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what is going on everybody
welcome to lunch with the
collides dale it is lunch
time it is my favorite time
of the day I get to hang
out with my friends and
talk about the world of
sports and entertainment
and specifically crossfit
um so good to see you all
what's up corey I'm
meredith saying good
morning holly best stats
and information person in the business
uh trent olive it's
lunchtime it is it's
lunchtime um trying to find
something uh in my email
and I'm having a hard time
with that for some reason um anyway
I wanted to share what CrossFit sent out.
There it is.
Okay.
So, let's saw a dart.
I haven't done that in a while.
Here we go.
Oh, goodness.
I thought it was there and
then the tip dipped right at the,
right at the, so about three inches low.
ah hate when the tip dips
man oh it was right there
was going in it right at
the very end draw your
dagger are you going to WFP I am not
I am focusing on the masters
and teens CrossFit games
here in Columbus.
And then WFP is the next week.
I just,
I can't take after the games and
that take another week off
within that timeframe.
So, yeah, I just can't get out there this,
this time.
Plus,
I don't think I'm number one on their
fanboy list right now after
what's been going on the last few months.
And what's crazy is I've
only criticized their content.
I have not criticized
anything else about them,
but they take everything so
hard and come at me so hard after that.
Anyway.
I digress.
We're going to talk about it
more as that kind of approaches.
We'll cover it just like we
cover everything else.
But anyway,
I'm in a riffy kind of mood today.
So we're going to look at
some things where I have
been asked questions,
challenged in comments,
and we're going to talk
about those a little bit.
It's going to be a fun day.
But anyway,
I wanted to show everybody this
new CrossFit campaign, marketing campaign,
whatever you want to call it.
But it is called CrossFit is the Cure.
And I wanted to show, like,
as part of the media,
I got an email from them.
And I'm going to share it
because there's nothing
really major in here, right?
So in here, they talk about...
They talk about all the
stuff that they're doing,
that they're launching this
campaign and they want everybody,
especially us to spread the word.
And they're giving us all
the assets that they have
available to put out there.
So if you saw yesterday on my Instagram,
I posted the one video.
A lot of other people from
the media world have done the same.
So essentially they have a link.
And I will stop sharing and
show you what the link goes to.
It goes to a Google Drive.
So here we are on Google.
And here's the social media guide.
So here's all the social
media stuff that they're posting.
They're giving to the media
to download and for us to
be able to post it as well.
I go back F the quick fix
here are the videos in
three different formats to
be able to share on
different social media
avenues so not only do I
think it's a great campaign
but I love the way
that they're sharing the
information with the media
for them to be able to share it out.
They're not acting like this
is mine and mine alone and
try to copy and paste or
screen grab or whatever.
They're actually,
they sent all this to the
media and gave them access
to all the assets and we
can post them at will to
our social medias, social medias,
that sounds weird,
to our social media
accounts and be able to
share this message.
And what's great about this
message is it's about
that you can't substitute the hard work.
You can't substitute what it
takes to become healthy.
You have to put in the work
and that CrossFit is the cure.
You know, there are no shortcuts.
It's really, we hate to break it to you.
There are no shortcuts, right?
It's all about the hard work.
It's all about getting that
message out that there is no quick pill.
There is no quick fix.
It is all about putting in
the work and that CrossFit
can be the cure for the
world's most vexing problem.
And I've talked about it for
a couple weeks that in the
last few months, CrossFit has...
gone back to what their
definition of who they are are and
that they are now pointing
at their North Star more.
And because of this,
we have seen an uptick in
the popularity of the sport
and what is coming to be.
And that's why the games I
felt this year had a vibe
like they haven't had in
five or six years.
Coordinated communication,
what a lovely concept.
They should make some
t-shirts using the slogan.
They should.
And I'm sure they will.
You know, they've,
they've rebranded all of
their marketing to that old school,
forging elite fitness, pukey,
the clown routine is the enemy,
all those things.
So I do not,
it would not surprise me that
they are going to make
these into shirts as well,
because it's getting back to,
you got to put in the work.
jose got those two helps add
it to the gym page right
yeah if you're if you're
building up a social media
presence or a website now
you have these assets to
put on your website uh to
to kind of pump people up I
love the campaign finally
we got a rosy we got a rosy
view photography sighting
jess is in the building god
I miss her some of the most
fun times at events were
with her and jamie and the
giggle fest that would take
place uh but she's busy
creating a human being
right now and I can't wait
to see what happens there
Alito, not to be a party pooper,
but did you see Hiller's reel?
Is it true Will and Jackson
could be the potential new owners?
I do not know, Lito.
I just saw that myself.
I have not been able to
reach out to Hiller yet.
I'll reach out to him
probably after the show.
And then maybe we can
discuss more tomorrow when Corey's on.
But I'll reach out and find
out how true the rumor is
and how much I can say.
But we'll see.
Jess, I miss you too.
Um,
Scott's only been asking for this for
about three years.
Yeah.
Just communicate,
just have like real press releases.
That's what this is.
This is what professional
organizations do.
They create a press release
to give to the press,
to give to the media,
to send out their message all.
And because you're controlling the message,
you now send out something
important and valuable for your company.
Yes.
Yes.
And yes.
So anyway,
I wanted to share with you how
it was sent to us and how
they have changed the way
they've been doing things.
Um, so yeah, really excited about that.
On a side note,
one thing that's been killing me is,
you know, I live here in Columbus and
the seven K run was announced.
I am getting DMS from
masters athletes asking me
what the terrain is like, uh,
for the seven K run,
what the path looks like.
Um, so I'm going to tell all of you here,
if you're a masters athlete,
it is a downtown walking, running path,
It is very urban.
That means it's paved, I believe,
the entire way.
It is paved the entire way.
And it's pretty flat.
If there might be a slight
uphill grade out with a
slight downhill grade back, but man,
Columbus is flat.
There just is not...
any there's no I grew up in
western pennsylvania in the
appalachian mountains there
are no hills or mountains
here in ohio um so yes it's
very flat very a very easy
run um brett is telling all
of his opponents very hilly
wear trail running shoes
very muddy yeah we want a
level playing field
Level playing field.
All right.
We're going to get into some
pettiness now.
I thought this was going to be over.
The real question is,
what are the temperatures like?
Dude.
The temperature could be anything.
The saying here in Ohio is,
if you don't like the weather,
just wait ten minutes and it'll change.
Right now, it has been moderately warm,
no rain, and dry.
So that is what it's been
for a week or so.
who people are here for the petty.
Okay.
Yes,
just an easy seven K. No problem at all.
Okay,
so if most of you have been following
the story,
Hiller made a video about me
and Lauren Khalil a few weeks back.
Lauren and I have had a
discussion since then.
We talked it all out.
But she has been on shows
and the topic goes to that
she said she had enhanced
access and really didn't
and that she couldn't read.
She goes to Sylvan Learning
Center and that she wasn't
able to read her email that
said she just had regular access.
And that's fine.
If that's her story, that's fine.
But what's missing in all that is
that my original statement
was that karma finally came
around because people were
not treating each other
with respect and dignity.
And listen,
you can come at me all you want,
and I'm pretty laid back about it.
I don't get upset.
I don't say what you will about me.
I'm all good.
Mess with my family, we got a problem.
And what happened was Lauren
messed with my family.
She messed with Cheryl.
She messed with Jamie.
She made them think that she
had more access than we did.
There was a shove involved.
There was stuff like that to
get interviews at the
semifinals in twenty twenty three.
I believe twenty twenty three.
So.
that was my karma thing my
karma thing was that that
finally the people that
have been rude to others
didn't get the access and
we finally did and dang it
that that point has been
lost over the fact that she
said that she couldn't read
her email and now
everybody's forgiving her
so anyway on the I'm going
to share a screen because I
didn't like normally I
would not share these
comments with you all live
on a podcast but they went
in a direction that I just didn't like
so I was listening to in the
box office the two girls on
thursday night on be
friendly and they were
talking about how it's all
over and lauren actually
did get some content and
blah blah blah and so what
I did is I simply wrote a
comment and it's right here
in the middle um here we go so
I said about the Lauren video, Hiller did,
was more than did she read
the email correctly.
Lauren was still extremely
rude and mean to the female
members of my team.
She made them feel less than
her and portrayed a story
that she was entitled to
more because the company she was with.
And then I said,
that is more icky than any
Hiller video because they
were dogging Hiller for the video.
Then Caitlin comes in and says,
quick question.
Do you think what someone
like Dents does publicly to
thousands of people is any different?
one this story had nothing
to do with jenny from dense
updates so where caitlyn's
going is I don't and I do
not understand so I said to
her caitlyn I'm just
pointing out that the
original issue was me
saying that people finally
got karma with credentials
at the games I did not
mention names others did
but now we are forgiving
lauren because she couldn't
read her reading is not why
I said what I said
was all I was pointing out.
Just a major misdirection
from the original story as
someone who has scratched
and clawed for everything
for six years and been
treated very poorly at times.
I felt like there was
finally a time for karma.
Then Mesa jumps in and says,
feel like this avoided the question hard.
Where I responded,
I felt like the question
was diverting me away from
the original point.
And then Mesa called me a politician.
Where I came back and said,
the question wasn't
relevant to the original story.
Jenny has never been mean or
rude to me or my team.
Lauren was,
and I was just setting the
record straight.
So why, I don't understand why...
When you're arguing about a point,
we have to bring in other
people into this story that
have nothing to do with it
and change the argument to
something else.
Jenny has been nothing but
kind to me and my team.
Why do I need to get into a
fight about Jenny?
That's not what this was about.
This was about someone being
rude to the female members of my team.
And getting access above
what I had when we had the same accesses.
That's all it was about.
And they're trying to bring
in Hiller and Jenny and all
these other people about
what's going on to divert
you away from the original
story of what happened.
This was about Lauren and
others being rude to my team.
Not Jenny.
Linda, don't mess with Scott's team.
Love it.
Honestly, like, come at me all you want.
I can take it.
Don't mess with my family.
The Clydesdale Army will not
stand for that.
So anyway,
and they're trying to justify
the original point.
I think you're right.
Train olive.
It sucks.
I didn't.
All I said originally was karma.
Finally bit people in the
ass where it needed to.
That was it.
And now they're trying to
bring this into everybody
else in space that they
don't get along with.
I just hate it.
Jess was in Orlando when this all began.
And I don't know if she wants to jump in.
But Lauren was rude to Cheryl and Jamie.
And where did Lauren say she
couldn't read?
She said it on the Talking
Elite Fitness podcast.
She said it on the podcast
with Caitlin and Mesa that
she misread her email,
thought she had enhanced
access when she didn't.
that's what everything got
diverted to and not the
original issue um does
anyone actually watch that
show I guess besides you I
tried out of boredom and
just couldn't do it so I
don't I don't know what
their numbers are um I try
to give everybody a chance
I think everybody deserves a voice
If you listen to my first ten shows,
they are probably god-awful.
But I didn't have any viewers back then.
I had like ten people watching back then.
So I got to experience all
of this stuff organically
in a slow pace where I
could get better at what I
did before people actually saw me.
They jumped on to Be Friendly Fitness,
which is great for them,
but you're going to have
more eyes on you right off the bat.
And you've got to get better pretty fast.
So I've been giving them,
I don't listen to every episode.
I listen to them
periodically because if they get better,
maybe they bring something
to the table that I'm
missing with other podcasts.
CrossFit Mesa said,
CrossFitters don't do one rep maxes.
I'm out.
they say things that I don't
necessarily agree with, but that's okay.
It's okay to not agree with things.
I'm just trying to give them
the benefit of the doubt as
they're growing and maybe getting better.
But,
but when you're coming at me or that
you're, you're missing the original point,
I don't, I had to defend my people.
so has bee friendly grown or
lost followers I'm a I I I
don't really track the
numbers when I first
started doing podcasts this
podcast I was so obsessed
with the numbers now I just
I I don't even pay attention to them um
Kate solid Mesa gives me a fight,
know it all.
And then says, I program, I know this.
I wish they would.
I wish they would give more
facts behind their opinions,
but they're entitled to their opinion.
I just wish it had more fact
based behind it.
And we'll see.
I give them credit,
the live chat while they're on,
as people just, they're hating on them.
Again, I'm trying to give them a chance.
I've gone back and listened
to probably two-thirds of their stuff.
Not everything I like, but...
is out there,
but I try to listen to it to
get differing perspectives,
differing opinions, um,
that just make my overall
take on things more
complete and gives me
fodder for like how I would
argue that point, things like that.
So that's what I,
that's why I listened to different stuff.
Jake at the Bay show
question out of an average
hour of live media content.
How many minutes are
actually dedicated to the
actual CrossFit and
affiliate away from
political nonsense and games chat?
Probably not enough, but when you do this,
When you do this daily,
you have to come up with
things that peak an
interest in people in the
chat to bring back with more comments.
That's what this show is.
This is a hangout show.
I'm a moderator of a hangout
where I just bring up
topics and we just banter back and forth.
And that's how I kind of view this show.
Um, there we go.
Uh, draw your dagger.
I took like a six to nine
month break from all things.
CrossFit media coming back
into has been interesting.
Yeah.
You took a weird six to nine months off,
probably the craziest six
to nine months in my
history of doing content.
Uh, uh,
Jamie and Carolyn are great
on Sunday shows.
They are.
They're just great overall.
They're great human beings.
I think I'm in that, Jake.
I think we probably do more
games talk than anything else.
But like I led the show off
with the new marketing
campaign and how CrossFit
was great at communicating that,
delivering assets.
But I'm probably way more
games talk than I am
affiliate talk for sure.
I agree.
Everyone should get out of
their echo chambers.
And it makes me uncomfortable, probably.
It does make me
uncomfortable to go listen
to other people's with
different opinions.
But they have the right to
convince me otherwise of my opinion.
This is why people talk
about what people talk
about while doing their
back squat sets at the
beginning of a class.
I think that's dead on Jenny that on.
think that that's what I'm
trying to do here this is a
hangout show when when
you're sitting around the
rig and you're you're doing
your lifts and you're
talking to your buddies
that's what I'm trying to
accomplish with this show
it's just really wild
trying to come up with uh
topics every day uh to do that so
I miss seeing cat.
It says train all of, I do too.
But cat's got bigger things
in our life going on right now.
Yeah.
And I'll let her tell those stories.
Uh,
but she's got a lot going on and she
doesn't, she doesn't,
she's not out off of our
team by any stretch.
Uh, when she's ready to come back,
she'll come back.
Um,
but she's got bigger things in her life
right now that she has to
take care of rather than
talk on a microphone.
Uh, David Johnson.
I spend most of my time
trash talking and trying to
get people to do some sort
of nonsense with me.
Yeah.
Jake, we all have a place in space.
I was asking for research purposes.
I think what happens is that
the numbers impact what we do.
And it's really hard to stay
true to what you want to be
when you see the numbers go
up when you talk about different things.
It's really, really hard.
That's why I try to ignore the numbers.
The numbers have just been
insane over the last month
and a half for me since
Hiller put out that video.
Like we have gone up nearly
six hundred subscribers.
We have doubled watch time.
It's just been a crazy, crazy six weeks.
And I'm just trying to hone
in on what is important to me.
So and I saw Rosie say or
just say that she made a comment that.
about what we talked about in Orlando.
I did feel like though,
like we weren't good enough
to be out there,
but everyone in media
deserves to have access.
We are all trying to do the same job,
right?
All right.
This is when I'm warming up kind of show.
There you go, Jay Birch.
I miss Kat's dating show.
I do too.
I thought it was great.
I thought she did a great job with that,
but now she's not dating.
So I don't know where she goes with that.
So we'll see where she goes
with that anyway.
There's a mud chucking
element to those box ladies.
It comes both ways,
but the vibe was sort of
set by their first episode.
I don't disagree.
And like I said, I just,
I try to watch every, because again,
thank God nobody's
listening to my first ten episodes.
And I only had like my mom
listening and Amy's dad listening.
We were terrible.
We were terrible in our
first ten episodes.
But we did it in silence
because nobody was watching.
And it allowed us to get
better before people saw us.
Kipping it real,
I like their podcast
because it's fun to get angry and argue.
I don't mind them.
I just disagree with everything they say.
Well,
and it gives you fodder for your channel.
Very true.
My profession is a coach,
and my priority is just that.
I get to host a show where I
get to speak to people about affiliates.
It's an insane opportunity.
Many are bored, but that's okay.
Right,
and I love that you stay true to that.
I love that you stay true to that.
So many people are tempted by other stuff.
Trained Olive,
we need Kat's relationship show next.
There you go.
have to say lauren khalil
does some seller interviews
quite often sometimes
journalists develop
slightly nasty elbows
here's my thing uh-huh and
that is that lauren and I
were at morning chalk up at
the same time lauren and I
were both treated very
poorly while we were at the
morning chalk up at that
moment we became very good friends
What's been disappointing to
me is as she got more
popular and then got with
Talking Elite Fitness,
then she started doing the
same types of things that
we were complaining about
at Morning Chalk Up.
That's why it probably hits
me harder than others
because we had this common misery and
that we bonded over.
And then as she got better,
she kind of forgot about
having to clear that hurdle herself.
And that's, what's been disappointing.
And I told her that I've
told her all of this in a
DM directly to her.
I'm missing something here.
What are your thoughts on
media people covering
athletes that they didn't
get credentials for?
Yeah, I need them.
I need more information
covering them inside the
ropes or covering them outside the ropes.
I will say Lauren was
straight hustling on the
street corner literally she
was every time I walked
past her she was interviewing somebody.
And she was completely
outside the venue in
between the two buildings
just nailing interview after interview.
Scott, I didn't know you were at MCU.
It was such a short amount of time,
Jonathan, that most people don't.
I've shown clips from it
from my time there.
Kat and I were both there.
We made an offer to LaFranco
to take over their...
uh bottom line show and
their youtube channel and
that's why uh and then I
don't know it I've talked
about it a lot of times it
just didn't go well uh and
then I made it to the games
that year with them they
lost a bunch of my
interviews and then I just
quit and started my own company
Wow.
Okay, I'm gonna have to skip ahead anyway.
So that's that.
The other thing is,
I got a lot of comments
about talking about spread
getting screwed yesterday.
And that
It's an invitational,
and they can invite whoever they want.
I said yesterday it was an invitational,
and Tier could invite whoever they want.
But again,
this is a talk show where we
just hang out, shoot the shit.
And so I just presented the
idea that James actually
has a better resume than
the other members of that team.
He has a better resume than...
than hopper pepper and
madaris right now in the
last two years better
finishes more wins it's
insane but I know that tier
can invite whoever they
want I get that fact but it
doesn't make for a good talk show
Isn't this similar to Rogue, though?
They can invite who they want.
I get that.
I totally get it.
I get they can do that.
But that does not make for
good talk show material.
If I'm stacking up resumes right now,
James is in the lead of the
people in the North American region.
That's all I'm saying.
But I get that they can
invite whoever they want.
If they don't want James on the team,
they don't have to invite him.
That is their prerogative.
It is their event.
It is their show.
I get all that.
But I'm just saying, stacking resumes,
James should have been the
number one pick.
So...
It's more than Pat.
James has a better resume
than Hopper and Pepper.
James has finished higher
than Dallin Pepper in the last two games,
and he won Wadapalooza.
And he took second at WFP,
if you want to count that.
team north america is going
to get spanked I'm not
happy about it I don't even
think we have the final for
team north america because
I'm I don't think alex is
going to compete she needs
to rest up that leg and get
it healed for the final
tour stop of wfp and they
want her ready for next season
so uh there's that I think
alex is going to withdraw
from this event alexis if
her back is healed will
probably do it but I think
alex will and maybe alexis
too you might be right
cross fat all right
I did want to talk about
Dave's Week in Review real quick.
I thought there were a couple good points.
Someone brought up that the
Masters got no promotion at
the elite CrossFit Games,
and I thought that that was
a big miss on CrossFit's part.
You have plenty of airtime.
You have millions of viewers.
It would have been really a
cool synergy to have the
age group and adaptive
athletes featured in some
kind of way in promoting
their upcoming events.
I think that was a big miss.
If I'm going to give them
all the kudos for the other
stuff the media team has been doing,
that has been a huge miss.
Huge miss.
Um...
I thought it was interesting
that he saw the Wells
sisters at the airport and
Will Morad and then just
kind of glossed over it.
Said he saw Sidney and
Brooke and Will at the
airport and then glossed
right over that and kept moving.
I thought that was an interesting mention.
Um, he did say the thirty,
the thirty size field was
pretty right on.
Don't write it in the book yet,
but probably going to be here to stay.
Um,
I will tell you that the programming of
the Masters CrossFit Games,
I went into a meeting
yesterday for an hour and
I came out and Carolyn and Jamie,
there were forty eight
messages on my phone back
and forth about their
thoughts on what's been
released for the master's
programming and how crazy that is.
I don't know.
I don't know if.
these that programming for
the masters games is going
to find the fittest.
I think if they look at it as their event,
they want to program it
like they would like.
And I don't think that they
are programming it to find
the fittest on earth.
And that there are people
that take this very
seriously and want to win.
The two women on my show on Sunday night,
don't want to just show up.
They're there to win.
And it means a lot to them.
Masters programming is all
fairly quick workouts in a
similar time domain.
That is right.
That is right.
Chris,
we talked about this briefly that I
don't know anything about
that at this point.
I'm going to look into it a
little bit more.
Our eMasters programming, I agree, Megan.
Yes, it is.
There are people there that want to win.
There are people there that
are ultra competitive,
and they deserve to get
that chance as the best in the world.
There are also people there
that are happy to be there.
We shouldn't be programming
for the people happy to be there.
Just like everything else in CrossFit,
you program for the best
and then you scale for the rest.
This should be to find the
fittest on earth in each age group.
Shanna,
some Masters athletes work just as
hard as the elites.
Amen, sister.
Age group CrossFit Games
should have its own social.
I think it's bizarre that
all of the events are
released on Legends and not
on the CrossFit Games site.
Yes, you let somebody else take over,
but it doesn't mean that
it's not a part of the CrossFit Games.
And the further we're
getting away from that split,
the more it appears that HQ
is looking at that as no
longer part of the games.
It is the age group CrossFit games.
It is just as elite as the
elite for each age group
that they represent.
Age group CrossFit games
should have its own IG page.
Legends trying to do both of
their comps on the page is confusing.
I've heard that too.
There's,
there were workouts out there for
the qualifier and workouts
out there for the games.
It's an, it's, it is very, very confused,
confusing.
We're going to get into a lot more detail,
Shanna, about the programming.
I will tell you that my
co-hosts believe that no
woman being involved in the
programming is a big miss
and that these are written
for men and they are scaled
improperly for the women.
They also believe that the
programming at the higher levels,
the sixty, sixty five,
seventy plus are very,
very skewed in a bad and poor direction.
And so they would like to
see more done there and
probably more will be
changed by the time we get there.
But that's.
That's a little bit weird as well.
Shanna,
I offered to test for them this year.
They declined.
Very obvious no proper testing was done.
Programming gets diluted due
to the number of athletes,
but if you criticize it,
you're being negative and
not grateful for the opportunity.
Also,
I didn't know this was a Bob and Joe
games.
How about the portion of the
Sunday show is them
tweaking the workouts to
what they think they should be?
I will bring that up to them,
but I don't want to put
them in that position
knowing they have to
compete in a week after
Sunday at the games that
they just criticized.
I hope that makes sense.
They will be adding a
hundred meters to the runs.
Again, I am not a programming expert.
I leave it up to the women I
hang out with.
They seem to know much more than I do.
But yeah.
Well, anyway.
Anyway.
have lots to talk about the
rest of the week I we were
just getting started on the
comment section uh we're
just getting started on all
the other stuff um I wrote
a note that I don't even
understand from dave's week
in review so I'll have to
go check that out but guys
I got to get back to work
you guys need to get back
to work as well so with that
Come on knuckleheads, get back to work.
I will see you all tomorrow
with Corey for lunch with the Clydesdale.
Bye guys.