We Are Liars - A Pretty Little Liars Podcast | Bonus: A Royal Conversation with Simon Jackson-Turner

Whose seat did Simon Jackson-Turner steal while attending the coronation of Charles III and Camilla? Simon joins Michelle for a conversation on what led him to being nominated for the British Honours, thoughts on the Royal family and British trivia.

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Royal Talk With Simon Jackson Turner
Simon Jackson Turner: [00:00:00] So I pretended to be on my phone, like talking on my phone and just walked past the security person and just walked to what I thought was the middle. And went to sit down, just in an empty seat. Just thought, fuck it, just gonna sit as close as I can. And then, I kind of looked up to see where I was, and I was like, next to the throne.
Simon Jackson Turner: Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. And I was like, I can't sit here.
Michelle Rubinstein: Alright, so I'm really excited for this chat, this Total Ravens Royal Talk, if you will. Uh, I am joined by Simon Jackson Turner. You all should know [00:01:00] him from The Ravens. Uh, him and his partner Dom, they discuss One Tree Hill, all types of TV shows and movies. Hi, Simon, how are you?
Simon Jackson Turner: Good. Thank you for having me.
Simon Jackson Turner: I like the total Ravens. I love it That
Michelle Rubinstein: was like when we got to meet each other last month when I was on vacation And then we took that picture and you're like I got a name. I have a title in mind for this post I was like, oh my god. This is the collaboration that everyone's been waiting for. I think
Simon Jackson Turner: Absolutely
Michelle Rubinstein: So this discussion is really It's really for me, to be honest, because I'm so, so curious.
Michelle Rubinstein: I did a little stalking. On, on May 6th, you posted an Instagram post. And you wrote, Today has been a surreal day. And it's a picture of you sitting at the coronation of King Charles and Queen Camilla. [00:02:00] And I was like, what? And so I'm, I'm going through the carousel of images, and then there's a selfie of you and Lionel Richie, and I'm like, what is...
Michelle Rubinstein: happening. And then so someone commented and said, what is your connection? And you said, I was on the honors list in 2020, 2020. That's how I got invited. And you put an upside down smiley emoji, which like personally is one of my favorites. And so when we met up last month and we got to go for a walk and I asked you all like British things, which.
Michelle Rubinstein: By the way, at the end of this episode, please stay tuned to hear, uh, my questions for Dom and Simon on a couple of, uh, all English things. I wanted to ask you how you felt about, one, attending the coronation, but also, The royal family in general. So I'm just so curious, Simon.
Simon Jackson Turner: It's complicated. It's very complicated.
Simon Jackson Turner: Um, but the, well, I don't really know where to start. I [00:03:00] mean the yes. So I was, I don't know how familiar you are or how familiar your listeners are with like how it works in the UK with the honors list and all of that stuff. But essentially. And this isn't to try and sound like egotistical or anything, um, and you'll hear why, because I actually declined the award, so it's a whole, it's a whole thing, but it's kind of like the most prestigious thing you can, that you can get or be awarded in the UK is to be on the honors list, and so before she passed away, it was the It's the Queen's Honours list, so now I guess it'll be the King's Honours list.
Simon Jackson Turner: And at the end of each year, on New Year's Eve, or New Year's Day, I might be getting that wrong. It's either New Year's Eve or New Year's Day. In all of the papers, like it'll literally be in every newspaper. In the country, on tv, everywhere, they'll come out with the list and it's the list of the people that they're honoring in the country, like the British people that have made this list.
Simon Jackson Turner: [00:04:00] And people are on it at different levels. So the highest level is like if you get a Knight Hood or a Dame hood, is it a hood? You can Sure. They made a night, made a night or a dame, you know, like the full on, you know, big stuff. Uh, and people get, you have addition, it gets added to your name. So people will be like.
Simon Jackson Turner: Sir Alex Ferguson, the very famous Man United, you know, football manager or Sir, um, I don't know, David Attenborough or, you know, people that are super high up, uh, that have done like amazing things for the country. And then it goes down and there's different levels. So there's, and it's all letters that you get behind your name.
Simon Jackson Turner: So it's like OBE, CBE, MBE. It kind of like makes your career if you have letters behind your name It's on your email address on all the letters, you know mail that you would get it would say your name MBE, CBE, whatever. So it's like a really big deal. Um, and [00:05:00] I Got put on the list for the work that I do Um, but it was kind of in connection to the Special Olympics, so I was a basketball coach for the Special Olympics, which is very ironic because it all started from me getting into basketball from watching One Tree Hill.
Simon Jackson Turner: I'd never played basketball until I watched that show, was inspired to start playing, and then kind of went on this parallel journey within basketball while... Having a teaching career, teaching, I guess you'd call it special ed, but we called it learning disabilities. And, so these two sort of things were running parallel, and I ended up being a coach on the Great Britain basketball team.
Simon Jackson Turner: So for the country, um, this is a whole story in itself, but I'll just give you the shortened version. Um, so I coached a local basketball team and called it the Ravens. This is like 12 years ago, something like that. We did really well and we won a national tournament so we got like gold in the [00:06:00] country and while at the finals of this event Was like the scouting people for the great britain team And so I got a place to be the assistant coach for great britain to go for this world summer games, which is the special olympics olympics where all 200 countries come and compete and it's like this massive thing and it was in la in 2015 in the coliseum and It was a whole thing and we actually won gold there and we're like world champs.
Simon Jackson Turner: It was like a big massive thing Oh my god,
Michelle Rubinstein: this is I have chills right now This is
Simon Jackson Turner: wild Well, this is the prelude because this was in this was in 2015. And so then at that point I I'd I'd started my teaching career as well. And then as At the special olympics every four years like the traditional olympics and four years later in 2019 I became the head coach for great britain and went out to abby [00:07:00] dabby for the 2019 special olympics world summer games, uh, and we actually won gold again So back to back but this time I was like Running things.
Simon Jackson Turner: And we actually beat USA in the final, which was like, it's a big deal because, you know, USA, America is the home of basketball. So to like, it was a, it was a really close game. The, the main, uh, like the point guard for the American team actually scored, uh, it wasn't even a half court buzzer beater. He scored from like his own free throw line.
Simon Jackson Turner: Scored this buzzer beater that went viral online. It got like 20 million views or something. I'll send a link to you, uh, to you at some point. Yeah, and that was in like the semi finals. Then we played them in the final. It was this whole big thing. And yeah, and we, we won, it was on ESPN, it was like this whole massive thing.
Simon Jackson Turner: But at the same time, in like my teaching career, I had left teaching and started my own care service, [00:08:00] uh, called the Inclusion Project. And that was sort of run in parallel while I was doing the basketball stuff. It was like a hobby, I was just doing it for fun. It's, you know, it's volunteering, it's not like paid work, it was just like a passion.
Simon Jackson Turner: At the same time, I started this care service, and it also kind of like erupted at the same sort of time. Uh, that I started in 2016. And which is, you know, I'm still working on today. It's now something that I, I co managed with my wife. And that did really well and won like awards and things in its own right.
Simon Jackson Turner: And so that's how we got here to the honors list. And then to get on the honors list, it's like a whole thing in itself. So you can't, don't, you don't put yourself on there. You have to have like a team of people that like nominate you. And all this evidence has to go together. And so my mum is like my biggest supporter and champion.
Simon Jackson Turner: So it started with she wrote a letter to the Queen when we had won at the Special Olympics. Because it was this whole thing about, um, the medals. And she was saying, she was saying the [00:09:00] coaches should get medals too. To make it happen, there's like 3, 000 volunteers. Because it's not just... Taking people and training them because we ended up training the players for like two years Like from all around the country to like for this one of them But also you're supporting people with a learning disability taking them to the other side of the world and then supporting them 24 7 So you also, you know helping them Live, you know personal care shaving all of that sort of stuff So she was basically writing saying, you know, look this amazing stuff happened Um, and she was also sort of being like, you should give more funding to the Special Olympics, and you know, it was a really nice thing.
Simon Jackson Turner: And she got a letter back, again, this was unbeknown to me, um, not from the Queen, but from someone in like, the royal offices saying, it sounds like your son's done some really cool stuff, you should nominate him for... You know, to be on the honors list or something like that. And so she did. But then to do it, you also have to have like four or five other people that also want to do it.
Simon Jackson Turner: So there were, there was like a [00:10:00] parent of one of the players that I took. There was like a parent from someone that uses the inclusion project and like this other people that are sort of in and around, and they put all this evidence together. And it went off and then it goes to this person that then has to come out and do all like internet stalking and find you and make sure it's all very, it's this whole rigorous thing.
Simon Jackson Turner: And then just one day I just got an email, it actually was in my junk mail, um, from the royal office saying you've been, you've been nominated or shortlisted to be on the honours list, um. Is it something that you would accept if, if we was to offer it to you? And I just didn't think about it. I was like, yeah, of course I would.
Simon Jackson Turner: Um, then maybe a month or two later, it was... New Year's Eve and then there it was I was on the honors list and was getting Phone calls from like radio places and my like name was in the paper Like lewis, you know lewis hamilton like the formula one driver It was like the year that he had got it and craig david and it was [00:11:00] this whole thing Uh, and I kind of just got a bit of like a I definitely got like an ego rush from it.
Simon Jackson Turner: Yeah, right and then and then kind of took a second to Think about it. So the award that I got was called it's called a b. e. m Uh, which is a which is a british empire medal, which is it's like like I said It's like the lowest on the list, but I mean, you know, it's on the list and yeah It's still good. And the other thing is, is these awards are usually given to people at the end of their career.
Simon Jackson Turner: It's usually for, like, your career's worth of work. We're gonna give you this now. And so I was quite, it's quite, I mean I'm not that young now, I'm 36, but I mean I got it a few years ago, so it was quite, like, a young thing to get. I then kind of took a bit of time with it, like a few weeks, and... Uh, sort of done my own research.
Simon Jackson Turner: Um, as you know, I'm in an interracial marriage, uh, which gives us some different perspectives to things. And I just wasn't comfortable with anything that had the word British Empire on it and it being associated to me with the history of [00:12:00] colonization and just the pillage and rape of all these, you know, countries around the world and what the British Empire means.
Simon Jackson Turner: And So it was a really hard thing, not for me, but for like all the people that spent this time nominating me, like my mum, all these other people, which These people also don't, you know, support the ideology of the British Empire, but a lot of people are like, you know, well, that's history. It's not, doesn't represent today, etc, etc.
Simon Jackson Turner: But I took time to think, think it through and talk it through with family and, you know, different people and I just decided it wasn't for me. So I wrote this, uh, email to them. Uh, which I, like, subjected as, uh, morals over vanity, and basically just said that I think that I, I took some vanity in this when I, when it was first offered, you know, I really appreciate the recognition, and I would accept it if you would change the name of it, if it was, like, the Queen's medal, or medal for whatever, I don't know, but I don't want to [00:13:00] be associated to anything.
Simon Jackson Turner: With that amount of negativity and that kind of history to it because it's not something that I want to represent so So declined so declined the medal Uh, because what kind what came with it is you would go to the palace and they would give you the medal So like, you know The queen or charles or whoever would like actually give it to you and pin it on your chest and all that stuff Oh my god
Michelle Rubinstein: That's that's just wild to think about keep going.
Michelle Rubinstein: I'm, sorry. I just
Simon Jackson Turner: had no i'm sorry. I'm talking too much No, this is too much detail No,
Michelle Rubinstein: this is amazing detail and I am here for it. Uh, just You taking the time to decline this is fascinating to me and really doing your research. And so you write this email What do you get back? Do you get anything?
Michelle Rubinstein: Obviously you get something back.
Simon Jackson Turner: Yeah. Yeah, they just they emailed back Well, what's funny is when I sent it I also I sent a copy of it to the people that had nominated me to say I'm really sorry, I really appreciate it, but this is how, this is how [00:14:00] I feel. And I actually almost got more, um, I don't know, respect, appreciation, whatever, from declining it than actually getting it.
Simon Jackson Turner: Um, but it was difficult because there were some people that were like, You're, this is like a, it's also like a career thing. Like this is something that kind of cements some things. But I think everybody got it, um, in the end. And yeah, they emailed back and just said, you know, Hey, I'm, uh, sorry you feel that way.
Simon Jackson Turner: Yeah, that was it really. So. There you go, and there's quite a lot of people, um, that have declined it on the same kind of basis, uh, and there's a lot of differing opinions, and it's actually what we'll, we can get to when we talk about the royal family, is why it's so divisive in this country, and well, around the world, I think, but I don't know if in some other countries it's kind of looked at as like the The fantasy of kings and queens and dungeons and dragons and coffins.
Simon Jackson Turner: Which I'm sure it is.
Michelle Rubinstein: [00:15:00] Of course. Yeah. I mean, we don't have that here. So, you know, get wrapped up in it. But really, if you dig deep into the history, it's like, hmm, do we really want to celebrate this? Does it take away from what's actually going on? Like, in quote, like real country problems.
Simon Jackson Turner: Right, absolutely.
Simon Jackson Turner: But, and there's, there's really interesting different sides of it. Um, and I had not to, I'm not sitting on the fence. I, I kind of have a, not an in the middle opinion. Um, but we can, we can talk about that. But, so yeah, so that was it and I just kind of forgot about it. Like, I just moved on and Then, so that was in 2020, that was the end of 2020, and then, and then the Queen passed away, which was like a big, a big thing in this country, even if you, if you're not a royalist and not into it, it's still a big deal because it's kind of nostalgic, and that sounds strange, but we all grew up with, we have a, we have a Queen, [00:16:00] there she is, she's on all our money, it's, she makes a speech on Christmas Day, there she is, she's kind of like grandmother of...
Simon Jackson Turner: Our nation, whether you like it, whether you believe in whatever it is or not, her approval rating is very high in, yes. And so it was kind of, it was, it was sad when she, I mean, it's sad obviously just because someone's passed away, but it was, it was sad. I think like, I can't remember what the stats were, but it was like, you know, like two or three billion people watched her funeral, something crazy like that.
Simon Jackson Turner: I watched
Michelle Rubinstein: it. I was in, I was away for a family party and that morning like we tuned in because I think we felt it all around. Like you said, if you're a royalist or not. You still had much respect for Queen Elizabeth, and we grew up with her. She's like, when I think of, like, the royal family, I think of her, and then it goes to Diana, and then Charles, and Henry, and...
Michelle Rubinstein: Not Henry, Harry. Sorry.
Simon Jackson Turner: I was like, is there one I don't know? I don't know that one. Who's that one? Is that an uncle?
Michelle Rubinstein: How [00:17:00] dare I? How dare I? Harry, and... yeah. But, okay, so in... I was just curious before we move on, you got the email that you got the award, and then you started, like you said, you got your ego boost, and you got calls from radio stations, how much time passed until you wrote the email of, I don't want to accept this?
Simon Jackson Turner: Oh, not long, maybe like two weeks? Oh, okay, okay, gotcha. Yeah, yeah, not long. And some of it was... Like, some of it was, was talking with my wife about it, um, and me, and just being, like, hypothetical and be like, Oh, what would, you know, how would you feel? What would you do? Or, um, and she was really, she really didn't want me to decline it.
Simon Jackson Turner: She was like, you know, you've earned it, you deserve it, you deserve to be recognized at this level and, and whatever else. Whether that's true or not, I, I, it's not for me to judge or for me to say. Um, I was happy with my Lexi award that I got for [00:18:00] podcasting from Lex and Matt. There was like a little plastic chilli thing.
Simon Jackson Turner: That's good for me. Um, but. Yeah, I, but it really for me was just that, you know, like I have, we, we have a son, he has mixed heritage, and you know, it's real, like his ancestors would have been, you know, horribly, horrifically, horrendously treated, and you know, enslaved, and all these other things that Was from British Empire, so am I gonna have something like that in my house?
Simon Jackson Turner: Um, that I'm gonna like show him and be proud of? No, I'd rather be I'm I'm proud to be the person that said no, uh, no thank you. If you can change all of that. Sure, but if it's about that then no, I mean, I think it's the same for so many people So, I mean we can talk about that part I mean there's i'm somebody that believes in that reparations need to be paid Apologies need to be made and these are all things that the royal family [00:19:00] Won't, won't do.
Simon Jackson Turner: I mean, they could literally sell, sell some paintings and sell some, like, jewellery and give all of that stuff and give that money back. Does it make it better and okay? Absolutely not. But, would it help? Could they literally boost, like, nations, economies and, and show that, hey, We recognize that this history is a tragedy and that's not something we represent.
Simon Jackson Turner: We want to represent positive change and, you know, they actually do, like, Charles is really into, like, environmentalism that's really cool. You should push that sort of stuff. Yeah, so for me, it wouldn't take much for them to do that. Um, And then I think everyone could be on board. I mean, the function of the royal family in the UK is pretty much nothing.
Simon Jackson Turner: I mean, they, we have, you know, politicians and a prime minister and MPs that do all of the decision making and taxes and laws and all of that stuff. And the [00:20:00] royal family is more of like a... It's more of a tourist thing and the justification that a lot of British people have is that they bring in more money through tourism than they actually cost to have so it's a benefit to the country and They all of the work they do is charity work like they go and open hospitals and you know do charity events for things So it's I think that most people kind of sit on the point of It's fine, like, kind of a bit of indifferent, and then, it's also generational, so, like, my parents generation, like, the baby boomer generation and above, they all love the royal family, like, there's obviously, there's obviously exceptions, but majority love the royal family, and then, like, Our generation, millennials, are kind of split.
Simon Jackson Turner: Some people are like, I grew up with it, this is what it is, and, you know, they bring in more money than they spend, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then you've got the other side that are like, fuck the royal family, why, why did they get born into this [00:21:00] privilege and honour? Why is it that, why is my family not in a palace and, you know, that kind of thing?
Simon Jackson Turner: And so, there's a lot of people, you know, that will be like, not my king, not my queen, not my, that sort of thing. And then you've got other people that are like, Devout and we'll be there at every kind of ceremony. So, uh, I think the younger generation then just aren't that into it.
Michelle Rubinstein: Yeah, I was curious on that as time goes on.
Michelle Rubinstein: Like, you know, when King Charles passes. And do you think as the generation's gone, like, William and Kate? Like is it gonna be the same amount of lore to it? You know Elizabeth to me like she was I get that you know But as we go on you learn more and generations learn more Are we still gonna hold them to this high regard or do you have to keep it as?
Michelle Rubinstein: Kind of like a symbol of the country. [00:22:00]
Simon Jackson Turner: Yeah, time will tell. I think it's never gonna be the same as how it was with the Queen like that's just no one because she was on the throne for so long and because it was like a pre internet era, right, you know pre Satellite TV, cable TV kind of thing. That's like, like, so in the UK, like I said, she would make a speech on Christmas Day.
Simon Jackson Turner: And everyone would tune in for that. It's like 10 minutes. She'd recorded it three weeks beforehand, but everyone would tune in for it. And so there's kind of that tradition aspect to it. And... In the UK, we don't really do street parties and big celebrations and things like that, like how we see in America when it's like the 4th of July and whatever, it's like a big sort of celebration, which is great, I love that.
Simon Jackson Turner: But here, we would only do that when it's something to do with the royal family, so we'd have street parties for the, there were street parties here for the coronation. For the [00:23:00] jubilee, you know that kind of thing there's people get really patriotic about it But I think the only way that the royal family can really they're always going to continue There's no way that it won't because it's sort of built into everything.
Simon Jackson Turner: Um, but the only way that they'll continue to be popular Is if they can make, in my opinion, if they can make these changes and just have some admittance of what the history was or is, and try and put some positive there. It's never gonna make it okay, but at least we can, they can take responsibility. And lead by example of saying never again, and what can we do to help?
Simon Jackson Turner: That's all they have to do. And even just to have
Michelle Rubinstein: the conversation, and to show that it's being talked about, or things, actions, let's see the actions of it.
Simon Jackson Turner: Absolutely. Then there was a difficult decision with the coronation, so I didn't How'd that come to be? How'd that come to be? Another email that was in my junk folder.
Simon Jackson Turner: Um, [00:24:00] which was, so I didn't see it for like a day or two. Um, it was saying, you know, you were on the honors list. So even though I didn't accept the award, I was on the list. You know, so like that happened, you know, the list came out, but I just didn't, I declined the award. But that's still there on the list, uh, which to me was kind of also like, I'm happy about that.
Simon Jackson Turner: Like, I'll happily be on the Queen's Honours list, take it, but I just don't want the, I don't want the, the British Empire medal, I don't want that part. So yeah, I got this email saying, would you like to come, and I had said no, I didn't tell them no, but I, I just filed it, I didn't even respond, I was just like, nah, I'm not gonna go.
Simon Jackson Turner: And FaceTiming my parents with my son, because they, they'd like to say goodnight to him. And I mentioned it to my dad. I just said, Oh yeah, I got an email today saying about this. And he was like, What? You should go. like, No, I'm not gonna go. Like, I didn't take the award. My mum heard about it [00:25:00] and she was like, You have to go.
Simon Jackson Turner: Like, as in it's not just... She was kind of explaining, I don't think you understand the sort of grandioso ceremony that it is. Like, not only Will you be, it's like a thing of history, but also there's only 000, people in the world that can go. You can't buy a ticket to go, like you've been invited to go.
Simon Jackson Turner: Celebrities, world leaders are gonna be there, you know, this, that, and the other. She was like, even if you don't agree with it, it's like you should go to be able to Say hey, I was there like I just to witness a moment in history and I still didn't want to go I still said no like I don't agree with it this that and the other I kind of just like I had I had kind of Disappointed people with take declining the medal.
Simon Jackson Turner: Um, and I just kind of thought I just want to take this moment You know to make my mom proud. I know that sounds really cliche, but It kind of meant it meant [00:26:00] something to her and to my dad. They also don't agree with right the british empire stuff, but I guess to have like their son recognized that at this level and to be At this event it meant something so I said, okay.
Simon Jackson Turner: Yeah, I'll go my wife was into it She's like, yeah, you got to go you got to do this. So I was like, okay, I feel good Everyone feels okay. I feel okay. I kind of made my statement or i'll get i'll give it a go I'll do it. So I email them back and say okay. Cool. Yeah. Thank you. I'll go and Then they, in the post, like a week later, um, we called it post, in the mail, got the, got this, the invitation, um, and it's crazy.
Simon Jackson Turner: I mean, the invitation itself is insane. Like, it's the most fanciest thing. You kept it right? I hope. Yeah. Yeah, I have it. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's an art. It's like, it's, it's made to be commemorative. Like it's, uh, do, do you want me to get it? I think it's in here. It is. I mean, if it's
Michelle Rubinstein: not too much trouble, but of [00:27:00] course don't, don't hassle
Simon Jackson Turner: yourself conveniently.
Simon Jackson Turner: It was just there. Um, so this is what it looks like. Um, so is that heavy
Michelle Rubinstein: duty card
Simon Jackson Turner: stock? Right, yeah, this is really, it's like heavy card, and all of this is like, raised and embossed, um, And, it's just really cool, I mean, it says like, Coronation of their majesties, King Charles III and Queen Camilla, By command of the King, the Earl Marshal is directed to invite Simon Jackson Turner to be present at the Abbey Church of Westminster on the 6th day of May 2023.
Simon Jackson Turner: So it's like, it's really cool, and It's beautiful! It's beautiful. From that moment, I was like, oh okay, this is gonna be pretty cool, like pretty swanky, and uh What's funny is, after the coronation, when I got home, there was a street party, like, in my street, um, of like, sort of the gen like, our parents generation and up.
Simon Jackson Turner: And, I I was like, talking to our neighbours, [00:28:00] and I wasn't gonna I wasn't gonna show off and be like, Oh yeah, I was just there. Um, but my wife was like, Oh yeah, Simon was just there, Um, I'll get the invitation, And she brought it out, And when she like brought this out, It was insane, Like they literally were speechless, And were like holding it all, Like, yeah, And I was just like, Yeah, it's cool, you know, It's just, They emailed me in my junk mail, What can I say?
Simon Jackson Turner: Um, yeah, To get there was a whole thing as well. So like, as you know, I don't live far from London, um, at all. It's like 20, 20 minute, uh, train journey. But to get there, I had to leave my house at like four in the morning because there were like millions of people in London just to stand like outside, you know, in Westminster and near the Abbey and whatever.
Simon Jackson Turner: So I like had my suit on and was disgruntled to have to wake up that early and got in, I had to go on my own as well. Well because it's just like an invitation for me. You can't you don't have any plus ones or anything, uh, and I get [00:29:00] there And you have to go through security. It's like crazy security to get through Because there's all like, you know, your world leaders and the royal family and all of that stuff.
Simon Jackson Turner: Lionel Richie's gonna be there. You gotta get the security. You have to go through security And so I get there get through And, uh, so it took hours, and then when I get into... I I don't rea I don't know how the invitations work, so I had that commemorative one, and then you also just had like a little A5 piece of paper that was like your actual ticket, and I just figured all the tickets are the same, you know, you just go in, and you just sit wherever, first come, first served, I don't know.
Simon Jackson Turner: Right, right. But no, they're colors. They have different colors for each ticket, and the color means you sit in like a different part of the abbey where it's at. And so I get in and I give my ticket and they like walk me to this place and I'm like walking through and I'm like, wow, there's like the throne there and there's like all the cameras are everywhere and [00:30:00] all this stuff.
Simon Jackson Turner: And I'm walking and I'm like, why are they, why am I still walking? Like they keep walking, walking, walking all the way to the back and then to like a room on like the left. And so where this room, there's not, there's just a room like, and with a TV in it, like a big TV to watch the coronation from there.
Simon Jackson Turner: So it's like, you couldn't see, you can't see anything. You wouldn't see anyone walking in. And I was like, in shock. I was in such shock. I was like, what the fuck? Like, I woke up at four in the morning. That's the thing I was most upset about. Of course. Yes. And also my parents and people were like, I hadn't told anybody.
Simon Jackson Turner: The only people I'd told were my parents and my wife. That was it. I didn't want to tell anyone. Didn't want to make it a big deal or whatever. And, but I was like, oh, this is bullshit. So I literally sat down for five seconds. And was like, no, no, no, no, I gotta just, [00:31:00] I gotta go for this. Like, I'm only gonna be here once.
Simon Jackson Turner: So it was still quite early, so people were like coming in, but it wasn't filled up. So, there, but there were like security people everywhere that were like. Wardening you to where you were and I just thought just look it look important and look like you know where you're going so I pretended to be on my phone like talking on my phone and just walked past the security person and just walked to what I thought was the middle and Went to sit down, just in an empty seat, and just thought, fuck it, just gonna sit as close as I can.
Simon Jackson Turner: And then, I kind of looked up to see where I was, and I was like, next to the throne. And I was like, I can't sit here. I can't sit here because I'm gonna get I'm gonna get moved. Um, So I just shuffled like a couple rows down and sat down And then I looked and I thought okay i'm pretty close now I think and then I looked at where I was sat and it said it was reserved for all the [00:32:00] mps And so the mps here all the politicians like literally like Like where the prime minister is gonna sit and all this stuff and I thought I can't sit here So I went like one more row over And I thought, okay, it seems cool.
Simon Jackson Turner: I kind of just sat, I think I sat in like the third row. Where I was sat was the third row of where like, the red carpet is. So I was like, so this is where everyone's gonna walk in. Like, where the king's gonna walk in. Where, all the, everybody. I was like, this would be dope. So I sat down, and I was just absolutely shitting myself.
Simon Jackson Turner: Like I was like, Yeah! So hot, sweating, I was like, someone's just gonna tap me on the shoulder, and they're not only gonna ask me to move, they're gonna chuck me out. Um, and so, I was like, they had like a big A4 program that has all of like, the hymns in it and everything, so I was just like, pretending to read this.
Simon Jackson Turner: And then, these guys, sort of, they were in the middle. We're like, Oh, let's go sit over there. And they just, he said, the guy just said to [00:33:00] me, Oh, do you mind if we sit with you? And I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Thinking, great. Sit down because then I can blend in with you. And as he sat down, I kind of like recognized him, but I didn't know what from.
Simon Jackson Turner: And so I'm just sat for a minute and they're talking next to me. So I'm listening to what they're saying, because hey, nothing else I can be doing. Right. And they're talking, this guy is talking about, yeah, you know, I've been training for this thing, and you know, the next, the next thing, and then the other guy's like, what's the next show you're doing?
Simon Jackson Turner: It's like, I'm actually doing the O2 soon, which is like our massive arena in London, and I'm thinking, oh my god. And so I sort of... Looked to see who it was, and it was Dynamo. Do you know Dynamo? I don't. He's basically, he's the British version of David Blaine. He's a really famous magician that does stuff like, Whoa!
Simon Jackson Turner: He does stuff that like Houdini does and, you know, Okay. Locks, gets locked in underwater and things and that kind of thing. Next, so he's like one person down from me. But the person [00:34:00] sat next to me, I later find out, like a, you know, a little bit later, is the lead singer of the Stereophonics, which, like, you know Stereophonics, right?
Simon Jackson Turner: I mean, they had a song in One Tree Hill. Uh, they've, in the UK, I think they've had, like, eight platinum albums, like, they, he, like, two days afterwards, he was headlining with Coldplay, you know, it's like, It's like rock, like super, like rock, sort of rock star royalty in the UK too. Yeah, yeah. They were talking about how they'd been papped on the way in and this kind of stuff and, and so I was like, I gotta, I gotta get involved in this.
Simon Jackson Turner: This is like, I've now, I've stolen someone's seat. I'm sat in front of celebrity, like with celebrities. And then I just, at one point, Like 10 minutes in just to get the conversation going. I was just like crazy day, huh? Not they're not knowing I've just stolen this seat and they're like, yeah, they're like what are you here for and I said Oh, you know, you know [00:35:00] basketball and this that and the other and I was like, what are you here for?
Simon Jackson Turner: Right, right Yeah. And so then, we, I then sat, spoke with them for three hours. Um, Oh my god! Yeah, it was crazy. I didn't know at the time that they'd had, they, cause they had one of the, like, prolific songs in One Tree Hill in Season 2, or Season 1. If I'd known that, I would've like, been like, Hey, I'm gonna have to interview you real quick.
Simon Jackson Turner: Right. They were so, he, they were so nice. I got on, I spoke more to the stereophonics guy. He was so nice. He was talking to me about his recording process and all this and was talking about his kids and talking about, about my son and just all the, it was really like, as like a celebrity interaction is, I don't think I could ever beat it.
Simon Jackson Turner: Like I sat and just spoke to him for like three hours for the whole thing. And then at the end, I mean, I'll get to the ceremony bit, but at the end, people started coming up and asking him, they. Like people were like swarming to ask them for selfies and [00:36:00] stuff and I was like I should really ask to take a picture just to like to cement this but I didn't want to because we'd had like a really cool interaction and then, uh, just as we were about to leave he turned to me and said Hey, we should really take a picture.
Simon Jackson Turner: Um, like he asked me to take the picture and I think he was doing it for me like knowing this is that's so nice Yeah, and so then he took my phone and was like dynamo take the picture gave it to dynamo and then dynamo Again, these are like really famous people in the uk. We just took the pictures So one of them is on that instagram thing.
Simon Jackson Turner: Yes, that's
Michelle Rubinstein: the selfie before lionel.
Simon Jackson Turner: Yeah Yeah, so that's dynamo and kelly jones. I
Michelle Rubinstein: was wondering i'm like Am I just missing on who these two are? But, wow.
Simon Jackson Turner: Right, and so then after, I don't know, the half an hour where everything else was filling up, like the rest of the Abbey, I was like, I think I'm safe now.
Simon Jackson Turner: Like when the ceremony started. But then, yeah, the celebrities were everywhere. So then [00:37:00] opposite me on the other side was Lionel Richie, uh, there was Stephen Fry, Katy Per well, you know the big thing about Katy Perry? Was that she couldn't find a seat for like an hour and a half. No, so my pair my parents Everyone was saying it's because I stole her seat But she couldn't find a seat.
Simon Jackson Turner: So I mean potentially I stole her seat. That's why you
Michelle Rubinstein: probably you probably
Simon Jackson Turner: did steal her seat but she I mean she was there and uh Emma thompson The actress they're like she was like right in front of me loads of people and then obviously the most famous People were the people that walked past, so you had like, you know, Prime Ministers and Presidents and things, and you had, and then you had...
Simon Jackson Turner: Harry, and the whole Harry thing was, I mean, this was like, I mean, it's always at the peak, but this was like the peak of him doing all the documentaries and everything. Yeah, yeah. And is, is he gonna go, is he not, and all of that, and [00:38:00] then William and Kate. The crazy thing about them was, uh, William and Kate, as they were walking back, and imagine how much pressure this is.
Simon Jackson Turner: You've got, like, literally a... Billion people watching you on TV. I could see their jaws, like, clenching, like, in and out, in and out, as they're, like, walking. It actually made me feel a bit sorry for them. Oh, wow. A lot. And then when, and then when Charles came down, it was crazy. It was like an inverted Mexican wave, like everybody bowed and curtsied.
Simon Jackson Turner: Not me, I kept it cool. I kept it real. I was like, no thanks, Charles. But every, it was crazy. Everybody, I'd never seen anything like it. And he had... Like, in, like, the, like, program, it had about his crown that he was wearing, and it had all of the diamonds, like, that crown is worth, like, a billion pounds or something, no exaggeration, and all of the stuff, and as he was walking through, they had, you know, orchestra, and organs, and everything, I was pretty swept up in it, like, it [00:39:00] was, the, surreal is the best way to put it, it was literally the most surreal thing I've ever seen, because, Like, it was like being in a movie with a movie score on the top of it.
Simon Jackson Turner: The King's coming down, like a billion pounds worth of stuff on him. Everybody was just speechless and bowing and it was crazy, absolutely crazy. And then he went in, they did their thing, went on forever. The Prime Minister gave a speech, um, and he was literally sat behind me, like, where he gave the speech.
Simon Jackson Turner: And so because of that, I was, and because I was sat with the celebrities, I was on TV, like, my face Like, that shot there, um, One of the shots I put in it was my friend, Cause none of my friends knew, And so I got all these vid my phone was blowing up, And my video was being like, What the fuck is Simon doing on TV?
Simon Jackson Turner: Like, what are you doing? You're sat next to Kenny Jones, Like, what the hell? And, uh, So, because they kept going back to them. I even had, I had like people in America messaging me, [00:40:00] being like, just saw you on TV and all this, like, people, people at work and stuff. Um, so, the, the thing with moving seats is literally like the, my mum instantly was like, I would have done that.
Simon Jackson Turner: I would have done that. Like, so many people were like, that's exactly what I would have done. And so many other people were like, I can't believe you did that. I would never have done it. I would have just stayed still. But that literally is like. I kind of feel like I have that story for life, not this long version, just the version of I stole Katy Perry's seat and sat at the front of the coronation.
Simon Jackson Turner: Um, and then at the end, the Lionel Richie thing was at the end, everyone was taking selfies with him, like swarming him. And these are all, other celebrities were going, storming for him to get the, the selfies and stuff. And I went to go and do it, I thought, well I'm here, I might as well. That was really not my vibe.
Simon Jackson Turner: Like I, as much as. We do all this podcasting stuff. I like podcasting. They have the conversation. I don't want to do all of the putting the camera in people's faces. [00:41:00] Um, I walked out. I didn't get the selfie. I thought just let it go. Um, I walked out and I called Ethany, uh, my wife and was saying, yeah, this has been crazy because I couldn't tell anyone that I'd like stolen this seat or anything because my mom was messaging me during it being like, Oh my God, I can't believe they gave you a seat right at the front.
Simon Jackson Turner: And I was like, well, not really, but then when I came out, I thought I was just walking out and I turned behind me and Lionel Richie was just stood behind me and somebody on his own and somebody and the sort of the swarm of people had gone and somebody said, Oh, I'm so glad I got a picture with you, Lionel.
Simon Jackson Turner: And I just sort of turned as he was on my shoulder. And I just said. I'm a really big fan, I've got to ask. And he was like, of course, man, of course. And he just kind of put his arm around me and just took the picture and then just walked out. And I was literally like, on cloud nine from this, like, it wouldn't have been, it would have been a cool thing, sure, but if I hadn't [00:42:00] moved, if I'd stayed in that room, it was the experience of being like, In it right in the heart of it and being and kind of that feeling of being somewhere you're not supposed to be this sort of sordid secret of Being at the front and that's it.
Simon Jackson Turner: So that's and then I went home and then there we go
Michelle Rubinstein: wow, and it's also just being by yourself and Kind of storing that like you're doing a little mischief By yourself and I love that because you honestly if it were me, I probably wouldn't have moved Because I'm a scaredy cat.
Michelle Rubinstein: Go for it. But also I would have been shit in my pants too, afraid that they would kick me out. I mean, yeah. How long was security
Simon Jackson Turner: to go through? Uh, maybe about an hour. It wasn't too bad. It was like going through an airport security. Oh, okay. People were wearing like, so I would just [00:43:00] wore a suit. Um, but people there, so I must have been one of the youngest people there by far.
Simon Jackson Turner: Most people were way older, like in, like I, because they made a point of saying that for this coronation, they were going to invite the people on the honors list. It was like a giving back. It's probably just trying to be like a good PR thing, honestly. But it was like, let's, let's, we want the people in there to be the people that have like, won these awards or whatever, or declined them.
Simon Jackson Turner: And, um, and so there were loads of people in there that were like, had loads of medals on their chest or had like, uh, you know, like the tails on their, um, suits or had like canes with like, Diamonds and shit in it and like all this stuff. I was just there just wearing a normal suit Like I actually felt kind of underdressed in like the best suit that I had like the smartest I could be Didn't quite feel enough.
Simon Jackson Turner: Right, right.
Michelle Rubinstein: And [00:44:00] how long was the ceremony in total?
Simon Jackson Turner: Oh, man, it was long I think it was about three and a half maybe even four hours because we had to wait yet to sit in there for ages before it even started and I And then, yeah, it was really long, and you couldn't leave either. Like, you couldn't leave to go to the bathroom.
Simon Jackson Turner: There was no water, there was nothing to eat or anything. That's what we were talking about the whole time. It was like, I'm so hungry. Right, right. Like, thirsty. You can't check your phone either really, because the cameras were like, on you all of the time. And so, uh, you kind of had to just look alert. And so it was, it was exhausting, but it was like adrenaline feeling.
Simon Jackson Turner: For me, anyway. They were probably just bored because this is like an everyday... Well, I don't think that... They were all saying that as well. They were saying that this is a really surreal thing. So I think there is some sort of there was some sort of majesticness to be in there. Wow.
Michelle Rubinstein: I'm [00:45:00] so Well, I'm just honored but also just so happy you shared this story And this is so much better than you like sending a text and just being like, oh, yeah, this is how this happened Hearing it and the detail is amazing.
Michelle Rubinstein: So I
Simon Jackson Turner: really thank you, Simon. No, thank you. I hope it doesn't sound too, like, egotistical or arrogant or anything. Like, it's, uh, yeah. I really appreciate it for a unique experience and something that will never happen again. Like, as in, I think my award winning days are behind me now. Um, I'm more constantly scared that my career is going to get ruined by podcasting, if anything.
Simon Jackson Turner: Right? I know. Yeah. It's so cute. No, it's good. It was, uh, it was great to share it, so yeah, thank
Michelle Rubinstein: you. Wow. Thanks, Simon. Uh, before we wrap up, I want you to tell everyone, I mean, I'm going to link all your stuff, but what you're working on, where they can find you. [00:46:00] What's up and coming for the Ravens
Simon Jackson Turner: and yourself?
Simon Jackson Turner: Thank you. Well, yeah the Ravens podcast Ravens movie and TV podcast You can find it in all podcast platforms me and my best friend Dom are watching one tree hill We're just going into season 7 now He's never seen it before we do live watch longs each week on zoom with our Ravens community and then podcast it with one of our patreon members and And so yeah, we're in the craziness of Season 7, but we're also working our way through...
Simon Jackson Turner: Uh, movies as well. So we focus a lot on 90s movies, but we also do, you know, newer stuff and older stuff. And so, yeah, so it's good. It's good times and we're going to be doing, uh, love actually, are we allowed to say that? Yes. Love actually with you soon on your movie friends.
Michelle Rubinstein: Yeah. I'm so excited to have you guys on.
Michelle Rubinstein: Actually. I was. earlier and he's like, I hope I don't embarrass you in front of Dom and Simon. I was like, [00:47:00] how, how would you embarrass me? And he was like, what have I said? You know, I made fun of England and I was like, they are. They're fine.
Simon Jackson Turner: We make fun of it too. You make
Michelle Rubinstein: fun of it too. It's fine. Right.
Michelle Rubinstein: It's fine. It's like, it's going to be great. Seth's never seen Love Actually, so I have a feeling he's probably not going to
Simon Jackson Turner: like it. Let's see. It's super British.
Michelle Rubinstein: Yeah. It's super British, so. Yeah. So I'm looking forward to it. But thank you again, Simon. This was a delight. And like I said at the top of the show, stay tuned, hear our chat of when we all hung out and we went for a beautiful walk.
Michelle Rubinstein: And I asked Dom and Simon about, um, Some British things. So we're here on a walk with Simon's dog. Simon and Dom, an aunt, and me. It's a walk. We're, we're in Garden City.
Simon Jackson Turner: Welling Garden City, which someone once told me sounds like the gardens of Babylon. But it's, what would you say Dom? It's a post World War II new city, but it's actually a town, right?
Simon Jackson Turner: [00:48:00] Yes. It was constructed after World War II for, you know, families of troops. To move in and live here. In 1945. He knows more about it. He doesn't live here.
Michelle Rubinstein: We have a garden city by us, but I couldn't tell you anything about that. Okay. I have questions for you guys. This is what I've gathered so far. Of being in.
Michelle Rubinstein: Look, in my notes. Questions for Simon and Dom. Okay. Were roundabouts on your road test?
Simon Jackson Turner: Yes. Yeah. Well, I mean. They're, they're just part of the road network, so you don't specifically have to do something to pass going around and around about, but you just go around them. But what if you can't? What if you have a lot of trouble going around and around about, and you miss the exit three times?
Simon Jackson Turner: Funny enough, if you're gonna miss the exit and you do go round it a few times, I don't think you fail. Because you've just continued to go round. Yeah. So as long as you're indicating. And it's safe. And it's safe. It's [00:49:00] okay. I remember being taught you had to do it in second gear, because that's the other thing here.
Simon Jackson Turner: We all have to learn shift. Um, well, we don't have to, but in our generation, oh, car coming, probably, probably shift. No, probably automatic, because it's a, it's a beamer. All of our cars now are becoming automatic. But like Dom's, your car now is your first automatic car, right? Yeah. Yeah. Do you like it? Yeah, it's alright.
Simon Jackson Turner: Again, I was saying to Ann earlier, I phantom pressed the clutch pedal that isn't there occasionally.
Michelle Rubinstein: Yeah. Yeah. Okay, so staying with, uh, talking about driving. Speed cameras, where are they and are they actually serious? Because we saw signs and I'm like, but where is
Simon Jackson Turner: it? Right. So this is an interesting one.
Simon Jackson Turner: On a motorway, there'll be a speed camera sign every, probably every junction. Yeah. So, or every, I don't know, what do you call a junction? Yeah, junction. Junction? Oh, the, what do you call it in the, uh, exit? Highway exit? Yeah. Every exit. Yeah. There'll be a [00:50:00] sign. Uh huh. But, you can see the cameras on the side, they're like a big yellow...
Simon Jackson Turner: So if you see the big yellow box, that's the actual camera, so you got to slow down for those. We're going to walk past one in a minute, there's one in my house.
Michelle Rubinstein: I feel like we saw those signs more than we saw the box. We definitely saw more
Simon Jackson Turner: signs than boxes, that's for sure. Or if you see the um, the lines on the road, so you'll get kind of um, like markers on the road, but they're only about sort of three meters long.
Simon Jackson Turner: In terms of the markers, like the two lengths of a car, basically, which is longer than three meters. I slowed down every time because I was like, I don't want to get surprised by some sort of ticket. I got a letter recently saying I was wanted by Essex police. Essex is the county over. You were wanted?
Simon Jackson Turner: Yeah, wanted to pay a fine. Oh. Because I'd got a speeding ticket visiting my parents. Um, which is the first time, I've never got one before, in like, how long have we been driving? Long, almost [00:51:00] 20 Um, but the ones on the motorway, I don't, they don't get you unless you're going really fast. Like, as in, our speed limit is 70, but I think if you're going, right, like, you can do about 10 percent over the limit and be alright.
Simon Jackson Turner: Can you get a picture of this situation? And like, thank God. Thank goodness. Yeah, that's only 10 percent and you'll be alright.
Michelle Rubinstein: And do vertical, too. Okay. Uh, do you guys learn, did you learn American literature in
Simon Jackson Turner: school? No. Uh, Steinbeck. Oh, okay. Really? Of Mice and Men, yeah. O T H. Oh! Yeah. Cause
Michelle Rubinstein: I was, what were we watching?
Michelle Rubinstein: I think we were watching Gilmore Girls. And, Ant hates Gilmore, well, Ant hates Lorelai. I hate Lorelai.
Simon Jackson Turner: Right. Anyway. And podcasts, teenage dramas, he hates it all. He hates it all. No, he doesn't hate it all. He just hates Keith. You hate Keith. He hates
Michelle Rubinstein: Keith. But, but they were, I was like, I wonder if they learned about American literature.
Michelle Rubinstein: We learned about [00:52:00] Shakespeare and all the other maybes. I don't remember. This is embarrassing.
Simon Jackson Turner: Several others. There's other ones as well, but I can't name any. Steinbeck is one that we get. Steinbeck is one. That we do quite a lot. Okay. It's possible that I did do it. Car. Uh, Dom and I went to different schools and I can't remember.
Simon Jackson Turner: Okay.
Michelle Rubinstein: That's okay. Okay. So. When you guys are traveling, do you say you're from the UK or do you say you're from England? Or is it like, I'm from New York and then I'm from Long Island. Is it like UK, England? It's
Simon Jackson Turner: England, UK. England, UK. Yeah, I'm from England, but England is in the UK. Right, did I say that back?
Simon Jackson Turner: Okay. No, but I, but I never said, I always, if anyone ever asked, I'd say from the UK. I'd never say England. And if they say where, I'd always say just outside London because no one knows. Oh, well. Hertfordshire, right? And I think UK sounds nicer than [00:53:00] England. Right, and
Michelle Rubinstein: so UK, because we were reading about this, UK's country and England.
Simon Jackson Turner: No. Other way around. So England is a country. UK is a collection of countries within the United Kingdom, which is what UK is. Cool. Then it gets more confusing because we're also part of Europe. But we're not part of the EU
Michelle Rubinstein: anymore. That's, well, I said that. I was like, Europe. And Anne's like, well, no, no, no, I'm not.
Michelle Rubinstein: So, as a
Simon Jackson Turner: continent. Right, as a continent!
Michelle Rubinstein: That's what
Simon Jackson Turner: I was like, continents aren't even things really. It's a really abstract concept. Like, what's a continent? You know, that's, that's a whole, Anyway, that's a different thing. That's what I was like, forget continents. It's
Michelle Rubinstein: bullshit. I'm like, no, speaking of school purposes, there are continents.
Simon Jackson Turner: No, they try to teach you stuff, but it's just like these landmasses that have nothing to do with geography. They do, though. I mean, geography has like a concept, but not like borders. I mean, the [00:54:00] UK, I
Michelle Rubinstein: did know that.
Simon Jackson Turner: But Great Britain is made up of England, Wales, Scotland, Northern Ireland and Ireland. Yeah, but we also have Team GB.
Simon Jackson Turner: So like, when we, so some sports, it's Team Great Britain. Other sports, it's England. Yeah. But it's never like a Europe. Like, so it's never like a, that's always, and we're the most, we're the least European country in Europe, I would say. Right, when you go to other European countries, they're... There's some more crossover, so say like, for example, uh, like Hungary, Slovakia, Poland, um, Czech Republic are, their, their, their languages are different, but have a bit of crossover to it, so a bit like how Spanish and Portuguese, I assume, Dom, you could speak better to that, I'm sure, have some crossover to it.
Simon Jackson Turner: Um, so there's some cultural things that are a bit more in sync. Oh, we really have to go, don't we? Uh, but the UK is very much like, separate. [00:55:00] Um, and that's kind of sad really, because that's what all this Brexit stuff is kind of fuelled by. Right. I mean, it's mostly that... So with it, even within the UK, all the countries in the UK hate England.
Simon Jackson Turner: Yeah. So like Scotland hates us, Wales hates us, Northern Ireland pretty much hates us, so. Scotland has been trying to be separate from us for so long. Yeah, a lot of Scotland, yeah. Wow.
Michelle Rubinstein: Yeah. We, we met a sweet older couple when we were in the Cotswolds. They were from Wales and they said they're... Speed limit was just changed to 20 miles per hour.
Michelle Rubinstein: Yeah.
Simon Jackson Turner: Yeah. On like local roads and stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Local roads. Which is like absurdly slow. Yeah. Yeah.
Michelle Rubinstein: Yeah. How do you... How do you read the price at your gas slash petroleum? Petrol
Simon Jackson Turner: station. Do you know how I always find that confusing, Dom? Because it'll be like 156. Yeah, so, [00:56:00] like, it'll be per litre. So it's, it'll be 1.
Simon Jackson Turner: 56 per litre. Oh,
Michelle Rubinstein: I'm like 156. It's a spot
Simon Jackson Turner: that, like, there's no decibel, first of all, and I was like, what is this number? The lack of decibel is frustrating, but yeah, when you... I was like, there should be a decibel, because that would make sense per litre. I knew it was per litre, but I was like, 156 for what?
Simon Jackson Turner: It's, it's pence per litre. And 100 pennies in a pound, you know, usual things. So it's, yeah, it will be 1 pound 56 per litre. Got it. Okay. It's probably almost double in price. Yeah. I'm sure. Yeah, yeah, it's crazy.
Michelle Rubinstein: Alright, my last question. I have a lot of, uh, seems driving vehicle questions. Do you have vanity license plates?
Simon Jackson Turner: We have what's called private license plates So you can pay and have a mixture of letters and numbers that you choose Yeah, to spell out like your name or your pet's name or whatever and then the [00:57:00] more Close to what it actually is the more expensive it would be, you know so like if I had tried to get one with Luna on it from like my dog if it was actually spelled out with the letters it would be like Thousands upon thousands and then people would do things with like numbers like a 7 for yeah I don't know a T or something and that kind of thing 3 is always E, isn't it?
Simon Jackson Turner: Right, there you go. Wow
Michelle Rubinstein: Well, that's all my questions for you guys. And we're getting to a road, so this is like a good time to stop. Thank you! Listen to Ravens! Yeah, thank you. Go Ravens! Woo! Ravens! This has been a Total Betty Podcast. Produced and edited by Michelle Rubinstein and Ilissa Tenio. Music by Anthony Viccora.[00:58:00]