When All Hell Breaks Loose

Is God still speaking… even when everything’s falling apart?

In this powerful episode of Stronger After the Storm, host Chris King sits down with speaker and leadership consultant Steve Johnson II to unpack what it really looks like to follow God when your marriage is on the rocks, your family’s in the balance, and your purpose feels distant.

From being raised in a ministry dynasty to nearly losing everything he loved, Steve shares how he found clarity, strength, and divine direction in the middle of chaos. This isn’t church talk — it’s real talk for anyone who’s ever asked, “God, is that really You?”

💡 You’ll hear how a moment in the club changed everything, what it means to “win someone’s heart,” and why hearing from God starts with relationship — not religion.

Whether you’re rebuilding your life, fighting for your family, or trying to make sense of what God is doing, this episode will meet you right where you are.

🔑 What You’ll Learn:
• How to hear God’s voice when the noise is loud
• Why some of the best growth happens after brokenness
• What it means to be a leader — even in failure
• How to fight for your marriage when walking away feels easier
• Why chasing “your more” might be blocking God’s more

Follow Steve on Instagram: @stevenejohnsonii
Connect on LinkedIn: Steven Johnson II

🔁 Share this episode with someone who needs to hear: “It’s not over — you’re just being rebuilt.”

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Creators and Guests

Host
Chris King
Chris King is the host of the “When All Hell Breaks Loose” (WAHBL) podcast, where he facilitates real, raw, and uplifting conversations about overcoming life’s toughest challenges. Through this platform, Chris aims to help listeners discover strength and hope during difficult times. His engaging discussions provide profound insights into finding light amidst adversity, guiding audiences to rise stronger.

What is When All Hell Breaks Loose?

WAHBL Podcast (When All Hell Breaks Loose) is your go-to source for real, raw, and uplifting conversations about overcoming life’s toughest challenges. Hosted by Chris King and Monique LaRue, this podcast dives deep into the personal stories of resilience, faith, and growth, providing practical advice on how to thrive when everything feels like it’s falling apart. Whether you’re navigating loss, career setbacks, or personal struggles, each episode offers inspiration, actionable steps, and a reminder that even in the darkest moments, there’s hope on the horizon. Tune in for empowering discussions, audience engagement, and thought-provoking interviews that will help you take life’s toughest blows and turn them into victories. For more information, please visit our website at https://wahblpodcast.com and follow us across social media @wahblpodcast

Chris King:

Sometimes to be who God has called us to be and to go where God has destined us to go, we have to make some decisions. But it's not always easy to know when is God that's telling us to move or if it's just our mind or if it's just something that we're just going through. Today, we're talking to my buddy Steve Johnson who definitely knows a thing about making decisions and letting God lead them when you have to make the tough calls. Steve, man, welcome. Thank you for joining me.

Steve Johnson III:

Thank you, brother. I appreciate it. Nice to be Nice to be here over there. Alright. Man, I appreciate the introduction, man.

Steve Johnson III:

I think that you you put a little spice on it, though. I mean, I know how to make some decisions. I don't know if there have always been the right ones, but definitely definitely. I've been in I've been in that situation a a few times or not.

Chris King:

Man, well, we've already started. They don't know that you already dropped some nuggets. I told you to stop. That's how I want everybody else to capture it. Yeah.

Chris King:

But you've already blessed me right now, so I know you're gonna drop some good stuff, but help us, man. Tell us a little bit about your story. Just, you know, just high level hip hop version, you know, just tell us a little bit where you from.

Steve Johnson III:

Man, well, originally from Sacramento, California. My whole family is from over there, my mother's side, father's side of the family. That's where I was born, but I was raised in Atlanta, Georgia, Metro Atlanta, Georgia area and a PK. I grew up in the church. That's the reason why my whole entire family migrated from the West Coast to down South to Atlanta.

Steve Johnson III:

And man just grew up in the church, grew up, you know, knowing God, grew up loving God. Then, you know, just like how a lot of PKs do, we hit a certain age and we lose our mind and we gotta go find it again, you know, but, but man, you know, I, I, while I was at church and I was a young kid, man, I met my wife who I knew at the time was going to be my wife. Her name is Bobby Johnson. I met her when I was 12 years old, 10, 10, 11, 12 years old.

Chris King:

You knew right then at 10 or 12 years

Steve Johnson III:

I knew right then, man. Let me tell you how much I knew about it, brother. Like I would tell my sisters. I would tell my mama, my daddy. I even told her mama.

Steve Johnson III:

I went to her mama and I said, I said, Hey, ma. She said, why are you calling me that? I said, well, because I'll marry your daughter. I'm talking, I'm 11, 12 years old telling this woman that I'm going to marry her daughter.

Chris King:

I'm a daddy of girl. Hey. If some knucklehead run up on me, say, hey, dude. It's on. And

Steve Johnson III:

get ready. Yes. Well, I'm a take brace yourself, sir. How many daughters you got?

Chris King:

I got three.

Steve Johnson III:

Okay, man. But brace

Chris King:

cute, man. Everything. I'm like, look. I'm already strapped. Look.

Chris King:

I'm telling you.

Steve Johnson III:

Already lock and loaded.

Chris King:

Yes, sir.

Steve Johnson III:

Well, man, so so that was that story, man. And fast forward years later, I did my whole wilding out in my teen years, young adult years and 23 is when, so just a long story short, I'm pretty sure we'll probably get into it, but man, you know, my, my, who I said was going to be my wife at the time we lost touch, you know, she grew up for she's, she's a little bit older than me. So she was far more wise and advanced than I was. Right. And she went off to do her thing.

Steve Johnson III:

I was doing my thing. And then it was one, it was Halloween night, two thousand and five. We ran into each other in the club. Okay. All right.

Steve Johnson III:

So I got my shades on that. This is when, you know, was cool to wear shades in the club. Right. So I'm wearing shades brother and I'm at the bar. Right.

Steve Johnson III:

And it's me and my homeboy. And I mean, like, this is, okay. So imagine 02/2005 in the club, how you dress. Right? Like everything is, is big bomber jackets, like, you know, t shirts, jeans, Timberland boots, all of that.

Steve Johnson III:

Right. And so I feel this tap on the shoulder and I turn around out now, now mind you, I haven't seen Bobby in maybe five, six years. I'm a grown man now.

Chris King:

Yeah.

Steve Johnson III:

Right. So the last time I saw her, I was a little teenager. Right. So dude, I turned around, but when I tell you if there was any cool I had in that club, it left immediately, dude. I saw her and was like, oh my god.

Steve Johnson III:

Dude, the glasses fell off. I'm giving her a hug or whatever, but the crazy thing about it was she was there with her boyfriend. But you know, but you know, it didn't brother because we're right. Right. Right.

Steve Johnson III:

Does he make you

Chris King:

happy? Well,

Steve Johnson III:

know, fast forward several years later, we just celebrated our eighteenth year anniversary. So, so we did

Chris King:

I see how you even tell a story now, man. Hey, she still got you.

Steve Johnson III:

Oh, brother. Oh, brother. The wrapped around her finger all day long, man. So it's a beautiful thing, man. Man, I mean, but in between this, this eighteen year journey, right.

Steve Johnson III:

Of being married of us having children together, Bobby, Bobby, when we got married she already had a two year old daughter. And that was so here I am. I am 20. I got married when I was 23 years old. So Bobby and I, we start really officially dating when I was 22.

Steve Johnson III:

Okay. And I was immature. I was, you know, I was in the streets. It was, you know, living by, you know, the same pants, man. But I knew that Bobby and I were in love and we wanted to do this and make this work.

Steve Johnson III:

And I always knew that I wanted to, to get married at a young age or whatever. And she was the same way, but immediately when I got married, I was an instant dad. Yeah. And that, and I had to shift. I had to grow up, man.

Steve Johnson III:

When I tell you, like, had to grow up, not, not to be a, to be a good husband. I had to grow up to be a great father. I had to really grow up because I didn't know and I had no practice time.

Chris King:

And how long do you think it took you from from that time of marriage and becoming an instant dad Yeah. Until you would consider yourself, okay, not necessarily good, but decent?

Steve Johnson III:

Eighteen years?

Chris King:

Yeah. No. It's just it's real. Right. Right.

Chris King:

Because because it's constant process. It never stops.

Steve Johnson III:

Brother, fatherhood is is is is honestly not is is one of those things where you never say I've arrived.

Chris King:

Yeah.

Steve Johnson III:

Right? Like as a father, you never say I've arrived to this moment where I'm a, I'm a great dad. Yeah. I'm a good dad because there's always seasons in your children's lives where you have to be different or you have to, you have to transform. You have to grow up with in a certain area with you.

Steve Johnson III:

So I'll never forget. So my dad was when he married my mom, my mom had two daughters already. Those are my older sisters. Now, mind you, I didn't know that I didn't know that my older sisters had different fathers until I was a teenager. It wasn't because my parents were keeping that information against me, it was just the love that he showed us to was so equal.

Steve Johnson III:

Yeah. And it was nothing different between how he loved my sisters and me and then my younger sister that I never knew. Mhmm. Right? I never I I until I start, you know, you get older, you start asking questions about your family history, and then that's when they told me that, Oh yeah, by the way, your older sisters are, you know, I'm not the biological father of your older sisters.

Steve Johnson III:

So, which blew my mind, right? So as I'm now in this situation where I am fathering a daughter who is not my biological daughter, she's two years old, so she's old enough to know you ain't my daddy, Right? And so and so and she giving me that type of you ain't my daddy energy, bro. You know I'm saying? Ain't gonna lie.

Steve Johnson III:

I'm not even gonna lie. I was like, I would tell them my wife, like, you better get your No, but the thing was is that I never forget. There are certain moments and conversations that you have in your life that you'll never forget. Yeah. I had this conversation with my dad and I said, dad, I said, I don't know what to do in this situation because, you know, literally this child, this was like right before we got married, right when we got married, somewhere in that time, and I'm trying to build this relationship with this two year old girl, right?

Steve Johnson III:

And, and, but I wanted to be as organic as possible. And I called my dad and I was like in tears, dude, because I'm like, you know, I don't want this to be a disaster. What do I do? He gave me the greatest advice that he could give anyone in this situation. He said, you have to win her heart.

Steve Johnson III:

When he told me that it was like, because I started thinking to myself, I'm trying to, I'm trying to get her to come into my world. Yeah. Let me come into hers. So in that moment, Darius was her name is Darius D a r u s and she, At the time was very, inquisitive. She was always wanting to learn different things like, and so me and her, we start watching, a show together.

Steve Johnson III:

We start watching door together. Right. And that was our show that we would watch. And she was she loved to speak Spanish.

Chris King:

But who knows?

Steve Johnson III:

Right. Right. Right. Yeah. So I knew it.

Steve Johnson III:

I knew a little bit. I knew some Yeah. Quiquito. Right?

Chris King:

You know, do a little bit. Right? Back

Steve Johnson III:

in back back in the day, no, for real, I used to be able to hold my own.

Chris King:

Right? Man, I know. I knew math.

Steve Johnson III:

Dude, listen. Those songs are ingrained in my head. So what I started doing with her was I started teaching her Spanish. Mhmm. I started teaching her different colors and, you know, different fruits.

Steve Johnson III:

And then we kind of start talking a little bit. And when I tell you that that opened up a door that I never thought would be opened and she hurt the barriers just went down and it was that and some other things, but it was just that the, the conversation, the advice that my father gave me of son win her heart, which totally changed the direction of the relationship. So you are now a father and fast forward to now, you you you have, you know, you y'all have had a few more kids, right?

Chris King:

Yeah. So you have a total of how many? Four. Four. So four kids.

Chris King:

Yes. So you came into fatherhood, not necessarily the the picture perfect

Steve Johnson III:

For sure.

Chris King:

Picture. Right? The picture perfect I or ideal scenario. Yeah. Right?

Chris King:

Yeah. So you you're coming from one particular life, right, in regards to being in the church Mhmm. And then stepping away Mhmm. And doing your thing, meeting your wife, who you met at at church Mhmm. When you was 12, which you lopes on, you know?

Chris King:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You were here at twelve.

Chris King:

But everything is now is is not the ideal picture perfect

Steve Johnson III:

For sure.

Chris King:

This is how we would have wanted Steve to go through it. Right? So tell me a little bit more about how you so now you're a father, but in between that time, like, when you took that step away even from from church and just finding your way.

Steve Johnson III:

Yeah. Right? So you're asking like the time before?

Chris King:

Yeah. The time before leading leading up to that.

Steve Johnson III:

So, you know, at the time it was in the late nineties, early '2 thousands. I mean, everything was about, you know, being bigger, being better, you know, everything was glitz. Everything was glamour. Everything was like street, like that's when, you know, drugs was sweeping through, especially the South and through Metro Atlanta with different, you know, gangs and things of that nature or whatever. And so growing up in that, that's what had enticed me.

Steve Johnson III:

And I wanted to be a part of that because it looked enticing, right? It looked, you know, it looked fun. You know, I was, I was young, I was making money. And I wanted to make even faster money and it was like, this is an avenue. I knew, so I knew a few people here.

Steve Johnson III:

I knew a few people there, so it wasn't hard for it for me to find it because it was already there. So I went into that lifestyle, was like, was one of those confused people because it was like, ain't know what I wanted to do. I mean, because in the core of me, the foundation that was built was always there that had never left, but even though it didn't show always on the outside, but on the outside, what I wanted to do was I wanted to run the streets. I wanted to be in the strip clubs. I wanted to go to, you know, I wanted to spend a thousand dollars every weekend, dollars 2,000 every weekend on liquor and VIP sections.

Steve Johnson III:

And, you know, I wanted to, you know, make it rain in the clothes that that's, that's what I wanted to do. And I did it. Right. But then it was a part of me that was always unfulfilled. And it was like a gaping hole.

Steve Johnson III:

And here's, here's another great conversation I had with my dad. This is when I kind of first started as a teenager, 17, 18, 19 years old, getting into that lifestyle. Physically, I would feel like hungry all the time. And, you know, you're a

Chris King:

grown boy.

Steve Johnson III:

70, 18, 19. Right? But let me tell you how slick my dad was. He always used stuff like this as a learning moment. So I'm like, man, dad, I just, you know, me and my dad, we just have these conversations like, man, well, how you feeling?

Steve Johnson III:

You know, what's going on? You know, just kind of like he, and later in life, realized these was these conversations of, are you having sex? Are you protecting yourself? You know, he was trying to dig deep and find that. But I remember telling him, I said, man, I don't know what it is.

Steve Johnson III:

I feel like I just eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, I can't get filled. And he said, son, that's God. He's like, That's that hunger inside of you, that guy. Dude, when I tell you this dude was so sick, was like, No, I

Chris King:

still need a snick of it.

Steve Johnson III:

When I tell you this dude was so slick, man, he made me be like, You know what, dad? You might be right. This might be God saying, I'm not feeling myself enough with him, and that's why I have this void. You know what I'm a do? I'm a keep on adding these streets.

Steve Johnson III:

See if you're right, dad. I'm keep on doing that. But I mean, I came back and I, and what it was honestly was it was running into Bobby again. That made me turn my life around. Man.

Steve Johnson III:

Because if I, if I didn't run into her that night, there's no telling. Yeah. But I promise you, man, you wouldn't be sitting right here Man.

Chris King:

Man. So you, when you say you were a PK, you sort of glossed over that. You weren't really just a P, you weren't just like a PK, like, my folks come from Mississippi. Yeah, yeah. And so being a PK in Mississippi was Yeah, my preacher come every once every two or twice every month.

Chris King:

Know I'm saying? It's like, that's a different PK. Right?

Steve Johnson III:

For sure.

Chris King:

Got the cemetery in the back of the church. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Chris King:

But you were more like what we would have considered from country Mississippi church, like, more church royalty, so to speak. Right? Yeah. You had a thriving ministry. Right.

Chris King:

I mean, and and, you know, it wasn't just your your father, it was Right. You know, other family members. Right? So it was just more than just Yeah. You know, like PK.

Chris King:

So what did that look like with the expectations of PK and now you're hungry for the Lord? You know? It's like, what did that look like? And what decisions were you how did you make those decisions?

Steve Johnson III:

Yeah. We and and to your point, yes, it it was, a big family that was all in the ministry. My uncle is a bishop in Metro Atlanta area. My father is a pastor that was ordained by his by his brother, Bishop Flynn Johnson. My dad is Steve Johnson.

Steve Johnson III:

All of the brothers were all in the in the ministry together. My uncle David, my uncle Ricky, my uncle Rodney. I mean, my father was in it. My aunt Debbie was married to BB Winans. So we used to have these church appreciations to where, pastor Creflo dollar would be there.

Steve Johnson III:

Bishop Eddie long would be there. Bishop TD Jakes would come. I mean, and this is before they, they blew up, you know, to what they eventually became to be. I mean, at the height of our church, our church was probably anywhere between 3,000 to 4,000 members. So it was very well known, right?

Steve Johnson III:

So, and like we, it was a lot of us. So I just named all the dads and, and, and my, my aunt was married to, you know, gospel royalty. Right. And so there was this huge expectation of what we were going to be. But the thing was like, even though from the outside looking in, that's what it was.

Steve Johnson III:

I always felt like my, my side of the, of the family, my Johnson flag, right. Was like the black sheep of the family. So, but the expectations were still very high. My family is very talented. Singers, dancers, writers, music producers, everything.

Steve Johnson III:

And the crazy thing was, it's very musically inclined, my family. I am not all the way. Now, now, will will say this. I will say this. I used to rap.

Steve Johnson III:

Yeah. That's awesome. I used to rap. Right? I I I used to I used to be a part of a rap group, but I mean, that wasn't like, was good.

Steve Johnson III:

Yeah. And don't don't get me wrong. Don't get me wrong. But when I tell you that I come from a family that's excellent in this, like I was good, but they are like, they are like upper echelon type. So So

Chris King:

when I look at people like, yeah, I can't rap. You know what I'm saying? It's like, I played the tuba. It was like, that ain't cool. Know I'm saying?

Chris King:

So I look at that, I'm like, dang, the rap, man. Yeah. You know?

Steve Johnson III:

No, and music is in me. Music is in me. I mean, I played the trumpet. I'm a lover of all type of genres of music and everything like that. But I knew that my calling wasn't in music per se.

Steve Johnson III:

I always knew that my calling, my true calling was in speaking and in preaching. Right? So I remember, you know, one day after church and, you know, we used to have churches to be three hours. Right? Three, four hours.

Steve Johnson III:

And then after that, there was an elders meeting at the So, so everybody's gone. It's like 02:00 in the afternoon. Right. I'm in the church. I'm in the, the, the worship center.

Steve Johnson III:

And it's just me in there. And so I get up in the pulpit and I'm standing at the podium to an empty, empty church. And there's a Bible right there. And I just say, I'm a flip to any verse and start preaching. How old are you?

Steve Johnson III:

Dude, I gotta be, I don't know, nine, 10, you know what I'm saying? Just playing. Right. And, and I flipped to it and I just found a verse and I started preaching one day. I was like, this sound good.

Steve Johnson III:

And I was looking around. Was like, anybody hear that? Is it just me? Right. And so, but then I kind of, I kind of knew then that God was going to bless me in that way, in that aspect of using my voice, using and then later in life, I realized that, okay, God is going to use my leadership, that he's been grooming me in to impact the lives of hundreds to thousands of people.

Chris King:

So with that, so you feel called. Right? You feel you know that God has Yeah. Has something more for you. Right?

Chris King:

Every time I hear you talk, I always hear, like, a theme of it where it's like, man, I know there's more for me. Right? And so you're nine, ten, preaching in the pulpit, empty seats. Yeah. And then you go on, you have musical abilities.

Chris King:

Yeah. Maybe not like, you know, upassing people. But you still have those capabilities and you know that you're groomed for a leader. Mhmm. How did that resonate with you as you took a step back and started running the streets?

Steve Johnson III:

Mean, from the standpoint of it never left, like I still knew it was there. So it was just, I've, in every situation that I've been in since I was 14 years old, 12 years old, I've always been the leader. I've always been like, I've never been the one that was, you know, one of the sheep that was just kind of falling. Like, even when I didn't necessarily look for the leadership mantle, people would be like, oh, Steve is gonna, like, like, hey, y'all, this is a group of people, we need to pick a leader, it's like, oh, Steve's gonna be, Steve, and I'll be like, me, you know what I'm saying? And not on some old, you know, fake humble like, oh, man.

Steve Johnson III:

Right. But but but, you know, sometimes when I wasn't even, you know, searching for it or looking for it, it would still follow me. So I knew that it was always there even when it was the streets, and that was the dangerous thing. Right? Because the dangerous thing is like this, like, the devil will tell you straight up, you can still be Yeah.

Steve Johnson III:

You can still Yeah. Use these talents. Yeah. Just use them over here. Yeah.

Steve Johnson III:

And and for me, I was like You're okay. I was like, devil, you might be you might be on something. I can still be a leader amongst men and be and do that over here in this light

Chris King:

Mhmm.

Steve Johnson III:

And still run the streets and and and and, you know, whatever lust I have, whatever greed I have feel that thing as much as I can and still use the talents that God has given me because see the thing about your God given talents is is when he gives them to you, he gives them to you, you know, I don't necessarily believe that I'm not a believer in that God would take the talents away. Think that he'll take the opportunities away for you to use those talents and those gifts.

Chris King:

And

Steve Johnson III:

that was the thing that scared me the most. It was like, knew that I was called to do something great, but it was like, if I don't turn things around, then God is going to take the opportunities away from me to where I can really showcase them and use them to the best of my ability. That makes sense.

Chris King:

Yeah. No, that makes a hundred Yeah. That makes a lot of sense. And so now coming into it, meet Bobby.

Steve Johnson III:

Right. Right. Right. And it's

Chris King:

like, I wanna turn my life around.

Steve Johnson III:

Yeah. Right?

Chris King:

Yeah. It's like before it's like, okay. Yeah. Alright, daddy. Yeah.

Chris King:

But this is a little bit more appealing. But when you meet her, it's like, no, I want to now.

Steve Johnson III:

For sure. Right? But it didn't come it didn't come that it didn't come like that instant. Dude, I was out Bobby and I got, okay. So everything was great when we were dating.

Steve Johnson III:

First of all, you know, I had my own place. Bobby was a sports marketer that was living in Detroit. She was a sports market for the Detroit Pistons and the Lions and the Tigers and all of that. And I convinced her to quit her job and come live with me, come back home with me. And we did that.

Steve Johnson III:

We played house for a good six, seven, eight months, right? Got pregnant, everything. And then 12/08/2006, we like, okay, we're gonna get married, we're gonna make

Chris King:

it

Steve Johnson III:

official. And literally when we said, I do, that's when all the hell broke loose. When I tell you that immediately, it was like, I don't even know this person. I it was like, she I didn't know her, she didn't know me. But later on, we realized what what what was happening was the whole time we was playing house.

Steve Johnson III:

Mhmm. And the whole time we was acting like husband and wife. God was not the foundation of that. But then as soon as we get married, now now it's like, okay, God. Let's invite him here.

Steve Johnson III:

Let's show you how far we've gotten. Yeah. Let's show you how far we've come here. Come meet us over here. And God was like, nah, come on back.

Steve Johnson III:

Let's start this thing over. And whatever we thought we built, we had to break it down and start all over. Dude, I didn't think my marriage was gonna last for two years.

Chris King:

Wow.

Steve Johnson III:

I didn't I didn't think so.

Chris King:

So so now, okay, now we're getting into the decision making. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right?

Chris King:

Because now you're having to make decisions. You you all hell is breaking loose. Mhmm. And you're like, okay, well, you now have to decide what do we do?

Steve Johnson III:

Yeah. Right? Yeah.

Chris King:

What do what do I do as a man, as a husband, you know, given the foundation that's been laid, what do I do? And how did you well, of course, you decided to stay, you wouldn't have made it eighteen years.

Steve Johnson III:

No. She decided to stay. So a lot of times people think that it's the, it's the, and a lot of times it is, right? It's the man that walks away and leaves. There was one day I woke up and everybody was gone.

Steve Johnson III:

At the time we had two kids, had our daughter Darius and we had, Bobby just had our son, Stevie. And he was probably about three, four months old. And I woke up one day and because I worked nights at the job I was at, at the time and everybody was gone, but, and that that's normal sometimes because she'll take the kids, she'll go to the park and she'll go grocery shopping or whatever. But in this moment I woke up and something just didn't feel right. Like the house felt a little bit more empty than normal.

Steve Johnson III:

So, you know, 01:00 came, 02:00 came, 03:00. And so I get on the phone and I'm like, Hey, where you at? You know? But she not answering. And then finally she pick up the phone at like 05:00 and, you know, and we got one car at a time.

Steve Johnson III:

And she was like, yeah, I'm I'm I'm gone. And I'm like, go, go, go where? Oh, what? To the store? Oh yeah.

Steve Johnson III:

And that's when things got real for me. Right. That's when things got real because I realized that if I didn't make a change, then everything that I knew that God had planned for me and in store for me, I could lose it. And so I was like, these streets ain't worth it. This lifestyle I'm trying to still live is not worth it.

Steve Johnson III:

I'm ready to give it up because I can't lose my family.

Chris King:

So, man, I I hear so much in that because it's like now you've attached value

Steve Johnson III:

Right.

Chris King:

To not just well, actually to what God has blessed you with, not just the gifts. Mhmm. Right? But you realize that he blessed you with the family. Yeah.

Chris King:

And so now you've attached value to it, and you're saying, hold on. Hold on. The price I gotta pay Yeah. Right, to go play and have a little bit of fun Mhmm. Ain't worth the same value here that I'm placing on this.

Chris King:

And so now, I'm at a I'm at a crossroads. Yeah. Right? One of the things I I tell people all the time is like, man, so many of us know the cost of everything, don't know the value of anything. Come on now.

Chris King:

You know, so it's like you'll you'll hear people talk about, oh yeah, I got this for such and such amount of Right? And it's cool, but it's like, what's the value?

Steve Johnson III:

Right.

Chris King:

Right? That's something different. What's the worth? Yeah. And a lot of times we will sit here and throw away the world.

Chris King:

What God has blessed us with because we may be a little uncomfortable and we have not sat here and said what the worth and the value is. Yeah. But you said, okay. I recognize the value Mhmm. In this, and I'm not willing to pay that cost to give it up.

Chris King:

Right. Right? So but so she comes back. Right?

Steve Johnson III:

Yeah. She comes back. And, you know, and there's a theme that you'll hear in through, through the entire, my entire adult life. Right. Is this theme of I'm going back.

Steve Johnson III:

And I'm, and I'm asking my parents for advice. So my parents are well known marriage counselors and I called, you know, immediately when she told me she was gone, I called my dad. You know, dad, Bobby done left me. You know what I'm saying? So so we going through that or whatever.

Steve Johnson III:

And she was gone for like a couple days. I didn't know where she was I I was like, she at her mama house, she had a friend house, something, she got the kids, whatever. But I just didn't know. Lo and behold, she was at my parents' house. And this I didn't notice until years later.

Chris King:

Did they it made it to Hey, you found it. She's like, yeah, What'd you expect?

Steve Johnson III:

So listen, I know. No. No. The the crazy thing is I'm calling them and they didn't let me know that she was over there. They just kept it cool.

Steve Johnson III:

It wasn't till like years later that they was like, oh yeah, when Bobby left, she came over to the house

Chris King:

just to let

Steve Johnson III:

you know. So anyway, I'm like, y'all gotta come over. We gotta we need to all sit down and talk. It was a it was the next day they came over and, or a couple days later they came over and Bobby was there and she and I just remember, her being extremely cold, like, very calloused, very like, you know, it just she didn't look at me the same, it was I didn't feel the warmth, nothing. And her and I, I was sitting right here, Bobby was sitting over there, my parents were sitting across from us, and I remember they were talking to us, and then, you know, I started talking, and I remember there was a moment where I said, I don't want to lose my family.

Steve Johnson III:

And I put my head in my hands and I bawled, like, tears just coming down my eyes because God had showed me a glimpse of what life would be like without your family and without this union. And then also, not that, but then what life is gonna be like for your children that now they're gonna have to come up and to split like, he showed me that quick in, like, in, like, seconds. And I said, no. No. No.

Steve Johnson III:

No. That's not my life. And at that moment, I was like, I'll do whatever I need to do to to to get it right.

Chris King:

Let's stay right here. Yeah. Because, one, we're talking about stuff that I don't know we were gonna talk about, which is great. Mhmm. But we're we're talking about how you you've heard God, one, had the foundation.

Chris King:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You went to you had the parents to where you could go to.

Steve Johnson III:

For

Chris King:

sure. And so you you sought counsel. Right? Yeah. And in these moments, a lot of times, you know, people don't necessarily get those glimpses of, hey, this is what it's gonna be like.

Chris King:

You know, when when you say that, I think of Christmas Carol, the ghost of Christmas, you know. Christmas. Yeah. You know. So we don't people don't always get that.

Chris King:

So when you're going through this, I'm quite I'm I'm wondering what is it that a lot of people we tend to turn to what we have. Yeah. Right? You had parents, you had a solid foundation.

Steve Johnson III:

For sure. For sure.

Chris King:

What most people have is social media. Yep. Right? So you were a little bit further ahead in understanding, nah, this is God. Yeah.

Chris King:

Right? And so if it's social media, man, I'm getting what I'm used to searching for.

Steve Johnson III:

That's a great question.

Chris King:

Right? So Yeah. What what does that look like in regards to, okay, this is this is God showing me this, that you don't wanna lose your family because I've given you all of this.

Steve Johnson III:

Well, Chris, I'll say this. So in that time of my life, I'll be honest. Like I, I, it was harder for me to hear God. Right. So that's why I was going to my parents a lot because I know that they were hearing from God.

Steve Johnson III:

So I was like, if I can't necessarily hear and I don't, and I'm not sure, cause it's very, it's polluted and it's a lot of noise. Then let me go to somebody that's hearing clear. Right? That was, that was the young 20. Right?

Steve Johnson III:

Yeah. And that was the first just got married. But as I, as I got older, I couldn't just keep going back to that. Of my mom and my dad, thankfully, you know, they're still here, you know, you know, living or whatnot and vibrant and doing their thing, but like, it was easy access when they were in the Metro Atlanta area, my parents in the last twelve years moved away, they live twelve, thirteen, almost fourteen years now, they're in Dallas, Texas, so sure I can call them, but but I used to be able to just to go over there. So, but the thing is, how do I start hearing God for myself?

Steve Johnson III:

Yeah. How do I start knowing that that's God, right? God, there's a few times in my life where I'm like, oh, I know this is God. When God told me to marry Bobby, when God told me to leave my seventeen year career at UPS, and also when God told me to leave Eagle's Nest and which I'm a member at now, my family and I were there now, but those are times when I know that God told me to do so.

Chris King:

Now,

Steve Johnson III:

go ahead.

Chris King:

Hit hit that. Uh-huh. Wanna hit every last one of those.

Steve Johnson III:

Okay. I

Chris King:

know people are trying to wonder, okay, is this God telling me to marry this woman? Yeah yeah yeah yeah. Is this God telling me to do my job? Is Yeah. God alright.

Chris King:

You know what I'm So I wanna say that, but I want you to go hit Alright. Every last one specific.

Steve Johnson III:

Alright. Well, first off, let me say let me let me say this though. Because hearing God's voice is the the the way that you know that God is talking to you is number one, you are in a relationship with him. Mhmm. Case in point, my children, we can be anywhere.

Steve Johnson III:

We can be at a game at one of their schools. We can be in a crowded area. It doesn't matter. They can be ten, twenty, 30, 40, 50 feet away from me. But when they call me, it could be a hundred kids saying dad, dad, dad.

Steve Johnson III:

But when I hear that one voice or those few voices, oh, know that's my children. Vice versa. When I'm calling out to them, I can say son, my boys will be like, that's dad. And the reason being is because they have a relationship with me. We speak on a regular basis.

Steve Johnson III:

See how you know God is talking to you is because you're talking to God Right. On a regular basis. Because you can't go seasons, you can't go days, weeks, months, years without talking to God, communing with Him, having a relationship with Him, and then all of a sudden out of nowhere you're like God I need an answer about this and then expect God to give you an answer, no no no no, what you're gonna do is you're hear, you gonna you gonna hear your inner self talking, you gonna go to social media, like you said, you gonna go listen to, you know, your friends or whatever and it's gonna be a whole bunch of noise and you don't know what God is saying. So to me personally, the voice of God sounds like my dad's voice because that's who I've always gone to as a young man to go seek advice. So then, when I realized that my relationship with God one thing that I always envied about my father, and I wouldn't say envy, but I but would always Respect.

Steve Johnson III:

Respected and just loved about him was his relationship with God. There there are mornings when I would wake up and he's at the kitchen table Mhmm. Or he's face down on the floor and he's praying or whatever and I'm like, I want that same relationship. So as I as I got older and I started to get that relationship with God, then God started talking to me. Mhmm.

Steve Johnson III:

And I start hearing him very distinct distinctly and it starts sounding like my dad's voice. Mhmm. Now what God sounds like to you, I don't know. Right. Right.

Steve Johnson III:

But or or to anybody else that may be listening, but I would say that in order to hear him, you gotta speak be in constant communication with So I I so to to your question, what was the first one as far as yeah.

Chris King:

So you had several you had you named three distinct moments where God told you to do something. Yeah, man. The first was Mary and Bobby.

Steve Johnson III:

Yeah. So I was in

Chris King:

a

Steve Johnson III:

relationship with another young lady and just great, great person. Right? And it's so funny because, you know, when you're in it and people from the outside, they'd like, oh my Steve, that

Chris King:

look, you and so and so, y'all look so good together. Y'all man. Y'all are go

Steve Johnson III:

y'all going y'all kids going da da da da da. Y'all gonna, you know, y'all gonna do such such great things, but there was something that I was like, something just don't feel right, God. And I don't know what it is. Now granted, I was still like in the streets. Yeah.

Steve Johnson III:

But again that core, that Jesus

Chris King:

door was still So,

Steve Johnson III:

but I remember, dude, I remember It didn't sometimes let me tell you something. It didn't matter how crazy I was in the streets or or my lifestyle. There were times where I'd just be like, man, I'm a fast. I need to I need to fast real quick. You know, I need to go on a two week fast or something like that.

Steve Johnson III:

And and this was one of those times where we were going through merit premarital counseling and things were coming up in this premarital counseling that I was like, you know, like red flags. Mhmm. And I'm pretty sure she probably had red flags too. Right? And so I was like, god, I don't know if this is the right person.

Steve Johnson III:

Mhmm. And I remember one day I was in I was over my parents' house, and I went to my old room, and I was praying in there. And, dude, I was in there, and I was crying because I was like, God, I don't I was like, I love her. Yeah. But I just don't know if she's the right one for me.

Steve Johnson III:

And I was like, I don't know what I'm gonna do. Do you guess who walks in my room? Bobby. No. Your daddy.

Steve Johnson III:

My dad. Yeah, your daddy. My daddy. My daddy. My dad walks in

Chris King:

my room. Thought it was Bobby.

Steve Johnson III:

And he's like he's like no. And here's the crazy thing. I, like, I hadn't seen I don't I hadn't seen Bobby in five, six years. Right? Like, she

Chris King:

was she I don't Right. Right. She was I

Steve Johnson III:

I wasn't thinking of her. Yeah. I was thinking of So

Chris King:

you was talking about the other was praying about the other woman.

Steve Johnson III:

I was praying about the the other woman. And so my dad was like, what's up, son? You alright? And I was like, dad, I just don't know if so and so is is the right one for me. And I wanted him in that moment

Chris King:

Yeah.

Steve Johnson III:

To tell me, You're right, son. She ain't the one for you, right? But he didn't do that. And so I left the conversation like, Dang, dad. But he, you know, he gave me some great advice to keep praying.

Steve Johnson III:

Ask God for a son. And I said, alright. So I was praying, and I asked God for a sign. I said, God, let I said, without a shadow of a doubt, when when something happens, I said, I'm not gonna tell you what it is. I said, but when this thing happens, I know that this woman is not for me and I don't need to continue pursuing it.

Steve Johnson III:

Months had passed. I still remember the prayer I the prayer I I prayed. Me and this young lady were still together or whatever, but things is kinda rocky. I'm in the club. Halloween night.

Chris King:

Shut up, man. Listen, man. Listen. I don't fall asleep. Listen, brother.

Chris King:

I'm a movie. I'm like, bro. What happened? Brother, I'm in

Steve Johnson III:

the club, bro. I'm in the club. Listen. I'm a tell you like this. God can talk to you wherever you are.

Steve Johnson III:

God can talk to can

Chris King:

give him time, man. Sometimes I gave

Steve Johnson III:

him time. Gave him time. Yeah. I I I didn't put it. I didn't put him in a box.

Chris King:

Yeah.

Steve Johnson III:

I didn't say, God, you gotta give me a sign on this day Yeah. And it's gotta be this. Yeah. No. I said, God, I want it so I want it to hit me upside my head so hard that when it happens, I know that shit.

Steve Johnson III:

Yeah. Dude, I'm in the club, dude. I'm not even thinking about not circle. No. I I didn't think.

Steve Johnson III:

And then literally, I get a tap on my shoulder.

Chris King:

Man.

Steve Johnson III:

And it is the woman, the girl who is now the woman that I fell in love with years ago that I hadn't seen or talked to in five, six years. Wow. And there she is standing in my face. Now, mind you this, when I was 10, 11 years old, let me tell you how in love I was with her. I used to write letters at the beginning of the year, I used to write a letter to God and it was like a like a prayer list.

Steve Johnson III:

And number 14, I still got that letter, brother. Number 14 on that prayer list was, God, please help Bobby love me the way that I love her. Dude, that was like, I dated that that letter. Bro. Dude, I still have that.

Steve Johnson III:

I showed it to her, like, I still got that. So understand that that's that that that that's the love I had for her. Now, I hadn't seen her. She's out of sight, out of mind. I thought that that was just a love loss, whatever.

Steve Johnson III:

Dude, I'm in the club, and she tapped me on my shoulder and I see her and I'm like, God, Jesus!

Chris King:

Man, you That is you! She would show her that letter, she'd have left her man that day. She's like, I'm jealous.

Steve Johnson III:

Well, here's the funny thing, I think that when she saw me Mhmm. And I saw her, I think right then and there, both of us knew that our lives would forever change. Wow. That nothing would be the same. Wow.

Steve Johnson III:

Didn't know how it would work. Didn't know when it would work. But both of us knew. First of all, I was like, I'm never gonna let her out of my sight again.

Chris King:

Yeah.

Steve Johnson III:

I was like, that's it. I found you. I got you. I'm grown now. Oh, man.

Steve Johnson III:

I got

Chris King:

my own money. So now. Yeah. Let me jump ahead though. Yeah.

Chris King:

She leaves now. You feel like you mismanaged what God had blessed me.

Steve Johnson III:

Dude, it broke my heart. That's why I'm balling. That's why I got my head in my hands and I'm boohooing because because everything that I, that I love, I'm literally and that God blessed me with. I'm literally losing it And I'm in real time. And I'm like, nah, God, nah, not like this.

Steve Johnson III:

Not like, it's like that Matrix movie when motherfucker is like, not like this. I was like, God, not

Chris King:

like this. Man. All right. So to really know first of all, you gotta have a communication with God, regularly communicate.

Steve Johnson III:

For sure. Right? For

Chris King:

sure. Then of

Steve Johnson III:

course To hear his voice clearly. Yeah.

Chris King:

Then of course, paint him paint him in a in a box.

Steve Johnson III:

Don't put him in a box.

Chris King:

So now we go to you leaving your job. Yeah, man. Corporate. Yeah. Yeah.

Chris King:

Yeah. Yeah. So you're leaving your job. So how did you know because these are all these are key moments in people's lives where people are seeking God. Right?

Chris King:

So I'm like, well, okay. Let's hit every last point. So now how did you feel God was telling you to leave your job and to to pursue? Well, know what you want to pursue, but, you know, let the let everybody else.

Steve Johnson III:

So there's a there's a thing called good discontent, right? To where I was like, God, I know that you want more from me, but I felt like I couldn't give him more because I was working sixty hour weeks, I was, you know, I couldn't serve in the church like I wanted to serve. At the time, I was an ordained elder at Eagle's Nest, and I I there there was a limit on what I could do, and I wanted to do impactful work, like, wanted to be impactful. I wanted what I what I woke up in the morning and I did every day, I wanted it to make a difference. Mhmm.

Steve Johnson III:

And I was like, I'm not making a difference here at UPS being a site lead, you know? Sure, I'm making a difference in people's lives to where, you know, I'm impacting them. They have a, they have a, I felt like I'm a good decent leader, you know, where I'm showing empathy, you know, I'm, I have the right amount of kind of bill, all that good stuff. Right? But the thing is, is that I'm like, Lord, there's gotta be something else.

Steve Johnson III:

And that was one of the scariest things that that I could have done. And here's the deal too, like, for me personally, one of the ways that I know that is God is does it scare the hell out of me? Like, it can I do this with just my own strength or will it take him to intervene on my behalf to make it work?

Chris King:

Yeah.

Steve Johnson III:

Now now here's the deal. Bobby's not working. We got four kids. I don't have a college degree at the time. And I'm the only income now.

Steve Johnson III:

The only income. I ain't got no college degree, but the reason why I've moved up the way that I have, I've been in this company for seventeen years. So, and then I've learned so much on the way there's so many skills that I've learned and all that good stuff. So, and they, they saw the value in me, they've moved me up, but I'm like, nah, God, there's something else that I had that I gotta be doing. And an opportunity came up to where the church Eagles Nest was growing at is going we went through a summer where God just blessed us.

Steve Johnson III:

Like he just breathed on the ministry to where we literally went from like 800 people to like 2,000 people in a matter of three months. And things were falling, you know, things were slipping out of our hands because we didn't have the infrastructure. So I remember I came to pastor Lee one day after an elders meeting, I said, Hey, man, how much would it be worth to you, you know, to have me come on full time, full time staff? And he thought about it, he was like, Man, I think that that'll be great. Now mind you, I am a site lead at UPS where I have over a thousand people that report to me directly or indirectly.

Steve Johnson III:

Dude, I'm paid. I get stocks every year. I have a 6 figure salary. Like I'm well into 6 figure salary. Like I'm paid.

Steve Johnson III:

Yeah, you're good. So I know that the church is not going to be able to match that. So when I tell you how you know for me, how knew that how I can tell when God is speaking to me or telling me to do something is, does it scare the hell out of me? And this scared me because it was I'm gonna give you an opportunity here's an opportunity for you to have the impact that you want but you're gonna have to trust me because it ain't the same type of money that you've been used to Dude, went from making probably total package, a hundred $8,200,000 to making, you know Not that.

Chris King:

Not that. At all, brother. That at all. It's like, no. And I'm

Steve Johnson III:

like, and people are like, you know, so my friends, colleagues at UPS are like, what are you doing? They're like, where are going? You know, what other fortune 500 company are you going to now? You know what? And I said, oh, I'm working my church.

Steve Johnson III:

And people are like, how many members does your church have? I said about 800, nine hundred. And people are looking at me like, you idiot. But I knew it was God telling me to do it. And, man, I'm so glad Man.

Steve Johnson III:

That I did that. So glad.

Chris King:

So real quick, before we wrap, lastly, how did you know it was God telling you to leave? Because one of the things that I've ex I've experienced is people saying, you know, God brought you to me, or God brought me Right? And then when something happens, they're quick to go. Right? Yeah.

Chris King:

You know? But you're saying, okay, God you spent time with God. Right? Yeah. So it wasn't like, okay, I got I'm I'm about to bounce.

Chris King:

Because to fulfill my own, you know, to make myself comfortable. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right?

Chris King:

So how do you know when how did you know when it was time for you to make another another

Steve Johnson III:

So so sometimes God tells you to to move and do something because it's something that he wants to build inside of you and he wants you to grow in an area that you can't do in your current state.

Chris King:

Mhmm. Mhmm.

Steve Johnson III:

And God doesn't build your character, he doesn't build your strength in seasons of appeasement, in seasons of comfortability, He doesn't do that in seasons of calm, He does that in seasons of chaos, He does that in seasons of where a famine Mhmm. He doesn't do that in seasons of where there is ample resources. God wanted to do something different in me that he couldn't do while I was there and I was comfortable. Yeah. And he wanted me to grow in certain areas.

Steve Johnson III:

Didn't necessarily understand it, right? But I knew it was God. How did I know now, fifteen years ago, if God told me to do this, I probably wouldn't have heard him and been like, that ain't you, God. Yeah. So, here's the crazy part, the more you hear God and you're listening to him and you are doing what he's asking you to do, the more you do that, the more he can trust you with some of the things that he tells you to do.

Steve Johnson III:

Yeah. So I was at a point in my life, in my relationship with him, where he can tell me to do this and it doesn't totally freak me out. Yeah. Now I was scared and it hurt and I was dude, there were times where I would I'd be driving to work in the morning, listening to worship music, crying, having a whole worships worship session, right? But but and didn't understand that God was saying, I know it hurts right now, but I'm building something inside of you that you're going to need in this next season of your life, stay right here.

Steve Johnson III:

I I compare it to the story of David. When I was in this season, when I left Eagles Nest, and I was gone for about three years, a little bit more than three years, I was really reading the story of David, studying that thing, and I was as I was doing it, God was showing me how David was once very comfortable Mhmm. You know, in the king's court and comfortable with his life, and then God had to uproot him for him to be the man and to grow in certain areas that he had not grown in yet. So therefore, when it was time for him, he could come back

Chris King:

Yeah.

Steve Johnson III:

And be who God has called him to be. So I I I think that, you know, my story is still being written from that aspect, but I'm so glad that I'm in a place where I was obedient and I allowed God to to to do that work in me. Because if I would've told God no, I would have said, no, ain't leaving. This is this is everything I ever wanted. I don't think that I would have learned the lessons that I've learned today.

Steve Johnson III:

So what I hear is that you've always aspired for God's more.

Chris King:

Yeah. Right? Yeah. You sometimes we have a an idea of what we want more to look like For sure. But even though you had achieved certain things and attained certain things, it's like, okay, no, I want God's more, because then I'll be fulfilled.

Chris King:

And then even though you because being at a church

Steve Johnson III:

Can I and let and I know we we gotta wrap up, but that's so good what you say it and when you say that, you know, you want gods more? Mhmm. Man, so so often we're looking for our more.

Chris King:

Yeah.

Steve Johnson III:

Yeah. We want what we want. Mhmm. But what we want fails in comparison to what God really has for us. Yeah.

Steve Johnson III:

But because, and it's this whole thing all faith, right? Because we can't see it, we can't touch it, we can't hold it, we can't smell it, it's not right in front of our faces, then we're like, mm-mm. Nope. It's it's not there. We wanna we wanna be able the human nature of things is to be able to say, I see that thing right there, that's what I'm gonna go get and God is saying, you don't even see what I got for you over here and to want God's more is what is that really saying, right?

Steve Johnson III:

That's really saying, I'm going to practice in faith. Yeah. Yeah. Faith is gonna be the cornerstone Yeah. Of what I do.

Steve Johnson III:

Yeah. And when you get to that that place, that's when God is like, babe, I got you. I got you. So, yeah, hearing and seeing that, man, it just really inspires me because there were relationships you built. Right?

Steve Johnson III:

And you had to leave that.

Chris King:

For sure. Take your family Yeah. Because you knew that God was just calling you to Yeah. To more. So in all of these, man, you've given us nuggets on how to really lean on God, how to really how to really know that God is really calling you to move Yeah.

Chris King:

And to act, but to being able to trust him, but every step of the way it just built more trust saying, look God, you you helped me out here with Bobby. Yeah. Yeah. Right? You helped me out here with leaving corporate.

Steve Johnson III:

Uh-huh.

Chris King:

And now you're helping me out, building me up to being who you've called me to be. Mhmm. And so I'm gonna continue to lean on. And so, it just I I just have so many stories regarding that. And I know we don't have the time but Steve, man, this is have to get you back out here, man.

Steve Johnson III:

Sure. I love to come back, You

Chris King:

just chop it up. I don't know, you know, what's your what's your guilty pleasure, but we got water right here. I'll let you drink the water. I might have something else in my cup. But we

Steve Johnson III:

Like the the late night special.

Chris King:

The late night special, something brown. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, we just gotta get you back. Yeah, man. We love

Steve Johnson III:

to be here.

Chris King:

Appreciate the conversation so But before we go, let the people know how they can find you.

Steve Johnson III:

Yeah, man. Well, I'm on Instagram, steven ejohnson I I is is my handle there. You can find me on Facebook. I'm on LinkedIn, Steven Johnson, I I as well. So, yeah, please look me up, reach out to me.

Steve Johnson III:

You know, I do public speaking, you know, where I've done some really great things, and I'm also, you know, looking for other opportunities in the leadership, you know, kinda realm. So, you know, in the consulting space. So, yeah, just look me up. Love to talk

Chris King:

to you. Steve, you're a man You're a man after my own heart.

Steve Johnson III:

Man, thank you, brother.

Chris King:

With you all day, man. So I appreciate you. I can't wait till you join us again. And so for those out there watching, I want you to know, go follow us out on all the social handles on w h a w okay. I didn't mess that up.

Chris King:

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Chris King:

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Chris King:

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