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Welcome to Plans Are Booked, a podcast for every reader, hosted by Molly Galler, Stephanie Blackburn, and Kaitlin Mattison. We're three friends who love to read, swap books, and count down until the film and TV adaptations of our favorites are released. Follow us on Instagram, @plansarebooked, or reach out to us directly at plansarebooked@gmail.com.
Molly Galler (00:01)
Welcome to Plans Are Booked, a podcast for every reader. I'm Molly Geller.
Stephanie (00:06)
Stephanie Blackburn.
Kaitlin (00:06)
And I'm Caitlin Madison, welcome to chapter 31. We are going to be discussing a book called One and a Millennial today by fellow podcaster Kate Kennedy from Be There in Five. Molly is going to catch us up on what she's been up to because she's been traveling the world and we haven't recorded a pod in like
Molly Galler (00:14)
We're back, baby. I'm so excited. I feel like I've been away from this mic for far too long.
Stephanie (00:14)
We are going to be discussing a book called One in a Millennial today by fellow podcaster Kate Kennedy from Be There in Five. Molly is going to catch us up on what she's been up to because she's been traveling the world and we haven't recorded a pod in like two weeks I guess because she's been gone two weeks and Molly kicked us off. We're back maybe. I'm so excited. I feel like I'm going to be waiting for this like for a while.
Kaitlin (00:33)
two weeks I guess because she's been gone two weeks so Molly kick us off.
Molly Galler (00:43)
first I just want to apologize to the listeners for my voice. It's a very pollen filled day in Watertown, Massachusetts today. So you're hearing a bit of congestion thanks to my yellow covered car. but thanks for bearing with me. Yes. I'm back after a two week vacay. I went to Israel for my cousin's wedding and then I went to Amsterdam just to explore. It was my first time there.
Stephanie (00:43)
I just want to apologize to the listeners for my voice. It's a very polite, friendly day in Watertown, Massachusetts today. So you're hearing a bit of congestion. Thanks to my wife, and you know, we're in a car. But thanks for being with me.
Kaitlin (00:44)
I apologize for the noise. It's a very...pawling, unfunny day in Watertown, Massachusetts today. So, you're hearing a little congestion in the face tonight. Yeah, like...
Thanks for being here. Yes, I'm back after a two week vacay. I went to Israel for my cousin's wedding and then I went to Amsterdam just to explore. I was like resting there. I will say I got into vacation to ignore it right quick because when I touched down in Israel it was already over 90 degrees. So it was like being purled.
Stephanie (00:58)
Yes, I'm back after a two week vacay. I went to Israel for my cousin's wedding and then I went to Amsterdam just to explore. I was the first time there. I would say I got into the vacations really quick because when I touched down in Israel it was already over 90 degrees. So it was like being curled into the summer season and I had packed accordingly knowing it was going to be quite hot and sweaty.
Molly Galler (01:10)
I will say I got into the vacation state of mind right quick because when I touched down in Israel, it was already over 90 degrees. So it was like being hurled into the summer season and I had packed accordingly knowing it was going to be quite a hot and sweaty time. And there's something about just like the beach weather that puts you in that like vague frame of mind. It was so great to see my family was.
Kaitlin (01:22)
into the summer season. And I have packed according to the news for the hot and sweaty time. And for some people just like the beach weather that puts you in that like a vague A friend of mine. It was so great to see my family. It was so fun to just be at a huge celebration. And my cousin, and I didn't.
Stephanie (01:28)
And there's something about just like the beach weather that puts you in that like vague AA friend of mine. It was so weird to see my family. It was so fun to just be at a huge celebration and dance to like a beach at my feet and be jaded. And my cousin had babies last year when I was there, so it was really special to meet her. And I did not make a ton of purchases. Well, this is the same name, I love names. her name is Maya.
Molly Galler (01:37)
so fun to just be at a huge celebration and dance until I felt like I needed to have my feet amputated. And my cousin had a baby since the last time I was there, so it was really special to meet her. And I did not make a ton of purchases because... her name is Maya Lilly, her grandmother who...
Kaitlin (01:52)
What is the baby's name? I love names.
Stephanie (01:58)
her grandmother who...
Molly Galler (02:02)
Let me see how I can best explain this. My cousin Tamar is married to a wonderful person named Yair and his mother passed away last year. Her name in Hebrew means Lily. So they decided to name her Maya Lily and Maya, the root is from the word mime, which means water. And we all grew up together at the beach. So she wanted a name that sort of made a nod to that. So actually one of the nights we were on together, they read the
Stephanie (02:02)
Let me see how this explains. My cousin, John, is related to a wonderful person named Jair, and his mother passed away last year. Her name, and he really means Lily. So they decided to name her My Lily, and Maya, who is from the North, and Ma 'am, who is from the water. And we all grew up together with Lily, so she wanted a name that's sort of immediate and know -how to that. So actually, one of the things we wrote altogether, we had the description and the
Kaitlin (02:02)
the reason why we see it as a problem is because in general, it's not true that one person died that year, but it's not the first person died last year.
Molly Galler (02:31)
description and meaning behind the name that they had read during her baby naming. So it's nice that all of us got to hear that. She's four months old and she's so cute. She lets anybody hold her. She has a great disposition. It was just like amazing to get to spend time with her. Very fun. I made precisely one purchase. Actually, that's a lie. I made two purchases. The first one was completely unplanned. My cousin Julia needed.
Stephanie (02:32)
Meaning by the name that they had read during the baby naming, it was nice that all of us got to hear that. She's four months old, she's so cute. She wants anybody to hold her, she has a great disposition. It was just amazing to get to spend time with her. Yay! Very fun. I mean, precisely one purchase. Actually, that's a lot. I mean, the first one was completely unplanned, like syndrome needed. She was at her wedding, she was unhappy with what she had packed, so we went into a
Kaitlin (02:40)
Yay!
Molly Galler (02:58)
She was for the wedding. She was unhappy with what she had packed. So we went into a store and she started trying things on and were the same size. And I was like, Ooh, let me try on what you just tried on. So I just bought a pair of sandals like impromptu. Then we went to one of the big open air markets where they have like the spices and the nuts and whatever. And I bought an obscene amount of tea, hibiscus tea, watermelon tea. And they like to just like scoop these huge portions because they know you're like a dumb American.
Stephanie (03:02)
So I'm just really trying to get it on the same size.
Kaitlin (03:06)
Let me try to finish it out so I just have an example of such a problem. Then, we want some of the big open air microns where they have the spices and the nuts and everything. I've seen a lot of tea, hibiscus tea, watermelon tea, and they like to just scoop these tea and wash it and it's like a dumb affair.
Molly Galler (03:28)
And originally he scooped enough that he was going to charge me what equated to about $350 US dollars. And I was like, sir. it was unbelievable. It was like these huge bags, plastic bags that he was going to vacuum seal. And I was like, I'm sure this is like his shtick. He like does this to everybody. but I took out my little calculator, do the quick conversion and I was like, no, sir.
Kaitlin (03:28)
In the original, this agent had put this on you. What the third agent took about you was the kind of thing that you had. How many people would have to go through these two bags, plastic bags, and you took them out and you said, I'll be asking you to do this because I'm the best at it. I'm the best at it. I'm the best at it. I'm the best at it. I'm the best at it. I'm the best at it. I'm the best at it. I'm the best at it. I'm the best at it. I'm the best at it. I'm the best at it. I'm the best at it. I'm the best at it. I'm the best at it. I'm the best at it. I'm the best at it. I'm the best at it. I'm the best at it. I'm the best at it. I'm the best at it. I'm the best at it. I'm the best at it. I'm the best at it. I'm
Stephanie (03:36)
How much tea would that have been?
Molly Galler (03:57)
that's not going to happen. So I saw these little Tupperware things that he had for some of the more like nuts and stuff. And I said, could we instead do that one for each? So he did the world's giantest eye roll because he was so close to swindling me. And then obviously the price came way down, but I'm looking forward to making all kinds of iced tea over the summer and turning some of that iced tea into popsicles. So the shoes and the tea is the only thing that I came back with.
Kaitlin (03:57)
That's what I saw.
Stephanie (03:58)
I saw these little tower -wearing things that he had for someone who more like Knots and stuff. And I said, can we just undo that one, please? So we did the most geological spiral because he was so close, just wouldn't let me. And then, obviously, the crisis came right down. But...
Kaitlin (04:04)
And this is a dream to do that one dream. So he did the most giant spiral because he was so close to swimming over the beach. And then obviously the price came way down. But I'm looking forward to making more kinds of ice tea over the summer. And some of that ice tea into popsicles. So I'm going to show you some of the teas that I came back with. I did buy for other people chocolate and other things. And then I went to U .S. with my other friend. I...
Stephanie (04:16)
I'm looking forward to making all kinds of ice tea over the summer, and trying to sell that ice tea into popsicles. So, the shoes, and the tea, and everything that I came back with, I did buy for other people. Chocolate, and other things. And then I went to Amsterdam, and I back in the long business in Europe, because I studied abroad in Spain, but I had never been to the Netherlands.
Molly Galler (04:25)
I did buy for other people chocolate and other things. and then I went to Amsterdam and I have been in a lot of places in Europe because I studied abroad in Spain, but I had never been to the Netherlands. I honestly feel Amsterdam is like wildly underrated. I'm surprised that there are more people talking about it the way that people talk about like Lisbon, Portugal, or like these other popular destinations.
Kaitlin (04:34)
I've been in a lot of places in Europe because I studied abroad in Spain, but I had never been to the Netherlands. I've found a few people. Amsterdam is something wildly angry. I'm surprised that there are a lot more people talking about it than there are people talking about it. And the city of Portugal, one of these other popular destinations. The canals were obviously the main attraction in such a cool, different experience. And the people to walk there were there. The canals were quite fun in the canals. But for me, the biggest surprise was how I found the food there.
Stephanie (04:40)
I honestly feel Amsterdam is likely wildly underrated. I'm surprised that there aren't any more people talking about it the way that people talk about it. Well, it's been cultural in these other popular destinations. The canals are obviously the main attraction and such a cool, different experience. There's people to walk around, there are hotels right under the canals.
Molly Galler (04:52)
The canals are obviously the main attraction and such a cool, different experience being able to walk around there and our hotel was right on one of the canals. But for me, the biggest surprise was how epic the food was. From street food to like five -star restaurant food, I actually went for the first time ever to a Michelin star restaurant during this trip, which I just, I don't know, I felt like I was on an episode of Chef's Table. Like it just felt so fancy and amazing.
Stephanie (05:01)
But for me, the biggest surprise was how epic the food was. From street food to like five star restaurant food. I actually went for the first time, I went to the Michelin star restaurant during this trip, which I just, I don't know, I felt like it was on the next to the chef's table, but it just felt so fancy and amazing. And we went to this other restaurant, De Kast, and it's in a former Korean house. They were home to a lot of stuff.
Kaitlin (05:04)
from street food to five -star restaurant food. I actually, for the first time ever, transitioned to a restaurant here in Strip, which I just, I don't know, I probably don't seem like a sort of chef's deal. Like, it just felt so fancy and amazing. And we went to this place called the Restaurant Des Cosses, and it's in a former greenhouse. They grow all the stuff there, and then everything else comes from their buy -in farms and producers. Every sniffer, every man -bun, every grass -taker, every pig, so we actually
Molly Galler (05:18)
And we went to this place called the Restaurant Des Cas and it's in a former greenhouse. They grow a lot of stuff there and then everything else sort of comes from nearby farms and producers. Every server has every menu item memorized. It reminded me for those who have watched The Bear, it reminded me of the episode in season two where Cousin does his stage at the fancy restaurant. Yes, yes. And they just like know everything about everything and they...
Stephanie (05:25)
I just watched it. Yes, yes. And they just know everything about everything. They play stuff on the plate with tweezers and all those things. So this is cool for anyone who might be planning to go there. Definitely make a reservation.
Kaitlin (05:34)
Forks, I just watched it.
Molly Galler (05:47)
place stuff on the plate with tweezers and like all those things. So this is cool for anyone who might be planning a trip there, definitely make a reservation there. We went for lunch. We had four courses plus a full bottle of wine, $95 per person, US dollars. I was like, what is going on? And you don't tip there either. I couldn't get over it. But we also had the street french fries and the stroopwafels and all the things that people say to have.
Stephanie (05:55)
We have four horses plus four male.
$95 per person. You asked for it. I was like, why? Just go in. You don't have to get there either. I couldn't get more. But we also had this pretty centralized and street walk -ins and all the people said to have. And I went to the Moe Museum, which is a lot of great places, and I went to the Mangone Museum. It was just an awesome time, and I felt like it was a bit rushed because I only had like two and a half days after I went to the Indian Museum. So now I feel like wherever I travel, I stay in Europe or I go back to Israel.
Kaitlin (06:02)
U .S.
But we also had the street friend drive and the street autism that people decided to have. And I went to the Mocha Museum, which is a library museum, I went to the Mingo Museum. It was just an awesome time and I felt like it was a bit rushed because I needed like two and a half days, I can take days of this. So now I feel like wherever I go, I can stand here, I can go back to the school and look into that stuff and be like,
Molly Galler (06:12)
And I went to the Moko Museum, which is the Modern Art Museum. I went to the Van Gogh Museum. It was just an awesome time. And I felt like it was a bit rushed because I only had like two and a half days after my eight days in Israel. So now I feel like wherever I travel next in Europe, or if I go back to Israel for more family time, that's definitely going to be like a stop along the way. It just feels like I need more time. There's more to see and do, more to eat. I also learned from our canal.
Stephanie (06:30)
family time. That's definitely gonna be like a stop at all. It just wasn't gonna be more time. There was more to stand do and more to eat. I also learned from our kind of all tour guide that he said the best day of the year is the Pride Parade. It happens in August and the whole water is starting to flow. It's like it floats and floats and
Kaitlin (06:33)
It just goes like a week or two. I see a new one I eat. I also learned from our panel tour guide that he said the best day of the year is the Pride Parade. It happens in August. And the whole water radius are taken over by people on boats and floats. And I know many people know about King's Day there, which is also kind of like an epic celebration. But he said this is even better than that. And he said you can come and see it.
Molly Galler (06:42)
tour guide that he said the best day of the year there is the Pride Parade. It happens in August and the whole waterways are taken over by people on boats and floats and I know many people know about King's Day there which is also kind of like an epic celebration but he said this is even better than that and he said you can come into a lip season which is like April May he said but if you really want to experience like the best best of Amsterdam you should come for pride so.
Stephanie (06:56)
I know we have a kids day which is also kind of like an African celebration but he said this is even better than that and he said you can come into a facility just like April and April said but if you really want to experience the best, the best of your English again you should come for a pride so that was just like a note that I talked about into my brain. So I went to Amsterdam in 2017 and I'm surprised you didn't mention this but I love the architecture there. I really like Dutch buildings.
Kaitlin (07:03)
So I went to Amsterdam in 2017. And I'm surprised you didn't mention this, but I love the architecture there. I really like Dutch buildings. And I also loved like sitting outside at bars or cafes and seeing buckets of
Molly Galler (07:10)
That was just like a little note that I tucked away into my brain.
I'm surprised you didn't look at this, but I love it.
architecture there. I really like Dutch buildings. And I also love like sitting outside at bars and cafes and seeing buckets of children with attached onto bikes. And also the bike culture like when you get on the ferries like how organized it is and everybody just rolls their bikes on and there aren't really a lot of cars. You just kind of feel like you're in some kind of weird oasis or you're like, everybody's like being green.
Stephanie (07:26)
And I also love sitting outside at bars or cafes and seeing buckets of children attached to the front of bikes. And also the bike culture, like when you get on the ferries, how organized it is, and everybody just rolls their bikes on, and there aren't really a lot of cars. You just kind of feel like you're in some kind of weird oasis where you're like, everybody's being green and good to the environment, and there's tulips everywhere and art everywhere.
Kaitlin (07:33)
of children attached to the front of bikes. And also the bike culture, when you get on the ferries, how organized it is and everybody just rolls their bikes on and there aren't really a lot of cars. You just kind of feel like you're in some kind of weird oasis where you're like, everybody's being green and good to the environment and there's tulips everywhere and art everywhere. And this is where Anne Frank was safe for years and years. It's like...
Molly Galler (07:53)
and go to the environment and there's tulips everywhere and art everywhere. This is like where it can't fight, it's like safe for years and years. It just feels like...
Stephanie (07:56)
This is like where Anne Frank was like safe for years and years. Like it just feels like you are on another planet a little bit. But in a really healthy way. Thank you. That's a huge RBC experience. Those were really good.
Kaitlin (08:02)
It just feels like you are on another planet a little bit, but in a really lovely way.
Molly Galler (08:07)
I can't believe I didn't mention the bikes. Shame on me. That's like a huge part of the city experience. Those who don't be in real life know I don't have an athletic bone in my body. So I didn't ride a bike while I was there, but it was extremely cool to see the way people use it to commute or to visit friends or to tow it around their kids. Nobody wears helmets, which was shocking to me. And I actually asked the canal tour guide about it. He was like, honestly, the bikes have the right of way everywhere.
Kaitlin (08:14)
Thank you.
Nobody in this conference would have shopped and actually asked the panel to our party about it. Because I honestly, the police have been very late everywhere.
Molly Galler (08:33)
So it's not the same as in the U S where they're like fighting for space on the road with cars, the bikes reign supreme here. And so there's less of a safety concern, which was kind of interesting. He also told us every year that the city fishes out 15 ,000 bikes from the bottom of the canal. Because of people who don't lock them up properly or whatever the case may be. but to Caitlin's point about the architecture and the feeling that you have while you're there, I remember thinking when we first arrived that it reminded me.
Stephanie (08:33)
So, it's not the same as the US where they're fighting for space on the open cars. The bikes range are greater than some of these less of the same, so it's kind of interesting. He also told us earlier that the city fished out 15 ,000 bodies from the United States. This is more than what we thought. But I'm going to say, education is more than architecture.
Kaitlin (08:33)
So it's not the same as in the US where they're fighting for space on the cars. The bikes range are premiered and so there's less of a safety concern which is kind of interesting. He also told us every year that the city fishes out 15 ,000 bikes from the bottom of the canals. Doesn't mean we don't want everything or whatever the case may be. But to get this point about the architecture and the feeling that you have in your island, I think, when we first arrived, that it would be a bit of a
Stephanie (09:00)
will be press -priced. There will be a better list of other things that will be released. Like I just, I just, I'm just gonna have to go through this. It's just, it's so much fun. And it's a huge group, which I would love to go through. So you can certainly do it on your way, just in the right place. Like I was thinking, the game rest, it was fun to go by. It's just, it's one of those real, cool, cool things that you can get to just around anywhere.
Molly Galler (09:03)
of Bell's town at the beginning of Beauty and the Beast. Like I just wanted to sing like, little town, it's a quiet village. It's just like, it's so charming. And it's a huge airport. People travel from all over the world through there. So you could certainly do it on your way to somewhere else. Like when I was leaving, the gate next to me was flying to Mumbai. It's just, it's one of those really, really global airports where you can get to just about anywhere.
Kaitlin (09:03)
Bells tell me that you can even be the best. Like I just, I'm just like, the little town. It's a good idea. It just, it's so charming. And it's a huge area where people travel from all over the world through there. So you could certainly do it on your way to somewhere else that you can even say to you. The gate next to you is one to no -one but it's just, it's one of those really, really, really, really good airports where you can get it just about anywhere. So if you're thinking about it, if you're planning your trip this year and you say hi,
Stephanie (09:28)
So if you're thinking about the different planning, you can see that I'm not directly going to add it on. I also had an amazing experience finding a budget for which I used to be a free advertising publisher because I was so lonely. I flew to Luke, that's what I said, and my advertising agency is, I was like, I'm saying, I flew to the Caribbean for the facility, but this was a great experience.
Molly Galler (09:29)
So if you've been thinking about it, if you're planning a Europe trip this year or next, I highly highly recommend you add it on. I also had an amazing experience flying home on JetBlue, which I'm just going to give them some free advertising slash airtime because I was so blown away by it. I've flown JetBlue countless times in my advertising agency days. I was a mosaic member. I flew constantly. I've flown to the Caribbean with them a bazillion times, but this was a brand new plane.
Kaitlin (09:33)
I would have the recognition added on. I also had an amazing experience finding a gentle, which I purposely didn't get them so free advertising for Cherokee because I was so bold with it. I flew into blue castles times. In my advertising agency days, I was a music member. I flew across the room. I flew into the premium within the facility. But.
This was a brand new plan. Ever since we felt the first class age, I couldn't get over it. The TV screens were huge. When you sat down, you could customize your meal before they delivered it to you. They're now partnering with Gag, the food chain. What used to be called, again, used to be called the other time when I worked downtown, the food is awesome. They gave out individual ice creams every time I turned the light. And then several hours later, the card starts coming down behind me. I was like, why is that so not such a familiar sound?
Molly Galler (09:57)
Every single seat felt like a first -class seat. I couldn't get over it. The TV screens were huge. When you sat down, you could customize your meal before they delivered it to you. They're now partnering with DIG, D -I -G, the food chain, which used to be called dig in. I used to go to it all the time when I worked downtown. The food is awesome. They gave everybody individual ice creams at one point during the flight. And then several hours later, the cart starts coming down the aisle again. I'm like, what is that smell? It's such a familiar smell.
Stephanie (09:57)
Ever since I felt it first last season, I couldn't get over it. It was really huge. When you sat down with the customers, you're like, they just heard it too. They're now learning how to dig, dig, dig, and food, change, which is what we call, again, this photocopy, and we're going down to food is awesome. They get food, you want these creams, and we're going to get food. And then the cell phone was there, the car's phone's coming down.
And I was like, Jesus, it's not even, Jesus, it's not even. What is going on? And this was my first film. And then I was like, it's not even. So it was spectacular. We did this flash, amazing. I was just standing there, I was going, I was just going. Yeah. And then I was like, I'm going to the same movie I was in. And I was like, no, no. But I was just going to the movie. I was just going to the movie.
Kaitlin (10:25)
And I heard the screamer going, cheese pizza? Cheese pizza? What is going on? They just went off in there. And then ice cream, and then pizza. It was spectacular. They gave us these plush, amazing, like, fabulous, like, so much that we were hungry. And they gave us all these massive tags on them that say, we need meat on the plate. And that's what I'll put up in the video before the end.
Molly Galler (10:25)
and I hear the steward going, cheese pizza anyone? Cheese pizza? I'm like, what is going on? They served like a full meal, then ice cream, then pizza. It was spectacular. They gave everybody these plush, amazing blankets. Stephanie and I have stolen blankets off of JetBlue before, and they now have orange massive tags on them that say, leave me on the plane. And I was like, clearly we're not the only people who did that.
Stephanie (10:50)
Yeah.
Kaitlin (10:50)
I so I have a question for you, Molly, as if probably our listeners don't know this about me unless like you're one of my besties. But I'm like a huge Sanrio Hello Kitty person. And one of the most devastating things that happened to me while I was in the Netherlands Netherlands is that I found out about Miffy. Do you guys know Miffy? OK, listeners, you're going to have to look it up, but I will show you Miffy in a moment.
Molly Galler (10:55)
No.
Stephanie (11:20)
and she is a little bunny. and she came to fruition as like a character in books and like a stuffed animal plush kind of way in 1954. And basically Sanrio got accused in 1974 of working off Miffy to create Hello Kitty. And I was like, absolutely devastated when I found this out. But Miffy's like a lot of places in.
Kaitlin (11:20)
And she is a little bunny. And she came to fruition as like a character in books and like a stuffed animal plush kind of way in 1954. And basically, Sanrio got accused in 1974 of ripping off Miffy to create Hello Kitty. And I was like, absolutely devastated when I found this out. But Miffy's like a lot of places in
Molly Galler (11:24)
into fruition of like, character in books, like a stuck animal, much like, in 1934. And basically, Sanrio got accused in 1974 of ripping off Miffy to create Hell of a Committee, and I was like, absolutely devastated when I found this out. But Miffy's like, a lot of places in Amsterdam.
Kaitlin (11:50)
Amsterdam and like in the airport and like all over the place and she's this like cute little rabbit. I will say Hello Kitty is definitely cuter, but I was like very devastated to find out that they like might have modeled Hello Kitty after her because similar to Hello Kitty, Miffy also doesn't have a mouth. She just has a nose and eyes and it's like a very like basic rendering drawing of an animal.
Molly Galler (11:51)
and like in the airport and like all over the place and she's just like cute and all around it. I will say that Little Kitty is better on the computer. But I was like very devastated to find out that they like might have modeled Little Kitty after her because similar to how Kitty 50 also doesn't have a mouth she just has a nose and eyes and it's like a very basic rendering of how you would be able to so anyways I found that funny.
Stephanie (12:15)
rendering, and walking into the area. So I had to leave the video. I was just going to stay for a little bit longer. And I'm going to come back and do this because I saw that I had a career. I was thinking, I'm just going to do this right now. And I was like, how do you do this? And I was like, where? And I was like, I'm going to do this off of here. And then I was like, well, I'm going to do this here. And I'm going to do this out of here. And I saw it on the other end. I saw it right in front of me. I was like, I'm going to do this.
Kaitlin (12:18)
So anyways, I found out about Miffy while I was there and I was like really bummed.
Molly Galler (12:21)
I'm actually really glad you brought this up because I saw that white rabbit everywhere and I was like, maybe they're just really into springtime. Like I didn't understand where it was coming from. And I saw her in the Van Gogh Museum gift shop wearing different Van Gogh -ish outfits. I saw her at the airport. I saw her in like what they call the Dutch Discoveries. It's like the duty free shop. And I was like, what is with this stuffed bunny? And I thought maybe I just like missed it.
Kaitlin (12:29)
And in Dutch her name is spelled
Stephanie (12:43)
I was like, what is this stuff? What are you talking about? I was like, I missed it. I was like, I'm sorry. I missed it. I was like, I missed it. I was like, I'm sorry. I missed it. I was like, I'm sorry. I missed it. I was like, I'm sorry. I missed it. I was like, I'm sorry. I missed it. I was like, I'm sorry. I missed it. I was like, I'm sorry. I missed it. I was like, I'm sorry. I missed it. I was like, I'm sorry. I missed it. I was like, I'm sorry. I missed it. I was like, I'm sorry. I missed it. I was like, I'm sorry. I missed it. I was like, I'm sorry. I missed it. I was like, I'm sorry. I missed it. I was like, I'm sorry. I missed it. I was like, I'm sorry. I missed it. I
Molly Galler (12:49)
at one of the museums or that there was some kind of a legend of this rabbit. I just, I didn't know. So thank you for telling me.
Kaitlin (12:59)
Dutch is fun. N -I -J -N -T -J -E, which is like a shortening of the word Konigente, which means little rabbit. I probably totally butchered that. If you've ever heard anybody speak Dutch or Afrikaans, which is similar, I don't even know how the sounds come out of their mouth sometimes, but she's known in English as Miffy.
Molly Galler (12:59)
N -I -J -N -T -J -E which is like a shortening of the word homogenetogen, which means rabbit. I probably totally butchered that. If you ever have been able to speak Dutch or Afrikaans, which is similar, I know you can help out with sounds coming out of the house sometimes.
Stephanie (13:11)
I have a beautiful, pushy, happy, and very different side of me than before after one, which is similar. I don't know if it sounds like my own analysis, but she's an old, and she's much more fit than me. And she has like TV shows, and there's a picture. She's like padded in there, but that overrides. Anyways, I've known her since I got out of college. Well, I hope you tell me.
Molly Galler (13:21)
but she's known in English as something and she like has had TV shows and there's a she's like patented there but you have to know anyways that's my little secret about that love it i love it tell me about what you guys were up to while i was away
Kaitlin (13:24)
And she like has had TV shows and there's a move. She's like Paddington Bear, but the Netherlands. Anyways, that's my little tidbit about that.
Would you like to go stuff?
Stephanie (13:38)
Sure. So there was a squirrel loose in the house. And if you know me, you know I am terrified of dark water, basements and small rodents. And my dad was out of the country for two weeks. So it was on me to get it out of the house and patch it up. So luckily my sister was off that day.
Kaitlin (13:43)
So there was a squirrel loose in the house and to funeral me you know I am terrified of dark water, basements, and small rooms. And my daughter was out of the country for two weeks so it was on me to get it out of the house and patched up. So luckily my sister was off that day. And she's one of my scariest fighters so I knew that I was in good hands. So we went to the house, found it, there's a...
Molly Galler (13:51)
basements and small rooms and my dad was out of the country for two weeks so it was on me to get it out of the house and patched up so luckily my sister was home that day and she's on a service flight so I knew that I was in her hands so we went to the house found it there's a
Stephanie (14:05)
And she's only scared of spiders. So I knew that I was in good hands. So we went to the house, found it. There's a, my sister says it's a horrible video, but I think it's a hysterical video of the whole conundrum on my Instagram, if you look. We found the squirrel. We managed to get it out the window. I managed to patch the wall. I don't even know why it came in or why it chose to come in on the ground level and then scale to the...
Molly Galler (14:12)
My sister says it's a horrible video. I think it's a historical video of the whole conundrum on my Instagram, if you look. We found this coral. We managed to get it out window. I managed to attach the wall. I don't know why it came in or why it chose to come in. We have nothing to do with it. And then we sealed the ceiling for it to just be clear on the outside.
Kaitlin (14:12)
My sister says it's a horrible video, but I think it's a hysterical video of a whole conundrum on my Instagram. it sounds great. We didn't get it out of the window. I mean, I had to draw a lot of hair and a lot of hair. What chose to come in on the ground level and then scale to the ceiling for a drink here in the house. But, you know, it was a lot of fun. Thank you.
Stephanie (14:34)
ceiling before entering the interior of the house, but you know, I don't know why squirrels work the way they do.
Molly Galler (14:39)
Wait, also tell the people how you found out that it was inside the house.
Kaitlin (14:41)
We also have a good one that we have. our board member wants a screenshot of Helen's group meeting at her house. She said, we think there's a blind car in the house. That's a cool one. That's a good one. I'm just going to go ahead and run through the drawing as it works. So we're as surprised as we are in the house.
Stephanie (14:45)
our realtor texted a screenshot of another realtor who had gone at 8 a to do a showing to say, we think there's a flying squirrel in the house. And I was like, cool, cool. That sounds really awesome. I just assumed that it would have come in through the plumber leaving the door wide open as he works. Surprise, surprise, he hadn't been at the house. So good thing I didn't accuse him like I was planning on.
Molly Galler (14:48)
Thanks for watching!
Kaitlin (15:10)
But they didn't make this out of the plan. Also, Chris, as we're still having to edit this report, he makes me happy when I see the plan. OK. Yeah. Yeah. He's not going to be able to sleep at this time of the year because he's not going to be able to do his job. The side of the afternoon, he's going to be sleeping at the same time as I do, but I'm going to pull over to the hospital. How? Super -fast. Right. So I'm going to go to bed and then I'm going to sleep.
Stephanie (15:14)
Also, surprise surprise, the plumber still hasn't finished. We're now like eight weeks behind when he should have finished.
Molly Galler (15:17)
Okay, I just need everyone to know Caitlin and I are not slandering this plumber yet because we're waiting for him to finish the job The second that he actually completes what he has owed Stephanie and her dad for like over two months now I will be using my superb writing skills to put like the meanest Reviews imaginable every place that is open to me on the internet
Kaitlin (15:40)
So I have already looked this person's business up obviously and he has great reviews but all of the reviews that he has that are good are because he shows up for emergencies. So like people will be like my toilet is flooding my house and so -and -so showed up like
Stephanie (15:43)
Yeah, his van apparently broke down for the second time in two months. That was his latest excuse.
Molly Galler (15:53)
his personal business up, obviously. And he has great views, but all of his poor views that he has to put are because he shows his poor opportunities. So when people look at my work, it's one of the most common thoughts, and so it's so shown up, like, you know, really.
Stephanie (15:53)
business up, obviously. And he has great views. But all the views that he has that are good are because he shows them for emergencies. So when people...
Kaitlin (16:09)
you know, within an hour or whatever. And so he clearly prioritizes the money, like going to these houses and making the money. And Steph and his dad very kind and her dad very kindly, like trusted him because he's done other houses. And so he's had the money and is just like, I'm going to take my sweet time and take all these other effing jobs and just totally screw these people over that are trying to sell this house. I'm livid about it.
Molly Galler (16:12)
He clearly prioritizes some of the money to go out and make the money. And after he's done three times, and after he's done three times, like, trusting him to go to other houses, and so he's having one, because he's like, I'm gonna spend time with all these other fashion shops, and just totally split the people over that are trying to sell his house. I'm gonna get out of it. And gets more and more people to recognize him as he has a problem.
Stephanie (16:12)
He clearly prioritizes the money to go into these houses and make the money. And that's what his dad's very kind to him. His dad's very kind to him, like trusting him to other houses. And so he's had the luck to be able to play a hundred times to be time -saving with all these other FA dogs and just all these crazy people at home that are trying to sell this house. I'm really about it. And guess who won't talk to me about the steps that we have to take.
Kaitlin (16:38)
It gets me worked up every single time Steph says that he hasn't come or hasn't done what it is that he's supposed to do. He makes excuses left and right. It's an absolute joke. He's despicable as a business person. Could be a really nice human in his real life, business -wise, despite him.
Stephanie (16:41)
I'm not going to have to tell him what he's supposed to do. It increases left and right. It's an absolute joke. He's despicable as a business person. It could be a bad estimate. Business wise, despising. I also want to say that I was on TV because of Julie. The situation was really terrible when we were together. And Julie used to work at the Attorney General's office when she was in college. And we're together.
Molly Galler (16:42)
I also want to say that I was updating my cousin Julia about this situation while we were abroad together.
And Julia used to work at the attorney general's office when she was in college at Northeastern. And one of her jobs was to work on consumer protection related issues. So if a business was scamming somebody or not following through on whatever they'd been paid to do. And she said, when Stephanie is ready, you let me know. And we are going to report this to the AG. And I'm going to make sure that it gets escalated every single which way it can. And I was like, I didn't even think of pulling that lever.
Stephanie (17:10)
Julia, if you're listening, I love you.
the other news is that we got an offer and then a week later they got cold feet and backed out. So, I haven't been baking, which is usually my like stress thing. Instead, I've been watching a lot of farrier videos, which if you're not a horse girl, TM, then you don't know that that is a profession that, is sort of like a nail technician. Yep. takes off the old horseshoes, basically trims down the hooves.
Kaitlin (17:38)
So I have a huge, huge, huge, trust in you. So I hope you enjoy it. Thank you.
Molly Galler (17:57)
Yeah. Takes off for a bunch of years, switches on and off, builds, you know, a few bunches of themselves. And I think that's what I love about my job. I work for Daniel and I work for all the other doctors and I love to have friends that work on my team. There was a film called, I just put this aside, I went to the psychologist's home, and there was all there was.
Kaitlin (17:57)
Yeah. Takes off. It's very soothing. And I don't know like what happened with my algorithm that Tik Tok started feeding me all these videos because I am not a horse girl. And I love Steph, but I make fun of horse girls on a. There was a girl that I, I just have to, this isn't a side. I went to a very small middle school in a very small town and there was a girl who was.
Stephanie (18:04)
builds, you know, beautiful new horseshoes, installs them. It is.
Yeah.
Kaitlin (18:27)
pretty out there. She was like pretty bizarre. Looking back on it, I think she was probably on the spectrum, but like none of us really knew what that was. And she would just like blurt out stuff all the time and was like super awkward and also had terrible skin. Like she just didn't have anything really going for her.
Molly Galler (18:45)
Okay, but I applaud her on the pun.
Kaitlin (18:45)
And her quote in our yearbook, I will never forget this, was something along the lines of like, everyone should love horse people. They're such stable people. And I will never forget it. And that's from like 1998, 1999 that I'm calling that back right now.
Stephanie (18:45)
I think that's a cool thing. I love how it's connected. It's like everyone should love the worst people. They're just like the same old people.
That's a great fun. Well, as a quick aside there, if you are into calming farrier videos, there is a guy out of the UK who is tattooed at the wazoo. He's always got bear shirt sleeves. Yeah, very. It's.
Kaitlin (19:05)
Right, but she wasn't a stable person. So that was like, she kind of like played a joke that I don't think she meant to do on herself. And we all were like, God.
Molly Galler (19:10)
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And apparently attractive. You're like downplaying that part.
Kaitlin (19:28)
I've seen them.
Stephanie (19:32)
It's calming, but it's also just like lovely. So go look for it. Yeah, for sure.
Kaitlin (19:36)
I think that that's maybe a future character in one of your books. Yeah, okay. I just want to make well also you have to catch people up on like you're actually like getting to like the query part of things.
Stephanie (19:49)
I wrote a really poop level version first draft, but I needed to get it out. Just like as like, let's just attempt this. I didn't read the email you sent with.
Molly Galler (19:49)
Yes.
I totally disagree.
Kaitlin (19:57)
inaccurate.
Molly Galler (20:04)
Listen, they're called first drafts for a reason. Everybody has that same feeling about something important. I always feel that way about updating my resume. We're like, good Lord, this is going to be bad. You just, as you said, have to like purge it. So you have something to mold and shape. Steph has been listening to these podcasts where agents will like live review query letters and she sent me a few so I could better understand how it works.
Stephanie (20:20)
So you have to do it together.
timeout it's called the shit no one tells you about writing and you should listen if you're a aspiring writer.
Molly Galler (20:35)
It's really good. I found it fascinating, even though I don't have a query letter to write. So I had all of that info in my brain when I was reading your first draft. I think you nailed the structure in terms of what needs to be included, how you made it clear why it's a dual point of view story and why there needs to be both of those voices separately. And I loved the tidbit you included about yourself.
Kaitlin (20:39)
So I had all of that in a solid framework as we hear in the first draft. I think they all need to structure in terms of what needs to be included. I agree.
I need it clear on my head to do both of my different stories and my different student -level experiences separately. And I'd love to hear it from you about yourself. I think that's important to know who you are as a person, who you do outside of credit. And you'll see in a little bit.
Molly Galler (21:02)
I think that's important for them to know who you are as a person and what you do outside of writing. And you'll see when you open the Google Doc. I also wrote a version under your version if I was going to be the one to write it about this book. So you'll see what you think about my attempt.
Stephanie (21:06)
and you'll see what happens.
Kaitlin (21:11)
I also wrote a special under -detention. We obviously didn't want to write about this one, so you'll see what you felt about the attempt. I'm sure it's fantastic because you haven't met, at least with our viewers, three times though, of any of the premieres that were sent for the time of the time to a finance or a credit unit. Yeah.
Stephanie (21:15)
Mm -hmm.
I'm sure it's fantastic because you have a way, at least with our blurbs for each episode, of being able to whittle down what we have spent 47 minutes talking about to like the finer points where I would just be rambling on forever about it, you know?
Molly Galler (21:32)
If you're listening to this podcast for the very first time ever right now, I work in public relations, which could be summarized as synthesizing someone's business down into one paragraph. That's like essentially what my job is to distill what a company does into an email sized version for a reporter to be interested in talking about it. So in this instance,
Kaitlin (21:40)
I work with the community service, as well as the city of San Francisco, down at the upper. That's like the essential to just know what the message is, you know, as we're for our community service, that is the path that we're taking. So in this, is what we want to do. Is what I think is what we have to do. And also, I have a place to say that I have an idea of what I'm doing.
Stephanie (21:56)
So in this.
Molly Galler (21:59)
One, I loved the story and I was like, what would get somebody's attention? But also I have a very specific way that I think about what the nugget is of that story. And I'll be curious what you think when you have a chance to read it, but I'm excited that we're at this stage of the process because I feel like this is the point where it goes from a thing that's been living in your head, a thing that we have read and shared feedback and it becomes something that now is like out in the world for potential acquisition, which is awesome.
Stephanie (22:08)
Yeah, that is exciting. I think the problem for me is that at this point it has been in my head for...
Molly Galler (22:33)
I've been doing this for six, seven years, so I've developed such a problem in my streets. I have to do it after eight, every single word of support, every single platform of support, it needs to be looked at what is truly important, just for the agent.
Kaitlin (22:33)
Six of you have gone through such trouble in standing for so many years. I can't figure out, to me, every single support, every single plot, every single support, it seems to be what is truly important, just for the agents to get on board and have such trouble figuring out what place they're having to go to to track someone through the story. Because I know how much you've been through. Also, beautiful shoes.
Stephanie (22:33)
six, seven years. And so I have such trouble seeing the forest for the trees. I can't figure out like to me, every single word is important. Every single plot point is important. But like, it needs to be whittled down to what is truly important just for the agent to get on board. And I have such trouble figuring out what are the things that are actually going to attract someone to this story. Because I just want them to read the whole thing.
Molly Galler (22:56)
Also, people should know as part of the submission process, usually the agents have like a specific number of pages or like a word count that they want to see with your first submission. So it's almost like a cover letter and then your resume, right? You have to like whet their appetite and then you give them a little bit something more. So my hope is that not only does the query letter make them go like, interesting, but also then they read the first however many pages that you're going to share and then I'll.
That'll make it so that the more that you wish you could include will start to come through.
Stephanie (23:27)
I didn't do this purposefully, obviously, because I was not thinking about the query when I started writing. But for the agents, so usually it's either five or 10 pages. And if their submission is 10 pages, then they're going to get a chapter from each of the perspectives, because somehow I managed to write basically five pages of each. So hopefully, hopefully someone loves it when it's time.
Kaitlin (23:31)
I didn't do it closely after, because I was not able to start it properly, but for the engagement. So usually it's there are five to ten pages, and it's first, then it's the next, and then it's the next one to get the capture from each of the perspectives, because sometimes you destroy basically five pages of each. So hopefully, you'll be able to do this kind of thing this time. If you're listening to this, you'll be able to do it in a way that's basically the first time you're taking this into account. And so, I hope that you'll do that.
Molly Galler (23:52)
If you're listening and you believe in a higher power, please send up prayers for Stephanie to get an agent for this book. And it's like the only thing that I want to happen in 2024. I just really feel like this is the one I've read every single book that Stephanie has written. And this is the best one by far. And I feel like it deserves this. So if you're listening, just put all the good vibes out there.
Kaitlin (24:01)
She has a movie script that I also really want to come to fruition at some point. Well, there's one that's my favorite, which you know, and...
Stephanie (24:14)
You guys are good friends. I have a lot of movie scripts.
Molly Galler (24:23)
Yeah. All right. I'm not here. I want to just say.
Kaitlin (24:25)
I want that very much. I've also imagined it as like maybe like an eight or 10 episode mini series, all normal people, maybe. So I've wanted that to come to fruition for a long time. And this is my number two thing that I want for you.
Stephanie (24:42)
I actually think this week in order to distract myself from not being under contract, I'm going to start a first draft of something, probably one of the manuscripts, turn it into a book.
Molly Galler (24:47)
I'm going to make a first draft of something. I'll leave the pages to Chris to turn it into a book. Great. And it's not going to be something I want to write. But listen, just let this dress run. This is how I want it. I'm going to start the dress. Or what?
Kaitlin (24:53)
Great. And if you want to bake me something while you're at it, I wouldn't be opposed. Listen, just let the stress fly for it. This is how I benefit from stuff stress or ramen. I'm up for a ramen date at some point, if you'd be interested. It's going to end of the week is rain actually, which is too bad. all right. So my catch up is I put an offer in on a house, didn't get it. Still on the hunt for a house.
Stephanie (24:58)
just let the stress fly.
If the weather cools down, it's like a little too warm for that.
Molly Galler (25:07)
It's a lot of fun and it's a great way to actually just do that. So my future plan is to come and operate a house in the city of Stillam, which is a four -in -a -street. The Massachusetts market is crazy. That's the name. So we're going to see if we can just do this new thing. How they can bring that life to life and make it seem like it's a common property.
Stephanie (25:12)
Alright, so my catch -up is that when an author and my house did get it, still on the front four counts, the Massachusetts market is crazy nuts bananas. Real estate agents do this new thing where they have an ad hoc deadline to try and make it seem like it's a coveted property. So you have to go to an ad hoc again and make an offer by 5 PM on Tuesday.
Kaitlin (25:21)
The Massachusetts market is crazy nuts, bananas, real estate agents do this new thing where they have like a hard deadline to try and like make it seem like it's a coveted property. So you have to like go to the open house over the weekend and then like make an offer by 5pm on a Monday and then like hold your breath and hope you get it and hope that somebody didn't come in with cash or somebody didn't waive the inspection or whatever. It's pretty cutthroat, didn't get it.
Stephanie (25:39)
Can I interject for one second? I would recommend to someone who has no house knowledge whatsoever, do not waive your house inspection. But saying that, I also need you to know that not all inspectors are equal. We just had a house inspection done.
Molly Galler (26:00)
But saying that, I want you to know that not all of us are people. We just have a certain number. And we don't lie. Two quarters of that was worship. For example, send it to the leaders of the party. Well, if the other people too close, they have a problem with them. I had said, well, if you talk, all you have to do is try to talk and all of you, the heat works. So just know from the beginning, not all of you are supposed to be a party.
Stephanie (26:09)
and we went line by line and three quarters of that was horseshit. For example, said that the heaters didn't work. Well, if he had looked closely at the bottom of them, I had set all of them to off. All you have to do is turn it on and then voila, the heat works. So just know going in, not all house inspectors are equal. Find one that has either great reviews or someone you know use them.
Kaitlin (26:24)
So just know that we're not going to go to the hospital.
So my real estate agent came up with this like compromise that I actually really liked Where we put a number on the inspection so I put in the offer which was above asking and I said I'd like to do an exploratory inspection
Stephanie (26:34)
but don't waive them because there are always going to be issues with the house and if you don't know what you're getting into, you really should have someone sort of protecting your interests. That's all I'm gonna say.
That's fair.
Kaitlin (27:00)
and I won't hold the buyers to any of it unless it exceeds $20 ,000. Which the seller's agent came back and said that she actually thought that that made mine be a higher on the list potential offer. I kind of like living in that land because then if you're talking a septic system or the furnace is trash or what, you know what I mean? Then they have to do it.
Molly Galler (27:05)
Yeah, the summer pages came back and said that she actually talked about that would be my time up list thing, potential offer. So I felt like that was the best way to present the offer of the summer system.
Stephanie (27:17)
So I kind of like living in that land. Because then if you're talking like the sector system or the furnace, it's trash, you know, then they have to do it. But it's like 10 things that like I've been shipped away at, that were kind of not fish, but the houses that we live in and like whatever that is in there. That's what I consider weird there. So that's kind of like where I'm at with that.
Molly Galler (27:26)
travel to Europe and the United States. But it's like 10 things that I would prefer to make happen in my life. There's a lot of things that I was going to try to get out of like whatever. I would like to set up a pair of pair. So that's kind of like starting to talk to the house because I'm spending a lot of time in the United States right now because I think I was making a lot of progress. I had a lot of travel to do. I had a lot of work to do.
Kaitlin (27:30)
But if it's like 10 things that like I can chip away at over time and they're not detrimental to the house or me living in it, then like, okay, like whatever that's just like wear and that's what I consider wear and tear. so that's kind of like where I'm at with the house hunting. I'm spending a lot of weekends right now because I think once I hit July and August, I have a lot of traveling that I'm doing. I have a lot of golf that I want to play. I want to see my parents on the Cape a bunch.
And I'm just not going to be around as much to like do this house hunting. So I kind of am like putting a hard stop on it at the end of June and like giving myself a break. that being said, I'm going to one this afternoon. So like, watch that be the one that would be hilarious and I would love it. But anyway, so my hard stop is June. Every time I put a hard stop on something, like when I was applying to teaching jobs, I was like, I'm giving myself this timeline of.
Stephanie (28:15)
I don't know that's what I'm talking about. So I'm not talking about gym. Every time I feel like I'm not talking about gym, like when I was applying for teaching jobs, I was like, I'm giving myself this time, right, like whatever. Something that usually seems to happen, like in the first lessons. So I'm saying this out loud, I was talking about gym, I'm a gym. I have basically like a week left of teaching, so this is kind of like a crazy time where I'm not finding it anymore.
Molly Galler (28:20)
I was like, I'm teaching, I was like, I'm giving myself this timeline, like whatever, something that seems to happen in the virtual space. So I'm saying, I'll have the first talk here. I'm here. I have basically like a couple of things.
Kaitlin (28:26)
like whatever, something usually seems to happen, like the universe listens. So I'm saying this out loud, hard stop June, end of June. I have basically like a week left of teaching. So this is kind of like a crazy time where like I'm not assigning anything else and we like kind of fill class time with fun stuff. But then I also am like submitting my grades and it's like a little chaotic. And then...
Stephanie (28:43)
We had a huge celebration at my school last night because this is the 100th anniversary of this whole being open. So we had this crazy banana centennial celebration that was Gap Beavent. And they had people park off site. They had coach buses to like,
Kaitlin (28:53)
we had a huge celebration at my school last night because this is the 100th anniversary of the school being open. So we had this like crazy banana centennial celebration that was Gatsby themed. And they had people park off site and they had like coach buses to like, there were 450 people at this event. It was alums. It was like previous faculty, retired faculty. The previous head of school came like.
Molly Galler (29:08)
people are offsite and they have like coach buses to like move over to the people at this event. It was a long list. It was like previous faculty, prior faculty, degrees, high school, and like there were places to be there. And if you work at the school and you're like required to sign up for a shift or day in some way, this is where my first movie goes fast. I have three events.
Stephanie (29:13)
It was a lump, it was like previous faculty, retired faculty, degrees at a school, and life. There were tons of people there.
Kaitlin (29:23)
there were tons of people there. And if you work at the school, you're like required to like sign up for a shift for doing something. This is not my first rodeo. So I signed up for a pre -event activity in which I was supposed to call former faculty and invite them and let them know like, hey, did you get our flyer or our email? Like, do you want to come to the centennial celebration? And...
There was a window of like making the phone calls between May 13th and May 17th and the email went out to sign up for a job on May 14th. So already a day was gone by and I was like, hmm, okay. Signed up for it. Do you think a single person gave me a list of phone numbers of people I was supposed to call? Absolutely not. I did nothing for the centennial celebration. Thrilled about it. Bragged about it to everybody I knew. I was like, I did nothing. Meanwhile, my friends had to like man the photo booth or be a greeter at the door.
Stephanie (29:55)
I was like, hmm, okay. So I'm like, all right, do you think it's a university that we should tell numbers of people that are in school? I was like, I think it's a college. I don't know how to think of a college. It's a real disaster. When I get home, everybody's like, I was like, I did something. You might have my friends come in and like, man the photo or you greet them at the door. Or towards the end of the night, they'll have people like, handing out like,
Molly Galler (30:06)
This is something that's really, really thrilling about it. Lacking up everything. I was like, I didn't tell you. Me and my friends had to like, man, look. We're gonna need it at the door. Or, towards the end of the night, we'll have people like, handing out chocolate colored board games. And like, and you're gonna have a school walk in, and it's gonna have to be like,
Kaitlin (30:19)
Or towards the end of the night, they had people handing out chocolate -covered Oreos that had the emblem of the school on it and the swag and whatnot, what have you. And so it was ridiculous. So my friends and I, it was open bar. There was one, I actually thought the food setup was dumb. I would not have planned it the way that they did it, but it was in our gymnasium and they rented all these couches and furniture.
Stephanie (30:25)
So my friends and I, it was open -box. There was one...
Molly Galler (30:30)
So it was like ridiculous. So when I was in the library, it was open door. There was one... I had to go to the set up and stuff. I was up with it. It was hard to see everything. There were these couches and a furniture and plants. And like, we didn't even know what we were doing.
Stephanie (30:38)
I actually thought the food setup was dumb. I would not have blended with it. But it was in our town, and they rented all these couches and furniture and plants. And it didn't even look like a gym or anything ridiculous. And it had a jazzy quartet band singing pop classes. And it was very nice. There was an ice sculpture at the bar. It was like the...
Kaitlin (30:47)
and plants and like it didn't even look like the gym anymore. It was ridiculous. And they had a, like a jazzy quartet band singing pop classics. And it was like, it was very nice. There was a, there was an ice sculpture at the bar that was like the, the like logo of the school. Like it was swanky. It felt like a very, very fancy bar mitzvah basically. So.
Stephanie (31:08)
local school like it is like it's not like a very fair pants environment so the food station one food station was they had like already scooped bowls out of these items and so there was like some kind of sweet potato concoction that was like had also like earth and like some kind of like you could scoop it with like a chair kind of thing and then they also had yoghurt with them.
Kaitlin (31:16)
the food stations, one food station was, they had like already scooped bowls out of these items. And so there was like a, some kind of sweet potato concoction that was like, had all sorts of like herbs and like a, some kind of like, you could scoop it with like a chip kind of thing. And then they also had gnocchi with nut free pesto. So those were like the bowls you could grab at the one station. And then the other station was.
Stephanie (31:38)
free pesto, so those were like the oldest photographic plant stations, and then the other station was every plant is usually possibly a happy plant. It was great. I had the idea of putting one for the first time in my life. And also they had, I thought it was shrimp cocktail of course, but shrimp were grilled, but it still had like some kind of like cocktail sauce in it like you went through there.
Kaitlin (31:44)
every kind of sushi you could possibly imagine. It was great. I tried to get a photo of it, but there were too many people in line. And also they had, I thought it was shrimp cocktail at first, but the shrimp were grilled, but it still had some kind of cocktail sauce that it looked like. It went with it. So that was all seafood. And then there were some past appetizers, but I didn't really...
Molly Galler (31:52)
And I thought it was shrimp cocktail first, but shrimp were great. But it's still probably some kind of like cocktail sauce that people like to eat. So that was in fall season. And that was the first time we had that in July. But I was like, I don't think we could have a good price to try.
Stephanie (32:06)
So that's like a seafood and that's where some of the appetizers provided the, I don't know if people just do things, but my sense of object is that. And then there's the cast dessert, so there was like a fruit sorbet, a banana pudding.
Kaitlin (32:11)
I don't know if the people just didn't make it to my section of the gym or what happened. And then they did past desserts. So there was like a fruit sorbet, a banana pudding, mini whoopie pies that were on a tray of rainbow sprinkles. So if you were a sprinkle person, you could roll your mini whoopie pie around in it, which I have to say rainbow sprinkles as like a...
Molly Galler (32:38)
I was waiting for you to say chocolate fountain.
Kaitlin (32:38)
base, like a setting on a thing. I'm going to steal that for a party at some point because it was like so festive looking. And then in the corner, they had two people doing cotton candy that one flavor was rose or rose and the other was champagne, which I hate cotton candy and I didn't eat it, but it was very fancy.
Stephanie (32:38)
based on a setting on a thing. I really feel that for a party at some point, because it's so festive. And in the corner, they had two people doing cotton candy that one flavor was rose or rosé and the other was champagne, which I think cotton candy had to be the pair of hands.
Kaitlin (33:01)
No, no chocolate fountain. Nope, didn't have one. No fountains of anything.
Stephanie (33:01)
No. I'm going to say something and you can make me edit it out if you think that it's not appropriate for this. Okay. I wish that instead of spending money on silly frivolous things, they thought harder about retaining talent that can bring their students up to a level.
Kaitlin (33:10)
I'm pretty sure I don't care already.
Stephanie (33:29)
where they will then go on to high school and succeed.
Molly Galler (33:30)
which was like the theme of my kind of music video was why this was special. It's fine. It doesn't look special. I mean, please. Why this was special. And how it was going to affect my music speeches, all this. It was, you know, whatever. I will say, if you weren't a fan of the number, it was $200 ago. And...
Kaitlin (33:32)
which was like the theme of the whole night. I mean, there was a video of why the school is special. It's fine. It doesn't really matter. I don't work there anymore in like two weeks. Why the school is special and they had all these former faculty give speeches and all this and it was, you know, whatever. I will say if you weren't a faculty member, it was $100 a person to go. And...
Stephanie (33:44)
I will say if you work with families, you never get $100 a person to balance. So I would say out of the 450 people, there are probably at least 100 people that have to pay because we don't work in an event, quote unquote. So they have to go pay after the balance.
Molly Galler (33:58)
So I would say after that, the people that are most likely, at least a hundred people that didn't have the babies, we were working the event almost full. So they have to pay up to $1 .50. The event easily exceeded $35 .20, which is really nice. And the event was probably set up just based on what I had in mind. It was a complete open bar with a high shower of water.
Kaitlin (33:58)
So I would say out of the 450 people, there were probably at least a hundred people that didn't have to pay because we were working the event, quote unquote. so they had people pay a hundred dollars a person. The event easily exceeded 35 grand. I mean, this was like a wedding basically. I mean, the band alone is probably 10 grand just based on what I know about wedding bands. it was complete open bar with high shelf liquor, like.
Stephanie (34:11)
The expense of the offense easily exceeded 35 grand. I mean, just the way it went, basically. The band was probably 10 grand, just based on what I've talked about.
Kaitlin (34:28)
This was an expensive prospect. I get that the school is a hundred years old, but like, and I've, you know, like at an event like that, I was like, there's going to be like some fundraising aspect to it where there will be like a silent auction or something. No, there was nothing like that. There was no like open your checkbook kind of thing for the school. So they just were like shelling out money for this event. And then I was standing with my friends. We're about to do an English department photo in the photo booth.
Stephanie (34:56)
And all of a sudden this very loud, aggressive hissing sound starts. I'm like ready to like go like to the cocktail and look at it. I mean I do it in college school for like a million pairs, like I've seen some things. All of a sudden, it's like, it's a huge loud hissing sound. We're like, are we, are the sprinklers about to go off when everybody's in this very fancy party? no. All of a sudden, from every corner of your room, confetti cans.
Molly Galler (34:57)
And all of a sudden, this very loud, impressive, hissing sound starts. I'm not ready to play for once in a while, but I'm not going to be. It's totally different from when I first went practicing for things. All of a sudden, it's a huge amount of hissing sound that's coming out of the speakers and the speakers are going to be heard. no. All of a sudden.
Kaitlin (34:57)
and all of a sudden this very loud, aggressive hissing sound starts. I'm ready to go into lockdown mode. I taught in public school for a million years. I've seen some things. All of a sudden, it's making this huge, loud hissing sound, and I'm like, are the sprinklers about to go off on everybody at this very fancy party? no. All of a sudden, from every corner of the room, confetti cannons that we didn't even know were there.
Molly Galler (35:21)
When we started the drug, confetti candidates that we didn't even know were there, started chewing on the places, where was covered an interesting confetti? It was hot. There was a cop that was at the end of the park, I don't know what happened, or this guy who was there, and he was sitting there and he was like, because he was like, please, don't do this to me, I don't want to do this to you. I just was like, what is this guy? It was hot.
Stephanie (35:26)
start shooting all over the place the floor was covered in things it was wild there was a cop that was like landing the door I don't know what the hell his purpose was but he was there and he had his video camera on his hand because he was like these kinds of crazy people like I just need to just like watch his display it was wild because we had just sang to school happy birthday which I thought was the corny song that I had heard twice in my life
Kaitlin (35:26)
start shooting all over the place. The floor was covered an inch thick with confetti. It was wild. There was a cop that was like manning the door. I don't really know what his purpose was, but he was there. And he was videoing the whole thing because he was like, these fucking crazy people. I think he just was like, what is this event? It was wild because we had just sang the school happy birthday, which I thought was the corniest thing I've ever heard in my entire life.
Molly Galler (35:49)
I will say as someone who plans a lot of events for the nonprofits that I volunteer with, I'm not surprised to hear that they didn't solicit people while you were there, but their hope for sure.
Kaitlin (35:55)
And then the hissing sound started and then the cannons of confetti shot everywhere.
Stephanie (35:55)
And the fifth sound starts with, I thought you were going to say that there was like a dance troupe that was hired to come in and dance or something.
Kaitlin (36:04)
Might as well have happened. Might as well have happened.
Molly Galler (36:19)
is that people had an amazing time. They walked away feeling closer to the school, like they have this tightened, strengthened bond, and the next time they solicit them, whether that's one -on -one or the next time the parents are all together or whatever it is, surely they will be asking them for more money, I guarantee it.
Stephanie (36:37)
If you can afford for confetti cannons, you can afford to pay an English teacher full time.
Kaitlin (36:44)
I think it was more than four. I mean, this is like a double -sized gymnasium. It's huge.
Molly Galler (36:47)
Well, in the fact that like they paid for buses, they had all these branded elements, like if I were you, knowing everything that you've gone through, I think even just seeing like the ice sculpture would have sent me over the edge. There's just like...
Kaitlin (37:00)
It did. I took photos and sent it to my family. I was like, this is what I'm dealing with right now. Thank God I didn't actually have to work at the event because I would have lost it. And also one of my colleagues is a long -term sub and he just was like under the assumption that he did not have to attend this because he hasn't been a full -time faculty member. And our boss told him that he was expected to be there. So in the 11th hour, he had to go into the like shift.
Stephanie (37:05)
Thank God we didn't actually have to lock a DMN because I had lost it. And also, one of my colleagues had a long term sub and he just was under the assumption that he did not want to attend this because he hasn't been a full time faculty member. And our boss told him that he was expected to be there. So it's still 7 hours. He had to go into the shift spreadsheet and sign up for a bar which started at 9pm. It was wild. It was brilliant.
Molly Galler (37:09)
the event because I was lost in it.
Kaitlin (37:27)
spreadsheet and sign up for like a garbage thing at like 9pm. It was wild. It was really wild. There were a lot of people that came, did what they had to do and then got out. It was crazy. It was crazy. I've never been to an event like that and it just was like very... Yeah, I was gonna say yucky. Wasteful is more posh. My issue with it...
Molly Galler (37:29)
It's wasteful, I think is the word you're looking for.
Stephanie (37:35)
There were a couple people that came and did what they had to do and they went out and worked. It was crazy. It was crazy. I don't know what the hell happened. It happened. And it just wasn't easy. It was very creepy.
It's a waste of time. Yeah, I would say yeah, waste of time is more a project. My issue with it is that I try to expose myself and I try to talk it full -fret here, like this is a protest. It's like...
Kaitlin (37:57)
is that like I taught in public school for so long and now like I taught at private school for a year. And I'm just like, this is like grotesque. Like this is like so unnecessary. And like everybody was just like patting themselves on the backs at like how great we are. And I was like, we're not that great. Like honestly, we could be so much better. And then all these parents were asking me why I'm not coming back next year. And I had to be like, well, they won't give me health insurance as I'm in a cocktail dress.
Stephanie (38:09)
So, I'm on a test set and like, everybody was just like patting themselves on the back to look how great we are. We're not that great, like, I don't think we're that great.
And then all these parents were asking me why I was working in a bad experience. I was like, how is it that I have to be all the time? As an octopress, I break the free phallus with two syringes in my hand, and I'm stripping on a prosthetic limb. And I'm like, why are they trying to use the bed sheet? So I have to be like, I'm a life -saving person. I'm a ruthless, economy therapist. It was ridiculous. And I was not carrying a concrete lie. I was not coming back. I have to say that I'm a life -saving person.
Molly Galler (38:25)
I have to say that the party that you're describing is reminding me a lot of a show that
Kaitlin (38:27)
drinking free Palomas with sushi on my dish in my hand and I'm tripping on confetti on the floor. I'm like, yeah, they couldn't give me the benefits, so I have to go back to my brother's full time. I mean, it was a comedy of errors. It was ridiculous. And I was not shy about telling people why I was not coming back.
Molly Galler (38:53)
Steph watched and then I just binged and we hope you're also going to binge called Maxson Hall, which is about a very preppy school. It's not a boarding school. It's not private school.
Stephanie (39:01)
No, it's not a boarding school. I think it takes, here's my just quick aside on that. It takes place in England and yet they're all speaking Dutch, German, Dutch. Not important, but.
Molly Galler (39:11)
Charmin. Yeah. Anyway, point being, if you like a gossip girl type vibe, if you like these kinds of over the top rich people parties, Max and Hall has six episodes. It's on Amazon prime.
Stephanie (39:25)
and they just got approved for season two.
Molly Galler (39:27)
The lead gentleman is extremely handsome and I think you won't regret it. And since it's fictional, hopefully it won't give you the same ick vibe that hearing about this party just did, but it's very much that like the big party for the donors and they have the students involved. You didn't mention, but I'm sure it was also part of it. yeah, it's very similar vibes. I have one more update for our listeners before we get into the book of the day.
Kaitlin (39:32)
I have one too that Steph and Molly don't know about yet. Ha ha ha. Okay.
Molly Galler (39:54)
you go first.
Stephanie (39:55)
Yeah, you go first.
Kaitlin (40:00)
So I was supposed to go to a taping of, I was going to call it the Cold Bear Report, Late Night with Cold Bear, whatever his show is called. And my dad passed away and the timing was just like, I was like, I'm going to give up these tickets. It's just like not going to work. It doesn't make sense right now. So a week or so ago, I was like, I should get on the wait list to try and go to Cold Bear again. Like I'm going to put my name on the list.
So I put my name on the list and within 24 hours, they emailed me and said, we would love for you to come see a taping of Colbert report this summer on July 11th. That date meant nothing to me at that point in time. And 48 hours later, I found out that that's when Trump will be sentenced. So the day that Trump gets his sentencing, I will be at a taping of the Colbert show.
Stephanie (40:26)
So I keep my head and in the 24 hours of my state, I said, we would love for you to come see us. We'll be recording this summer. I'm sure I'll be able to. That means that nothing will happen in time. In 48 hours, I'll come out with that's what I'm talking about. So you have to come. I will be in a key thing or something very loud. And then that's what I'm going to say.
Molly Galler (40:36)
That day meant nothing to me at that point in time. And 14 hours later, I found out that that's when Trump would be sentenced. So today, I'm just trying to say, I was getting a few people there to vote. And that weekend, I'm going from Wednesday to Saturday, and that weekend, the RAC is in the city, which I also did not know. So it's going to be...
Kaitlin (40:53)
And then that weekend, I'm going from Wednesday to Saturday, that weekend, the RNC is in New York City, which I also did not know. So it's going to be bonkers USA. I'm so excited. It will probably be 200 degrees in the city while I'm there. And I just don't even care. And I'm probably going to have the time of my life. Like honestly.
Stephanie (40:58)
Amazing.
Molly Galler (41:05)
wait, before we get to that, I just want to say that bonkers USA should be Trump's campaign slogan for the rest of the campaign. Anyway, but yes, tell the people about why we three are going to New York.
Stephanie (41:17)
Speaking of New York, you need to tell the listeners the other update.
Kaitlin (41:29)
Thank you.
Big, big, big news. For Molly's big four -o, we are going to New York City and we are going to see Romeo and Juliet starring Kit Conner and Rachel Ziegler. Steph is the only one of the three of us that got a pre -sale code and she waited for five hours in the queue, Taylor Swift style, to get the tickets. Bless her. The next day when the general on sale to the public,
Molly Galler (41:59)
The next day, I walked in to the public room lobby, I had only cushions and gifts, and I got into the, I got into like five, it's within three minutes, like I did. But the truth is, it was five minutes longer. So, the steps were like, just like completely knocked out of our process and went out and onto my life. In addition to this.
Kaitlin (42:02)
happened. I went on for shits and gigs. And I got into the key I got into like buying tickets within three minutes I timed it. But the cheapest ticket was $500. So Steph really just like completely knocked it out of the park for us and we're going to have an unbelievable time.
Molly Galler (42:25)
Unreal theater performance, which I know it will be. We're also going to try to go to 11 Madison Park, which I have been wanting to go to for years and years and years. If you aren't familiar, it's a restaurant off of Madison Square Park and it always makes the list of the 50 best restaurants in the world. There is just like a magic about that place. I've watched documentaries about it. Like I'm far down the rabbit hole and they decided about two years ago.
to make their entire menu plant -based. So at first I was like, I don't know if I should go, it might not be worth it because what if everything is like meaty? But hopefully we're gonna get an incredible vegetarian feast as part of this New York weekend. So very excited and yes, huge thanks to Steph for sitting in front of her laptop literally for five hours straight so that we could go to this. Well, I was also on the other side of the world and it was 1 a for me and I was like laying in the bed.
following the text chain just to make sure I could like give her any real -time answer that she needed while this was happening but we made it we're in we have the tickets and obviously we'll recap it for everybody when we come back in the fall but okay one final update before we get into the book of the day which is to say that right before I was leaving for this vacation we had decided to do a giveaway on our Instagram of a book by
Kate Spencer, who is an author that I love and adore, and she was also the co -host of the Forever 35 podcast for many, many years. And Kate just like exploded my brain by responding to us in the DMs and not only sharing our giveaway post to her thousands and thousands of followers, but offering to send her newest book, One Last Summer, which comes out on June 11th, to our winner.
including signing it and customization of her inscription. And she also offered to be a guest on this podcast in the future. And I almost fell off my chair. This is like to me, there are A -list celebs like the Brad Pitts of the world. This is like very A -list in my world. I listened to Forever 35 multiple times per week, every week for over five years. It was a huge part of my COVID experience was like hearing them in my ear pods, AirPods.
Stephanie (44:14)
including time and customization of her in this room. And she also offered ideas of his podcast and the future of the house. But I'll put it here. This is to me, very much the grand fits of the world. This is like very much in my world. I just think that is why.
I'm so excited to read this text.
Molly Galler (44:44)
I just love her and I loved her book in a New York Minute. I'm so excited to read this next one. So hopefully we'll be able to find a time that works for her schedule. She's based in LA. But I just want to say if by some miracle, Kate Spencer, you're listening to this, we are very, very grateful to you. We're so excited to read your new book. We can't wait to potentially chat with you. And just thank you for being all up in the Bookstagram Booktalk universe and supporting what we're doing in addition to us supporting what you are doing.
Kaitlin (44:45)
I just love her and I'd love to book a new book and I'm so excited to read this text. So hopefully you'll be the most excited to have that works for Chris and you'll share this with your friends. But I just want to say, I'm so grateful to you, to your listeners, you know, very grateful to you, or so excited to read your book. We can't wait to turn to you to have a great day. And just thank you for being here. I hope that in the next period of the book talk, you'll be able to be supporting what we're doing, and you'll be able to be supporting what we need.
It was such a pleasant surprise after. When was that over the winter when we had that petty interaction where we tagged somebody? It's just like so refreshing that somebody like appreciates that we're like reading their books and talking about them and tagging them and Ellie and Tessa are like our listeners, Ellie and Tessa are hardcore, hardcore forever 35 people. And I texted them the news and they were like,
Molly Galler (45:17)
Yeah.
Molly and Tessa are our listeners on Tessa. They're hardcore, hardcore, they're the 35 people. And then we can text them out the news and they can like, do you think? And I'm like, no, I don't think I want this. But I appreciate in three lines the significance of it and I'm very much looking forward to playing the role of the non -fandirl in the film. And I'm looking forward to it in the block and cast, I can make sure that we like, get the hang of it.
Stephanie (45:29)
Ellie and Tessa, our listeners, Ellie and Tessa, are hardcore, hardcore Rack of 35 people. And I texted them, and they were like, dude, you faked. And I was like, no, I told them I was going to broadcast it. But I appreciate and realize the significance of it. And I'm very much looking forward to playing the whole of the novel Jan -Girls trio. And she looks in the locker room, and I can make sure that I can, like, see it.
Kaitlin (45:39)
did you faint? And I was like, no, because I don't listen to her podcast, but I appreciate and realize the significance of it. And I'm very much looking forward to playing the role of the non -fangirl in this trio. Like I can keep us in lock and check. I can make sure that we're like being professional and that nobody is like, you know, if I see like sweat coming off of Steph's brow, I'll step in, like it'll be fine.
Molly Galler (45:59)
That seems like a good plan.
Stephanie (46:00)
I was just gonna say I'm gonna be sweating like crazy.
Kaitlin (46:09)
I'm happy to be that lady. I'm purposely not going to listen to any Forever 35 in preparation so that I can be the composed one of the group.
Hahahaha!
Molly Galler (46:25)
Yeah, I hope that I will be able to be chill and actually just like enjoy the privilege of getting to have a conversation with her and not fall over myself. But anyway, yes, we're very excited about Kate and our book is coming out next week. So you'll see more of that on our Instagram for sure. Okay, transitioning into the book of the day. We are talking about, as Caitlin said earlier, one in a millennial, which is written by Kate Kennedy.
Kaitlin (46:37)
But yes, we're very excited about the idea and I'm excited to continue studying it. So we'll see you now at the next lecture. Okay, transition into the book.
Molly Galler (46:53)
I started following Kate on Instagram years and years ago. I found her because at the time she was making hilarious doormats that said things like, turn off your straightener. And she got some pretty like decent press coverage of these mats. And she actually left her full -time corporate job in order to pursue doing these hand -painted doormats. And then she also decided around the same time to start a podcast.
on kind of all of her pop culture musings. So Be There in Five, the podcast, covers everything from TV and movies to very big Taylor Swift situation going on there. And she also talks a lot about millennial culture, millennial nostalgia, sort of what it means to be of this age group.
And when I found out that she was coming out with a book, I was like, my God, like her podcast is already so long for most episodes are more than 90 minutes, like 90 minutes to two hours. And I thought this will be great because it will be like almost uninterrupted medium for her to share everything that she wants to share. I, these gals can attest, I wanted to read this for months and months and months and I, and I waited because it was hard cover. It was very expensive.
Kaitlin (47:58)
This will be great. I guess it will be like almost uninterrupted media for the chair and eventually monster chair. I used to go to the rest. I went to the chair once and once and once and I moved because it was hard to get a good sense of. And then Mr. Chair, he gave me a good card with the obviousism to the coursework book so I decided to use it on this in my hero book. So I want to say that one of the things I enjoy most about P is the music nature. And I'm thinking that for a conventional book.
Molly Galler (48:11)
And then my sister gave me a gift card, at the holiday season to Porter Square books. So I decided to use it on this. And then here we are. So I want to say that one of the things I enjoy most about Kate is listening to her. And I'm picking that verb intentionally listening to her in the podcast medium, listening to her talk to the camera on Instagram. I think for me, one of the things that was hard about this book is that I think her humor and her wit.
Stephanie (48:34)
I would disagree because I actually, since I've listened to so many episodes of her podcast, I didn't hear my inner monologue. I heard her. She has like a sing -songy poetry way that she speaks on the podcast so fast and...
Molly Galler (48:42)
it's not always coming across in the written word.
Kaitlin (48:58)
I've never heard the podcast. I think it's important if you are interested in reading this book just to know that she kind of splits it up.
Stephanie (49:03)
I don't know, it's like melodic, the way that she talks. And I heard that in every single sentence. I was reading faster than I normally would because of the cadence of her voice. I don't know, I like literally heard her voice in my head while I was reading it.
Kaitlin (49:27)
chronologically in terms of like coming of age and being considered a millennial. So she has like a section that's 1990s and like what was going on during that period and then the 2000s and then today. And she covers things like, she covers things like, you know, what it was like to be a girl in the 90s and everything was like.
I had that game Mall Madness, which was all about shopping and spending money. And then I had another game called Girl Talk, which was like, you would do truth or dare, and there were zit stickers you had to wear. And it was a totally bizarro. Looking back on it, I'm like, this is what we were giving the girls to do. This is ridiculous. And there were so many, I mean, she talks about...
Stephanie (50:01)
is like you and your truth are here. It's in stickers. It's lit. I told you it was on.
Kaitlin (50:19)
sleepovers versus a slumber party. And she talks about having a day bed, which I had one. There are so many things that like, and like I said, I don't listen to her podcast. I just started following her on Instagram a couple months ago because she's a Swiftie. She got recommended to me on Instagram and I didn't even really know that she was the one that had written this book. Even though I had heard about this book, I had read a review of it or something. And
Stephanie (50:40)
I heard about this book. I had read it a few times on that. And so there's so many things that resonated with me at the very moment when I was very close to the age of her. But for me, I'll dismiss me, there wasn't like an anthropopoeic piece or like a...
Kaitlin (50:46)
So there's so many things that like resonate with me as a 39 year old woman who is like very close in age to her. But for me, what was missing is there wasn't like an analytical piece or like a, it almost felt like I was like reading her journal entries about like reminiscing about the past. And it was supposed to be, I think essays about like what it's like to be a woman that grew up during that time.
Stephanie (51:01)
It almost felt like I was reading a journal which was about reminiscing about the past and it was supposed to be, I think, essays about what it's like to be a woman that grew up during that time. And I just didn't feel like we finished the loop. I felt like, here's what this is all about. I know that we have copies and I know that we gave that and I know that we played all that mess and I know that there's no culmination.
Kaitlin (51:13)
And I just didn't feel like she finished the loop. Like I felt like, here's a list of all the things, like remember Tamagotchis and remember daybeds and remember when we played Mall Madness. And then there was like no culminating explanation of like why she wanted to talk about those things. Or like she talked about like a little bit about like how they influenced and informed her career later on. But like there just wasn't like...
Stephanie (51:27)
explain to me why she wanted to talk about those things. She talked about a little bit about how she wanted to make her career a little more fun. There just wasn't like, thematically, I wasn't really sure how she was doing this as a book. It just felt like a list of all these cool things that she wanted people to connect to her about. And I just felt like that had like wrapped up. It felt like it was a problem.
Kaitlin (51:42)
Thematically, I wasn't really sure what the hell she was doing with this as a book. It just felt like a list of all these cool things that she wanted people to connect with her about. And I didn't really feel like it had been like wrapped up. It felt like a little raw and unfinished and like maybe she hadn't completed all of her thoughts.
Molly Galler (51:57)
It's super interesting that you should say that because I read a lot of the Goodreads comments right before I left my own personal review because I was just kind of like curious if people felt the same way that I did. Many people said that this should have been in the memoir category and that even though it's not.
Stephanie (52:05)
Was it not?
Kaitlin (52:08)
No, it's essays. I think it would be in the essays and criticism section of a bookstore.
Molly Galler (52:22)
What's interesting is that in the intro, she talks about how it's not a memoir, but more like observations about, you know, her reflecting back on this time and kind of what her life is like now. And I think if it had been in the memoir category, she maybe could have gone further in a lot of the things that she discussed. So for example, she talks a lot about like body image.
And how when she was in a sorority in college, she really was like the hyper -focused on what she was wearing and what she looked like and was she skinny enough and how did she look in pictures with all these friends? And I thought to myself, if this were a true memoir, like she would have gone even further. She would have said how it's impacted her over time. If you follow her on Instagram, you know, she's still working on her own kind of body self -acceptance, especially now that she's a mom. I just felt that because it wasn't all the way in the personal category, she couldn't really take it there.
And I would have loved to hear that. And I think she does give her listeners a lot of that on the podcast. She's very vulnerable. She's very open. And I think she was trying to keep this in the, I don't know if analysis is the right word, but just almost like pop culture observations and reflections, instead of going all the way on the, this is how this impacted me, or this is how this is, you know, a part of the way I think about myself or my relationship or my approach to motherhood now.
Stephanie (53:32)
That was like
Molly Galler (53:46)
She actually did an episode where she interviewed her mom. And I learned so much about her in that conversation and the things that she sort of regretted about her very religious upbringing, the way that it made her think about dating. Huge.
Kaitlin (53:50)
And I learned so much about her in that conversation and the things that she sort of regretted about her marriage. That was like dating such a surprising thing. Huge! To have a family that's not super religious and to make that choice on your own to sort of enter into that culture. I wish we had done more about that because one, that would make you crazy at that age.
Stephanie (54:00)
such a surprising thing to like to, to, I just, to have a family that's not super religious and then to make that choice on your own to sort of enter into that culture is, I wish she had done more about that because one, that affects you crazy at that age, but also like, I didn't quite understand why she had chosen. Like I understand the whole like water skiing at camp thing, but like,
That is such a drastic decision to make without familial influence that I need to know more about.
Molly Galler (54:29)
Yeah, I want to also just share with the listeners a little bit about her writing style. She talks about how parents tend to talk about like the olden days and what it was like when they were kids. And she says, I think they forget that millennials have our own version of this. It's like, yeah, but walking miles to school in the snow was hard.
But have you ever had to navigate an empty new release VHS shelf at Blockbuster with a sleepover crew in tow that will never achieve rental consensus? Have you ever spent a night being disinvited to a slumber party in solitude, only to play solitaire and fail to experience the abundance of flying card stacks graphics of an it's time quote, make it rain you hoped would solve your pain?
Have you ever played fast and loose with a limewire computer virus that will come to your Windows 95 before your Melissa Etheridge album ever finishes downloading? Your skin just gets tougher when a burn CD takes eight hours to buffer and no one respects millennials for the baby pirates we once were, committing federal crimes on the daily to pay our respects to the arts by not paying anyone in the arts. It's just like, she sometimes hits it so on the head, that idea of the empty.
Kaitlin (55:44)
Can you tell me more about where the Papagenos and the Blockbuster were in Nonantum? What's there right now?
Molly Galler (55:50)
Blockbuster self just took me right back to the Blockbuster video in Nonanta, Massachusetts, which is a village of Newton next to the Papagenos. It was like every slumber party started there and you were like giggling and walking around trying to decide what movie we're going to choose.
Stephanie (56:04)
Okay.
Molly Galler (56:11)
So it's the giant plaza kind of between Nantum and Watertown that has the stop and shop grocery store. You have to drive down a hill to get to it. So there used to be to the left of the grocery store, the Papagenos and the Blockbuster. Those were the two stores that were on the left side of the plaza.
Kaitlin (56:18)
Yep. I understand. Yep. Yeah, I totally know where you're talking about now.
Stephanie (56:25)
I got one of my COVID vaccines in that plaza.
Molly Galler (56:35)
I also want to talk about, first of all, she has a chapter called, Are We Going Out Out? Which I just feel like is the most millennial question of all time. Like we all know what that means just by hearing, but towards the end of the book.
Kaitlin (56:40)
which I just realized is the most millennial question of all time. We all know that the... It's like the millennial version of like, but do you like like her? Yeah, exactly. But the thing I need to point out is, yeah, so I'm going to choose that teacher. She's talking about what happens if you get a bit older and some people are older and some people are not, some people are older, like, you know, older.
Stephanie (56:45)
Yeah.
Molly Galler (56:51)
Yeah, exactly. But at the end, like really close to the end, this is on page 262, she's talking about what happens as we get a bit older and some people are married and some people are not, some people get divorced, like, you know, all the things. And she's talking about how people who are single often get sort of isolated or routinely just called out for the fact that they're not in a traditional relationship.
And she says, we should be applauding single people for having the courage to leave relationships that aren't right for them. We should be marveling at their resilience in the event it wasn't their choice. Making the right decision for yourself time and time again is a marker of strength and self -worth that gets unfairly branded as quote, still being single, a title nobody should be reduced to outside of a W -2. Not spending your whole life in a shitty relationship is a pretty big W to me.
Stephanie (57:36)
One of my favorite chapters was when she revisits in her 30s, Saved by the Bell, because I feel like that was very clearly...
Molly Galler (57:50)
And I was like, can we get a standing ovation for that paragraph?
Kaitlin (57:55)
One of my favorite chapters was when she revisits in her 30s, Save My Child, because I really thought it was very clearly important in all of our childhoods. And I remember feeling like I was not supposed to like Jessie, because one, I hated my curly hair, and she had curly hair. But also she seemed so over the top, and I hate to use this word, but like almost kind of crazy. At the same time though, I did
Molly Galler (58:00)
and that helps. Yes.
Stephanie (58:05)
important in all of our childhoods. And I remember feeling like I was not supposed to like Jessie because one, I hated my curly hair and she had curly hair, but also she seemed so over the top. And I hate to use this word, but like almost kind of crazy at the same time though. I didn't like the way Slater talked to her, but I thought I was supposed to like it because of the way it's presented on the show. And now looking back, I'm like, what the f -
Molly Galler (58:16)
So she saw himself over the top and he was like, like, he's crazy. At the same time though, I didn't like her, I didn't see her talk to her, but I thought it was post -alive, I think this is the way it was presented.
Kaitlin (58:25)
We had teenager we had a teenage boy calling his girlfriend mama in the hallway. Hey mama Weird so weird and she was definitely supposed to be like the frazzled brainy friend that like Was super chaotic and like stressed out all the time even like aside from the caffeine pill episode like
Stephanie (58:42)
and she was definitely supposed to be like a fragile, grand, or a friend that like was super chaotic and like stressed out or whatever. Even like a five -man captain and a fill -up or whatever. She was definitely just like, kind of rabid and just kind of like, thick. I mean, definitely, you see the canines under the chandelier. It seems pretty weird, but like, she probably had parents that were like playing a lot of fresh college football, but apparently she didn't. I think she was slater.
Kaitlin (58:54)
She definitely was erratic and just kind of like, I mean, we never really see the families on that show, but it seemed pretty clear that she probably had parents that were putting a lot of pressure on her. And I think she and Slater were supposed to be opposites attract kind of thing. And it was just really chaotic. But I think it's in the same chapter. One of the lines that I wrote down to mention was,
Stephanie (59:11)
supposed to be like opposite tracks, right? It was just really chaotic. But I think the chapter that I wrote down the message was, of course, I have my piece. I have my piece, my future. Yep. I'm in a little bit of a fall and I'm just rolling around in it. And then there's a big, long, huge, and even a huge, large, huge chamber that we watch on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on
Kaitlin (59:22)
Of course I'm from the nineties. I glamorize lifeguard culture. And like, I remember as a kid being like, I'm going to have a whistle and I'm going to twirl it around my hand. And like Baywatch was huge. And even if you didn't watch Baywatch, Chandler and Joey watched Baywatch on Friends. So then you were like, should I watch Baywatch? I don't know. And so there were just like, it was all over the place. It was like, that's the cool summer job. Like.
Molly Galler (59:30)
I was growing up in the city, baby -locked with the youth, and even black -and -white, jam -locked, baby -locked, baby -locked on my knees, and I was like, when I get big -locked, I don't know. And so, there was just like, it was all work. It was like, I had to do a whole set of jobs, like, then you got the sandbox player, and they had, you know, complete work, and when you're there for it, you have to be in the car, right? It was just like, very much in the -
Stephanie (59:41)
I don't know. And so, there were like, it was all over the place. It was like, absolutely, it was kind of shocking. Like, then you have the Stan Fox, you know, he like, you know, completely pushed the funding for the party. Like, it was just like very much in the 90s. And actually, I know the public didn't watch it, but that was one of the things that really cracked me up about Stranger Things is that there's like a full season of like -
Kaitlin (59:50)
Then you had the Sandlot come out and he like, you know, completely worships Wendy Peffercorn and ends up being with her. And like, it was just like very much in the nineties. And actually I know Molly doesn't watch it, but that was one of the things that really cracked me up about Stranger Things is that there's like a whole season where like the guy that ends up being this like monstrous villain on the inside is the like hot.
Molly Galler (1:00:00)
It's been a packed day, I know that from watching, but that was one of the things that really cracked me up about the Stranger Things is that the whole season, the government is going to be in this monstrous villain movie. It's not like the hot, like, are like a full, like, a mullet, all pumped up to like, sweat and over it and everything.
Stephanie (1:00:11)
Yeah, for sure.
Kaitlin (1:00:16)
lifeguard at the pool with like a mullet and like all the moms are like sweating over him and like I was just like yeah this is it doesn't didn't everybody have a crush on a lifeguard at one point in their lives is it just our generation that she made me question myself a little bit like our kids not having crushes on lifeguards anymore
Molly Galler (1:00:23)
That's a very good question. I -
Kaitlin (1:00:38)
I'm going to ask my students actually, they won't tell me because they're 12, but like, I'm going to be like, how many of you had a crush on a lifeguard?
Molly Galler (1:00:44)
Yeah, I'm very curious for their answers, but also I was going to say back to the Save By The Bell bit, some of the best episodes are when they worked at the Malibu Sands Beach Club. It was like, I looked forward to those every time that would come into the cycle.
Kaitlin (1:00:52)
He was like, yeah, I looked forward to this every time I saw it.
Stephanie (1:00:52)
Yep.
Molly Galler (1:01:00)
Correct, Stacey Carosi. Yeah, I just, I think to bring it back to the summary, I think, of what we're all saying is that there's so much about this book, One and a Millennial, that is crazy relatable. And she articulates things in such a way that you picture it perfectly, like how you were playing that board game or how you used to get ready with your friends to go out, out or whatever it is.
Stephanie (1:01:22)
Or reminding you of one of the most terrifying episodes of Rescue 911 where the babysitter opens their mouth and their tongue gets stuck to the freezer and I was terrified afterwards. Never opened my mouth in your freezer.
Kaitlin (1:01:34)
The one that traumatized me was did you see the episode where the kids were making a bonfire in their yard and they thought they should just like put a little gasoline on it to like they put a little gasoline on it to like really get it going which they don't realize how bad of an idea that is because they're like 13 and this kid gets like his whole body burned and almost dies.
Stephanie (1:01:49)
Nope.
Molly Galler (1:01:57)
No.
Stephanie (1:02:03)
That show was the most traumatizing thing and I watched it every single week. I was like, why did we think that was good TV?
Kaitlin (1:02:10)
Did anybody watch the show Danger Bay? Okay, that was like, I think the kids version of Baywatch, but instead of it being lifeguards, it was people that rescued animals in a bay.
Stephanie (1:02:22)
Who who would we know that was in it?
Molly Galler (1:02:27)
Hey dude, Pete and Pete, there are just so many good Nick shows. But anyway, if you want a dose of this kind of nostalgia, I think you can either read the book or give her podcast a listen. I really think it's so great and...
Kaitlin (1:02:27)
I think literally no one. It was on around the same time as like, Hey dude, it was like danger band. Hey dude.
Stephanie (1:02:40)
You hear her voice.
Molly Galler (1:02:50)
You can pick and choose by the topics that you're interested in. So as opposed to this book where maybe, you know, you relate, let's say to 50 % of it with the podcast, you can bounce around on the topics that you're most interested in or the pop culture moments. Certainly if you're a Swifty, you should be following her already because she does amazing analysis of Taylor's every move.
Stephanie (1:03:00)
I would suggest her two -part series that she did, I don't know, like three summers ago about Bama society culture. That was a phenomenal listen.
Molly Galler (1:03:20)
Yeah, she went hard on the Alabama rush culture. And I think that's actually how I started like falling down that rabbit hole. And there was the HBO documentary and all these other things, but she was really like at the forefront. And sometimes she gets obsessed with very niche reality shows. So if you're following her and you have a shared joint interest, you will be in love with her because she deep dives on everything very, very, very extensively when she's interested.
Kaitlin (1:03:44)
Quick question. I'm not, I don't follow any of the sorority, Bama, whatever, whatever. I just don't. Did Outfit of the Day come out of Rush videos on TikTok? OOTD? What about Get Ready With Me? GRWM? Okay. I'm just curious. I don't know the origin stories of those things, but...
Stephanie (1:03:52)
I think it existed slightly before that. That might have. Yeah. See, I don't either, but I did listen. I mean, I don't, first of all, I'm not on TikTok. Second, I didn't follow any of the
Molly Galler (1:04:09)
I'm just curious if I didn't get to learn the stories of those things, but see, I don't either. But I do. I mean, I'm the first one to talk. So I can follow up on what the video, specifically, I've been watching, but what I did was I took her podcast and then turned it into a first -time. I think it's been a really important to do the research yourself. I mean, she does so much research for any topic she discusses, even just for trust.
Stephanie (1:04:22)
outfit of the day specifically for Bama Rush, but I did listen to her podcast and then kind of look some stuff up. I think you get enough from her that you don't need to do the research yourself. I mean, she does so much research for any topic she discusses that you can just sort of trust that she's telling you everything.
Molly Galler (1:04:39)
Yeah. I would also say, I can't remember where I first heard this, if it was from an author or if it was like in a podcast I was listening to, but someone recently said the more niche and specific something is, the more relatable it is. And I felt like this book is like a masterclass in that it's so specific. It's about such a specific age group, growing up experience, girlhood experience, self -esteem experience.
If you moved through the world on the same sort of timeline and age timeline as she did, you will undoubtedly have moments where you're like, yep, that's exactly how it was for me, or that's exactly how I felt, or that's how I spent my time with my friends, or we were talking about just before we started recording, Steph was interested in this one part in the chapter about popular girl handwriting. I mean, there's just certain things that she hits on that are so true and real.
Stephanie (1:05:22)
That's why I simply tell you quite frankly, sir, we are talking about just the real confidence that this incredibly strong prior to the chapter about popular well -being. I mean, you just say that the chief of staff that are so true to the idea of gel pens. Gel pens, so true.
Molly Galler (1:05:37)
gel pens, so many different things. So anyway, Kate Kennedy, we thank you for this mega deep dive on all things millennial. I thought this was really fun. I'm excited for her that this is a new medium for her, that she has Instagram, she has the podcast, now she has this. I have no idea how this will be one and done or she'll have opportunities to write other things. But go ahead.
Stephanie (1:05:43)
I just want to lastly say that the inside covers beautiful. I mean, they hurt me. The collared t -shirt.
the skirt that has the like frills on the bottom. my God, the S, why did we make S's like this? Everything, it's just.
Kaitlin (1:06:17)
Was it related to Snoop? I always thought it was. The S? Are we talking about the same kind of S? Six lines, yeah. Yeah, no, I thought it was Snoop. I thought it was... I loved jelly shoes. They cut my feet to no end, but... Should we talk about what we're reading? This has been a long app, but we should pop it in, I think.
Stephanie (1:06:26)
I don't know. You know, that you make with the three lines and then the three lines then you connect. Yeah. Jellies. Jelly shoes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Want me to start? I'm reading my first Abby Jimenez book.
Molly Galler (1:06:41)
We should. We should. We should. Go ahead.
Stephanie (1:06:52)
I have been following her Instagram, not actually for her, but for her dog Tess and also her Yorkies. Sorry, not sorry. And maybe that inspired me to do Huckleberry's narration reel yesterday because Tess has some pretty epic reels. So if you love dogs, definitely follow her Instagram because it's quality content. This book is called Just for the Summer and apparently it's the third. I think she does kind of what
Is it Anna Huang who does the like each story is from a different side character type thing? I'm imagining that's what the case is. I don't know for sure. This is about two characters who are both basically good luck chucks if anyone remembers that movie. I don't know how well that movie has aged because I have not watched it since when it came out.
Molly Galler (1:07:25)
Anyone our age knows it because that was like the height of Dane Cook time.
Stephanie (1:07:46)
Correct, which is also super cringe now. But anyways, this is about a guy and a girl who are both good luck chucks essentially. Everyone who dates them after they break up, they find their person. And she finds him because he has done, am I the asshole? Which if you know, my God. Thank you.
Molly Galler (1:07:50)
And I'll close it up.
Reddit.
Kaitlin (1:08:14)
Reddit.
Stephanie (1:08:17)
If you know those, some of them are hysterical and some of them are really sad and horrible. But he has written a hysterical one and she responds to him and is like, hey, guess what? I am dealing with the same thing. And so they end up kind of texting back and forth for a while, but she's a traveling nurse and he lives in Minnesota. And they kind of come up with this agreement. If we...
Molly Galler (1:08:22)
And she was very, very kind and she was very responsive and she was like, hey, guess what? I'm still a fancy thing. And so, yeah, so I think that's enough for me to add.
Stephanie (1:08:42)
date each other, will we cancel each other's curse out so that basically after we break up, we'll both find our person afterwards. As far as rom -coms go, there is great banter. I have not gotten to any sauce. I don't know if there is sauce and it's okay. Great characters, great side characters. And then it's just making me want to go back to Minnesota for pizza, even though Pizzeria Lola has not been mentioned, but it's making me think about it.
Molly Galler (1:09:07)
I have to say whoever Abby Jimenez's publicist is deserves mad props because I've seen this book everywhere. I've seen it. I've seen it everywhere. All over social media, all over all the bookish things that I follow. I feel like it's prominently displayed in bookstores across America. They're doing an amazing job of making it sort of like one of the hot books of summer.
Stephanie (1:09:11)
So.
I think I think right now it's in the New York Times bestseller list, isn't it?
Molly Galler (1:09:36)
I will talk next about the book I'm reading, which is also appearing on all of those lists. I just finished this on the plane, actually it's called the paradise problem by Christina Lauren. We've talked about Christina Lauren a lot on this podcast. It's a author duo. It's actually two women, Christina and Lauren. This story is about a guy who is one of four siblings and he is one of the heirs to a huge supermarket chain.
Stephanie (1:09:57)
A guy who ends one of four civil wars and he is one of the he heirs to a huge super -economic chain which is what is called the Westerns, obviously it's going to be a critical urgent situation. And in order to access his inheritance, he has to be happily married for at least five years. He winds up...
Molly Galler (1:10:04)
which in this book is called the Westons, but obviously it's meant to be like a Kroger type of a situation. And in order to access his inheritance, he has to be happily married for at least five years. He winds up fake marrying someone while he's still in college in order to start the process, start the timeline. Then during this five year timeline, his youngest sister gets engaged.
and is having a wedding on a private island in Indonesia. It's giving like major crazy rich Asians vibes. So his family knows that he got married without them and they think it was just like a courthouse thing because he's not like a showy person. Well, now he has to bring said wife to this wedding after three years of nobody meeting her or knowing anything about her. So this is like the fake dating trope on steroids. So they're faking the marriage.
Stephanie (1:10:50)
I love it.
Kaitlin (1:10:53)
I was going to say, what's the pull for her?
Molly Galler (1:11:00)
They have this really high stakes reason why it has to be real. And Anna, the woman who has the fake fiance, fake wife, also has some stuff going on in her life where she really needs this to go well. Like she needs to make it to the other side.
Stephanie (1:11:11)
Like has he promised her money out of it or something?
Molly Galler (1:11:23)
They sign a contract saying that she will receive a certain amount of money if she agrees to go along with this. She has a dad who is very sick and has a ton of medical bills and it's a single parent situation. And she's like, I'm doing all of this for my dad. If you've ever loved like a makeover montage, all all like tied clueless, that is basically how this book starts because this girl.
Stephanie (1:11:40)
If you ever want like a maple leaf montage on a Thai cruise, that is a good option because this girl is not going to do the same thing that Richy and Gia were doing. She has to do quite a lot of poop jumping in order to seem like she could be somebody who's actually married to him. The way they describe this may attract her to be underage.
Molly Galler (1:11:48)
is not ready to be in like the richie rich universe and has to do quite a lot of hoop jumping in order to seem that she could be somebody who's actually married to him. The way that they describe this male character Liam, I just like want him to be real because not only does he seem so incredibly attractive, but he's also crazy smart and he's like pushing against this like predestined outcome for himself because he wants to be a professor. He doesn't want to work in the grocery store. And
Kaitlin (1:12:04)
I just think it's important to be able to do it because I don't want to just do something that's not happening, but I think it's a crazy story. It's like pushing against just like pre -investing out of your own thoughts and thoughts. You don't want to just create a whole new world. You don't want to just create a whole new world.
Stephanie (1:12:04)
I just like what he's doing here because he seems so incredibly attractive but also crazy smart and he's like pushing against this predestined outcome for himself as he wants to be a professor even if he doesn't want to work in a grocery store.
Molly Galler (1:12:18)
I just loved it and it was such a good plane book. I'm sure it would be an equally great pool book, beach book, lake book. It just, between the tropical location and the high stakes of the fake relationship, you're just glued and can't recommend that enough.
Kaitlin (1:12:20)
I will be reading that shortly I believe. I am reading a totally different kind of book from what you guys are reading. I am reading a book called Talking at Night by
Claire Daverley. She's a debut author. And I got recommended this book because I'm a Sally Rooney freak. And a lot of the authors on the back of this book are kind of like, is she the next Sally? Like, Carly Fortune has a quote on the back of this book and Napa Lutano has one, Mary Beth Keene, like authors that we really like are quoted on this book saying you must read it.
It's a first love book. The two main characters are 17 years old. I'm not that far into it, but both of them kind of seem like sad sacks. Like the boy, Will, his mom just like took off on him and his sibling and he lives with his grandmother. And we don't really like know a lot from the start as to why that happened. And I think also he maybe doesn't really know.
And his hobby that keeps him out of trouble essentially is that he's really into fixing up motorbikes. And that's his thing that he does and he's really good at it. And then the female character, her name is, I believe it's Rosie. She is a songwriter and she's very into music.
Molly Galler (1:14:00)
I believe it's Rosie. She is a solid brainer and she's very good at speaking. And she has a very good sense of humor and she's great at really answering questions. She has the right to say, like, basically, what she doesn't say.
Stephanie (1:14:06)
and she's very into music and she has a twin brother who seems like he's great and like really gets her and she has parents that like basically ignore her unless she does something wrong. So she's very much like a gets good grades, keeps her head down, kind of keeps the songwriting to herself and like within the first chapter or so she like is like songwriting and like gets carried away with the time and she's like god.
Kaitlin (1:14:09)
And she has a twin brother who seems like he's great and like really gets her and she has parents that like basically ignore her unless she does something wrong. So she's very much like a gets good grades, keeps her head down, kind of keeps the songwriting to herself. And like within the first chapter or so she like is like
Molly Galler (1:14:19)
So she's very much like a, it's the tree, these are head -grown, kind of piece of song -writing herself, and I think that's what she has. But I don't know if she is like, song -writing gets through with time, it's like a robotic concept, and I'm a little bit gentle with her.
Kaitlin (1:14:32)
Songwriting and like gets carried away with the time and she's like, god I promised my mom I'd go to the gym before dinner and like I have to go do that so she's like a people pleaser and She meets this boy at a party and they have a conversation and both of them are like we're never gonna see the other person again And then it's like very clear that that that they are going to see each other again people on the internet have been like this book is so
like it's normal people, but like in a less sad way. And there's like a chapter at the beginning that hints at something bad happening. And I don't, you can't really tell who the bad thing happens to. I just know it's not the girl, but I don't know if it's like one of the parents or like her brother or Will or Will's sibling. Like I can't really tell like how it's pieced together. So.
I think it's going to be really good. The writing is very stark and beautiful, similar to Sally Rooney. And instead of having traditional dialogue, it's like a third person narrative. And it says like, then Will said this, then Rosie said that. And so that's kind of like a different format that I like. It seems really good so far.
Molly Galler (1:15:43)
I'm intrigued. If y 'all want to keep up with what we're reading, give us a follow over on Instagram where at plansarebooked. We also are gonna have another giveaway coming up. We are gonna be giving away two Colleen Hoover books. It starts with us and it ends with us. If you're into Colleen Hoover then you already know that the movie version...
Stephanie (1:16:00)
We are going to be looking at two current field books. It's Janice of Us and It Hustles with Us. If you're into comedy, and if you are into movie, that the movie version is coming out at the end of the summer, the end of August, I think. So if you'd like to have access to both of those books before they're moving jobs, we're going to look at it at the end of the year. And if you have ideas for things you'd like us to chat about, books you think we should cover, and next week, it's going to be a book that's a book that you'll love.
Molly Galler (1:16:10)
is coming out at the end of the summer, I think August something. So if you'd like to have access to both of those books before the movie drops, we're going to make that possible. And if you have ideas for things you'd like us to chat about, books you think we should cover, please shoot us an email plansarebooked at gmail .com.
Kaitlin (1:16:11)
And until next time, our plans are booked.