Host Jim covers breaking news across safety, health, and current events. Top stories include Trump's trade summit with China's Xi Jinping, the U.S. potentially renaming the Iran conflict "Operation Sledgehammer," and the South Carolina Supreme Court overturning Alex Murdaugh's double murder conviction and ordering a retrial.
The main focus is a Hantavirus outbreak aboard the cruise ship MV Hondias, with three deaths and cases monitored in nearly two dozen countries. Jim warns that despite expert reassurances, a single school case could trigger union-invoked OSHA General Duty Clause actions and force widespread school closures — and questions whether the CDC is prepared to manage another outbreak after COVID.
On labor: the DOL proposed expanding employer fertility benefits; enforced action against a company for illegally favoring foreign workers; and flagged six states (including NY and NJ) for over $2.6 billion in improper unemployment payments.
Finally, the Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse received new attention via a federal criminal indictment alleging a cover-up over jury-rigged backup fuel pumps. Jim's takeaway: never improvise critical safety systems.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hi, this is Jim from Satuers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hello, hello, hello.
[SPEAKER_02]: Welcome to Safety Words, one say May 13th, 2026.
[SPEAKER_02]: Program like 546 now.
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't believe it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Jay Allen I were just talking about this yesterday can't believe this I don't know uh I'm the Jay Allen show he got up to five seven hundred seventy seven the magic number now uh he does the radar safety show and some other stuff so running a radio station
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, several, I've got to be several thousand programs on the radar safety show.
[SPEAKER_02]: They originally started out as a rant, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the, no, radar safety show, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, you kind of love all these things that just start to pop up on the computer screen.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, with the friend's Scott Keybridge, we're going to revisit some of that later on.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I just wanted to talk about the... Now, this is going to be a repeat for some of you people who are heard the audio cast last night.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, the podcast.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we're going to repeat some stuff and we're going to not repeat some stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: Alright, so here we go, you know, let's start right off the bat.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's feature story news and get that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Go in and then we'll have everything else all set up here.
[SPEAKER_07]: U.S. President Donald Trump has arrived in Beijing for talks with Chinese President Xi Jinping as the two leaders looked to ease months of tense-trade relations.
[SPEAKER_07]: A tear of truth is expected to be extended following discussions this week, F.S.N.S.
[SPEAKER_07]: Nick Harper reports from Washington.
[SPEAKER_03]: Donald Trump will be hoping for some big wins over the course of the next 36 hours, deal making on trade, pushing China to buy more US energy and agricultural products, and trying to get China to release more of its rare earth minerals.
[SPEAKER_03]: But Trump arrives in Beijing, bogged down by a war in Iran, a war that is still not over, and a war that he might need China's influence over Iran to help end.
[SPEAKER_03]: He does at least come with some leverage, advanced semiconductors from companies like Nvidia, the US has placed some export curves on those that China is hoping the US will ease.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm Nick Harper and Washington.
[SPEAKER_07]: The US military is considering officially renaming the war with Iran, Operation Sledgehammer.
[SPEAKER_07]: According to reporting by NBC News, its sites U.S. officials who say the name change could come if the current ceasefire collapses and President Donald Trump decides to start major combat operations again.
[SPEAKER_07]: FSM's Kate Fisher reports.
[SPEAKER_06]: Reports of this potential name change suggest that the Trump administration is seriously considering resuming its military action against Iran.
[SPEAKER_06]: It would also help the President to argue that the 60-day time limit on combat operations without congressional approval has restarted.
[SPEAKER_06]: Epic Fury's offensive was paused after 40 days of fighting.
[SPEAKER_06]: At the time, the administration informed Congress that hostilities with Iran had terminated but the Pentagon has continued to describe the conflict as Operation Epic Fury.
[SPEAKER_07]: South Carolina's top court has overturned Alex Murdoch's double murder conviction.
[SPEAKER_07]: The disgraced lawyer was convicted in 2023 of murdering his wife Maggie in their 22-year-old son Paul, in a case that captivated the nation.
[SPEAKER_07]: In a unanimous opinion, the South Carolina justices said Murdoch was denied his right to a fair trial because a county court clerk had influenced jurors.
[SPEAKER_07]: The accused were back at hills of placing her fingers on the scales of justice after jurors testified that she suggested they not trust Murdoch's testimony.
[SPEAKER_07]: State prosecutors had tried to argue that there was no evidence the comments changed the outcome of the trial.
[SPEAKER_07]: The top court has ordered a retrial and Murdoch will remain in jail until that happens.
[SPEAKER_07]: After pleading guilty to embezzling millions of dollars from his law firm, he maintains his innocence in the deaths of his wife and son.
[SPEAKER_07]: From Burrow's Worldwide, this is FSN.
[SPEAKER_04]: With FSN spotlight, I'm Simon Marks.
[SPEAKER_04]: If you like me, members of your family may have asked you whether they should be worried about Hentavaris, the ND's strain of which has already killed several people after an outbreak aboard the cruise ship the MV Hondias off the coast of Cape Verdi.
[SPEAKER_04]: The World Health Organization says we are not witnessing the beginning of a new COVID-style pandemic, even as people are being monitored for symptoms in almost two dozen separate countries.
[SPEAKER_04]: Professor Mark Fielder, a medical microbiologist at Kingston University in the UK, says the
[SPEAKER_00]: asymptomatic patients are not infectious very different to COVID in that regard.
[SPEAKER_00]: And when they are isolation at home, they are within their full walls at home.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you can't catch this virus just by passing it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Although the Andy's virus does pass from human to human, it does so in a very ineffective manner.
[SPEAKER_00]: So you have to be in very close contact for prolonged periods of time for the
[SPEAKER_04]: Despite concerns about passengers leaving hospital isolation early, he says strict monitoring will be in place.
[SPEAKER_04]: Investigators are still working to identify how passengers aboard the Hondias contracted the virus, with one theory now pointing to a bird watching excursion near a waste site before the crew is departed.
[SPEAKER_04]: With FSN spotlight, I'm Simon Marx.
[SPEAKER_07]: And a recap of today's headlines.
[SPEAKER_07]: U.S. President Donald Trump is in Beijing for a high-stakes summit with Chinese President Xi Jinping, as the leaders look to ease months of tense relations.
[SPEAKER_07]: The U.S. military is considering officially renaming the war with Iran-operation sludge hammer, according to NBC News.
[SPEAKER_07]: South Carolina's top court has overturned Alex Murdoch's double murder conviction in the deaths of his wife and son.
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you Tony Waterman, we're going to head on over to Department of Labor News here for today and let's do a share of screen for your folks on the video cast.
[SPEAKER_02]: So here we go, May 10th.
[SPEAKER_02]: This actually caused a little bit of controversy here on with some of the people on social media and I posted this.
[SPEAKER_02]: the U.S. Department of Labor, Health and Human Services and Treasury, and now, some proposed rule that we create a new category of limited-accepted benefits, the further expand the ability of employers to offer meaningful fertility benefits to their employees.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, what they're talking about is IVF treatments at this phase at this time with that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, there I Catholic priest had a comment on three extensively on this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, and I said, look, I just have worked on the news.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know, you know, I'll agree or disagree.
[SPEAKER_02]: But a lot of the fertility treatments are against Catholic teaching.
[SPEAKER_02]: So people kind of said, I'm just avoiding things here.
[SPEAKER_02]: But check your, again, check with your benefits for that, your employer, and to see if you're covered by that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Here we have from U.S. Department of Labor just as an answer in force for nations against a company for alleged immigration nationality act violations.
[SPEAKER_02]: The U.S. Department of Labor today announced an enforcement actually against cold dera and corporate are following the allegation that it violated, let me share this.
[SPEAKER_02]: The Immigration Nationality Act by unlawfully discriminating against hiring American workers in favor of foreign labor.
[SPEAKER_02]: Protecting the integrity of our immigration labor systems requires employers to follow the law and provide American workers of fair opportunity to compete for jobs,
[SPEAKER_02]: This action reflects this administration's commitment to holding bad actors accountable when they attempt to circumvent those protections.
[SPEAKER_02]: As part of the enforcement action, the Department's Employment and Training Administration is off its alarm and labor certification as the spent processing of all permanent labor certification application filed on behalf of the company for 180 days.
[SPEAKER_02]: The perm program allows employers to sponsor workers for permanent residence status, only after completing recruitment of U.S. workers.
[SPEAKER_02]: So you have to go and exhaust the supply of U.S. workers before you go and you get foreign workers.
[SPEAKER_02]: There is potentially potential or next century in the enforcement action, depending the results.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now I remember we covered a lot of stories like this.
[SPEAKER_02]: last year, even one story where they had everybody under, I guess, was the same act.
[SPEAKER_02]: Doing menial labor, we're doing labor at foreign rates.
[SPEAKER_02]: So for example, you would hire someone to do a job, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: And then you would pay them the same amount of money that you're paying in their country wherever they came from.
[SPEAKER_02]: which was significantly less.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then of course, charging American rates.
[SPEAKER_02]: Tell me, you know, no, they were not health and safety people, but they could have been out of the safety people because that's kind of stuff that happens in the field.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm, you know, I'm, yes, I mean, negative.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I am.
[SPEAKER_02]: Guess what?
[SPEAKER_02]: I had an employer sending to another state and then bill me out at New Jersey rates and want to pay me like I was in the other state.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah, or pay me New Jersey rates, and then send me to a state where they were charging that states rates, which are significantly higher than New Jersey rates, and you know, that sort of thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: was a long-term project, two years.
[SPEAKER_02]: The US Department of Labor at its office and inspector general has announced the partnership in furthering some present Donald J. Trump's executive order establishing the task force to eliminate fraud.
[SPEAKER_02]: Under the leadership of Vice-Friends and JD Vance, the department and the OIG, we'll work together to safeguard American taxpayers and address widespread fraud and performance concerns related to the unemployment insurance programs administered across the country.
[SPEAKER_02]: unemployment insurance systems nationwide face significant financial performance failures.
[SPEAKER_02]: For too long, these programs have gone un-challenged.
[SPEAKER_02]: That ends now, said acting Secretary of the Laboracy is underling.
[SPEAKER_02]: The Department of Labor is working alongside OIG agents to investigate potential fraud and misuse.
[SPEAKER_02]: Our mission is clear, restore accountability to safeguard workers and tax payers.
[SPEAKER_02]: So let's go down, uh, some of the most problematic state unemployment insurance programs include California, Illinois, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York, and Pennsylvania.
[SPEAKER_02]: These six states come combined or responsible for paying out $19 billion dollars.
[SPEAKER_02]: And only for unemployment and unemployment insurance benefits, fiscal year 2025, allowing these six states is more than $2.6 billion in improper benefits, including over $1.2 billion in fraudulent payments.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, what does that come out to?
[SPEAKER_02]: 19 billion, let's multiply it by five, 1.2 billion, let's multiply it.
[SPEAKER_02]: fraudulent payments, that seems a little bit load to me, okay, we already talked about that with that, okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, so we have going on here.
[SPEAKER_02]: U.S. Department of Education, U.S. Department of Labor, NASA, historic expansion of W-O-I-A combined state plans, as workforce innovation, not particularly act state plans or dress workforce challenges and broader needs compared to nine states.
[SPEAKER_02]: So 21 have states have now submitted combined workforce innovation, not for two of the act state plans to address workforce challenges and employer needs compared to trust nine states in 2024.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I don't know what to say here.
[SPEAKER_02]: I guess it's good that we're all getting work or training now with this, the people who need it presumably are getting it.
[SPEAKER_02]: On that, but on the other hand, what are the states doing to fix the root cause and the problem?
[SPEAKER_02]: Are we talking about root causes and safety?
[SPEAKER_02]: Why, what are they doing to fix the root cause of all these problems, some unemployment and everything else?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I said during last years,
[SPEAKER_02]: mayoral race and New York with mom and daddy and some of the other talking welfare fraud and this and that well what exactly is the state doing to bring jobs into their state what's the state doing to educate their people that's where the question has to the question has one question has a answer yeah I don't think we got a sufficient answer with that
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, here we have, I've never met him.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I've met Senator Rand Paul, I've never met his son.
[SPEAKER_02]: And if I did, it was, and he wouldn't have been very young.
[SPEAKER_02]: When I did the Adults son of Senator Rand Paul, launch a violent anti-Semitic and homophobic tirade at Mike Waller.
[SPEAKER_02]: Why am I reporting on this?
[SPEAKER_02]: Mike Waller is my congressman.
[SPEAKER_02]: And a DC bar, and a DC bar, through tonight saying at one point that I ran war was about the case and the Jews and I hate both of them and I don't care if they die.
[SPEAKER_02]: quote and quote.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what the report is.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just reading it, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: This is out of the New Archives.
[SPEAKER_02]: In a phone conversation, we're counting the evening, evening, evening, Waller told the posts that he was sitting at a popular DC bar with a friend and a reporter from for notice, which was first revealed the incident.
[SPEAKER_02]: What is notice?
[UNKNOWN]: I have no idea.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sunner, so, Senator Rand Paul's bleeping sun is sending next to us at the bar.
[SPEAKER_02]: He just shines in over our conversation, leaving drunk and belligerent.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then starts going off about, you know, if Rufferson taught his math, he loses his primary, it's because of my people all they're called.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, what people?
[SPEAKER_02]: People who says, the Jews, and I'm like, you think I'm Jewish?
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm Irish Italian Catholic, buddy.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to verify one thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Michael Lawler's office is loaded with, uh, uh, uh, not loaded, but has several pieces of, uh, sopranos memorabilia in it.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, uh, you know, he's not Jewish, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Here, uh, with this.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, wait, you're not Jewish, and while there's said, what if I was, what's the problem?
[SPEAKER_02]: And he got into the middle of these, said it goes on and on and on.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now let me point out something here that this is not mentioned in the article, or the, some of the other articles here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, Rockland County where I live has a significant population of Jewish people in the Jewish state, whether they are ultra-orthodox or Arab-E or Hasidic Orthodox reformed, and I think there's one other type, which escapes my mind right now.
[SPEAKER_02]: So when you are a congressman for a community with a significant group, whether it's my race, religion, what have you, it would make sense that you sit down and you talk to them, especially if you're going to be a good congressman, and especially if you're running for election, so I don't understand where this is.
[SPEAKER_02]: year and uh... with my deal after my dealings with uh... both rompall and his son his son i met once rompall his father who was called or spend for many years and out of taxes uh... i'm uh... met many times actually surprised uh... that uh... something like this would happen you know i really am a little bit disappointing uh... there
[SPEAKER_02]: uh... okay uh... of them so notice uh... dot work i've never heard of this uh... organization uh... here uh... a little um... they did a report on this story because one of their reporters was an eyewitness uh... to them uh... so i don't know uh... what's going on here
[SPEAKER_02]: But it is, you know, internet connections, thank you.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, now I ran, and this is from a little bit, yeah, actually, okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Here we have a million dollar snap food for food sam fraud scheme in Walton's vacuards Farts Outrage.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a cruel joke.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll have to say a Mr. Muhammad's plan involved a high degree, I came for an answer for his name, involved the high degree of sophistication and incurred over a lengthy period of time.
[SPEAKER_02]: Again, Minnesota, a lot of fraud.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what to tell you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, I have been mentioning this for time and memorial here at this point, 543 programs.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he had to set this mission, this misses, the foolish US stockpile concerns as iron conflict test munitions.
[SPEAKER_02]: Tamahawk missiles attack them, and patriotic interceptors are among the systems heavily used during the ironing conflict.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now we have this article here, that says, and he says, as much a load of baloney, I have articles lined up here,
[SPEAKER_02]: That's say far from it is going to take five to ten years to rebuild our stockpiles.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, let's see.
[SPEAKER_02]: We went to this start.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, just I was having a conversation with a family member with just regular.
[SPEAKER_02]: With just regular ammunition, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Because of the.
[SPEAKER_02]: smelting plants in this country, United States, being closed in the 2010s, and the federal government, whether no obscure branches of federal governor you would think, would have never had to buy small arms ammunition.
[SPEAKER_02]: and bought it out during the last days of the Obama administration with those things there's an ammunition shortage.
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't have the capacity there and we've been seeing that for a long time.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you're a hunter, you're being impacted since about 2011 with this stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't have the capacity.
[SPEAKER_02]: We could shut the factories.
[SPEAKER_02]: was not a very smart thing to do, very short sight in my opinion.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm not saying that with hindsight bias, when I grew up, there were a lot of World War II veterans still who were, and veterans and people alive that were an eligible for World War II.
[SPEAKER_02]: For the draft, there was still a lot of those folks around.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we used to go hunting and fishing with them.
[SPEAKER_02]: My father of brothers and I and they'd say, yeah, they're in World War II.
[SPEAKER_02]: We didn't hunt at all because there was a ammunition shortage.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, ah, how could there be an ammunition shortage?
[SPEAKER_02]: 10 years old, what do you know?
[SPEAKER_02]: Right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't tell that to my kids, but you know, 10 years old, what do you know?
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, yeah, sure enough ammunition shortages do happen.
[SPEAKER_02]: Here and before and with that and between that and the Ukrainian war supplies, I mean at a certain point we call it pathological empathy here.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's where you put yourself in danger by being concerned about other people.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't know, here you go, did you hear this one?
[SPEAKER_02]: Eric Clapton was him in the chest by a fan-throwed object, cut, concert, short.
[SPEAKER_02]: The 81-year-old was struck by what appeared to be a vinyl record and skipped as usual on Quar Thursday night in Spain.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: What is it?
[SPEAKER_02]: What people?
[SPEAKER_02]: When did this become fashionable?
[SPEAKER_02]: I know this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, you hear about this, Adele, I think it happened to, it happened to Katy Perry, it might have happened to Taylor Swift, definitely having a Madonna where they got hit by a throne objects.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't get it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Used to be, I'm dating myself.
[SPEAKER_02]: For whatever reason, I used to throw batteries back in the day.
[SPEAKER_02]: Food back in the day.
[SPEAKER_02]: I remember there was an incident in...
[SPEAKER_01]: Pardon me, I had to clear my throat.
[SPEAKER_01]: Allergies are killing me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So back in high school, I know that people were throwing food on a soccer game, that got into big trouble.
[SPEAKER_02]: Made the paper and everything.
[SPEAKER_02]: That was back in the 80s.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what would happen today.
[SPEAKER_02]: situation like that happened and what's even funnier is a friend of the program Ed who I went to high school with he is now working for the recipients of the food right on there and he says it's pretty funny how you have two different points of view on the same incident here.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was St. Joe's versus East Frontswick and soccer.
[SPEAKER_02]: Final, final is, I think.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, it did not appear that Captain was injured or two-faced while he flying object before he was made 10 to show him why it was a little bit as scheduled.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what to tell you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, you want to, I'll say this much.
[SPEAKER_02]: After the tragedy that he had back in 1993 with his son dying, he changed his life significantly.
[SPEAKER_02]: So here people go through tragedy.
[SPEAKER_02]: They changed their lives significantly.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he became very, very religious with this.
[SPEAKER_02]: I wonder if he still plays cocaine.
[SPEAKER_02]: What's that?
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, uh, what I, uh, a couple of months ago, um, yeah, a couple of months ago, I hit, uh, you know, uh, my son, so, that, that, did they really have songs about cocaine on the radio when you're a kid as a, oh, absolutely, and here it is.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, you know,
[SPEAKER_02]: She's all right.
[SPEAKER_02]: She's all right.
[SPEAKER_02]: She's all right.
[SPEAKER_02]: She's all right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do do cocaine.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, yes, I'm a bad singer.
[SPEAKER_02]: However, some of the songs I can sing as a tends to do by Jay Allen, when we went to karaoke.
[SPEAKER_02]: But anyway, Australia's covered in conduct of scenario analysis and it's annual budget under which the award and iron intensifies driving oil to $200 a barrel and throwing the global economy into chaos.
[SPEAKER_02]: This could occur if the conflict is contracted or if escalation further damages energy and export infrastructure across the Middle East and shutself oil supply from the region, and this is from thefinancialpost.com, including through the Red Sea trade route.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now let me comment on this.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm too young to remember in the 1974 oil crisis, uh, or energy crisis, but I do remember it was pounded into our head, right, pounded again and again, uh, and I'm not physically, but you have to shut the lights off before you leave the room.
[SPEAKER_02]: And this is also shortly after the first Earth Day.
[SPEAKER_02]: And all these energy saving things that we got into the habit, I thought, we grew up in.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it even caused the problem when I went to school because the teacher, the parent teacher, conference in, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh.
[SPEAKER_02]: Kindergarten 1st St This is Polesal.
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't understand.
[SPEAKER_02]: Every time Jimmy leaves the classroom and or leaves a room and there is no money and it shuts the lights off.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he insists on shutting the lights off the same energy.
[SPEAKER_02]: And my mother says, well, that's where you raise them to do with that.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I pervasive and then the 78, 79 when the Iranian and 80 when the Iranian oil cries to sit, 40, 70 years ago.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that was a different cause and was middleman issues here.
[SPEAKER_02]: What happened was that was not pretty.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's when everybody went out and bought wood burning stoves, which I just got rid of my dad's a couple of years ago from 78.
[SPEAKER_02]: People went out and, no, buy a mask because Casua Fruule oil was extremely expensive and that's what we used.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, we're gonna have gasoline tanker show up at 11 to refill our tanks.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, people out there ate a clock in the morning.
[SPEAKER_02]: Was not pretty because most of the cars in 1970s had no air conditioning in the server and you were listening to a M radio, maybe that's how I became an A M radio guy.
[SPEAKER_02]: uh... but here we're talking oil prices and we got used to real cheap oil and that's where all the business uh... plans are uh... on right are based on world line and now you're dealing with a gap higher energy prices it's an issue now when i'm going to predict is this last time we had these situations about twenty five years ago what did everybody do
[SPEAKER_02]: here, right, early 2000s.
[SPEAKER_02]: There was a big bike in craze where I predict we're going to have some e-bikes out there, a lot of them with that, with that, but the thing is electric going up in price also.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's an issue, it's an issue to keep.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, what my question is, what are you doing for this?
[SPEAKER_02]: On front end giving a presentation of Rutgers, I'll probably release it here late this week early next week.
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll do it here on disaster planning.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know it's not disaster in month, but we're going to talk about it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And what it comes down to, and I had a conversation with organization, I deal with with the hunt of iris also.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, I'm not changing things, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Because it's the disaster hunt of iris.
[SPEAKER_02]: And you're going to say, well, what's going, well, it's like this, will the hunt of our situation turn into another COVID-19 situation?
[SPEAKER_02]: What quarantines, a lockdowns, and everything else?
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have no idea.
[SPEAKER_02]: None.
[SPEAKER_02]: If it does, how are we going to manage this because right now, in Congress today, there was a man talking about coverups, a whistleblower, where I have the program, I'm going to edit that, and it's entirety, I'm going to have it here tomorrow, all of the things I'm still going through the testimony,
[SPEAKER_02]: the accusations are amazing.
[SPEAKER_02]: And now what's going to happen if this hunter virus thing gets bad becomes another code of COVID-19.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do we actually trust the CDC and our other government officials to manage it correctly to actually manage it?
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm going to say what I said immediately after the Anthrax cleanups, we didn't have this venue here, but I'm going to say that they are having that name prepared for nothing, nothing, and I'm going to go on that assumption.
[SPEAKER_02]: because right now what I see is well they didn't know what they're going to do no one's going to do anything blah blah blah not going to be taken seriously you know and no we're not going to listen to the government then this time it might actually be the boy who cried wolf or we might actually have a problem or on the other hand there can be paralyzed to do anything because I don't want to what to again election year and everything else
[SPEAKER_02]: So what does it come down to is, is what are you doing?
[SPEAKER_02]: We talked about huntifiers last night, very, very common in the United States.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, 900 people's 1993 died from huntifiers.
[SPEAKER_02]: They have a 40% fatality rate, which means that there were about 2,000 cases in 25 years.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, roughly.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, that's not a lot.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, that was what the strings we had here, not the string that this is dealing with.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was the WHO updated their guidelines on Hunter virus.
[SPEAKER_02]: The recently, like in the last couple of weeks, we got a story on this, we talked to that last night.
[SPEAKER_02]: The whole thing is, what are you going to do?
[SPEAKER_02]: What are your plans?
[SPEAKER_02]: Do your plan to be updated if you own organization?
[SPEAKER_02]: If you're managing, do your plans need to be updated?
[SPEAKER_02]: Just saying what we're going to do with the CDC says, I don't know if that's, I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if that's the answer we're looking for here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Not the answer I'm going to give.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, back to an anthrax, clean up, it's 2001.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was obvious to me that the Centers for Disease Control, and I can't go, and I am an NDA.
[SPEAKER_02]: With that, Centers for Disease Control did not have, did not know what they were doing.
[SPEAKER_02]: With that, very good at what they do, managing an emergency like that, not so good.
[SPEAKER_02]: Making recommendations for that confusing people and other lawmakers not so good.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, what's the other thing?
[SPEAKER_02]: During the, I had a conversation with one of my neighbors who is a very high up person and the education field in Rockland County.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, she is the head of an education organization.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we were talking and she said, well, you know, she found out what I do.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, well, this is what the problem is.
[SPEAKER_02]: have an emergency now.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now it's not the time where we start debating its staff or act, when all this said and done, we, that's what we need to do.
[SPEAKER_02]: That do a after-action thing, which Congress did last December, I believe it was, on COVID, and find out how we can improve the laws and our systems, make them more resilient, and more consistent.
[SPEAKER_02]: hasn't happened to my knowledge that hasn't happened now uh... were to the point well hey uh... you know we're not going to talk about so that's fine right here we have uh... from the mirror i covered the story yesterday we're going to cover it again with some commentary touch hospital workers forced forced to quarantine after possible on device exposure to dpb failure
[SPEAKER_02]: They failed to they failed to follow specific strict protocols set by the hospital to contain the hunt of virus infection and will now remain in preventive quarantine for six weeks as a result.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sounds like you're blaming the employees here, doesn't it?
[SPEAKER_02]: Why, right as, uh, so I tell you what, I don't have this oven ready to come and I'm going to do this, right, uh, NIOSH hierarchy, uh, controls pyramid.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's get that up here.
[SPEAKER_02]: So this is directly from NIOSH, you're and let me zoom in on it for your viewers and
[SPEAKER_02]: You're if you're been safety like more than two weeks it was probably of seeing this.
[SPEAKER_02]: And at the top of the pyramid you had elimination in blue than substitution underneath it in green, engineering controls administrative controls in PPE.
[SPEAKER_02]: So elimination basically remove the hazard, substitution replace a very dangerous,
[SPEAKER_02]: situation with the less dangerous situation, an engineering control isolate people from the hazard, then you have administrative controls, change the way people work them, also change the rules.
[SPEAKER_02]: Then you have PPE, protect the work or PPE, and the PPE is the least desirable thing you could do.
[SPEAKER_02]: And hold on, I'm getting all these pop-outs here.
[SPEAKER_02]: What's my point here?
[SPEAKER_02]: Elimination is most effective.
[SPEAKER_02]: P.P.
[SPEAKER_02]: is least effective.
[SPEAKER_02]: Here we have a deadly thing here, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Forty percent failure rate, and that is the P.P.E.
[SPEAKER_02]: They weren't wearing the P.P.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, this point's at what the problem is with the P.P.E.
[SPEAKER_02]: PPE is a last resort.
[SPEAKER_02]: Why?
[SPEAKER_02]: Because you have to set rules.
[SPEAKER_02]: Why?
[SPEAKER_02]: Because when you set rules, people have to follow the rules to make things safer.
[SPEAKER_02]: Again, I did not say safe.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's safer.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's barriers of control.
[SPEAKER_02]: And you have safeguards.
[SPEAKER_02]: You have controls in there.
[SPEAKER_02]: What this is is, you know, they failed.
[SPEAKER_02]: How about the hospital failed to enforce rules?
[SPEAKER_02]: How about the hospital failed to set up a system that, right, maybe the hospital failed to set up a system so maybe this wouldn't happen.
[SPEAKER_02]: Perhaps they should have had a manager supervisor there.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm glad you guys, gals, people,
[SPEAKER_02]: Gotta, you know, this is a series where we change our protocols, which is what they're saying here, gotta change, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: And you have to be there with that.
[SPEAKER_02]: So they were handling the blood and urine of an infected person, right, been on a board of vassal.
[SPEAKER_02]: Despite the risk reduction infection, below the 12 healthcare workers, remain in preventative quarantine for six weeks as a precaution.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, and I get, no, hey, they weren't wearing PPE.
[SPEAKER_02]: How many of us are in COVID?
[SPEAKER_02]: I wasn't one of them, but there were a lot of people.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, he got COVID, and he didn't take any precautions, shame on him.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a good thing that they died.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're trying to thin out the herd here.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's why people think this is where the blame came ends.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're happy because people died.
[SPEAKER_02]: Or they deserved it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, that had I heard that a long time.
[SPEAKER_02]: Couple of time.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, no, and it's going to come out soon that this isn't a real virus.
[SPEAKER_02]: Watch.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the next thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: This isn't a what wait in your work area.
[SPEAKER_02]: And you're right.
[SPEAKER_02]: I stopped counting out about 75 people from a make-of-the-virus thying in my life that were either a friend, none of any of my family died, but friends and friends of friends and family members of co-workers, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not counting out about 50.
[SPEAKER_02]: I estimate it was well over 100.
[SPEAKER_02]: I had a running list, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Here we have from the Sun UK, higher spread, key development that would force to us schools to close their hunt-of-irus fears as travelers from rat-virus, ship returned to U.S.
[SPEAKER_02]: Concerns are continue to grow over how the hunt-of-irus have very good effect the U.S. at your one American test deposit for rat-borne disease.
[SPEAKER_02]: Some fear that school schools could close again.
[SPEAKER_02]: That was my word again, and the hunt of irisabraids were to pose a greater risk to the public.
[SPEAKER_02]: But health experts have revealed that a unlikely development that would not, uh, that would need to have him for a shutdown.
[SPEAKER_02]: No one would want to win me, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Now here you go, uh, let's see what they say, and I'm going to tell you what the real answer is in the United States.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Six foot or closer, oh, you're living with a person.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sharing the same forks, knives, and spoons, family solid, what does that really mean?
[SPEAKER_02]: Close contact.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, nebulous terms.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: At 18 Americans, including one British dual citizen, will who decided to quarantine the U.S. landed in Omaha, Nebraska, just before 2.30 a.m. on Monday.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, did you see the bus that they were trying that some of these people are driving in inside this country, and outside this country?
[SPEAKER_02]: Everybody is all dotted up on the bus and the except for the bus driver.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I guess it's through the bus driver.
[SPEAKER_02]: officials confirmed that one american test positive or hunter virus right so let's go down here uh... right so public anxiety has uh... began with some parents worry that schools could like could a close likely uh... right like they didn't cover nineteen trend of her done via dotter of public health based in california tell the sun on Tuesday that school closures are likely there's zero power probability okay
[SPEAKER_02]: We've all gotten, I think, a little bit smarter.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you've been listening to the programs on CTFM, you definitely have gotten a lot smarter than you haven't ever listened to this program.
[SPEAKER_02]: You had a lot smarter.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[SPEAKER_02]: We have a thing here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Are we just rescinded a lot of the pandemic restrictions in the laws, right, when the new administration came
[SPEAKER_02]: We have a thing here called the general duty clause, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: You say, okay, Jim, what does that mean?
[SPEAKER_02]: So just so I don't fall this up.
[SPEAKER_02]: Four things needed for a general duty clause violation.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is what you're going to need.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, you're going to need to establish, you know, because people listening, I want to make sure what's the general duty clause.
[SPEAKER_02]: So under the occupational safety and now that the 1970 null subsequent reissuences on this law,
[SPEAKER_02]: You have the general duty clause, which says, a employer's must, furnish a workplace free from recognized hazards, likely the cause that there's serious physical arm, to employees, the clauses of line only when no specific OSHA standard exists for the hazard.
[SPEAKER_02]: The blurs are expected to take reasonable steps to prevent or abate hazards, including hazard assessments, providing protective equipment and training purposes, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Elements of a violation,
[SPEAKER_02]: Employee exposure and employees were actually exposed to the hazard, too, as a recognized hazard.
[SPEAKER_02]: The hazard is known or should be known by the employer, recognized by the employer.
[SPEAKER_02]: It calls the serious harm.
[SPEAKER_02]: The hazard is caused in a likely caused death or serious harm or physical injury.
[SPEAKER_02]: Feasibility, abatement, there exists a feasible and effective method to eliminate or reduce the hazard.
[SPEAKER_02]: OK. Now.
[SPEAKER_02]: COVID had a much lower death rate than what this is, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: You get this, 40% of it is going to end up dead.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like 38%, they ran it up to 40.
[SPEAKER_02]: COVID wasn't that high.
[SPEAKER_02]: I look at all the issues we had with that.
[SPEAKER_02]: So what would it cause for the schools to shut down?
[SPEAKER_02]: It would cause a school union,
[SPEAKER_02]: Who's who is in a state that has a PO show like New Jersey or something like that that covers public employees and school teachers are public employees.
[SPEAKER_02]: It would take an outbreak in a school one or two people coming down with a God forbid, knock on wood, don't want this to happen.
[SPEAKER_02]: the general duty clause.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what it would take.
[SPEAKER_02]: You only need one.
[SPEAKER_02]: And at a trained contact tracer, I'm going to tell you this, what would it take for them to shut down a school district?
[SPEAKER_02]: So you have Johnny.
[SPEAKER_02]: Johnny is a nice boy nine years old.
[SPEAKER_02]: Johnny takes karate, is involved in little league, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: If this is in the summer, maybe soccer in the winter, basketball soccer in the fall, and in the spring in some places, and basketball in the winter.
[SPEAKER_02]: Johnny has 10 kids on his basketball team.
[SPEAKER_02]: working kids on his little team.
[SPEAKER_02]: He has, I don't know, however many kids are on a soccer team.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't recall.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: So now we have Johnny S. Patients 0.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now he was in Colowe's physical contact with around 35 kids right in his school district.
[SPEAKER_02]: That school district has
[SPEAKER_02]: four elementary schools, so 30 kids, roughly why should it's at 32 kids total, then it will be easy math, and there will be eight kids.
[SPEAKER_02]: At every school, potentially, was exposed to Johnny who has a hunt of Iris.
[SPEAKER_02]: What do you think is gonna happen when they, I kinda cut this whole thing out here, and this is gonna be a separate video.
[SPEAKER_02]: What do you think is going to happen when the teacher's union gets involved?
[SPEAKER_02]: When the parents get involved, all these kids go into quarantine.
[SPEAKER_02]: If the quarantine policy is truly going to be six weeks of quarantine.
[SPEAKER_02]: You think the public health system is going to be on overload?
[SPEAKER_02]: You think they're going to let Johnny's friends
[SPEAKER_02]: stay at home, infecting all of those families.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to assume there's three other people in the house.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now we go from 30 30 people now potentially up to 90 people, plus a 90 people here.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then whatever they were involved in, and they're a school, and then it, well, proved to us we're not going to get on to virus.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's when the general duty clause kicks in and the guess what?
[SPEAKER_02]: And if the unions really want it because a lot of the unions never heard of this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Even though they all have a out-of-shout retraining, I've talked a lot of union safety professionals never heard of the general duty clause.
[SPEAKER_02]: A lot of union guys never did, especially in the New York New Jersey area where they bought all the stuff on the streets.
[SPEAKER_02]: some neighborhoods.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I digress, what's it going to take?
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's Dr.
[SPEAKER_02]: Very well intention, trying to calm the public, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Right now there's all, no, and I'm not saying anything against Dr. Jennifer Dunphy because she is, right, looking that things from her point of view, from her context, there's no medical reason for it.
[SPEAKER_02]: She's saying, I'm telling
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah, so everybody should go and if you believe in God, if you, you know, when you go to church this weekend, I know I'll be there.
[SPEAKER_02]: My kids being confirmed we're going to pray that this thing will quote unquote blows over no word that's happened here or illness because I tell you what they got a election year this happened during election year.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right now, uh, I don't know how many people have this stuff I haven't found out that information.
[SPEAKER_02]: We might have a problem here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, here's what we have here, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: This is from May 11, 2026, earlier this week.
[SPEAKER_02]: A new hunt of virus, vaccine, and the work isn't that cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: What a coincidence.
[SPEAKER_02]: Amazing here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Since 2020 through Mederna and Korea, a university, I've been developing new M-R-N-A vaccine for on-devirus.
[SPEAKER_02]: The product work has been promising so far about a finished product that is likely coming anytime soon.
[SPEAKER_02]: What does this mean?
[SPEAKER_02]: Hand out.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what that means.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hand out.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right?
[SPEAKER_02]: This can for comes, this report comes after an outbreak of huntivirus occurred on a Dutch cruise ship, a sail from Argentina, and this warped its passengers in the Canary Islands on May 10th.
[SPEAKER_02]: At least three people aboard the Hondes died of a vlog.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, one of the comments here, I understand that Korea has more effect to my huntivirus, so it makes sense to partner there, but I can't help but note every public private partnership.
[SPEAKER_02]: uh... with not a united states institution right uh... again the people are blaming doge for this not being developed in this country okay after what happened on capital hill today
[SPEAKER_02]: And we're going to report on that tomorrow.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a pretty, no, here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, lawyers for Keybridge Collapse, victims, class, dolly operator for alleged cover of revealed in federal indictment.
[SPEAKER_02]: So how did this happen?
[SPEAKER_02]: From my understanding here,
[SPEAKER_02]: You had a fuel pump, and you had two back-up pumps.
[SPEAKER_02]: The two back-up pumps were called were used only for maintenance, or they're called flush pumps.
[SPEAKER_02]: And what happened was, whoever was in charge of allegedly the people who were indicted here for this, and the entities that were indicted criminally here, for this whole situation,
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, again, everyone's in a simple proven guilty here, liability of the ship's own aggression.
[SPEAKER_02]: Race Ocean is here, and also civil liability to the people in charge, you're won't go into their names, is that really, uh, uh, germane for the situation, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: They basically allegedly, when the regular fuel pump went out, automatically, the backup pumps are supposed to go on and start pumping fuel.
[SPEAKER_02]: That was for the hydraulic systems and the generator and everything else.
[SPEAKER_02]: It controls the hydraulic systems steering.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, when, since they were, these are jury rigged, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: When one went out, the other ones didn't go on and took a while to get them up and running and everything.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, and the first one died, you know, shut off because they'll lose wire.
[SPEAKER_02]: Parent cover-up is what they're saying to partner justice and never any else.
[SPEAKER_02]: What's there to be learned from this if you're doing construction or anything else?
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't jury-wake things and use the equipment you're supposed to be using.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what it comes down to.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hour-long rant here, wow.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a short commercial break.
[SPEAKER_02]: I will see everybody tomorrow here where we're hopefully going to be updating some stuff with the program.
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