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Imagine you're cultivating a garden. At
first, you're not sure what to expect.
You're planting seeds in
fresh soil, watering them,
and giving them all the TLC.
The conditions aren't always ideal.
Sometimes the weather's too hot,
sometimes it rains a little too much,
but you and the plants keep going.
You believe that with the
right care and patience,
something beautiful will bloom
from fresh veggies to new leaves.
Witnessing their growth
is rewarding to you.
This is the spirit that Taylor
embraces from starting as an auto shop
mechanic to becoming a test
engineer and, eventually,
mechanical engineering
technician coach at Cummins.
She's learned how to flourish in any
environment and help those around her do
the same. I'm Kim.
And I'm Taylor.
Taylor, your journey is all about
growth, not just professionally,
but also personally.
Can you share more about how you've
cultivated this resilience and found your
niche at Cummins?
Well, it all started with me trying
to figure out what I wanted to do.
So I was like, well, I need a job
at least to start going to school.
So my friend got me in at an
oil change place and I was like,
but I don't know how to do that. I
dunno, I can't change a brake light bulb.
So he's like, it's fine, we'll
teach you. And so I was like, okay,
if you say so. And I
started working there.
I started learning about cars and then I
surprisingly really ended up liking it.
So then I started taking the automotive
classes at school and by the time that I
finished my associate's degree, I was
store manager at the oil change chain.
And then at that point I was just
kind of like, I need more than this.
And so I decided a lot of my
mentors in school had talked about a
program at Southern Illinois
University for automotive,
and I decided that was the move for
me. So I went to go get my bachelor's.
So after your bachelor's, what
then brought you to Cummins?
Well, it was peak COVID at the time,
so I was applying left and trying to
find a place to fit in and I'd received a
couple of offers, but the offer from
Cummins sounded really intriguing to me.
A lot more hands-on role as far as test
engineering is concerned and I was like,
I don't know what that is.
Actually, maybe I should back up.
How did you even know about Cummins?
Did you know about it or
was it just like, well,
I don't know what this
place is, but I'll apply?
Yeah, knowing that Cummins is one of
the biggest diesel engine manufacturers,
I was like, that sounds
like a cool place to work.
And so having some options to choose from,
the role of test engineers sounded the
most hands-on and the most interesting to
me.
Very cool. So when you first started,
tell me about your experience at Cummins.
I had to learn how to be a test engineer.
Being a lot more mechanically
and automotive inclined,
it was a different atmosphere
than I was used to.
Joining the world of engineering
surrounded by mostly mechanical engineers,
I was like, I don't think I belong
here. Did they hire me by accident?
Well, how did those
feelings evolve over time?
I'm sure that's not
how you felt long-term.
Correct. So basically after a while,
I'm kind of doing my thing and learning
the role and learning how we engineer
and how we test engines
here. And I'm like, wow.
I think a lot of my knowledge that I
have on how engines work and the basics
have been actually
really beneficial to me.
More so than your standard mechanical
engineer thinking that they have a
lot more of the theory
stuff. And I was like,
I've seen this before in real life.
Because theoretically
things can go one way,
but having that hands-on experience at
the oil change place gave you that strong
foundation,
that hands-on experience that kind of
made you a little bit more experienced in
that field, would you say?
Yeah,
I would say the combination of the
experience that I had in the shop before,
but also I have a Jeep
that I build and off road.
Very cool.
So a lot of experience working on
my own car and modifying it and
jacking it up, big
tires, all of the things.
Alright. So going back to feeling
like maybe you didn't belong,
there was a lot of uncertainty. You
felt like I might've made a mistake,
you were able to get
out of that situation.
But is there some advice that you would
give someone who feels like they're in
the wrong place in their career?
First of all, I think the feelings of,
I don't know if I'm supposed to be here,
really started changing when I was able
to offer my unique perspective to my
teammates. And then they were like, oh,
she knows more about this
stuff than we do. Aha moment.
So seeing that I was able to share
something and bring value to the team,
I think really helped kind of flip my
view and make me feel a little bit less
like an impostor. And then it
actually worked out really well,
which kind of lends into diversity and
things like that with all of people's
different backgrounds.
They would help me with the engineering
things and teach me thermal dynamic type
stuff, and I'm just like,
here's what a piston does.
It was an exchange,
a meeting of the minds where you were
able to exchange valuable information to
behoove your work together.
Right, right.
Very cool.
So I guess back to your question is the
second thing outside of finding ways
that your differences can bring
value is finding a mentor.
I've had a mentor for almost
as long as I've worked here,
which has been a really cool opportunity
that I've had in order to connect with
people in other roles, other
women in position of leadership.
And that's really helped
me throughout my journey,
working in the shop and
getting my footing there.
There was a lot of obstacles to
overcome being the woman in the shop,
the girl stereotypically, the
guys must know more than me.
Even when I was the manager and
I had other girls working for me,
we would get a lot of things
from customers talking about,
I don't want you on my car. I'm like,
okay, you can have one of the boys,
that's fine. But I trained them.
Right. So whatever you get, I've helped.
Yeah, I've helped make it happen. So
I make it sound easy, but it wasn't.
You got to get some really
tough skin to deal with that.
So the amount of time that it took me
to kind of overcome and be comfortable
with the fact that not everyone's going
to trust me and that's their problem,
it's not mine. Coming to Cummins,
I was a little worried. I was like,
am I going to have to start this all
over again with a different audience and
not externally customer facing,
but now I've got coworkers and engineering
is also a really male dominated
field. So I was like,
how is this going to go?
But I was very pleasantly surprised.
We had a lot of diversity on our team,
other women, people from other countries.
So I got to learn a lot about people
from other origins and learn about their
cultures and things like
that, which is super cool.
But I would say that just my entire time
being able to connect with other women,
like I said, in leadership
positions, other female engineers.
We have female technicians
too, which is super cool.
I have two right now that
work on my team, so shout out.
But in general,
I would say that it's been a very pleasant
surprise that I don't face really any
of our adversity here at
Cummins because I'm a girl.
It's really amazing to know that you came
from having to deal with being a woman
in a male dominated field.
Coming into this perspective with
Cummins thinking you had to rebuild your
entire reputation and your repertoire
and knowing that that wasn't the case at
all, everyone was really welcoming,
everyone was approachable,
and you felt like you were in a space
where you could be your best and continue
to thrive.
Absolutely. And even being
a manager, it's like,
are the technicians that report to me,
are they going to think that I'm
lesser because I'm not a man? No.
The only thing that they're going to think
lesser of me is if I'm a bad manager.
And that's like your skillset and what
you are able to bring to the table as
opposed to, are you a male? Are you a
female? Or whatever. That doesn't matter.
Right.
Let's talk about Cummins impact.
What's one thing that Cummins
does that fills you with pride?
I'm really a huge fan of just the
history, the roots of the company.
I really enjoy working for a company
that is so deeply rooted in just American
history. We're talking first
diesel engine in a vehicle.
I know you had Lori on. That was
super cool. I love listening to her.
I also really enjoy that we
do a lot for the community.
Some of my favorites are
our Earth Day EEEC events.
And what are EEEC events
for those listeners who are
not a part of the Cummins
ecosystem?
So EEEC is Every Employee Every Community.
Cummins really and empowers its employees
to contribute to the communities in
which we live and work.
So one of the things that we do at the
tech center is a tree giveaway in April.
So I like to help hand
out trees to everybody.
You get a free tree sapling and
you can plant it wherever you want
and it's good for the environment.
And you're a proud plant parent at home.
So I'm sure you love being able to see
the others that you give way get nurtured
and grow as well.
Absolutely.
Speaking of planting, you've got
some other interesting hobbies.
Tell me about how those tie
into your work at Cummins.
I'm obviously really into plants.
I have a vegetable garden.
I have my houseplant collection
that tends to get neglected in the
summertime when I'm outside with my
vegetables and my bees. I do keep bees.
At least I'm trying my best to,
it seems like all they ever
want to do is try to die on me,
so I have to be there to support them.
And all of these kind of go
with the theme of environment,
greenery, sustainability, and just a
healthier planet, more prosperous world.
Was that intentional that all of your
hobbies tie into some of what Cummins
focuses on?
I don't think so. I think those are
just the things that I really love.
And so I try to seek out the
things that I love in my work too.
So getting to be a part of our
environmental volunteer opportunities.
There's been a couple, so I try to
jump on those when I can. Currently,
I'm trying to see if maybe we can get
a pollinator garden going at the tech
center. We'll see.
In my apartment complex, they have garden
beds and you can run a space there.
I was too late to jump on board to
do one. I was also afraid to commit.
But if I were to start one, what
is something you would recommend?
A good mix.
So I would say you want to bring some
flowers that are going to bring the
pollinators in and preferably some
that are going to be pest resistant.
Keep the bag bugs away. So
I like to use marigolds.
Marigolds are good.
Snapdragons are also good,
if marigolds are kind
of outplayed for you.
Why would you assume that? Okay. But
we love all the recommendations. Okay,
continue.
Yeah. And then your vegetables,
whatever's your style for that.
I love chilies and basil. I love Thai
basil specifically. I love to make,
I just love the way they smell.
I love the way they taste.
I like infusing them in
mocktails. I don't know.
You can't go wrong with those two things.
Yeah. Well, I love my herbs too.
I built a nice little herb pole on my
back porch so I can just go out there and
pick things and bring
'em into the kitchen.
Nice.
But yeah,
herbs are always good and most of them
actually also are pretty good pest
deterrence too.
Good to know. Earlier you mentioned
your team. Tell me more about your team,
because what I think is so fascinating
is you came into this wondering like,
oh my gosh, are they going to like me?
Am I going to bring value to the team?
And then they were all hyping you
up. Like, Taylor, you're amazing.
We would love to work for you. So
tell me more about that dynamic.
I would say in my past pre-Cummins,
I learned a lot about how
to not be a good manager.
That speaks volume, but
we'll leave it there.
So with that being said, you can
look at things in different lights.
So you can either just say, this is
terrible, I hate this, I'm miserable,
my manager's awful. All of the things.
I kind of chose to look at it through
the lens of what can I learn from this?
How can I make sure that
I'm not like that person?
How can I be a leader that
people want to follow?
And that's been a really
important theme for me.
Just because you're a leader doesn't
mean you're also not a human.
I put myself on the same level as my
team. I tell them, Hey, I'm not perfect.
They know that.
They know that I'm not
above being called out.
Let me know if I've done
something that you don't like.
And I'm also not afraid to
admit my mistakes. And I
think that's really the key:
leveling with people and
saying, Hey, oops, I'm sorry.
We're all human. And it
makes you more approachable.
That level of communication,
I feel like that opens the lines for
more communication to give that feedback
real time.
Yeah, I definitely like
to lead from the group.
I don't like to lead from the back or
the front or whatever it is. I mean,
if I could be in the test
halls with them, I would.
Because you miss it.
You get FOMO, don't you?
I do miss it. Yeah.
Talk to me more about that test.
Can you paint a picture of
what that actually looks like?
The tech center is one of the
very coolest places to work.
I love working at the tech
center. It is so cool.
We get to see all the super
top-secret new product testing,
so it makes us feel
really special. But yeah,
new engine platforms that are coming
out, obviously we need to test them,
make sure that they're going to be good
before we get 'em in the hands of our
customers. There's a lot of really cool
stuff that goes into testing. I mean,
we got an engine hooked up to
a dyno in a room that is...
A dyno?
Yeah.
What is that?
Basically it is what spins
the engine to get it going.
And it measures a lot of things for us
like torque and speed, things like that.
Gotcha.
Yeah. So it's hooked up
and it's in this room.
We have a lot, so we have a lot
of test cells at the deck center.
We have some special ones for
altitude testing, cold cell testing.
So we also have a tilt stand test cell
so that we can mount the engine at
different angles to make sure that
things like construction equipment,
we want to make sure that it's not going
to be losing oil pressure and things
like that if it gets too off tilt.
So there's a lot of work that goes into
getting an engine together before it's
out on the road.
But that lends into the durability and
reliability of it because in the most
extreme climate or conditions, they've
already been tested against that.
Right, right.
And then we have our field test group
that they take the engines out into what I
say, the real world,
but we try to mimic that as close as
we can in the tech center within four
walls. We go on a lot of long drives
without ever leaving the building.
I like the way you put that.
And so there's a lot of
different places to test
products. How many people are
on your team helping to do this?
So my team specifically, I have 25.
Whoa.
And my department is the
emissions technology test.
So we do all of the emission
certification testing.
We also make sure that the OBD system
is working the way that it should
detecting...
OBD, you've lost me. What are we
doing? What are we talking about?
The onboard diagnostics. So
basically, your check engine light.
Gotcha.
A part of emission standards is we have
to make sure that the check engine light
comes on. That's something people don't
really know about that they're like, oh,
I just have this annoying
light on my dash.
That's exactly how I view it. I am like,
oh great, that's going to cost money.
I see dollar signs when I
see my check engine light.
But we're required to make sure that
that is telling people that there's
something wrong so they can get it
fixed and not be out on the road and
potentially putting out more
emissions than they should be.
So we have to make sure that works.
Right.
How do you go about mentoring and guiding
and leading with 25 people on your
team?
It definitely takes some
skill. It takes really my team.
I'm not going to sit here and
pretend that I do all of it myself.
I have a very talented team.
I have some trades associates
that essentially are kind of
the in-between between me
and the rest of my team.
Their sole function is support.
So they do a lot of the teaching
and guiding of the team.
We kind of all work together to train
our new people. So being on night shift,
we have this interesting circumstance
where we don't have a lot of guidance,
leadership, things like that. It is us.
So that creates a lot more of a
tighter knit group, a lot of teamwork,
a lot more. We rely on each other to
problem solve and get through issues,
things like that. So.
You've cultivated your own community?
I certainly try.
It sounds so fun. I'd love
to join you one evening,
but it is way past my bedtime.
I can't even lie. Taylor,
I've had so much fun talking to you today.
I know we've had a prior conversation
where I spoke about my experience coming
from social media in sports marketing,
and coming from my experience of being a
woman in a male dominated field where I
was always asked, oh, who's plus one
are you? When I'm like, no, no, no.
It is me. I will be the one talking
to the athletes. Thank you so much.
Yas queen.
But it,
it's been good to hear your perspective
and see others' experience of going
through something like that. I
also love that you become a leader.
Not only do you get the mentorship
and the female leaders around you,
you are also one yourself.
Thank you again for taking
time to come on the podcast.
,-Absolutely. It's been a pleasure.
So what's the big idea for this episode?
Just like the greenery that grows
through the cracks of the concrete,
resilience isn't just about
getting through the hard stuff.
It's also about taking your unique
experiences and making it work for you.
Taylor reminded us that
no matter where you are,
your real-life experience can set
you apart. And at the end of the day,
if you ever feel out of place,
just remember that your differences
could be your biggest strengths.
And when you put in the work and
you see the impact of your efforts,
it's like the satisfaction
of a summer harvest.
You get to see all the
good that it's creating.
Power Onward.
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