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 Yeah, starts are very important. Back in the day, starts were very different as well. Yep. I, I think we used to do half, three-quarter, full.
Yep.
One, two, three, four, fi... So it's a b- it's a gear change. Yep. Same. How did you feel in starts back in the day?
I loved the starts.
You start like you finish and you finish like you start.
I think if you've got the technique, the power will come. 500
start? One, two, three, four, fi... People go to sleep hearing my voice. I know. I know. Grinding that five.
How are the Padel Games going to work here in Australia when you have so many federations?
I don't know. Look at the news. 100%. The first thing about news, they're talking about World Padel Games, and they've got sports like dragon boating
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How are you, Hando?
Pretty good, Dougie. Pretty good.
Been a big week, hasn't it? It's been a big week.
Always a big week.
So I thought, uh, today we'll get a little bit, uh... You know, y- you've been doing it for 30 years. You sweep now. Um,
as- Light
man
on the back.
Exactly. And as I said, uh, in a previous podcast, you're synonymous around the world for your, um, starts.
Ah, starts. Yeah, yeah.
So I thought what better way, let's, uh, chat about starts, the different starts around the world that you have seen, your technique, the one that you bring to your club. How successful over the years has it been for you? Um, or is there a start that, you know, maybe you're cooking one up as we speak?
Oh, never, you never know. Yeah, that's a great question. Welcome, viewers. Starts. This will be, this will be, uh, reviewed and, and people's thoughts, but yeah, starts are very important- Yep ... Doug. And when you think about it, especially there's different ratings as well. So you've got the, the, the 200-meter start and, and a 500- and a 2,000-meter race.
I- in the, in the Nations World Cup Challenge or World Cup they have in China, they have a 100 meter.
Right.
So starts are very, very important and, and they're all different.
Okay.
Some, some have a 3 and 20, a 5 and 30- Yeah ... a, a building 30.
Yep.
And also it's, over the years what I've seen, uh, for me personally, the diggers, I've always had a, a, a, a building 20 or a building 30- Yes
w- which is a, which is a ramp up. And so many clubs are like, "Ah, I've..." I know their start, but it's how you do your start. And then there's a topic of- The Asian starts versus a gweilo start- Yep ... which is the, the Western start, 'cause we're a bit bigger.
Yep, gotcha. When you say about the, uh, building, how far ahead...
I mean, uh, you're telling your paddlers, I know on my paddle back in the day on the timber, I had a bit of, uh, elastic tape, you know, electrical tape, and I, I would keep that. When I'd go forward, I'd... Once, if I lost sight of that tape, it meant I've gone too far. Right. But then if I had it up too high, well, I wasn't having a go, basically.
Well, well, well, back in the day, starts were very different as well. Yep. I, I think we used to do half, three-quarter, full. Yep. And then half your blade buried. It's evolved from wooden paddles- Yeah ... to above water starts-
Right ...
to now when you've got pontoon starts, like we just had at the national titles and world titles- Yep
and probably all around the world, you've got fully buried blades. Yep. And so many different crews. For, for me, our start, how I try to, you know, over the 30 years is, is that one, two, three, four, five. So it's a b- it's a gear change. Yep, gotcha. And there's other ones that just do one, two, three, four. And look, it, it's something for the viewers, and we'd love to get your feedback on that- Yep
as well. But to get out in front is great. So for my starts-
Yep ...
it's, it's a... Whether it's a 30 building, the big transition, that's your next biggest, biggest stroke, and then you hit, hit the chug. You hit and glide.
Yeah, gotcha. Is there any teams out there, I'm guessing, you know, we saw the Chinese, uh, win last year, real quick explosive start.
Like, you, you talk about building, but then are there teams who are just like, that, that boat just gets up straight
away? W- y- absolutely. That, that's- Yeah ... a really good point. And, and teams have had to adapt.
Right.
The Thais, the Chinese, where y- you look back, even I look back, because I used to love the Indonesians, and they did, like, a building six, six and six.
Yep. And it'd be a one, two, three, four, and they'd build up. Yep. And now, for instance, the UAE team, the dig, they're, they're straight in, changing their, their leg position, where it's one, two, straight up.
Really?
Especially in the small boats. So
that is, yeah, straight out of the gates.
Straight out of the gates in, in, in...
A- as you saw in, in, in Brandenburg in Germany. Yeah. It was, it was phenomenal. But yeah, uh, crews from Europe, uh, starts are different- Seawater-
Yep ...
to the dense lake.
Yeah. Interesting.
The boats are sitting deeper.
Yeah. And I was having a conversation, I'm getting away from it, but I was having a chat to a mate of mine in Italy last year.
Mm-hmm. And, um, he s- Lake Como. Lake Como.
Yeah.
Lake Como. And he was talking about, um, the density of the water and how cold it is as well, being, you know, a fresh lake. And he talked about how unfortunately people do get into a bit of trouble there because they're used to seawater.
Right.
And once they hop into the fresh water, it's a whole different ball game.
And if you're not a strong swimmer, you know-
Mm-hmm ...
you could be cactus. But that's interesting.
Well, we, well, we saw that in Ravenna.
Yeah.
A lot of the Australian crew, there was about 24 clubs over there.
Yeah.
And sometimes you have to adapt when you're there because the boat is a bit sluggish. Right. So starts, great question.
Yeah.
Throw it all out to you guys because-
Yeah.
Let us know what your starts- It, it, it is... A- and, and then you'll probably get into it. Sorry for interjecting- No, no, no ... Dougie.
No, no.
But there's a different start for 200, a 500, and then-
That was gonna be, you just took the words out of my mouth. What are they?
Let's go through them. W- let's start with the 200. How's that?
So, so 200, you know, it's less than 50 seconds.
Yep.
The big boats are doing 39, 40 seconds.
Right.
So they're out the blocks. Yeah. Uh, uh, some of the Asian teams are just going up, up, up, up, up, up, up.
Yep.
You know, so we do a, a, a building 30, and then the, as I said before, the big transition, and then you want your, your, your, you want to be out in front.
Yep.
And then, then you want your boat, you want the hit and glide. Yeah. Because whether you're up to 18, 19 kilometers an hour and then you chug, you're at 12-
Yeah ...
and then you, as I say, you start like you finish and you finish like you start. So you, you're building it, you hit the transition- Yeah ... and then you start to build the finish again.
And you, your, your legs are locked in, your eyes, legs.
500 start.
500's similar.
Yep.
But it's a longer race.
Right.
So for me, and this is just my thoughts, I want to try and be out in front.
Yep.
You know? And, and some of the bigger teams, the powerful, they're like the, the, the big German teams.
Yeah.
The 500 they can actually pick up.
The 200s, it's once you're out in front, it's really-
Hard
to pull it ... tough to pull it back. Yeah.
Yep.
And the 2000s it's even different. So- For instance, just over the, the weekend, Doug, you, you, you've got the, the little, the, the little bird's nest or whatever they call it, and they're starting the 1000s before the first turn, and the 2000s- Yeah
you know, good old Phil Reader, you'd get three or four in and you'd go. But for me, you, you, they, they say go, but your time doesn't start until you go across that start- Go across the line. That's right ... and sometimes where they start you- Yeah ... whether that's overseas as well, it might be 20 meters or 15 meters or 30 meters before.
So I try and either- Yeah ... slowly power up, and, and, and generally it's either 12 or 15 seconds the next boat goes, Doug. Yeah. So I try and get 10 to 12 power and then hit that line
at,
at- So y-
you're,
you're up
at pace ... at, at about 12, 13, but then continue to go as far as I can incrementally. If I can get 12, 13, 14, 15 kilometers an hour, maybe 16 over an extra 30, 40 meters- Yep
I can pick up a couple of different seconds. And then, you know, then it's up to the sweeps. You, you saw- Yeah ... uh, over s- You, you know, we see globally it's a sweeps race, the, the 1000 and the 2000, and there can be some carnage in there. Sure. Goodness.
Aus Champs when they were on this year, um, I remember the turns there going into the sun.
I mean, you were sweeping yourself. The glare coming, I think, going down the regatta as you turn to the left- Mm ... you're going into the sun.
Into that
west- People were missing the buoys.
The buoys i- into that western sun.
Yep.
Uh-
So the sweeps had a lot on there, um, to the point where they couldn't see- Ducking down with the
wind
ducking down. I remember seeing, uh, Jayden from Coomera. Coomera. Jayden was r- he was literally on his knees- Yeah ... like ducking right down, getting out of the wind. But so many people missed the buoys coming around because they couldn't see.
Mm.
Because the sun was in their eyes.
A- and, and then there's all the different, um, scenarios or, or tactics from different coaches.
Yeah.
Within... Like, just because my comments, so that, that's how, that's my thoughts on starts. Well- And then I was just gonna touch on when you do hit that western sun, it's, it's almost you're starting to do a start again. It's-
Yeah. Gotcha ...
you know, there's all, we c- we could talk, we could talk for hours.
Your favorite start. I mean, not y- your, your team, when you had your team and you're at your peak and everything.
Oh, the, the, the- What, what, what team- The, the Diggers start at Stanley- Yeah ... when we have the old- Yeah ... old boats. I'd still have, it, it, it'd, it'd be almost a building, building eight and 20 and sometimes a building five.
And different conditions, as you said, different water conditions, but also different weather conditions.
Yeah.
You can get the boat up quicker.
Yep.
Um, so I like that real gear change where everyone's locked in and, and it's a grind. It's- Everything's out ... one, two, three, four, five. That's, you know- And, and o- over the-
people go to sleep, people go to sleep hearing my voice- I know. I know. ... grinding that five
evolving? Is it still starts evolving? Is there much more we can do with starts going forward? Oh, oh, oh- Or have we-
100%.
Is it now it's-
No, I, I- ...
it's set in stone?
No, not necessarily.
No?
You know, you, you're gonna get people trying, trying different, uh, you know, some of the Asian teams, the 200s- I was gonna say
they just keep going up and up and up.
Who's your favorite? What's the best you've ever seen?
You can't go past the Chinese and- I was gonna say ... and, and, and the, the Filipinos used to have a great, "One zero, two zero, three zero, four zero, five zero." It's like, what, they're going up in 50s? Like, what's going on?
And we're, we're, we're already setting into our chug and, and, and they're, and they're still going up.
Yeah. Gotcha.
Uh, but, but yes, something like... And they're lighter.
Yeah.
And, and that's also, you know, I think some of the, uh, your, your hot takes or your 60 seconds with Dougie's when you're asking those questions, you know?
Yeah. Grind or sprint or, or- Yeah, that's it. Distance ... or that distance. Some of the big, like, some of the European teams, like, uh, the Ukraine at the last previous world titles- Yeah ... they were amazing on the 2000s.
Oh, yeah.
Just big units. Just big boys. Lots of power
Into the grind, going up, upriver- Yeah. .. so to speak.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, but you, you talk about the... We'll go back to the starts, 'cause it w- it is an amazing question and I think a lot of viewers will do it. So, and to be fair- Well, yeah ...
it's a spectacle The starts, oh
my
goodness You know, you, you get, you get- Water spraying
up with the wind. Like, some of the stuff that you can look at back, it, it, it's unbelievable
But you get yourself to any regatta and go down on the start line and position yourself there for half an hour, you're gonna see some great footage.
Mm. And when they, they come getting out of the blocks, oh my God, it's so good.
Well, well, well let's deep dive even further.
Yeah.
The starts, the starter.
Yeah.
Sometimes they're, they're, you know, the boats go in, they're there, they're waiting in the- In the
little pocket
thing in the, yeah ... in, in, in, in the pontoon there.
Yeah. And, and, and different pontoons have different, uh, things coming out, sleeves. Yeah. So there won't be only, might be the sweep when you're holding. It might be boat two move back. Okay, we're g- so a boat could be moving back-
Yeah ...
when our paddlers... And at the starts, I think it's a coach's obligation to really get it through to them.
'Cause i- if crews aren't switched on, Doug-
Mm ...
you can miss a start and you're out.
Well, yeah.
You're out.
And you saw them,
what was happening. You know, because some, some of it's progressive times.
Yeah. No, 100%, 100%.
How did you feel in starts back in the day when you were a bit, you know- Well, ... younger and, uh, fleet of foot?
I loved the starts. But you know, like you said, I was up there. I think you-
We never lost- A lot of my- We never lost starts.
No. Adelaide 2006, that was one of my- That's right. Jump-
jumped in the B boat. My- Can we
stroke? It's one of my f- best memories. And, uh- That was good. And we won ... I always had the... And we won.
We,
we won that one. That was for the Queensland team. I remember that.
I was paddling, I think I was second left, and I was, I've always liked paddling on the left-hand side of the boat. But, uh, yeah, I was under your starts and, uh, we won the gold that day. Yeah.
Yeah. Well, I was, I was, I was stroke that day. I used to stroke back in the, when I was younger in Hong Kong.
Me, myself and Peter Ahern. He was 6, 6'4" and I'm 6'2". So-
Well, you jumped back in the boat at Aus Champs this year.
Uh, no, no, at, at
the States. At the S- Uh, it was at the States, was it? At the States.
At the States. Not gonna get me back at Aus Champs. I was sweeping Aus Champs.
Yeah. Oh, there you go. It was
good.
But yeah, starts are, that, that's a, a phenomenal, um, question. And, and, and we will ask people all around the world because... So let's, let's even- Think about it. You've, you've got the, the small boat starts.
Yep.
Then you've got, in Australia, you've got the small boat starts, but they're in big boats. So the lighter people, younger like crews-
Yep
compared to in a, in a big 20s boat. But if those light crew were in a small boat- Yeah ... they'd probably be better than where I'm putting some bigger guys in- Yeah ... 10 of the bigger guys in a big boat, but a 10 race.
Right.
And then you think of the categories. You've got your schools divisions, your university-
Yep
prem's- Yep ... then your senior A, senior B, senior C, and obviously the, the, the, the para dragons, uh, the breast cancer paddlers. They'll all have different adaptive starts. Different types.
Yeah,
and- And that's up to their coaches.
100%. And, you know, guys, girls, we're all, we- we're, we're all built differently and, you know, y- injury- We are built differently
injury comes into it too. If you're doing it wrong, technique. Um, if your technique is incorrect, you're either not gonna be part of the team or you're gonna hurt yourself, um, and you'll get an injury.
Well, let me get your take on it. I think some of your hot takes that you used to question, 60 Seconds with Doug, it w- it, it was technique versus power.
Power. That's right. So
let's think about that. Technique versus power- Yeah ... at a start.
Yep. Or as Big Papa said, fitnique. Fitnique. Fitnique. Hey, Papa.
For me, my start, I don't wanna see any white water.
Yeah. Gotcha.
I wanna feel, whomp, on the back.
Yeah.
But then you get some of the Asian teams and it's just white water going everywhere.
Yeah, everywhere.
I think if-
Fury ...
I think if you've got the technique, the power will come. It'll come, it'll come just n- naturally. Um, and- Yes ... and not power like, you know, Chet, you know, not talking like power as in muscle. I'm talking as power as in everything's just moving perfectly. Everything's in sync.
And when, when everything's in sync, the power just comes.
Well, well that's it. At a start, you want everyone's legs together, everyone's eyes, legs, their blades at the same. You don't want inverted paddles.
Right.
You invert it and you pull the water down, the boat'll go down. Yeah. You want that boat hitting forward and that hit and glide.
Yeah. It's a beautiful feeling- Oh, it is ... when, when, when, when a sweep can feel that hit and glide.
Yeah.
And, and, and different ratings. You know, some of the Chinese are up near 1- 120 strokes per minute at the start. Well, that's- The diggers are up at, up 110 now.
Oh, that's cr- it's ra- it's awesome, innit?
You know, and
they're in
Dubai.
And they're in UAE. Yeah. Yeah. I've n- I've noticed a lot of attention, and this is staying on the starts, I'm not going away from it- weight of the boat and the paddlers' weights. And I saw a lot of it with your crew, um, through the emails and that, you know, asking, "What's your weight? What's your weight?" Now, when we were at our last regatta, you and I were standing on the sidelines, and I s- pointed out to you, um, the boat was a bit how you going.
It was a bit nose down, bow down where... Yeah. Mm. And I thought it just looks like they'd thrown everyone in the boat, hadn't really thought about it.
Mm.
And when the start happened, oh my God, did it make a difference. The, the other teams that were right on, 'cause this mob, you know, they, they were slow out of the gates.
You could see their boat looked slow. Mm. They looked slow and, um-
And that affects the starts. So-
And that affects the start ... if, if you've got- The technique wasn't there ...
if you've got your... Well, we try to have it within a couple of kilos of each other if, if not perfect.
Yeah.
And then you want the front half and the back half.
So you've got a, a, a, a drummer that could be 60 kilos or a drummer that could be 40 kilos and a, a 90-kilo sweep or a 60-kilo sweep.
Right.
And you want the trim of the boat.
Yep.
You don't want... And what we saw was the, the, the front heavy. Yeah. And then when it's coming into the wind, when it turns around-
Yep
and the bow w- and the water's coming over, it absolutely- Yeah ... can affect. I just- So that's another great point, Dougie ...
and that is, once again, it's the start and it's the technique. It's just the boat looked slow. The team looks like... There just wasn't much effort going in. But anyway- Mm ... that was up to them.
A-
and, and each- Each crew sets up different, especially within the 10-person format, whether it's open, mixed or women's- Yep ... of where they sit in the boat. Right. Do they start off in t- seat two? Do they spread them seat one, three, five, seven, and, and, and nine? Yeah. Do they, do they all block them up? Yeah. Te Waka, Waggy has hers all locked up.
Sure. It's all that power. You know, is there an outrigger set up?
Yeah, gotcha.
That's another topic coming, paddlers and outriggers. Yes,
yes. Other,
other paddle sports coming across.
Well,
that's- They've got amazing starts as well, I tell
ya ... that's gonna be one of our hot takes.
Oh, is it?
Yep. Oh. Coming up, coming up.
So all right, Nick, I just wanted to get that start. You, uh, you love your starts. Um-
I love, I, I, I love that build, that gear change.
Yep. You know? And, uh-
Some people reckon they've got, "Ah, we know the digging sta-" But it's how you do it. Yep. And it's how you train it. Yeah. And, and, and very important, for a tip for clubs out there, you should go all round the world, before they go, put their paddles down, sit them down and go, "Right, I'm gonna say paddles ready, attention, go," and you count.
Yeah. You count that start, whatever it may be, and you will be surprised how off every one of your paddles are.
Yeah, gotcha. So there, Dougie. Well, I think if you're next at your regatta, go up to the start line, go and spend five minutes up there with a coffee, and watch the starts because it is a spectacle.
It's a great spectacle of our sport. Um, and Nick, thanks for your insight on starts today. That's it. Paddles ready. Paddles ready. See ya.
Okay, this is 60 Seconds with Dougie. We're still down here in Singapore- Woo! At the Dragon Boat Nursery. We're with Leonard. Seems like a bit of a character. We're gonna see how he goes. Let's go, Leonard. Worst excuse you've heard for not turning up to training?
Uh, I saw some lightning.
Downwind or grind?
Uh, grind.
Early morning training or sleep in?
Early morning.
What's more important, fitness or technique?
Technique, sprinkled with some
fitness.
Carbon fiber or wooden paddle?
Carbon fiber.
Coffee before or after training?
All the time. Before, during, and after.
Biggest talker on the boat?
Mina.
Sprint or distance?
Sprint.
Beers or lemonade after a regatta?
Beers, beers, beers.
Favorite regatta you have competed in?
Uh, DBS.
Advice you would give to a new paddler hopping in a boat for the first time?
Never stop trying, and never be embarrassed about your technique.
And Leonard, if I wasn't a paddler, I'd be...?
A couch potato.
Beautiful. That's 60 Seconds with Dougie, and that's Leonard.
Thank you.
Well, Micko, it's that time of the day. Hando's hot take. Oh, yeah, I, I've got an inkling of, uh- ... what we were talking about. Well- And you've, you've, you've- Exactly ... sort of gone it straight. I gave you a bit of a heads up. A heads up, wow. And it's- After the great announcement- 100% ... Padel Games ... the, the World Padel Games.
Wow. And we are in with the bid. Okay. Um, and we're going to get plenty more info, hopefully in the sport Okay, I'm taking my hat off before we're
getting ready.
How are the Padel Games going to work here in Australia when you have so many federations and ev- there's a lot of egos. Ooh. There's a lot of headbutting. There has been, past and present. IDPF, Padel Australia, Padel Queensland, ICF. I mean, you might as well throw in Paddles Ready because we're the ones bringing the-
we're the ones bringing the sport to you. We're gonna
bring them all together.
So let's call us a new federation. Yeah. Because I can't see this myriad, if that's a word, and this bowl of soup of four federations all trying to get on and make this world games the best it can be here in Australia. I know.
How's it gonna work, Hando? I don't know.
It's up to the viewers. You guys have got to help us out here, 'cause w- I'm not answering this. Where,
where dragon boating, where do you see dragon boating- Well,
well, well, well, this is the thing Paddle Australia, which are ICF, they're putting on the games-
Yeah ...
with, with the government and where- wherever it's gonna be i- i- if they win the bid, which will be fantastic.
They'd probably have to work w- w- with Dragon Boat Queensland- Yep ... and Paddle Queensland to get the Dragon Boat section in it. IDBF would work with Dragon Boat Queensland-
Yep ...
and Paddle Queensland
and Paddle Australia because the, the, the, the, the Paddle Australia don't have the, the Dragon Boat even here, the ICF aren't here with dragon boating.
Right.
So you've got the experience, the officials to set up the races, the starters, all of that, and if they want dragon boating in the games, they're gonna have to talk to Dragon Boat Queensland and IDBF and Paddle Australia, Paddle, Paddle w- which, which, which they're, they're going, they, they've been doing.
They need an MOU to do that, and- Yeah ... 2030, Dougie.
Yep.
It's just around the corner, mate. We- 100% ... we sneeze, you know, and, and, and Paddle's ready or into their, into their i- i- in 2027.
I mean, look at, look at the, the games just started at Turn Soil at the, uh, stadium, the new stadium, uh- I know ...
yesterday.
Yeah.
It's, it's, it's only six years away, but it's off topic. The hot take, Hando's hot take. Hando's hot take. Can it work?
Yes, it can.
It can work? We can get
our paddles
ready. Are you gonna get the four of them together or- And the
outriggers
as well ... you're gonna have to bang some heads?
Jeff Fox can come and be a mediator.
Well, as I said, we could be the next generation federation. I mean, we're the ones getting it out there. We're the ones promoting it. Hopefully, you know, we'll be commentating, so, uh, Paddles Ready Federation. Sounds pretty good to me.
The PRF.
Well, I'm glad you think that everyone can get on. Like you said, they've done the old, um, you know, th- they've come together this far.
What? The bid has been put in.
Yeah, and-
But it's going to be interesting ...
I think July, August, they, they, they announce it.
Okay. Well, that's- So- ... Hando's Takeout, so thanks mate. I hope
that- Hando's Hand Out of the Day ...
I hope that wasn't too, um, I didn't take too much skin off there. I know y- you get on with everybody in the sport, so-
Well,
so you should
I just, it needs to be asked.
Look at the news.
100%. The
first thing about news, they're talking about World Paddle Games, and they've got sports like dragon boating.
Yep.
That's unreal. That was the first thing that came out of the reporters, not just the one reporter. Yeah. I think it was every news channel and the radio.
Mato was talking about, actually we'll get on with Mato.
Yeah. So anyway, that's Hando's Takeout.
Thank you.
Thank you very much. I'm
Hando.
I'm Dougie.
And we are
Paddles Ready. Paddles
Ready.
Another one done, Hando.
That took a lot of energy out of me, that one. That was. I don't know, uh, I don't know how I'm feeling.
I don't know how you guys are feeling, the viewers out there.
Well-
What have we got to get them to do?
Get them to subscribe. Jump on YouTube. Jump on
Spotify.
YouTube, Spotify. Yeah. Yeah. If you don't want to watch us, you can listen to us.
Listen
to us. But, uh, jump on the website, subscribe, do what you have to do, and-
In your car, in your ear.
Yeah. We're everywhere. That's it. We're Paddles Ready, and we'll see you soon.
Paddles Ready.
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