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Your backstage pass to the world of surfing, hosted by MC and commentator Terry “Tappa” Teece. From pro surfers and legends of the sport to shapers, innovators and anyone with an epic story and a love for the ocean—The Green Room dives deep. Expect tales of epic wins, brutal wipeouts, and behind-the-scenes moments from life in and out of the water. Whether you’re chasing waves or just some inspiration, this podcast will leave you stoked to paddle out.
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Tappa
Welcome to the Green Room. Your backstage pass to the world of surfing. I'm your host, surf emcee and commentator, Terry Tapper diving into epic winds, crashing fouls and wild stories with surfing's biggest names, as well as the legends working behind the scenes to keep that state alive. A big shout out to our sponsor for this episode. The official break out with their new Jersey lager.
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Tappa
So wax up, paddle out and join us in the green room with a surf chat. Never, guys flat. Well, folks, welcome to the green room. Today's guests. Well, you know what I've been doing the, Kirra Surf Writers Team challenge I have every year for around nearly 30 years now. And one year I'm doing it next thing up turns, it turns up this bass, massive bass, fatty, all I've written.
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Tappa
Then there's this. Black gets out and he's got a sound system in a wheelie bin. And, I tell you what, I've got to now I'm more of that. Tommy's moved out to the Gold Coast, but this bloke has done so much in his life and is such a great human being. You got to have a yep to a minimum.
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Tappa
You know, like Bondi Boardriders. He's a, you know, icon in Sydney. Icon for graffiti. He's done so much. Well we got to find out about it. Welcome to the green room tiny spanners.
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Tony
Thank you so much Tapa. Thanks for the intro, mate.
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Tappa
It's so good to have you here, mate. Now, my, you grew up, you're born in Sydney.
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Tony
Born in Sydney, with a Greek Cypriot dad, godfather of the great community of Australia. So he's like a gangster. And, you know, back in the day, in the 1920s on an English passport from Cyprus. Yeah. Mum was born here in 1926, in Sydney. Her parents came as refugees in 1900 and Ireland got married up here. And so I've got the silly, the great kangaroo in me and having a great dad that sort of everybody loved.
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Tony
I was a tough bloke. Yeah, that guy let me have a great life and I learned a lot.
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Tappa
Now my time. So where did you. Well, where did you start growing up in Sydney? Was it a Bondi or.
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Tony
Dad bought a house in Vaucluse.
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Tappa
Oh.
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Tony
So I went to public school in Vaucluse high. Then my backyard was parsley Bay. Jumped off the beach when I was about ten at me, taught at King, taught and you know, and it was, full moon. I worked at a lab cause I used to. I studied everything, you know, I took about curiosity. Killed the cat. Yeah.
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Tony
I don't know why I'm still alive. I tell you.
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Tappa
I used up a.
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Tony
Few of your clues. Public, I knew all about the gap. The coastline. Busses to terminate in our street. Fitzwilliam Road used to take me straight to South Bondi. Terminate there so I could get on the bus to 3 to 2, take me straight to the south by dawn. And while we were rebuilding a butcher's shop. And you shop in Oxford Street title scheme, I find that for bookshops, one in the city, in George Street I knew the city like the back of my hand from young.
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Tony
I catch a 327 from Vaucluse all the way to the city. I come home with that after I finish work. So I'd run, ran all the different department stores and win all the prizes and all the competitions. And I knew everything, you know, I was a livewire.
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Tappa
Are you still.
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Tony
I'm on a public school. They told me that you slip half your life away. And I said, well, damn that I'll stay awake for it. I'll live to live day and night.
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Tappa
Now, my, you're a keen surfer, mate. You're always happy. And you got the biggest smile. You know, they say the best surfer is the. In the water is the one having the most fun. So you honestly, mate, you're one of the best surfers I've ever seen because you always got this great big smile. But how did you first get into it?
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Tappa
Surfing like Vaucluse isn't really on the surf, it's on the ocean, but it's not really surf there. How did you get into into surfing and making?
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Tony
And you put yourself up in Times Square? And I was in and I knew about surfboards, so I used to watch on TV and like a white thing. Yeah. Why me? Bay and I was fascinated with those Hawaiians going down these big wave and that, you know, and, you know, growing up in Vaucluse, I'm on the harbor, but the beaches got everything.
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Tony
I was a water baby, but I went to swim in the bay, so they do in this.
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Tappa
All like the Greek where it's flat. The Mediterranean.
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Tony
I didn't even now a guy in the fair, he'd come in and there'd be a little way I the white for it anyway. So then, that building, the butcher shop, and they're in the cool room in the styrofoam, and I get mixed up with that styrofoam, you know, and they finished with all the plywood. So I took a piece and I watched the way they cut its.
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Tony
I took it home. I had the bread knife and I cut the styrofoam up. They gave me a big panel. I paddle around parsley baby. It felt right.
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Tappa
It wasn't glass.
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Tony
I just, I just thought I might not be. Yeah, I, I you know, I know I'm the only thing in lighting for a wife or fairy to come. It didn't happen. Got on the freight. You two went to bonding with you?
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Tappa
Piece of. Fine. Yeah.
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Tony
You got my phone. Let's check it now. Yeah, I'm only about seven.
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Tappa
Oh, wow.
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Tony
I'm just the set for that. If it's R5. Yeah, you know, I'm going to be a surfer and taking it down to the north end where the kids are jumped off the rock there when the wave was coming. Try to time it because I'm studying. I do my homework. Yeah, yeah, yeah I'm why but I'm, I try to be safe.
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Tony
Yeah. And it broke in half knee. Went straight on a barnacle on the rock and did the biggest gash down my knee. I still got it.
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Tappa
Oh I still got the scouted.
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Tony
And my first discount I ever got from surfing.
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Tappa
So that was your first sort of a real wise. When did you get like your first real wife or what? Did you get another surfboard?
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Tony
What did you get? What does it mean? What did you do then? Because we're primary school going on the high school. Yeah. They had those big rubber things.
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Tappa
All the surf applied. Yeah. Shine said it used to help hide them out in that. Yeah, yeah.
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Tony
Well, I was the down of brawny and I walked around tan and it was big. Yeah. And they're all laughing at me. The boys, you know. And I said, are you going to go out there? Go. Yeah. You know, and they gave me one and they're all going to watch me. Now get killed. Yeah.
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Tappa
Because usually this little great boy I can.
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Tony
Break, like I'm not tall, blond, blue I.
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Tappa
And so they've probably from black tan or somewhere.
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Tony
Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. Same thing happened to me when I went to Hawaii. I didn't believe I could see if. You're right. Yeah. The Hawaiians, you know, I said I go at the back of Mackenzie's to get this wife at McKenzie because you couldn't go out ten man was too big. Yeah, yeah, it's coming in huge. Yeah, and I'm going to die now.
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Tony
They were laughing.
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Tappa
Yeah, I know Mackenzie a great watch.
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Tony
I'll go right down the end of Mackenzie's to jump up on this thing. Yeah. And paddled around and I called the bum of the day and I'm trying to steer towards.
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Tappa
Them hanging onto the ice.
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Tony
But I'm trying to steer towards Tam Arama and I'm going towards Mackenzie's, and there's a rocks in the middle.
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Tappa
Yeah. And I, I'm.
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Tony
Trying to turn left. I made it and I thought I was going down the Big Dipper right at Luna Park.
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Tappa
Yeah.
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Tony
Yeah yeah, yeah. Oh, you know, I love that. And I made it.
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Tappa
And that sort of hooked you did.
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Tony
That was the end of it. Because once I went down that Big Dipper right at Luna Park and wasn't scared to do the Big Dipper, right. Yeah. I was going down the slippery dip on this thing at 500 mile an hour try. And I'm with Tam Marama, and I made it, and I shocked him. And that was it.
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Tony
So, big wave rider.
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Tappa
How are you doing? Well, honestly, mate, I'll see you at Berlin. I got. Who the hell's that at? Oh, it's tiny and you're at one. And for some reason there's always some massive set and you're on it. I don't know, had.
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Tony
You been on that one? I love you for that. You know why? Because, Burley, I've had a blood transfusion. I got my blood Nemo up on it. Oh, I got it. I got him up here.
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Tappa
He got bond, I did, I.
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Tony
Forget bond, I am sold out. I'm over, I'm over it. I'm here forever. You stuck with me and I love you. Said free for every morning I wait for that at six in the morning. It's better than the alarm bells. And I set my day from low tide to high tide. What the winds out of the you program?
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Tony
My wonderful day every day.
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Tappa
Well, that's that's awesome. But look, look, let us we we got to talk about you. Now you've got on the on the surf applying. Yeah. When did you get. You've done the surfer thing. When did you go to a surfboard.
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Tony
Well the guy called it high school about 14. Yeah. And his brother was a big footy player in Eastern Suburbs.
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Tappa
Oh. What appeared? Yeah, I remember the pier.
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Tony
We. Jeff was his younger brother and he made me the surfboard for 40 bucks. And he didn't finish it. It was rough. It's gotten he got racial over.
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Tappa 2
Me.
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Tappa
Even with the.
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Tony
Wax now. Yeah. Or maybe he could never wax on it. It was so rough. It was.
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Tappa
Stick to it. Oh. Textured it.
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Tony
Yeah. Textured. They don't slip. You know.
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Tappa
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Tony
He did the job on me. Hey, kill me and win, all right? Yeah, I surfed it well up on it, and I started getting rich.
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Tappa
Was that with leg rub? So with that, I'm not, like, right now.
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Tony
And then the next thing, I had to get another boy in high school, I think going into about fifth form or something. Yeah. And he making surfboards. Guy Tilbury and he made me this fantastic surfboard. So I took it out to brawny Gnarly Grips. And it was big. That huge. And the only way to get out back in those days, I used to borrow boards.
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Tony
I had other boards. And this was the Mickey Mouse one. And you had to jump off the ledge. The rocks ran across the reef at low tide. Yeah. And then paddle for your life before you get smashed and killed with me in pieces back on the rocks. Yeah. It was a dangerous jump, you know? And run. Yeah, and I might.
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Tony
I'm at the back and I've gone for the first bomb and I sort of rode. But she's. That's so turned off to get the next one. As I'm paddling back out, the next one's already frothing 90 degree vertical, about 20ft face landed on my head and I heard a ding underwater. That was the board I was never saw it.
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Tony
Ever gone. Gone at to say about half an hour later, crawl up on the beach. I can't see. Yeah, and I've made it, I survived.
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Tappa
Oh, so that was a dock. It was right on dock. I mean, you.
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Tony
Know, I couldn't say because I was so worked. Oh, oh.
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Tappa
Oh, well, that's good that you didn't drain.
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Tony
Yeah. And I'm out there thinking I should be at home now having Scotch finger biscuits with my mom. What am I doing here? Yum, yum. Get me going to draw, you know.
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Tappa
And so from there, my. Yes. Yeah. And did you end up becoming part of bond I through that.
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Tony
So what happened there. Because I said bond all my life I knew everyone down the I ended up with lots of different boards. You know Tercero wines this and that, all the different boards that came out. Shame. Was it ten years younger than me and he was already on tour and.
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Tappa
She had her in which she.
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Tony
Shined around. We're talking about when I say shine, everybody knows it's shine or yeah. So he was already on tour and doing his thing. We had a guy called Elsie and Elsie. We had run a surf shop down there is in Indonesia with kids. They're living over there now. We had spot who was doing the it.
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Tappa
Oh yeah.
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Tony
They doing the surfing. We had the North Bondi guys which are, you know, part of the surf culture up there with the clubs. Yeah. So shine to promote Roxy to become our own club. Yeah. At Bondi this is early late early 80s. Oh yeah. And he and Elsie organized a whole bunch of boys to go with him. Michael Bay, me, most of us as we ended up the president, as a close friend of mine today to go to Hawaii to catch up with Shane, who was there.
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Tony
Yeah. So those half a dozen boys from Bondi, I went to Hawaii. Shane was there and he set them up on the beach to go at sunset. When? About ten, 20ft. Yeah. And they all shit themselves. And you sent them out and they all came back to Australia. Champion big wave surface. And most of us just took on Bondi Boardriders for ten years as the president and I sponsored him doing that.
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Tappa
So you've sponsored Bondi Boardriders for 30 years.
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Tony
Right up to today.
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Tappa
That's unreal. My. Yeah. And because you've you've been lucky to be blessed with a bit of money and oh I know that one the case stuff. Yeah. What a generous man you are to look after that. Yeah might but yeah it's surfing and you bond I like my that first I'm that you were responsible for the Bondi Boardriders boss.
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Tony
You went on the bus was fantastic.
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Tappa
Let us know that the boss and the boss come on.
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Tony
The bus was a classic because in its previous life, it was the pace bus.
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Tappa
The pace bus? What do you mean?
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Tony
Well, a 1990, when I opened up Graffiti Hall of Fame at the Matrix, which was a drop in center for all the wall kids in Australia. Wherever they came from, I turn up, I use that for environmental activism. Yeah, and I use it for surf events, for indigenous surfing up and down the coast from Fingal, right down to Rick Bay, Ulladulla.
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Tony
I used it for, protests. Reclaim the streets. I shut George Strait down in the city with the bus diagonally. You block back and all the kids who come out of the train station and dance all day on the street.
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Tappa
Sick.
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Tony
So the bus was famous. It was a tourist, and the police just wanted to kill that thing and defected. And everywhere I go, they end up in Darwin. The first thing is 20 police cars around me defecting it.
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Tappa
I even in Darwin.
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Tony
But yeah, we were just shut down.
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Tappa
You might not think you're a bit of a serial pest.
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Tony
My, biggest nuisance in the world is. Yes, I've been arrested that many times for breaking the pace. Really? Are you 47? Right. You're a.
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Tappa
Lovely man.
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Tony
Yeah, but 47 raids at the meatworks during parties, rave, hip hop, even police boys.
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Tappa
Well, my. Let's go, let's go back.
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Tony
No drugs and alcohol found.
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Tappa
Yeah, well, let's go back with it. So that all that ride on.
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Tony
The bus.
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Tappa
That's that. But we'll go back to. And that starts with the graffiti, the graffiti Hall of Fame.
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Tony
Noni.
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Tappa
Noni. Now your talent. You told me before that you're responsible with the people for making the first ever legal graffiti wall. Is that correct? Where was that? And how did that come about?
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Tony
Bondi promenade round I promenade I promenade became the first legal wall in the world. And how did that. That's my claim to fame.
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Tappa
That's all right. You got a lot of.
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Tony
I got a few clients.
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Tappa
Yeah, but. But how did that come about? Had. Well, I had.
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Tony
All the boys at Graffiti Hall of Fame painting murals. Yeah. And they were all illegal. These kids. Yeah. Police are after him. Transit police. Go on. One of them is done. 120 trains, you know. Yeah. And they gotta lock him up. They grab him, you know.
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Tappa
If they get him there in.
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Tony
It. So I just get these kids that were champions because I get on these. Can you love them? Yeah. It's after all their artists.
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Tappa
But the artist. But they weren't they weren't they weren't doing anything else.
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Tony
Criminal would you know, they're not bad kids. You this artist that want to paint. Yeah, yeah. And they turned, I mean, the criminals. And eventually they mean the criminals. They turn their friends in the criminal section. Everyone in the criminal. Everybody hates the police in the night. The system. Yeah. It's not to turn that around. Look like ancient Greek to me.
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Tony
I loved it, the color and everything. Yeah. These kids are smart. They're in fashion. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So as you come in or you kids start painting, I'll pay you and let's get some some business cards and portfolios, like a computers. I got laptops to photocopy machines is your phone and I'll take them. Maybe we paint things from the museums, the salvos here and there.
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Tony
We get newspapers to come and film them. Now they belong to public property. These boys. I can't be arrested for being vandals.
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Tappa
And so. So that bond I want. How did that come about? Did you.
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Tony
Just. Or was it bonded? Because I love it. Yeah. And there was all this shit written on the walls.
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Tappa
Yeah. Like what?
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Tony
Nazi Nazi syllables and boondoggles suck dick and all that crap, you know? Yeah. And we don't want that crap, you know? No. And it was filthy. So I talked to the manager down there because he knew I was a big name around Blondie and the Wave Rider, and I could have never hit on payback, I'll tell you that that way.
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Tony
Anyway, so then. And he sort of half like me and I was in the news a lot because of the good things that are happening with graffiti. Yeah, this will bring me a long a few sketches and we'll think about it. Yeah, that was all I needed. So then I got all the boys, rounded up a couple of thousand dollars with the paints and the rolls and everything, and I hit the wall that night.
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Tony
I made it into his first night.
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Tappa
No sketches.
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Tony
Just in their minds. Going on the wall with this kitchen is going to be on the wall. Yeah, yeah, the sketch is going to end up anyway. I'm rolling away and they're painting as we going with it from end. And a bond I promise. Not in one night. That's how we is it still. Hang on I change it every now.
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Tappa
I challenge everything.
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Tony
Over the last 30 years.
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Tappa
Oh, yeah. That's a.
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Tony
Long time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But anyway, so we do that nixing I mean, big trouble there all in the morning. The cops are there. He's there.
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Tappa
Looking. Looking for.
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Tony
You. Yeah, they got me. I can't run away I can't, I gotta talk. Yeah. You know yeah I got, I can't get the kids that they were going, you know. Yeah. And they going to be, they.
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Tappa
Going to get nasty.
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Tony
And they got this at the inspector back in Bondi Junction down there. Yeah I got the Downing Center. They're gonna look me up or whatever. And they going for doing this. I'll tell you how these inspector I says he asked me for sketches and the sketches are on the wall. It's just misunderstanding.
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Tappa 2
It's.
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Tony
In the heads.
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Tappa
So I'm standing. Also.
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Tony
They don't know how to put things on paper.
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Tappa
Yeah, yeah.
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Tony
But it's on the wall. And I'll tell you what. If you don't like it, I'll roll that tonight. And we just do back Nazi things and know septic and everything like that, you know, have that will can have a bit off. Yeah we've done I got away with.
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Tappa
It and that and so and everybody's happy when the kids.
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Tony
Could stand there with a daylight blast with spray cans and paint away any day of the week without being.
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Tappa
Arrested. Yeah. That's cool.
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Tony
And the manager of the promenade, I won't forget. I can't forget his name. He used to hate me because I said the loud sound systems for the Bondi Boardriders. Yeah, and they bring the place on. Imagine bringing the policeman. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Somebody can play this crazy. Yeah, I like the crazy. We've got 5000 people here enjoying the music.
00;15;22;00 - 00;15;31;06
Tony
You got one that crazy telling me to keep quiet. They bring you up, Inspector, when this install. To turn to God, to turn the lights off. Yeah. Who are these people? You know, we're having a great day.
00;15;31;07 - 00;15;39;26
Tappa
And so that's how with the went. Well, I saw you went at the Chiara team shout. First time I ever met. Yeah, yeah. With the wheelie bin sound system. Is that how that came about?
00;15;39;27 - 00;15;59;01
Tony
Yeah. Because we have to do what you do now. It comes with all the wires and and the jammer riders and that's illegal. Have a generator. Could blow up. Yeah. Was I can get electrocuted. And then we saw it. But put them in a wheelie bin and everything 1000W. And we put sort of Bluetooth receivers and transmitters. So they kind of rest the DJI.
00;15;59;07 - 00;16;16;17
Tony
He's on his phone about half a mile up the road doing playing all the music. I know his microphone talking to everyone. Yeah. And we put them wheelie bins everywhere. And they just go off and they go right. And then when the police tell us to move on, the pod because they're all dancing, we just move the wheelie bin like the Pied Piper and they will follow the rascals.
00;16;16;17 - 00;16;24;19
Tony
And we got the we'll be going down the road with the music. Everybody's happy, and we've moved away from those silly neighbors to annoy some other neighbors. Yeah, I was.
00;16;24;22 - 00;16;30;27
Tappa
That's awesome. Right now, the other thing I'm like the. Is it the meatworks where you had that, you shot the graffiti?
00;16;31;03 - 00;16;33;17
Tony
That's where it all began. It all began in the meatworks.
00;16;33;24 - 00;16;35;05
Tappa
How did that how did that come about?
00;16;35;05 - 00;16;40;25
Tony
Might well look, in 1990 I worked in the meatworks for 30 years with my dad. Yeah. And I am really.
00;16;40;26 - 00;16;41;06
Tappa
Busy this.
00;16;41;06 - 00;16;56;05
Tony
Morning, which is as you know, the odd business goes. Yeah, but the problem with my business, I had older brother in laws, jealous of my dad's wealth, and they married into the family for the money. It's a Greek tragedy kept down under. Yeah. Oh, my God, what a story that one is. We won't talk about that one.
00;16;56;05 - 00;17;06;05
Tony
Okay. Anyways, I had to fight these guys all my life. It's work. I'm working hard. They. Can they be reaping the benefit of it? Yeah. So I took off and went to America in 87 to race NASCAR. Yeah, when I.
00;17;06;06 - 00;17;07;08
Tappa
Came to NASCAR. Yeah, but.
00;17;07;08 - 00;17;14;21
Tony
I'll tell you why. That's how I started graffiti. All fine. I came back alive and I'd leave my childhood dream to be a NASCAR driver because I thought back when I was a kid, I want to be a racecar.
00;17;14;21 - 00;17;16;20
Tappa
Driver, but let's go back to the.
00;17;16;22 - 00;17;34;08
Tony
Meatworks. I then I decided I'm going to sponsor all the disadvantaged, abused kids in this country, not going to work for the brothers. I'm not going to work for the Australian government. I'm going to work for them and have you and hire me as an adult. I'm $1 million an hour. If you're a kid, I'll pay you to be good.
00;17;34;10 - 00;17;51;02
Tony
So I'm going to work for the kids now. Yeah, full time. And ask them what they dream is. Yeah, a career, and I'll sponsor five grand. Ten grand. I'll put straight into their pocket. Make it happen for them. And you know what? I was so rewarded from that, I'd. I approved the meatworks, turned it into the graffiti on the farm, which is all I got.
00;17;51;05 - 00;18;12;21
Tony
Yeah. And it was, it was like illegal art. Yeah. Skate was illegal. Dance parties were illegal. Hip hop was illegal. Gang was on trains. I brought them all together in a melting pot, put them all together. Having fun? Yeah. And my name? Spanish became a word. Then if you were in Blacktown, Wollongong, anywhere in the country saw it, and you're about to have a fight with a gang and somebody said Spanish, they all start laughing and sharing in the food and stop being mates.
00;18;12;21 - 00;18;13;12
Tappa
Oh, that's all right.
00;18;13;14 - 00;18;15;00
Tony
I brought all the kids together from.
00;18;15;00 - 00;18;18;00
Tappa
Crime and the one thing you had rides and all that stuff. Oh, the.
00;18;18;00 - 00;18;18;24
Tony
Drives never stop.
00;18;18;24 - 00;18;25;01
Tappa
24 seven now, now. But the thing is, my, what was special about those reside. No, not like a holiday.
00;18;25;05 - 00;18;32;22
Tony
That's when the police started writing me. Yeah, I was going really good up to 94. Yeah. And then they started to take me to court. Yeah, I have a too much dancing. Can you believe that?
00;18;32;22 - 00;18;38;11
Tappa
Too much. Isn't that. That's Footloose, isn't it? That's the movie. Doesn't matter. Can't dance in the deck.
00;18;38;11 - 00;18;42;24
Tony
Make it a TV show about the stars. So stay tuned. All these young stars from the beginning. Years ago. Yeah.
00;18;42;28 - 00;18;44;08
Tappa
090, Raven.
00;18;44;12 - 00;19;01;01
Tony
Oh, Raven. And they know. And I put the hip hop is together with the writers. Yeah. So I brought everyone together and the writers I found to be the best thing for young people at the time. During that generation. Yeah, because there was no orgy necessary. There was no money at the door. Yeah. And I could feed them and look after him by the bus.
00;19;01;01 - 00;19;16;03
Tony
Stay home. Yeah. And I keep them safe all night. And it was out, you know, saying, like I'm in the dorm and you're not allowed into this nightclub. Yeah, yeah. Any kid on any size and shape and size could come in there, like big t shirt and baggy clothes and really fun looking classes, psychedelic outfits and everything.
00;19;16;03 - 00;19;28;17
Tony
Yeah, they're really. The kids were the future and the music was futuristic. Yeah, it wasn't like listening to, you know, people singing. It was all these things ding dong, ding ding. And but it was actually quite, meditating. Yeah.
00;19;28;19 - 00;19;30;09
Tappa
And with this trance music.
00;19;30;10 - 00;19;35;18
Tony
Trance music, it's quite meditating during the four in the morning, they're all sort of floating on air and dance.
00;19;35;18 - 00;19;36;23
Tappa
So they should go all night.
00;19;36;23 - 00;19;55;08
Tony
Oh, they start at seven in the afternoon setting up. Yeah. And you go to seven in the morning with recovery. Yeah. And they come just for recovery. Some of them let me see. Yeah. And they go all night and, and I used to always hire Saint John's Ambulance men. Groom volunteers for the night to be there in case you're on the mother's Valium or whatever they're on.
00;19;55;08 - 00;20;06;03
Tony
Yeah. You know, keep an eye on everyone, and I'll always have an off duty policeman that I used to. So if we turn up to be there just to watch the cops, they're going to give me a hard time, you know? Yeah.
00;20;06;06 - 00;20;08;21
Tappa
And so I did. The cops give you a bit of a hard time? All the.
00;20;08;21 - 00;20;16;27
Tony
Authorities. All the authorities. Look, a lot of the cops, the kids told me that they used to have to pick straws to come down and tell me to turn it off. You know, not on.
00;20;16;27 - 00;20;17;23
Tappa
The cops wanted to tell, you.
00;20;17;25 - 00;20;19;29
Tony
Know, I didn't know. I'm doing a good job at the authority.
00;20;19;29 - 00;20;26;13
Tappa
You actually keeping all that? Any maybe disaffected youth actually occupied and not doing.
00;20;26;18 - 00;20;33;07
Tony
One of those troubled kids that are out there at night? Yeah. Safe haven. And the parents could hear the music. Yeah. And you? The kids are with me.
00;20;33;12 - 00;20;34;22
Tappa
Yeah. Oh. That's cool.
00;20;34;26 - 00;20;41;11
Tony
I would like to see them. All right. So you're doing a commune, right? It's a giveaway going on the million. What's the say?
00;20;41;13 - 00;20;45;21
Tappa
But like a community service kind of thing. But that the authorities went after you. Well, look.
00;20;45;27 - 00;20;59;09
Tony
I was on. I was way ahead of my time, and I just wanted to turn South Sydney to 50,000 home units. Yeah, and semi-trailers turning up at four. I am with mate on it, didn't they? Didn't like the sound of that. Yeah. All the noise from Sammy's. Yeah. Yeah. And they didn't like the sound of the opening night club.
00;20;59;10 - 00;21;20;08
Tony
It's been approved. Yeah. For kids. Yeah. And I was putting a dent on the detention centers. The magistrates are sending them to me. Yeah, school is sending to me to do work, experience graffiti. I got everything going off. Yeah. And because I had such a hub happening with thousands of kids from everywhere. Yeah. All the toughest kids in Australia were kind as anything once they turned up with me.
00;21;20;10 - 00;21;20;19
Tappa
That's how.
00;21;20;23 - 00;21;32;22
Tony
I turned them all into champions. I could introduce them to another boy that's already been with me for a while to take their hand and show them the way, what they want to be. You want to be sad, and you need. You want to be a plumber. You want to be a great carpenter. You want to be a mechanic.
00;21;32;26 - 00;21;41;22
Tony
You want to be any trade. You want to be computer whiz kid. I had every spectrum of kids. Yeah, together helping each other. What a network.
00;21;41;29 - 00;21;42;19
Tappa
Yeah, I.
00;21;42;19 - 00;21;47;08
Tony
Had, and I was waiting for a politician to come along and give me a gold medal, and they took me to court.
00;21;47;14 - 00;21;50;15
Tappa
I took you to court? That was supposed to cost a few.
00;21;50;17 - 00;21;59;08
Tony
20 years of my life, $8 million, and lost all my wealth and my family. The brother was labeled me as a junkie, out with the elbows and the junkies.
00;21;59;08 - 00;22;00;23
Tappa
And I see down on a junkie.
00;22;00;24 - 00;22;16;00
Tony
Never was it, And I made all the kids that were putting on these parties stay straight or not to deal with issues, talk to the cops when they turn up and talk to everyone and care for everyone. Yeah, and I turned all those kids straight after being on drugs. You know, the heroin. Yeah. Yeah, they put heroin in the ecstasy.
00;22;16;05 - 00;22;31;01
Tony
I used to do all the all the ludes and. Yeah, and the A's and horse drugs and everything. And I made a rave safe magazine to tell them what the drugs are about. To have you feeling effect. It's on ecstasy, so throw it away. I used to do all this stuff to keep them healthy. And if they're on something, dance them all night.
00;22;31;01 - 00;22;34;24
Tony
Lock the door. Wouldn't let them out till they all started out. Sweat it out.
00;22;34;24 - 00;22;37;08
Tappa
So I sweat out. The good feeling you had.
00;22;37;08 - 00;22;37;21
Tony
Oh.
00;22;37;24 - 00;22;45;17
Tappa
My. That's that's such an amazing thing. And, like, such an admirable attitude. What do you think you got that from? Would it be from your dad?
00;22;45;19 - 00;22;57;19
Tony
Oh, yeah, my dad, because he's such a person, like even Shane around, he's got like, charisma. Yeah. You know, he's got a special thing about him. Yeah. He's brother runs the surfs going and runs a tight ship up at Surfers Paradise. Yeah, but he's not as funny as Shane, you know.
00;22;57;22 - 00;22;59;02
Tappa 2
Yeah.
00;22;59;05 - 00;23;00;19
Tony
She's a bit of a loose end.
00;23;00;22 - 00;23;05;11
Tappa
You know what might. Speaking of different things now, what came first, the NASCAR or the Polish?
00;23;05;14 - 00;23;08;23
Tony
Well, what came before all that? Before that was 18ft skiffs.
00;23;08;25 - 00;23;11;11
Tappa
18ft skiff. You're a sailor too?
00;23;11;14 - 00;23;24;10
Tony
Yeah, I was 18. Yeah, at high school. And I wanted to race at eight. So I went and bought an old secondhand back that was built on the Carnegie, built the America's Cup boat. We say, hey, be. Yeah. About the 18ft I didn't have. So. So I got that together and.
00;23;24;12 - 00;23;25;08
Tappa
Went out on the harbor.
00;23;25;11 - 00;23;38;16
Tony
No. Yeah. But my first keeper was Emery. Sister Heather. Oh, well, he got a bit. And another guy, Michael Space, who ended up doing more for me Hobart yacht races than anyone. Yeah. So I bought this. I painted a black skull and crossbones, black sails. You might have sailing business. We might have.
00;23;38;16 - 00;23;40;11
Tappa
Black sails is a great thing.
00;23;40;11 - 00;23;43;26
Tony
Yeah, the black pirate style. Big, big skull and crossbones on the speakers.
00;23;43;29 - 00;23;48;26
Tappa
Oh, because I saw a thing on the freighter. The side of Eddie's mama was great. Had the black Bay jam relatives.
00;23;48;26 - 00;24;08;10
Tony
When I say no one can beat me now, I had a hot rod. Teague 1923 tea bucket, hot rod telling my my boat down to double Bipoc to set it up. And I had the 18 footer there and I didn't had a sailboat. I ended up a really good sailor. And there was a guy who just recently, 99 was ice photography on the water, and he said, tow is out to the start and tell us back.
00;24;08;12 - 00;24;23;08
Tony
Yeah, because you never know. Yeah. So what do I to do? Sometimes we'd sail down all the way to, Cove. Yeah. And we coming to camp tired and relax into the sun. Yeah. And we made them let them. All right. Because we're not going to beat them all as fast as they started putting wings on them and making them even faster.
00;24;23;08 - 00;24;46;06
Tony
Mom was the last of the fast wooden boats. So we fight for it. Married to come up up the harbor to do his time. Shoot down the harbor. We need a northwesterly wind blowing a northerly. And that coming through. Yeah, and we'd come out like pirates at a camp. Go and drag a black side. Yeah, yeah. We put up the spinnaker and we drag racing down the harbor at full pelt, out of control.
00;24;46;06 - 00;24;59;15
Tony
No you can't you a tight. You're not even steering. Yeah you've lost, you lost control. Yeah yeah yeah. Anyone in your way like fairies that we just sideswipe material and, you know, all that sort of stuff. You got a ferry out there right at gambling? Yeah, on the harbor. And they put money on us to see if we're going to.
00;24;59;21 - 00;25;09;25
Tony
We've got we're going to get going to be the embargo, not. Yeah. We beat him a couple of times. Yeah. That we'd end up at at the opera house. Yeah. Mr. Jones.
00;25;10;01 - 00;25;11;09
Tappa
You haven't been in the Americas.
00;25;11;13 - 00;25;26;14
Tony
Yeah. We missed the turn. And we just can't stop the thing till we say get in front of it. I think you're lucky. And I should come in pictures and bring us back. You couldn't steer it. Is that much fun. Oh, that. But what I did do. Yeah, it was a lot of the boys wouldn't hang around after the race.
00;25;26;14 - 00;25;35;06
Tony
Yeah, and put the boat away. Put the south away? Yeah. I bought everyone chicken wings. All for all, everyone. So I got girls into it. Yeah. All the girls that wanted a satellite.
00;25;35;10 - 00;25;37;21
Tappa
Yeah. Which is different for that time. Not me.
00;25;37;21 - 00;25;42;26
Tony
No. Go. No girl was allowed on them. And all these girls and a trapeze. Yeah. Hanging out with the TV's hanging out.
00;25;43;03 - 00;25;43;26
Tappa 2
Oh.
00;25;43;29 - 00;25;55;02
Tony
And a good one. And I got all these billionaires on. They be, you know, chasing us. Watch all the girls and all the girls on the ferry got the shits because their boyfriends would let them go on it. So I ended up making the girls day. Right. Thanks to me.
00;25;55;05 - 00;25;55;22
Tappa
Awesome.
00;25;55;26 - 00;26;05;18
Tony
Yeah. Girls, that the girls are the captains now. Just keep it safe. It girls, because the girls would follow the sails up and draw them in the wind. Yeah. And everything. Put everything away. The guys are just pissed off. Go get drunk. Yeah. Oh, that.
00;26;05;21 - 00;26;07;17
Tappa
But then they sell themselves. That's cool.
00;26;07;18 - 00;26;08;20
Tony
The girls became champions.
00;26;08;22 - 00;26;26;06
Tappa
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00;26;26;07 - 00;26;43;29
Tappa
So next time make your legal grab a sexy grab a cartoon when, if I haven't got it on tap. But you like a pop. Yeah. Why haven't you got it? Don't take official beer archive. So next time, remember, if you're after card one, make it official. Might work. I saw it now. How did you get into polo?
00;26;43;29 - 00;26;50;00
Tappa
I know, I know, you still got your rolls. And I believe you had a Rolls Royce horse flight as well.
00;26;50;00 - 00;26;57;24
Tony
Yeah, I did that on my horse float. And John Fagan that makes cup horse trials. Yeah. If I can looked at my trial, I couldn't believe the way I made and copy it.
00;26;57;26 - 00;26;58;14
Tappa
Oh, wow. That's a.
00;26;58;14 - 00;27;04;08
Tony
Good design. I'm pretty good at them fixing things from nothing. Rubbish. You know, what men do, obviously, is another man's treasure. Yeah, yeah, I've got a junk point.
00;27;04;09 - 00;27;05;29
Tappa
And. So. So what got you into polo?
00;27;06;00 - 00;27;22;13
Tony
Well, after I left high school, I like the idea of polo, the horses and things. Yeah. So I should go to the showground a lot. Yeah. And that's where you mentioned earlier. I had to take my horse down upon Derbyshire ride around double Bay. It calls me for a ride from the showground. So I saw it to play polo.
00;27;22;13 - 00;27;33;29
Tony
I never play. Yeah, yeah, not that good a horse rider. Yeah, that's why I. So I got into polo and on the way too, I became a life member at Windsor Polo Club. Well, I ended up playing in England. Prince Charles there for his announcement of his fight.
00;27;33;29 - 00;27;34;10
Tappa
Against.
00;27;34;14 - 00;27;52;23
Tony
Prince. I don't know, but I was at the games where he was playing, but not in that level. Yeah. And I had a big bowl at the Mountbatten's castle to announce his engagement. I was there for that with Princess Di. Yeah. So I did all that. And then I played a Packer recount in America. In Florida. I played all over it thanks to polo, but I ended up in the history of Australian polo.
00;27;52;23 - 00;27;53;23
Tony
A book written by by.
00;27;53;24 - 00;27;57;06
Tappa
Yes, I get you there with you with in front of the I'm graffiti.
00;27;57;06 - 00;27;59;09
Tony
Yeah, yeah. I made my.
00;27;59;11 - 00;28;00;14
Tappa
Hair slicked back.
00;28;00;14 - 00;28;01;16
Tony
To my body, looking.
00;28;01;16 - 00;28;02;10
Tappa
Rather smooth.
00;28;02;12 - 00;28;08;06
Tony
Like, I mean polo player. So I had a really fun time in that polo era. Yeah, that made my fly.
00;28;08;06 - 00;28;10;01
Tappa
Do you know many other great supply polo.
00;28;10;01 - 00;28;13;09
Tony
On at the time? No, no, no. Great to have done with. Yeah I'm the only one I'm the one off.
00;28;13;09 - 00;28;15;10
Tappa
Great. All right. Yeah you've done a lot of.
00;28;15;10 - 00;28;15;27
Tony
Things.
00;28;15;29 - 00;28;26;24
Tappa
But so and but I heard a rumor I don't, I don't know then that you used to go to horses that were like due to go to the knackery and you. Did you bring him back? Is that right?
00;28;26;24 - 00;28;37;23
Tony
Yes. To stop at Homebush on the way to polo? Yeah. And go look around. I find myself a baby that had beautiful eyes, that looked like nice legs and everything. Like black socks. And I'd say, and, you know, I looked about 12.
00;28;37;24 - 00;28;40;17
Tappa
So I that were about to be killed when I made the cat pet food.
00;28;40;24 - 00;28;50;19
Tony
Yeah. And wanted to look at me and think, you'd like me, so I'll have that one. Yep. And a hundred bucks or something. Yeah, yeah. And that one. I put him on the flight, take him to Paul. I give him carrot cake and everything they say.
00;28;50;20 - 00;28;52;24
Tappa
If you've actually saved the life of a horse.
00;28;52;24 - 00;29;03;29
Tony
I love giving every horse. I had away two girls that were a horse in they farms. It was my. My dentist wanted one up. That's going. Yeah, I gave him all away. Keep him my life. But they played polo really well.
00;29;04;02 - 00;29;04;21
Tappa
Cool. Yeah.
00;29;04;21 - 00;29;06;28
Tony
They'd be come from some cattle farm somewhere. Yeah.
00;29;07;04 - 00;29;08;10
Tappa
And stock horses?
00;29;08;10 - 00;29;25;07
Tony
Yeah. Stock horses. They knew what was going on. One of them, Jane, played against Prince Charles. Lady Jane after that game, you know, played a game against Prince Charles with one of those big name, polo players from Australia. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. So I had fun with that. I got him from the. I turned up with the rolls, the flat Rolls-Royce wheels on the trailer.
00;29;25;11 - 00;29;29;03
Tappa
And I'm probably one of those people at the knackery. Go. What the fuck is this guy?
00;29;29;03 - 00;29;44;12
Tony
Yeah, I came up with these horses at the polo wins and they're looking at me scratching the head again. I might get back over there somewhere, you know, like, you know. And I got pocket. And then I'd bring all these partygoers that had been out or whatever, and they'd come to watch the polo on the weekend. They were winos, and I never was.
00;29;44;17 - 00;29;51;26
Tony
And I trained the horses that well because this float wasn't like, you can't get them on the float. I have all the food in it and everything. And it was way, I think that just.
00;29;51;26 - 00;29;53;07
Tappa
Had the horses couldn't wait to get in the.
00;29;53;10 - 00;30;03;14
Tony
Day. They get in on their own and they wondering, look, we have struggled together. Who's in the flat there? All he spends his forces or any his flying, they put themselves in. Oh. Good. Funny. I had so much fun.
00;30;03;20 - 00;30;11;17
Tappa
Oh, man. That's awesome. Now, now the other thing. Yeah, NASCAR. What what what how did you get. Because you were the first Australian to drive NASCAR.
00;30;11;18 - 00;30;16;00
Tony
The first Australian right to do the Winston Cup and the first international.
00;30;16;02 - 00;30;18;07
Tappa
First international as well. First known Saffie.
00;30;18;09 - 00;30;21;20
Tony
All right, give me a high five. And now that kind of thing. I never asked for that.
00;30;21;22 - 00;30;33;01
Tappa
But so what made you want to get into NASCAR? Like looking at this, there's a very, Well, not very well, but there's the Australian series this stuff. Like what made you what made you, NASCAR attracts to you, my.
00;30;33;03 - 00;30;46;11
Tony
Friends, because I grew up in Vaucluse. Right? Yeah, yeah. And I had all these rich friends, right? Yeah. And I made them all up. Right? Yeah. They were going to give me nothing. Yeah. Hey, that's what I mean. I hoped all the streaky that's my life changed. Yeah, I reeducated about real people.
00;30;46;17 - 00;30;47;12
Tappa
Yeah. That's cool.
00;30;47;13 - 00;30;56;25
Tony
Anyway, so I'm having a big fight with the brother and was in the business. I got to go live my childhood dream because it's never going to happen. I never was. I get it with all these monkey business, you know, they hate me.
00;30;57;01 - 00;30;58;18
Tappa
But what attracted you to NASCAR?
00;30;58;18 - 00;31;06;29
Tony
That's how I did it. So I decided that I wanted to race and they never going to give me a go in Australia, because you got to do the same thing with the go kart. They didn't want to do that one.
00;31;06;29 - 00;31;08;29
Tappa
Oh yeah. Yeah. And you want to fast track it.
00;31;09;00 - 00;31;20;02
Tony
No. Well yeah I wanted to kind of get there. So I decided and I took three and a half grand. Yeah. And I knew and name in Indianapolis. Yeah a great black that I need another great. That's great. That had an Indy team. The great.
00;31;20;02 - 00;31;20;29
Tappa
Connection I love.
00;31;21;00 - 00;31;37;01
Tony
It. Yeah. Well it didn't help me in the end the bugger. But anyway he was good. And then he had a guy called Johnny Rutherford that was driving for me. Yeah. Famous driver. So I went and got off a plane in Indianapolis in the snow, trudged all the way to the factory, and it was too much snow and then went inside into my toe and came back in the morning.
00;31;37;07 - 00;31;54;03
Tony
And I made him and he goes, look, we can't do anything now. It's February. He's running in, I wonder driving? Yeah, in his own, in my. Yeah. Is it Daytona's on toward the end of February. Yeah. Hanging with us and that was all I'm want to go see that sort of thing. Yeah. And well I'm waiting. So I took me to a race down in Tampa with three cars.
00;31;54;03 - 00;32;04;29
Tony
Geico, Richard Vogler. Yeah. So we went down there and and they going in and out. And I said, how have you been getting in and out of passing? I carry a water bucket. Let me through. You know, I.
00;32;04;29 - 00;32;06;16
Tappa
Just I just tried it anyway.
00;32;06;23 - 00;32;20;04
Tony
The water back, you know, I didn't have a pass, you know, to get into the pits and everything. So I get through and then they get there and they go, oh, he's going to miss the final. The brakes don't work. They've all given up. So it's going to have a go because yeah you can have a go. So I grabbed the brake master system masticating we a bucket of oil.
00;32;20;07 - 00;32;24;00
Tony
You know working for the. You can go now. It's working. So I freaked him out that I'm pretty good.
00;32;24;05 - 00;32;25;20
Tappa
That you're pretty good with the mechanics.
00;32;25;22 - 00;32;26;12
Tony
Yeah. And I'm doing it.
00;32;26;15 - 00;32;28;10
Tappa
And so I've had you learn that just by doing stuff.
00;32;28;17 - 00;32;44;12
Tony
Greek guy. The Greek way, you know. Yeah, yeah, they doing it all right. Make it look. Yeah. So they said you. Hey I said I got a design for any cap. You really want to say any? He never got to see my design. Yeah. And I was going to use venturi's from sailing in the sailing boat. Yeah. That you put you drop, I mean, to get the water out of the boat as you're going along at speed.
00;32;44;12 - 00;32;54;26
Tony
Sucks it out. Yeah. So I was gonna put Venturi in the, in the Indy car to suck the air out of the car. Can suck on the ground in the corners. Yeah, and then lift up on the straightaways. And you got onto it now, 30 years later.
00;32;55;02 - 00;32;55;18
Tappa
Wow.
00;32;55;25 - 00;32;57;25
Tony
Anyway, so I went. I went to Daytona, but.
00;32;57;25 - 00;33;01;12
Tappa
What sort of driver training had you have.
00;33;01;12 - 00;33;12;23
Tony
My well, my first, my first, fine. Driving. 17. Yeah. I was doing 135 mile an hour in a 35 mile an hour speed limit.
00;33;12;25 - 00;33;13;14
Tappa
In Sydney.
00;33;13;14 - 00;33;16;01
Tony
In a Sydney, 100 mile an hour and speed limit.
00;33;16;03 - 00;33;18;08
Tappa
And this is somewhere probably through the inner city.
00;33;18;08 - 00;33;20;05
Tony
And now I was on a canal.
00;33;20;12 - 00;33;22;25
Tappa
Okay, now. All right. Yeah, you can get out of it.
00;33;22;27 - 00;33;36;08
Tony
And they took me at 130 501 way. And then they chased me on the way back at 100. And now they're only allowed to say 100. And I lost sight of me. And I stopped in Taylor Square to talk to somebody. And then they caught up to me.
00;33;36;11 - 00;33;38;03
Tappa
So that's your training for NASCAR.
00;33;38;10 - 00;33;39;15
Tony
And the judges go.
00;33;39;18 - 00;33;48;05
Tappa
Well, as I say, NASCAR started from bootlegging. Yeah, I guess I was on it racing away from the cops anyway. So. So you're an Australian bootleg, I come on.
00;33;48;07 - 00;33;52;17
Tony
Yeah, well, when I was, when I was at high school, I built a 1923 tee bucket hut run.
00;33;52;20 - 00;33;53;11
Tappa
You build it yourself?
00;33;53;11 - 00;34;08;18
Tony
Yeah. It's got a jack. We ran the shaved 350, you know, and I used to race up and down road basis. No one could beat me up and down. Race highway patrol car made him on the I'd about. Roger's brother was a highway patrol. Yeah, yeah. So he raced me up there. But I beat the highway patrol car one day, you know, and I said, and then.
00;34;08;18 - 00;34;18;05
Tony
And then I built a 39 Ford convertible. Yeah. And when I was 21, I went to Katherine and got myself a road train license. I've still got it today. You know, you can.
00;34;18;05 - 00;34;22;20
Tappa
Drive a ride train. What are they like? How many? How many trials of five back then? Five.
00;34;22;20 - 00;34;32;28
Tony
Five trials. And I've still got that license. I make me do a medical, which means I'm still healthy. Yeah, yeah. And I've still got it. So I went and got that because every time I got to put me over the cops, I had a bit of license from, you know.
00;34;33;00 - 00;34;36;02
Tappa
Now, okay, let's go back to racing.
00;34;36;05 - 00;34;41;02
Tony
Yeah. I wanted to be a race car. Yeah. So Rosebery aces. Vaucluse. Yeah. What am I, Speedway.
00;34;41;04 - 00;34;42;19
Tappa
So that's your training anyway?
00;34;42;19 - 00;34;57;14
Tony
The goal rolls. Yeah. I had all the Aboriginal kids in it. One day. I basketball. Yeah I'm in the back of Alexandra which I know that I go back in my hand. Yeah. Barrows rides a long drag strip so I'm doing I have a hundred an hour with all of me hanging out the windows screaming Aboriginal kids. It sounds the security guard saying it, right.
00;34;57;15 - 00;35;04;12
Tony
Yeah. And and he rang the police and now they drag knitting this Rolls-Royce. It's stolen. Yeah. And I'm going to take it to the Kings Cross, a McDonald's.
00;35;04;12 - 00;35;05;10
Tappa
And it's your Rolls-Royce.
00;35;05;11 - 00;35;19;18
Tony
But I've taken a McDonald's and I've gone. And now with the back streets, because I deliver to all the restaurants and hotels, having butcher shops everywhere. I know there's shortcuts. Yeah, and the police don't know where I'm going. I'm disappointed. Last time I say kings Cross, so say sorry. He's saying, I've said now I'm driving up Episcopal right.
00;35;19;19 - 00;35;29;04
Tony
And they all come on to me. Police cars from everywhere. Yeah. And they're all gone mad. Like hell yeah. What's going on? It's just it's panels. That's just. I'm taking boys. I know.
00;35;29;08 - 00;35;33;22
Tappa
I reckon your name must not be. Every cop must have nine. Oh, yeah. Speedos I.
00;35;33;23 - 00;35;56;15
Tony
During the Olympics, I had the tent embassy in Victoria Park with all the First Nation pictures. Yeah, I did the Aboriginal Olympics. Yeah. So we got notoriety during the Olympics and I stopped. They are going to close the Olympics down. Yeah. The protest. Yeah, I, I'm not letting Cathy Freeman light the flame in red or whatever. So the head cop from England, that came out and the head lady cop at the time came to see me at the park that night.
00;35;56;21 - 00;36;06;17
Tony
Yeah, before the Olympics. And I said, can you do anything about the practice? You know, because, you know, it's going to look really embarrassing to the world. Yeah. And I said, look, I'm not in charge of it, but I'll talk to them for you.
00;36;06;22 - 00;36;09;02
Tappa
Now let's go back to NASCAR, okay?
00;36;09;03 - 00;36;31;06
Tony
Please, lady, put that split windscreen company that I had for 20 years on the radio. If you say this is commie driving through High Park on the wrong side of the road, on an island going up the wrong way. One way. Don't stop it. It's panels. Yeah. I was on a mission to get to all the protesters to bring a hot dude, and I did.
00;36;31;11 - 00;36;43;01
Tappa
Oh, that's unreal. But let's go back to you, NASCAR. Right. So. So you've gone to see you've gone, you know, you fix the brakes. And so how did that go from there to you in a NASCAR and actually driving in the Winston Cup.
00;36;43;02 - 00;37;01;29
Tony
Well what happened I went straight to Daytona. Yeah to that. And you said come back for the Indy stuff. I never came back, but I kept in touch with him. Yeah. And I end up in Daytona. And one of these guys said, look, this guy James Hilton. Yeah, he's like a shark, right? Yeah. He was an independent, won $1 million in 1965 or something?
00;37;02;00 - 00;37;18;23
Tony
Yes. Independent won a few races. But he was a black sheep. He's a stick it up the NASCAR about the drivers to protect him and make insurance for him and give him more than if you lose an arm, you get a hundred bucks. Yeah. Okay. To do something. Yeah. So he's on the wrong side of the face. But they all loved him and had a drive to about 80 something.
00;37;18;27 - 00;37;37;14
Tony
Oh wow. So oldest driver in the end he got killed unfortunately. And I missed out on seeing him coming back in an SUV that the driver that was driving it crashed and killed it. So anyway, he gave me my chance and he said, okay, we're going to go in the next one. He's at Rockingham. Yeah. And when we go there, I'm going to introduce you to the the people they buy.
00;37;37;15 - 00;37;44;09
Tony
You lost. It's about a license by license. And you do your medical. Yeah. And I'm going to put you in a car with see how you got. So they put me in.
00;37;44;09 - 00;37;46;19
Tappa
The car and they sat in the actual race. So Charles.
00;37;46;22 - 00;37;51;11
Tony
Charles for the race. Yeah. They puts me in the car and that because anyone can go out on trial.
00;37;51;13 - 00;37;52;00
Tappa
Yeah, yeah.
00;37;52;01 - 00;37;59;17
Tony
And they're all looking at me like these Ozzie where's he come from? And then the big chief comes over to me. Tony's tobacco, you know, it sure can look at you.
00;37;59;22 - 00;38;01;14
Tappa
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00;38;01;15 - 00;38;17;03
Tony
Hey, boy. Yeah. Cotton leather out there. All right. Yeah. So I go out there and I'm doing qualifying speeds, you know, and they come in, they go. So that was good. Bobby Allison Richard Petty all the. Oh yeah yeah yeah. And you know they know if someone loses out they can kill one of them. Their family.
00;38;17;09 - 00;38;24;25
Tappa
Oh yeah. Yeah yeah. So you've got to in actual fact you really have to show that you can drive because otherwise you can only.
00;38;24;25 - 00;38;41;23
Tony
Takes one person in the, in the of the grandstand, just don't like you and you're out. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, they were looking at these Ozzie and they think okay. Yeah it's all I got in. Yeah I like me. So Shane, not Shane. James Chilton kept me. Yeah. And we tried to get some sponsorship because I only had three and a half grand.
00;38;41;23 - 00;38;51;12
Tony
I left it. Yeah, let's try with nothing, you know? Yeah, I knew my mouth, so I actually took with my mouth. Took me to it. Like going to Luna Park. Yeah. And they gave me a steering wheel, you know.
00;38;51;14 - 00;38;53;04
Tappa
And say you got to race in the Winston.
00;38;53;04 - 00;39;05;13
Tony
I got to race in the Winston Cup, Ascot races, all these various different races, the speed race. But the most incredible one I did. Yeah. Which is one that we minds in the history minds of all the NASCAR. Yeah. People was Talladega.
00;39;05;15 - 00;39;06;21
Tappa
Oh, you did Talladega.
00;39;06;22 - 00;39;36;14
Tony
Talladega Superspeedway, the fastest? I did lots of Talladega. I did I times. I did everything I'd say three years and try to qualify and everything made a few of the different races. Yeah. So I got my experience up. But at Talladega we got a clutch problem getting there. We got there like it was cold. It's now we get to Talladega, I get the car through inspection, I go out on the pit lane, I'm driving down pit lane and the flags come out practices over because I went out on the pit lane and then driving at the other end, I could I was allowed to go on qualifying.
00;39;36;14 - 00;39;51;03
Tony
I've never been on the track. I wanted to go. I want to add on it and drive over 200 on an error on my I had to kill myself. I'm out and I probably. Yeah, yeah. The feel, that feeling of lining a car up to go out and do I have a 200 mile an hour average speed on a truck.
00;39;51;03 - 00;40;00;00
Tony
You've never seen an A car? I don't know if it's going to go left or right. Yeah. It's the same feeling you'd get of pedaling over the ledge a choppa when you without.
00;40;00;00 - 00;40;01;04
Tappa
Having served it.
00;40;01;06 - 00;40;08;10
Tony
With coverage. Yeah. With you haven't surfed it and you don't know what the board's going to do. You never even surfboard. Are you going to make the drop and draw a line?
00;40;08;12 - 00;40;11;18
Tappa
And how is it going around? Because I circle tracks. It must be got.
00;40;11;18 - 00;40;27;12
Tony
To draw a line like you surfing. Yeah. It's a it's the same thing. Yeah. It's a barrel. Yeah. You got to draw that line to get to keep the momentum going. Or if you bog down you go slow. And if you. And if you go too high, you're over the wall. If you make one little error, that 200 mile an hour, which is slow motion with your fingers.
00;40;27;14 - 00;40;43;13
Tony
Yeah, one little thing, it breaks loose. You will. The next thing, they all stand up and they watch you smashed to pieces for a mile and catch on fire and blow up and bring you back in the body bag. It's illegal. It's legal suicide. Yeah. You got to kill yourself. And we're not like, you know, when you drive fast, you think it's fun when.
00;40;43;14 - 00;40;52;21
Tony
Yeah. This is scary. Yeah, yeah. Because you're going to step yourself in your coffin. You not come back that push that button on that, I think I think I was.
00;40;52;23 - 00;40;54;20
Tappa 2
I explodes your.
00;40;54;24 - 00;41;02;26
Tony
700 horsepower. It doing about two miles to the gallon and you got to catch on fire. Everything's going to blow up. And you want concrete between you and the rock and everything.
00;41;02;26 - 00;41;06;03
Tappa
So I might now let's but laugh now.
00;41;06;06 - 00;41;24;06
Tony
What did happen when I got back and made it. Yeah. Richard Petty come up to me. Yeah. World champion, most famous driver in America to go to race team with Richard Childress and. Yeah, Hendrix. I would love me. Yeah. Die alone used to help me Richard Childress. Yeah, but don't you've done something. You've done something that we never got a chance to do.
00;41;24;08 - 00;41;46;02
Tony
You went on the fastest superspeedway in the world. Never seen it before in your life. Drive over 220 mile. An Audi on that back straightaway. Spencer freaking flew into the corner and made it without killing yourself with no experience. That took us 20 years of modifying these cars to get them up to 200, let alone over 200. And we did thousands of miles on these tracks to learn the line.
00;41;46;04 - 00;41;57;24
Tony
And I did something. He shook my hand and he loved me forever after that. And his son, Carl Petty used to race in the country. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He said, give me all these qualifying ties after he qualified. Like I'd be out on pit lane on direct stands with no wheels waiting for the.
00;41;57;27 - 00;41;58;16
Tappa
For his talk.
00;41;58;18 - 00;42;03;18
Tony
Are you going to use $1,000 each? You know, $4,000. I said, you know.
00;42;03;21 - 00;42;12;21
Tappa
That's amazing right now. So what? We've gone through a bit of everything, but now you still still doing stuff with bond. I bought all this even though I live in up here on the golf contest.
00;42;12;22 - 00;42;15;07
Tony
Two weeks ago. Yeah, and that was good. I got the bomb on the head.
00;42;15;12 - 00;42;17;01
Tappa
How I bond I bought wrong.
00;42;17;02 - 00;42;38;24
Tony
Well, the one I bought, Roger. Really special. Yeah. And, both of us just built it up to what it is. Yeah. This girl is running it now. Vicky. Vicky. Austin. Yeah. And she's done a great job. Ben Davis is Bondi rescue. He he's he started bond on this. Q he looks after all the kids. Yeah. So we've got a whole bunch of kids from tadpoles, frogs, micrograms drum units that 50 or 60 of them.
00;42;38;26 - 00;42;41;16
Tappa
And his bond. I still a pretty tight community man.
00;42;41;18 - 00;42;45;03
Tony
It's very tight in the surfing. Yeah, but I would never leave the river guy.
00;42;45;10 - 00;42;52;03
Tappa
Oh, really? Just a different place. It's a different place because it was a bit more lower socioeconomic when when you would not.
00;42;52;05 - 00;42;59;25
Tony
Look, when I to go to work at four in the morning to the meatworks, I'd be driving through Monterey to check it out. No one might be coming out a bone dry hotel. Yeah. And everybody knew.
00;42;59;25 - 00;43;02;05
Tappa
Everyone. Oh, night train and, you know, and fun.
00;43;02;07 - 00;43;10;09
Tony
It was a little fun back then. But then it's changed now. And it's all Porsches and rich people and developing. And they can't stop knocking down and developing high means.
00;43;10;11 - 00;43;14;23
Tappa
But but rich people. Not like you, mate. You had some coin, but you would want a man of the people on you.
00;43;14;23 - 00;43;29;10
Tony
On you, with all the mouth and money that I had. Yeah, I got stuck because these kids got under my skin. Yeah, that got me first to start, cooking the barbecues at the police boys. Yeah. And everywhere. And these kids had come to me and, And you feed the dog, but you feed these kids, and they got under my skin.
00;43;29;10 - 00;43;39;25
Tony
I couldn't if I surrendered. I was on a planet. The government knew I wouldn't surrender. Because without me, with my mouth of money, they had no chance without me. They're heading for jail. Heading for suicide, heading for the criminal world.
00;43;39;25 - 00;43;54;16
Tappa
But that's on. Unreal that you've done all that and might. Let's tell you, you got something here about the biggest one I've ever caught it born. No, I yeah, I gotta let you talk about this one, because mine is not often. You know, I like I know that you get miles at the back at Berlin, like I said before.
00;43;54;18 - 00;44;04;11
Tappa
And I'm thinking, what is he doing out there? And you get a big why. So what happened with this when you caught the biggest wave at Vaughn? I was it as big as that one that that black caught? That was chase hot.
00;44;04;13 - 00;44;12;04
Tony
Yeah, it chase hot is one of the hot, I guess I've sponsored the brother, the father or cousins and I'm all. And he's dad used to work for my mate with the matrix. Yeah. Eric.
00;44;12;10 - 00;44;12;22
Tappa
All right.
00;44;12;22 - 00;44;26;21
Tony
And we had, Bobby Barrett. We wrote the books about all the crime wave in Sydney. Yeah. And Barry Bull, the guy that got picked up from the helicopter Avalon by jail and got away and wound up getting arrested in in Europe. Something went wrong with his girlfriend. They all worked for my dad and I. You know, we should.
00;44;26;24 - 00;44;31;17
Tony
Long term prisoners coming out two days a week. Yeah. Had them all at the meatworks. So I knew how to deal with troubled youth.
00;44;31;23 - 00;44;34;07
Tappa
And you knew how to deal with everybody? Basically, mate.
00;44;34;09 - 00;44;53;20
Tony
When I caught the biggest waves was like when I was at high school. Friend of mine, Brian Patten. Yeah. Used to make boards, solitude boards and fashion boards. And we used to go out and catch the big waves at Ben Buckler when it was a southerly cyclone. Surf from up north coming around the corner. Yeah. Anyway, so over 50 years we'd bring each other every 6 or 10 years when there's a big swell like I want it now is before boundary rescue.
00;44;53;22 - 00;45;06;08
Tony
Yeah, yeah, I budget rescues now here and I got bone dry boardriders the swell of the year turned up. Yep. And it was breaking across the road at the end. It was going into the skate ramp. It was going over the promenade. And it was blowing a heavy gale out there.
00;45;06;08 - 00;45;09;04
Tappa
And they grab. So like Rod Laver up there.
00;45;09;07 - 00;45;09;12
Tony
In the.
00;45;09;12 - 00;45;11;00
Tappa
90s. All right. In the 90s. Yeah.
00;45;11;01 - 00;45;23;28
Tony
Yeah. Before the new guys it's oh the lifeguards again. Yeah. And by rescue and all that to go in the water it's illegal to rescue me. I'm the only one out there and I've just been in court again with this graffiti all the same thing. Yeah. And I don't know if the police are going to kill me. Who's going to kill me?
00;45;23;28 - 00;45;36;27
Tony
What's going. Go on. They ruined my maternal years. Now I'm thinking, you know, I can't have a family because they bloody. I'm in court every day. Yeah, if I had a family, I end up on the street. I'm out there. I'm going to go catch his wife. And I've gone out the back there and I'm looking at the horizon and I can see it coming.
00;45;37;05 - 00;45;54;05
Tony
It's like neon lights. Smoke from the. From the Himalayas. Yeah. It's been sitting on it and frothing already. So I turn around and do my cross into I can do I equalize my knees, start doing some deep breathing, you know. Yeah. And stop paddling, you know. And I've got this big male, nine foot male, you know, a beauty.
00;45;54;07 - 00;46;14;23
Tony
And, I start paddling for it and I've pulled the thing and I don't know how I did it, but somehow, without being able to see anything, I've landed on my board, standing up and powering down this wall and mountain made all the way towards the middle of the beach. Yeah. Turned right. The go right to close out on that side.
00;46;14;29 - 00;46;27;24
Tony
Come back. Going to go left to come in now there I'll take it all the way now. And I've dropped down to the shore. It's walled up like the Great Wall of China on the shore is worse than anything you get at Mexico and fucking,
00;46;27;26 - 00;46;29;26
Tappa
Set, Ted, I said oh. So yeah yeah.
00;46;29;26 - 00;46;45;07
Tony
Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah, sure. It's walled up like one of those at there. Right. And I'm trying to outrace it, but I'm going backwards. I'm not going out rice. It's not going to close out behind me. Close that on me. Yeah. You know. So. Yeah. Escondido.
00;46;45;09 - 00;46;46;25
Tappa
Yeah. It Puerto Escondido.
00;46;46;28 - 00;47;04;27
Tony
Dana. Right. It's bigger than that as I've turned and I've dived into the bottom as hard as I can. It blew my eyeballs out. You know, I've gone into the bottom of it and I've held on. I covered myself up. Yeah. And I've waited for it to pound on it. Just missed me and landed on my board. It broken into two pieces, sucked me backwards.
00;47;05;00 - 00;47;12;01
Tony
Now you got to try and get in there. Yeah, it takes you out round the South. India, New Zealand, land it in, you know. Yeah. Yeah. What, what is ten six in.
00;47;12;03 - 00;47;15;01
Tappa
It because you got ran in the harbor, right. If you know, if you know, I'll just.
00;47;15;01 - 00;47;16;02
Tony
Take you straight to New Zealand that.
00;47;16;02 - 00;47;16;29
Tappa
Way. All right. Yeah.
00;47;17;01 - 00;47;30;21
Tony
It's actually straight out the South. Yeah. Yeah. And you can't get in because. And you can't breathe because you got ten foot of wrong. It's a bay. Yeah. It's not like you going to a channel. Yeah. These walls of white will just keep you on the water and work. And you never get your breath. That can. You can't get in.
00;47;30;23 - 00;47;45;24
Tony
Yeah. So now I'm trying to get this property. I've come up now I've got this board to try and put the pieces together. Go ahead. Okay. Then I get the pieces together so I can sit on with that much off the piece. I got three pieces now, and I'm lying on. And I got washed in, I think my feet into the sand and dredging right up to me.
00;47;45;24 - 00;47;56;27
Tony
I you saw me and is going back. I'm going in and, and I'm trying to get my legs out of the sand, make a run for it. I'll probably I'll get up the. From now on, these bone dry rescue guy on his fucking machine up on the promenade. But you go check in there.
00;47;57;00 - 00;47;59;13
Tappa 2
You know, I'm not. Well, I'm glad.
00;47;59;16 - 00;48;08;03
Tappa
I'm. I'm really glad you're still here today. My, what an adventure. What a life. And it's so good to see you here on the golf course. You do a bit of surf catching on that.
00;48;08;03 - 00;48;18;02
Tony
I love it. You know what I do? Yeah. Is that I hope, I hope I'm Brian. Byron Huskins. Do special. Yeah, yeah. I help him lay my Brian comes in and helps.
00;48;18;09 - 00;48;18;17
Tappa
Yeah.
00;48;18;17 - 00;48;20;06
Tony
That's not we try not you burly.
00;48;20;08 - 00;48;21;17
Tappa
Are you still giving me,
00;48;21;19 - 00;48;31;13
Tony
Burnley public School? And now they've got many jobs. Fraser Martin and, Tommy Phelan is going good. And a diet. We've got Freddie. Freddie comedy.
00;48;31;13 - 00;48;33;01
Tappa
Yeah. Fred's a great kid.
00;48;33;04 - 00;48;35;14
Tony
Standing watching Rob from a kid. He's a champion, mate.
00;48;35;20 - 00;48;43;00
Tappa
That's on room, mate. You have lived such a magnificent life. And I'm so proud and honored to have you in the green room, mate. Thank you. Tony.
00;48;43;03 - 00;48;52;27
Tony
I'll let you know. This is the man that gets me up every morning. And bless me for the wonderful world that we live in. And we can go surfing with Tepper, telling us that if we put a program our day.
00;48;53;00 - 00;48;55;07
Tappa
But there's only one of you. I'm glad you have. Jesus.
00;48;55;09 - 00;48;55;29
Tony
I love you for that.
00;48;56;00 - 00;49;13;15
Tappa
Catch you in the wife. You ready? Into the green room. Hey, folks, would you like to get your name in the Green Room podcast? Well, we are looking for sponsors, so if you want to get a sponsorship, check it out at Pod Fire. Lots of people can hear about your product on one of the best podcasts around the green room.
00;49;13;15 - 00;49;33;15
Tappa
So, check it out. Pod fire. Thanks for tuning into the green Room. A big thank you to our guests for sharing their stories and insights, and Pod Fire for bringing this podcast to life. Don't forget to subscribe, like, leave a review and share the green room with your friends. We'll catch you next time for more conversations with the Legends of Surf and beyond.
00;49;33;18 - 00;49;35;20
Tappa
Until then, catch you in the waves.