I always like a good
whack_adam:
true.
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vertical
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Oh,
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rip
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
that.
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and
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
s.
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half.
cobra:
True. that was one of the best scenes in the movies.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
that's on the level of and violet night When he just
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Yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
fires example
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Yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
up through the
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I love a good. I
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
plot,
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love a good
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
The flood
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bad guy. like Final Kill where
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Finish
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like
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and
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they
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move.
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saved the over
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Let's
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the
cobra:
Yeah,
spinner:
top kill for that,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
this is probably good time to, because at this point let's just dive right into our favorite scenes for the further movie. The one thing I was going to say, I really like to ave the expense you mentioned is like when Black
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Splitting
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Adams
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the
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
shows
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guy an
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
up
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ass.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
and well, no, it's actually not that one when Black
spinner:
Okay.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Adams shows up and pops out and just decides that he has. he's not having with any of the Inter gang soldiers.
whack_adam:
Yes,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
I was so proud
cobra:
And
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
of this movie.
cobra:
he,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Just funk, Wasting kids,
cobra:
Yes,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
lightening them down to the ground, just
whack_adam:
Yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
throwing people around like the sheer
spinner:
S.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
carnage.
cobra:
He quick silvered them right.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Yeah,
cobra:
It was full quick silver. like
whack_adam:
Hm
cobra:
moving too fast,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
M.
cobra:
and like rearranging things so they crash into people. Tosses the guys grenade in the guy's mouth.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
I don't be
cobra:
It
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
honest
cobra:
was great.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
with you. I really just want to stay in the cave because once you got of the cave it got a little long in the tooth for me and got a little dumb.
cobra:
Oh,
spinner:
Yeah, I like
cobra:
true.
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the cave
cobra:
true.
spinner:
part was way better.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
The
cobra:
So
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
cave part was
cobra:
in
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
tight.
cobra:
the beginning
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Yeah, the
cobra:
right
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
part
cobra:
right,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
as tight.
cobra:
right,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
That's my favorite scene
whack_adam:
One.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
when
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That
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
it just
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was.
whack_adam:
ah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
comes out and destroys.
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I agree
whack_adam:
yes,
spinner:
with you. That was when I like when they're shooting him and catches a ble and says your magic is weak.
whack_adam:
Yeah,
spinner:
I was like
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Yeah,
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that's actually
cobra:
Yeah,
spinner:
a dope line
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Yeah,
whack_adam:
yeah,
spinner:
and I'm like
cobra:
yes,
spinner:
I was actually like Okay. Here we go like I was like. I'm on board now because the first,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
It's like
spinner:
the first, it was so bad.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
when the movie hits that point, you're like. Could it be
cobra:
Oh
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
uncommon?
spinner:
Yeah, exactly
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
No,
cobra:
yeah.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
the answer
cobra:
exactly.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
was no,
cobra:
that's exactly.
spinner:
no, no,
cobra:
That's
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no,
cobra:
is
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no,
cobra:
actually how I
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no,
cobra:
went.
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no, and then chick comes on. Just just fucking stuffs
whack_adam:
Huh,
spinner:
you back into the fucking box. Go
whack_adam:
If
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boom,
whack_adam:
you like Minos pizza and Hulot Packard printers, I have a movie for you.
spinner:
No number but a number.
whack_adam:
M.
spinner:
Eybodythatsonas. Good. this movie snot so good.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Yeah,
spinner:
No, but you were like they take like he just fucking like, just killed my hopes after that scene, but in that scene I agree mad. I was like. Okay, Okay, let's go.
whack_adam:
Yeah,
spinner:
I don't mind a full movie of this
whack_adam:
True, but we, we, we,
cobra:
Oh,
whack_adam:
we,
cobra:
that would
whack_adam:
we,
cobra:
have been good.
spinner:
Like they should have made this movie like, like we're black, akin to Camandomovie condo
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
M,
whack_adam:
Uh,
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where he's like he's a hero,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
M.
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but he's just killing everybody
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Yeah,
spinner:
and it's like the goal is some stupid thing like like, Oh, he's got to get saved somebody. whatever, But he's just killing everybody till he gets there. That would have been dope. We'll get there. we'll get
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
We'll
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there.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
get down.
spinner:
Sorry
whack_adam:
Same answer.
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I
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I
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derailed
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yield my
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it.
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time
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Thanks Chris.
whack_adam:
honestly, same like. I mean, if I have to, if I had to, just like
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
You
whack_adam:
again,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
don't.
whack_adam:
all the Doctor Fate stuff, period
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
you? A thousand per cent?
cobra:
Yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
do
cobra:
I was
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
not
spinner:
Yeah,
cobra:
gonna.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
have to
cobra:
I was going
whack_adam:
and
cobra:
to say
whack_adam:
Hawk
cobra:
the same.
whack_adam:
Man, and that's it.
cobra:
The dog
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
M.
cobra:
fake for me Is all the the dark fate stuff?
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Great.
cobra:
I live it at that.
spinner:
I like.
cobra:
loved
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I
cobra:
it.
spinner:
did like the Hawk Man fight too, but I've kind of got this thing now where I'm watching two Super heroes fight that are both really strong where I know none of their punches matter where it.
cobra:
Yeah,
spinner:
I stopped. I stopped caring
cobra:
that's fair.
spinner:
because I'm like. Oh, they're
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
I,
cobra:
Yeah.
spinner:
both impervious. Okay,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
I had the same thought I was. like. Take me back to where Black Adam just gets to vaporized kids with lightning Because like,
spinner:
Yeah,
cobra:
Yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
like, I appreciate the simplicity. because
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Wait,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
like there's only
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were they kids like?
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Uh,
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Is
whack_adam:
Yeah, you
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that
whack_adam:
keep saying that
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Maggie said kids have like
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
uh,
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they
whack_adam:
I'm
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were like
whack_adam:
a little.
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adult henchman.
whack_adam:
Were they?
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
They were.
whack_adam:
they gave consent to scription to their
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They
whack_adam:
joining,
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gave
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aren't
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consent
whack_adam:
they?
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
No,
spinner:
to be vaporized.
whack_adam:
Now? they gave consent to join Inter gang, didn't they?
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
No one gave consent to be throwing that far to dat. No, just like I was just like. I'm kind of like you're right all these super hero battles where it's like like it's funny to me that Hawk Man, like I was looking up his powers because Hawk Man's powers are unclear to me. And listen,
cobra:
I did as well.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
If I'm honest about Hawk Man, watching my only experience with Hawk Man is watching the Justice Lead cartoons From Like I Tink. It's late Nineties
whack_adam:
Yep?
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
That Hawk Man sucked. I sucking,
spinner:
Yes,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
hated that dude. I thought
spinner:
Yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
he was awful. This guy was cool like, but also how I don't understand the power level of He can't stop Shazam, like Shazamseems, way more powerful than him, but Shazam never actually does any damage to Hawk Man.
spinner:
Are,
cobra:
Yeah,
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but
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Nothing
whack_adam:
Sorry,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
meaningful happens
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tell
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
to
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you
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Hawk
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out,
whack_adam:
mean
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
man.
whack_adam:
Black
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you
whack_adam:
Adam?
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mean Black Adam,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Sorry, what did I say?
cobra:
Same. same.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Sham,
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Susan.
cobra:
same same chasm
whack_adam:
This,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Black
cobra:
three
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Shazam
whack_adam:
this
cobra:
times. You said Zem three times,
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Yeah,
cobra:
but
whack_adam:
this
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badchesam,
cobra:
you know
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segment brought to you by
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Were theirs.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Strokes,
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Casam, fury, The guts in theaters,
whack_adam:
my okay, Yeah,
cobra:
Yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Yeah,
cobra:
I was. I had the same reaction as like. Should he be able to fight Black Adam? This like to to to
whack_adam:
Let me just hop in.
cobra:
Felt weird.
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M.
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Go
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Can
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for
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I?
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Yeah.
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it augments. and he's considered a mid ter power level, so in general he shouldn't be able to go to to to with
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Yeah,
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with Black Adam,
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like
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and this is going more to script doctoring again, but I would have liked if like, he was a great fighter, so he was able to avoid a lot of his punches
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and
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we're not going to really be able to talk about it in script doctoring, but I do
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want to address it here. I kind
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funk that, but my point is is that let's talk about it because what do
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you guys? What are your initial reactions to seeing this? Like? what? What do you think you're missing out on? Or do you think it was a mistake where you're feelin that
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the rock.
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sucks,
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the rock is a bad actor
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Yeah, he is.
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like
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just let's just call spade a spade. The rock is good at playing himself in movies.
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He's like Arnold.
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everybody
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when he was like just serious. I was. I just play the whole movie serious. That's
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fine. We
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but it would.
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the I watched this movie also after they announced that Henry Cavell was back out of being Superman. So when I saw it, I was kind of like I was kind of like Dan, Like I've said this before In the podcast It takes time for you to see an actor as a character in the comic books. Like, in my opinion, the first movie. it's like you, You're getting to know them. but after a little bit of building like now, I see Alcman as Jason Amo, like he's him to me now, and Henry Kevell
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which is why I was so sad when
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yeah,
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Brandon Routh is my superman. That's all I'm going to say.
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we could go down? That's gonna be a whole other podcast because
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on
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a kid
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get?
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be great.
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That would be confusing. So social,
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don't care.
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I don't care.
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would?
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don't
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would he
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care.
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want him to know
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fur.
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he is as a kid
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made no sense.
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Fuck it.
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just like. like
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Who?
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you,
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spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Uh,
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listen
cobra:
Yeah. hey,
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how
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uh,
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I,
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you found
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Yeah,
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me.
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Oh, no, it is the scoop Doriviluciattle pulls off
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Yeah,
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the mask on with that place. So if it was
cobra:
You or some game goal?
whack_adam:
you know, if we did get Man of steel, the feeling that I got is if it Ontinued from there, it would have been especially based on the dialogue. Like we need to talk. sounds to me like there would have been an exterior threat, a third party that they would have to work out and
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Brainiack.
whack_adam:
perhaps have thank you.
cobra:
Yeah, for sure
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That
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for
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was
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sure.
whack_adam:
what I was picking up because Superman was like. I'll trade fist with you. But we need to talk something else. That ould have been great.
cobra:
Yeah,
whack_adam:
That would have been great.
spinner:
Yeah, the seen last thing saying it's I never, and I have no interest in seeing Black Adam. Erste, Superman, Do not
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You.
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care
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should
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about that.
whack_adam:
you should, it's been done and it's good.
spinner:
I mean, I'm
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Okay,
spinner:
sure it can be done well, but I don't associate those characters together.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
I don't associate good with the D. C. U. so
spinner:
Yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
that's my
whack_adam:
True.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
concern.
cobra:
Yep,
whack_adam:
True.
cobra:
Yep,
spinner:
seeing Superman made me just be like. I'd like to see more Super Man When I saw him. I was like I'd like to see more super Man. I'd like Henry Caveltuperman. I just want to see him get a movie
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Doing
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and
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Be
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right
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super man. Eh,
whack_adam:
Yeah,
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when the fact that it was with Black Adam as like whatever. I'd rather see Chasm
whack_adam:
Yeah,
spinner:
versus Black Adam, Because that makes
whack_adam:
Fair,
spinner:
sense there Like that's like his main villain.
whack_adam:
And you wouldn't feel this way if the d c, e ou had been treated and handled better. And so your reaction makes total sense like I can't. I can't get mad at that at all because they sucked us over. They sucked us all over.
cobra:
Especially in the light of what you said, Spencer were like, you know, super power dude, straight in blows and nothing matters because they don't get hurt. Like
whack_adam:
Actually,
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who? have? What's
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there's
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they
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one.
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would have? Right?
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there's
spinner:
Actually,
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there's only one thing. there's only one thing you. So Kingdom Come, Casam and Black Adam have one advantage over Super Men and it's their powers are magic based. So in Kingdom Come,
cobra:
Yeah,
whack_adam:
spoiler alert, Like if you call down the lining while you've got like Superman, and like, like, like a hold
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It
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of
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hurts
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some sort.
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him right.
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It hurts him.
spinner:
Yeah,
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Yeah,
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I remember
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That's
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that
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the only.
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I read that
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That's the only play you can you can really take advantage of, but they
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Don't
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could have
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they
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expanded
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take like half of that fucking thing to figure that out or something like that
spinner:
Listen,
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before? Like that they figured it out together, don't they or something like that?
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Re, railed,
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It's
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A
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been
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little.
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a while since I've known anything
whack_adam:
Yeah,
cobra:
about it.
whack_adam:
yeah, let's read well, but fair question,
cobra:
Yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Hello, I am.
cobra:
anyway,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
I am your host Matt.
spinner:
M,
cobra:
hello and
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Hm,
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welcome to your wrong.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Hello. welcome
whack_adam:
Hello,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
back to you're wrong.
whack_adam:
welcome
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
M.
whack_adam:
back to play, Adam.
spinner:
I hope you enjoyed your
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
today,
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bathroom
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
we're
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break.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
talking with Lack, Adam, and what I want to know about
whack_adam:
Hm.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Black Adam, Is it's more about the The wizards, the Trazam, wizards,
whack_adam:
Okay,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Who let them make decisions because they are very bad at giving up
cobra:
They
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
the powers.
cobra:
suck at it. Yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
They are one
cobra:
yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
for three potentially right now. Um, and it's a secondary question to that and I don't know if it's in the comic books, but like, is it that easy to just pass chasm powers around once you get them?
cobra:
I hated that thing.
whack_adam:
The Council
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I
whack_adam:
of
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fucking
whack_adam:
Wizards
cobra:
hated that
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Because because like in
cobra:
like.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Zam, he has this staff. And so it's like plausible. Okay, he could. He could give his part of his power to his family
cobra:
Yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
right, And he did like. in theory
cobra:
Yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
in
whack_adam:
Yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Zam, like each one of them gets one of the Casam
cobra:
One
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
powers right. But
cobra:
Or a little bit, at least,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
yeah
cobra:
yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
and black.
whack_adam:
Equally shared
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Yeah,
whack_adam:
a going.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
and Black Adam is just like Black Dams sons, just like you're now Black Adam,
whack_adam:
Yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
and is like. How
cobra:
And immediately gets shot by an arrow
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Immediately
whack_adam:
Well
cobra:
in front of a guy who is super speed. whatever. Yeah, it's dumb. I don't like that at all.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
What are these wizards doing?
spinner:
And also, what was the point of all of that Like
whack_adam:
Of
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really
whack_adam:
all of what? of what?
cobra:
It
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him,
cobra:
was a twist.
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him,
cobra:
It was supposed to be a twist.
spinner:
Him being his son, actually being black, the original of Black Adam, and then him becoming black
whack_adam:
Yeah,
spinner:
Adam. I was like Okay, Who gives
whack_adam:
Yeah,
spinner:
a funk? How you got?
whack_adam:
it didn't hit. Yeah, it didn't hit the way it should have. And
cobra:
Yeah,
whack_adam:
that's their fault. So your question makes a lot of fucking sense because that's the biggest thing. My biggest problem with this entire movie. Not enough real motivation for for for Black Tet Adam, like they attempted it, but it was executed
cobra:
Yeah,
whack_adam:
poorly.
cobra:
it was because he was the first time you see him and you don't even know it's him.
whack_adam:
Yeah,
cobra:
he says. Oh, you know, let let other people be the hero. There's graveyards full of them. That guy goes on to fight the entire fucking country. Just you know that's not. It's completely out of character.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
His
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Well,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
son
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He did
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
died.
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it
cobra:
in
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for
cobra:
my opinion.
spinner:
revenge.
whack_adam:
His son died.
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It
cobra:
Yeah,
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was
whack_adam:
Yeah,
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for revenge.
cobra:
he would
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not
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go
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for
cobra:
kill the person who killed his son, not the entire fucking country, and then his rage destroyed everything.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Listen
cobra:
It's too much,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
now,
cobra:
is what I'm saying.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
tet gladiator, Eth,
cobra:
Uh,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Maximus, Aralia
cobra:
uh,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
had a perfectly good reason
whack_adam:
M.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
to do this. Okay,
cobra:
No, it's not about the reason. it's about the intensity
whack_adam:
But
cobra:
he was. He
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if
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didn't
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I loved, If you're if I like you, lose a loved one in that
cobra:
Again
whack_adam:
in a way like that, you're not going to be in
cobra:
again.
whack_adam:
control.
cobra:
he didn't so like. think about how he lost him.
whack_adam:
Okay
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
He got
cobra:
Okay,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
murdered by assassins.
cobra:
He, he thought
whack_adam:
and they were slaves.
cobra:
he thought. Yeah, so he thought at first he didn't know what happened right because he disappears when he was about to be executed
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
What? his son?
cobra:
and then his son.
whack_adam:
Oh
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Oh,
whack_adam:
yeah,
cobra:
Yeah,
whack_adam:
the first
cobra:
he disappears.
whack_adam:
time
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
yeah, yeah,
whack_adam:
it's the
cobra:
Yeah,
whack_adam:
rack.
cobra:
we and we do
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Did he pa?
cobra:
and we don't know. It doesn't really show on the movie. If his head, His son again, as Shazam or whatever you want is right.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Sure,
cobra:
All that we see is later on his. You know, he gets beaten up and the mum gets beaten up, and then he shows up too late and then he transfers the power and immediately the son dies
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
The
whack_adam:
You
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
son
whack_adam:
explain
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
gets murdered
whack_adam:
it to me.
cobra:
right.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
by assassins,
whack_adam:
Yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
sir,
cobra:
Yes, Yeah,
whack_adam:
the fact we even
cobra:
so it's not.
whack_adam:
go
cobra:
It's
whack_adam:
on.
cobra:
not that I don't understand that you know. The reaction is. what What I'm saying is why did he keep going after?
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
He didn't he? Just,
cobra:
Because
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
he
cobra:
he.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
just went down to the castle.
cobra:
He didn't just do that. In one
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Yes,
cobra:
day
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
he did.
cobra:
he kept going.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
not,
cobra:
No, he destroyed the entire
whack_adam:
Hold
cobra:
country.
whack_adam:
on. hold on,
cobra:
almost.
whack_adam:
guys. The fact that we're actually talking about this shows how fucked up and confusing the story telling was because
cobra:
Maybe, maybe that's what it is.
whack_adam:
because the sun took down the old like the tyrant
cobra:
Yeah,
whack_adam:
King, and then Black Adam blew up everything separate.
cobra:
Yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
No,
cobra:
that's that's
whack_adam:
That's what.
cobra:
that's my point.
whack_adam:
That's
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
no,
whack_adam:
what. That's what.
cobra:
That's what
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
no,
cobra:
I understood
whack_adam:
Do
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
no,
whack_adam:
you
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
no,
whack_adam:
see what
cobra:
as
whack_adam:
it's
cobra:
well.
whack_adam:
with
cobra:
Yeah,
whack_adam:
this?
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
yeah, that's
whack_adam:
What
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
fair.
whack_adam:
this story is done to us?
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
No, the way I got it was, the original story is very intentionally obscuring that it's not his sudden going to see the King.
cobra:
Well, No, it wasn't
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
It's just black Adam.
cobra:
But he was in the process of taking over and that's why the king was so desperate for the crown. That's what I understood.
spinner:
I let.
cobra:
And then he entered there. The king didn't even get the crown and he went to that and exploded.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
So
cobra:
everything
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
so
cobra:
destroyed
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
so
cobra:
the
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
yeah,
cobra:
whole city.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
so
whack_adam:
I'm really fucked up
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
so
whack_adam:
now.
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I
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
not
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like.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
tet Adam,
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I like.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
his son, No, Spencer,
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I like
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
No,
spinner:
the lightning.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
no, no,
whack_adam:
Yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
no, no, shut up. not tet. Adam was freeing the slaves and destroying the country side
cobra:
Yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
and freeing all the prisoners. And that's why
cobra:
Yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
the king
whack_adam:
Wow.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
wanted the crown, and then tet,
cobra:
Yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Adam basically went from watching his son die to just fucking scooted right over and exploded. Everybody.
cobra:
Right,
whack_adam:
M.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Yeah,
cobra:
and it's like, Is that was that? like? Just all in a day
spinner:
Yeah,
cobra:
he
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Yes,
cobra:
lost his son and he immediately went there, exploited
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
yes,
cobra:
the entire city
spinner:
Yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
yeah,
whack_adam:
Yeah,
cobra:
Because that's not how I understood it happened.
spinner:
no, that's what happened.
cobra:
But
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
That's what happened
cobra:
okay,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
and then and then sucking
cobra:
that makes a little bit more
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
the
cobra:
sense.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Wizard.
cobra:
then
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Six were
cobra:
If that's
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
just
cobra:
how
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
like
cobra:
it is,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Hey, we're going to put you in the worst weakest as prison in the history of time and space. You definitely can't get out of here. If someone says your
cobra:
Anybody
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
secret word,
cobra:
who knows how to read can get you out
whack_adam:
Looked on. panic, work for me, brought to you by Werther's
cobra:
And
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How do they capture
cobra:
I thought it
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him
cobra:
weird
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again?
cobra:
because
whack_adam:
Oh so
cobra:
they.
whack_adam:
Siam cast a spell, but I'm guessing I'm guessing the other wizards just sucked and bought time for the spell for the Sizamisapout to be cast. and am sac like, used himself to. well, not even used himself.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
What?
whack_adam:
He
cobra:
No,
whack_adam:
was
spinner:
Yes,
whack_adam:
wrapped up in a little bit,
cobra:
yeah, yeah,
whack_adam:
the Captain Zachary Levishzam, He was still out and about like Chillen, waiting to choose another champion.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Okay? So
spinner:
What the
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
you're
spinner:
fuck are
whack_adam:
Well,
spinner:
you guys? I feel like I haven't even seen
whack_adam:
Yeah,
spinner:
this movie you're talking
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
okay,
spinner:
about.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Chris,
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S
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
you're you're? You're your time jumping. Because
whack_adam:
I know.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
because the six wizards by the time we get to Shazam, with
whack_adam:
Yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Billy Batson and
whack_adam:
Batson.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Savanna, Um,
whack_adam:
Yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
only Damon Hans
whack_adam:
Yep, Jaman.
cobra:
Yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
is alive. Jimonhansthank, You
whack_adam:
it's all
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
is
whack_adam:
gods
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
alive.
whack_adam:
as
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
I don't know what wizard he is, but he's
spinner:
His name
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
the only
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is
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
one
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Jaman
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left
whack_adam:
he's
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Houston.
whack_adam:
He's Chazan. he is Shazanhe
cobra:
Yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
He issues. Am.
whack_adam:
is Shizam.
cobra:
he's
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
what are
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the
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the
cobra:
Shazem
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
rest of the
cobra:
wizard
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
wizards for?
cobra:
right,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
then?
whack_adam:
There
cobra:
yeah,
whack_adam:
is the wizard family, the Council
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Oh,
whack_adam:
of wizards.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
okay, Listen, we don't
spinner:
Jesus
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
need to worry about that.
spinner:
Christ,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
we have to,
whack_adam:
That's what I'm
cobra:
Yeah,
whack_adam:
That's that's how badly
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
but
whack_adam:
they need these
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
the
whack_adam:
people
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
point
whack_adam:
and
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
is
whack_adam:
this story needs
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
is
whack_adam:
us
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
that
whack_adam:
men. you know.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
they don't tell us how shows up in that prison and they all use their powers to contain him, because,
cobra:
Imprison him.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
because they
cobra:
Yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
are in theory, more proud of them as because they give him his powers, So they have the power plus one, and that's how they captured him. They can't take the powers away.
spinner:
The math checks out.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
His son
whack_adam:
M.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
can pass the powers to him, but the guy To control
cobra:
Yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
the powers cannot take them back.
cobra:
no, they
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Reasons.
cobra:
can't because they didn't give it
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This
cobra:
so
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hurts
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they
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my
cobra:
can't
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head.
cobra:
take it back.
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This sounds
whack_adam:
Yeah,
spinner:
so overly complicated for something so
whack_adam:
Yeah,
spinner:
stupid.
cobra:
And
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Was
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Yep,
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this supposed to
whack_adam:
yeah,
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be
cobra:
and
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but when you, you add this layer of the kid and the murdering and the power passing and obvious, Only nerves like us are actually going to complain about it. but it does. It does make things unnecessarily like. If your reveal isn't cool, it's bad, right and
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in a movie where you also want to have, like Adam, go to jail and then break out of it for reasons that I also don't understand
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Okay,
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do two.
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Act one is going to be done by care. I'm
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okay. Act one.
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On Garry.
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I feel okay. Here we go ready.
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Yep,
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first. things first were cutting the kid narrator. There's too much kid in this movie. When that opening kid started talking, I was like already out and that took literally ten seconds.
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and also his doctor
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so it starts off.
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already already, guys. let's go.
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It starts off with. With Pierce. Fate is something that binds us all a thousand years
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from now, and a thousand years before
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so then he takes
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it and then it's like, So he's clearly a good guy. And then it'd be cool if they showed similar to Billy Bats, and him like being met by the The Fates or whatever, they're fucking called the Wizards of Asgard, The hog wards or whatever,
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yeah, yeah,
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as yours.
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looks at him, he says you deserve you.
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a man of character. You are a man of hope, and the people need a light to guide them out of the the desert storm.
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Yeah,
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Yep.
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when he becomes Juan, he does good. He's not a bad guy. He, He does good and helps the people, shows him building, helping build Candor, which makes it such a great city. Which helps the law For why the city is like so famous.
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he helps build the city and he becomes great and it shows him living as their protector for like five hundred years.
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this great guy, but slowly over time power corrupts. Absolutely. You see
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him seeing these awful things, sees people being bad. he starts punishing with death sentences, and then he slowly slowly loses his power, slowly loses his goodness. whatever, Until someone cares about something happens that really kisses him off, and he massacres the city like all the like, A Lot of people. maybe not like everyone. but you know he does something horrible like killing all the people.
cobra:
If it be super interesting if they manage to do, Because I like that idea if they manage to show like you know, the original King being super evil and doing some ship, and him slowly becoming exactly like the
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guy that he hated.
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yeah, and then like at the end he's like saying similar things to what the original King
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kills all these people in his in his wake. You know, not caring, and they manage to subdue him, So it's like Okay. He has a actual back story That makes sense. They do trap him in the whatever in something,
whack_adam:
Yeah,
spinner:
and he's like
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Attornium.
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they try and torture him to say he, Sam. let's say like they use their magic to try and make him the only way to make him not have powers. For him to say she's M, and go To his normal mode.
cobra:
Well, isn't isn't he the one responsible for killing all the wizards except for Chazam?
spinner:
Yeah,
cobra:
He
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so
cobra:
is
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he kills
cobra:
right.
spinner:
all of them and the last one gets
cobra:
Yeah,
spinner:
him and then he's trying to.
cobra:
the last one can only imprison him, not take all the powers
spinner:
Yeah,
cobra:
away. That's why he's imprisoned.
spinner:
but I like the concept. I think this is the comic. Correct me if I'm wrong, Chris is that
whack_adam:
Men listening.
spinner:
he only can live this long because he's in his casam
whack_adam:
She's
spinner:
mode,
whack_adam:
He's in champion
cobra:
Yeah.
whack_adam:
mote, Correct,
spinner:
So when he says Shazam
cobra:
yeah,
spinner:
in our time, he just like turns to dust right.
whack_adam:
Correct.
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I
whack_adam:
he
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loved
whack_adam:
never
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that
whack_adam:
never.
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I
cobra:
Yeah,
spinner:
Alway tough hat was
whack_adam:
Yep,
spinner:
really cool because it's the opposite of Billy Batson, who's a kid. It's like the oldest guy
cobra:
Yeah,
spinner:
in a body versus the young guy in a body. Of course, they changed the movie, so I would have had him be like tat, Really want to change him back. And he was never would say, no matter what they did to him. So they just locked him up,
whack_adam:
Hm,
spinner:
Then comes to the present and when does act one and I guess Acton probably end when he is re awoken,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Well, the onything. I would add to that Spencer is in Act when you need like. So what is? what is the rest of Like? I don't want you to pick the crown and all that
cobra:
The hook.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
that fucking bullshit.
cobra:
yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
but we just have like tet Adam's story, but we need the hook for modern day teh Adam
cobra:
Yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
to continue us through the acts two and three.
spinner:
So probably will have to be a Mc guffin again.
whack_adam:
Leading to Saba or something?
cobra:
Maybe maybe it could be the crown that was corrupting him slowly
spinner:
No,
cobra:
as
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because
cobra:
well.
spinner:
I want him. No,
cobra:
well,
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No,
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No, that takes
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That takes
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a way
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it
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away.
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bad
cobra:
Yeah,
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guy.
cobra:
you're right, you're right, you're right, you're right.
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It
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Never
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should
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mind.
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be.
whack_adam:
Can I can? I help a little?
cobra:
Yeah,
spinner:
Go for
cobra:
I
whack_adam:
So
cobra:
go.
spinner:
it.
whack_adam:
like teth Adam, Teth Adam, His whole, like I, I love your approach. What like? the angle and trajectory of power corrupting is that in the comics he wanted was like I've got con contact on contact on lock. I should just fucking rule the world, And that
spinner:
Okay,
whack_adam:
was
spinner:
that's
whack_adam:
the.
spinner:
cool, too.
cobra:
M.
whack_adam:
That was the catalyst,
cobra:
yeah.
whack_adam:
or like the wister's like funk. Like at first he was a protector, Ish and ruler. Okay and then now he's off the deep end and so is there a bridge that we could use? Maybe that could tie a little bit of that in
spinner:
I like that
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Real.
spinner:
he wanted to take over the world. That's good.
whack_adam:
M.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
So but how do we get to? Because the other challenge.
cobra:
Yeah, got to present
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
The
spinner:
So
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
thing
cobra:
time.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
you
spinner:
so
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
probably
spinner:
here?
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
can't change is you have to give him a path to similar redemption.
spinner:
Yeah, now there will be. because,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Okay,
spinner:
because he was originally good, that's going to be his, his moral. Because that's the thing. he's not one dimensional bad. He slowly
whack_adam:
And I've
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turned
whack_adam:
got
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bad.
whack_adam:
you for that too, just in case. But
spinner:
Yeah,
whack_adam:
anyways,
spinner:
we, you're going to get that in the end.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
What else you focus
whack_adam:
I have.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
on? Act to?
spinner:
So
whack_adam:
I'm just saying.
cobra:
Yeah,
whack_adam:
I'm just saying I've got you. That's what I'm saying.
spinner:
and then
whack_adam:
So
spinner:
I'll try and go quickly because I don't want to talk forever. I like the idea of he, over time as king, he masked the most incredible treasure collection of all Time. It's like, and it's
cobra:
Oh,
spinner:
like El Dorado
cobra:
okay,
spinner:
in our time. Like, like people are searching for it, So that's why they're looking for. That's why they, and just like in the Mummy, they're like going looking for stuff, but they accidentally awaken Chusan, as opposed to being a crown. But we're gonna ned something to make a bad guy. I guess that's equal in
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Well,
cobra:
Maybe
spinner:
power
cobra:
maybe it could have been a guffin like the crown, but not like the bad guys were looking for this thing that's powerful that he had in his
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Yeah,
cobra:
treasure.
spinner:
In his collection. Yeah, exactly. that's
whack_adam:
Something
spinner:
so
cobra:
Yeah,
whack_adam:
rumored
spinner:
well,
whack_adam:
to be
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The world is like.
whack_adam:
able
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This
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to
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is like
cobra:
Yeah,
spinner:
the d C world. So there is magic and stuff so it could have been maybe
whack_adam:
True.
spinner:
a magic that actually connects to other things, Or you
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Let's
spinner:
know,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
what if you made it. Um, so the wizards? Um, I guess we did was trying
whack_adam:
There's
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
to make
whack_adam:
one
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
those.
whack_adam:
wizard left.
cobra:
Yeah,
whack_adam:
There's one okay here Help. there's one wizard left, and then he's in charge
cobra:
Yeah,
whack_adam:
of like the Rock of Eternity, which is sort of like the, Just like a Green Lantern, The central power battery battery. The rock is like the rock contains, and is the focal
cobra:
Yeah,
whack_adam:
point for all of that power. Maybe maybe Black Adam knows where it is and his Eldorado treasure leads somehow through dimensions and ship to the rock. And maybe there's there's. It's like bread
cobra:
Is
whack_adam:
crumbs
cobra:
it
whack_adam:
of like,
cobra:
that's
whack_adam:
So someone's like.
cobra:
That's
whack_adam:
If
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a
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we
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whack_adam:
can
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get
cobra:
too
whack_adam:
to
cobra:
much,
whack_adam:
it. Okay,
cobra:
too uncharted for me.
whack_adam:
Sure,
cobra:
That's a
whack_adam:
okay,
cobra:
little bit too uncharted for
whack_adam:
okay,
cobra:
me.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
It also requires your villain To You don't have a obvious villain there. I don't know if we're writing Saba off of this, um,
whack_adam:
I'm not saying no to that, but
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
um, I don't
whack_adam:
just trying
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
mind
whack_adam:
to
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
it,
whack_adam:
bring
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Chris.
whack_adam:
things
cobra:
Uh,
whack_adam:
in,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
It's just that I'll see, then it would be very confusing if if you're searching for the Rock of Eternity, if actual Sam does not show up in this movie,
spinner:
So
whack_adam:
But
spinner:
I like this.
whack_adam:
well that's at the end.
spinner:
I don't know enough about other
whack_adam:
I have another thread.
spinner:
Black Adam villains, so I will just say so buck. let's just keep it simple. He has
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
M.
spinner:
the greatest mass of treasure of all time, and in that treasure is the crown,
whack_adam:
Okay.
spinner:
so we'll keep the crown.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
So so then the story of the crown is at this point similar.
spinner:
Yeah, it's it's his greatest treasure.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
We explain way less that they are searching for attorney on blah, blah blah,
spinner:
No attorney,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
But
spinner:
M. Attornam
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
just
whack_adam:
M,
spinner:
just complicates things.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
but the crown, The crown, You know, it's actually, and actor sort of output. There is a crown that can summon that has powers that someone can take to become king of the world.
spinner:
Yeah, there was another king when he was trying to take over the world. He only had one like actual, tough fight, and was against this guy who was using this crown, And when he killed him, he took his
whack_adam:
Hm,
spinner:
crown,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Yeah,
spinner:
and they're
whack_adam:
Hm,
spinner:
like he was the greatest general
cobra:
Oh,
spinner:
of
cobra:
I
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the
cobra:
like
spinner:
time,
cobra:
that.
spinner:
but Black Adam
cobra:
I
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Honestly,
spinner:
was
cobra:
like
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able
cobra:
that.
spinner:
to defeat him.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
that could be actually just Saba E killed a back
spinner:
Yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
in olden times and the crowns left over.
spinner:
Like, like, like salons ring,
cobra:
Yeah,
spinner:
Boom,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Yes,
cobra:
Nice.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
There you
cobra:
nice.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
go.
cobra:
I like that.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Chris.
whack_adam:
And yeah, I'm ready. So
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Hit it.
whack_adam:
Crown and previous Saba is essentially Black Adams, Doctor Savanna, like a human or whatever, magic alight, like magic abilities. A, due to exposure or whatever, So we could still we could. We could either use descendants, or we could use some one who's who's tapped into enough of the Lar, Who wants to go looking for this crown And
cobra:
Yeah, no, no descendant. The whole thing
whack_adam:
I'm
cobra:
of
whack_adam:
fine
cobra:
the
whack_adam:
with
cobra:
guy
whack_adam:
that,
cobra:
being
whack_adam:
too.
cobra:
the descendant
whack_adam:
Yeah,
cobra:
of the king is so dumb.
whack_adam:
yeah,
spinner:
Agreed.
whack_adam:
we. also, so at this point we also, so Black Adam has been imprisoned from Bychazam, And so then maybe we could have another. Doesn't make sense to have two two arcs where power corrupts where there's like archeologists or whatever are looking for are looking for the freaking treasure. No, not well meaning
spinner:
Maybe
whack_adam:
they're greedy.
spinner:
maybe maybe they're
cobra:
Yeah,
whack_adam:
Play off.
cobra:
agreed,
whack_adam:
Play off the sins.
cobra:
greed.
spinner:
maybe the girl. Maybe
cobra:
yeah,
spinner:
it's
cobra:
yeah,
spinner:
like a girl
cobra:
greed.
spinner:
and a guy and the guy is actually not
whack_adam:
Sure,
spinner:
bad. But they're looking for this treasure because it's worth a ton. They're just like, kind
whack_adam:
Okay,
spinner:
of like normal Tom Raider, kind of people. But when he
whack_adam:
Yeah,
spinner:
gets, and they don't believe in magic or any of that ship,
whack_adam:
Sure,
spinner:
And then when he actually touches the crown for the first time, it corrupts him, it brings out his,
whack_adam:
Yeah,
spinner:
and then he becomes, and then that way he's actually too dimensional because he was actually like. No, Just a bad guy.
cobra:
He's being almost controlled by the crown
whack_adam:
Yeah,
cobra:
at that point.
whack_adam:
by the demon, the Sin demons right
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
I
cobra:
Yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
would challenge that, I think those overly
whack_adam:
How?
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
convoluted I think
whack_adam:
How
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
it's
whack_adam:
so
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
fine. Just have an evil person who is evil because they they want to crown, Because fucking Shizam exists in the world, and Super Man exists in the world, and there's all
whack_adam:
So?
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
these
whack_adam:
then
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
other
whack_adam:
go ahead.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
fucking. make an Amanda
cobra:
Oh
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Wallers
spinner:
I
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
look
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was gonna
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for the
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say
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
goddamn
spinner:
Amanda
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
crown
spinner:
Waller sent to sent this person to get it.
cobra:
Yeah,
whack_adam:
There you go. and that brings her back in. Because never get enough of Viola.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
They
whack_adam:
That's
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
send
whack_adam:
great.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
in a suicide quad
spinner:
M.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
with a weird
whack_adam:
Oh
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
girl.
spinner:
Hm,
cobra:
No,
whack_adam:
Lord,
cobra:
they don't No, they don't
whack_adam:
with the
cobra:
No, they don't.
whack_adam:
with the weasel
spinner:
And she
whack_adam:
the weasel,
spinner:
finds it.
whack_adam:
Linda.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
This is my friend Katana,
spinner:
I advise
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
She
whack_adam:
Yeah,
spinner:
you,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
uses
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don't get
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
a
cobra:
Yeah.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
sore.
spinner:
killed by
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
the sexual souls out of here.
spinner:
And
cobra:
Ah,
spinner:
the girl,
whack_adam:
Yeah,
spinner:
the girl archeologist,
cobra:
God,
spinner:
who just breaks it when she finds it. What's
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Yeah,
spinner:
this?
whack_adam:
So here's here's here's the thing and this is the biggest thing I want to chew on The archaeologists. Find the crown dude puts on the crown is changed him, or can still be evil. whatever, And he's now imbued with demon spirits. Okay, The other archaeologist or whatever she's she's also a mother and so in all of thist demons, Crown got that guy and triggers. I'm Goin to stick to it. She sees. she's in another part of the C of this treasure chamber and she's reading this other thing simultaneously. Guy gets crown changes. She reads a thing and unlocks like unlocks Black Adam. Um. he has black. Adam has a knowing Ike. pause. He's sure he's just oriented, but he looks at her and here's the thing with another movie. So I've got layers. one. He looks at her and she reminds him of his his late wife, So he's like Cut off
cobra:
I
whack_adam:
a little
cobra:
think
whack_adam:
bit.
cobra:
that I think that was supposed to have been there already in the movie
spinner:
They?
whack_adam:
Yeah,
spinner:
just,
whack_adam:
and it was.
cobra:
and
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they
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they
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just
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just
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cut
cobra:
didn't
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it out
cobra:
do it.
whack_adam:
it was weird
cobra:
Yeahyeah,
whack_adam:
for me, So like he's like what? But then he's caught up. He's caught up with Saba doing his thing, and the et'set'slet's
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
I,
whack_adam:
have. Let's have black atom on the ropes for a little
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Chris,
whack_adam:
bit,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
can you,
whack_adam:
and then
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
can
whack_adam:
they separate.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
you? Can you give me a? Can you er? this back and descript doctoring? And that's cryptorywriting, because we've
whack_adam:
How
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
so
whack_adam:
is it to
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
far
whack_adam:
rewrite
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
we've chopped off every care that doesn't black Adam and Tabak, literally every single
spinner:
And
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
one.
spinner:
I have a request
whack_adam:
M?
spinner:
not to remove the scene where when he wakes up he kills everybody in that cave because that
whack_adam:
So
spinner:
was
whack_adam:
then
spinner:
dope.
whack_adam:
we need Okay. That's fine.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
M.
whack_adam:
So then they're not alone And thank you for that. It's fine So
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Yeah,
whack_adam:
the archeologists have have a crew. M, Y, don't have to be sucking mercenaries. But maybe maybe there, see this is my concern and I don't need your help.
cobra:
So here's
whack_adam:
Is
cobra:
the
whack_adam:
it
cobra:
thing.
whack_adam:
too much?
cobra:
It's fine. It's fine if their Inter gang, even if that name
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Yes,
cobra:
is stupid. What what I think is stupid is that Inter gang owns the country.
whack_adam:
Okay?
cobra:
That's ridiculous. But if it's the whole mercenary group and that guy, Ishmael is still the leader and he's the one who learned about it and went after it, And like fool, Adriana, who's
whack_adam:
I'm
cobra:
the
whack_adam:
fine
cobra:
mom
whack_adam:
with that.
cobra:
into helping him all of that like you can keep the general idea of them going into the thing together in Bla bla Bla, But
whack_adam:
Okay.
cobra:
then you know he wakes up
whack_adam:
Yeah,
cobra:
and then he sees The. The only problem is if he turns into Saba right now, it changes the entire move.
spinner:
No,
cobra:
That's
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it should
cobra:
the
whack_adam:
M.
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be
cobra:
only
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like
cobra:
problem.
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he gets. He touches it and corrupts him, but he doesn't change right away. He's like
whack_adam:
So he's
cobra:
Yeah,
whack_adam:
chasing
cobra:
it
whack_adam:
it,
cobra:
doesn't
whack_adam:
but he
cobra:
change
whack_adam:
doesn't
spinner:
he's
cobra:
right
whack_adam:
have
cobra:
away.
spinner:
slowly
whack_adam:
Okay. cool
spinner:
like you can keep cutting back to him. The movies. seeing him go through
whack_adam:
Changing
spinner:
like
whack_adam:
him.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Why
whack_adam:
Okay,
spinner:
the fly because it's cooler.
cobra:
Why what?
whack_adam:
Infection could be interesting, because then
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
O.
whack_adam:
it's an anchor towards like he needs full contact in order to change like he's no longer. he's not fully himself any more. He's being drawn to pulled to the crown because he's been infected.
spinner:
That makes sense,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
You need to?
cobra:
I
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
You
cobra:
think?
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need
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It
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
to.
cobra:
makes
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Sorry,
cobra:
more
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
I need to interrupt
cobra:
sense.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
you here. You guys need to speed up. We're at a hundred
whack_adam:
Yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
and twenty twenty three minutes, and we still have
whack_adam:
Okay,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Chris to finish, and the rest of us, So it's good for doing this, but we gotta, we got to pick up the pace and be less like picky.
whack_adam:
Yeah,
cobra:
Yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
What
whack_adam:
I hear you. I'm glad we're work shopping it and helping
spinner:
Bruce
whack_adam:
each other out. I'm trying to figure it out to. I don't want to take so much time,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
We're
whack_adam:
but
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
not? We're not recording. I mean, we have to less picky about someone's ideas and let them kind of run with. It does the whole purpose
whack_adam:
Okay,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
of
whack_adam:
cool
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
letting go
whack_adam:
cool.
cobra:
Yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
facts, but we just have to stick to the overall tenor of
spinner:
Chris,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
of
spinner:
Follow your dream,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
well our dream like it's if you're getting really off script doctoring. I'll steer you back, but
whack_adam:
Okay,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
I think we just have. If we're if we're Maybe this is a conversation right after where we talk about. Maybe we should just know what act we're doing ahead of time and I know where we're going, So it's not so much creative on the spot, Because the creative
whack_adam:
Yeah, yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
on the
whack_adam:
yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
spot is a lot of time and I don't. we're giving ourselves a half a And we're all blowing through
whack_adam:
Yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
it our time a lot, men, and we can give ourselves ten minutes more, maybe, but at some point you're just spending the whole show script docuringand. I don't think that's what we're hoping to achieve. We just want
whack_adam:
Yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
a portion of it to be
whack_adam:
yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
so.
whack_adam:
my biggest anchor because we're already talking about it. The biggest anchor that I want to I want to tie
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Yeah,
whack_adam:
into is essentially black Adam, Black, Adam, redeeming himself because the loss of his wife and son.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Okay, but that is,
whack_adam:
I want to bring that back somehow.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
if you're going to re Act two, then I got nothing in Act three. Right, You're only
whack_adam:
Okay,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
setting up stuff right. Act two is the, This is the thing we're doing and now we're at our lowest point in the story. And then Act three is we were redemption solving the problems.
whack_adam:
Okay, so then I can, I can just veer over into introducing the Justice Society
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Yeah, yeah, yeah,
whack_adam:
Like finish off that that that that treasury scenario,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Sure, yeah, yeah,
whack_adam:
everyone breaks away and then rump, like news
cobra:
Who has the crown?
spinner:
The mom,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Yeah,
whack_adam:
Should still be the mom.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
sure,
cobra:
Yeah, okay,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
yeah,
whack_adam:
Yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
if that's he Wa, You
whack_adam:
Okay,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
want to do if that's fine, but let's just wrap that up and then you do
whack_adam:
got you.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Justice Society, Because yet were we don't have enough time for this. We spent like all of your time just hashing out the five seconds of sucking the guys showing up and the crown and we got.
whack_adam:
Yep.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
we got. We. Otto, let people just roll their feelings.
whack_adam:
Okay.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
All
whack_adam:
I can.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
right.
whack_adam:
I can get type. Great, So we're in the treasury room. Ishmael has been infected and there's a. There's a skirmish. The like the mercenaries are, are, or firing all over which way the fight breaks out, So I want to keep that scene, and like the ensuing scene that goes like outside and all of that wonderful action. but I want I want us to have a break like Black Adam destroys them, and he takes off, and then new spreads and that that give It's an opportunity to bring in Amanda Waller. She can call in the Justice Society and there is that contact and bridge to to Carter Hall, Hawk Man and Dr. Fate, And at this point Adriana has the crown. She's on the run and I think
cobra:
No, No itorneum missile hits
whack_adam:
No, it's just
cobra:
Black
whack_adam:
regular.
cobra:
Adam right.
whack_adam:
It's
cobra:
Okay,
whack_adam:
just
cobra:
good,
whack_adam:
regular
cobra:
good, good.
whack_adam:
artillery, regular ammunition and munitions.
cobra:
Okay,
whack_adam:
Just that, like just that, Because that's enough. we don't need enough of this. We don't need this level up
cobra:
A hundred percent
whack_adam:
in my
cobra:
agree.
whack_adam:
opinion, so I think that that's okay enough for two to wrap any
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Well,
whack_adam:
questions
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
well,
whack_adam:
though,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
I need at the end of act. I need. we need like ship to be sucked right like the act to like Ship should be in peril So like she shouldn't just have the crown, But like whoever is hazing the power of becoming Saba needs to be like.
whack_adam:
But it's not full blown. I don't think anyone's transformed yet into Saba.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Well, we
whack_adam:
I
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
don't
whack_adam:
think
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
have enough
whack_adam:
like,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
time and act three to clean that all up. Right
whack_adam:
okay,
cobra:
Yeah, I know we don't because we don't want to repeat what the movie actually
whack_adam:
Okay,
cobra:
did.
whack_adam:
okay, okay,
spinner:
She, just they take her daughter, dark kid
whack_adam:
Okay,
spinner:
who's not a fucking annoying scape boarding punk from two thousand and one.
whack_adam:
We have your daughter give us
cobra:
Yeah,
whack_adam:
the crown.
spinner:
Yeah,
whack_adam:
So what if
spinner:
and she
whack_adam:
so
spinner:
has to
whack_adam:
like
spinner:
beg
whack_adam:
they flap?
spinner:
Black Adam to help her.
whack_adam:
Sure do we need. I'm fine with this. How do we get from here to? does it become? The Crown Has to go to a location, And when we get there, you have to work with us, Adriana, and then we will free your daughter.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
That works.
whack_adam:
Okay, Okay, because
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
So
whack_adam:
then we,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
one.
whack_adam:
we'll have time traveling and location changes,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
one question
whack_adam:
and so
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
further,
whack_adam:
on.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
then why does she have to work with them? What does she know? What is she helping them do?
whack_adam:
She's the expert she can translate and she's the lower keeper.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Okay?
whack_adam:
The rest of them are not. She's been leading the whole expedition.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
right? So so the evil guy is? he isn't like. he has no
whack_adam:
Maybe
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
knowledge. He's just a mercenary.
whack_adam:
financier or mercenary.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Yeah, great. so we're fucking doing tumbwritear.
whack_adam:
Yep,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Awesome.
whack_adam:
Yep,
spinner:
It's a great.
cobra:
Or our national treasure,
spinner:
a great movie.
cobra:
our national
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
No
cobra:
treasure,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
natural treasure is fun.
cobra:
his chum, Ben, his bean from
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Fuck
cobra:
National
whack_adam:
Let's
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
off.
whack_adam:
get
cobra:
Treasure.
whack_adam:
Shallanban. No, no, no, no, no
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Fuck.
whack_adam:
conduc.
cobra:
Uh,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
that's the white man. Actually, that's very realistic, White man Huninford treasure to take back to England and act like
cobra:
Yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
they didn't steal like
cobra:
yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
I digress.
cobra:
that will be.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Okay,
cobra:
Yeah,
whack_adam:
Who.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
so
cobra:
Go for
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Act three,
cobra:
it, man.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
we have
whack_adam:
Hm,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
the mom, and she is being sucked into helping these guys unlock the power of the Crown. I didn't hate the idea that he had to sort of die to go to hell to unlock the powers. But, but we really haven't set that up in this movie and that's fine, So we just need to find a way to unleash the powers. Now we left it off, Chris. You said that this guy is being infected by the Crown And
whack_adam:
Yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
so it turns out that what will happen is he? when she comes to work with him, he keeps the ground on him at all times, because he doesn't trust anybody, So it's in his room. it's locked in his room. It's always near him. whenever she's working on it. he's always near by. And so that
spinner:
Precious
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
close contact.
spinner:
to him,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Yeah, exactly
spinner:
precious
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
that.
spinner:
crowd,
cobra:
Oh no,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
That
whack_adam:
What
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
close
whack_adam:
happened
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
contact.
whack_adam:
to you Garry?
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
That close
spinner:
The
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
contact
spinner:
curing that crowned The.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
basically makes him go of himself and there's voices and of the five demons to put it on his
whack_adam:
There
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
head
whack_adam:
you go.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
if he wants ultimate power, and you got simultaneous. She's reading the inscription she's learning and then she found the rest inscription. That's like the first person that puts this on La. whatever you know,
whack_adam:
Hm,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
and at the same time she figures this out, he fucking flips over and has to buck. Um.
whack_adam:
Okay, Okay,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
And so Oh, what'll happen from there is? it's similar in nature that you need the whole Justice society. whatever left was ever left over of it and M. Black Adam show up to defeat Saba. Um, and I think we need one other thing because
spinner:
Are
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
it's
spinner:
we going?
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
a little a
spinner:
Can
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
little
spinner:
I jump
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
short.
spinner:
in?
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
sorry,
spinner:
One question, is the Justice Society good to fight Black Adam
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Uh,
spinner:
in this? I think they should.
whack_adam:
M.
spinner:
when they first come on the scene. I
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Yes,
spinner:
think there should be some of them that aren't good guys. They're like kind of bad guys and I think Black Adam should kill one of them.
whack_adam:
Okay,
cobra:
Wait, kill one of the Justice Society.
spinner:
Yeah,
whack_adam:
I don't know.
spinner:
just to make
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
I
spinner:
it
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
don't
spinner:
cooler.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
think there's enough.
whack_adam:
it's
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
I
cobra:
That's
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
don't think there's enough time to explain how someone who was a hero was a villain and deserved to die.
cobra:
Yeah.
spinner:
Maybe he didn't deserve
whack_adam:
It's an interesting
spinner:
to die, but
whack_adam:
idea.
spinner:
he was just kind of a douche.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
If you listen, I like what you're trying to do, Spencer. And if we had more times of flesh we could, But
spinner:
Give this
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
you can't
spinner:
a little
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
kill.
spinner:
edge.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
You can't kill a super hero in this movie and make look at him a sympathetic
cobra:
Yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
character.
cobra:
that's It's too much.
spinner:
He gave you a sympathetic bad guy.
whack_adam:
Maybe
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
No,
whack_adam:
so only okay, What are we doing? Because I could. I can. I can go with it Or what do we do? I don't know what to do.
spinner:
No,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
We're going with
spinner:
forget
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
it. we don't.
spinner:
what I said,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
We don't have enough time. Keep re hashing this. We have to be a little more clear on this overall, but
whack_adam:
Got it?
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
um, it's fine. We'll leave that in so we need one more thing in the third act. Like if she shows up the lease, Saba, we need so box master plan and he needs to like sitting on the throne of contact is fine, But something
whack_adam:
Not
cobra:
Yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
cooler has to happen, then
whack_adam:
there? You go.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
the worst skeletons.
cobra:
And also,
whack_adam:
May I offer?
cobra:
it can't
whack_adam:
Go ahead?
cobra:
be that simple for him
whack_adam:
Yes,
cobra:
to get there like they have to keep him like. A lot of the third act could be the trying to keep him away from the throne.
whack_adam:
Yes, Sacrifice is the number six or seven in order to unlock some ship, And then like, let's like it's a recipe. So sit on the throne
cobra:
Okay,
whack_adam:
and you have to sacrifice. My mind goes back to Conte Barbarian Like there needs to be a sacrifice in order to make the thing happen.
spinner:
You have to sacrifice six super beings and he's going to sacrifice the justice of society And it was his plan all along,
whack_adam:
Okay,
spinner:
And then being there allows it to happen.
cobra:
That's
whack_adam:
You could do that You could, that pure beings of pure heart or whatever,
cobra:
Okay.
whack_adam:
And then
cobra:
That's
whack_adam:
you can
cobra:
better,
whack_adam:
and then like whether it doesn't have to. It can be just a society, people or children
cobra:
Can be a child. Yeah, yeah,
whack_adam:
like it's
cobra:
yeah,
whack_adam:
innocence. So
cobra:
yeah, yeah,
spinner:
Anyone
cobra:
yeah,
spinner:
of pure heart have no power, And that's why Black Adam is needed because he's not pure heart. badges.
whack_adam:
Yeah,
cobra:
Actually, that's good because it's kind of where they
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
All right,
cobra:
were
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Let
cobra:
going with it.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
do do the
spinner:
Finish this shifty movie
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
finish it.
cobra:
Uh,
whack_adam:
Well, our version is still better.
cobra:
uh,
whack_adam:
but anyway,
cobra:
So M. I think instead of an epilogue, I think because we can finish this and be like this story is done, so I would do sort of like a sickle hook, or or like a mid credit scene. That's a Siclokso. Um, I like the tension between Black Adam and Amanda Waller, because she has that control Freak sort of thing that she always does where he's like it has to be my way. And and because they couldn't control him like the justice, the justice of city couldn't really control him. They were just like aligned right, doing the same thing. She comes to him in the same way and says we're not going to put you back in your prison, But you better not step a foot out of conduct. That's I like that part, but when he says there's nobody in this planet Could stop me instead of. Oh, we have an alien, which is kind of lane, and she can be a lot more like, a lot more smug and say, Are you sure right, And then it's Hazemthat comes, And he like Chase, especially played by Zachary Levi. He is like a door key, sort of like he's you know, and probably black Black. Adam wouldn't take him seriously at all, and we could hae. No, don't show the whole fight. Show them start in the fight.
spinner:
Or
cobra:
Yeah
spinner:
but
cobra:
and cut.
spinner:
Shazamlike goes and he's like Hey, how's it going? And like Black Adam's like this.
cobra:
Yeah,
spinner:
You think he can stop me and then Black Adam goes to punch
cobra:
yeah,
spinner:
him and then Am catches his fist, and then he goes,
cobra:
Catches it.
spinner:
looks at him, like with
cobra:
Yeah,
spinner:
like his rock eyes.
whack_adam:
Hm, the people's brow.
cobra:
Yeah, I also like. I like the idea of when he appears he goes. Oh cool. You have a lightning thing on you on your uniform
whack_adam:
Who's
cobra:
too.
whack_adam:
your Taylor?
cobra:
It's amazing
spinner:
Yeah,
cobra:
and
spinner:
I'd be
cobra:
yeah,
spinner:
like.
cobra:
something
spinner:
Oh
cobra:
like
spinner:
the
cobra:
that.
spinner:
black. I like. the black mind comes in white or red or whatever, The
cobra:
Yeah,
spinner:
sun.
cobra:
I was like.
whack_adam:
Hm,
cobra:
Oh, the contrast is so nice
whack_adam:
Yeah,
cobra:
And then Black Adam is like Fuck this and like dive like, like Georgian. Pierre pinches him and he catches it
whack_adam:
And then
cobra:
and it goes. That's not nice and it you know, cuts like, sets up a sequel where you know they're going to be together and at odds with each other. still, but together in the next movie. That's kind of how I think. I think it's much better than putting super men there just for like we have to talk. It's kind of. I don't know. It's bit of a chap shot at that point, so that's what I would
spinner:
And then
cobra:
do.
spinner:
James gun walks of screen and goes cotcotcot. We're not
cobra:
No,
spinner:
keeping
cobra:
No
spinner:
a this.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
You're all
cobra:
fuck
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
fired.
cobra:
all
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Get out.
cobra:
of this.
spinner:
Yeah,
whack_adam:
M.
cobra:
everybody's
spinner:
you're all fired.
cobra:
fired.
whack_adam:
Where's the weasel? Get the weasel? bring the
spinner:
Oh,
whack_adam:
weasel back.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Bring out a weasel and
cobra:
Ah, no.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
arm, fall off
cobra:
it's
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
men
cobra:
gonna be.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
and
cobra:
No.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
let them
whack_adam:
Yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
fight.
cobra:
Yeahthat's, at is going to say it's like no, Okay shalam. Go out arm full off boy. come here.
whack_adam:
Booster
cobra:
You're fighting Black
spinner:
Now this
cobra:
Adam,
spinner:
is
whack_adam:
booster
spinner:
a movie.
whack_adam:
hole. Where is booster?
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
All right, we did it.
cobra:
Condiment King. Where is
whack_adam:
Uh?
spinner:
Yeah,
cobra:
Condiment
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
we did
cobra:
King?
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
it.
whack_adam:
uh,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
We wrote a movie that is comparably incomprehensible as the one we watched. We have improved this to at least uncommon. At least
whack_adam:
At least,
spinner:
At least a non legendary
cobra:
Yeah,
spinner:
comment,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
That's fair. I'll give you that
whack_adam:
Yeah,
cobra:
Yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
a
whack_adam:
yeah,
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
uncommon, common, if you will.
cobra:
Ah,
whack_adam:
M,
cobra:
and commonly
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
Yeah,
cobra:
common.
spencer_was_a_mistake_:
if you have thoughts on our script doctoring, and how we can speed it up and make it more interesting and intelligible. by all means, hit us up on the socials. We have the Twitter still, because whatever it exists for now, at your on cast, we also have an email address Your wrong cast at email dot com, and we even have a website is w w w dourrondcast, dot c A. And we miss you for now. I'm mad.
spinner:
Um, Spencer
cobra:
I'm somebody Luciano, I guess.
spinner:
Body that I used to know
whack_adam:
Yeah, yeah, Yeah.
spinner:
Didn't have to cut me up.