Bare It All with Linnsey

The Power of Desperation | Fuel for Recovery, Reinvention, and Success

In this episode of Bare It All with Linnsey, host Linnsey Dolson sits down with Angela Webb, CEO of Arrive Alive California, for a straight-shooting conversation about ambition, confidence, and the fight against the fentanyl crisis.

From addiction to autoimmune disease to partial blindness, Linnsey and Angela unpack how desperation can become the launchpad for transformation. Together, they break down why confidence isn’t handed to you—it’s built through decisions, clarity, and the refusal to let fear take the lead.

They dive into why so many people stay stuck in victim mode (and how to break free), how social media is shaping identity, and why your mindset is your most powerful tool for change. Whether you're in recovery, building a business, or just trying to get unstuck—this one goes deep.


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Angela Webb:

I'm the CEO of a nonprofit here locally in California. How many of you have heard of fentanyl? The kids are really being deceived to death. It's not medication at all. It is straight fentanyl pills.

Angela Webb:

I'm the CEO of Arrive Alive California.

News Sound Bite:

The fentanyl epidemic is finally loosening its grip in our area. Thanks in part to a group of community leaders dedicated to fighting the crisis.

Linnsey Dolson:

They are OD'ing and dying on that like insane amount.

Linnsey Dolson:

People worry so much. What if I fail? It's gonna be embarrassing. I would say it's actually more embarrassing just sitting in your basic ass life

Angela Webb:

Right.

Linnsey Dolson:

Not chasing any dream that you've ever wanted.

Angela Webb:

Yep.

Linnsey Dolson:

Who cares if you fail?

Angela Webb:

I have zero f's to give anymore!

Linnsey Dolson:

Yes.

Linnsey Dolson:

If we can make a difference in people's lives, like I don't care if anybody judges me because that I'm no longer that person.

Angela Webb:

It's not this feel good of I have success, therefore, have self esteem. What creates success? What creates success is

Angela Webb:

Hold on. This is gonna be edited. Right?

Angela Webb:

Are we crossing legs? What are we doing?

Linnsey Dolson:

I think we're crossing. Let's match.

Angela Webb:

Okay. I'm okay.

Linnsey Dolson:

I'm turn this off real quick. We're all over the place, but it's fine. I forgot totally where I was at.

Linnsey Dolson:

Welcome to Bare It All with Linnsey. I'm so excited. I have my friend Angela. This girl is fucking amazing you guys. I just love her and I'm so excited to have her on. Welcome Angela.

Angela Webb:

Hello. Hello. Yay.

Linnsey Dolson:

So excited. I gotta watch working with my hands so much. I hit the mic like 30 times per episode.

Speaker 3:

Oh no. Not good.

Linnsey Dolson:

Well then because I'm a hand talker. I'm a hand talker.

Angela Webb:

If you can't hear me, I gotta make sure you hear me. Do you feel me?

Linnsey Dolson:

Do you understand?

Angela Webb:

Do you understand?

Linnsey Dolson:

I feel like you understand me

Angela Webb:

Yes. One hundred percent. Energy level here.

Linnsey Dolson:

I know. And then my editor is like, hey, we got a less hand movement because it's really hard to slice it when your hands are like this or this or like I'm working on it. I'm working on it. It's that ADD.

Angela Webb:

Exactly. The ADD. I know.

Angela Webb:

Our brains are going. Constant body movement.

Linnsey Dolson:

All of it. All of it. So Angela is freaking amazing. You're just doing so many things. Tell us a little bit about yourself.

Angela Webb:

I'm Angela Webb and I founded a nonprofit. So I'm a CEO of a nonprofit here locally in California. And the mission is really to educate youth on prevention and get to them before life alternative decisions happen. So that's one aspect of life. I'm a wife, a mom, a bonus mom, a grandma. There's so many different facets to who I am. It's kind of hard to put it in one little box.

Linnsey Dolson:

So many hats that you wear.

Angela Webb:

Yes, girl. Yes.

Angela Webb:

And that has been evolving into this next chapter of my life that I've really been working on probably for the last six to eight months.

Linnsey Dolson:

Oh, I'm excited to hear about that chapter.

Angela Webb:

Yes.

Linnsey Dolson:

I just love seeing all the things, all your prevention for youth. Because it's so wild seeing like nowadays, so I've been sober almost ten years. I am so grateful that there wasn't the fentanyl issue when I was out there. Because I would have took anything.

Angela Webb:

Yeah.

Linnsey Dolson:

Like I would have if any if you had, I mean obviously I had my drug of choice. But if I didn't have that, I would have took whatever you had. A one pill, two, three, sure, why not? Anything that would escape me from my reality, I would have took. And most likely I would have died.

Angela Webb:

Yeah.

Linnsey Dolson:

Because nowadays you have no clue. My stepdad's, well, stepdad's wife, I'm not sure where that would come. Ex stepdad's new wife. She took one, I think she thought it was like a antidepressant and she took it and she was dead within like forty five minutes.

Angela Webb:

Yeah. So that is the angle I have come at this crisis with. It's a little bit different take on kids don't do drugs, drugs are bad for you. It's the fact of the kids are really being deceived to death in the scope of reality, thinking that, oh, this is a common prescription medication, whether it's Xanax or Adderall or Percocet or you name it. They're going online. Now, let's break it down a little bit. There's seventy percent of adults self diagnose themselves. Think about it. WebMD.

Linnsey Dolson:

Yeah. One hundred percent.

Angela Webb:

How many times do we go on and we're like, oh, what do I have? Granted, we think we're dying the next day.

Linnsey Dolson:

Damn it. I have cancer.

Angela Webb:

I'm dying. Oh my going to die. Oh my god.

Angela Webb:

I have cancer right now. Damn it. Yeah.

Angela Webb:

Self diagnose ourselves, but it has been actually there's studies out there that the kids are doing that on TikTok. They are self diagnosing themselves. What are my symptoms? So wild. But the thing is that we didn't have or didn't know of is that they go on, they can purchase these things online.

Angela Webb:

So what in their mindset, if we get the bigger picture here and think of their mindset, this is a common prescription medication. There's it's not illicit drugs, right? I think in their innocence or their ignorance, really in that youth mentality. Oh, I just need an Adderall to help me study to get through my finals. The reality is, is that's where that deceived to death comes into play is they're mixing it with fentanyl, and it's not laced.

Angela Webb:

And I think the medias has it wrong still to this day. It's not medication at all. It is straight fentanyl pills. Looking, pressed, colored like the real thing. Our scientists cannot even by the naked eye cannot look at a pill and say, is it real or fake?

Linnsey Dolson:

Really?

Angela Webb:

They 100%.

Linnsey Dolson:

That's so scary.

Angela Webb:

So that's the angle for us as a community to think bigger that it's just not, well, the kids shouldn't be doing drugs anyway. Right? Okay. Can we think bigger? That it could be something that they just are self diagnosing. There's a stigma around mental health still.

Linnsey Dolson:

Huge.

Angela Webb:

So go online. There's literal menus online. Snapchat, one of the biggest online dealers, allegedly, is they have menus up there. What do you want? Okay, I need Percocet.

Linnsey Dolson:

That's so wild. It's so wild to look at it from that point because of so many people, yeah, they're like, just don't do drugs. Well, yeah, that sounds great. When I was in high school, I took all kinds of pills I didn't know. I was always on ecstasy or acid or just like all of these different drugs. And I didn't know what the hell I was taking, like just give it to me and you tell me, oh that's what it is, okay sounds good.

Angela Webb:

Right.

Linnsey Dolson:

But then, you know, that was a long time ago. I, we didn't have that where, know, could be fentanyl, could be all that. It's so scary.

Angela Webb:

It's so different. And I think this year going into what we're doing for prevention and the youth is we're breaking it down to the entire new drug landscape. It's no longer one specific category. It's no longer one specific drug. We really have to expand, especially since we're starting to see these designer drugs come in here in our neighborhood.

Angela Webb:

And, you know, the scientists don't even know what these designer drugs are. They don't know what they'd even do to the human body. They're so new. But they're being mixed with fentanyl. And I recently said that there's two reasons, big reasons why it's inexpensive.

Angela Webb:

And it the potency 50 times more powerful than heroin, 100 times more powerful than morphine. We have car fentanyl, which is think of it like a cousin of fentanyl. And that's 100 times more powerful than fentanyl.

Linnsey Dolson:

So many people are hooked on it. So I go to like rehabs and not too long ago, I was speaking at a women's rehab. And so many of them are, that is the new drug.

Angela Webb:

Right.

Linnsey Dolson:

Before it was like everybody was on meth. I would go into the rehabs and I talked to the women and it was like most all of them were meth. It's all fentanyl now.

Angela Webb:

Yeah.

Linnsey Dolson:

They are all on fentanyl and these girls are so young and they're babies. And every single time it takes them out, it's horrible. I will have met somebody at a place and I follow-up on them, they OD'd, they died. They are OD'd and dying on that like insane amounts all the time.

Angela Webb:

And then you look at even our unsheltered here locally, they don't even realize they're taking it.

Linnsey Dolson:

Right.

Angela Webb:

Because it's being cut with it. And oh, I just want meth. I don't want to touch fetty. No way that. And then they get their drug test and they pop for fentanyl. And they're like, I didn't know that. It's almost a guaranteed repeat business because of the potency of the drug. You're going to go back to that specific dealer thinking that I'm only on meth or I'm only on cocaine or whatnot.

Angela Webb:

And but that's better than the other person. Well, why? Because they're cutting it. We had four people that died in South Lake Tahoe, and they were all doing cocaine. And it was all cut with fentanyl.

Linnsey Dolson:

And when you're in your addiction, you're not thinking of that. Like, remember being in my addiction, like, I could not wake up if I didn't have, like, a drug. I would not wanna take a trip because I'm like, my God, can't go through the airport with it and I'm not gonna be able to wake up and I'm not gonna be able to You're like a prison of this, You have to have it just to function. And so people desperate, like they're desperate. And so they'll take whatever, right? Because you need to get out of that pain. You're either withdrawing, you are, you can't wake up, you can't function, whatever. So people are not like, oh, is this the best dealer? They trustworthy? Whatever. They're just looking to get out of that pain and to like escape.

Angela Webb:

It's the numb. I wanna just be numb. I don't wanna deal with the reality. Well, thing that fentanyl does, it hones in on the accomplishment nerve in your brain.

Linnsey Dolson:

Really? Tell me a little more about that.

Angela Webb:

So you think about it, you know, ambition, and we have someone that's not using.

Linnsey Dolson:

Sure.

Angela Webb:

You have that innate, I need to get up, I need to do this, I need to feel accomplished, right? Well, that's what the drug does. It makes them feel accomplished?

Angela Webb:

It's an accomplishment. I want to say vibe, and that's the wrong word. That's the neurological chemical reaction is the same. Mirrors the fact of I'm accomplished.

Linnsey Dolson:

So it makes them feel like they're doing things.

Angela Webb:

Doing something.

Linnsey Dolson:

I mean, you know, that makes sense because I remember being high on meth, and I was like life is freaking great, man. I was taking selfies thinking I looked good. And I looked back, man Facebook loves to remind me of, Here's your memory from fourteen years ago, hell no. Do not show me that. Rude.

Angela Webb:

What? Yeah. Exactly.

Linnsey Dolson:

Rude. I know.

Linnsey Dolson:

It's so bad. No, I don't wanna see that memory.

Linnsey Dolson:

Yes. But it was like in my mind, I actually thought I was looking really good. You know? And I thought like in your brain, you're life is so good and dah dah dah dah dah dah dah. And it's not. It was fucking horrendous. But it does trick your mind and then you're also in denial.

Linnsey Dolson:

A 100 constant denial of what the reality is. Still to this day yesterday, my daughter was talking about something and she like, we're talking about a couple stories that happened when I was in my addiction and I was like, oh, I'm so embarrassed. I am so embarrassed and it's like, it seems almost like it was a different lifetime ago, right? I hear stories and I'm like, yeah, that was me. But that was that last life.

Linnsey Dolson:

It doesn't even seem like reality and I remember being in that time and it was so disconnected from reality. The things that would happen, I mean, I lost parental rights to five children. CPS took my parental rights. My mom had to adopt them because of my drug use. I couldn't get sober.

Linnsey Dolson:

Still to this day, my older daughter, my little one, I had her in sobriety. But the older ones, when I would have to do anything at their school, I'd have to bring my mom Because I wasn't even on their birth certificate, so it still followed me. But those are things, I was in such denial that it didn't even hit me. Yeah, they're taking my parental rights, but my mom still has it, so it's not that bad. You know, because it is, it lies to you.

Linnsey Dolson:

It's like, well that was kind of rough, but it wasn't that bad. It could have been worse. They're not in the foster system. And it does that, your brain just tricks you. You're so strung out on a drug and your mind has you thinking it's not that bad. It's wild.

Angela Webb:

Well, at people even with alcohol or any other kind of intoxicating substance. Send the text message. It's not that bad. Close the story. It's not that bad. Then you wake up and go, oh my gosh. It literally takes over the realness of who you are. And even the more strong the drug, I would imagine, the more you have that as an effect in your life.

Linnsey Dolson:

Oh my gosh, yeah.

Angela Webb:

Yeah, no, it's heartbreaking to see when people are addicted to any substance because it literally changes who they are.

Linnsey Dolson:

I think drugs are the one thing. There is a bond with your children. That moment your child is brought into this world, like there is no other feeling like that in the world.

Angela Webb:

Right.

Linnsey Dolson:

And I remember giving birth to my two second to youngest. And I had went in, got no prenatal care. I didn't know how far along I was, whatever. My water broke. I was completely under the influence, freaking out going into the hospital, but I And had I was so numb through the whole thing, even the experience of giving birth, that connection was not there because I was just so numb. Then all the sheriffs walked in because the child's pos tox and I'm pos tox and just to numb to it.

Linnsey Dolson:

Then they made me leave the hospital without the baby and the whole experience, I was so numb. And then ten months later, I was back at a separate hospital giving birth again to another baby, pos tox, no prenatal care, no nothing. Same thing, kept the baby, made me leave the hospital. And I was so freaking numb to it that it was so far from reality. I think that's what people run from is like all these things happen in your addiction.

Linnsey Dolson:

And you numb yourself and you numb yourself. And that's why I would never stay at rehabs. I would stay at a rehab for like a day or two. And then as soon as I woke up sober and I had to face all this shit, I was like, I can't do I cannot do it. Would be in groups and my leg would be shaking like this.

Angela Webb:

Right.

Linnsey Dolson:

Like, because like, I was just anxiety and the reality and the guilt and shame and fear and all that was like too much. And I would just leave and have to get high.

Angela Webb:

Right.

Linnsey Dolson:

I'd always tell myself, I just need to get high one more time. Just need to get high one more time and then I'm done.

Angela Webb:

Mhmm.

Linnsey Dolson:

And it was like finally facing that. But I feel like that's what people run from for so long and just stay numb. Right? Because once you un-numb yourself, you have to face all that.

Angela Webb:

Oh, you gotta sit in it. Face it. Deal with it.

Linnsey Dolson:

You have to face that wreckage.

Angela Webb:

Yes. All the things that I have done. And that's why the 12 Step program, I think is so beautiful.

Linnsey Dolson:

It's huge.

Angela Webb:

One of the biggest point is reconciling your relationships or things that you've done. And that takes a lot of courage to do. I think at the end of the day, why do we get numb? Why do people go and wanna forget everything that they've done? Because of the shame that's associated. That wasn't me, that isn't who I am.

Linnsey Dolson:

Right.

Angela Webb:

And then having to go through that and deal with that.

Linnsey Dolson:

Well, people think like, I think they think once they've gotten so far gone and whether it's on alcohol, drugs, whatever, that there's no coming back from that. And it's insane what making a living amends will do.

Angela Webb:

Mhm.

Linnsey Dolson:

Just fixing the behavior and never doing it again.

Angela Webb:

Right.

Linnsey Dolson:

You can pretty much reconcile any relationship. If you just never do the action again, right? You never get high again. You never all of that. I feel like what really, I see a lot of women who get sober and then they build that relationship with their kid and then they relapse. And then they, and it's just a constant battle. And so then, of course the child's not gonna trust you again.

Linnsey Dolson:

But if you make a living amends and you get sober, and you never do that again, and you spend the rest of your life being the best version of you you possibly can, like you'd be amazed what you can come back from and what you can fix, you know?

Angela Webb:

How was your relationship with your mom? I know your story, I can't believe I'm asking you questions on your podcast.

Linnsey Dolson:

Go for it, girl.

Angela Webb:

And you know what I'm so funny. I'm driving here, and I'm like, we've known each other for one year. And I remember when we first met.

Linnsey Dolson:

Yeah.

Angela Webb:

And then we happened to be on a plane together on the way back. We we meet in LA.

Linnsey Dolson:

Yes.

Angela Webb:

My husband, myself, and you were also in the terminal. So of course, we like, let's connect. Let's do this.

Linnsey Dolson:

Yeah.

Angela Webb:

And I remember your story was so impressive, inspiring to me. I've never been where you've been. But that doesn't mean I cannot connect and relate at some level with you. If anything, it makes my job more meaningful.

Linnsey Dolson:

Yeah.

Angela Webb:

It's the same reason, right? Driving here, I'm like, how was that? Literally am trying to fill in pieces of your story that I don't know. So, we're turning the tables.

Linnsey Dolson:

Okay. But my mom also struggles with her mental health.

Angela Webb:

Okay.

Linnsey Dolson:

Big time. So, I just don't deal well with that. And so honestly, I don't talk to my mom a whole lot. I just feel like she's a little bit toxic.

Angela Webb:

Okay.

Linnsey Dolson:

And so-

Angela Webb:

You have to have boundaries.

Linnsey Dolson:

I have to have boundaries and she's just not the kind of person I'm so positive and so like, woo. And just And I don't want that like, to see. That's not even a word. How the hell do you say that word? What talks whatever it is. She's super toxic. So, no, I really don't.

Angela Webb:

Okay.

Linnsey Dolson:

And I feel like, I mean, I made amends to her and I am so forever grateful for her for stepping up with the kids. Right. And we argued a lot about the things, but I'm so grateful to my mom for all of that, right? Because I still lived with my mom when I was in my addiction, so I was able to be with the kids. So I am forever grateful to her for that.

Linnsey Dolson:

And to me, she's an amazing woman for doing that. But today, our relationship's not good and it's just that she struggles with her mental health and it's just not something that I wanna have super close in my life. So I was really close with my dad, but he passed away like two years ago. My dad was in recovery. That was like my best buddy in the whole world.

Angela Webb:

Okay. So there's that connection. There's that you've been a where I've been. You understand what I'm going through.

Linnsey Dolson:

My dad was so freaking amazing. Like he just understood because the thing is, is like whether you're an alcoholic, you're an addict, you're a gamaholic, you're a sexaholic, whatever, we all have those same traits. We we overthink, we do obsessive thinking, we're self centered, we're all of the things. And those natural tendencies and we try to cover it with whether it's alcohol, whether it's drugs, whether it's sex, whether it's gambling, and a lot of times it'll change.

Angela Webb:

Yeah.

Linnsey Dolson:

People if they get sober and they don't go in and actually fix what's wrong in here, they just switch it.

Angela Webb:

Yeah, They just to another switch their addiction.

Linnsey Dolson:

There's so many people I meet in rehabs and they're like, oh yeah, I stopped doing meth, but I just drink. No, no, no, you traded meth for alcohol.

Angela Webb:

Yeah.

Linnsey Dolson:

You trade just because you're not hitting the pipe right now, but you're drinking every day. No, no, no, you didn't fix problem. You switched the problem.

Angela Webb:

Right.

Linnsey Dolson:

Right? Or a very common one is they'll get sober and then they switch to like men or to women So that kind of whatever it is, they're trying to fill that void. And it's whatever they're filling that void with.

Angela Webb:

What did you fill your void with?

Linnsey Dolson:

I felt my void well, my addiction, obviously meth. But I when I got sober, I hit the ground running and I didn't even date for years.

Angela Webb:

Good.

Linnsey Dolson:

I had zero interest in it. I was so desperate to build my empire and build my business and build my life.

Linnsey Dolson:

I didn't even date. I don't think I even had sex for years after I got sober. I had like no interest in, I had plenty. And my addiction, I was good.

Speaker 3:

You're good. Yeah.

Linnsey Dolson:

Yeah. I was good. I so I didn't even like have sex for years. Like I was totally fine with it. I just built that with like my new addiction was success.

Angela Webb:

You've mentioned it a couple times and it just reminds me that there is a gift in desperation.

Linnsey Dolson:

Yes, girl. I did a TikTok on TikTok on Sunday. Oh my gosh.

Angela Webb:

There is such a gift in desperation.

Linnsey Dolson:

Oh my gosh. That's so funny. Yeah. I literally did a little reel on that yesterday.

Angela Webb:

Oh my goodness.

Linnsey Dolson:

It's the gift of desperation.

Angela Webb:

Yeah.

Linnsey Dolson:

That's like when I was walking down the street homeless, six months pregnant, high on meth, just looking for somebody who to get me high because I was like running out of stuff. And at that moment, that desperation for either I wanna die or I need to change my life because I can't go on one more minute like this. That moment of desperation is truly what changed my life. So many parents are like, what do I need to do to get my kids sober? All of it. Off, stop enabling them.

Linnsey Dolson:

100%.

Angela Webb:

They have to hit the rock bottom, right? They have to be so desperate that whatever they're doing no longer works for them. And that desperation is what you need to get sober. Or it's what you need to build your business and all of that.

Angela Webb:

Yeah. Like the clarity, it's the number one thing, desperation, clarity, doing so much in the study of your mindset and neuroscience. I am seriously just taking it all in.

Linnsey Dolson:

I love that.

Angela Webb:

But it is so powerful, but we have to get clear. You know, we have to understand and how truly, truly see what we want. And a part of that is so much what I think that this generation is being shielded from. I just did another podcast not too long ago when I talked about participation trophy was one of the worst things we could have done for an entire generation. It's not this feel good of I have success, therefore I have self esteem. What creates success? What creates success is failure, understanding what it takes and trying and trying and trying again. But we're shielding them. We don't want failure. We don't want struggle.

Angela Webb:

We don't want any of that to happen. And then the self esteem is you're having a void to fill. Because, you know, when we start breaking it actually all the way down, you know, can you teach ambition? No. You can cultivate it in the environment. And you start with the mindset, teaching mindsets. That's why I'm big on teaching the mindset.

Linnsey Dolson:

My mindset is everything.

Angela Webb:

I absolutely can. You don't have the life that you want. You have the life that you experience, the life that you think about. You think everything's bad, you're going to think you have a terrible life. But just like everything's wrong in life you can focus on, there's also so much that's wonderful. And then you have an extraordinary life if you're focusing on those things and getting clarity of what you want. I need more of this. Focus on that because your brain will find a way to fix it. Find it and get it.

Linnsey Dolson:

I love that. If you like you can look at somebody's life.

Angela Webb:

Mhmm.

Linnsey Dolson:

Or have a conversation. I can have a conversation with somebody for fifteen minutes and see why their life is the way it is.

Angela Webb:

100%. 100%. Most of the time it's how they talk to them how they're talking and it's like, woah.

Linnsey Dolson:

One, it's negativity, it's or the victim mentality. Victim mentality. Or I can't do this because of this. Or if I do this, it's this. Or if I do that, so fucking what?

Angela Webb:

Yeah.

Linnsey Dolson:

Get your ass up and do it anyway. It's like it is the mindset. It's 100%. And how you said failure is how you get success. So many times, I don't think I know a single person who's super successful who didn't go through something that almost broke them.

Angela Webb:

Yep. Even Thomas Edison said, I didn't fail 10,000 times. Just figured a way of not to do it. Get the light bulb. It's shifting our mindset because he got it. Yeah, it took him a while. How long does it take? But then we actually go through whatever struggle, whatever difficulty, well, this didn't work. How many times did it take you to ride a bike? Did you just throw your hands up after the third time?

Linnsey Dolson:

Yes.

Angela Webb:

Or you push through to get to that other side. So many times we're cutting it off after one, two or three. And not going, No, get back on.

Linnsey Dolson:

People are get still back on failure.

Angela Webb:

They are. I think that's the number one thing. Number one thing that stops people in their tracks from succeeding.

Linnsey Dolson:

Without a shadow of a doubt.

Angela Webb:

List out all the fears. Fear of other people's judgment.

Linnsey Dolson:

Yes.

Angela Webb:

Honey, I gave that up a long time ago. I don't have time for it.

Angela Webb:

I have got way too much to look forward to, to impress upon, to impact. The last thing I want to do is worry about if you think I have too many filters on, you don't like my eyebrows, my eyelashes are too big, honey, you do you.

Linnsey Dolson:

That I think when you reach that level in life where you don't give-

Angela Webb:

Freedom. And I don't know old you are, but I definitely

Linnsey Dolson:

42.

Angela Webb:

Huh?

Linnsey Dolson:

42.

Angela Webb:

Okay. I'm 47. And I'll tell you, after 40, forgive me mom, but F***-o meter goes right off the window.

Linnsey Dolson:

Girl, you are so right.

Angela Webb:

I zero f's to give anymore.

Linnsey Dolson:

Yes.

Angela Webb:

You know what?

Angela Webb:

Yes. And I think, I don't know if that's an over 40 thing and you're like, you're raising kids.

Linnsey Dolson:

It's a confidence thing too.

Angela Webb:

It is when you realize that nobody's judgment of you matters.

Linnsey Dolson:

It doesn't. You know what's wild is I've had so many people that have tried to give me advice, and I was explaining this to my kids actually like a week ago. And I was like, I'm not gonna take it. Okay, so I have people try to give me relationship advice, you know? And I'm like, look.

Angela Webb:

Well you do put it out there, honey. I just love it.

Linnsey Dolson:

I put everything out there. I didn't even know. I don't even care.

Angela Webb:

You are bare it all with Linnsey every day.

Linnsey Dolson:

Like, third time's a charm. Fuck it.

Angela Webb:

I literally I I'm like, if my eyes could speak with the big eye roll, I'm like, saw that one coming.

Linnsey Dolson:

But you know what? Like, judge me if you want.

Angela Webb:

I know.

Linnsey Dolson:

I don't even care. It doesn't It's like that level of confidence where I'm gonna do me and unless you I'll take business advice from you if you built a great business.

Angela Webb:

Absolutely.

Linnsey Dolson:

I'll take the relationship advice from you if you've been married for forty years and have an incredible relationship. I'll take parenting advice from If you've raised your children, incredible. But if you're struggling with raising your children, you're working a basic ass nine to five job struggling.

Angela Webb:

Yep.

Linnsey Dolson:

You are dating different people all the time. Do not give me advice.

Angela Webb:

No. Absolutely.

Linnsey Dolson:

No thank you. Yeah. I will do me whatever I wanna do and it's you know, I'm okay with failing. I try and I fail. Oh fucking well.

Speaker 3:

Look, I'm back up.

Linnsey Dolson:

And that's when people are like, they're so scared and I'll If do I'm feeling, hey, I wanna try it. I'll fucking do it.

Angela Webb:

Yeah. Yeah.

Linnsey Dolson:

You know, it's oh well, like that is the people like being so scared to try or what people think.

Linnsey Dolson:

Like people are so worried. When I first posted my first TikTok with like my mug shots.

Angela Webb:

Okay.

Linnsey Dolson:

People were like texting me. Oh, I would take that off a line because you're gonna lose clients. You're gonna da da da da. No. And I'm like, okay, and you're giving me business advice on how I'm gonna lose clients, but yet you like work at at-

Angela Webb:

Yeah.

Linnsey Dolson:

I don't wanna put anyone down. You don't have the life I want. And I don't care if people judge me. All the time that I posted everything and you know I post everything.

Linnsey Dolson:

I'm an open book, I do not care. When I chose to put myself out on social media, I'm gonna show you every aspect of my life. The good, the bad, the struggles, of it. No one's great at everything, right? So I kick ass, I feel like in business. Relationships, I'm still fucking learning. I'm working on it. I'm working.

Angela Webb:

We can't be perfect. I mean, come on, Linnsey.

Linnsey Dolson:

I mean, Iotta leave room for other people. You know, I struggle with some areas, you know. But like, I just feel that

Angela Webb:

Fear is what sets people back. It's fear of judgment. Fear of failure, you know. And it's it's heartbreaking when you see somebody that has so much talent and so much fill in the blank that they could do so much. And you see that the failure, the fear of failure is holding them back. And people's judgment though.

Linnsey Dolson:

Oh, They get so people worry so much. And what if I fail? It's gonna be embarrassing. Who gives a shit? I would say it's actually more embarrassing just sitting in your basic ass life.

Angela Webb:

Right.

Linnsey Dolson:

Not chasing any dream that you've ever wanted. Who cares if you fail? Who are you gonna be embarrassed in front of?

Angela Webb:

Exactly. Does their opinion even matter? Do they pay your bills? No, they don't.

Linnsey Dolson:

Thank you.

Angela Webb:

So I will say that I grew up in a pretty sheltered life. I did go a little crazy at one point, but for the most part, pretty sheltered. And put this whole social media thing, putting yourself out there and fear of judgment and all of that, what are people going to think of me, you know, type of thing. That is a real thing. Even though I've built an incredible business, incredible career, you know, I'm so, so very thrilled to be 47 years old to say, look at the accomplishments.

Angela Webb:

I truly cannot say it was all me. It was 100% God. I was just the vessel He used, you know, to do it. Right? But the reality is putting yourself on social media is daunting. And the I think the fear of judgments the number one thing, but to shift the perspective, I'm all about mind shifting. Like how can I take? Alright, I had a fear of water. And I took up scuba diving. So let me tell you how I attack fear. Go head first.

Linnsey Dolson:

Yes, Yes, 100% girl.

Angela Webb:

And I scuba dive to this day. Love it. And I laugh because you know, the fear of water or anything underneath it. I mean, as a kid, we'd go skiing and I'm like, hit it as fast as I could. I'd get in there because I didn't want to be in the water.

Linnsey Dolson:

Right.

Angela Webb:

But that's how I looked at it. So going into the social media thing, I heard this that changed my perspective for people. We all use social media for different reasons. Some people just want to put their kids and their photo album online.

Angela Webb:

Here's what I had for dinner. Honey, you do you. Some people want to put it out there as a branding aspect. I did not realize until Paramount Studio two years ago, we're all in the green room and people aren't asking for business cards. Honey, they are asking what's your Instagram.

Linnsey Dolson:

Girl, that is your business card.

Angela Webb:

I'm like, I have my personal and I keep it like at 50 people because I actually know these people. I'm not going to give them that. And I go, I need to start a brand if I want to be serious about that. So how do I overcome this fear of judgment? How do I overcome this fear of failure? And I heard something that changed the perspective and it was H.O.P.E. Help One Person Everyday.

Linnsey Dolson:

Oh, I've never heard of that. I love that.

Angela Webb:

And if I focus on the fact that me building my brand and what I do and if I truly, truly believe I have a story to tell. And I truly believe my whole mission is if somebody can look at what all the things that I have been through in life and go, because Angela didn't give up, I know I can make it through too. Or Because of this, I can push through. And if that's putting myself out there and dealing with all the negativity and the hate, okay, whatever, I don't care. Because if I can just help one person every day, then that's it.

Angela Webb:

And really, if you think that you have a story, if you truly think that you can help someone overcome something, and you aren't putting yourself out there, that's one of the most selfish things you can do.

Linnsey Dolson:

Dude, I love that. I think the biggest flex in life is how many people's lives you can positively impact.

Angela Webb:

100%.

Linnsey Dolson:

That's why I put my story out there so openly and I put a lot of details out there. That yes, I used drugs while I was pregnant. Would I do that now? If you smoke a cigarette too close to my kid, I'm gonna knock you out. Like you know what I mean?

Linnsey Dolson:

I don't even eat gluten or dairy or sugars and I try to be caffeine free. Like all of these things because I'm in my right mind now, right? So it's horrific, those are the realities that's going on right now. Addiction doesn't stop because women get pregnant. Women in their addiction are popping out babies nonstop because first off, they're not on birth control.

Angela Webb:

Right.

Linnsey Dolson:

They're overly sexually active usually when they're on drugs, those kind of things. Yeah. So that's a reality of it. There is pregnant women strung out all over the world.

Angela Webb:

Mhmm.

Linnsey Dolson:

And so like putting those things out there, you know what mean? People are like, that is horrific. I can't believe you put that out there.

Angela Webb:

But you're opening the door for them to understand. This is a bigger problem.

Linnsey Dolson:

This is a huge reality. Do you know many babies are in the foster system that were born pause talks, you Yeah. It's just the reality of it. I put it out there because like look, if I could be there six months pregnant, strung out on drugs, walking down the street homeless. Right. And today I live a life beyond my wildest dreams. Why can't you do it?

Angela Webb:

Right.

Linnsey Dolson:

If I can do it, I promise you can do it. If I can come back from I mean, there was a time my mom put a restraining order on me.

Angela Webb:

Woah.

Linnsey Dolson:

And did not even allow me around her or the kids because I was just a fucking tornado going through everybody's lives. Nobody wanted by the time I was walking down the street homeless and about to go into rehab my final time. Nobody wanted anything to do with me.

Linnsey Dolson:

And so my point of sharing all that and you sharing yours is if we can make a difference in people's lives, I don't care if anybody judges me because I'm no longer that person. And I have became the best version of me. And people seeing you out there, you're incredible. I love watching you online. You're all over the place.

Linnsey Dolson:

And then you just did a like a bodybuilding contest. What? Tell us about that real quick.

Angela Webb:

Girl.

Linnsey Dolson:

Girl, look so good. I was like, oh, she's hot. Look at you.

Angela Webb:

Thank you. Okay. I have to laugh. I'm like, and this is what grandma's look like in 2025. Kidding. Kidding.

Linnsey Dolson:

No. No. It's true. I'm a grandma. I'm a grandma.

Angela Webb:

I know. I know. We're glammies.

Linnsey Dolson:

Um, Yes.

Angela Webb:

You know, I think at the end of the day, I've already said this a couple of times, but I'm a big person of what you can do with your mind. I was a size fourteen year and a half ago.

Linnsey Dolson:

Really?

Angela Webb:

I'm a size two now. My bodybuilding competition, I went to a zero. But yes, I could have done the skinny drug or shot or whatever. But I've had a lifetime of yo yo dieting. And the last thing I wanted to do was get into that. So I already knew that, no, I'm not going to go that route. That is a personal choice for everyone that's out there. That was just mine because I didn't want to be addicted to another thing. Right?

Linnsey Dolson:

Right.

Angela Webb:

And so that was a decision I made. I was supposed to have a very major surgery and it's a four level fusion on my neck. I was in a rollover accident many years ago and I put it off for several years. So once I got the MRI back last summer, I hired a personal trainer and said, I know I'm going into surgery. And I've heard that once I go into surgery, if I've been working out, then my recovery time will be better.

Angela Webb:

Well, once I met with the neurosurgeon and he said how extensive the surgery was going to be, I'm like, well, I can't because the potential possibility of me losing my voice and not ever being able to talk again, have we met? That's not going to work for me. So I told my doctor, I said, Okay, I'll put it off for one more year at least. I want to get my daughter through high school. And so I continued to train with my trainer.

Angela Webb:

Six months passes and I start having issues with my eye. Like if if there isn't a force trying to take me out right now, girl.

Angela Webb:

And I had already gone blind in one eye, my left eye, about ten years ago, right after the car accident. And now my right eye was

Linnsey Dolson:

Wait, so you I didn't realize that your left eye is blind. You can't see out of your left eye?

Angela Webb:

I had what they called an eye stroke and I had my optic nerve blue.

Linnsey Dolson:

Wow.

Angela Webb:

So I can't see. I haven't been able to see for about ten years. And so right around December time, right around Christmas, I was having issues with my right eye. I couldn't see, couldn't see, couldn't even open my eye. We started buying all these magnifying glasses to put up against my computer just to try to see the type font. And no one knew because I would Uber to my presentations and just continue to work and put on the smile and do whatever. But I didn't want to go down this path of self destruction. And so I decided, you know what, I need to focus on something I control.

Angela Webb:

Control the controllables. It's something that I believe in 1000%.

Linnsey Dolson:

Control the controllables. I love that. That's a good one.

Angela Webb:

Yeah, I can't control what's happening inside my body, my neck, my back, my eyes. But I can control my mind and I can control my effort I put in. So I didn't let any of my work slide. And then I started training that focus switched to bodybuilding. There were times I showed up to not only my work through an Uber, but also to the gym through Uber because I couldn't drive.

Angela Webb:

So we are literally

Linnsey Dolson:

You are freaking incredible, girl.

Angela Webb:

Thank you. I'm a glutton for punishment. What are you talking about?

Linnsey Dolson:

And that all comes back to your mindset. Yeah, you did not let that affect you. I see a lot of people that get on this health kick. And they're like, oh, I can't do it. I'm diabetic. I can't do it. Oh, this. I have to go to my doctor's appointment. Have to do this, this, this.

Angela Webb:

Right.

Linnsey Dolson:

I have an autoimmune. There's days I wake up and I actually feel horrific.

Angela Webb:

Mhmm.

Linnsey Dolson:

Like my body feels like I have a hangover. And it's because my immune system attacks my own natural body. I don't even, don't let it affect me. Like I don't even tell people about it.

Angela Webb:

Yeah.

Linnsey Dolson:

Because it's like, I'm not even gonna remind myself that I have an autoimmune. I mean, I obviously do things for it. I don't eat gluten, I don't eat dairy. I know all those things because it helps, right? If you let that, your mind like take over that, oh, I have this autoimmune, can't do this. I can't do this. I can't do this.

Angela Webb:

It's the I am statements.

Linnsey Dolson:

Yes.

Angela Webb:

You just put yourself in a box. I am or I have. Okay, that's not your identity. That's a part of who you are. And that's that whole mind shifting of, yeah, that's it. But who else are you? What else are you? I would have never known because you don't make that a part of your identity.

Linnsey Dolson:

Right. Because it's not allowed to.

Angela Webb:

You're not a victim.

Linnsey Dolson:

No it's not allowed to. We all have some kind of health thing.

Angela Webb:

Oh my goodness, we

Linnsey Dolson:

We're human and we have natural human bodies and we struggle, but it's people letting that control them.

Angela Webb:

Right, but I think that shifting into the fact of I think that's what people, not that we claim our identity to the ailments we might have or the struggles we might have gone through or the issues we face, That's not a part of our identity. But when people hear about some of the things that have happened in my past and they go, I have no idea or are you serious? I don't make it a part of my identity. And again, if you can see that, yeah, that's all a part of it. Or yeah, that's something that was in my life. But that's not. I didn't-

Linnsey Dolson:

I would have never knew.

Angela Webb:

Put my whole identity on that. And I think in this day and age, people are looking for authenticity. People are looking for a story that they go, Oh my gosh, my sister, brother, daughter has a story so similar to yours, Linnsey. I know that there's hope.

Linnsey Dolson:

It's relatable. They want to relate.

Angela Webb:

It's relatable. And in this world of with social media being just nothing but highlight reels, I think it's very important. Yeah, absolutely do the highlight reels. Yeah. Post your kids and your food and all of that. But share with people. So there is that connection and there is that ability to relate. I think that's so important.

Linnsey Dolson:

It's huge. Nobody wants to see perfection.

Angela Webb:

No.

Linnsey Dolson:

Nobody wants to watch perfection. I don't care how much it looks like you have your shit together on the outside, you struggle. That's another reason that I share like even the relationship stuff, so I can laugh at myself. I love it. I can totally laugh at myself.

Angela Webb:

Yeah.

Linnsey Dolson:

There is times where I do something, and I was like, oh, that was probably not a good decision, Linnsey. But I like put it out there because I just, you know, it's we all struggle. We all do. We all have struggles, but it doesn't matter if you struggle. It's just your mindset of how you keep going and all of that.

Linnsey Dolson:

We have to wrap it up. We're almost out of time.

Angela Webb:

Nooo.

Linnsey Dolson:

I love this podcast. We gotta come back.

Angela Webb:

I love this. Just all over the place.

Linnsey Dolson:

Just your energy. I never would have ever known that you only see out of one eye.

Linnsey Dolson:

That's my phone. Just ignore it, you guys. I'm managing like four phones today and apparently, I don't know how to I'm managing this Android that's not normally my phone. It's Hannah's who's incredible and she's on vacation. So it just stopped. I don't even know how to turn off the ringer on it.

Angela Webb:

It's alright.

Linnsey Dolson:

It is what it is.

Angela Webb:

It is what it is.

Linnsey Dolson:

But Angela, let everybody know how to find you.

Angela Webb:

Yes. Absolutely. Come come follow me. Come hang out in my online space. It's IAmAngelaWebb on Instagram or Facebook and I just started my TikTok account and then coming soon, very soon, this is an exclusive announcement will be angelawebb.com and really powerful things are gonna be on that website.

Angela Webb:

So come join me.

Linnsey Dolson:

You're so awesome. Thank you so much.

Angela Webb:

Thank you.

Linnsey Dolson:

Bye, guys. Love you, guys.