Moving Black Brews with Courtney Rominiyi and Bobby Bump

Welcome back to The DC Beer Show, where the hosts, Michael Stein, Brandy Holder, and Jacob Berg, sit down with guests Bobby Bump and Courtney Rominiyi to discuss the exciting world of craft beer. This episode, "Moving Black Brews," is a deep dive into collaborations, flavors, and the ever-evolving craft beer scene.

The conversation kicks off with Brandy, Michael, and Jacob discussing the delicious beers they're currently enjoying. Soon, the focus shifts to the collaboration between Black Brew Movement and Right Proper Brewpub. Bobby and Courtney share how they came to brew a butter pecan coffee stout, a tasty creation that's bound to have everyone excited for its release. They also divulge insider details about a special beer-tini cocktail to complement the unique flavors.

The hosts and guests reflect on the challenges and triumphs of fostering diversity in the craft beer community. The dedication and creativity of the Black Brew Movement and the passion and expertise of Bobby Bump shine through as they discuss their mission.

Adding to the fun, there's the revelation of the intriguing name, "The Dash," for the collab beer. The name carries a heartfelt story about living life to its fullest and celebrating the potency and impact made during one’s time on Earth.

The episode wraps up with a flurry of event announcements, including a special Women's Brew Culture Club tasting at Right Proper Brookland.

This episode brings the joy and camaraderie of craft beer to life, providing a sneak peek into the exciting and flavorful world of local breweries, community events, and collaborative brews. So pour yourself your favorite local brew, kick back, and join DC Beer for an episode filled with delicious details, heartfelt reflections, and plenty of reasons to raise a glass. Cheers!

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Brandy Holder

This southern girl got a late start in the beer world, but with such a bold and intoxicating personality behind the name, booze was destined to be a part of her endeavors.

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Jacob Berg

Jake’s beer education began when his dad brought home a 6-pack of Brooklyn Lager in the mid-90s. It was love at first sip.

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Mike Stein

Michael Stein is President of Lost Lagers, Washington, DC’s premier beverage research firm. His historic beers have been served at the Smithsonian’s National Museum of American History and the Polish Ambassador’s residence.

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Richard Fawal

President of DC Beer Media LLC and Publisher of DCBeer.com and The DC Beer Show

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Jacob Berg [00:00:06]:
Welcome back to DC Beer Show, everybody. You're at DC Beer across social media and dcbeer.com. Brandy, what are you drinking this lovely February evening?

Brandy Holder [00:00:15]:
Hi, Jake. I decided to crack open this burial beer, so my home state. I've been there only once, which Just ridiculous, but I love their stuff. I had a an endoscopy last week. And even Still high on the the things that make you sleep. I wanted to go by Downtown Crown, the beer store there, because I'd never been. And so I was like,

Brandy Holder [00:00:43]:
We don't have any dark beers in

Brandy Holder [00:00:44]:
the house, so we stopped in and I stocked up. It's called Dusk. It's from Burial. It's a black lager, And it's it's just it just says black lager, but it has a little bit of smokiness to it, kind of like a a little wisp of a Roush beer. Oh, Beautifully beautifully done. 5%. Can't ask for anything better than that, so cheers, Burial. Stein, What are you drinking?

Michael Stein [00:01:10]:
Well, I'm also drinking a black lager. This one

Brandy Holder [00:01:14]:
is

Michael Stein [00:01:14]:
called twin twinning winning Called Newlords from Precarious Brewing Company. Where did I get this crowler of Newlords dark lager. But the brew shop, I visited my good friends, Beth and Julie. Shout out to Beth and Julie. They are one of our, Patreon supported stores, shops around town. And then I thought, you know what? This dark lager needs a little hop, so I blended in approachable guys. German style Pilsner from Strange Fruit Brewing stealing a page from the pre prohibition playbook. I said, I'm gonna make a half and half.

Michael Stein [00:01:51]:
I'm gonna blend the Pilsner with a dark lager, and I'm gonna make amber lager. Jake, what are you drinking?

Jacob Berg [00:02:00]:
I like this idea of half and half Mike, and so I've got here something that is perhaps a little more mahogany, Garnet. It is also a lager. It is a collaboration between 2 black owned breweries, Montclair out of New Jersey and Mac, where, actually, I don't know where they're from. But, it is A something like a Rauch Mersenne, but just a little bit darker than that. Lovely, nice smoke quality to it. Finishes very dry and crisp. I'm a big fan. And, Brandy, that you had an endoscopy last week is probably the name of one of Burial's many IPAs or imperial stouts.

Brandy Holder [00:02:39]:
It should be 100%. You know, guys, I think about beer so much and dream about it That I I come up with names for beers in my in my sleep and the, sometimes even the hop profile, which is ridiculous. Like, my most recent one and a dream that I had a beer I named a beer called pass the cornbread, and it was a Cream ale, which sounds delicious. Anyhoo.

Michael Stein [00:03:05]:
You're just giving away the $1,000,000 idea for free, Brandy. Speaking of giving things away for free, join us on Patreon. It's not quite free, but you'll get so many benefits. It's like it's free. We have behind the scenes brewery tours coming up, happy hour special, food and drink special. So come join us on Patreon, And make my dreams come true, and maybe I'll be blessed with some fantabulous beer names in my dreams too if you join us and the Patreon community.

Brandy Holder [00:03:36]:
Honestly, for $5 a month, being a member, You get to go to at least 1 beer share a month because we have minimum that, and you get to go and drink basically for free For 3 hours, but for $5 a month. Like, that's that's so silly. I love that. I love that for you guys. Shout out to all of our amazing members. We have a lot of OG members. You know who you are, but shout out to some of the new members, Chris Giorno, Alyssa Canovio, Kim Clyberg, McCall Tolton. Hey, McCall.

Brandy Holder [00:04:13]:
Frank Chang. Hey, Frankie. Anthony Budney, Dan Goldberg, Ali Thompson, Alexis Smith, Josh Willard, Jeffrey Garrison, Greg Atram. Love you guys. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I love hanging out with you guys at the beer shares.

Brandy Holder [00:04:27]:
You guys are freaking awesome. This is like a a family. You guys are members but your fam. Thank you. We'll see you soon. Speaking of events and speaking of Courtney and Black Brew Movement and write proper, I'm so excited because It's Black History Month this month. We're we always, at DC Beer, support and promote all of our black owned breweries. But the Women's Brew Culture Club, we have a tasting going on tomorrow, at Right Proper with All the local black black owned breweries in Courtney and my friend, Jasmine, who is one of the co owners of Lakewood Intrusion is gonna be there with us.

Brandy Holder [00:05:02]:
So Come out. It's gonna be fantastic, and then we'll see you at Metro Bar later of the month. I'm so excited, but I'm also sad because we got sad news today. Jake, you wanna you wanna talk about it?

Jacob Berg [00:05:13]:
Yeah. The bummer of the news here is that earlier in the winter, Black Narrows took Pause. Said that they were closed up the taproom, and they'd come back in the spring, which on Chincoteague, I think makes sense. Virginia's eastern shore. You get a lot of tourists out that way, not so much in the off season. The sad news today is, that Black narrows is no more. The good news is is that I think we will see Josh and Jenna Chapman around beer on the eastern shore again in short order. Mike is gonna speak to a little bit of this as well.

Jacob Berg [00:05:52]:
Josh is just a gem of a human, and there are very few people like him who talk the talk and then walk the walk. He and his family reoriented local agriculture and and moved it, including Actually farming, heirloom grains such as bloody butcher corn, convincing local farmers to grow hops for him, Using yeast that was cultivated off of an oyster shell and then, keeping that around to make Ashes of salts, serving it in stubby bottles, because he wanted people to think Coors red stripe, a blue collar Beer flavored beer. I just it's the loss of Black Narrows. It's It's a tremendous loss. This one really hurts.

Michael Stein [00:06:47]:
So here's a pop quiz. If you call barley or grapes terroir. terroir. What do you call sea cultures like yeast isolated from an oyster? Brandy, Jake, time's ticking. No? It's called Meroir. Meroir. From Mer, the sea. From Meroir.

Michael Stein [00:07:12]:
So what is what is remarkable about The Chapmans. We're talking about Josh and Jenna. The Chapman family too, really, their whole family ran Black Narrows. They put the barley grower on their can. So when we brewed our beer with Favio at Dynasty and Justin from Strange Fruit, we use Murphy and Rude. And on the can of the Chapman's, Scotch ale, they had the grower, Jeff from Murphy and Root, Jeff Blum on the on the can. And so I think we see so much of this advertisement. We're is advertising so gross or, you know, sexist or misogynistic? Or they had such an opportunity as advertising and input themselves on the can.

Michael Stein [00:07:56]:
If you look at the Black Narrows can, you see the place where the beer came from, which is, you know, the shoals of the Eastern Shore, the creeks, And the rivers, all the, if you will, all the ocean life that's around the Eastern Shore, and then you see the people that Brew the barley. You can actually see the Chapmans on the cans, which is remarkable to really put people first, and we love that they did it. And we are absolutely heart broke in that Black Narrows is closing. But, of course, me being the consummate positivist, One door closes, another door opens, so we're very eager to see what Josh and Jenna have. In their post that they said, you know, temporarily, see you later. Not goodbye, but Until later, they said, please support small businesses. Right? Your favorite, taco truck, your favorite coffee shop, your favorite bookstore, your favorite vinyl place, go support them. But then they also said, if you want to Keep posted.

Michael Stein [00:09:00]:
If you wanna be updated about the new chapter, email jennacha p [e-mail]. Jenna Chapy, that's [e-mail]. And if If you put your name and your email address, they're gonna send you the happy news when it comes down the pipe. So we are waiting on the Chapmans for happy news to come down the pipeline. Hold on, fam. Hold on. I promise you good news is on the way. It feels like every day we're covering another closing, and that's true.

Michael Stein [00:09:31]:
It is happening, There are also good things afoot to counterbalance all of the heartbreak we've been experiencing.

Jacob Berg [00:09:40]:
Some of those good things we're gonna talk about with Courtney and Bobby.

Brandy Holder [00:09:45]:
Please welcome to the show Right Proper's head brewer, Bobby Bump, and cofounder of the Black Brew Movement, Courtney Rominiyi. Hi, guys.

Bobby Bump [00:09:54]:
Hey. Thanks for having us.

Courtney Rominiyi [00:09:55]:
Hey. Hey. Thanks for having us. Happy to be here.

Brandy Holder [00:09:59]:
I really wanna jump into the collab beer, but before we do that, I would like for both of you to reintroduce yourselves to our audience. Courtney?

Courtney Rominiyi [00:10:06]:
Hello everyone. My name is Courtney Romaniyi. I am, as Brandy mentioned, one of the co founders of Black Brew Movement. And, Yeah. We've been in business for about 5 years now, and, you know, it really works to kind of create a lot more diversity in the craft beer community through a series of ways. So A little bit more on this episode.

Bobby Bump [00:10:27]:
Hey, everyone. My name is Bobby Bump, and I am the head brewer at our at Right Proper Brewpub in Shaw, and I've been a local DC brewer for I don't know. It's been almost 8 years now. And, yeah, I'm happy to be here and talk about What Courtney and her group.

Brandy Holder [00:10:45]:
What made you decide to do another collab? Who whose idea was it? Who came to who this time? Or the first time?

Brandy Holder [00:10:52]:
Well, the first time, it was orchestrated by Bobby himself, so I'll let him speak to that. But I think after that initial brew, you know, No. We just had such a great connection with Right Proper and the staff, and so we just decided to make annual, you know, Collaboration. So this is what our 4th one that we've done with Right Proper. And so, yeah, we just you know, after you you do it twice, it's kind of a A tradition. So at this point, it's, you know, one of those things that we just look forward to every year after in Black History Month.

Brandy Holder [00:11:24]:
I love it. Picked quick question. Hazy IPA or oatmeal stout? Go. Courtney. Oh, oatmeal stout. Bobby.

Bobby Bump [00:11:31]:
Oatmeal stout.

Brandy Holder [00:11:32]:
Alright. Okay. Alright. So, what style of beer is this that you that you both brewed?

Courtney Rominiyi [00:11:39]:
So we brewed Yeah. Butter pecan, coffee stout. So that's what we had coming for you guys this month. Thanks to Bobby and his Excellent excellent craftsmanship as a brewer. He was really a good adviser for us. You know, we had the ideas of what we wanted, but he really kind of walked us through what it is that we needed to do to ultimately create the best tasting beer. So, So, yeah, we have actually a really cool beer coming out. And in addition to that, we have a kind of cocktail to go along with it.

Courtney Rominiyi [00:12:14]:
So what we plan to do is actually roll out An espresso beer teaming, again, used with our nice coffee stout. So that's what brand is for this this year's brew.

Brandy Holder [00:12:29]:
Okay. Y'all can't see my face, but it's ear to ear grin right now.

Bobby Bump [00:12:34]:
So an exclusive

Courtney Rominiyi [00:12:35]:
exclusive first 1st rollout of the beer right here on DC Beer exclusive.

Bobby Bump [00:12:40]:
Right? Oh, I'd love that. Buttermicon ice cream was my favorite ice cream literally my whole entire life. So jazzed about that. Yeah. And I

Brandy Holder [00:12:48]:
loved some liquor, so let's let's do that. I I mean, is it gonna be a a high ABV then since I mean, it kinda sounds like it might be.

Bobby Bump [00:12:58]:
No. Our target our target was about 5 a half percent ABV. Nice. So yeah, we didn't wanna make it too boozy, too cloying, you know? So we wanted it to Just have a nice balance, something that would be easy to incorporate into the martini, but also, you know, a flavorful beer, on its own as well. So Love that. I know Stein's probably excited about it.

Michael Stein [00:13:21]:
I don't know that I've ever been to beer release Where there was a signature cocktail alongside the beer being released. That is definitely something new.

Courtney Rominiyi [00:13:33]:
Blackberry Movement original. I mean, I

Bobby Bump [00:13:36]:
yeah. You're breaking here.

Michael Stein [00:13:38]:
And just for historical context, Courtney, in August in August 2024, it'll it will be officially 5 years since, you were first featured on DC Beer. And we had you quoted as Courtney Brown at that point.

Courtney Rominiyi [00:13:54]:
Yes. That was

Bobby Bump [00:13:58]:
maybe something strange.

Michael Stein [00:10:44]:
But I wanted to ask you quickly. You know, we've spoken since you founded Black Brew Movement and done a wonderful job with it. But you said to me, explicitly, Black Brrew Movement was founded to make black brew move, meaning to move beer brewed by black owned breweries and black owned beer brands. How has that mission worked throughout the past 5 years? You know, some challenges, but also triumphs that you've experienced since 2019.

Courtney Rominiyi [00:14:26]:
Yeah. No. That's a great question, Mike, and it's something that we really try to keep front of mind because as you guys may or may not know, Black Brew Movement is not a brewery. We're we're not a beer brand. We are kind of a an entity that stands in the craft beer space, Hoping to, like I mentioned, move craft beer. So because, you know, people who are brewers, they're so focused on promoting their individual brands, you know, Promoting the beer itself. Sometimes, you know, they don't get the opportunity to host events or, You know, talk at length about their stories or, you know, educate people on the different components that go into the brewing process. And so Where the Blackbird Movement steps in is to kinda fill those gaps to allow people to, you know, understand Craft beer from different layers.

Courtney Rominiyi [00:15:21]:
And so I would say with that, we've we've touched a lot of ground. I would say in this 5 years, we've really try you know, Cover a lot of ground to try to figure out what our purpose is, holistically. And what we've come down to is the importance of Black Brew Movement is Gathering the information that people need, specifically black consumers to appreciate craft beer because we love craft beer, and we Believe that it can be a diverse space once more people understand what it is. And, you know, through our events, through the education, And through Brews with Right Proper, we give a full gamut of touch points for black consumers to Be involved into craft beer space. And so that's one of the reasons why we decided to do the, birtini is because Cocktails are something that everyone loves, but people who may not naturally gravitate to craft beer, we know that, you know, having a cocktail that Infuses of craft beer could be a a a segue to get people in interested into craft beer. So just think it through all those different ways To create more touch points and get people interested in craft beer has been, I guess, a lot of our triumphs Over this past 5 years, when it comes to struggles, I would say the same things that have given us our triumphs have also given us our struggles. You know? You have people who are just resistant to, learning about craft beer and ultimately, us being, you know, the challengers that Yeah. We are.

Courtney Rominiyi [00:16:49]:
Those are the people who we're trying to get because, like, there's no way you don't like this, honestly. You know? Really trying to dig in and and understand what it is that, you know, may cause hesitation or lack of interest and, you know, kind of alter their mindsets around craft beer to show them that it is something that, you know, Can be for everyone. So, yeah, that's that's been the journey, and I it's been a fun one. And I think we've done a good job Being a movement where we've exposed new communities to craft beer that would not, like I said, not naturally gravitate toward it, and showcasing beer in a new innovative way that allows people to see how diverse it really is, not just in in terms of the people involved, but the beverage itself. You know, There are different things that you can do. There are different flavor profiles. There are different, you know, ABVs. Like, there are so many different components And go into making a high quality craft beer, then you can eventually find what you want.

Courtney Rominiyi [00:17:46]:
And, you know, to boobie Bobby's point I'm sorry. I was combining boozy and Bobby. To Bobby's point about not making this a beer too boozy, yeah, we really wanted to kinda strike a A balance to show people that, you know, you can have a nice high quality flavorful beer that is easy to drink. But if you wanna, you know, take it up a notch, here's how you can take this easy, drinkable beer into a cocktail to to give you Something something more that you may be looking for.

Jacob Berg [00:18:17]:
My question for you, Courtney and Bobby, is I know that you all you've brewed a beer before that uses nuts because you brewed a brown ale last year. How did you all come about to get The butter pecan flavor into the beer because butter is often something that people don't look for in beer sometimes presents itself has an off flip.

Bobby Bump [00:18:41]:
So we're taking the route where we're going to add some extract into secondary. So after the beer is fermented out, We're gonna add in the secondary, and we're even considering kind of splitting the batch into 2, and having one that's The buttered pecan coffee stout. And then I've got some stout that's been aging in bourbon barrels for a while that I think I hadn't mentioned this to Courtney yet, but I think we're gonna incorporate that a little bit, into the second half of the batch. Yeah. So we can have 2 varieties of the same Base beer.

Courtney Rominiyi [00:19:13]:
Yeah. And, we chose the you know, to actually focus on that flavor specifically just because, you know, The excitement that Brandy just showed is why we chose it. You know, when we were just reflecting on different flavors that people would be excited about, that is kind of, You know, familiar or nostalgic, and that was the flavor that came to us, especially during the colder months. You know, I usually think of Ice cream, but I think just that flavor just gives you a kind of warm feeling that just makes you, you know, kinda feel warm and fuzzy aside until we're like, okay. This is a good flavor to to kinda settle on and to have a a beer coming out this time of the year. And it's a feeling that we wanted to have behind the beer.

Bobby Bump [00:19:54]:
I think the challenge for us will be finding that right balance of how much buttered pecan character we want to go into the beer. So, Courtney, we're gonna have to do some tastings together to find what ratio you wanna do. Definitely. But it's gonna be delicious. The base beer already tastes really good. So

Brandy Holder [00:20:12]:
Another quick pick question. What is your favorite local brewer, beer to grab? And it can't be your own, Bobby. Like, I can't. Citizen. What's your what's your go to? Quick quick. Don't think about it. Come back. Come on.

Bobby Bump [00:20:26]:
The cats won by Blue Jacket.

Brandy Holder [00:20:28]:
Oh, okay. Love cats.

Bobby Bump [00:20:31]:
Love cats. Yeah.

Brandy Holder [00:20:32]:
That's a good beer. Yeah.

Courtney Rominiyi [00:20:34]:
Courtney? My go to local is, Crap. No. Oh, gosh. Patricia, cut it out. Cut it out. But, no, It's, Black Beauty's Blood Orange Saison.

Brandy Holder [00:20:50]:
Oh, that's that's a beer. Cool.

Brandy Holder [00:20:52]:
Yeah. That's one of my

Jacob Berg [00:20:53]:
Courtney, I think that we'll actually be able to taste Black Beauty's Blood Orange says on at another event that we're doing. That's we DC Beer, You Black Room Movement and the good folks over at Metro Bar later on this month as well. Yeah.

Courtney Rominiyi [00:21:09]:
And Now that's

Brandy Holder [00:21:10]:
And this Saturday, tomorrow, Courtney is doing a pop up women's brew culture club tasting with a series of All the available local black owned beers at Bright Proper in Brooklyn. So we are just we're just highlighting Proper and black brew at this month as we should.

Bobby Bump [00:21:31]:
Well, I think the key there is is one thing I was thinking about was, is, You know, how can I, as a, you know, straight white 42 year old man, help, you know, Courtney and blackbird movement kind of, continue to grow? And it's like, I think the best thing I can do is just, you know, be consistent. Like, as, you know, like just Staying on top of doing this traditional brewer every year, just allow us you know, opening up our brewery to Courtney and Black movement and anybody else, really. But to just you know, we have an opportunity where we are, you know, flexible like that, where I can share the brew house. And, the more we can do it, I think the more opportunities we create to, for people to try beer, you know, and I think that's what, what, what it's all about. And, but Consistency is key. Right? Like anything you do in life, you have to do it consistently. Otherwise, you know, if you don't find it important, then other people aren't gonna find that important either. So, that's why I'm glad that Courtney's kept this tradition up, even while I took a hiatus, she still continued to Brew these collaboration beers at Right Proper with Barrett and, the team over there.

Bobby Bump [00:22:37]:
So it's been great to be a part of, you know, I feel very for it. So thank you, Courtney.

Courtney Rominiyi [00:16:49]:
Thank you. No. We appreciate you all for always being good partners and educating us along the way. You know? I mentioned, we aren't brewers by any means, but it is a important part to the mission that we have. And so Right Proper and Bobby have been an amazing team to to to learn and grow from in this beer space.

Michael Stein [00:23:04]:
So, Courtney, Tell me a little bit about when this beer is coming out, what we can expect with the release. The people wanna know, they're eager to try the beer, They wanna try the biertini. Where, when, how should we be expecting it?

Courtney Rominiyi [00:23:20]:
Yes. Yes. Yes. So we will be hosting a release happy hour on February 22nd at the Right Proper Shaw location. Time is still TBD. I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna go on a limb and say 5 to 8, but, that's that's our goal is to have a 5 to 8 slot. And There you'll be able to try our delicious beer and all its variations

Bobby Bump [00:23:46]:
Shouldn't.

Courtney Rominiyi [00:23:46]:
Including the beer tini. So that is what we have for you.

Brandy Holder [00:23:50]:
What about the name, or is it too soon to ask?

Courtney Rominiyi [00:23:53]:
I actually have it. I thought you I thought you were gonna ask me that. And I, Okay. Yeah. I literally just decided on the name this week, and I was gonna share this coming news for Bobby as well. Awesome. So there's We're the new first It's DC Beer. You guys are getting all the exclusives.

Bobby Bump [00:24:09]:
That's right.

Courtney Rominiyi [00:24:09]:
Yeah. So the name of the beer is The Dash. So that is the name, and The story behind it's kind of a trifecta. So, you know, Bobby and I, we talked while we were brewing and he asked, do you have a name? I was like, no. I kinda want to be, you know, by by the brewing process. And in that brewing process, Bobby and I had some great, great, great, great conversation about life, It's about parenthood, about legacy and fulfillment. And that conversation led me to, you know, think about a lot of things, Especially just the importance of life and and living it to the fullest. And I recently had a loss in the family.

Courtney Rominiyi [00:24:46]:
My, mom's older brother passed, And his birthday is actually coming up soon. And at his funeral, one of the eulogists really talked about The the importance of, quote, unquote, living the dash. So from sunrise to sunset, the important of living a good life, which made me think about Bobby conversation about parenting and, you know, fulfillment in life, and that led me to think about Black History Month. And, you know, the beauty of Black History Month As we get to celebrate people who have lived the day, who have made their impact on the world, who had made impact on our community. And through this beer, we're hoping to inspire people to to continue to live the dash, to live their lives to the fullest, to, you You know, make a statement to help their community to grow, to, you know, learn, you know, what their purpose is and and and have a Story to tell because their leg legacy is gonna live on through their family, through their friends, through their children, through their parents, or whomever they make contact with. And so that's The inspiration behind that name, and those are the 3 tiers that kind of led me to decide on that name. And so, yeah, that's what we wanna present to you all this month.

Bobby Bump [00:25:57]:
I love it.

Brandy Holder [00:25:57]:
Thank you, Courtney, for sharing that. We are all so very excited. Well, I'm excited. I can't speak for everybody, but I'm assuming everybody else is gonna be excited. Thank you for, dishing the details, on the dash. Bobby and Courtney, thank you tremendously for being on. We cannot wait to see you and work with you in the future. I'll see you soon.

Bobby Bump [00:26:17]:
Absolutely. Thanks, guys. Good to see your faces.

Brandy Holder [00:26:19]:
You, guys.

Jacob Berg [00:26:20]:
Thank you so much, Courtney. Thank you, Bobby. Again, we alluded to a couple events there. Brandy mentioned the Women's Brew Culture Club tomorrow at right proper. Details at dcbeer.com. The 22nd, that's a Thursday. Right proper Shaw, that's gonna be the dash beer release. And then a couple days later on the 24th, Metro Bar, Black Brew Movement, and DC Beer are hosting a tasting of black Brewers at Metro Bar.

Jacob Berg [00:26:54]:
We got everybody bringing a couple beers. You'll see the People's Pale Ale there. You'll see Jordan and Third Hills Homecoming IPA. It'll be a pretty good time. DC Beer will be there. Come hang out. Say hi. Alright.

Jacob Berg [00:27:10]:
Parting thoughts.

Brandy Holder [00:27:11]:
The DC Beer Show, a little crazy at times, always a little bit educational, welcoming, and always entertaining.

Michael Stein [00:27:19]:
I wanna I wanna echo what Courtney and Bobby said, specifically that we're about to see another one, another black brew movement beer Come down the pike at Right Proper. And Bobby said, you know, consistency in life. You wanna show up, and you wanna do it over and over again. And I Have to credit Courtney where it's due. Black Brew Movement has been showing up and showing out nonstop since we first featured them on DC Beer in 2019, And to see them do it with the audience in mind that they hope to cultivate, you know, Courtney is really conjuring and bringing into this world The change she wishes to see. And Bobby is playing his role and bringing forward the high quality product that we expect from him and now the high quality product that we expect from Rake proper and black brew movement. So we are so pumped, and we can't wait to see you at the release of The Dash.

Jacob Berg [00:28:15]:
Alright, folks. On that note, at DC beer across the socials, dcbeer.comanddcbeer.com/patreon. As Mike said, you do wanna get on that. We've got some interesting things coming down the pike. I mean, even if you're not local, we'll We'll still gladly take $5 a month from you. Your support means everything to us. It helps us cover the good news Just says it does the bad news, and we will see you out there. Alright.

Jacob Berg [00:28:42]:
Be well, everybody. Thanks.