Clydesdale Media Podcast

Every day we take a breath from the busy work day, to get a break, hang out with friends and talk about the world of Sports, Entertainment and specifically CrossFit. Today we talk more about conspiracies in the CrossFit Space, we take a look at what happened this week as we head into the weekend and see what all of you have planned this weekend.

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We cover the sport of CrossFit from all angles. We talk with athletes, coaches and celebrities that compete and surround in the sport of CrossFit at all levels. We also bring you Breaking News, Human Interest Stories and report on the Methodology of CrossFit. We also use the methodology to make ourselves the fittest we can be.

Did someone have a show this morning

talking about conspiracy theories and say

that CrossFit may not sell?

Where'd I hear that before?

We're going to discuss now, live,

Lunch with the Clydesdales.

I love the chase and the hunt,

and I set the pace when I'm running.

I always take what I want,

and I always give it one hundred.

Don't need a bank, no I'm funded.

Play the game like it's nothing.

I'm always thankful for something.

Don't take for granted, stay humble.

Now wake up!

It's time to look at the enemy.

Look in the mirror if he is no

friend to me.

What's going on everybody?

It's Lunch with the Clydesdale.

I don't know if you guys noticed,

that's a new opening.

Same pictures, different audio.

I remove the beeps for Jody Lynn.

Jody Lynn listens on audio in her headset.

She's been complaining about the beeps at

the beginning for a long time.

I thought, let's do something fun.

Let's change it up.

Took out the beeps.

What's going on, Tranked Olive,

Corey Leonard, Sean, Ken?

What's going on?

Sean, I cannot see what your emoji is.

It is so small.

I don't know.

I don't know what that is.

It's a Bruce, Plant Powered Fitness.

Let's get it on, guys.

It's funny.

Like I, I,

I tune in to coffee cup.

Thank you, Bruce.

Thank you, man.

I'm getting old.

The bottom of the bifocals there.

Um, so yeah.

Um, the conspiracy theory stuff.

I tuned into Savan this morning,

Matt Sousa and Caleb were running the

show.

They're talking about conspiracy theories

and CrossFit.

And all of a sudden they talk about

the sale of CrossFit.

Is it really happening or is it not?

And, um,

I don't know where I've heard that before,

but I think last Sunday night,

a show did a segment called Factor Fiction

and said this.

Fiction,

there really is no sale of CrossFit.

They've all been duping us.

It sort of seems that way at this

point, huh?

I feel like we've been waiting for like

six months, at least from the sale talk.

I was like, Oh,

is it going to be right after the

open?

Is it going to be right before the

games?

No, it's going to be right after the,

it's like, keep pushing it.

I don't know.

You might be onto something here.

Like maybe, maybe nothing's happening.

Maybe they couldn't make anything work

out.

Hear me out.

Now let's go full conspiracy theory.

Because they said they're up for sale,

we haven't been banging on them for all

the stuff they do poorly.

Yeah.

And in that time,

they've actually started to do stuff well.

Yeah.

Right?

And actually start moving in the right

direction with better marketing campaigns.

It was a pretty good CrossFit Games this

year.

All the old merchandise back.

Social media is back up and running and

thriving again.

CrossFit podcast is up and running.

And now they're like, hey,

we've got it all rolling in the right

track now.

And we could actually maybe wait a couple

of years and sell it for even more.

Yeah.

So that was said last week,

last Sunday night, actually,

on Sunday Night CrossFit Talk.

And to be honest with you,

I threw it in there as a thought

of we just haven't heard anything yet.

And if I've ever made up anything in

my life, it was that.

It was just to get a talk about

they keep pushing and pushing.

We're going to be sold.

It's in this direction.

It's going in this direction.

And we haven't heard anything forever.

And now I'm of the belief that maybe

they've looked at the numbers or maybe the

people,

they said it this morning with Matt and

Caleb,

Maybe they looked at the numbers and said,

ooh,

maybe we don't want to be a part

of this.

Or maybe Brookshire is saying, hey,

maybe we went about this wrong.

Now we're seeing we can actually make some

difference in a trend and move the needle

in the other direction and just wait to

make more money.

So it's an interesting concept.

I don't know if there's a lot of

validity to it.

Maybe there is.

But it just seems odd that we just

can't seem to get any answers on where

this is going.

So, yeah.

I'm anxious to see your thoughts.

and here i thought you were on to

something i don't know i don't know if

i'm on on anything we're on to anything

ken but um yeah i don't know uh

bruce wayne they're trying to make more

money that could be the possibility i see

plant-powered fitness agrees with you uh

if i wasn't part of the crossfit community

why would anyone want to buy something

with all the baggage it has

I think on the affiliate side,

there isn't as much baggage as we think

there is.

For us geeks that are into the sports

side and follow the sports all day long

and all the drama around it has made

us...

it made us not how to,

we have clouded the look at the affiliate

side of the house.

And that's really where the money is,

is on the affiliate education side of

CrossFit.

That's what people are buying it for.

Not for the sport.

So, yeah, I, uh,

Aaron Frazier, it's in a place for growth,

buy low, sell high.

Yeah,

but if they can't come to an agreement

on the purchase price of low,

maybe Brookshire is like,

maybe we'll just try to figure this out

moving forward rather than sell it off.

So I think that there's a lot still

on the table for all of this.

Where did the rumors that it was even

being sold even begin?

Maybe CrossFit media have been chasing a

wild goose the entire time.

CrossFit came out and said it.

Dawn Fall came out in a statement saying

that CrossFit was up for sale,

that they had hired a company to assist

in the sale.

So it's not a rumor.

That was actually said by the CEO of

CrossFit.

If it doesn't sell right now,

it's going to get really interesting on

athletes and camps mayhem decisions.

I actually thought about that this morning

as well, Ken, like, you know,

Rich has made these statements that if it

doesn't sell to the right person with the

right,

giving the right people a seat at the

table, you know,

He was going to be out.

What if it doesn't sell?

He was posed with the question,

what if Dave is put in the CEO

position?

And he said that they were still going

to be out.

So what happens now if they don't sell

and everything remains the same?

So I don't know.

Bruce Wayne, I don't believe that.

What part don't you believe?

Yeah, so if nothing at all changes, Ken,

I'm betting that Mayhem still makes the

decision to not stay.

So it'll be interesting.

But maybe if they don't sell,

maybe they do give someone from Mayhem's

camp a seat at the table.

Maybe they give someone from Proven's camp

a seat at the table.

Who knows?

These camps and athletes making decisions

based on sell or no sell.

If you don't believe that,

let me pose this to you.

What about CrossFit right now and the way

it's designed makes you as a camp or

an affiliate want to stay?

If it's anything other than loyalty,

I don't know what it would be.

Now, things have picked up.

Marketing has gotten better.

They're making a push to push people into

the affiliates.

That has changed,

but that's only been like in four months.

Like,

that's going to have to go out a

little bit longer for me to buy in

if I'm an affiliate owner that you're

going to continue on with this path.

You're going to have to prove to me,

after years of us banging on the drum

since the media team was released and

there hasn't been media released about

going to the affiliates,

that leaves the only thing left for the

affiliate is a sense of loyalty to

CrossFit HQ.

So I think that...

And on the athlete camp side,

they can still compete in CrossFit and not

be...

And even Rich said they would probably

remain an affiliate kind of secretly,

take down CrossFit from all the signage,

but remain an affiliate so that their

athletes could do the workouts at the gym.

But when you have someone like Mayhem that

has so much media out there

it's a huge mistake to lose them as

an, as a recognized CrossFit affiliate.

I agree, Larry.

It's only been loyalty for a long time.

I don't think CrossFit CrossFit HQ has

provided the affiliates much in the last

few years, probably the last seven years.

Um,

and because of that it is just loyalty

to what that methodology is that has

affiliates still there for sure so yeah i

don't know it's going to be interesting to

see what happens um i had high hopes

for the sale i was hoping that maybe

it would go back to an independently owned

company where it would get back to kind

of its grassroots beginnings because I

think that is how it works the best.

Gym members, not just affiliates,

have loyalty too.

I agree.

But gym members have a loyalty to their

gym.

Most people in the gym setting do not

know what's going on at CrossFit HQ.

I've been the member of two different

gyms.

I would say more than fifty percent of

the members have no clue what's going on

at HQ or the sport or any of

that stuff.

And they have a loyalty to that that

box community and its coach.

Yeah.

And I do think that that does mean

something.

Ken puts the number at ninety percent.

One of my gyms was owned by Christy

Aramo O'Connell.

So I would say that one was at

fifty percent only because there are

pictures on the wall of her at the

games.

And it just because your owner is a

CrossFit athlete,

it made things different.

their loyalty is to that gym not to

some entity in santa cruz california or

denver colorado or whatever it is uh larry

young i think he's saying if it was

reasonable to affiliate his garage he

would do it like the old days um

i think that

know that's been talked about on days we

can review a lot about making a a

garage affiliation price point that was

more affordable and i and i hope they

do it because i do think that that

a lot of people will affiliate their

garage for sure arlene smith i agree with

you scott no one has a clue

Right.

It's just us geeks that listen to podcasts

all day and do podcasts that follow all

this stuff and talk about it nonstop.

And we are really a subset of a

small group of people.

So.

With that being said,

let's move on to some other stuff.

It's Friday.

I am ready to detox for at least

twenty four hours from all the CrossFit

stuff, but we're going to wrap it up.

What happened this week?

And then we'll move on and we'll start

fresh with a new week next week.

Um, I wanted to thank Chris Beasterfield.

I was on his podcast yesterday.

I had a great time.

So easy to talk to, uh,

so much fun to just sit back and

chat with him and not have to come

up with an agenda and, um,

and just let him run the show.

It was really cool to just kind of

sit back and relax and just talk about

life and remember how it all began and

kind of things like that.

So I want to thank Chris Beesterfield for

that.

I can, we have had Tia, Matt,

Dan Bailey,

and a loud and live crew workout at

our box.

When granite games were in Minneapolis and

most members were like, who are they?

Then the few groupies like me grab

pictures.

Yeah.

So, yeah,

thank you to Chris Beesterfield for all

that.

If you want to have really just fun,

fifteen minutes and you just need a break

from your day.

You need to go watch the first fifteen

minutes of the Glenton Things podcast with

Ali Shiver.

I could not stop laughing for fifteen

minutes it is her telling the story of

her husband getting scammed and I could

not could not stop laughing if you need

a break from your day fifteen minutes it's

all it takes first fifteen minutes of

glint and things with Allie Shiver and you

need to laugh go do that I highly

recommend it

probably the best fifteen minutes of my

day yesterday just so so funny so funny

I also watched the Liz Wishart video

yesterday that that Hiller put out I love

those stories where people have to work

for a living and chase a dream

And there are so many idiosyncrasies with

Liz and how she does things.

They have a ton of footage of her

and her boyfriend.

She built a van herself just using YouTube

to be a camper van, wired it up,

did all the work herself.

Um,

And I loved how they brought in this

like really hard test that Indiana

provides for their firefighters and how

very few people make it through this week

long test.

And then you're considered a smoke diver

if you get through it.

and um and liz was the first female

to complete that test and he intertwines

that and footage from um some people

talking about that test all the way

through the video it's awesome awesome so

was just i love storytelling um i was

talking to chris about this not on the

podcast but kind of when we're off the

air is you know what i love about

this and what we do is the storytelling

aspect of it and i just love hearing

people's stories and and hearing where

they came from why they do what they

do just

that's really what makes my day and uh

and i thought hillary did a great job

of storytelling in that video yesterday

yeah jody i'm i'm with you uh the

people that have to work all like a

forty hour week or firefighting or police

officer and then chase their dream to the

crossfit games is uh it's it's really

inspiring

It's one thing to see someone work out,

you know,

forty hours a week and that's their job.

But then to see someone actually being a

firefighter

And she talked about how she did this

smoke diver test and it went from like

Sunday or I think Sunday to Friday.

And then did the, Oh,

the quarterfinals that year.

And because that she was so exhausted and

she only finished seven seventieth and

didn't get to go on to semis,

but that is super impressive that she was

even able to do it.

It's crazy.

That's the main difference between a

professional and an amateur.

The latter still needs another job.

I know everybody's obsessed with this

definition of professional.

I don't care.

Anybody who wants to call themselves a

professional and they get even a dollar

for what they do,

call yourself a professional.

It's no skin off my back.

Um,

i know it's been debated on other shows

like what is a professional are

crossfitters a professional i just don't i

just don't care i don't care call yourself

whatever you want to call yourself i love

watching the sport it's what i you know

whatever it is it is um

also did the smoke diver because people

said she couldn't do it there's a lot

of people like that i i love people

like that tell me i can't and hold

my beer power five college athletes go

through this all the time i agree corey

You're oversimplifying what I said.

I said,

call yourself whatever you want to call

yourself.

If you won fifty bucks and you think

you're a pro now, call yourself a pro.

And it's no skin off my back.

It doesn't change how my day goes.

That's all I'm saying.

I don't care.

Now,

if you think that you shouldn't call

yourself that,

I don't care about that either.

Just call yourself the Cajun cowboy.

Don't care.

That's all.

So,

that kind of brings me to one of

the other things I wanted to talk about.

And I wanted to talk about it yesterday,

but...

when I talk with Corey,

I get a little heated sometimes and I

forget some of the details I wanted to

talk about.

And it goes back to the Pat Vellner

thing with coffee pods and wads.

And it is like,

he said something about people bashing the

athletes for going after the money.

And

What I hated about that was nobody ever

said anything about the athletes going

after the money and how they shouldn't.

In fact,

I think everybody that I have listened to

said,

if I'm offered that money to go do

what I love, I'm taking the money.

If someone came to me,

a startup came to me and said, hey,

we're starting a podcast channel and we

are going to offer you thirty thousand

dollars to come.

Hell, see you later.

I'm going to take the thirty grand and

we'll try to figure this out.

So I don't I don't have any any

problems with them taking the money,

even if it was done in a way

that offered exclusivity.

It'd be a very tough thing to turn

down guaranteed money.

Unless you're the best of the best and

you know you're Tia and you know that

you can win three hundred grand at the

CrossFit Games.

Having guaranteed money is a very big

incentive for any anybody,

no matter what they do,

whether they're a machinist,

a podcaster or an athlete.

When you're offered many times in life,

people are offered more money to leave the

one company and go to another company and

they do it all day long.

What's the difference between that and an

athlete being offered money,

more money than they've made ever before,

and they decide to go do that?

Now, is it sustainable?

I don't know.

But it may be worth the shot if

you're getting guaranteed money.

So... David Reed, Xevan said it best.

The community is...

community is talking about the situation

and pat is in another room yelling about

something else i just don't like i know

i never i never dogged an athlete for

going for the money because i would do

the same thing if i was offered that

money to do what i love i would

take the money in a heartbeat

I have worked at companies where another

company has come in and offered me more

money, and I've had to make that decision.

Is it worth me going for the more

money to do this over here or to

stay here?

It happens all day long for many people

in this country.

And I would never,

ever criticize someone for going after a

better way to support their family.

Ever.

So...

again exactly trent olive show me the

money uh aster serve you sure didn't but

the whole savan sphere was going apeshit

for the last eight months i i think

that i listened to a lot of the

savan sphere that you call

I think there have been criticisms about

how the WFP has gone about business,

but I personally have not heard anybody

criticize an athlete for taking the money.

So I will defend them on that front

for sure.

And I have been critical about how the

WFP have conducted business in ways.

I try to always offer constructive

criticism and offer a solution as to what

I think the other side should be.

And so I've never,

ever heard them criticize the athletes for

taking the money.

Ask to serve, slander, libel,

name-calling, the whole menu, up and down.

I'm sorry,

I cannot get on board with your comments

here.

I try to give everybody a voice,

but I've never heard them go after the

athletes just generally for going after

money.

the WFP for making promises they haven't

kept or making statements that we have

found out later not to be true.

I think those have been said.

All right.

Um, so anyway, I, uh,

I just wanted to address that.

I'm trying to just clean up the week.

Um, I'm really, really dying for, um,

for some action on the floor, man.

I'm, I'm dying for crash to get here.

Um,

I saw they've added Chris Ibarra to the

lineup.

I'm just – I'm jonesing for some fitness

to watch.

And so I'm really,

really excited for that to come.

I can't wait until that comes and we

get to watch some actual sports action

with this.

So the only thing that I am reluctant

about the crash crucible is, um,

is the Peace Corps comments.

I hate talking Peace Corps.

I'm not a big fan of Peace Corps,

but I know that once Crash kicks off,

that's going to be half of the discussion

with Crash,

but I guess I'll have to endure that

to be able to watch some really cool

programmed events done by some really fit

people, and I'm super excited for that.

Andrew Sten, MFC next weekend.

That really crept up on me, dude.

I did not realize it was coming next

weekend.

Do you know that they are,

if they are streaming that at all?

I know they have sort of in the

past.

Do you know if they're streaming it this

week, this year at all?

Or am I going to have to drive

up there this weekend,

next weekend and check some of it out?

nice thing about msc it's only about two

hour two and a half hours from my

house so i could get there in a

drive and back uh yes there will be

a stream what uh eight events nine scores

dang also tfx qualifier this morning was

rough can i just say something

I love I TFX is a really cool

event.

The old school TFX outside of Austin,

like way outside of Austin,

which I learned when I drove down there

or got down there.

Can we stop numbering the qualifiers and

the event numbers that is reserved for the

open and the CrossFit season?

Everybody else that's doing it just

confuses the numbers in my head.

I'm a simple man.

I don't know if I can't,

I can't handle it all, but, but damn,

like.

Twenty four point three or twenty two

point three.

Those are reserved for like the CrossFit

game season,

which is is how I understand it.

And now, like everybody else is adopting.

I know legends.

For the CrossFit Games Masters group,

name things point whatever.

Twenty-five point one through eight or

whatever the events were for the games.

Can't handle it.

That's got to be reserved for the open

season because I just can't handle it with

other stuff.

Tristan,

nobody is creative enough to name the

workouts.

Yes.

Train Olive, I agree.

Thank you.

Good gravy.

Ken Walters,

they adjusted one thing with P score this

year at crash,

not taking it to negative scores,

just to zero.

I understood Tyler on spin last week.

So they did that two years ago.

with the scoring they did not go to

negative then last year they capped the

negative and this year they're not doing

the negative at all okay so again those

are things that if you this has been

my complaint about the wfp whenever you

complicate things like this for people who

don't watch sports or don't do statistics

it just gets over complicated and they

shut down when you're

When you're doing P scoring,

the explanation has to be simplified so

people understand.

And talking about negative points and

talking about all of those variables makes

it so cloudy.

I worked as a statistician for four years

in the state of Florida.

And when Tyler gets into the weeds,

like I'm kind of glazing over.

Yeah, I don't think they,

they don't need to name the qualifiers,

Corey.

Just name it like Qualifier One,

Qualifier Two, Wadapalooza Qualifier One,

TFX Qualifier Three.

So,

and Tristan volunteers to write a name for

every qualifier because he does that for

all of his programming.

Lito, to be fair,

they were quite fast last year with

announcing the scores,

and I don't feel like P score is

that complicated if they explain it

simply.

I don't disagree with you.

They were quick with the scoring,

but on the shows after when we talked

about it,

there were a lot of questions as to

why this or why that.

Yeah.

So I don't know.

Frida isn't P score for the specialists.

That would be the opposite of CrossFit.

So like here now,

this is the stuff we have to explain.

So P score,

if you're a specialist will favor your

score for an event.

So the best example is someone like Danny

Spiegel.

If there's a heavy lift,

she's going to get mega points and a

big difference between first and second

because her lift is much greater than

somebody else's.

Or look at Guy.

Guy can clean whatever it is.

I don't know, four hundred, whatever.

And the next person is at three fifty.

He gets a big gap.

But then you put a run in and

it flips the table the exact opposite.

So when you flip the exact opposite,

then someone that's really good at running

is going to get that big score.

And Danny and Guy are going to get

negative points or cap at zero,

whatever they decide to do.

And so they lose all that advantage they

got on the one event by being really

terrible at the next event.

So it doesn't really favor the specialist.

It only favors them in one event.

It's really best for that overall fit

athlete to kind of keep everything above

the median or the mid-range score.

You want to be... Because it takes the...

It takes the middle score,

and then everything above it gets

positive.

The best way to look at it,

everything above it gets positive,

everything gets negative,

but it's not that way.

Just the ones below that get really bad

scores,

and the ones above it get really good

scores.

And Jody Lynn,

all I hear is Peace Corps.

Yeah.

can you imagine being a baseball announcer

or a sportscaster this morning and having

to say the last name Schlittler,

Schittler,

Schlittler over and over again and not

screw that up on, on FCC run TV,

cam Schlittler all morning.

I thought that was something different.

Uh,

I get that,

but all we need to know is if

you beat the field by a lot,

you get a lot more points, period.

We don't need the specific math.

I know,

but people want to dive into it,

and then we as podcast people have to

talk about it.

I'm not saying it's a bad thing.

I need to see it in a bigger

field.

really hard to judge at just one event

a year to see how it really plays

out um

And the Kmart,

I just shipped my pants commercial.

Yep.

Yeah.

Corey brought up Cam Scatabo.

Scataboo.

Yeah,

there's a lot of fun names out there.

But Schlittler's a tough one.

It's a tough one.

All right.

Going to see the new baby this weekend.

Going over Sunday to see my nephew and

the new baby, Olive,

who was born last week.

Super excited about that.

What else are we going to talk about?

I did watch a little bit of the

girls last night.

I actually watched the whole thing.

They were talking about going to High

Rocks Boston and that how many people were

there and that they'd never seen that in

a CrossFit event.

And I was like, well, duh.

You have people coming in doing one event

that takes like, you know, like, you know,

like, you know, like, you know, like,

you know, like, you know, like, you know,

like, you know, like, you know, like,

you know, like,

and so you can kind of move them

through the process of that pretty

quickly.

And... And then...

A CrossFit event,

you have people coming in for whatever you

scheduled that event for, one, two,

three days,

and they're doing multiple events

You don't have the space or the time

for like a ton of athletes like that.

And so I just found that like weird.

Like we have a five miler that goes

around the Ohio State.

It starts at the stadium,

ends on the field at the stadium,

and they get like fifteen thousand people

through that.

It's because it's one event.

One thing that happens,

you just kind of cycle people through it.

Where CrossFit, it's very, very different.

It's a different style.

So I didn't understand what they were

comparing it to.

It didn't make any damn sense to me

at all.

Dense Jenny says they gas up anything that

isn't CrossFit game season.

That's they stick.

Yeah, I know.

noticed they have been talking crossfit

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