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Seth Holehouse is a TV personality, YouTuber, podcaster, and patriot who became a household name in 2020 after his video exposing election fraud was tweeted, shared, uploaded, and pinned by President Donald Trump — reaching hundreds of millions worldwide.
Titled The Plot to Steal America, the video was created with a mission to warn Americans about the communist threat to our nation—a mission that’s been at the forefront of Seth’s life for nearly two decades.
After 10 years behind the scenes at The Epoch Times, launching his own show was the logical next step. Since its debut, Seth’s show “Man in America” has garnered 1M+ viewers on a monthly basis as his commitment to bring hope to patriots and to fight communism and socialism grows daily. His guests have included Peter Navarro, Kash Patel, Senator Wendy Rogers, General Michael Flynn, and General Robert Spalding.
He is also a regular speaker at the “ReAwaken America Tour” alongside Eric Trump, Mike Lindell, Gen. Flynn.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Holhouse. So you've probably seen the information about the restrict act going around social media, which people are calling the Patriot Act two point o or one of the greatest threats to our freedom that we've seen in our lifetimes, and I have to agree. Now joining us today, though, is attorney Todd Callender to help us make sense of this restrict act and how it will affect us and what it could do, but he also is gonna bring this incredible perspective about why he thinks it's actually gonna fail, and not just the restrict act, but the overall evil agenda. So you're gonna be really enjoying this conversation.
Seth Holehouse:I'm looking forward to sharing it with you. Before we get started, folks, make sure you're following me on social media, in most places, at Man in America, on Twitter, at Man in America US. And every show is done as a podcast as well. So if you'd rather listen, just go to your favorite podcast app and search for Man in America, and you'll find me there. Alright.
Seth Holehouse:Let's jump into this interview with attorney Todd Callender. So, Todd, it is such a pleasure and an honor and just a complete joy to have you back on the Shogun. I always enjoy our conversations and so does the audience. People love whenever you come on. So thank you for coming back on the show today.
Todd Callender:That's really kind of you to say. It's Harding. Thanks to you, Seth. I really appreciate you giving me the chance to do it.
Seth Holehouse:Oh, absolutely. Well, there's a lot to talk about. There's you know, we have the restrict act, which is something that, you know, with your background, you know, as an attorney, I think it's gonna be really helpful to understand what it is. You know, there's but there's also this global chaos. You know, we've got the Ukraine situation continuing to heat up.
Seth Holehouse:You know, NATO's kind of pressuring, you know, Putin into a war as as they hope it seems. But bigger than that, I feel like, is just what's happening with with the US dollar and the de dollarization. And, you know, the but we also have some people in The United States that are, you know, starting to push forward more about returning to a gold standard, which is interesting. So there's a lot of topics to dive into. But how about we start with jumping into this restrict act?
Seth Holehouse:Because this is something that I you kinda saw people sharing it online. I was like, okay, I I see restrict act, you know, kind of popping around different social media posts or different videos. But I started seeing people saying, look, look, this is the Patriot Act two point o. Like, this thing strips our freedoms. And once I started seeing those keywords, I got more concerned.
Seth Holehouse:Tried to look into it to understand it, but I don't understand legalese stuff very well at all. And that's what initially, you know, said, hey, like, let me let me get Todd Callender on because you can help us understand what this is.
Todd Callender:I I hope. I frankly, I think it's a lot of speculation, Seth, because, you know, as I mentioned to you, what was introduced, senate bill six eighty six is, you know, a couple of paragraphs long. It doesn't say a whole lot. There are some things in there that could kinda go either way. It's very broadly written and and seems to focus on a new definition that I haven't seen before.
Todd Callender:They call it information and communications technology. So with this, you know, new definition that they will legislate in such a way that foreign creators or foreign owners, almost more importantly, there will be some restrictions, some teeth in law, including criminal, if they so choose. But it's so broadly drafted at this point that we really have no idea. There's lots of people out there talking about what they think it should look like as a I think six or seven countries are supposedly the target. But the problem with broad legislation without a whole lot of meat on the bone, so to speak, is it can mean anything.
Todd Callender:It's open to interpretation, and my concern is it's open to abuse. That's always been the pattern of our government vis a vis the Patriot Act. Right? That was the Trojan horse. Everybody was afraid.
Todd Callender:Our government has a habit of creating exigent circumstances to create exemptions to the constitution. And here we sit, Seth. We're two some years later, our constitution remains suspended. So, you know, what what does this mean now? Some some new legislation without definition.
Todd Callender:It's it's concerning to me.
Seth Holehouse:And so this initially was really kind of presented as being the the TikTok bill. Right? It was something that they wanted to
Todd Callender:Yeah.
Seth Holehouse:To use to limit TikTok, which I I, you know, I think TikTok is a giant Trojan horse for the CCP to collect our data and influence our children and who knows what else. Not to mention who knows what kind of spyware is on there. So if you have it installed on your phone, who knows what the CCP has access to. But so that was an issue where I saw
Todd Callender:everything.
Seth Holehouse:Exactly. Sorry. Yeah.
Todd Callender:And all of the apps, not just TikTok. Okay. Oh, yeah. Go ahead. So
Seth Holehouse:so what about this what about this particular bill or whatever it is that they're they're putting forward, this restrict act? What about it is so alarming that some people are saying that this is the Patriot Act two point o? Like for someone like me who I live in America. I have a show where I'm communicating. Right?
Seth Holehouse:And I'm, you know, a lot of times I'm communicating and questioning the narrative of the, you know, of the Orwellian government. I don't go along with what they say. And so you could say that I could be a state, you know, an enemy of the state from their perspective. So what would this do? Like, how would that affect a person like me or a neighbor that's on Facebook sharing information that they think is important, for instance?
Todd Callender:So that's exactly where the issue resides. How does one describe, how does one define what is information and communications technology? Does that include the words themselves, or is that just the platform? And because there isn't much of a definition, you have to assume it's going to be the broadest possible application. Some people involved with this legislation are saying they're concerned about the exemptions under Section two thirty for platforms, and this is their idea on how it is they can censor free speech.
Todd Callender:Based on what I see, that means criminally as well as civilly, given that our last president was being persecuted in court right now, we don't have to wonder what their malintent is. You know, they demonstrated, so the propensity for abuse is what's concerning. Having said that, it strikes me as very odd, given our government's move towards globalism over the last couple of decades, that you now see this renewed interest and vigor in protecting national security, or at least that's the pretext, where it seems as though if you had an American made platform, American opinions on that platform, that it would be exempt from the reach of this act because it specifically states foreign made and foreign owned, and it actually states in here including the securities. So if you had, you know, foreign issued securities, something on the Hong Kong exchange, but it was US technology, it would still be captured. So very expansive, and it makes you wonder how many components in all this technology come from wherever: China, Singapore, who knows Russia, Cuba, Iran.
Todd Callender:Doesn't matter. I think it's all encompassing. And so this is really a way to control the information itself as much as the means of communicating.
Seth Holehouse:Do you think that with where it's at right now, once it gets, know, kind of pushed through the judicial system, that it has a chance of actually being implemented? Or do you think that it's, you know, a lot of times also, you do think that there's a good chance this could get pushed through.
Todd Callender:I do. Because there seems to be a unified approach to this in the house, the senate, and even the administration all want this. And I don't think it's about TikTok at all. That's a great excuse. What this is about is controlling the narrative, because people, thanks to you frankly, Seth, and others like you, now understand what the truth is.
Todd Callender:And through these very platforms, right, people are finally figuring it out. They're turning off their TVs, and now they're taking the time to understand what the truth is, which is very different from what the programming says. And I think at the end of the day, this is designed to shut us up, to stop exactly what it is you and I are doing right now.
Seth Holehouse:Which is not good. All right, that's the
Todd Callender:No, it's not good.
Seth Holehouse:It's the precursor to, you know, I mean, communist China, Soviet Russia, the the silence of the dissident voices. And so, I mean, so so do you think that, I guess what's the timeline of this? Like, because I don't really know, like, know the basic legal process that these things go through to, you know, the judiciary process. So where are we at with this? What can we do to fight back against this?
Todd Callender:Yeah. Well, okay. So first and foremost, given the broad based support between both the Senate and the House, it looks to me like this is gonna go pretty quick. Everybody's on board. They're gonna put in whatever their extra pork belly is and God knows what else.
Todd Callender:It's I can tell you this. The law, when they finish, isn't gonna be, you know, one page. It's gonna be voluminous because like the Patriot Act, think tanks have already done all the legislation. Right? They've already written this up and they just wait for the right moment in time.
Todd Callender:And then here it is. You look at the Patriot Act. It was thousands of pages long. It was introduced a couple days after nine eleven because it had been sitting on the shelf for years. I can assure you this has also been sitting on the shelf for years.
Todd Callender:So when they get the opinion of the important people, decision makers in both houses to get on board, it's going to happen. And everything else with it will go, because they've already made the process easy. And I guess the second part of your question is what is the impact of that? How quickly would it get implemented, as fast as they can get it, you know, within six months or a year, I would assume, because they're losing the narrative. They have to get this through.
Todd Callender:They've got to shut you up. They've got to shut me and everybody else up. It's, know, showing people what is actually the truth, what is really happening. By way of example, I saw from one of our friends, a retired general officer who's leading the way on a lot of these things. For the first time, I I'm seeing a call for a ceasefire in Ukraine and Russia based on the truth, the real narrative, which is that NATO has been pushing Russia into this exchange, hopefully a nuclear exchange in their world, for a long time, and that this is actually a Russian territory with Russia doing a police action more than anything.
Todd Callender:And so to see leadership, well known leadership coming out and finally saying this is the truth. That's what's driving this Restrict Act. It's right in the name, right? They want to restrict you and me and others like the good general from being able to raise an army, you know? And in this particular case, I think the army is actually the whole of mankind.
Seth Holehouse:I agree with that. And so just as an example, right, so one of the things that I've talked a lot about, for instance, is the vaccine. Now obviously the government, if you look at their coordination, their control over Twitter, which we've now seen exposed through the Twitter files that they have a very strong interest in controlling the narrative about the vaccine and censoring any voices that question the vaccine. But we can see now that it's really hitting critical mass of a lot of people really questioning it. They're losing as you mentioned, they're losing control of the narrative.
Seth Holehouse:So let's just say that they passed this, this this act, and I bring on, you know, Doctor. Peter McCullough, for instance. And he says, yeah, according to our data, we're seeing a six hundred thousand percent increase in myocarditis since the vaccines come out. And we put that video up on Rumble and obviously not YouTube, the different platforms. What control would and I know it's it's still it's kind of murky at this point, but what control would you expect this act would give them at that point?
Seth Holehouse:And how do you think they would respond if I was deemed to be someone that was a target?
Todd Callender:Oh, they'll shoot first and ask questions later. Undoubtedly. You know, when a law is so broad and not narrowly defined, the scope is enormous. All they need is a pretext. It's something there will have to be, according to the way this is written, some foreign influence, whether that's, you know, the technology itself or you.
Todd Callender:Did you have somebody, you know, invest in your company from outside The United States? Really an interesting paradigm because we are all so interconnected in this world now. And in terms of, you know, censorship and shutting you down, it's already happening. I know for a fact. I personally have been shadow banned on Rumble.
Todd Callender:So they're hitting all of them. It's not just YouTube anymore. Understand the same goes for Bitchute. They are so worried about this paradigm, that the truth is actually getting out, that it's by hook or by crook that they will shut us up.
Seth Holehouse:And how would that manifest? Would it just be that some guys in black suits show up at the door one day? Or I mean
Todd Callender:Yes. So this is the, jurisdiction is granted to the US Department of Commerce, and so that doesn't sound, you know, that scary, to to begin with, but I will have you know, because I actually worked for the Department of Commerce in law school, they have law enforcement powers. And what's fascinating about Commerce Department, their law enforcement, is they have extraterritorial application of US law through something called IEPA, the International Economic Emergency Powers Act, which is in effect right now. So effectively, the US Department of Commerce, if they had a criminal case, they could pursue it, and they could actually do a civil asset forfeiture proceeding extraterritorially. They could go and take the assets of a foreign company for violating US law in practical matters.
Todd Callender:So they won't waste any time on it. They're a law enforcement agency just like the FBI is, and, you know, they'll do it, undoubtedly.
Seth Holehouse:How can we do we have any power to stop this? I mean, is there anything that we
Todd Callender:can we
Seth Holehouse:can do collectively to to I mean, because I, you know, I watched as an example, I watched an interview with, think it was Lindsey Graham was on Jesse Waters recently. And Jesse Waters, I'm not sure if saw it, he was like saying, this is this I think he called it garbage. But he said this is this restrict act is gonna be like Patriot Act two point o. It's gonna demolish our And and he goes and I think that Lindsey Graham was not not one of the sponsors, but he was one of the people that was involved with it. And he was like, what do you think about this Lindsey Graham?
Seth Holehouse:And Lindsey Graham was like he had no idea what was going on. And he was like, oh, no. He was like, oh, I I don't really know. I'll have to take a look at it. I didn't know it was that bad.
Seth Holehouse:It sounds pretty bad. So is this something that I mean, look. We know that the the dark forces, they Trojan horse as much as possible. So, I mean, if if people across the nation start contacting their representatives and saying, look, this is what this is, is there power in that?
Todd Callender:Yeah. There is. Educating, because what you said is exactly right. They're all like that, by the way. You know, people have this concept that the US legislature, you know, has staff in there drafting out all these laws.
Todd Callender:That's not how it works. There are think tanks full of lawyers that do nothing but draft legislation, and then they give it to a senator or the congressman along with a couple of dollars to get it passed. That's how our system really works, so it's no surprise at all that Lindsey Graham didn't know what was in the bill. All he knows is he's getting paid. And frankly, that's all that matters to him.
Todd Callender:So I think you're absolutely right. If they are the the people in positions of power, the decision makers in our government become aware of what this really is, and if they can come to understand that this affects them too, because it does and it will. Right? How many of them are foreign owned, for example? How many of them are using foreign technology?
Todd Callender:I can assure you it's most all of them. So the answer is this will equally apply to them too. And if I was a special agent in the Department of Commerce, that's where I'd be looking for a criminal prosecution. If we can educate them how dangerous this is to have something so broadly drafted, with no clear intent, what exactly is this about? And, yeah, call and really most importantly, Seth, no more.
Todd Callender:Americans have to stand. In fact, everybody all over the world have to stand to your government and say no more. You no longer have my consent to be governed. And when we demonstrate that to them, then they have to pay attention. And I see the state national movement in The United States is now more than 25,000,000 people who have turned in their ticket and said, I am not going to pay tax anymore.
Todd Callender:I am no longer a piece of collateral of the Federal Reserve. So when when there's 50,000,000 people doing that, our government's gonna take notice.
Seth Holehouse:Yeah. I mean, even I heard you mention recently, I think it was on an interview with SGT, where you mentioned that figure, 25,000,000. And because I had interviewed Ann Vandersteel probably almost a year ago about the the state national movement and and but to hear you say, you know, I mean, 25,000,000, that's approaching 10% of the population. Like, that's a that's a
Todd Callender:significant number. And it's growing a million a month. Wow. That's how fed up Americans are. We're not taking it anymore, and God love them.
Todd Callender:You know, I know Anna Counter is a friend, and she is leading the way with a whole lot of other people. You know, it's not about the money. It's about the principles. They want our country back. They want our republic back.
Todd Callender:And I think we can do that. And I think part of that process, maybe the most important thing, is going to the law enforcement guys I just made reference to, whether they're in the Department of Commerce or anywhere else, they need to understand what's happening. We have to educate them first. And then along with that comes the people who theoretically make decisions, the ones who are paid to say yes.
Seth Holehouse:Yeah, that makes sense. So I want to just take some time now and take a take a step back and look at the bigger picture. This is what I appreciate with talking to you, is that you're not just an attorney, you've got such a wide range of topics that you have knowledge on that you also can kind of piece together and string together to help us figure out where we're at. Because what I'm seeing is that obviously, we've, you know, Trump was just indicted, which shows, yeah, it's it's expected almost knowing the people that are in charge, but it's a complete abuse. I mean, this is, you know, Stalin had his his political opponents arrested.
Seth Holehouse:You know, this is something that you would only see in a country that's really on the edge of totalitarian control. But, you know, simultaneously, what you have happening is something I've been focusing a lot on is countries around the world dumping the US dollar. They're now saying that, you know, the biggest being Saudi Arabia, you know, which is really undoing the Bretton Woods agreement, which, you know, for a lot of people that I've talked to, and in my own opinion as well, like, we're knee I believe that we're nearing the end of the Federal Reserve note that they call the US dollar. Right? And That's right.
Seth Holehouse:When that ends, this isn't like Venezuela's currency collapsing, which probably affects Venezuela and a few kind neighboring countries. Alright, folks. I got a quick message for you. As you'll see in our conversation with attorney Todd Callender, the state of the dollar is really in a crisis right now, and we have to be really looking out for what happens. So if you've got assets, if you have a lot of your personal wealth sitting in the dollar, meaning in the stock market, in a four zero one k, in a savings account, even, you know, as cash under your mattress.
Seth Holehouse:If the dollar really loses its value, which all the indicators are pointing towards that, then the value of that entirety of your wealth will also be lost. This is what hyperinflation is. This is what happens when a currency collapses. And I don't wanna be a fearmonger, but I really believe that we are on that precipice. And so look, I also encourage you to do your own research.
Seth Holehouse:I'm not a financial adviser. But for me personally, I just see with Todd as well, taking that those assets and moving them into hard assets like precious metals, also real estate, food, ammunition, etcetera. But for me, one of the big ones is precious metals, especially silver, is one of the best things that you can do, especially considering that the currencies like the BRICS, you know, potential world reserve currency, the BRICS stations are rolling out, they're talking about them being backed by commodities like gold, like silver, which will certainly stabilize and probably greatly increase the value of gold and silver in the future. If you wanna protect yourself and protect yourself financially for whatever's coming, I highly recommend moving at least some of your wealth into physical gold and silver. And if you want someone that you can trust with that, I highly recommend doctor Kirk Elliott.
Seth Holehouse:So Kirk Elliott is a strong Christian patriot. He's got a very wonderful company. You can call up and get an appointment with an advisor, or you can go to goldwithseth.com. You can go so again, goldwithseth.com, fill out this simple form. You scroll down to the bottom here.
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Todd Callender:You were saying what about the will it be the currency collapse like Venezuela? Well, answer is, yeah.
Seth Holehouse:Will be. Because it's not gonna be Venezuela, but Venezuela was just Venezuela. I mean, you've got countries all over the world that are really kind of they're holding so much US dollar because the the Venezuelan currency, just like the Weimar Republic or Zimbabwe, those weren't the world reserve currencies. Like, we're looking at the collapse of a world reserve currency. So, I mean, is this something that you're focusing on, or what are you what are your thoughts about Boy,
Todd Callender:yes. Absolutely. Yes. You know, and I've lived through in in my life, in my international life, the destruction of four different currencies corresponding economies. I've seen it firsthand, including the Bolivar in Venezuela.
Todd Callender:It used to be a market that I worked a lot in, and obviously I spent time in Cuba. And in Poland, I saw the Zwadi, where they had to chop off three zeros at the end, including Congo. I saw the Congoese Zaire also fade away, so this is not new to me. The answer is yes. For many months now, we have been trading out those little pieces of paper that we call cash.
Todd Callender:Those are actually negotiable instruments. And while we are able to get something in return for them, we've been trading them out for hard assets, which translates into precious metals and real estate. As long as somebody's willing to accept this medium of exchange, that's great. The problem is that you have Janet Yellen and other members of the FDIC, they're on hot mics and actually talking about it openly, as is Jamie Dimon, that they are anticipating a default on the interest payment to the Federal Reserve. So when that happens, what happens to the value of these negotiable debt instruments in our pocket?
Todd Callender:And the answer is they go down. By how much, we don't know. What I will say, again, living outside The United States, doing business outside The United States for thirty years. You know, there are two types of dollars that float around outside The United States. The Eurodollar, which is really transactional, when we write contracts, we denominate them in US dollars, they're called Eurodollars.
Todd Callender:There's also the Petrodollar, right, which the at the end of the day, The US currency was supported by the value of oil because all nations traded oil in in dollars. So that was the petrodollar. That is gone. Both of those were gone. Right now, we're seeing contracts denominated in a variety of currencies, including Swiss francs.
Todd Callender:I haven't seen any in Yuan lately, but I understand that they're happening. And the IMF has recently moved to something they call monetary gold. It used to be that they they were trying to bring in this one world government and a one world currency called the crypto SDR. The SDR is special drawing rights. That's the currency, the IMF, and it was a basket of currencies is how they arrived at it, including yen and ruble and everything else you can imagine.
Todd Callender:And now they're moving away from that, trading their paper notes for gold when they make loans to countries. They're requiring 15% of those loans to be repaid in physical gold. So the whole world is moving to the gold standard. And now a couple days ago, you see in our government finally, you know, waking up and spilling the coffee, hey. We should probably tie the dollar to to gold.
Todd Callender:Well, probably you should have never undone it. So we're we're there, Seth. The only question now is how bad will it go for the US dollar? And my concern is this. The day is here, and the reason for that is JPMorgan has a bunch of shorts.
Todd Callender:In fact, I think it's most in the world against the the, gold. So the spot price on gold. As gold increases in value, they would be put in something called a short squeeze. That means that they're gonna have to go out and buy expensive gold to replace cheaper options. The the sad part about it is JPMorgan used to have reserves, physical gold reserves, that they could meet those shorts and somebody stole them and replaced them with rocks.
Todd Callender:J. V. Morgan is a systemic bank. It's one of three systemic banks in The United States. When that one has that kind of contagion, it's in fact insolvent, that will spread to every other systemic bank.
Todd Callender:Goldman Sachs, Citi, you name them, Bank of America, they're all there. It will have that effect on the entire system. So there really isn't any going back at this point. Gold hit $2.30 yesterday, if memory serves. It's it's on the way up, every time that does, the the precipice, you know, it gets closer.
Todd Callender:It's only a question of how bad it's gonna be.
Seth Holehouse:And, I mean, looking at, say, Weimar Republic for instance, you know, once a currency starts spiraling out of control, then you have people trying to get out of currency as quickly as possible, which then spirals it further out of control. And that's one of my concerns globally. And I know there's people like Steve Quaylor, Mike Adams have talked about Operation Sandman. Right? Which is the idea that all of these countries, you know, over a hundred countries already have this agreement that they'll all dump their dollars at the same time.
Seth Holehouse:Right? Because
Todd Callender:Yeah. They haven't done that, though.
Seth Holehouse:They haven't yet. They haven't yet. But, like, if that if that were to happen
Todd Callender:They're they're exiting all of their positions, and they have been for more than a year. Right? It's it's so it's interesting that they don't have an interest in destroying The US that way. I think The US is on its own self destruction path, but the answer is, you look at the buying and selling of Chinese in particular, they've been dumping their treasuries for a while now. Everybody has, They've all moved look at Russia, they moved to 5,000 rubles to a gram of gold already.
Todd Callender:What happened? The strength of the ruble went up, and now everybody wants to do business with Russia. So I think that that's all working itself out in terms of exchanging, you know, various T bills and whatever to to other things. I don't think it's going to be all at once. And and there's one other mitigating factor to that.
Todd Callender:And that is, if you look at the world securities markets, The US has the biggest exchanges in the world. Most all the companies that are, you know, Fortune fifties or even Fortune 1,000 companies, those are US listed companies, and they are denominated. They're base currency. They're valued in US dollars. That's not gonna unwind overnight.
Todd Callender:The big multinationals have the ability to change their base currency to the to other places where they have operations. But there's a whole lot of US companies that cannot do that. So this can't this can't unwind that easily, And I think that's why you'll you'll have to see this as a little bit more of a gentle decline than than the cliff.
Seth Holehouse:It's like what you mentioned before, how you're moving your kind of, you know, your dollars into hard assets. Is that I mean, is that kind of how you see the bridge to whatever comes next? Whether it's a bricks, you know, currency, whatever it is that it's like it's almost like you have these assets and we're used to it's funny because we're used to measuring our assets in dollars. Right? Like, well, I've got a hundred thousand dollars in the bank.
Seth Holehouse:Well, it's like, what does that mean? Maybe that's 10 acres of land in this region. Maybe that's, you know, what is it? How many ounces of gold. Right?
Seth Holehouse:You're looking at it and saying that, you know, moving that asset into something like say, gold or land or real estate will then kind of pull it out of the whatever the trajectory is of the of the actual dollar as a Federal Reserve note. Right?
Todd Callender:I think that's right. And I think there are other safe havens as well. This base currency issue is a big one for all of these companies. It's not easy just to change your base currency. What would you change it to?
Todd Callender:Right? If if the US dollar collapses and you made reference to this, what would you so dominate, you know, what won? My sense is that boils down to an analysis of banking practices, and, we've been looking at Canada pretty carefully because they have really good banking practices. They didn't violate, you know, their form of Glass Steagall. Banks do banking.
Todd Callender:Brokerage houses do brokerage. And that's where everything really went wrong in The US economy, is when banks became broker dealers and speculated proprietarily. My point in saying all this is that there are flight currencies. People will find a way they always do, whether it's gold or whatever they'll find a way to exchange goods and services through an agreed media. My real concern about this is the intentions of our government when you hear Janet Yellen openly talking about defaulting on the treasury or I'm sorry, defaulting on the interest payments to the Fed.
Todd Callender:They have the central bank digital currency called the Fed coin. It's sitting right there, ready to launch any moment, and I fear that that's what they'll do when they talk about, you know, tying things to gold. That's a bunch of lip service. What they really want to do is force everybody into programmable currency, and as long as there is competition, we're golden because people will find a way. They'll buy whatever it is they need to buy not to have Central Bank Digital Currency, and they'll exchange them.
Todd Callender:And I'm very, very plussed about that because I see a lot of people that have figured this out, and they've been preparing for this for a long time. I mean, Americans, a couple, three years, they've been ready for this.
Seth Holehouse:So and that's that's encouraging. That's also my perspective as well. And and a lot of folks I've talked to have brought the same perspective in saying that, you know, say they roll out this central bank digital currency. Yes. A lot of the population is just going to say, okay.
Seth Holehouse:You know? Sure. You know? So will my EBT card still, you know, work? It's like, oh, yeah.
Seth Holehouse:You're using your digital tokens instead of your your dollar amount. But also I I think there's a lot of people, you know, we're seeing it. Like, I think even with looking at the vaccine uptake where I think that you were saying you think it's less than 40%. You know, they're lying and saying it's it's above that, that going back to the original thing you're talking about, they're losing control of the narrative. Yep.
Seth Holehouse:And that's the greatest threat. Right? Because this is fifth duration warfare. It's it's warfare. It's of information of psychological operations.
Seth Holehouse:And like us doing this right now, this is the equivalent of, you know, say two hundred years ago, you and I saying, you know what? Hey, hey, Todd. Hey, Seth. Let's get a gun and go fight. You know, let's go let's go defend our families.
Seth Holehouse:Really, like, this is that's what's what this is. Right? So you can see how that's the concern because, and this is why I've been really kind of pounding on the whole idea of central bank digital currency is that I want more people to be aware of it and more people to be thinking, what are the steps I can do to avoid being stuck in that trap? Where one day you wake up and they say, your accounts with JPMorgan are now frozen. The dollar we had we had to put a pause to to trading on the stock market as the dollars, you know, free falling, and we're gonna convert all of your assets into this kind of digital token that we have full control over.
Seth Holehouse:To me, that's the, like, we're to avoid that at all costs?
Todd Callender:Yes. Yes, we do. You're absolutely right about that. And I think that we're making really good progress in that that field. You know, it's funny that the the treasury was taking out something like a half a trillion dollars of cash each week out over the last month or so.
Todd Callender:And now what you're seeing is in ATMs, old bills. I mean, it may seem strange and and and not particularly important, what it what it does show you is there's mattress money. And I've seen this, I mean, firsthand. Funny enough, when I was in Poland, the the Russians had just left. I was part of a law firm launching the Polish stock exchange, and that year it went 1800% the very first year.
Todd Callender:Why? Because mattress money came out. People had coins and they had gold and they had currencies from all over the world, and the banks were willing to accept them, and guess what? Or the brokerage houses accepted them. Everybody got liquid, everybody made money, and I see that as a possibility here too.
Todd Callender:I see this as a possible revival because you know what? People are smarter than we give them credit for. They they are more prepared than the government gives them credit for, and these dire predictions and the, you know, sky is falling in thing. Everybody already heard that with COVID. They were lied to.
Todd Callender:Right? So our officials, as they call them, have lost their credibility, and I think that's wonderful. And again, thanks in no small part to yourself.
Seth Holehouse:Yeah. I'm a little bit of a thorn in their side, but that's probably a good thing. I want to be a thorn in the side of Satan. Right? What I'm the energy I get from you is not one of being fearful and stressed.
Seth Holehouse:It's actually one of
Todd Callender:That's right.
Seth Holehouse:We're gonna get through this. And so, you know but when I look when I look at what's happening and I see what's happening with the dollar, and I see the, you know, the the Klaus Schwab and the CCP and all these different things kinda sitting there waiting, but then also looking at the Fed coin, the Fed now system, and all this is being ready to roll out. So I I believe that they will attempt to carry out these plans. Right? So but but you seem pretty confident, though, that they will fail in the attempt.
Seth Holehouse:Right?
Todd Callender:Yeah, I'm almost certain of it. And then the reason for that is you look at what happened with the military, the Covid mandate, 400,000 people said no, we're not going with the program. That's what stopped the whole DOD vaxx thing. So, you know, there was a lot of us sued, and and that was fine. But what really stopped it was everybody saying, no.
Todd Callender:Take a hike. And I think that that's exactly what you are going to see again When they when they unleash their new Marburg bug, right, because that's what they seem to be doing now, and we know they spent the Marburg money already from the PrEP Act, people are less afraid now. They know that there are drugs that can treat this. They're not quaking anymore. They're not going to be so easily fooled again.
Todd Callender:And I think people will find, as it relates to our economy, accept mutually agreeable mediums of exchange, and things will happen. And this is really an opportunity, Seth. This is the way I see it. This is an opportunity for us all to say, okay, no more. We're taking the republic back.
Todd Callender:All of you idiots that got us here in the first place, You know, there's a there's a jail over there you can wait in until we get around to trying you, and we take back our country. And I mean that in a lot of ways, not just The United States Of America. It's really got to be contagious, and we're seeing it little by little if you look at what's happening in France and other countries. The Kazakhs already did it. I think this is humanity, uniting, and I think this is humanity arising, And it just needs this little straw on the proverbial Campbell's back.
Seth Holehouse:So it's almost like, you know, the elites, this goes back to Art of War. Right? When you're weak, look strong. When you're strong, look weak. It when you watch a video of say, Claus Schwab or any these characters, it feels like, oh my gosh, like it could be overwhelming.
Seth Holehouse:You know, it feels like the these evil Bond characters, they've got this intricate plan. And the more especially people that just woke up, you know, from from COVID, the more they dig into it, it's like, oh my gosh, there's the bloodlines. And this goes back to the Khazarians. It goes back, you know, hundreds of years or thousands of years. It's overwhelming and you feel like we're doomed.
Seth Holehouse:But actually, like, and this is why it's so refreshing with, you know, speaking with you is that that yes, potentially. Right? They've got these intricate plans. But was Trump getting in in 2016 part of their plan? No.
Seth Holehouse:Was, you know, media companies like the Epoch Times, which is now, I think, eclipsing the New York Times in their size and reach. Sure is. It's not controlled by the deep state. Was that part of their plan? No.
Seth Holehouse:Right? Was the people like yourself or me or, you know, Sean with SGT report, people that are using their digital systems to get the truth out, right, that using their weapons against them, did they plan for that? They probably thought they'd have a lot more control. Basically, your sense is that we're witnessing that we're at the end days of the demonic corrupt cabal. We're not at the end days of human humankind.
Seth Holehouse:We're at the end days of this the ruling of this evil that's on earth that's been in charge for a long time.
Todd Callender:They didn't get us the first time. They needed a 75% uptake on those shots, they got nowhere near that. So they've they've shot their bullets, and now they're desperate. They have to finish the job of the genocide, and they will not be able to do that. And you can see, mutually exclusive things.
Todd Callender:So you can't have a one world government if there's another government saying, no, I'm not going along with the program. So isn't that exactly what Russia did? No, we're we're not gonna be a part and they created competition. You know, the best part about about Earth, about life, about humanity is competition, because it brings us a better result. Right?
Todd Callender:If that's in the animal kingdom, plant kingdom, or or humans. Every time there's an opportunity to compete, the best result wins. And that's what I'm saying to you is there's way too many options out there and people will figure it out.
Seth Holehouse:I mean, it's really, it's encouraging. The other thing too is that I read recently, it was an article, I forget where it was at, someone's Substack, and but it was an article about prepping, and they're saying that the good news is that if you're still, it's even doing a little bit of prepping, you're gonna get through this. Right? It's basically like if you've done any small amount of prepping, you will survive. And, you know, though I think there's a much more bigger, more broader, say, divine plan for these things.
Seth Holehouse:Because it's like, well, know the elites are the ones that have bunkers all over and they've got, you know, a thousand years worth of food set aside, etc. I
Todd Callender:think
Seth Holehouse:that the people that are watching this, the people that have families that are listening, we see what's coming. And actually, there's more and more people that do. Like, even you've got, you know, like people like Tucker Carlson talking about a lot of these issues on on mainstream media. They can't hide it anymore. And there's this there really is this mass awakening of people that are taking the steps.
Todd Callender:Said it. They can't hide it anymore. I mean, do you really think Fox News likes to have Tucker talking about this? They don't have a choice. They're getting bypassed.
Todd Callender:You say it yourself, Epoch Times, they're rolling, man. So their choice is to either take some of this content and try and attract some viewers back, or put into the dustbin of history. They have no choice. We're winning this information war. Hands down, by the way, and the best thing, Seth, out of all of it, I really mean this sincerely, is seeing people find their relationship with God.
Todd Callender:People finding their spirituality, finding what is good and right inside of them, is just a refreshing thing and I'm just so happy to see it. I see it all around me.
Seth Holehouse:Yeah. That's that's also an amazing part of this. Actually, just recently, JP Sears put out a video that went really viral about, you know, because he was much more into a lot of the New Age stuff, and that basically through this whole process, he found God. And you're seeing that that's true. There's so many people.
Seth Holehouse:It's like when they say that, you know, there's no atheists in foxholes. Right? And I think that when we live a really comfortable life and nothing's bothered and you feel like you're gonna live forever and you'll be healthy forever, you know, a lot of people, it's easy to not think about the afterlife, not think about what happens when you But I think that part of it is the, you know, the kind of reality and the fragility of life that came about through experiencing COVID and the pandemic. And even people thinking they're gonna die if they if they contract this, so they're washing their hands every three minutes. And, you know, that I think will help bring people to that place.
Seth Holehouse:And yeah, you're seeing this. You are seeing a revival. You're seeing a lot of people that are finding God, not just finding God, but they're finding morality again. They're they're saying, I don't want go along with this. Like, I don't want to be part of what Hollywood or the music industry want me to be part of.
Seth Holehouse:Like, I want to get back to, I wanna have more kids and strengthen my relationship with my wife and build my community and move out of the big liberal city and get a little bit of farmland and raise some chickens. And you're seeing that that what's happening is almost as if they're trying to crush us with this really satanic communist globalism. And they're trying to crush national sovereignty and everything. But what's happening is that in that process, they're weakening, they're crumbling, but what's rising up is the inverse of that. What's rising up is local economies, sovereignty people, know, kind of, you know, getting back to their tribes again.
Seth Holehouse:It's an amazing thing to be part of, isn't it?
Todd Callender:It really is. Is it what a wonderful time to be alive? You know, six months, maybe a year ago, I really didn't think we were gonna survive this. I had very serious doubts because there were so many modalities of death that have been created. Whether that's optogenetics, the shots, five gs, fine nuclear exchange with Vladimir, you know, it's not working.
Todd Callender:Something has really changed, Seth, and then just what you said, there's some morality coming back. People are finding a moral compass and I think that's actually the key to the whole thing. And you know the best part about it? Is when you believe in a higher power, you don't fear death. Right?
Todd Callender:You don't fear living life. Live it to its fullest, you don't have to worry about it, your soul is safe. And it's a wonderful way to live, and that's really what I'm seeing. People smiling and people not being afraid all the time. That's just a beautiful thing.
Seth Holehouse:And so, gosh, I couldn't agree more with that. And that's what allows me to rest peacefully at night, right, regardless of what kind of target I've got on. And so, you know, going back to the the discussion about the Restrict Act, how do you think that fits into all this? Because you can see that, yes, there's this massive inertia of good. And so do you think that is just another last ditch effort to control what they can't control anymore?
Seth Holehouse:So do you think that even if they put it in place, they're not gonna be able to really enact it?
Todd Callender:They are invalidating themselves. You know, and I shared with you a legal action that we're going to bring that will demonstrate that, that their authority is invalid to begin with. And all they're doing is proving the point when you put out a one page bill that says nothing, and that's going to be law, what kind of credibility does that establish? Right? And nobody agreed to it anyway, those Russia threw.
Todd Callender:So it's like everything else. We've been living under, effectively presidential fiat for the last couple of years, thanks to the declaration of national emergency in 02/2020, our rights have been suspended and people are tired of that. They know that their rights are suspended. They know that they're always on shaky ground or thin ice when it relates to the government. They see their president, who they voted for or even didn't vote for, being prosecuted for nothing.
Todd Callender:All these people in power are doing is proving our point and validating themselves. They cannot put this genie back in the bottle. It's too late.
Seth Holehouse:I agree. And so I was at a gun store recently, I was talking to the owner of the local store I go to, and I was asking you how's business been? And she's like, through the roof. She was just like, like, really, I mean, since COVID, it was, there's been ups and downs, obviously, but they're seeing so many first time gun owners come in. They're just their business is just going incredible.
Seth Holehouse:Ammunition sales are through the roof. And, you know, a lot of people, I think and again, it's not about, you know, you be becoming violent. I think it's about people No. Of course. Learning, like, this is what the second amendment is about.
Seth Holehouse:Like, look at, you know, look at go watch some old documentaries on, you know, the the brown shirts or the red guards or, you know, the Bolshevik revolution. Go look at what what would have happened. It's like what Solstice and Houston said.
Todd Callender:That's right.
Seth Holehouse:If if they would have stood there at the doorway with a fire poker, you know, if even they did that, they could have potentially stopped.
Todd Callender:Even that.
Seth Holehouse:You know what I mean? And so you think about that. I think that the elites know this. Think that they're they're freaking out because they've been trying to take our guns away for decades. But they had this beautiful brilliance, what I think is divinely inspired of our constitution, the Declaration of Independence that they can't, they can't defeat it.
Seth Holehouse:They're trying and they're trying and they're trying, but they can't. It's a nut that they cannot crack.
Todd Callender:It's a no go. Yeah, you're right. And, you know, I think it may be that that small act of owning a firearm gives people a level of independence and self sufficiency that they didn't have before. You see people go into the Burger King drive thru, their order is wrong. What do they do?
Todd Callender:Call 911? Come and arrest this person for the wrong burger. But that actually happens, and when you speak to society going away from that, that's dependence. Going to, no, I'll defend myself, I don't need the burger cops to come today, that's a big move in the right direction, and I think you're absolutely right. And of course our nation was founded that way, to the foresight of our forefathers.
Todd Callender:I pray that that that comes back in style in other countries, and I've heard as such. Bolsonaro did it briefly in Brazil and tried to rearm his his populace because an armed society is a polite society. You don't get to abuse them so easily. Anyway, I'm I'm certainly grateful for it. I'm happy to hear that anytime I hear about people going and getting their own guns, it makes me very pleased.
Seth Holehouse:Yeah. Me me too. Me too. And so, you know, for the folks that are watching it, like, it's kind of funny, I guess I'll make a comment because as before we got into this conversation, I was I was researching the PrEP Act, and I'm thinking, okay, there's all this stuff going on that's pretty negative. And I'm thinking, maybe this is gonna be a little more of a serious conversation with Todd, and we're gonna be digging into the threat to our sovereignty and the threats to our freedoms.
Seth Holehouse:Somehow, yeah, on the other side of this, I'm like excited as ever for the future. Like, you know what? Yeah, we're gonna win this. They're not gonna stop. And I had this renewed energy to just keep to keep going with what we're doing, keep fighting the good fight.
Todd Callender:Not cool.
Seth Holehouse:You know, it just it's it's beautiful what can come out of these conversations.
Todd Callender:Yeah, it really is. And you bring that out too, Seth, you really do. You've this wonderful spirit shines through. It it it breeds that whole air of of hope. Actually, hope springs eternal, doesn't it?
Todd Callender:So I I appreciate it very much. And, yeah, you know what? I think we're always going to be running into these same kinds of people. They're always going to be hitting you in one way or another, and and that's okay. We just have to get better at dealing with it.
Todd Callender:And the most important thing is, not to be afraid. We'll handle this, right? We're gonna do it. Humans. God built us this way.
Seth Holehouse:Yeah. And so for the folks that are watching or listening and that are, you know, concerned about, you know, their savings, their house, their children, the future, food, whatever, what would your advice be to them? Like, what would you say to to help them kind of calm down and take some rational steps to protecting themselves?
Todd Callender:Yeah. Well, like I said to you, we've been using those little pieces of paper to buy anything that has actual value, and I think that's worth doing if that's real estate, maybe it's precious metals, maybe it's food as you indicated, I think ammunition and guns go a long way too. Anything of value that people will trade, and that's how we take back, you know, our own sovereignty is through the the barter system. I mean, you look at our our nation, how it was founded and people were able to settle the West. It wasn't done with the Fed coin.
Todd Callender:You know? It wasn't it wasn't even done with the US dollar by itself. People found a way. It's that pioneer spirit. And I would say the other part about this, it's really important, because there's so many people that have come to America, and they're looking for the same dream.
Todd Callender:Right? Millions and millions of them, and yep, they came across the border illegally. And you know what? There's not a damn thing we can do about it at this moment. The best thing we can do is turn them into Americans.
Todd Callender:It's the American mentality, the American spirit that pioneer, we can do this. We'll don't worry. We'll solve it. It's that thing that needs to be installed in these very same people. We need them as allies, as fellow humans, as fellow Americans, not as enemies.
Todd Callender:So find a way, open a conversation, teach them how to be a good American, please.
Seth Holehouse:What? Yeah. What an important point. What an important point, actually. Because yeah, you're right.
Seth Holehouse:They're here. Right? We can't go around all these people up because, you know, that they could be the ones protecting us. The future. That's right.
Seth Holehouse:It's, I mean, it's the same thing too. Then this is why I try to really come back to. This is why I really try to avoid, you know, in my interviews, I I don't I don't like talking and saying the Libtards and using these defamatory things because it's like, well, those are our fellow Americans. I know they've been deceived, but Yes. Our mission should be saying, look, I'm not right.
Seth Holehouse:You're not left. Like, we're American and we're, like, we're being threatened by tyranny right now. So how can we band together? It's like, you don't like Trump? Fine.
Seth Holehouse:That's great. Who cares? Exactly. Let's see what we can agree on. Like, do you like your freedom?
Seth Holehouse:Do you wanna be able to send your kids to a school and have them receive a healthy education? I think that actually we have so much more in common. Whether you're black or white or straight or gay or rich or poor, we have so much more in common as human beings that value freedom and just want, you know, want love and kindness and community than we have apart. But what the elites and what the evil people want us to think is that we're so different that we have to fight each other. But actually
Todd Callender:That's right.
Seth Holehouse:We, like, we have what's in common. The people that we're different from are the the billionaires sitting in their yachts plotting how to, you know, collapse the company's economy. Those are the ones that we have something different from.
Todd Callender:The seed of Cain, as I understand it. You know, if you take one step up from that, I think you've got it exactly, it's that we are all God's creation. Right? We are all the children of God. It's not just about Americans.
Todd Callender:If you like the American spirit and you want to build it, come to America. But, you know, there's a lot of other wonderful places on this planet to travel around to, they're people too, in every way. Humans are humans, and it's just a beautiful thing. So what you said is focus on our similarities, not on our differences.
Seth Holehouse:Absolutely. Well, I think this this is a it's a it's a beautiful message to conclude with. And I'll tell folks that are watching or listening, if if this was an inspiring discussion, please share it. Right? This is because this is this is information war.
Seth Holehouse:If you can get five people to listen to or watch this, I think is what it does is when I'm walking away with this is actually helps bring hope back in. And I think that's one of the the missing things right now for a lot of people is just some sort of hope for the future. And I think if we can have hope for the future, it gives us the energy to act today. And anyway, Todd, it's just it's such a to to have you on. I appreciate all that you're doing.
Seth Holehouse:I encourage people to check out what you're doing. One of the websites people go to is just Vaxxchoice.com. It's vaxxchoice.com. Check that out. And, yeah, so Todd, any final thoughts before we conclude?
Todd Callender:I'm just happy to be here, brother. It's good to be with you.
Seth Holehouse:It is.
Todd Callender:So chance to do more of it. And, yeah, I encourage people, the most dangerous part of where we are right now is when we turn against each other. And so what I keep telling people is go and make friends with your local law enforcement, your local military. We're all on the same side. We don't need to be at each other's throats.
Todd Callender:It's important to have those relationships. So please go buy them a cup of coffee. Go have a conversation. Humans be humans. That's about it, brother.
Seth Holehouse:Great. Thanks for having me. Thank you so much. Alright, folks. I hope you enjoyed that conversation with attorney Todd Callender.
Seth Holehouse:It certainly gave me a lot of hope. But one thing that's important, I think that I hope you took from that, I certainly did, is that we still have to be prepared, not out of fear, but out of responsibility. One of the most important areas to be prepared though is in our food supplies. Let me ask you a question. How much food do you have for your family?
Seth Holehouse:Do you have a week, two weeks, a month? This is an important thing we have to be thinking about right now because we know that the elites are targeting our food systems, whether it's a food processing plants burning down, or any the other disasters, they're targeting our food systems. They want to create famine and food crisis. And so if you don't have a whole lot of food, which I recommend folks, personally, I recommend at least three months of storeable food. If not, six to twelve months is way better.
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