The JoeIrish Podcast with Sherin Hughes

Welcome to Episode 11 of The Joe Irish Podcast with Sherin Hughes.
In this episode, Sherin chats with Kiera Dignam, the talented singer and daughter of the late Christy Dignam, frontman of Aslan.
Kiera opens up about her life growing up in Finglas, her journey as a musician, becoming a mother at 17, balancing family and career. She also speaks candidly about her father’s illness, his passing, and how she continues to honour his legacy through her own music.

This episode is full of laughter, emotion, and raw honesty - a heartfelt conversation about life, family, and finding your voice.

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Hands in the air!

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Unknown
did y'all wear this podcast with Sharon and yours? Episode 11. Thanks very much. And it was, I guess, Rim the absolute legend of a woman. Miscarriage. Big name, daughter of national treasure Chrissy Dignam.

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Unknown
Welcome. We're so happy to have you. Thanks for having me. Thank you. Thank you for coming. Yeah. And have y'all ever come down for babies straggler? Yeah. No. That's brilliant. I just learned about presets. Do you ever have a prenup? Like. Yeah. Of course. Yeah, because I've got a 17 year old as well. Oh, ten. So he has that.

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Unknown
Yeah. We're struggling together. It's I don't know. It's a minefield. Is that. Yeah. So because I know there's like I've been head and stuff and I just before we would delve into heaven, it's like they bought a dress for this amount. But then they want to sell it a major because they'll never be worn again. No. And that because like I was trying to I was on Facebook and because that's what all people do is go on Facebook, Instagram or TikTok.

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Unknown
That's for young people. Yeah. Like me when I went on like, I'm searching in the search bar, I already have to see what people do because I'm like, you want to send me to get all these backdrops a lot like a mini wedding? Yeah, but it's not enough that next year for the actual. That's right. So. So what's today?

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Unknown
So today is tonight's the Friday apps and then next year's The Dead set notes. So I was always having a little bit of knowledge about it but not that much. So you're on this run around and spending all this money. Not saying I thought it's over that beautiful lady, but she deserves every penny to be spent on. I'm free.

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Unknown
And she's she's very sensitive about 19 jobs. I'm not messing up. Yeah. Wow. She's almost. Oh, she's off camera because she's she's 17. She's 77 then off camera. But fair play. Well I don't know. Legally she's allowed on camera, but she doesn't want to be on camera. No, of course we would. Yeah, yeah. Seven is going to be I don't know, I swear in ten years time you're going to be like, I want to be on that camera.

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Unknown
I want to be on that camera. That's me. Should be ringing this next year. Yeah. Next year. Yeah. All right. She can. Is it just one last question about because I'm mind blown. Both. Not never I would love that one. And back when I was doing my dabs to actually rate accounts. No, no. You were like shocked. I have to be shot.

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Unknown
Oh that's a skimpy dabs. Yeah. Because they're real dabs is like, I don't made the sound but the real dabs, it's like it's they count. Yeah, yeah. But they want to go on low drops kind of. Oh that's Jesus. Oh you say Jesus doesn't know filled I'm sorry, but they can do what you do. Well, that's where I'm starting to drop on you want because you are not like oh, but I'm just saying it's another reason for them to go, well, guy with a teenager.

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Unknown
And the very little I know that the shotgun. Yeah. I should be like pulling that window. Push it now pull clothes on. Yeah, yeah. Out of the wind up in that one I'm like, oh my granddad we wrap up because I know although she's not to look like a guy next to one of the wanted to want to follow Jones.

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Unknown
Why is your window to him. So yeah. Anyway spray that spray. Enjoy I pray that and then one. Let's go. Yeah. So Kerry having you here today is amazing. Absolutely honored to be in your presence. And I know we know each other you know. So we've done a bit together as well with Sister Sheds. You've done a bit of work for the sister shared such a beautiful voice.

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Unknown
And so this actually is Sister Shed Show 2024 wasn't it. Yes. Yeah. So Joe, how did this year you want it? You were going to do dishes, but you had to when I the family wedding. Yeah. Yeah. So I was like a, I was a guest the I seen it. Yeah. So yeah. To fight against him. Yeah. But at the same time people say that and they're like, oh major, can't enjoy your day.

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Unknown
If I was sitting there and other people are saying and I'd be like, Yeah. I couldn't cope with that. Yeah. Because I mean, that's yeah, that's it thing like, isn't that so? Because I know I'm not just saying the outs. I'm assuming the most professions because I know this is not coming off at the scene. Like they're watching someone that's doing a gown, fortunately.

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Unknown
And so yeah. Oh Lord, you're up there because when you're on stage, when you're used to being on stage, you're one of the ones who said that to you on the on the, on the way. Yeah. And I was on the voice message or least you did a gig, got off the stage, the show was over and then I jumped back up on the stage was no music, and I played me found and then sang it for everyone.

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Unknown
And then I went and did a karaoke for I Know Exactly what it's like and what you put on was a chef. And then my sisters make the dinner. He's like, where are you? Right? Yeah. And where she'd see that I was like, you. That's what you did was a job. Yeah. Me what you want to be. And that's what people think.

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Unknown
The same with me. And that you're right. You're here as a guest. Yeah, yeah. Why would you? Are even a party or anything? It's kind of night. It's your night off. And I'm like, no, that's grand bull. Yeah. I want to say I'll do it. Is. Yeah. And it's not even the job I suppose I like singing is a great thing to be able to do.

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Unknown
Yes. So I know you mentioned earlier about going to college and stuff years ago for singing because I think maybe a lot people down to that now, maybe a lot of people now. What was that now? It's a did you get to college? No, I did, I got pregnant Joe. You got pregnant. I got pregnant. How did I, I don't make up.

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Unknown
No. So what happened was I low skill? I don't make you in a suit. And then the plan was I went in to him on. No, I went to see my dad when I was 11. I was like, I'm ready to leave school. I want to be when I say something else, sorry. 11. Sorry. Oh, Jesus. No, no.

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Unknown
When I was 11, I went into my mind and I was like, I'm ready to leave school. It's not for me. I want to be a singer. There's no point in me sitting through my glass. It's I knew extra. I knew that's all I wanted to do, and I was everything else and that's all I wanted to do.

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Unknown
So I was like. And I remember saying to me, dad, stomach. You don't understand what it's like. And he's like, well, like I just yeah. Because at the time, obviously, you know, when I disconnected from my parents, that's like, you haven't been clue. Yeah. But you know, everything. So they were like, no, you're going to stay in school because I just, I think I was like in this class or something.

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Unknown
They come on so passionate like it's illegal. Obviously you're living in school, look at arrested carry you down scale. Yeah. I'm still. So the plan was you can go to security. Your junior in junior infancy, a junior cert. You can say to you, you can do your junior. And then we can get because you could be at the time.

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Unknown
You could get into Ballyfermot School music at 16. Oh okay. So that was Grant. That was the plan list. Right. I'll say to me, I always all this time I'm think I got I got to be famous. By the time I thought I was ruining it. I'm like, I don't know, I'm I'm getting old. I'm nearly 12. Yeah.

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Unknown
I mean, so that was great on Satan's Guild on me junior set. And then I was like, yeah, I'm done. And they were like, are you sure? Would you not stay in school? That means like like you could be a doctor. God loves the poor woman. Clearly, clearly had dementia. Was starting to kick in already at that stage because I was never gonna be no doctor, but I was not.

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Unknown
I had no interest in art. Nails on. I think me, my dad was like, he nail buying these. Like she has a passion for this. Meemaw I think was kind of hoping I grow over by the time I got me doing a certain. And I'd say, you know, I'll actually stay for me leave. And I was like, no.

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Unknown
So that was ground and roll. You have to audition. So because obviously they can't let you in if you're complete. It was only just brutal. Anyone walking out. Yeah. Yeah. They are like, yeah, yeah. So do you have to kind of send your audition tape? And if it was a tape at times know like so I had a little record recorder like an actual tape like you'll probably have to for.

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Unknown
Oh, it's the whole record. And just sign on to the age of 40 allowed. Robbie Google what I. Yeah, yeah. Well yeah. So you send your cassette in and and obviously that caused me die because when he died he had gone off and on lectures and stuff in the college at the time. So he was able to just like touch on that stuff.

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Unknown
Yeah. Yeah. Like and do, like songwriter, workshops and things like that. So he was able to kinda get the envelope in. But if you're, if you're not, you're not going to get it. You're not. I mean, so anyway I got me place that was Grant was to start in the September sound. I was pregnant which would have been due in the October.

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Unknown
So it was like, yeah, that kind of put everything up in the air. And from that stage I got this gig in kind of from 12 to 14 on stages. I was the only underage gig for. So then I kind of then I was getting bigger gigs, like old gigs where you kind of I'd be allowed do the gig, but I wouldn't be allowed near the bar or anything, obviously.

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Unknown
I, as that solo was around, I was the only one own. And then, like I was Dylan, I was doing support gigs and things like anything like any other. Say say if. Yeah, if you're like, if you want to bring me into the toilet and let me sing and I'm gonna sing, it's just every you have to take every opportunity, every chance to sing.

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Unknown
And that's what I did. But when I found out I was pregnant, I was like, right, that's it. Now down to me like, that's then it was. That was when I first realized, okay, singing is not going to be a job for me. It's a dream, a far fetched dream, right? So I was like, that's I don't have to be a mommy now.

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Unknown
And I did. I pulled back on everything and I was at the time I was walking to be salon washing hairs, just making coffee because, you know, obviously I wasn't making money singing at the time. So I was Darren me now husband where to get our since we were like born. So he's like LA does a year between us.

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Unknown
So it's nice that we still have that because it was that was another thing. It was like oh yeah, teenage pregnancy obviously isn't going to stay together. That never works out. We were well, I was like, I don't know about him, but I was lucky enough that that worked out for Roxy. Yeah. And then I had come I came in October and I kind of was just right.

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Unknown
I need to learn how to be a mummy, because, like, I'm an only child. I had, like, one younger cousin, but like, any time we babysit me might do well, I of just Wheeler up and down. So I didn't know when they handed me a baby. Like I was like. And I'm always my kid. I was I found out I was pregnant four days before me 17th birthday.

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Unknown
Right? So I was 17 home. I genuinely like, you know, the way some little guy is like they allowed cause not allowed to say so. So you kind of just get all the kids on your hip. I was never that because I was obviously youngest cousin and then my auntie, who I'm very close to, had me, my younger cousin.

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Unknown
But as I said, like me, mom would do all they kind of if she was leave my mind. And I mean, I do all the kind of looking after. I had no clue what a baby was like. I literally had no clue. So I think there was panic stations when I found out I was pregnant to mean I was like, oh, I don't have to live walk, I'm gonna have to wear this child.

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Unknown
Like, she assumed that this was going to be her baby kind of thing. But there was so made me that I was like, no one's ready. And my child, I'm to be the man I am. This is my child, my responsibility. Although I have no clue what I'm doing, I'll have to make it work. And I did like, he's I mean, he's 22.

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Unknown
He's still alive. If. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't die in the process. Yeah. It's just it's one of them things. And it just like it's not, it's like a flight. And so. Yeah. Yeah. As an as like that, it's just like as you were saying, they don't, you know I have an abortion. Sisters allows the family. Yeah. So some people, some kids are well used to being kids are literally read by the village.

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Unknown
Yeah. My sister was like my sister and she was like, well, she loves having kids, you know what I mean? She's one of them. My sister in law is like that. Like I was lucky enough to see all the survive. So although I came from nobody's ancestors, I kind of got his brothers and sisters as brothers and sisters.

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Unknown
And like his two sisters, will be like that. Be always. I'll take the kids. I'll do this. So they've always been a great help for me, but they will be that kind of overwhelming. Jesus Christ, I've taken other people's kids with them. I just it's just in the kids just following around like, yeah, like me I'd want is that I would have ran away from a child at 17.

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Unknown
I wouldn't know what to do even now. Just travels. Yeah. Me, I was like, we were babies up until we were in his 40s. Like my math suggests, a percentage, you know, and then talk to you, be like, oh, hello, Shireen. It's Christmas after I was in jail last night. My ten more minutes. Yeah. And she be like, no.

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Unknown
And I smell the apple pie. I got the poisoned and the an hour. But yeah, she was baby just so much that even at 41 when I had my first child, I didn't. I honestly didn't know what to do. I actually got a fright of my life, and I was so used to traveling and stuff that was actually a massive responsibility.

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Unknown
Like I said, you know what to do here, kind of tweak. I actually try to give my to me my. But she wanted him to be because you look how if I was a friend that didn't have a kids in the 40s and then I'm looking at like 17. Amazing. Yeah. Like, but I say I'm, I'm belting out the raves on that.

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Unknown
I'm like, is that right? Yeah, yeah. You got to say I'm like, my youngest is 11 now, you know what I mean? So so 710. Yeah. So it's even less my friends. I would but not waste. Whereas if our, our friends. Well why not 20s. Yeah. All of you. Yeah. And we were like a home. Yeah. Yeah. It's you know what I mean.

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Unknown
Yeah. And then I was like I now where we're like, we're just like just like teenagers with money. Yeah. That's it. We're just. I mean, I know I was when I was in age that, you know, much more money. I don't know, man of money. And I was like, no kids. Me when I'm like, you know, this is great.

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Unknown
Me and Keira just saying that, that go with me, that it's now for you, that you're trying to travel and do better. But there's still a restriction on it. It's still only for five days. Yeah, because I'm still I need to go back to just, you know what I mean? Because although she's 11 and the other two are great, I came to 22 over 17.

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Unknown
They're a great help. And then we have obviously family and stuff, but you still feel like I can completely neglect them. Like you have to still be, you know, you can't take too long away. Or like last year I was off during the summer. I was gig in a lot in England. So you kind of be walking, I say.

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Unknown
I do a festival on the Saturday, right? And they say, well, we fly in on tours that you can set a plane and then leave the Sunday and I'm like, I'll see you on Saturday morning. Do I? I'm like, yeah. Whereas before I'm like, no, a stay around. No I don't I'm not a big drinker anyway. So I would always I'd sit around if everybody's having a drink and it's not even a thing where like just this big traumatic thing and I don't drink, I'm not, it's not like that.

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Unknown
I just I'm just not it. I think the only way I can, I can when I think about it, I think because I had cancer and then after I had about, I went back gig and kind of full on, it just wasn't worth it. It wasn't worth the hangover. I cannot I can't drink when I'm on stage because like two drink cause I don't drink when I do drink two drinks.

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Unknown
And that it's just like, I don't want to I don't want to make a mistake on stage, like, oh my God, I'm a pussycat off. Yeah, you know what I mean? Yeah, she's very, very careful. So it's like it's just not water. Yeah, yeah, I think I do. You know, in this day, I don't know if it's the era that we're in now.

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Unknown
So yeah, that's what's called. Yeah. Yeah probably I'm, I mean this area now I think lots of us are just say, well, you're not what we it's a oh no, don't put me in this plane category. Then when you're actually saying you're a recession man. Yeah, exactly. You know, open to a couple of months ago, like I did, enjoying a drink, you know, like.

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Unknown
And I don't know if it's because you're in a stage of life where I just say where I just have a drink. But then when you start doing stuff like adventures and just doing loads of stuff modern, you got more to do. I can't actually have a hangover and last weekend at that, when I was down, when I gigged in Cork and then I was in Tipperary conference at the Tipperary then and then straight home, and then I was up the next morning going out at the lawyers of over on the beach at 7:00 and then getting up in the morning to call my darling.

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Unknown
I was like, look at this on the Sunday bounce out. Yeah, it feels good. It feels good. Yeah. Just living in. And what did you do Sunday night? Oh, we went straight to the Jelly's down to the studio. She's got to get a break. For it did me walk. And I did me a year. When I was in jail for taking part.

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Unknown
Yeah, it was part of society. Twice a week. Yeah, yeah, twice. Yeah. Oh, yeah. But money all round the. I'm only one grand grandad. We can all be grandparents. You know, I'm just saying. No, no, don't worry, I'm not. You know, I'm not man's name. What's his name? What is this? I'm not saying this. I see where you're going.

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Unknown
No. For all you know. And then you haven't had any walk out. Then you be talking about going up, looking at all alone. London. So no, I just she got you looking at the door that I'm pointing out because saying Ava good morning. The Transworld. All right. I have had no no bookings. I want you to just she just want to be a nanny.

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Unknown
As can I, as can a girlfriend. No, he's not now, okay. He's had no need to come here. At least he had a boyfriend. I wouldn't be stressed tonight. Yeah. No, he's need are he's put away. I just think that's fair enough. I was I would like to find that out when I'm 64. No. He says she actually wants to and I can.

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Unknown
She wants to actually live is 106, so I mean, that needs it. Yeah. So I can prolong that. Yeah. Yeah. Now Kane is, he's 22 yesterday. He's. Am I ready? Can I take in. He's, he's in college and he's walking for. Well, so he's English and history teacher. Lovely. Oh yeah. And that because he was always saying he wanted to do that and he kept talking himself out of it.

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Unknown
So we went in on biomedicine, qualified in that we kind of be like a lab technician. Well hated it okay. So went back and eventually lost his fingers. Yeah, yeah. The posh parrot okay. Yeah. Does not posh I guess last week was like a lab technician wasn't he was saying, yeah, that's a it was a different Sorry.

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Unknown
I go back to. Yeah. So and a cancer or and here's one then you want to start as well because I won't want to get into that. Then what was it like grown up in Finglas which I fired up in such a in the law, you know what I mean? And such a powerful national treasure, right? I never really people and they used to ask me like in secondary schools in primary school, I don't think anybody really realized.

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Unknown
Yeah. Who because they weren't old enough trying to understand who he was and it needed a lie. So it was kind of like secondary school. It was like like watch your dad. Like being preceded, but like having a darker signal. And. Like what? Like your dad been a plumber? I don't know, like it was. Never didn't know any difference.

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Unknown
It was never team. It was. I assumed everyone still went at 9:00 on the Saturday night. Keegan and came back and then slept through the day because he's after band gig and last night and then. And I assume that when you're walking down the road, everybody still gets pulled in, like, hey, can I get a picture? That's. Yeah.

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Unknown
Like I genuinely it was only when I became a little bit older, I realized, oh, that's not really that's not what happens. Everyone does not not normally. Yeah. But everyone. Yeah. Like it really didn't occur to me. I just that was just my like as a child just speaking this just not even something I thought of. I'm just thinking now as we're talking, do you ever remember any big like, I remember seeing, you know, a crazy world or the in America or something, or am I doing that wrong?

00:18:05:21 - 00:18:27:21
Unknown
This is the first album they were in America. Yeah, yeah. Was there any other any moments where I documents on your minds? I can't believe this. Like, can you remember anything with Hanks show? Yeah. Like, there was always kind of some big achievement. Like. Christy, I can't be in the Hall of Fame now. Yeah. It was, you know, there's always next level.

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Unknown
Yeah. Like that. You. You're getting something in the goal. You feel like you're sharing that with Darren. Yeah as well. So your dad had been there all night. What. He let me man. That's the thing. Like they were together since they were like 14. Yeah. So she was their true everything, you know what I mean. Like she walked so that he didn't have to she, he left his full time job like pensionable job because she was like if you want to make it work.

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Unknown
He walked. He had to like the he had those 15 jobs where his love, the job that you had that you end to leave news with Telecom air. And then he was the on windows but he had pensions in these jobs. So telecom here was like yeah actually we must look into that because he should be out. He should have that pension catching a secret somewhere for him.

00:19:06:17 - 00:19:21:18
Unknown
My inheritance. Yeah. Yeah. Let's look into that. When I watch back on this I'll remember to follow up on that. But yeah, he walked for a day and eventually again it became a thing where he was like, like, I want to really make this work. So we left. I mean, I kind of held what she was after opening a salon, hairdressers.

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Unknown
And she's like, well, Will. He said, I'll give it a year because they had gone to Australia before I was born. Yeah. Mom and dad. Yeah, because my aunties lives over there. So we went over to visit them and they loved it and they want that was it. They were going to live there, came home, they went for a month and they sent me to ask, look, give it a year.

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Unknown
If Aslan doesn't work out. Welcome to Australia. Dejected. Like what the Jordan set up? I was a band set up to, obviously. Fantastic. Yeah, I'm a song songwriter. Yeah. So he had a couple. He had a letter on On Me and four. So he basically went to Jojo. L was it was kind of as plain as well. And he was in school and money kind of went to him.

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Unknown
Was like, you want to be in a band? And then they kind of went and picked you members. And then there was some members of Oriental members left, and then eventually it became lost. And so that's going to he said, give it a year. We'll try and make that walk. And then if it doesn't work out to Australia, and they brought a selection, which I was, I was a little boy on the cover.

00:20:14:02 - 00:20:33:06
Unknown
Oh really? Yeah. Not a day to hear I was I didn't so I just say like was there any ever any kind of big thing like that happened before? I was able to acknowledge success. So I was kind of a toddler at that stage. So I'd always known him to be in a successful band. I never really knew anything different, you know?

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Unknown
Man. So I never got to Australia. I could have had a koala bear. Okay? I never had any doubt right now you wouldn't be here. I am Sloman and Dobler. Yeah, but yeah, assuming that's okay. How is things in your career? In your music career? Where's that count? It hurt any musician. Well, tiny, I see what it's like.

00:20:52:02 - 00:21:21:15
Unknown
There is. It's saying like I'm a struggling musician and it's. It's true. I might not say fuck. Yeah. All right. It's fucking true. Yeah, it's fucking true. No, it is hard for them folks. You. Yeah. So basically, when I eventually went back again, I'm going somewhere with this. I'm not going. Yeah, right. Well, when I went back again and after I had, I've, I kind of we went into like, I mean like really like places that you'd be kind of walking on, on.

00:21:21:15 - 00:21:36:19
Unknown
Yeah. Jesus Christ. But it was trying kind of it was an apprenticeship essentially. You know what I mean? Trying to learn my craft, trying to learn what songs do I like seeing, what songs are my good at singing and and eventually build an up to kind of bigger places. Then we put a band around us. So Darren's in the band with me.

00:21:36:19 - 00:21:51:14
Unknown
He plays guitar, so it's always been the two of us. Yeah. So every band I've been in, he's kind of always been here. So, we did really well and I was kind of like, I want to be able to bring out my own stuff because you're kind of, you're kind of credible when you have your own music and that cosmic.

00:21:51:16 - 00:22:08:11
Unknown
I always had his own music. I was like, I don't want to be your own singer for the rest of me. Like, yeah, this is yeah, I just think, which is still no good. Good. And there's a lot of like, someone I'm kind of like where you go, that is someone that you can't even get tickets to the Built at Beatles.

00:22:08:16 - 00:22:26:19
Unknown
That's it. Yeah, I read it. I mean, what are they trying to trim it? So. So that's that's the problem because that's what I fell into. I wanted to be pursue me all music. I wanted that credibility. Yeah. I wanted to be kind of out there in my own voice. Yeah, but I couldn't really. I wasn't really proven myself because I'm singing Whitney Houston songs and grind.

00:22:26:19 - 00:22:35:15
Unknown
If you can do that, it can sound good on people. Like, of whatever I was, I was that was on my songs. I used to say it used to be on, say, kind of Big Ballad Day, the songs I love to sing,

00:22:35:15 - 00:22:40:21
Unknown
but that's grand. But then I was getting kind of getting gigs in ports and then I do

00:22:40:21 - 00:22:43:15
Unknown
weddings, I do ceremonies and funerals and churches.

00:22:43:20 - 00:22:54:14
Unknown
So you'd get like, I was really doing, doing really well. I was able kind of 4 or 5 nights a week, 2 or 3 days a week with the funerals and weddings, churches and things like that and Covid.

00:22:54:14 - 00:23:05:07
Unknown
and things had been going really, really well. I had 285 weddings canceled. Jesus. Yeah. So it was, I remember I look up until then, I never struggled with his mental health.

00:23:05:12 - 00:23:25:02
Unknown
I never had issues with that. And I'm looking at my diary and cancel, cancel, cancel, cancel, reschedule with cancel cancel. And it was like, oh, Jesus Christ. And I'm starting to walk out all the money that I'm losing because that's my only job. This is how I'm literally feed my kids. It was terrifying. But, I mean, there was people dying, like, do you know what I mean?

00:23:25:02 - 00:23:40:14
Unknown
Like, and I'll, I'll quit for smaller problems. Who am I to moan about losing a few quid? Everybody was losing money, do you know what I mean? But that's when I realized I was like, shit, like, this is, this is heavy. And then it was kind of. We went to lockdown for two weeks. Yeah. And then it turned out to be like nine years or something crazy.

00:23:40:19 - 00:23:55:23
Unknown
Do you know what I mean? So eventually, anyway, I was like, you know, I'm not going back into I'm not going back into this is an opportunity to get this is to give me the time to get me out and recorded because I never had the time before because I was so busy, which was brilliant. Yeah. But it was essentially not what I wanted to be doing.

00:23:55:23 - 00:24:14:02
Unknown
Yeah. So I eventually got my album recorded, but because of restrictions on travel and everything else, most of it was doing kind of face time with the producer. And then I when I was allowed out on me kind of five k, I go to the studio, record, wash my hands and go home kind of thing. So anyway, got the album done.

00:24:14:02 - 00:24:32:00
Unknown
I was like, right, I'll get that ready for release. And then agents start getting back on when things are opening up again, like, is there any chance like, would you do this gig? And I was like, you know, maybe if I go in and do these pop gigs just to kind of get the money back up and then I'll kind of get the album done in a month and everything kept getting pushed out because we got as busy again.

00:24:32:06 - 00:24:51:14
Unknown
All the weddings that were canceled were starting to reschedule. There's a catch 22. Exactly. Yeah. Because again, I was like, I'm so grateful for all the Balkans I ever got because that's what kept my mind. It kept the wheels in motion, like that was my money, that was my income. But at the same time, it meant that I wasn't doing essentially what I wanted to be doing was getting me all music out there.

00:24:51:14 - 00:25:03:23
Unknown
So it was hard. It was quite as you say. It was exactly. That was it was a catch 20 deal. But I got really busy again. And then I kind of got stuck in a rut where I was like, I can't, how am I gonna, how am I gonna do this? Because you have to like one thing. You don't, you don't.

00:25:03:23 - 00:25:20:15
Unknown
If unless you're in it, you don't consider if someone's coming to see me and are local on a Saturday night, why the fuck are you going to pay to buy a ticket to see me? Do me all music on a Sunday? That's. Yeah. So, yeah, it's a hard one. Like. Yeah. And held away, torn down all these agents and these weddings went on like that money.

00:25:20:19 - 00:25:35:11
Unknown
Yeah. Because when you start to general music generally you're not getting me. You're not, you're not getting paid. You're not getting paid well because you're doing support, like with comedy, you're going in with like when you're starting off, you get somebody with a big name and you say, can I do what can I do for you? It supports same music.

00:25:35:11 - 00:25:59:04
Unknown
It's the same, same concept. So it was kind of, oh, what do I do? And it was Darren was kind of the same way. Although he was in the band, he also always had a real job. So he kind of keep that he could kind of keep was going to allow for meetings to, to do me record and, and gallery because I have to remember these days, like I'm paying for all of this, so let somebody swoops in to pay you and says, I'm going to give you a record deal.

00:25:59:04 - 00:26:15:06
Unknown
The record company will come in on pay for your album to be recorded. Yeah, yeah, we pay it ourselves. Like, that was a lifesaver. Big money is a big. It's stupid. Yeah, that's what I was thinking about. It, stand up comedy. And I just think of you. I don't know, obviously, there's. There's a group in the garage, a little network of support.

00:26:15:08 - 00:26:38:07
Unknown
You just have to pay for the instruments and still be able to go just rocket and star and get free drink. Yeah, but that's the thing. You don't get paid when people say, I feel if I'm musicians because I know what's this that we're on in the entertainment business end of it. It's it's a long, long. I was in the musicians like, sometimes people say to me, slag me off, I want to stay in this position still.

00:26:38:13 - 00:26:53:24
Unknown
Yeah, yeah. No, I've had people come to me and say like, is there any chance you can hold me? Like, I just wanted to sing for an hour. Yeah. And I'm like, that's fine. But that hour means that I have to bring over six piece band or to bring 5 or 2 members, all their instruments to pay. Yeah, it's not just an hour of my life.

00:26:53:24 - 00:27:10:14
Unknown
It's four hours of my life because I have to get there, set off due to gig, take stripped down and get home like it's so it. There is a lot more to people than you realize. Like I don't just appear and then suddenly everything goes like a hologram. Everything falls into place. Yeah. So and this and like, this is my job, you know.

00:27:10:14 - 00:27:30:11
Unknown
But it is pro Jenner professional about it. Absolutely. Yeah. It's not going I will just do. Yeah I'm just let's throw something together. Yeah I'm Darren is in Liverpool sound. So we always had to have the best of the best has to have the best of the best sound which is brilliant. Yeah. It did stand to us because we were so busy and I think that was part of the reason we were so busy.

00:27:30:13 - 00:27:49:10
Unknown
But you do need to have like it's attention to detail makes such a difference. With me, I'm just like, I'll just go on and saying, I don't. I'm kind of all of that taking care of the wrong job. Exactly. Did your dad set like that, Kerry? Did. You would have ever said, I done the gigs first, and then it became the career he now he never done cocaine.

00:27:49:10 - 00:28:03:00
Unknown
Never don't conversation sometimes because he loves Bowie and things like that. So we didn't cooperate of them into gigs sometimes. But he was always an original. It's just said he always had it was always original music. So that was the thing that I was like, every time I would walk a gig or I'm doing okay, I'm like that getting forward.

00:28:03:00 - 00:28:32:01
Unknown
And for me, I was panicking. So eventually my dad was sick after Covid, I just had I got stuck get and I told myself sitting in the inbox type of thing, so we, we went and my dad was in hospital and he just kind of started to get worse health wise for him. And they called us into the hospital and basically said, listen, in the October of 2022, there were like, well, I had to send them home in palliative care, right?

00:28:32:02 - 00:28:45:06
Unknown
So you're like, shit. Because obviously that's not a good thing. So I went into him because he was he didn't want anything. Diagnosis time. And I knew that he's I got I want to know. Yeah. Don't tell me he literally be like an insider. He didn't want to he didn't want to know I need to, which is fine.

00:28:45:06 - 00:29:03:14
Unknown
Yeah. I suppose unless you're in that situation, you don't know how you might feel or how you might want to deal. But his deal was ignorance is bliss. Absolutely. So we had to obviously comment on palliative care because otherwise if we say no and and then a part of Kainos comes in. Yeah. So yeah. So why is that you.

00:29:03:14 - 00:29:16:02
Unknown
I'm like, how do I care? I was like, listen, palliative care is not which it's not, it's not end of life. Like it doesn't mean you're going to be dead in a week. It could be it can be two years now with the doctor. It wasn't going to be two years. And we knew it wasn't to be two years.

00:29:16:08 - 00:29:19:02
Unknown
But he had been so sick for so long

00:29:19:02 - 00:29:27:17
Unknown
when ehm. Anyway, when he came home in palliative care, I was saying to him, it's not, you know, we don't know how long this might be and you have to try and be positive even when you're not.

00:29:27:19 - 00:29:47:07
Unknown
Even then I was bullshit, like, so we brought him home and every time before this, like we were given, he was given two days to live and he lasted ten years. Do you know what I mean? So he was given two days to live in 20. In 2014. That's when he was diagnosed. So why was getting married?

00:29:47:07 - 00:30:07:23
Unknown
What was the diagnosis? So he had multiple myeloma, which is a blood cancer. Wow. And then then they brought me in. He had it. He took a tour and I ended up in hospital again. And they discovered that he had secondary cancer, which was amyloidosis. That was did that cause you can live with multiple myeloma. You can never bolt.

00:30:07:23 - 00:30:28:00
Unknown
But amyloidosis. Very little known about him. And it's it's extremely rare but about blood cancers and those kind of things like causes. It's all over then it's. Yeah, basically if you have a brain tumor, say, obviously that's not a good thing, but they can go in and they can either remove my blood, they are say, do what it lays or things like that.

00:30:28:04 - 00:30:30:18
Unknown
We upload content. Yeah. It.

00:30:30:18 - 00:30:51:18
Unknown
It was in his bone marrow and his blood. Terrific. And so what kind of man? Like he was fighting two cancers. The amyloidosis was essentially the one that caused the most problems for him. Because amyloidosis is a protein. So the only way in layman's terms, I can understand it, or I can explain it is it's like a polyfill.

00:30:51:20 - 00:31:11:12
Unknown
So it kind of shoots this protein is like a polyfill. So it'll shoot this protein around our body certain organs. So for him it started off with his heart. So this powerlifter builds around his heart and then hardens. So his heart can't be whole to at full capacity. Because this wall of polyethylene was, I don't know, anything like that, you know.

00:31:11:12 - 00:31:31:23
Unknown
And that's I think sometimes it is it's important to speak about that sometimes, because when it comes, it has very little known about. It's important because sometimes people might have the same symptoms and think of salt melts because it took a while. The only reason they found out with me, dad was he was in the hospital. He had taken a torn, he had a bit of a seizure, and ended up in Blanchardstown Hospital.

00:31:31:23 - 00:31:48:03
Unknown
And it just so happened, the consultant came in and said, I have, residents on students on rounds. Is there any chance they can come in and we can talk? And he's like, yeah, no problem. One of the students said there's a few things with this, with his sickness that have he's looked at amyloidosis and was like, what is that?

00:31:48:03 - 00:32:03:23
Unknown
Didn't know what to build it. It was just like a student happened to be happened to be looking at it obviously in the study and studying it and in college. And it turned out that's what it was. So they test them for and that's what it was. So essentially that's what saved his life or prolonged his life. Sustained.

00:32:03:23 - 00:32:24:02
Unknown
They were able to say, right, this is the treatment we can give. Yeah. So fast forward ten years and we brought it home into palliative care. I was gigging, I had a gig in the February to support gig. And in the January we came, we went there for like, and said, we're going to have to tell people because.

00:32:24:04 - 00:32:46:06
Unknown
How did that feel? What was that like? One for the family. One for you is just because I know Leo's my what it's like. But it was quick. I didn't know she was gone. Christie being a national treasure to the country, adored him. We still do. We love him. Yeah. And then as his daughter and wife, having to come out and say, this is it, it's she.

00:32:46:08 - 00:33:05:10
Unknown
It's because although my dad's always, as I said, my whole life, he's been the public eye and then me, I've been in the public eye because of him and then because of the the career I've chosen. You kind of can't. Yeah, yeah. You can't complain about being in the public eye because at the same time, these are the people I'm saying to me, don't you know?

00:33:05:10 - 00:33:31:00
Unknown
So yeah, you have to be grateful for that. But when it comes to situations like that, it's rough because you can't have privacy. And the reason we decided to not, you know, we decided the read that the decision had to be made. What are we wanted are not because there was a 40th anniversary kind of the band anniversary, were doing the big gig and that had to be canceled because he was in hospital.

00:33:31:02 - 00:33:47:08
Unknown
And then it was rescheduled for the following March. So they reschedule it. So was he was it known that he was going to maybe be okay then? It was assumed he might be okay because he always was. Yeah. Do you know when you're told it was always yeah, yeah. And you know, at the time he must be okay.

00:33:47:10 - 00:34:06:07
Unknown
When it was rescheduled, we didn't. You did because you were still in hospital. Yeah. So say that was rescheduled in the September 2nd to March. And then we were told he was going to be in palliative care, so we were like, yeah. So we let the other members know that this was the case. And the gig was still kind of stuff was still happening, essentially.

00:34:06:09 - 00:34:21:12
Unknown
And then we were like, we realized because we were in this bubble of like, what the fuck is going on and trying to deal with, yeah, more important things. And then we realized the gig was still I actually got a message Christmas Mark, Christmas Day. I make it in our emails as Christmas Day and somebody sent me a message.

00:34:21:12 - 00:34:42:12
Unknown
I don't even know who it was. It was just somebody on Facebook account. Oh my God, I'm so excited. Just got these two tickets to see I die in March as a present. And I was like, oh, you didn't know that then? No. Going ahead. It's not even like, I don't want to sound. I don't want to come across like, I'm totally not you know, just like, oh, yeah, obviously I knew the gig was happening, but it didn't even dawn on me.

00:34:42:18 - 00:34:58:11
Unknown
Yeah, that the gig needs to be canceled. Yeah. And then, like, people buying tickets and then people are like, people are flying from England. I'm paying for flight. And I was like, shit. And then you're being told, can't wait to see your die. Yeah. So it is like we're gonna see Christie. I know it's at Lambeau. Well, the gig.

00:34:58:11 - 00:35:20:08
Unknown
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then I was like, ballocks, I get this gig. Don't have to be canceled. So it we we went and we were I won't get into the logistics, but basically we were like, this gig needs to be canceled. I was like, I'll wait and see. And we were like, this is not gonna get. So we're being practical and realistic, and I don't know whether people thought we were being dramatic, but we were like, these are not, you know, things are not good.

00:35:20:13 - 00:35:38:20
Unknown
And we were the only ones in the house like people weren't coming visit them. People didn't see them. So we're like, trust me on this. Yeah. He's not, he's not, he's not great. And he wasn't getting better. So, eventually we talked me down. I was like, I want I said to him that was like, oh, fucking hell.

00:35:38:20 - 00:35:58:01
Unknown
Like, he felt bad thinking Joe's people like, on a lot of people. Who was Marina? We take him out, so you get your money back and all that. But those people don't pay for flights to come to Dublin, things like that, whatever. So, eventually, anyway, we were like, we're gonna have to call in, let people know. And because then people were like, geez, Christie was in hospital last year.

00:35:58:01 - 00:36:18:21
Unknown
Like, what's the story? I actually remember getting a message. I swear to God, it was probably the first, the for steel and similar to when he died. You know, when you get a punch in the mouth and then you get a punch in the stomach at the same time, somebody sent me a message because we were so quiet, because we were just dealing with this at home privately.

00:36:18:23 - 00:36:37:09
Unknown
So, no, I mean random, I don't quite know. You know, this is the moment this person followed me on my the music page, you know, from a business kind of thing. And somebody sent me a message saying, hey, Kerry, I just want to know, did your dad pass away? Because everything's being very quiet. I understand if he did.

00:36:37:09 - 00:36:53:22
Unknown
Well, I think you should let people know, because we all love him, and we've a writer. Now, that's where chat with isn't that they'd rather pass away. Oh my God, yeah, we've a writer now. Is your priority right now. Yeah. Me dead now what? He said she wasn't. And we hadn't said he was in palliative care at this stage.

00:36:54:00 - 00:37:27:06
Unknown
But because we'd been so quiet and people knew he was in hospital and the gig it being canceled and everything. So I'm like, I wasn't aware Texas, cos that's where God, you know, how was everything? Yeah, yeah. No, not many, not many people away. I just found a very I, I tried to look at it in a way of this person is concerned and is probably a fan of it's obviously a fan, which is a major sense of entitlement, you know, and I think coming from a daughter, your last, even though it is a priority to at some stage say, listen, this is where we're at because he is such a national, of course, you

00:37:27:06 - 00:37:43:08
Unknown
have to look here. And I was cut off. But your main focus is your mother when you are your dad. Yeah. At that point you're just focusing. And I think every minute of the day is just consumed with that love and just wanting to be there in the moment. And I think sometimes when you say it's more rare, is that a bit difficult?

00:37:43:08 - 00:38:02:18
Unknown
Yes. Yeah, absolutely. So I get this message and I was like, I'm Sunflower. Like I really was. So it was little things like this happening. A few things like that kind of happened. Not as that, not as kind of blatant attacking, but I was like, well, I don't have to let people know what's going on. So we spoke with, somebody who deals with public speaking and, and we were like, we need advice on this.

00:38:02:18 - 00:38:18:16
Unknown
Like this. Not for myself. Yeah. Essentially. Yeah. Because I wanted to do what we want to do on the right way, you know, in a respectful way, let people know, and then just kind of be like, please give us privacy time to get I know you, I don't care. Yeah. I will, I won't go and do whatever you like.

00:38:18:18 - 00:38:33:12
Unknown
So I had to sit down and say to Jesus, yeah, which was hard because at the end of the day, it's very easy to look at it as a, as a business thing. Right? But what people don't realize are what you might not see is I had to sit down. I, as a door, had to sit down with my dad.

00:38:33:15 - 00:38:50:04
Unknown
It's irrelevant who he is and what he does for a living or to sit down and go, listen, I need to let people know that you're going to die. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? It's big. It's weird if you like. Yeah, well, I had to do that, so I did, And we got the ward and Dawn and everything else.

00:38:50:04 - 00:39:08:09
Unknown
I mean, we we put it, we had to put out press and let people know. So then it was like when, like we said, that can we please have privacy? And when you asked for privacy, the very, very last thing in the world, you get surprises. Yeah. Yeah. Which again, I understand because at the same time, the reason he was who he was was because these people have support.

00:39:08:09 - 00:39:27:06
Unknown
And Trudy more and I say more and I'm with you. And obviously that's helpful. There still is the whole country was sad, you know, and I told everyone, I told you we got to like. And yes, I did my job. I guess I was lying down. All right. Well, everyone has memories of. Yeah. The songs and we had Williams join them.

00:39:27:07 - 00:39:47:04
Unknown
Absolutely. So we had to. I was trying to keep we were trying to. The public and yourself. Yeah. Protected joints let everyone in while inside the hat is in. Fucking terrified because I had no idea that we didn't know what we were dealing with. We didn't know what we were facing. So that was the January, Join me.

00:39:47:06 - 00:40:07:19
Unknown
What age was that? He was he he was 62. Was it? That's you're saying about my dad was horrible. Yeah. That's horrible. And then it's too young for me. Might be less than a year, you know, I mean, but that was the January. And then my little cousin died very suddenly. He was 27, in February. So I happened to have a gig the night of his funeral.

00:40:07:19 - 00:40:21:19
Unknown
But I was singing at his funeral, so I. It's that I was going to obviously cancel it on me. And he's like, now keep the gig, do the gig, you know, whatever. So I was like, right, okay, so I sang at a funeral and then I was saying, look, if he's all want to come to the gig and at least we can all be together now, it turns out they were all in based on didn't.

00:40:21:21 - 00:40:35:23
Unknown
But I'm on the stage. So three weeks previous to this, we had made this announcement. My dad was too sick to even compare the gig. We had to leave him with a I'm in the house. It was horrible because he was very, very close to his cousin and he was named Chris Harris, Christopher Dignam as well, you know.

00:40:36:00 - 00:40:51:00
Unknown
But then I'm doing the gig anyway. That's Grant, and you always get someone with this crazy world. And for years I wouldn't do it. And then I was like, you know what? Wait for me, I don't know, family and everybody in the place that chant and Christie over and over and over again, and it was it was total.

00:40:51:03 - 00:41:05:16
Unknown
I don't want to make it out like I may. I took it the wrong way. It was meant in a totally well he does a to where he just outright die. Yeah, yeah. They knew what we had been going through and they meant it in a lovely way, but I felt it. Shit. I'll just say it. Yeah. I'm trying to be professional.

00:41:05:16 - 00:41:21:17
Unknown
Be professional. Not like Darren. And he's like, I can do it. Yeah. Don't. And I couldn't, I physically couldn't I'm not a crier. Yeah, but I couldn't I just couldn't hold my shit together. I turn around and I'm looking at me drummer and I'm trying to hold my shit together. My bass player sobbing, me drummers looking. I couldn't even look at me because he was getting upset.

00:41:21:17 - 00:41:36:16
Unknown
Because they're feeling feeling it for me. Like going on. And I'm looking at Darren and Darren's like he's like, we're going to pull the gig. And I was like, no, now let me compose myself. I'll be okay. So I turns back around and I was like, thank you all so much. I just need a minute. So I took a little break, went back to the gig house.

00:41:36:22 - 00:41:57:24
Unknown
I don't know how I did, so that was grand. So when we're done, there's like a queue of people kind of, you know, typical past photographs. I want to talk. I'm because of everything they wanted to, obviously. Yeah. So I spoke to 1 or 2 people and there's a girl that came in neatest at home. She was from Finglas and she just came up and they hugged me and because she knew I could and again, I'm not hawker reader, but she knew of it.

00:41:57:24 - 00:42:11:09
Unknown
She knew I needed it. It was a real meeting, you know what I mean? So Darren's like, you go to the van, the mandola to get all the equipment out. So as I ground. So I'm sitting in the van like, oh, traumatized. And and Darren got sat in the van. He's like, I don't know what you mean, Martin.

00:42:11:09 - 00:42:28:24
Unknown
He's like, that is a one day gigs. He says, we need to go. We look outside, we'll reassess this work. And I know we had more to because I was like, Now I'll be grand and I wouldn't be grand. He knew it. He knew I so much needed knowledge. Sometimes you need somebody else to make that decision for you when you're in court like that.

00:42:28:24 - 00:42:51:15
Unknown
Live. Our last parents had like another man. And like, what's today? This isn't. That's a moment where you just you're just trying to go through a process. Was the camera did it? It was only when someone I saw grabs a whole thing going, oh, it's a hard way to be no roe yet still, that's less. And you know, I think another big thing is like, not that my mum was anywhere near Christie's stature in Ireland, but she did have a she was well known.

00:42:51:15 - 00:43:11:24
Unknown
She was. And again, it's irrelevant because she was what I'm saying is as a daughter of that person. Yeah. When that does happen, I think for me, not that I was like, oh, I think, is it some kind of thing that you have with them that say, and people? She's gone. It's nearly like you feel like you're losing.

00:43:12:03 - 00:43:33:10
Unknown
Yeah. All of that. Yeah, yeah. That ocean of people that Adora actually. Yeah. And it's a fear actually. And it's not that be at my job every day or right now. But it was known she was loved so much and she had so many like that. You get this fear of I can't tell people she's gone because they're not going to be there now that the whole thing is gone.

00:43:33:14 - 00:43:53:20
Unknown
Janelle. Yeah, and I do know that your mama, my your dad and my mam were good, very good friends. And I think your dad, I'm thinking about when you were saying he was scary and people like, you know, is he gone? If you aren't, we'll do this because I remember even when was my mam's Fiona? I was like, I need Christy Dignam to come and sing with Fiona.

00:43:53:22 - 00:44:15:00
Unknown
And Rachel was like, Shane, can't ask preceding Isaac. Now I'm going to bring Catherine and I'm actually coming catch know Christy seeing that mass Fiona because now I want to show my like I mean my mass feels like it literally was like literally was when we had like pictures the size of that wall of we had big love lights, big signs everywhere, like was ridiculous but amazing.

00:44:15:03 - 00:44:31:23
Unknown
Yeah, we had a screen rapport I never forget I think was a night or two for Fiona. I was sitting there drinking about the Baileys because I couldn't handle it. Couldn't I was gone, I was I catch me to ask them and I did. Part of me was like, you know, Christine, that just kind of rock up until Fiona.

00:44:32:00 - 00:44:47:15
Unknown
She just said to me, he's going to do it like he thought. Love your mum, like he's going to do. Him and I were just like. Just like that. And Kerry's husband, toy and you know, I'll never forget him coming in because it was a funeral. He was. He was, Well, at the time, I remember he was really mad.

00:44:47:16 - 00:45:05:16
Unknown
And I was like, oh my God, I can't believe he's actually come home to do that. And he came in and I remember your mum saying to me, Shane is a great now. So I remember it was my mum's funeral and at the same time everyone wanted to be near Christy and I'm like, yeah, but.

00:45:05:18 - 00:45:21:22
Unknown
Kevin Costner got that back. Yeah. But and he did. He can't be upset. You want to say a few words and oh my God, it took me a back rifle. It was even though it was my mom's funeral, I was on the floor. I was on deck. Like I couldn't even breathe when your dad was there. But it was like a fucking concert.

00:45:21:24 - 00:45:41:13
Unknown
Everyone was like. Like it was amazing. The great celebration. And I swear to God, care. To this day. I remember him going out saying, I've never done a funeral before, like I've never done a this is the force for this kind of thing there, maybe with his family and stuff, but to just be rang and said, I don't know, like but example.

00:45:41:14 - 00:45:59:00
Unknown
No he didn't. If if somebody rang and asked about funeral, I haven't seen, you know, he just wouldn't eat and do funerals for very rare occasions. If it was something someone doing and it was a child, you know, little things like that. Very, very real eye for me to you and to your mother, Catherine. I will never, ever, ever forget him, Joe.

00:45:59:00 - 00:46:16:02
Unknown
Not for us. I will never. But it's so funny because then I was talking to me makeup artist last night, and she was telling me, about Christy and some amazing stuff that he's done for so many people. You know, like, I'm just not. Not so much. Yeah, like a charity. Even like a dad. And they didn't charge us.

00:46:16:03 - 00:46:37:05
Unknown
Like, they just kind of to do it. Yeah, but he was such a beautiful soul of a man like he's such. And you're, you know, every birth. And because you can then join our charity for us as well, like, you know, we are just he's an amazing family. Yeah. You have to support each other and like that. You were starting at the time as a very small organization, doing something for the right reasons.

00:46:37:05 - 00:46:52:13
Unknown
And you have to you have to be able to. Yeah. And you're very you're so beautiful that I was like, you know, Christy is such an asset, national treasure. I was like, can we put my man's picture? Is there like, yeah, shooting Christy was me, man. Yeah. Mam's friend. Like they had their own thing, like connection going on.

00:46:52:15 - 00:47:11:23
Unknown
She's good friends. Your mom, is that like. And then I remember just seeing her and him on the screen devoted and passed away. Yeah, we had them at the end of the gig, so I. If I close the gig, brought everything Joey should say. And I. Oh yeah. It was like, oh, Joey should say that the audience across the shop my I couldn't help it was like, you know, if I don't look.

00:47:11:23 - 00:47:26:22
Unknown
Yeah, I'm very good at that switch off. I don't if it's if I don't see it, it's not. It's not happening. Yeah. But looking back on pictures, it looked amazing. It was my best friend to have it added like she's the reason you started all of that. Oh, so she's behind me. It was a no brainer when you said, is there any chance you could pull up a picture like it was no rain?

00:47:26:22 - 00:47:42:12
Unknown
Of course it happened. You know, some people did like wants me, me down, like, you know, you know. But no, it was so lovely and an honor to be so. I wanted publicly say Christy Dignam is a legend and that was his show. So thanks. So when it starts, we're working on it, you know? Yeah. You're doing great.

00:47:42:14 - 00:48:01:10
Unknown
So tell me about your new album. So sorry to jump in on Christy. I jumped in on star one. No, no, no, I think I was kind of nearly dead by then. Anyway, so we were coming to the end of that story. But the reason I basically I stopped Keegan down was like, no, no more gig. And so that kind of allowed me to be there with me.

00:48:01:10 - 00:48:17:23
Unknown
Minder in the hell. Because we didn't have We Won't care, but I will come in and help. But we didn't have an army of people that were helping us. He didn't want that. I needed a way, to be honest. So it was just kind of myself, Army man, the kids essentially. And then the camera that would come in like medic to help us medically.

00:48:18:00 - 00:48:31:15
Unknown
So I was able to be there for that. It was cool that I was able to pull back on gigs for that reason, but it also meant that I could kind of start saying, you know, unless I get the album sorted, because my dad's going nowhere because this was that was again, the February he didn't title the June.

00:48:31:17 - 00:48:50:00
Unknown
So by like March April, I was like, he might be okay, so we're starting. You know what? I'm not Keegan. I'm going to bring this album. And the album was due to be released on the 10th of June. Yeah, and start getting really sick the week before. And I was like, oh, I'm going to put this off. Yeah.

00:48:50:06 - 00:49:09:22
Unknown
And he's I thought it so I and I pulled it off for a few weeks. But then obviously done. It was just put on the backburner altogether. Because I started realizing he's not actually okay and I thought he was okay. So when he passed away in June, I was like, obviously, yeah, you don't I don't know, I don't I don't know, it was kind of it.

00:49:09:24 - 00:49:30:08
Unknown
There was a lot of photographs like press wise, that's the only reason I know what kind of happened at that time, because I. You wanted to. Yeah, but I'm not the only time. I remember him dying was is like, two in the morning when I wake up and I'm like, do you know what I mean? When you kind of comes back to you and you remember, I wake up crying.

00:49:30:08 - 00:49:47:22
Unknown
Yeah, wake up. And I don't like, I haven't really I haven't really spoken about that time where I'm obviously the Darren because he was there myself. Darren and the kids were there. But Jake wasn't all that. We gave them the option if they wanted to be there. Because he was very, very close to them. So I didn't want to take that away from them.

00:49:47:22 - 00:49:52:16
Unknown
But at the same time, I didn't want I didn't want to be like this. This can be traumatic. And I didn't want

00:49:52:16 - 00:49:53:16
Unknown
to put that on the part

00:49:53:16 - 00:49:54:24
Unknown
someone's passing away.

00:49:55:04 - 00:50:14:06
Unknown
It's a thought of your last. So what they look like, will that be it? Yeah. Even the moment you want to be there now. But just, you know, we do. Always having when we die was just an image of because he was such quite remember I was like look great joining me in from that horrible it halves. Half that in your head is such a sad.

00:50:14:06 - 00:50:29:21
Unknown
Yeah. Sometimes you want to protect kids from the visions that you want them. That was my automatic. Oh he wasn't. I see my grandparents when he was doing those signal and I would stay away. Yeah. It's not okay. So with them all. Yeah. I didn't want to be like, you need to be here for this. But at the same time, I didn't want.

00:50:29:21 - 00:50:46:02
Unknown
We cannot allow people and then them hate me forever. Foreign. Yeah. You know what I mean? And it was it was hard and it was traumatic. But I did haven't spoken to them afterwards. So like it. Yeah, it was, but I'm glad I was there. Yeah. You know, I mean you can, you can edit if just I'm just saying this for now that if this does get edited that we can edit it.

00:50:46:02 - 00:51:06:08
Unknown
Right. So anything that said now you can edit I'm just going to ask you after that. I know that is come under a lot of backlash. We can now okay. Yeah. Come on a lot of backlash. And I remember me and you talking. Yeah. And I was like without going into hearing I'm not just I'm just saying I was like, this is his family.

00:51:06:10 - 00:51:28:22
Unknown
Like, you know, there was a bit of backlash with the band and stuff like that, how things and I remember even the funeral and stuff, and I think everyone was like watching and looking and stuff. Yeah. How did things progress after? Is everything okay now? Did it, did it just dwindle? Everything? It was the fire that you come on that it's not, like, just a bit too much.

00:51:28:22 - 00:51:46:16
Unknown
Yeah. The backlash was just lost her dad. Yeah. Catching just nostalgia has been. So regardless of any band or whatever the situations are, this is his children, his family. Again, it goes back to that. People think in that you're not you're not humans on your own. Yeah. Yes. Oh, sorry. Because I'm a little bit not lost. I'm a little bit lost.

00:51:46:16 - 00:52:02:11
Unknown
So I'm assuming anyone else is going to be listeners. Yeah, a little bit lost because you obviously I was just of an insulated savvy, but you just having a conversation with Flynn and everyone and that can be you know, they never talk about now. Well you can feels why was is the backlash I get into was the worship member all over the internet.

00:52:02:11 - 00:52:22:12
Unknown
So basically yeah. Right. So basically we decided to do a tribute gig. Is that right? Immediate memory because we wanted a private funeral. We ended up now we went to Erin's Oil and like, there was 2000s of people along Aaron Doyle, and they drove through to get to the funeral. We wanted a private funeral.

00:52:22:12 - 00:52:24:16
Unknown
We didn't want the service meme.

00:52:24:16 - 00:52:40:13
Unknown
I was kind of just like. And I, you know, like look over. Yeah. So basically myself in there and talk over it. And I was like, absolutely. Yeah. Closed the doors. Like, why had it? We had to I had to send it an email to say, like, Artie are not coming into the crematorium. I don't want any the film because otherwise they just do.

00:52:40:16 - 00:52:58:08
Unknown
Yeah. Which is fine. And if you're in the pub, if someone's in the public eye, I understand that. But unless you tell them nothing, they just assume like it's a it's a public place. But I was like, no, absolutely no. So after a few months, it was different people coming to us in the industry saying like, which is not to annoy you, just to let all the fans be together and celebrate his life.

00:52:58:08 - 00:53:13:13
Unknown
And I was like, no way. And then after a while, I was like, I should be a really nice yeah. Nice idea. Yeah. Where we get different people like me being one of them. We get different people in the industry to come and sing. Sing for, you know, his I don't want, say, his song. I like Aslan songs.

00:53:13:13 - 00:53:32:18
Unknown
Yeah. He had also had solo songs. He had songs like he loves Bowie songs that he likes to sing traditional songs. So that's what we kind of celebrate him through. Music essentially, is what we wanted to do. So what I mean is talking about when she says with backlash, when populist, when we announced this gig, we basically just put off by putting on this gig in Baker Street for me.

00:53:32:18 - 00:53:53:20
Unknown
Da yeah. And we went for Christie and, and Scott Coleman had to celebrate. Oh, brilliant. We meant it in the nice. The nicest way to say it, the sentiment behind it was cool and celebrate. But there was a I want it not I don't want to say majority, but I don't say minority because it wasn't very clear.

00:53:53:20 - 00:54:20:07
Unknown
It was kind of just like, wait, if people had an opinion? Yeah. You know, what makes everybody like, yeah, like ourselves. Everybody has an opinion. That's fine. Yeah, that's absolutely, totally cool. But people who are uneducated, who don't know what's going on in the background of some. Yeah, have such a strong opinion because sometimes, like if you kind of take Genoa, like if you don't know like like like you're saying John, you're like, well, I don't know what to say.

00:54:20:13 - 00:54:37:12
Unknown
We just oh yeah, I'm ignorant to like me. Yeah. When you say no, I'm ignorant with that situation, you're not gonna sit there and be like, well, I think these are. I think that, oh, you're not going to make assumptions and then put them all over the internet because you don't know. They don't you know, most people did do that and know some ridiculous things.

00:54:37:12 - 00:54:56:12
Unknown
Because basically when the when the gig was announced, there was some there was a post put up on the band, sorry to say. We were, we've been getting we've been inundated with messages, which I'm sure isn't the case. But anyway, we've been inundated with messages asking if if we are going to be involved in the in the gig.

00:54:56:14 - 00:55:16:16
Unknown
Yeah, we're letting you know that we won't be there. We haven't been invited. So I don't know what award. Yeah. Just this is from the band as the band's manager speaking for them. Yeah. And now I never I never thought of the same thing this night. They won't be here. I didn't get into any of that because there's private things in the background that I wasn't gonna publicly speaking about.

00:55:16:18 - 00:55:35:09
Unknown
So I didn't bring that on. But important that. Oh, that then is like ten people, like, hang on a minute. Yeah. So that caused a lot of shit, caused a controversy. Then instead of just leave him alone. And that's his daughter. She's not negate the family. It could have been done in that way, but it was deliberately not built for like, things.

00:55:35:09 - 00:55:54:18
Unknown
Do I have to wrap my mind? I have a tribute to how many people that I have gone, and I mean neighbors are people in my local area. I have gone and done. Whether it's benefit night are, say, somebody dies of cancer and the family will do a fundraiser night for a charity. The amount of things like that over the years I've done, I've never once ha, I'm on a call online.

00:55:54:18 - 00:56:11:17
Unknown
How dare they do that for no. Yeah, why should it? Why should I not be allowed to do that? Because. Oh my God. Oh yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Anyway. So yeah. But that this is what it is that's you know, so there was a lot there was, it got pretty heavy and as like my head it was, it was really was me.

00:56:11:17 - 00:56:24:24
Unknown
I thought, I can take things with a pinch of salt and be like, no. But I mean, it was, was that you have to remember said I was great. I was just gonna say you are in the height of grief. That's what was the bigger trigger for me, because I think we can, you know, true life. You can see in that way I don't really care.

00:56:24:24 - 00:56:42:03
Unknown
But when you're in that pain, doing it, and I'm also then trying to be kind of this gracious little daisy flower and say nothing and just be quiet and don't rock the boat and don't upset people. And because the more you say it and the more she kind of thing. But then I got to content you anyway. I say might as well.

00:56:42:03 - 00:57:06:11
Unknown
So I was like, I have to put I have to pause. Or maybe because it got to the point where I felt that, yeah, I have to do the same. So was that so? So from Joe Public it just fans and generally. But then there was how do I say this politically? There was family members of the band, the band members that would be attacking me now.

00:57:06:13 - 00:57:21:07
Unknown
There was also, I have to say, one of the one of the band starters ended up getting involved and one of them and saying, listen, this needs to stop and offers an off. In fairness to are very, very respectful. And I want to be honest with you, I would do the same for if I ever saw a run like that.

00:57:21:09 - 00:57:44:05
Unknown
Because she didn't after now. But there was, there was members, there was members that that, Opinion and started spread. Natalie Walshe I don't mind someone having an opinion, even if that opinion is wrong or unfounded, but there was there was non truths like for example, one of the things was like conversations that was happening in between some of these people was that not even care.

00:57:44:05 - 00:58:01:09
Unknown
It was the doctors at the doctor fell out with the band because they won't let her be the lead singer. That's right, that's right. So that was one thing I had a little I was like, oh, man, I assume this is a band of 60 year old man singing since I was 14, 12, in my own right. But fuck do I want to sing with them?

00:58:01:14 - 00:58:15:19
Unknown
I am not doing them tribute. Yeah, I will always. Since he passed away. When I'm doing a gig, I will sing one of the songs or I'll sing songs dedicated to him, or a song I love to sing, one that preceding tribute. And I thought fucking attention to me and I certainly don't want to be. And I was like, oh, I'm sure, I'm sure.

00:58:15:19 - 00:58:37:03
Unknown
Yeah, I would, would love that. We would love me being a singer for my daughter. We sing the songs. Yeah, and whole band. Who's gonna play what we would be proud to call us. Yeah. And the darkness down there. Especially if he's putting on a gig, as there were all these, like ten. Dempsey. Like the Irish legends. Yeah.

00:58:37:04 - 00:58:52:23
Unknown
And more specifically, before we died, it was probably like it was this is not me saying, like, this is what my dad told me in a private room. He done an interview. His last interview with Ryan Tubridy, and he said that he's like, oh, if anybody has the right to sing those songs, it's caring and I want to carry on my legacy.

00:58:52:23 - 00:59:09:15
Unknown
Those are I mean, those are the only quotes that, you know. So I'm like, I'm doing something that my dad asked me to do. Yeah, I'm not gonna get slaughtered. Very like, where am I? Where am I going wrong again? At the same time, a lot of people don't know the ins and outs, so I get it for my point.

00:59:09:15 - 00:59:31:13
Unknown
My only thing was, listen, have your opinions. But it's very, very easy to type online composer and and. Yeah. And then get caught up in this thing. But my thing was maybe rather than do the maybe read between the lines. Yeah. If somebody if somebody is consultant and they don't have certain people involved or there's something going on, maybe say, okay, Joe, we don't know.

00:59:31:15 - 00:59:47:08
Unknown
Yeah, exactly. The kind of thing is, you know, got it, got it. You're gonna know the score is they got it for 40 years. Yeah. They're going to be. It's going to be for so long I don't know. Oh completely I mean like a waste is our brothers. Yeah. Fucking kill each other. Yeah. You know what I mean.

00:59:47:08 - 01:00:08:20
Unknown
So and I, I and I do. There's going to be really that your eyes are home privately saying to you, for fuck's sake. But they're not I'm saying. Yeah. So obviously. Yeah. But when the scenes stay in my mind, as I said, my thing was maybe if we have made the decision because I was getting these and it like 40 years together, I think Christie would want like Christie would want them there.

01:00:08:20 - 01:00:25:00
Unknown
And I'm like me, if anybody knows, want me to, I would want it. Yeah, I think it's me, not you strange person who's never. Yeah, you know what I mean? Like, the close you've ever been is because that is what your dad wanted. I'm sure you would have done that. Yeah, yeah. So. Absolutely. Just watch it again. I haven't said this.

01:00:25:00 - 01:00:42:04
Unknown
No, I haven't said this out. There was no. Yeah. And and I'm not saying this or anything because at the end of the day it is what it is. And if I'm telling the truth about something, if a lot of people are talented, people can tell the truth down and not be necessarily true. This is actual facts. I already went against my dad's wishes on some,

01:00:42:15 - 01:00:43:24
Unknown
to be honest.

01:00:43:24 - 01:00:57:13
Unknown
Yeah. Why us by allowing them to be at the funeral? Because obviously he asked us not to do and I went against his wishes on that because we sat down the day before the funeral, said, you know what? It's not the writing like initially I was like, now I he don't. You wouldn't want that. He said he didn't want that.

01:00:57:13 - 01:01:13:08
Unknown
And I think it was actually Darren was like, well, we have to live with that. And to be honest, although things happened, like you say, have things change, have to stop. There are no they haven't gone there. Well, at the same time, I can still stand up and say, you know what? Whether whenever I meet me die again, I'll apologize to him.

01:01:13:08 - 01:01:37:03
Unknown
Dad. I'm sure he'll understand. I need to know what happened, I swear, and I do, I do know a bit of the thing. Because me and Kayla make friends, you know? And I have to say, you held yourself so well, Keira. True. And I try it because when I was looking at you and my heart, from what I knew, I was like, I like, I can't do, you know, like, I want to scream from the.

01:01:37:03 - 01:01:58:03
Unknown
And I remember a few times you texted me going here, I'm not writing this. Then delete this and then you're not writing this comment. And I'm like, so dignified through the whole thing because I knew the scale is in the height of grief and the situation behind this, right or wrong, whatever the situation is, she's trying to deal with all of this and she's just getting blasted.

01:01:58:04 - 01:02:21:21
Unknown
No matter what, I literally, no matter what you did, put your dignity and you were a lady. You were saying that. So you saying that, and I know you said you had said of far public as far as wishes were for them not to be at the funeral. Yeah, obviously, Deborah, a all at the time. And that was although the beating said there have been things said after saying like about it about a funeral and like the only found out about the funeral, I thought it was sort of said like we only found out about a funeral the day before.

01:02:21:22 - 01:02:38:00
Unknown
I mean, to what did you want to tell you for months beforehand to plan a funeral for a few days anyway. So nice, isn't it? As well as you're sorry before I say, it's not hard hitting as well, because people fall ill and it's a humor. Things like if we fall out with people and it's still. I still want to go with that.

01:02:38:00 - 01:02:54:04
Unknown
I want to show respect. Yeah. I don't know if you're still angry. I don't want to. I don't want these guys human being the same, regardless of whatever the band or whatever the band on our band, some people are just like, you know, with people. I got married. Yeah. You should not separate. Yeah. Look at each other, but they want to.

01:02:54:04 - 01:03:15:19
Unknown
God was saying they want to say goodbye. Yeah. I'm gonna follow up with the brothers and sisters. And no one would never be on that side. Because we're the ones where you don't really what to say. Yeah. If you want to show. Yeah. As I said, I don't regret that. I don't regret it. Because at the end of the day, no matter what went on or no matter what is going on, 40 is a long time to be in someone's life.

01:03:15:19 - 01:03:31:10
Unknown
And like, I wouldn't take I don't think I want you to life. I'm sure. Absolutely you are. You are like a daughter of the band, you know, that's the thing. And so it is. It's it's shit and it's hard. But at the same time, I can turn around and say, I feel we did the right thing by allowing us to be there regardless.

01:03:31:10 - 01:03:46:24
Unknown
As I said, whenever I see my daughter again, yeah, he sends me photos sometimes. So when I see me next, I'm like, sorry about that, I know. Yeah, well, you do understand what I mean. Isn't that thing of when I'm so I don't I don't want to, but when the bands follow on a whim, I'm just like, what's that?

01:03:47:01 - 01:03:58:05
Unknown
They don't weigh me. If I want to ask a question, they want to edit stuff out. If you want that, I'll keep saying I want. I just wanted your answer on the final answer if I don't like it because it was even had I had an issue of drugs as well, I didn't mean yeah, that was totally no.

01:03:58:06 - 01:04:15:22
Unknown
That was something that was on years and years and years and years that. Yeah. You know, hey, listen, we are is not one of us. It's not the family with someone that do any. Yeah. You know what I mean. I know that's me. That's all. Well well documented. You want. I haven't seen that as a grown up as a community.

01:04:16:00 - 01:04:33:07
Unknown
Yeah, yeah it did see I didn't. Yeah, well I was sheltered to a saying like I was always very he was always very open. Always very. This is the way it is. These are issues I've had. These are the reasons I've had those issues. Explain to me what had happened. Childhood trauma explained all that I can carry on life.

01:04:33:09 - 01:04:49:05
Unknown
Yeah. And you know what I mean. I got through it and look. So uncle come out and fast somewhere to little. And growing up and seeing this character for you. I know for me in jobs town growing up around that in life in general, everyone doing what I do and drugs, not jokes. How is that for you?

01:04:49:05 - 01:05:06:20
Unknown
Wound up in Finglas in them kind of areas for me. I just just didn't get involved didn't I? Yeah. Well why I just didn't it never. I actually only had this conversation with someone Joe today and I can't remember why, but it never really appealed to me. I don't know if subconsciously the older I'm getting, you know, when you kind of reflect.

01:05:06:24 - 01:05:26:00
Unknown
Yeah, the older I'm getting on thinking maybe subconsciously because I saw the damage girls can do. I was probably like, oh, an awful time where some people can totally fall into that, you know, they can fall into it because it's a kind of a generational. Yeah. Illness. Yeah. Yeah. Can be kind of handed down like almost some people could say you could almost be hereditary.

01:05:26:00 - 01:05:43:10
Unknown
That's. Oh yeah. Yeah yeah I would be an alcoholic. And it does happen. You might ask, you might ask two granddaughters where they might ask two granddaughters literally died on barstools like that. Like, yeah, well, you did tell me the other day that this fellows can. He said it was telling me to drink problems and everything else, and he gambled.

01:05:43:12 - 01:05:58:15
Unknown
And then he just text next sentence. He was like, because of me die. And he was like I said, well, and it goes down as an alcoholic and a gambler. So I was kind of I was taught. So that's why. But that's what he said. You gotta some people are. But I mean, that's kind of a brother doesn't drink at all.

01:05:58:15 - 01:06:20:20
Unknown
And he says, we fight. I want to drink. Yes. Sometimes I didn't see me. That was an iconic. Oh, but you drink every night, like all men of his age, demanded a public type, omnivorous, like so. I find that weird statement. I think it's been mistaken. Well, because if you are, if you are to say, oh, you got abused physically as a choice, you got yourself physically abused, that's, you know, that's not the case.

01:06:20:20 - 01:06:36:08
Unknown
And I remember that was actually should be the opposite, as you say. You can try it. It's like taking a lesson and saying on nothing. Like for example, I remember me years ago saying, oh, I'm just glad because he was abused. He's like, I'm just glad I never, he says, I abused myself. I never abused anyone else. Yeah, yeah.

01:06:36:08 - 01:06:54:05
Unknown
And I remember thinking, Jesus Christ, imagine feeling that love about yourself that you feel like you deserve, that you've already gone through all of that. And then to have to, you know, even on that subject, my I was abused and it's something where, you know, you'd be watching the talk shows is can you like. But I was abused, so I abused.

01:06:54:07 - 01:07:12:03
Unknown
It was another thing. My, my you see I would say that's not the case. Not when you're abused. It doesn't mean you become an abuser. You know what I'm saying? Let's listen. Hoard people, hoard people. And it's weird saying what something's up way and saying, but I get it. But at the same time, I don't think I know my mom is like, I know what bomb I went through.

01:07:12:03 - 01:07:33:13
Unknown
So I was never gonna inflict that trauma on somebody. So it's a matter of taking that and choose and not inflict on something like, it's a choice. Yeah, I know sometimes some people can be segmented when it comes to addictions and stuff. That's a whole load, a whole load. I think it is. It's an illness, obviously, but when you're talking about just because you were a whore to abuse doesn't mean do you know what I mean?

01:07:33:13 - 01:07:50:00
Unknown
It looks like you literally took one of it. No. Absolutely no. No, it's a and as I said, we don't look at it as a banality opposite of what is a new thing. You're very level headed care. As I said, I know you and Sophie are children, so it's not always a generational thing. We all devil all the way down, you know?

01:07:50:02 - 01:08:05:19
Unknown
So speaking of your children, is one of them going into the music industry, did I say is one of them? Is any of them following in the video you're probably talking about was keen. So keen plays guitar. So as I said, he wants to be a teacher in English and history. Teacher? Well, he plays guitar, so we always had a rule in the house.

01:08:05:21 - 01:08:22:07
Unknown
When they're young, they have to learn to record of sort and whether it's like a guitar, it's like legally, if you want to live in this house. Yeah. That's what musicians. Yeah. And we try to all them. The only one it really stuck with was Keane, Avis. Avis a good singer. Well, she's still a little confidence wise. She's still kind of.

01:08:22:07 - 01:08:38:24
Unknown
No I don't want to do it. Yeah. But like. No I started with that karaoke. Great. So you should actually have to go to get into Joe's home. It's my shell. That's all I want is on Monday. Yeah. But yeah, it's like that Queen's candlestick guitar and he's amazing on it. Like, really put him. I don't think career wise I'm going to go that.

01:08:39:03 - 01:08:56:18
Unknown
No thank God because it's, it's it's funny because you were saying a minute ago the imam was like, oh, I don't want it to go to music college. I wanted to do my own thing. And you were saying the same about kids? Why is that? I just know how hard it is. The same way. To be honest with you, my dad was 110% supportive and 210% me biggest fan.

01:08:56:20 - 01:09:14:20
Unknown
But at the same time he was like, it's difficult to study. That's how we were. I wanted to ask you that in the end, Sheeran now, because you say that, you know that your support yourself, your funding yourself, you are trying your best to get it all going. There's no, record labels reason behind it. Is that what we are saying?

01:09:14:20 - 01:09:30:11
Unknown
A minute ago? So is there much competition in Ireland at the moment? Is it had industry to be in with the amount because I don't really hear what's up and coming artists. Yeah. As I do, it's quite a lot of, a lot of it is kind of cliquey, you know what I mean? Like it's kind of who it's it's who, you know.

01:09:30:11 - 01:09:47:08
Unknown
And although people will think, well yeah. Christy Dignam star, it's going to be easy. It isn't, you know, and I remember saying in an interview before somebody in one of the newspapers was like, is do you find that you kind of get a leg opposite who had ideas? And I was like, absolutely not. Sometimes it's it's almost it's more it's more of a hindrance now.

01:09:47:08 - 01:10:02:20
Unknown
I said that for want of that award. But then of course, the headline is Kerry Dignam says Being Christy daughter is a hindrance. And then I guess a lot of her that's like, like, how can she say that the chick has been in the limelight by saying, that's not what I was saying. It's for people to take things out context.

01:10:02:22 - 01:10:21:07
Unknown
Yeah, it was out there. Yeah. And because of my lack of filter and my lack of not like saying it me, Brian, me, Brian on the carried utter no for it's now like I well you know it's my name. I don't have that part of my brain. That's okay. We said enough about well let's pull back a bit.

01:10:21:11 - 01:10:40:21
Unknown
That's not there. Yeah, that Holly God didn't give me that. So as a result, I talk and talk and talk a talk. And it's very, very easy for things to be taken out of context and people love it. And we always want to aim is to all make sense. Yeah. As humans the individual. Not so the album. What's the name?

01:10:40:23 - 01:10:59:08
Unknown
The album. So the fourth album I had, which was when I eventually take the Covid album that I eventually brought out. Yeah, I kind of Takanawa I'm always called a nipple baby. It's always Christy start. So I called the album Apple Baby because I went to great and I was it was highly advised against Real Baby. Yeah party.

01:10:59:08 - 01:11:17:06
Unknown
And they, I ended up getting a distribute a record distribution deal after because I had paid for the album and then they came up on distribute. So the record company right here, people are on a teenager being sarcastic. And I was like, I am being sarcastic. Sorry, what is wrong with being sarcastic? I don't know if I should ask this on a podcast and look, absolutely we can be.

01:11:17:06 - 01:11:36:20
Unknown
I had to be asking me that for me. And so nepotism is basically you, you get a leg up essentially because your parents are against the law. Is that. Yeah. So if you have it, if you're walk on a job, they've got Kyle hair guys, one of his kids in and he goes I'll get you a job. And we place.

01:11:36:22 - 01:11:54:04
Unknown
That's nepotism. They should get the job because I qualify as a family member. Yes. It's like you have to advertise the job. People. Yeah, people are doing it. That way. It used to be a big thing where you got a job, your mom or dad died. What? They did, they said that, and you got your job and brought up the ladder before other people.

01:11:54:04 - 01:12:13:20
Unknown
Yeah, because you're a family member. That's a little bit bad. That's why I wanted to be smart on it, because, as you say, I was at a deal on the album. I walked on the album, I sang like my dad. Come and sing on the album. For me, that's me singing, so I did. I earned my place to have that one phone call, and it's a great article.

01:12:13:24 - 01:12:31:00
Unknown
It's a great it's my way. I also listen, isn't it good? Look at the what's the look? The same if the people have got an issue. How many people have got family members? Your talent is in you and it's in your blood and the passion is in it. And I see it every day. And you wouldn't you want to be on that?

01:12:31:01 - 01:12:45:04
Unknown
And when I don't want to go on. And if you have a voice and the power and the knowledge, you can do it. Look at it, look at that. Look at Danny from The Crown. Isn't all this family, you know what I mean? That's it. I mean, the families out there that does gangs. And I'm excited, hear all the music.

01:12:45:10 - 01:13:08:05
Unknown
I'm like, you're a little be. Oh, yeah, I remember the only I used to try. And I always try and think things in layman's terms. I can understand when somebody else is trying to explain and so on without being too clever, because I know. So I mean, I do kind of think of it in a way, like, have you ever walked into your local butcher who's standing beside a song like himself and songs like I walked into That Moment, You're fucking sheep, which are your own?

01:13:08:08 - 01:13:11:11
Unknown
Because. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:13:11:13 - 01:13:31:03
Unknown
Yeah. No, it's not, it's not. It's only us I know personally, but I just assume it's probably a fairly minority of people that would be have that. You know what I mean. Yeah. What's haters gonna hate. Yeah. They're gonna look for fucking ways and point. That's why I went with the tongue in cheek, especially when they're not happy with their own lives.

01:13:31:09 - 01:13:52:04
Unknown
I was just to say, it's unfortunate that, like, a big thing in this life is to maybe support people in class. One of the worst thing is trying to kick some people off. We spoke about that last week. People, and I think it's an I get it. I don't yeah I when I see someone doing well I'm like, yes, yes, yes, go back.

01:13:52:09 - 01:14:07:12
Unknown
Just keep doing what you're doing. You know, that's because you're happy and secure in yourself. And a lot of people aren't, you know. So before we wrap up because you don't have to and it's been a great having having you on time. So yeah this set to go on for about a week. It's something I wish you were here for, for the time because I didn't pay for your parking.

01:14:07:14 - 01:14:29:05
Unknown
So that's why I was like, yeah. Anyways, that's another he doesn't pay bills, they don't pay back. They pack. And they're really letting yourself out on this podcast, the Dance, the Bleeding Society. So. So what's the name of the new album? So I don't know. Yeah I don't know. Yeah. So I released and and signed and I have a new EP called which is 100%.

01:14:29:05 - 01:14:47:03
Unknown
And we have this are now because we want to tell if wherever you get your, you get your music, that's the full name. So what's the don't you put in carer take them care they call me back catalog with me new single which was this day last week. It's called imagery. Share that. Yeah. So that's this is these are me tariff songs.

01:14:47:05 - 01:15:04:16
Unknown
So these are lead on these. This is like the EP that let us and Apple baby. So with an apple baby I walked to a producer. I worked with a songwriter where I kind of didn't feel I had full kind of creative. Yeah. And flow. Yeah. Whereas with this, it's there's full miles on my lyrics. It's my my from it's raw.

01:15:04:16 - 01:15:18:19
Unknown
Yeah, my kind of way I walk a friend of mine column Gavin who's an amazing singer songwriter. He's helped me with the music. So I was able to kind of sit with him and walk through exactly what sound I wanted. And then in the studio with my producer, Stuart, I was able to like, I'd like drums here, I'd like strings here.

01:15:18:21 - 01:15:33:19
Unknown
So That'll Give Me the Rain is out at the moment on Spotify, and then by the end of November I'll have a Christmas song. Actually, we wrote last year, but I didn't give myself enough time to bring it out for Christmas. Okay, so getting that out for Christmas. Yeah. So now, needless to say, it's not one of them.

01:15:33:19 - 01:15:52:20
Unknown
Cheesy because you know me well enough to know that I'm the only bastard. So it's a sad Christmas song. So I'm really excited about let's bring people down like it's funny. Yeah, I really I mean, if anybody is, man. No, it's not even the Grinch. It's just the Grinch thing. Yeah. I don't even know if anybody has any joy.

01:15:52:20 - 01:16:09:19
Unknown
Yeah. And he has to say, I just want to make sure I ripped off. Right. Okay. That's good. That's a that's a good entrance. It was all for me, you know. So it's about being sad and about sometimes Christmas this year for people. Yeah. So I want it to be a there was no songs out there because it was when I wrote it was the first Christmas without me.

01:16:09:19 - 01:16:27:00
Unknown
Dad and I kind of to all I'm hearing is, is do you know what I mean? All I want for Christmas is you type of bullshit, which those rights are actually. So I just wanted to be able to kind of. She just she just put like, oh yeah. So Mariah, I know she follows me. I'm one of her inspirations.

01:16:27:02 - 01:16:42:11
Unknown
No, I just wanted to kind of have a song that represented how I was kind. And I think that, like, if you know yourself, lots of parents, it my kind. It make you if basically to be having an empty seat at the table does that shit and it's hard to look at and I'm like, I'm gonna write about that.

01:16:42:14 - 01:17:01:15
Unknown
And then I will say, yeah, I was looking forward to I'm looking forward to it being I'm absolutely great. Guest. Thanks for coming on the credit. I very nice golf. And then and then obviously the grand hour at the door I was sitting in the corner. Collins and Hazel fair play Charlie dabs tonight. You have a ball. Guess it was good babysitting.

01:17:01:15 - 01:17:19:15
Unknown
Yeah, yeah, but I can say that. But I've had people I babysit for three that's gone on stage. What, am I going to be famous? I'm really bad on my little. So so I am. Thanks. So Daniels again for being an absolute fucking smash. And go home. Thank you Dan. Give it up for Kyle over there. Producer of the fucking century.

01:17:19:18 - 01:17:36:14
Unknown
And also we wouldn't be here but we won't be here. But we got to have had my help from do that. Do you have to do that with that. That's like stellar. You're probably fan like you probably can't get your feel the lambs best feeling buddy. Fantastic. You get the movie because I'm I'm an artists I need to bring you.

01:17:36:17 - 01:17:54:11
Unknown
When we get you back, we're going to get you back. You have to call in the agent because we're going to start getting the food off them. Manju. Sam. This time, Frankie, send us some bleeding feelings. Oh, you met for the north side. Our to speak. We have a guest on and we're going to be filming the and.

01:17:54:13 - 01:18:11:04
Unknown
This is an 80 podcast, actually for Eddie Fairfield. We just have to get a carrier pigeon to bring a voucher for lunch. Now that we got just some lambs, I get you sometimes I'm joking. We take the money I want. I just wanted a shot. And Joe, thank you, thank you tonight and God bless.