Deadpool & Wolverine. A Review Convo.

Join "Big Time" Chris Bower and Tim Hyde as they review Deadpool & Wolverine! 
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Chris Bower: 00:17

Welcome back to the Con Culture Combo, guys. I am your co host, Chris Bower, along with my buddy, Tim Hyde. We're coming at you on off the movie, Deadpool and Wolverine.

Tim Hyde: 00:32

We did

Chris Bower: 00:33

not see it together. We saw it separately, but at the

Tim Hyde: 00:36

same time.

Chris Bower: 00:39

Yes. So we didn't live tweet each other while we were watching it. We're just literally we haven't even spoken to each other about it. That's why we're jumping on right now to do so that we don't say anything to each other about it. So now we're on.

Tim Hyde: 00:52

We go to the contest.

Chris Bower: 00:55

What was your initial thoughts on it? And I'll give you my initial thoughts, and then we'll go through the plot, and we'll go from there. Lay it on me.

Tim Hyde: 01:07

So I did not expect them to pull so much, like, quote, unquote, hater raid of, the Marvel

Chris Bower: 01:18

Let's pause

Tim Hyde: 01:18

for a second. Everything.

Chris Bower: 01:21

Hold on. Hold your thought. I didn't we should probably say before, this is gonna be chock full of spoilers. And I mean

Tim Hyde: 01:28

Oh, the whole all spoilers.

Chris Bower: 01:30

Like, they might as well just we let's just call this spoiler review. This is not going to hold back.

Tim Hyde: 01:36

So go ahead. Yes. Yes. Spoiler alert, you're gonna laugh your fucking ass off.

Chris Bower: 01:45

That's true.

Tim Hyde: 01:48

Anybody with knowledge of the con industry, the pop culture industry, the comic industry, anything to do with Marvel, DC, even, some other parody superhero stuff, pop culture. So I mean, it's just you're gonna laugh your ass off. It's just non stop. Keep coming at you jabs left and right and, like, the most awesome way. And not in, like, a cheesy dumb way, but in, like, oh, this is actually well thought out and funny.

Tim Hyde: 02:20

It's, like, funny, funny. And spoiler alert for everybody. I was only one of 2 people in the entire movie theater for mine. So and it wasn't Chris, but I was the only other person and him and I laughed our asses off the entire time. He got the humor, which is great.

Tim Hyde: 02:36

At the beginning, he wasn't laughing as much. But I think, he kind of kicked in. He's gotta be in the sixties. I'm guessing you looked like a kind of a chunky little old comic dude who used to own a comic book shop or something. You know?

Tim Hyde: 02:48

So he didn't really laugh at first. 2 o'clock. Oh, the first show. Period. Oh, I didn't want a single spoiler.

Tim Hyde: 02:57

I don't want a single spoiler.

Chris Bower: 02:59

Can't wait. There's only 2 because the

Tim Hyde: 03:03

I was floored. I thought they're, like, the little map had an error on, like, error. Just not you know, you can't pick it because it's sold out or something. I don't know. Nope.

Chris Bower: 03:13

They had

Tim Hyde: 03:13

a lot of showings, though. It was like half the the movie theaters, like 12. I think it's a 12 theater one. And I think 6 of them are Deadpool. And it was just when I got out, though, you could there's a line out the door.

Tim Hyde: 03:25

And I was like, oh, perfect. 6 o'clock. Alright. Cool. Later or whatever, you know, 5 o'clock.

Tim Hyde: 03:29

I'm ready. So Yeah. I went

Chris Bower: 03:34

And your

Tim Hyde: 03:34

first initial reactions?

Chris Bower: 03:36

Yeah. I went I think it was a 5 15 show, and mine was more than half full. So it was a pretty good sized crowd, which is awesome because it was pretty boisterous with the laughter. And so, yeah, initial reactions, hilarious. Also so this is an overall thought, but since endgame, Marvel, for lack of a better term, has beaten the dead horse on the sacred timeline plot line on all their shows.

Tim Hyde: 04:17

Multiverse this, multiverse that.

Chris Bower: 04:20

I'm being generous with saying, like, it's almost put me off of Marvel movies, and I and I love Marvel movies and shows. And I've watched all of them even though everyone of them said the same plot. There's some type of plot with the sacred timeline or some disturbance in a multiverse, whatever. This was the only movie out of all of those, I think, that used it the best. It was just made for the way Deadpool does stuff.

Chris Bower: 04:49

It's it's made for it. I know Loki is obviously made for it, but Loki was so much more serious and just kinda, like, wore on you. Like, it was just really a lot to take in. This was just so much more fun, with the the timeline stuff.

Tim Hyde: 05:06

So I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna pause you a little time out little time out. Uh-huh. Are you saying that this movie was better multiverse related than Spider Man?

Chris Bower: 05:20

Yeah. 100%.

Tim Hyde: 05:21

I don't know. I don't know, man. Pop in Spider Man was one of the best pops I've ever had in a movie theater.

Chris Bower: 05:27

That's that's not even comparison. I I really don't think so.

Tim Hyde: 05:31

I'm gonna put disagree with you, Noah.

Chris Bower: 05:33

Nope. I enjoyed Spider Man. I've enjoyed all of them. I enjoyed, The Last Doctor Strange. I enjoyed I've enjoyed really most of the Marvel stuff since Endgame.

Chris Bower: 05:43

None of it's been as good as before endgame. That that era of Marvel is unmatched. But I'm telling you, like, this was just fun, and it it used you're so used to the, the timeline stuff now. And the way they used it and the fun way they used it, it was just it was good. It was like, you got you totally got it.

Chris Bower: 06:07

There was no, like, wait a minute. Does this not connect to this? You totally weren't into it now. So it's like it was the the perfect property to use it. I I really enjoyed that that aspect of it.

Chris Bower: 06:21

But, yeah, that was my overall thought, but it was very, very well done. Very hilarious. And, yeah. So let's jump into right at the beginning.

Tim Hyde: 06:32

So, I'm gonna stop you real quick. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm gonna stop you.

Tim Hyde: 06:37

Yeah. This is a fun story. I think everyone, all the people watching this listening will appreciate this. Yeah. So Deadpool 2.

Tim Hyde: 06:46

I'm their opening time again. I'm, you know, I'm an opening moving guy. Typically, if it's a Thursday midday, whether I'm at a con, whether I'm at home, whatever, I try and go to that first showing just like I hate spoilers. Oh, my God. I hate spoilers.

Tim Hyde: 07:00

Someone told me Jon Snow died. That's like 3 hours before I watched the final episode of the age of Game of Thrones. And I was fucking livid. And I you know, oh my gosh, ever since then I've just been on a no spoiler trip in my life. And so walk in, it's actually sold out complete opposites.

Tim Hyde: 07:21

I mean, packed. And these people right in front of me was 2 moms. And like, they're like, 6 year old, 10 year old, and like a 12 year old. And I tapped her on the shoulder as a previous artist at hand, so I'll let you know, because her kid or the 12 year old, I'd say maybe 11, 12, like, 6th grade, something like that 7th grade. And I said, it's kind of appropriate for him, but borderline.

Tim Hyde: 07:46

But I said, you don't know what this is, do you? And she looked at me. She could see superhero movie. Oh,

Chris Bower: 07:53

oh, my God.

Tim Hyde: 07:54

Like, she's this cute little mom. Funny. And I said, yeah. But, you know, it's rated r and it's like borderline mature r. Like, not like, oh, they accustom on too many times.

Tim Hyde: 08:06

It is a mature r. I said there's sex, there's drugs, there's drugs and there's drugs. And then you're beating the shit out of people and gore. And they said, I don't think you're gonna want to be in this. She looked at me and she's like, she's like, cannot turn herself all the way around.

Tim Hyde: 08:22

She was like, so I am the adult of my children. I will dictate what they watch. Thank you. And I was like, okay, 90 buttons. 1 minutes into the show, boom, boom, boom, grab me the kids and look at that.

Tim Hyde: 08:40

And she gave me the dirtiest look as she walked out. And I was like, just sitting there drinking my cider was like, eat my popcorn. I was like, Yeah, Thanks. Told you. You know, talk about motion I wanted to give her.

Tim Hyde: 08:53

It was stupid. You can't think that this was good.

Chris Bower: 08:56

There was a screaming scream.

Tim Hyde: 09:00

So No. Yeah. Yeah.

Chris Bower: 09:03

And then they the the parent tried to stay in while the baby was screaming for what felt like an hour, but it was probably about a minute, until it was like, yeah, dude. Come on. What are you doing? And then, yeah, you had to take her out. So but yeah.

Chris Bower: 09:21

But they brought a baby. Full on baby. Yeah.

Tim Hyde: 09:24

Yeah. Sure. Have babyless babyless theater times? I'm not sure why you would think I know it sounds weird, but I rated our rated our movie.

Chris Bower: 09:35

Or just honestly, new I mean, I get it if it's, like, a newborn. This was a late and I don't mean baby like a newborn, but this was, like, a infant, I should say. So an infant that's clearly not gonna sit down for 2 and a half hours, period. Like, there isn't an infant that does that. You can't name one.

Chris Bower: 09:52

So you know an infant going to run around, and this is a bargain. So you know at some point, you're gonna either have to take that baby out or they're gonna cause disruption and ruin the experience for somebody there. But, yeah, yeah, you come on in anyway. So but I digress.

Tim Hyde: 10:09

I digress.

Chris Bower: 10:09

That's probably a whole other thing.

Tim Hyde: 10:12

Yeah. So all of you parents, if you're listening to this and you have it, you wanna take your kids to go see dead book or tell trying to convince you 2, don't. Don't.

Chris Bower: 10:21

Probably a bad idea.

Tim Hyde: 10:22

Yeah. It's not a it's not a movie you wanna see with your parents, I'll be honest. Suspicious man.

Chris Bower: 10:26

Like, they they should yeah. They they've seen the first 2 or at least one of them. Uh-huh. So opening sequence, set to NSYNC's Bye Bye Bye. Fantastic.

Chris Bower: 10:42

Great choice. Phenomenal. Super gory. Knew all the dance moves. Wonderful.

Chris Bower: 10:48

Yeah. That was a stellar. What was, like, for I'll just go over some, like, some highlights that stood out from the movie that absolutely put me on my ass. 1st and foremost, Peter Poole, when he gets in the suit, the size of his balls was the absolute perfection. The fact that they made them so big because, of course, they would be was gold.

Chris Bower: 11:19

I mean, absolute gold. And the fact that everyone he came in contact with and was completely in love with him Come on. Like, it's just that that character somehow has had such longevity. It's so good, and such a normal doofus guy. I love Peter Pull.

Chris Bower: 11:40

He is phenomenal. That's one of my favorite parts. Yeah. I loved the Chris Evans bit where he

Tim Hyde: 11:51

A bit.

Chris Bower: 11:52

Is gonna be cap. He goes adventures of what's that now? Flavor. Absolutely hysterical. Great redirect.

Chris Bower: 12:01

They absolutely nailed that. Yeah. Hey. Elektra, Blade, and Gambit finally hit the screen, dude, and they were badass. Yeah.

Chris Bower: 12:12

Loved all of that.

Tim Hyde: 12:14

Who play who played Gambit?

Chris Bower: 12:17

Oh, of course. Charming Potato himself, Channing Tatum, which he was

Tim Hyde: 12:23

Which is so funny because everybody's wanted them.

Chris Bower: 12:26

Yeah. Well, he he was literally they were, like, near ready to film Gambit, stand alone movie with him when the 20th Century Fox deal went through. And and or when yeah. With went through with Disney, and then, of course, Disney cut all the x the upcoming x movies. So he he got put on the, you know, he got on the chopping block, and this was his way or Ryan Reynolds' way of giving him a chance to actually beat Gambit.

Chris Bower: 12:55

I loved the the credit sequence. I I did not realize what a love letter this was going to be to the Fox movies, the Fox X movies. That was such a great, video during the credits that they had for all the different X Men movies. It's hard to believe those have been going on for 25 years. It's crazy.

Chris Bower: 13:20

And

Tim Hyde: 13:20

this was just

Chris Bower: 13:22

wonderful icing on the cake for those.

Tim Hyde: 13:26

So

Chris Bower: 13:27

Parts.

Tim Hyde: 13:30

Honestly, to see Henry Cavill in a Marvel movie was pretty wild.

Chris Bower: 13:38

Like, that's great. And like

Tim Hyde: 13:40

the fact that he was just like this kind of like, sexy, even sexier version of Wolverine. It was like just and when they go, he turns around, you see the face and you kind of recognize it, then they turn a little more like, holy fuck. That's Superman. Yeah. Yeah.

Tim Hyde: 13:56

I mean, that was, that was delightful. I

Chris Bower: 13:59

love that sequence, by the way, because the especially the one where Logan's on the the x cross, that's that really famous nineties Mark Silvestri, X Men cover where Wolverine is on the the x cross. I mean, it's literally right off the comic, and they they Yeah. He just pops into that scene. I was like, oh my god. That was so cool.

Chris Bower: 14:24

Yeah. That was a really cool scene. I loved all the little nods in it. I'm sure once on a second viewing, I'll I'll pick out even more. But I think that someone had mentioned this in the trailer too, but, the the store at the end where they get blown into, of course, is called Life Fields All Feet, the shoe store.

Chris Bower: 14:42

So great. Yep. And then, of course, the Now the other thing we have to comment on is the litany of Deadpools that will be over every cosplay at comic conventions for the next 4 years.

Tim Hyde: 14:58

Oh my god. It's gonna be so annoying.

Chris Bower: 15:00

Every one of those. Like, you could almost hear it when they come out on screen. You're like, you can hear every cosplay you're going, oh my god. They're getting out their little notes on their phone and already started working on them. You'll see them you'll start seeing them next week at every con.

Tim Hyde: 15:16

Right. So, you ready for your quiz on who played who of the Deadpool?

Chris Bower: 15:23

Oh, yes. I heard those.

Tim Hyde: 15:25

I think that's in there. Who played Lady Pool?

Chris Bower: 15:30

So I think assume it was Blake, which would be, obviously, his wife. Because just her coming out, that

Tim Hyde: 15:40

It makes sense.

Chris Bower: 15:40

Him, like, there's no reason he would have any other actors play her. Like, come on. Like No. That's gotta be her.

Tim Hyde: 15:51

And plus, they they both get the residuals from it. So

Chris Bower: 15:54

Yeah. 100%. I mean, you're not gonna and why wouldn't you put your woman in that that iconic role?

Tim Hyde: 16:02

Yeah.

Chris Bower: 16:03

Yeah. That's gotta be her. So I assume that's her.

Tim Hyde: 16:06

Next up it was confirmed. Yes. Next up, confirmed, Cowboy Deadpool.

Chris Bower: 16:14

Cowboy Deadpool. He did have a line, and the the voice sound is sort of familiar. Go ahead and tell me who it was.

Tim Hyde: 16:26

Alright. Alright. Alright. I'll tell you.

Chris Bower: 16:29

Was it McConaughey?

Tim Hyde: 16:31

Mhmm.

Chris Bower: 16:32

It did sound because I almost thought, okay, that sort of sounds like but I was like, there's no way he's gonna be in a Deadpool. Like, you never see his face. Holy cow. Really?

Tim Hyde: 16:44

Yeah. And one more that I for sure know of was the head, the little head that popped around. Do you know who that was?

Chris Bower: 16:51

No.

Tim Hyde: 16:54

Nathan Fillion. Of course it was. That makes perfect sense. Yeah. So like, because they're home.

Tim Hyde: 17:00

They they go way back. Obviously, a nice pool was, you know, Ryan Reynolds. Of course. I love that. A lot.

Tim Hyde: 17:07

His, like, little, like, sexy version of himself. Oh my god. Oh.

Chris Bower: 17:13

The way he gets him killed is the funniest sequence. I absolutely adored that sequence just so he could get the dog. Oh, so You're gonna live.

Tim Hyde: 17:29

Yeah.

Chris Bower: 17:30

Why did we stop?

Tim Hyde: 17:32

Yes. There was a

Chris Bower: 17:37

regenerate. Yeah. That was that was fantastic. I love this line about Ant Man. Oh, Paul Rudd finally aged.

Chris Bower: 17:48

That was good.

Tim Hyde: 17:49

That was good. There's only one more one more, little secret one that apparently just came out. That was one of the Deadpools. K?

Chris Bower: 18:00

Okay.

Tim Hyde: 18:00

So according to Variety, one of their kids, Inez, was the kid pool during the epic fight scene.

Chris Bower: 18:12

One of their kids was?

Tim Hyde: 18:14

Yeah. All 3 of their kids were in the final scene. They're fighting and beating them up. And then Betty was, one of the kids was, is credited as Hugh Jackman's Wrangler where he jumps up on the back and starts choking them when they're all fighting on the top of them.

Chris Bower: 18:31

Because the kid the the one kid has a line, and he actually says, that's kid pool. He's the worst one of all.

Tim Hyde: 18:38

Yeah. That's funny. They're talking about their brother. You know?

Chris Bower: 18:41

That's hilarious. Yes. That's pretty great. I I love the, I will say this. They have there was 2 and Marvel's good at this, about paying plot lines off later.

Chris Bower: 18:58

So I hope the Thor plot line does get paid off later. Even if it doesn't, it's still hilarious. But the overall plot line, they are gonna have to pay off. Because

Tim Hyde: 19:13

the whole

Chris Bower: 19:13

point of him getting pulled out of his timeline was that the higher ups thought he was special enough to do something else. And it felt a little thin plot for this movie. Because it right away, it's just like, oh, no, we're also destroying the whole I don't know. It felt very thin. But, again, because the the the lightness and the fun, he didn't really care.

Chris Bower: 19:41

However, if they don't do anything with that plot line going forward, that's gonna be a little, no. I guess you could argue, he did do something special in this. So that, I guess, paid itself off. But he wasn't supposed to save that timeline. So I don't know.

Chris Bower: 20:00

I guess, we'll have to see on that one. But that would be about the

Tim Hyde: 20:03

I mean, variance And Yeah. Well, in theory on that, though, we don't know what timeline that was because he just showed them the the scene. That could technically be this timeline. That's true. I mean, we don't know exactly what that is and or it could have been something that he was, you know, showing them a fake of, and then it was actually something that happens in the normal time when he just thought he was stealing it from something else.

Tim Hyde: 20:27

Or That's true.

Chris Bower: 20:28

I mean,

Tim Hyde: 20:28

there's a lot of things they could do with that. Yeah. Because that would be a fun team up too. Yeah.

Chris Bower: 20:36

Yeah. Paradox wasn't shady at that point, so he could have been using it to to kinda wrangle them in. So that's true. Yeah. We'll see.

Chris Bower: 20:46

The other than that, I mean, his line where he runs over and and pulls the microphone down and tells Fox to suck it, and he's going to Disneyland, that was gold. Oh my god. It was so funny.

Tim Hyde: 21:00

I mean, for anybody who doesn't know, this is literally a film about shitting on Fox. It is. Like Fox Century and Yeah. And they deserve it, to be honest. They really do.

Tim Hyde: 21:14

Because they buried a lot of really good stuff. The fact that they made the the Fantastic Four, I think it was was the last movie that they made where they just threw out all the people on. And well, the last one they did on purpose, and it ruined these guys' careers. And I've had people that may not ever come back from it because you took a thing just to shove it to Disney. Like

Chris Bower: 21:38

Yeah. I mean, it's they owned the license. I mean, they bought they bought those Marvel properties back in the early early eighties for a song. And, I mean, for a song. They got them for next I don't think this Marvel thought they were going out of business And back and it so they they really got a lot out of those properties over over the 30 plus years that they owned them.

Chris Bower: 22:02

Yeah. I mean, I would say that they made a lot of good stuff, and they made some some crap. I mean, some of the been

Tim Hyde: 22:10

any good in the last 10 years.

Chris Bower: 22:13

Well, I mean, deadpools. The deadpools have honestly been great.

Tim Hyde: 22:17

Yeah. But that would have been done under anybody, though. I mean, that's

Chris Bower: 22:20

Oh, no. But Fox may

Tim Hyde: 22:21

I I can't really get them credit. Credit. You gotta give it you gotta give Ryan Reynolds a 100% credit on that.

Chris Bower: 22:28

Yeah. Because they

Tim Hyde: 22:29

end up in the studio.

Chris Bower: 22:31

Yeah. They didn't they had already told me they weren't gonna make the movie. That's why he leaked that that promo online to get the fan support behind it. That's true. So, yeah.

Chris Bower: 22:42

They Could

Tim Hyde: 22:43

we take a little pause? Can we take a little pause to just say how fucking badass is Ryan Reynolds? I know, dude. I mean, everything he's touching is turning into gold. The guys basically bought and flipped a communications company for $1,000,000,000 overnight, almost like, God, he had it for what, like 2 years.

Tim Hyde: 23:04

You know, and then he said that, and then he says he's like, you know, alcohol companies that are killing it, the aviation gin. And then obviously, you and I, one of our favorite shows, Welcome to Wrexham is phenomenal. And it's his he's producing all of it. I mean, he's basically creating all of the kind of the storyline introductions and how they're actually pursuing these storylines out. It's him and Rob going out and making sure that everybody knows their story of the people in that town.

Tim Hyde: 23:32

And as you know, as well as I know, there are some storylines in there that should have never been told that have been. And everybody's better off because they were Yeah, Everyone. The confidence he has.

Chris Bower: 23:46

The confidence he has for projects that he does is insane. And it's just stuff that's not done before. And then when he does it, it's like, oh, yeah. Of course, this should have been done. And it's a huge hit.

Chris Bower: 23:57

It's amazing. It really is. He

Tim Hyde: 24:00

really It's like he has a time travel machine where he goes and he sees what's gonna work and then comes back and does it. I mean, it's just he hasn't done anything bad in so long. Like, Like, I can't even think of anything that was really shitty.

Chris Bower: 24:13

It's like he learned from all the shitty movies he did. He did several Yeah. Real bombs in a row. And it's like he learned from those completely, and he's like, oh, I'll never do that again. Here's how to do the opposite.

Chris Bower: 24:26

And he just started doing the opposite, and it worked. Crazy.

Tim Hyde: 24:30

Yeah. And now that he has enough, leverage both in his production value and everything now that he can do it, he's actually making all the stuff himself. And he doesn't have to do anything he doesn't want to. He's like, I don't care. I don't need your money.

Tim Hyde: 24:43

I don't need your fame. I don't need nothing. I will do whatever I want to do because what I'm doing is working. And if you don't like it, you can kiss my ass. And I really feel like he would probably tell these guys that, you know.

Chris Bower: 24:55

And he's also, his brilliance can't be underestimated. I I heard him talking. I mean, you you'll look at it the way he markets things. He does all his own commercials. He he was talk I just watched the interview with him.

Chris Bower: 25:09

He was talking about him and Shawn Levy, the director of Deadpool. They literally were in preproduction. They were going to film a fake movie that was gonna be Wolverine, or the Deadpool and Wolverine called Alpha Cop. And the tagline was alpha cop, 2 cops, 1 brain, all balls. It was literally gonna be a terrible movie for 10 minutes about a muscle bound cop, 2 cops that share a brain.

Chris Bower: 25:40

It's just horrible movie, and then 10 minutes in, it was just gonna start into the new Deadpool movie. And they weren't gonna tell a soul until you're sitting in the theater there to see Alpha cop, and they were just gonna let people, the word-of-mouth, get around. And he's, like, the reason they ended up not doing it is because the one moment it got out beforehand, the whole thing's ruined. And then you know with the Internet, it would have happened. So it's like, there's no way to pull that off, but he's like, we were literally already storyboarded and going through this.

Chris Bower: 26:14

And you're hearing him tell us, and you're like, if anyone could have pulled it off. He could have. Like, that's brilliant. Of course, there's gonna be no one wants to go see a movie called Alpha Cop, except hilarious, like, people just wanna laugh and go see a terrible movie, and then they get this gift when they're sitting in the theater of the greatest Deadpool movie ever. Then, of course, it would be under that movie.

Chris Bower: 26:38

He's just really, really right.

Tim Hyde: 26:41

I wouldn't have even believed anyone that told me, like, dude. No. No. No. That movie's actually dead.

Tim Hyde: 26:46

Well, I'm like, okay.

Chris Bower: 26:47

Yeah, sure.

Tim Hyde: 26:48

And then you would have to look it up on Twitter. You would. Yeah. To look it up on all these social media to figure out what it was, you know, and then you would have gone. And then for, like, the first 20 minute, 30 minutes, and you're sitting down with the previews and the movie starting, you would have been like, I'm I'm being screwed over.

Tim Hyde: 27:05

This is a whole point to get me to sit in this movie theater. This movie is And it would have worked. Genius. I mean, it's so funny. Yeah.

Chris Bower: 27:15

It's just that's the kind of stuff he thinks of all the time. And he's and he's dead on. He's really smart about it. And, I mean, all of his commercials that he does for anything are just really, really good. And, and they're you know, his wit is just really cutting edge.

Chris Bower: 27:34

It's just it's hard to do. It really is. People take it for granted when you're that when you're that level of funny. It's, it's pretty spec it's very special.

Tim Hyde: 27:45

I mean, I would love to see, like, a rom com, I love you, man, style movie, a little raunchier with John Farbo and Ryan Reynolds at the helm. Oh, yeah. Because, like, even him just politely shitting on John Farbo, which is like, I assume he's gotta be like an idol to Ryan Reynolds in some way, shape, or form. But, like, he's just shitting on him in that interview. Like, well, I mean, can you drive me to the you know, like, it's just so funny.

Tim Hyde: 28:16

You know? Because he's obviously, as you guys all know, Happy Hogan who's, was a Iron Man chauffeur for a long time. And, you know, now he's interviewing interviewing people to be a part of the Avengers. And, yeah, it was good stuff. I mean, it was It

Chris Bower: 28:34

was just very of course, just the just the messaging at the end about friendship and and, you know, how people bring you through, you know, times of strife and everything. It was, like, not only is the writing good, but it's actually feel good. And and it was like, it's an actual good movie wrapped in a superhero movie, and it's surprising how good it is. And it's just it's just not very normal when you when you watch movies like well, like DC movies for instance. They never tend to be anything like that.

Chris Bower: 29:13

They don't ever have that feel. They they usually do wanting a lot more. I'm I'm more hopeful for what's to come with James Gunn, but at the helm, but the ones in the past have just been even Flash. I was very hopeful for Flash. And, you know, it's just kinda like, you know, Michael Keaton was cool to see, but I don't know.

Chris Bower: 29:33

It just wasn't much to see there. And that it just felt like a lot of those. It just leave me wanting more and, I don't know. It just it was a it was such a fun time to sit in the theater and laugh with a group of people, and enjoy a feel good movie at that at that kind of level and scale.

Tim Hyde: 29:56

Yeah. I mean, Bill and I, which I assume his name was Bill, because he's old, I do.

Chris Bower: 30:00

Look at that.

Tim Hyde: 30:00

Bill or Mark or, you know, Mike, some whatever him and I had a good time. We're just laughing up a storm. Okay. And I did not hold back at all. I'm not I'm not that kind of as you know, I've been in the movies.

Tim Hyde: 30:13

I don't give a shout a laugh. I will cry. I don't give a damn. So I was I was quite enjoying myself. Yeah.

Tim Hyde: 30:21

It's so good.

Chris Bower: 30:23

It's got the the throwaway jokes in it are literally every 5 to 10 seconds all the way through it. I mean Yes. Him him pitching the the team where he where, Wolfie's drinking behind him, and they're in the void, and he's like he ends the scene with read the room. That was one of the best scenes in the movie. Them fighting in the minivan, gold.

Chris Bower: 30:47

I mean, there's so many great scenes in that movie. There's too many to count, and I can't wait to see it again because I know it missed up because, you know, people laughing, I'm laughing, and they're already moving on to the next joke. You know, it's it's, like, hard to keep up because it's so they're just right in a row. It's rapid fire. And, yeah.

Chris Bower: 31:09

It's it's really fabulous. It was great to see that team assembled, though. Seriously, I can't stress enough how good they looked fighting. Like, man, Jennifer Garner still got it, man. Did you I loved her throwaway joke about, Affleck, the daredevil joke, about daredevil getting killed.

Chris Bower: 31:29

Does Shane daredevil die? And she's like

Tim Hyde: 31:32

Oh, yeah. Good. Sure JLo would have laughed at that too.

Chris Bower: 31:37

Yeah. Right now. Yeah. So

Tim Hyde: 31:42

And like in that prelude to when they fought in that Honda Odyssey and the fact that he was shitting on on odysseys for, like, the first half of the movie was because probably, like, sponsored by Honda in some way. They're totally paying off. Because we're they're about to fight and, we'll bring and look to over there because, like, you could even save relationship with a stripper. And then they start fighting.

Chris Bower: 32:09

When he's wrapped up in those seat belts, and they look at the acknowledge that they just just one little scene with seats wrapped in seat belts. It's so good. Oh, it's so good. Funny.

Tim Hyde: 32:21

Like, it was so random. I'm seeing, like, the gambit and, like, this really hardcore accent that no one could understand. And you're like, what what are they doing here? And then, like, he looks over. Paul looks at them, and he's like like, is your dialogues coach the minions?

Tim Hyde: 32:35

Like, I would be really curious to see how many, like, other shows characters, like, even just non Deadpool, Wolverine characters that they brought in or referenced or made fun of and that whole Oh, yeah. Because it had to have been 50 plus.

Chris Bower: 32:57

Yeah. I'll honestly, someone's gonna do a breakdown. This is probably already up. I'm on YouTube. Someone's gonna do a breakdown.

Chris Bower: 33:03

I bet it's in the 100. I bet it's in the 100. It's that well done and researched. Just from the ones I could pick up, and I'm not even that hardcore of a comic reader. I guarantee you there's so many that I missed.

Chris Bower: 33:16

I'll bet you it's a lot.

Tim Hyde: 33:18

Fuck. He I mean, he even referenced a proposal, the nice fool. Yeah. I mean, he referenced

Chris Bower: 33:24

in that collage where he's visiting all the Wolverines. He referenced John Byrne and the browns well, Wolby and the browns suit. So we got brown suit, we'll be in yellow blue suit, we'll be. And what a great reason we'll be staying in the suit. I mean, come on.

Chris Bower: 33:39

Like, I don't know. It was Do you

Tim Hyde: 33:40

think they'll do another one?

Chris Bower: 33:43

Do what?

Tim Hyde: 33:45

You think they'll do more?

Chris Bower: 33:48

I don't know. Part of me wants them to, but, you know, it's like you don't also don't want her to make something bad and ruin it. You know? It's like, this one this one would be perfect. And it's like, maybe we should leave this alone.

Chris Bower: 34:04

It's like Anchorman. God, Anchorman was so good, and then they made everybody clamored for that second one. And what was that turd? That was horrific, And it really taints that first one.

Tim Hyde: 34:17

Yeah. So Yeah.

Chris Bower: 34:18

I don't know. I feel like I don't know. I I that's a good question. I really don't know if they will or should.

Tim Hyde: 34:25

Because they've already made 3 Deadpools, and there's a lot more storyline in development and back and forth between a Deadpool and a Wolverine movie. And if you add the other characters in it, oh, man, if you can bring that in and actually make it, which I will say this. Let me ask you one thing before I forget this. At the end scene when they're all at the table eating. Yeah.

Tim Hyde: 34:44

Like, was it just a young chick?

Chris Bower: 34:47

Yeah. Just

Tim Hyde: 34:47

actually Gambit, like, way

Chris Bower: 34:50

It made sense. I bet they all came back.

Tim Hyde: 34:52

Are they still?

Chris Bower: 34:53

Just showed that they all came back because, of course, she would be with Logan. Like, that's that's gonna be her person. She kinda already alluded that, like, she she has deep respect for him. Of course, she would come back to be around him. The rest of them all would go back to lives.

Chris Bower: 35:11

I like, if they all got brought back, there's no reason they all wouldn't have. I think it just kinda let showed that she was there. That means the rest of them came back too. That's kinda how I took that. And I would say this what your thoughts Do what?

Tim Hyde: 35:28

Because, I mean, if they don't do something with blade, they're fucking stupid.

Chris Bower: 35:32

Well, they've been talking about it, but they did that joke about him saying there will never be another blade. Well, they're they've already made Yeah. The other end

Tim Hyde: 35:39

of the

Chris Bower: 35:39

next one.

Tim Hyde: 35:41

Yeah. So Yeah.

Chris Bower: 35:44

You know, but it also makes sense. The next blade is much younger. You know, Wesley Snipes has gotta be close to 60. I mean, he still moved great though. I mean,

Tim Hyde: 35:57

he's badass.

Chris Bower: 35:58

I mean, he's still he was in good shape. He was in good shape. So I will say this, I think we're gonna probably see Wolverine and Deadpool pop up in the new X Men movies, because you know they're gonna be making some of those, and I would like to see them jump up into those. I think that would just be and I wouldn't mind seeing Channing Jaden pop in and be Gambit. He was pretty badass in that scene.

Chris Bower: 36:24

I mean, it he did really, really well. It was right out of the comic. Yeah. I thought that was pretty well done.

Tim Hyde: 36:33

Yeah. I mean, I want a gamut movie to be hot and be crazy because I own, like, fucking 4 9 eights first appearances of the gamut slab that are ready to resell.

Chris Bower: 36:45

Right. For business purposes, it

Tim Hyde: 36:46

feels like that movie to get made. Guys, if you're listening, which I'm sure you guys are, just go ahead and make that game movie and make it really awesome so I can make a couple $100, please.

Chris Bower: 36:56

Thanks. Yeah. It might go up just off of this movie. Podcast. Right.

Chris Bower: 37:05

That's cool.

Tim Hyde: 37:06

Let's go back. He's 37 views is gonna make that thing skyrocket. The demand is gonna beat us. That's right. Through the little roof of this closet.

Chris Bower: 37:16

Well, what are your closing thoughts on Ted Pool then?

Tim Hyde: 37:22

It was way better than the first and second by, like, a landslide Because I actually felt like this movie had a storyline. It wasn't just made to fuck around and find out kind of movie where it's just like, oh, okay, cool. Like, you actually felt like, man, like, I will say this. It was really weird for me to see. I'm a professor ex's sister.

Tim Hyde: 37:49

Was this her name? Oh, yeah. I'm blank. What's that? I'm blanking.

Tim Hyde: 37:52

Sandra?

Chris Bower: 37:54

What was her name?

Tim Hyde: 37:55

Is it Gotcha. I mean, I can't I thought it was, but I just can't get it. Like Thomas Frances

Chris Bower: 38:01

her name. Like, I remember when they said her name, I couldn't, it sounded familiar, but I I don't and I can't remember. I used to read the X Men back in the eighties nineties, but it's been a long time since I've read them.

Tim Hyde: 38:16

Maybe I heard of, like, professor XOXO or something. I don't know. It's aches and kisses.

Chris Bower: 38:21

I

Tim Hyde: 38:23

mean, she was not a teacher.

Chris Bower: 38:26

She was just a teacher. She was never a professor.

Tim Hyde: 38:29

Oh, yeah. Teacher x.

Chris Bower: 38:32

Teacher x.

Tim Hyde: 38:33

I couldn't stop picturing her as Princess Diana from The Crown. And it's so good. Like, The Crown was so good. And she was so good in it. And she looked so much like Princess Diana at the time.

Tim Hyde: 38:48

And it was really hard for me to, like, get over that. But my gosh, she did a phenomenal job. Being that asshole. Like she ran that show. She was really good.

Tim Hyde: 39:00

I'd almost say she's better at being that kind of tedious. Like, I think she'd be the best one of the better tedious villains. Like, just that little, like, almost like a Doctor Strange villain type of person.

Chris Bower: 39:14

Super powerful too. Yeah. She was great.

Tim Hyde: 39:18

Yeah.

Chris Bower: 39:18

It was really good. Yeah.

Tim Hyde: 39:19

I'm hoping that she doesn't I think she I hope she makes another appearance of some way down there. Too. It's not possible. Still.

Chris Bower: 39:29

If they I feel like they're gonna they have to make some. Marvel's got to make some. They can't just be like, okay. There's too many, and 20th Century Fox made all of them. Marvel's gotta make one.

Chris Bower: 39:41

You know what I mean? Like, they

Tim Hyde: 39:42

have to. So I think they're gonna do a TV series. TV series would be great.

Chris Bower: 39:47

I would be totally that one.

Tim Hyde: 39:49

D plus. Yeah.

Chris Bower: 39:50

Sure.

Tim Hyde: 39:51

D plus 6 episodes, you know, miniseries type of thing and launch it into another movie and you know? Absolutely. Yeah. I

Chris Bower: 40:00

would love to see that. They could go anywhere they want at the time. Yeah.

Tim Hyde: 40:04

But final thoughts for me, 10 out of 10. I will go see it again, which is very uncommon. As you know, I don't like seeing movies twice. I will go see it twice. I have a friend who wants to see it.

Tim Hyde: 40:14

I'll probably go see it with them next week. Just to see to catch those little holes in the plots and the the random things I noticed in the background or the Yeah. You know, just random fun stuff that I was like, oh my god. I didn't notice that. Oh, they're referencing blah blah blah blah blah.

Tim Hyde: 40:33

You know? Yeah. So but other than that, I say, everybody go see it, please. Just know that I traded art. I know there's a lot of cussing.

Tim Hyde: 40:40

Just get that out of the way. If you don't like that, just deal with it because it's good. It's worth the storyline. It is a fantastic storyline. And it's a perfect movie in which shows you that you can cuss a lot, have violence, and still have a fantastic story line that actually tells a story.

Chris Bower: 40:56

Yeah. 100%.

Tim Hyde: 40:57

10 out of 10?

Chris Bower: 40:57

Yeah. Full story, Eric. It really is. It's really good. Yeah.

Chris Bower: 41:01

It's it's one of the best superhero movies. I think it's gonna hold up of all time. It's really, really good. Him telling Top 3. Top 5.

Tim Hyde: 41:11

Top 10?

Chris Bower: 41:13

Is oh, it's I think it's top 5 easily. Easily top 5. I'm not sure what the rest of that top 5 is, but it's it I think it's solidly cemented in there.

Tim Hyde: 41:24

Well, we're gonna make a list on a future podcast. We will let you know. We will put it in the comments below, the future podcast

Chris Bower: 41:30

of the There's 4

Tim Hyde: 41:31

of your life. Super things. Let's get up. No.

Chris Bower: 41:37

I agree with you. And, you guys let us know what you thought about it in the comments below, and tune in next week for another episode of the con culture combo. Thanks for watching, guys. We'll see you next time.

Tim Hyde: 41:57

Time.