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What is going on, everybody?
Welcome to the Clydesdale
Media Roundtable or
Thursday lunch with the Clydesdale crew,
whatever you want to call it.
But it's Mamie and I today.
Hopefully,
we'll have the full crew back next week.
But what's going on, Mamie?
Not much.
It's my off day for work and
my off day for the gym.
And I just had a massage.
So, I mean, I do maintenance, body work,
massages.
But it was timely because
yesterday I had a hell of a
workout where I met Pukie.
Ooh.
You don't usually puke.
No,
and it wasn't like I puked because I
was working out so hard.
It was that I got framlung
from the workout, and then that made me,
the coughing made me bleh.
God.
God.
so yeah I uh I was kind of
leafing through instagram
and becky harsh who we know
works crossfit hq did
yesterday's crossfit.com
workout and I was like that
is an amy workout what was
it and I will do it so it
starts with you take your
rucksack okay and you do uh
forty shoulder to overhead
No.
Ground overhead.
Okay.
Ground overhead.
Okay.
Your rucksack.
Yeah.
You rock a mile.
Okay.
Then you do it.
Do you take the rucksack off
and you do thirty ground overhead?
Okay.
Rock another mile.
Do twenty ground overhead
and finish with a mile.
Yeah.
She did it.
She lives in Colorado.
She did it as a hike.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So she hiked through the mountains,
came across deer.
She filmed the whole thing.
That's cool.
You got to go watch it on Instagram.
And I was like,
that is so Amy to go out
into the woods and do like
a rock with some shouldered
overhead every mile.
I love that.
Yeah.
I bet your shoulders were like,
I bet they fire fire shoulders.
Yeah.
I just, I just thought it was like,
I've got to tell her cause
that is right up her alley.
You're always looking for
something to get outside.
Literally in my car that I
drive around with all the
time is my weighted vest
and my hiking shoes.
They're already in the car.
Cause you never know when
you just need to pop over
and find a trail.
And Murph can stare at you and no rep you.
Oh my gosh.
Seriously.
Did you see his eyes in that video?
Like,
Lex is in the chat.
She has two doodles that
know rep her all the time.
Yeah.
I mean, they're so judgy.
Yeah.
Crazy.
So if you do it this week,
you'll have to tell us next
week how it went.
Okay.
Yeah.
But go check out Becky's post.
Cause you'll, you'll love it.
Like she's probably.
Ten feet from deer.
Yeah.
I love that.
So.
Yeah, that's pretty cool.
nice well this weekend um
one of our teammates
carolyn prevo is going to
be competing at crash
crucible in spartanburg
south carolina so we are
rooting for carolyn that's
quite a far travel it is
yeah but it's such a well
put together competition
and the way jr howell um
He uses so many different
odd objects and so many
different things that you
don't get to see unless
you're at the games.
So they have a sandbag pill,
which is a very taut
sandbag and no handles,
and it's kind of rubberized.
They have to do like a
hundred thrusters with that.
At what weight?
I don't know exactly.
I know you asked the details.
Let me, I'll pull it up real quick.
Wow.
The workouts, where are the workouts?
Okay.
Let me share my Instagram screen.
Carolyn just did high rocks.
She did.
Which one is,
I think it's midline sadness.
Maybe midline sadness.
Of course.
Nope, not that one.
They have all these like fancy schmancy.
I don't know which event it is now.
Let me go the other direction.
I don't know what I'm doing.
Okay, well.
If Lex knows what that one is.
Pilgatory.
That's it.
Duh.
So it's fifty pill thrusters
at a hundred and seventy.
So a hundred for men.
Yeah.
Fifty chest of bars.
Then a fifty meter pill lunge.
Anyhow.
Then fifty pill thrusters.
So a hundred pill thrusters.
Barf.
Barf.
What's the time cap there?
I can't.
Eighteen.
Eighteen minutes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So a lot of people have previewed this.
We don't need to preview the event,
but there's a lot of big names there.
It's what I consider to be
probably the top tier
mid-major in the sport now.
You know,
if you're not Rogue or
Waterpalooza or the games,
like Crash Crucible is right there.
is there,
do you have to qualify to compete
So if you are a games athlete,
you may get an invite,
but there is a qualifier.
And so there's a lot of the
semifinalists that we have
interviewed over the years
are competing there,
as well as Colton Mertens, Fisa Goffey,
Carolyn Prevost, Sam Stewart,
Chris Ibarra, Nick Matthew,
Olivia Kerstetter, tons, tons of people.
and it's going to be fun.
Caroline Stanley, yeah,
a lot of games athletes as
well as a lot of,
but they do the P scoring,
or not P scoring, Z scoring,
which is where in traditional scoring,
you finish first, you get a hundred,
second, ninety-four, whatever.
This one,
if you finish way behind first place,
you may get seventy-five
points instead of ninety-four.
they look at the gap between.
Okay.
Yeah.
And so if you dominate an event,
you can really get a lead.
Nice.
Um,
I didn't like how it played out last year,
but we'll give it another try this year.
See if they need some tweaks
and see what that looks like.
And this year they've said
they're going into the negative.
So if you are way back,
you could actually get
negative points for, um,
for an event.
Corey Leonard says it's
pronounced like Pez.
He just made that up,
but tell everybody else
what started as P scoring,
it went to Z scoring.
And so I get confused sometimes.
Yeah.
Oh, shoot.
Yeah.
I just heard on the TTT
podcast from Max that they
are going negative this
year from Lydia Fish and Sam Stewart.
But Lex says no.
Maybe that, maybe not.
Okay.
So that was my source for the negative.
How about our boy, James Townsend?
Yeah, so bad.
So was he in a comp?
Did that happen at a comp?
Yeah.
And he was away from home.
Yeah.
I knew that part, but I was like,
I didn't know if he was
just training with some
people or if it was a comp.
Yeah.
So we had to get on a plane and come home,
then have the surgery.
I reached out to him yesterday,
just sending him a message.
And he responded back and just said,
it's been a cloudy last couple of days,
but thanks for the perspective.
And
And that sort of thing.
So he's such a good guy.
I know his post was so sad.
I know.
That's why I was like, I need to,
I want to send him some little love.
I know I'm nobody to him,
but I would want him to descend.
And he,
every time I message him about something,
he always responds.
Yeah.
He's, he's really good.
Yeah.
When I interviewed him,
he said he viewed himself
as the people's coach.
People had questions about
how to do a lift.
He would answer them.
He believed it was such a
gift for him to be able to coach.
He would coach anybody who asked.
Yeah.
Online or whatever.
And so, yeah, that was crazy.
Yeah.
Sucks.
I hated it.
Well, with Corey in the chat,
we've got to say he got an
invite to Legends.
Ooh!
It's official.
I guess those video
reviewers agreed that his
reps were legit.
So he now has to learn how to swim.
Okay.
He did a swimming event at MFC last year.
Not his best performance.
Hmm.
So now he said he's getting
a month's whatever
membership to the YMCA so
he can start working on his swimming.
Yep.
Maybe you should coach him up on swimming.
I told him I wish I lived
closer because I would.
It's just tough when you
can't see the person.
Right.
And videoing in a swimming
pool isn't the best.
Yeah.
It's an odd idea.
Yeah.
So, but super happy for him.
He put in so much work this year.
Uh,
it was good to see him make it to
legends.
So that's pretty awesome.
I mean, to get older and get better,
that's pretty, it's pretty sweet.
So props to you, Corey.
Uh,
I did want to highlight something Chad
Schroeder did.
I thought this was super cool.
He put together top
performances from the
Masters and teens at the
twenty twenty four CrossFit Games.
And he also did it for the
adaptive division too.
And you can go to his
LinkedIn account or not LinkedIn.
It's on his LinkedIn.
Yeah.
Instagram.
Go to the bio.
He has a link tree where it
has all the different
things that he's done.
but he, um, and there's just an example.
This is a list of the all first timers,
all first timers to the games.
Okay.
And then like,
he does a thing on Jason
grub consecutive gold medal
tied for second overall for
most masters championships.
The most to Susan Clark was six.
And he just kind of explains
everything down.
Uh,
Andrea Nistler being one of
four CrossFit athletes with
multiple division championships.
Rich Froning, Samantha Briggs,
Lisa Mickelson,
and Andrea Nistler are the
only four to win in two different.
So they've won team and Masters.
Rich won individual team and
Sam won individual Masters.
So stuff like that.
It's really interesting.
I really appreciated
everything he put in to
this and really enjoyed
reading it because like Will Morad,
greatest margin of victory
with eighty eight points
ever in a Masters competition.
So pretty good.
Yeah, I love it.
But yeah,
really fun to kind of read and
wanted to highlight him
because he put a lot of
work into that and people
should go check it out.
So check out Chad
Schroeder's Instagram account.
It's in his link tree and he
has adaptive teens and
masters all listed.
So cool.
We got cat in the chat.
So here's my question for you.
So Rich Froning put out
there that he thought the
coolest idea for an
in-house comp was to take
the five best people from
every class time.
And then on a Saturday,
have an in-house comp
because you never see each other.
Yeah, yeah.
So it's a way for everybody
to kind of come together in
a comp and cheer for your six a.m.
class or your five a.m.
class or your four thirty p.m.
class and kind of cheer on
the best athletes from each class.
Thoughts?
I like that idea.
I like that it's a community event.
And doing that, um,
how are you measuring the
fittest once just by what
their scores are on beyond
the whiteboard?
I mean, like I would have,
or whatever their,
their logging is and like
over what period of time, like,
how are you coming up with
these five people?
Leave it to you to,
to go all into the details.
I like details.
I like the idea.
I'm just saying that brings
up questions for me.
That's all.
Um, yeah, I think, I don't know.
Yeah.
Because part of who I am,
like in figuring out the
details is I also, okay, sorry.
Um, part of the, that is,
I also look at like, wow,
I wonder if there's other
people that will feel like,
like borderline athletes
that want to participate, but aren't yet.
So I just, yeah, that's all.
Yeah.
And you know, if it's a lift,
you may have a stronger athlete.
If it's a gymnastics event, you may have,
that may be a different group.
Like it would,
it could be different
throughout and you could
even like have a team where
you pick like the strongest person,
the most gymnastics person, whatever.
and hell you can make it
whatever you want.
You could have like the best
scaled athlete, the best, whatever,
and have different.
So,
but each class would have the same
opportunity to, to fill that team.
I don't know.
I just,
I thought it was an interesting
concept because he's so right.
Like when you go to the four
thirty PM class,
you don't know the six PM class.
You don't know the six AM class.
You don't know the ten AM mother's class,
right?
Like,
Yeah.
But I guess I feel like that
we kind of do that in the open.
Yeah, I guess.
But even that you can
schedule times on Saturday
morning or Friday night or right.
This is like a one event.
Yeah.
One day everybody has to
come at the same time.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think it is fun for sure.
So, okay.
Yeah.
Well, the only thing I've left is, um,
talking elite fitness did a,
an interview with Mitch
Bragg from the PFAA.
And you know,
that's my favorite subject to talk about.
I know.
Um,
And what's, I don't know why they do this.
So they do.
Pause for a second, pause for a second,
because I would like to
speak on what Elise just said here.
Rich isn't worried about details.
He'll have his crew work
those out for him.
Yes, I agree with you.
But what I would like to
work on with that is I also
feel like I'm going to say,
I'm going to say it right here.
And this it's about their
programming because we've
been using their programming.
And while I like their programming,
there are a number of,
clerical and errors
constantly that I feel like
impact and that they send
out a lot of their
information and it's in all
these different spaces and
it's not like a streamlined
way to send out those details.
So I wish they had a better
system of communication and
they were more concerned
about the details because
it does affect my daily life.
So, sorry.
I hear you.
Yes.
I value your input,
but I think that that is
not exclusive to mayhem.
I don't disagree with you on that,
but I think that if
sometimes I wonder if Rich
really knew as much as
there are those challenges,
if he could get things to
tighten up or make some tweaks.
I just feel like, again,
errors happen and things like that,
but I think there's a level
of professionalism and
there's a level of when you
are purchasing a product
that if you're constantly
having to remark on and
point out where these
errors are and challenges,
that that's really frustrating.
Jay Burch says,
headed to Amarillo to judge
it to eight Oh six classic.
Rich is supposed to be there.
Would you like for me to tell him?
I would like to talk to
Darren myself sometimes just to be honest,
just to be like,
let's work on communication
styles and see if we can
tighten up how to clearly
and effectively communicate.
Elise says, please Jeff and record it.
Okay.
So back to the PFAA, my favorite subject.
Okay.
Sorry.
So
He was there at the tier cup.
This was done at the tier cup.
One of my frustrations with
Talking Leaf Fitness is
they release everything audio first.
So this is on YouTube,
but it's audio only.
So you can't see anything.
And I don't know why that
bothers me because usually
I just let it play in the
background anyway.
But for some reason,
a black screen bothers me.
But they asked what their
role was at the tier cup.
And he said that they, that he and grace,
their chief operating
officer and some athletes
not competing reviewed the
programming and gave input
on like positioning of kettlebells gave.
And he gave a couple examples.
I find that that gets a
little murky when you have athletes,
even if they're not competing,
looking at programming
because of camps and
friends and that it just
gets to be like a weird line,
but I'm not going to dwell on it.
I think that whatever, that's fine.
He also did say that they had talked to
about what their
positionings were going forward,
that they had talked to the
top-thirty athletes,
and they learned that not
everybody is prepared to
talk about what their wants
and needs are publicly at this point.
And one thing that just
caught me is they've talked
to the top-thirty athletes.
Why just the top thirty?
You've said on Brent and Pat
have said on other shows
there's a hundred and some
members but only ninety voting members.
Now you're talking top
thirty which if it's men
and women you're talking sixty.
But there were people that
that didn't want to talk publicly.
And I think what's happening though,
is the more that they're
ambiguous about all of this
and the more the athletes
keep coming out and saying they,
they don't agree with what they're saying,
like Saxon, like Ariel,
then Chris Ibarra last
night on the spin said that
he was a rookie.
He didn't really have much
say in what they were doing.
I think like the more that that happens,
the less impact they have
as a representative of all athletes.
They also said that they
pressure test some of their
ideas with sponsors.
So if they have an idea of
something they want to do,
they're running it past
some of the major sponsors
to see if there will be
kickback from them before they say it,
which I'm going back and
forth whether I think
that's a good idea or a weird idea.
So I think I need to think
on that a little bit more
because I just listened to
this maybe two hours ago.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think I need to digest that more.
He also said that they were
called out by the
organizers of NorCal for
putting out the three demands.
because they had made an
agreement to partner with
them on their swim event.
And the organizer said to them,
when you guys put out a
statement like that,
and we have published you as a partner,
all of that then comes on to us.
It reflects on them.
Yeah.
And he admitted that they
did not think about how
that might affect people
they partner with.
Well, okay.
That's kind of a big deal.
Yeah.
Um, he also kept bringing up all this,
like a storyline season.
So like week one,
you have this and then week two,
you have this and it just,
it moves systematically.
And he doesn't mean like it
has to happen every week,
but like event one to event
two to event three in a storyline fashion,
um,
And Tommy actually did a
really good follow-up saying like,
we all want a storyline
season and that's been said for years,
but saying it and doing it
are two drastically different things.
Right.
And he said, well,
we're just trying to get
things in motion so that if
we can't go down this, we need
And then it became a word
salad where I just – I
don't – I just jumbled
words where I – he was
saying stuff without saying anything.
Yeah, yeah.
But then the final thing I'm
going to bring up from this
is he said that they're
actually in talks with
events for next season.
That if CrossFit does not make any move –
by a certain time.
And then they asked him about a timeline.
He didn't have one, but by,
by a needed time that they,
they will have an
alternative season for
athletes to go through.
Okay.
These other events.
Alternative season.
Okay.
So.
And season in, in quotes, because.
Like, I don't think it would be a, hey,
you qualify here to go to here.
It would be events they
could participate in to fill the season.
Sure, sure.
But the more they talk,
the less I am encouraged
that they're truly
representing all the athletes.
Mm-hmm.
And not that they don't have,
not that some of these ideas aren't good,
but like when,
when Lauren and Tommy were
asking follow-ups,
they didn't have any more to the idea.
It's,
it's one thing to come up with the idea,
but then there has to be a
solution to get you to implementation.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, so right now they're just ideas,
but there's not solutions
to back that up.
Yeah.
And we had heard rumor last
week that there would be
the investigation completed
and nothing this week so far.
No,
and I just saw something that Carolyn
Lambry posted,
but I didn't read all the way through it.
But just, I think she was part of,
was she part of the,
she contributed to part of
the investigation or was
that a different thing?
So she's one of the coaches
that work with the PFAA.
Okay, yeah.
So her and I know Justin
Kotler are big in the PFAA.
Mm-hmm.
So I don't I didn't see what she posted.
I can pull it up if you Yeah, let's do it.
Let's pull it up.
Right.
Do you know which one it is?
It says time and it says
October eighth mark the two
month anniversary.
of Lazar's death.
Okay.
This one?
Yep.
The day before that,
I was speaking with Controlled Strategies,
the company hired by
CrossFit to investigate Event One.
It took me three to four
weeks to set up that
meeting after receiving
their contact information.
I know everybody wants answers now.
I do too.
But I also understand that
everyone is living with
this and will be ready to
speak at different times.
The meeting went well,
but I was nervous about
reliving and discussing
that fatal morning.
To my fellow coaches that
were there August eighth,
your insight will be invaluable.
If you were on the fence
like I was about sharing
your experience of event one with them,
DM if you want to know more about mine.
P.S.
to all the fans,
please remain patient and respectful.
We all love the sport.
No one wants to see it go away.
So that just made me think like,
it's not as right around
the corner as we think, you know?
Yeah.
If they're still trying to
get eyewitness accounts and stuff.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That was very well written.
Yeah.
I mean, again, I think we're all just like,
we just want to know.
And it's because I think we, a lot,
so many people need that to
move forward and move on.
Because there's so many
unresolved thoughts and
feelings about it that
people are looking for that to move on.
But I think, you know,
we've been talking about it
takes time for it to be done thoroughly.
And it's hard when you're
not getting to see all the
steps and processes of how
that happens to kind of
understand more about it.
You know, you're just like,
what the heck is taking so long?
Yeah.
And we actually talked about this Sunday,
like when it comes out,
then we all have to relive it as well.
Right.
Like those of us who were there,
like that means if I'm
going to read this report redacted or not,
like I have to relive that moment again.
And it was not easy to get over.
Right.
And, and,
and I wasn't even a major player in it.
Like she was, the athletes were,
I can't even imagine.
I mean,
I talked to Boz a few times that weekend.
He was devastated.
I was hurt and I was sad.
Boz was wrecked.
I can't even imagine what
they went through.
And now they're having to go
back through it.
Yeah.
It's retraumatized testimony giving,
and then it's going to be
released and that's going
to open in the wound again.
And then there's going to be
chatter and opinions.
You know what I mean?
Like, I feel like we've,
although there has been
some differing opinions, I feel like,
you know,
CrossFit has kind of come back
together again, kind of, you know,
like being supportive with each other.
And I feel like it's going
to open that wound up to
where people are going to separate again.
Yeah.
Because whatever you feel,
I think you're going to be
able to read that in this document.
Yeah.
Right.
So you just only,
it's just going to
strengthen your opinion.
Yeah.
Right.
So.
Cause usually these things
don't come out like super definitive.
Unless you watch the McMahon
documentary and then some
of that stuff was super definitive.
Yeah.
I haven't gotten to that one
yet because I'm still
working my way through the
Menendez brothers.
Listen, I have to consume the content.
Yeah.
Okay.
Then that like, thirty years old now.
It is.
Yeah.
Yeah.
At least I completely agree with you.
Yeah.
Completely.
Yep.
Can't say it better.
Going to Pennsylvania this weekend.
Visit your mom?
Daughter.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
She got a new job,
so we're going to celebrate.
She got a job in a private studio.
Awesome.
I'm driving to Athens today
to pick up my daughter for fall break.
But my only agreement into
doing this was that I will drive there,
but she has to drive home.
I'm not spending three hours
of my day driving.
I will go get her and then she can drive.
You can make it there in an
hour and a half.
Yeah.
I'm not speeding either.
It literally go look up on Waze right now.
I'll tell you.
One hour, thirty minutes.
How long did it take you?
Two hours.
What the heck are you doing?
I'm just kidding.
Okay.
Been watching MLB, Scott?
I am.
I've been a closet Mets fan
for a long time.
And the fact that they're
actually doing really well
and last night clinched
their spot in the NL DS CS
and LCS champion,
the nationally championship series.
Super stoked.
Francisco Lindor with the
grand slam last night was awesome.
My Pirates are still number
one in my heart,
but they are never going to
make the playoffs run by
that clown that owns them.
So I am just adopting the
Mets because Bobby Bonilla
used to play for them and
he was my favorite player ever.
NLDS.
Yes.
Yes.
Well, that's what they just won, Elyse.
They won the National League
Division Series.
Now they're in the National
League Championship Series,
which is the NLCS.
And they will play either
the Dodgers or the Padres,
whoever wins game five.
She dreams of a day when her Reds make it.
Just like us Pirates fans, Elise,
you'll be waiting a very, very long time.
That was an echo.
All right.
Well, with that,
I think that's all we have today.
Yeah,
get outside and enjoy the beautiful
weather.
Yeah, do your rucking ground overhead.
You know what I'm going to do?
I'm going to ruck and mow the lawn.
Not kidding.
So I got that new mattress a
couple weeks ago?
Yes, Elise, every Saturday.
Yeah.
I'm going to lie to you, Elise.
She starts to watch it and
then gets nervous and then
just starts walking around
doing other things to get out her nerves.
Okay.
Scott is a hundred percent right.
A hundred percent right.
And then her husband and son
yell so loud she can tell
what's happening in the
game and doesn't even need
to be inside the house.
That's a hundred percent also accurate.
Correct.
And just some cleanup items.
Episode five is out for the
behind the scenes of the Masters.
Episode six is just about
ready to go for Monday release.
And it's a good one.
These get better as we go.
And I'm so pumped for you
guys to see that one
because the conversations
get longer and more
detailed and more fun.
um so yeah that's gonna be
fun and if you are fans of
haley mario and her husband
josh they're a big part of
episode six but also
they've both been asked to
participate in the masters
division of crash crucible
and I don't know if I've
ever seen josh compete he's
only ever coached haley or
haley adams and so it'll be
interesting to see him out
on the competition floor
Uh, yeah,
everybody was making fun of me
trying to get the guy that
didn't speak English to talk to me.
Five.
Sorry.
He was warming up and I'm like,
what are you trying to loosen up?
And he didn't understand.
And he just pointed.
That was it.
That was my whole.
Love it.
Yeah.
So, yeah.
So that's coming out.
Um,
Good luck to Carolyn this weekend.
Kill it.
Yeah.
We love you.
We want you to crush it.
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