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Introducing the Easeful Uplevel Podcast- where we talk about entrepreneurship, spirituality and living a life in harmony in tune with your natural talents. This podcast is inspired by conversations we’ve been having our entire life as childhood friends and now as entrepreneurs. We are dreamers and we love to achieve big, but refuse to burn out while doing it. This is our journey on the Easeful Uplevel, we hope you come along for the ride & we can't wait to cheer on your own big dreams.
Erin (00:01.576)
Of course. Gotta bring in the Lord. I was feeling it.
Alicia Wilson (00:04.441)
I was feeling it too. I felt like lifted up as you were saying it. So thank you.
Allison (00:05.518)
Hehehehe
Allison (00:10.836)
Mm.
Erin (00:11.6)
Good, good. Well, first of all, I'm so excited to have you with us, Alicia. You are so smart at what you do. And I know our audience is really, really interested in not just optimizing their energy, but also healing so much of what holds us back. And I think that's really what you help people unleash. You're multi-talented. You have...
a background in both Eastern and Western medicine. And it's such a powerful combination for anyone who gets to work with you. And so we are very lucky to have access to you and for you to make time for us today. So thank you so much.
Alicia Wilson (00:59.577)
Aw, thank you. That was so sweet, Erin.
Erin (01:02.22)
Yes, well, it's true. So I wanted to start by introducing Alicia. She is a powerful and gifted space healer for the highly sensitive. She helps to foster creativity and really bring peace as well to us creatively driven souls. And she really is that perfect mix of East first West.
spirituality and modern science. She really brings both together in her practice in order to incorporate these learnings and really bring healing to our clients. Alicia has spent over 10 years as a practicing registered nurse. And she's had around three to four years, I think, of Ayurvedic-like science coaching in this current iteration of her healing methods. And then she's also
You know, she's also a expert in acupuncture, yoga, reiki. Oh, acupressure. Well, that was my first question. Let's get into that because I actually don't understand the difference. So I would love to start off by talking about that, but I wanna keep going on with a few more of Alicia's amazing gifts. She also has talents in cranial sacral therapy.
Alicia Wilson (02:05.081)
Thank you for your pressure.
Erin (02:29.276)
And she really does help to coach her clients in reclaiming their energy. She does this even through on-demand texting services. She has her own personalized coaching. And she really helps to design a package that brings all of this together and helps to target her clients' unique, I guess I would say energy blocks, and optimize their health.
Alicia Wilson (02:37.625)
and I'm going to be talking about the importance of the
Erin (02:57.896)
So with that, let's get into my first question, which is what the heck is acupuncture or acupressure? What is the difference? Is it the same as Marmot therapy? I would love to understand a little bit more about.
Alicia Wilson (02:58.361)
Okay, so great question. So Marmot therapy uses the fingers for like a blunt object. So I actually sometimes will use crystals to apply the pressure to the specific energy points.
Acupuncture is more in line with traditional Chinese medicine. And then acupressure, the lineage that I learned is called Marma therapy, and that's in line with the Ayurveda system of medicine, which is ancient Indian medicine. And acupuncture uses needles, like tiny needles. I've had acupuncture, it's very effective. Acupressure, which is Marma therapy, uses either your fingers or
actually sometimes a lot of times mudras are put on the body. So like this is chin mudra and we use that in the belly button. You can assess a lot of different things. Like you can feel with your fingers, which makes it a lot different than acupuncture where you're just kind of like, now I don't practice acupuncture nor have I studied it in depth. So this is kind of my surface knowledge of acupuncture, but acupressure to me, it brings more like feeling and awareness.
from the practitioner to the recipient and from the recipient to the practitioner because the practitioner's there the whole time giving the pressure, you don't leave. During an acupuncture therapy, the practitioner puts the needles in, leaves and comes back. So you kind of process everything on your own and in my experience, that can be a little scary to be on the table with needles in your body. The acupressure experience is nice because people can communicate with me what they're feeling as I'm practicing.
And so that guides the treatment because my sessions are always guided by my clients intuition.
Erin (05:03.3)
That's so cool.
Allison (05:03.402)
And I've been one of Alicia's clients too. It's been really cool in terms of the craniosacral work that you do. And I know we're getting into the specific modalities, but can I back up real quick and just ask how you were drawn into RU VEDA? Because I know that probably some of our listeners know what that is. Some might be never heard of it in their life. But I'm curious, what drew you into it?
Alicia Wilson (05:27.545)
So that's a really great question. It found me. It found me on social media. One day I was laying in bed and I was like, woe is me about my life and my career. I was like, I love being a nurse, but I'm so tired. And I don't know if I can see myself doing this long term. And I had already tried out management positions. I was like, this is like way worse.
I thought I wanted to be like a leader in the field, but I take it back. I don't. And then I found Ayurveda through social media. I think Facebook post, Maharishi International University put up this ad and I'm like, Ayurveda, this sounds really familiar. I don't know what it is, but it sounds familiar. I have to know more. And I think I signed up that week with the bachelor's program for Ayurveda because I
In talking to the intake people, I was like, am I gonna be able to mix this with Western medicine? They're like, yes, this is the whole point. You've got to bring it to the Eastern, like the Eastern area, because you know, I'm in Ohio and it's not like a huge thing in Cleveland. Like it's growing a lot. It's actually growing exponentially within the last few years and it's so cool to watch. However, I was still unsure about it, but I'm so glad I took that leap. So yeah, that's how I found it. It found me.
Erin (06:45.496)
That's so amazing. And shout out to social media. You know, I love that. And this little marketing manager over here, you always wonder, do your ads actually work? And they do work. Look, working for good. Now that's so cool. Like what gave you, I guess when I hear that story, I'm like, wow, that's brave to just sign up within a week of seeing this opportunity. How did you harness the bravery to take that big step? I mean, cause you were in a very traditional route.
And I think many of our listeners can understand that feeling of like not wearing that itchy sweater and not necessarily feeling comfortable in your job, knowing that you might be meant for more than what you had imagined for yourself. How did you take that first step?
Alicia Wilson (07:33.561)
this question too because it actually came from...
a lot of suffering. I injured my back doing CrossFit. I herniated L4 to S1 and it had been probably six months to a year into me navigating that injury and healing because if anyone that's ever injured their back knows it's not like you just do the therapy and then you're healed. It's like cycles of months and months of getting better and then feeling worse and then re-injuring. So I was at this point where I was like...
it's not sustainable for my body. So I actually listened to my body and that's what helped me be extremely compassionate towards myself and take that step of bravery. Because if I hadn't listened to my body and I would have said, you know what, this back pain is something that everybody deals with and I should just get over it, then I probably wouldn't have felt that bravery to take this step into honoring my body and what my body needed.
Erin (08:35.576)
girl, I need you to talk to my husband because he has his back injury right now. He like literally woke up the other day with a back injury. Yeah, and it's very interesting because his job is in flux. And I think you have told me one time that like the pressure point of your back also has to do with financial.
Alicia Wilson (08:55.577)
Yeah, so yeah, definitely. So me and a client that I'm working with are kind of working on this right now. The energy center regarding to finances and like safety is actually in your root chakra. Of course, I believe that money is the heart energy, but like when it comes down to like the financial safety part of money, that's our root chakra.
And I believe that I was in a state of like, being really afraid that I was never gonna be able to afford anything I wanted. And I was working myself literally to death. And that's how I injured my back.
Erin (09:39.156)
Ugh, I just got full body chills. Wow.
Alicia Wilson (09:41.497)
Yeah, it's intense and the client I'm working with right now, she's getting over some really big money blocks and one of those steps is actually like signing up for a three-month program with me, which is like amazing, but we're talking about like how her constipation is related to that and how actually helping the constipation in the physical body is going to relate to the mental, emotional, energetic blocks that...
Allison (09:42.391)
Yeah.
Alicia Wilson (10:07.641)
she has to receiving or giving and spending money. And then, yeah, it's all connected. And that's kind of what I help my clients to see is that it's a fluid connection between all of the different realms.
Allison (10:21.43)
Mm-hmm. Yeah, well, it's so funny because I feel like you and I were drawn to each other because we both were fascinated by the mind and spirit kind of ties to our body, right? And it's funny because like, we come from the therapy background, right? I was like, this all ends up in your body, right? And you're like, oh, and I'm coming from the health, you know, like realm where I can see where the dis-ease, right, in your mind can like lead into all this disease in the body and...
Alicia Wilson (10:34.809)
Thanks.
I'm going to go ahead and start the presentation. So I'm going to start with the presentation. This is like the first presentation I've made. So this is the first presentation I've made. So I'm going to start with the presentation.
Allison (10:49.182)
It's really cool that RU Beta, it seems like, has the words and the language and the space for integrating the energetics and the thought with what's going on in your body in a way that maybe our Western system doesn't. Do you feel, I don't know, in terms of all of the knowledge that you've acquired, do you feel like really working with the energetics is a big, really important in terms of healing your mind, your body, your spirit?
Alicia Wilson (11:04.985)
Thank you.
Alicia Wilson (11:15.097)
Yeah, I think it's everything. I still currently practice as a registered nurse and what I find the most is that my clients tell me that their practitioners, their health practitioners, they don't listen. They don't listen to them and they don't look at them. How can you assess someone's health if you're not looking at the energetics of what they're saying and how they're showing up in your office?
And there's a lot that's missed when you're not looking at the energetics of a situation. Because something on paper is easily solvable like a puzzle. But when it comes down to it, it's a big sphere of stuff. We are holistic humans, and if you're not taking into account the other six layers of life, because physical is just one, there's seven, we're only getting like, what is that, like 10, 15 percent of the story.
Allison (12:13.262)
Hmm. That is so deep and so wise. That is so simple. Yeah. Wait, now that we're here, what are the, can you ramble off the seven layers? Off your, if you miss one or two, that's fine. I'm putting you on the spot.
Alicia Wilson (12:15.833)
No!
Erin (12:16.788)
I'm kind of blown away. You kind of just made me speechless there.
Alicia Wilson (12:25.721)
Yes, okay, let's see if I can remember them. I think I got this. I think I got this.
Erin (12:30.898)
I've never been actually introduced to the seven layers before, so.
Allison (12:34.27)
I don't think I have either, because I know like I'm very sick with yoga, but I cannot wait to hear it.
Alicia Wilson (12:35.609)
Okay.
Okay, so there's mental, emotional, physical, spiritual, causal, astral, and... Um... I think I might be missing one, but we got at least six of them. Did I say physical? I don't know if I said physical.
Allison (12:57.494)
Mental, emotional, physical, astral. I was trying to write them down. Causal.
Alicia Wilson (13:00.249)
Causal.
Alicia Wilson (13:04.345)
Mental, emotional, physical, astro-causal, emotional, spiritual. Yeah, so I got seven. I'm like, f-
Allison (13:09.294)
spiritual
Erin (13:10.74)
And forget about the Lord. Can't forget. He's always popping in to remind us on this podcast not forget him.
Allison (13:12.974)
Hehehehe
Alicia Wilson (13:13.273)
And forget about it!
Alicia Wilson (13:23.225)
Yeah, that's one of the things that's like main in my practice is that I try to get people to see that if you nourish the Spiritual level of life which you can nourish from all seven levels nourish the spiritual level life. It's going to fulfill
Whatever it is you're trying to achieve, it's going to get there for you, even if you don't feel it working. So like quantum leaping really has to do with connecting to our soul and our spiritual self.
Allison (13:55.054)
Yeah, well...
Erin (13:55.524)
So is that kind of like what you're doing when you're talking about like the quantum dream weaving aspect of everything? Like what, how do we unlock that? Cause that sounds so like juicy.
Alicia Wilson (14:07.449)
Okay, so the quantum dreamweaving is really about you becoming the quantum dreamweaver of your life because when this name for my company came to me, I had an epiphany after like having a lot of good sleep.
and this name just popped into my head after, I think it came to me in a dream, honestly. I woke up and I was like, this has to be quantum dream weaving. And I started to realize that it was like, all of these little tiny things that I was doing that one day I was waking up and like getting exactly what I wanted and I didn't have to like try. Like of course taking care of yourself, you have to try and that's work, right? But like, it feels good. And when you get into a nice little,
like routine of just doing things that take care of your body and your mind, it allows you to shift your energy to a place that just you start attracting what you want. You have no idea how it's showing up. You're just like, oh my God, like you're getting this text, like you're getting the money that you needed. Like you got a speeding ticket and you go to do a session and the person pays you way more than you thought you were going to do because it was that good. Like um...
Allison (15:25.5)
Yeah.
Erin (15:27.001)
Something tells me that's a real life example. I know Alicia sometimes she drives fast.
Alicia Wilson (15:29.305)
It is, it is.
Erin (15:37.609)
I'm out.
Allison (15:39.787)
See, well, this is so interesting, Alicia, because I think this is like, again, I think you and I have so much in common and it's so funny that I will take credit for linking Alicia and Aaron together, who became fast friends too, through some self-care consulting programming.
Erin (15:55.728)
Me and Alicia are connected, I think, on some quantum level as well. It's very strange. It's crazy because we've all been in each other's dreams. Like we didn't even know each other and we're like in each other's dreams. So it's interesting. There's little quantum dream weaving happening. Yeah, there.
Allison (15:59.334)
Y'all have known each other for a few lifetimes or something.
Alicia Wilson (15:59.769)
Yeah. So I'm convinced.
Allison (16:10.382)
Crazy.
Allison (16:14.326)
Together, yeah.
Alicia Wilson (16:14.329)
really is happening. You text me that I'm in your dreams. I have like random people that I've actually never met have only conversed with on the internet a couple times that will message me but like you were in my dream last night, like you were just standing in a forest like looking. And I'm like, what? Okay, that's like interesting. So yeah, when you shift your energy, like you just pop up in people's radars, and then they seek you out for what you want to offer.
Erin (16:40.9)
Wow. That's an amazing way to do business too. What a great way to get clients. I was in your dream. I mean, we all need to learn this so we can start feeding people's dreams.
Allison (16:40.947)
Yeah, well, it is.
Allison (16:45.342)
Right? I was in your dream last night, inceptioning you. So funny. Well, this is so interesting though, because I do think like, Alicia, even in terms of like the seven layers, right? It's like, you know, I think a lot of us are really aware maybe of the mental, emotional and physical, right? Which are maybe a bit more grounded, but that's only three out of the seven and the rest are very much like out here in the ether, the spiritual, like obviously it all comes together, but it's so interesting, like.
Alicia Wilson (16:58.745)
and I'm going to take a few minutes to get back to you. So, I'm going to take a few minutes to get back to you.
Allison (17:14.238)
I think traditionally, and maybe this is speaking more to like current American culture, is often to, I mean, I guess there's pockets of the culture that are very much into praying and that kind of gets into like the metaphysics of all this kind of stuff. But I think when we have like a physical ailment or a mental ailment, we don't think to like clear the negative emotional blocks, right? Like we think it's all in here, we think it's our fault, and like it's this whole thing, right? Where we can get like...
I think almost stuck in 3D, if that makes it like bogged down. And I think it's really cool even like, when I've been on the table with you doing like Reiki and various things where I can feel, I like at the end, I always feel, it's hard to describe, but I feel 20 to 30 pounds lighter, but it's an energetic lightness where I'm like, I feel like my feet could lift off the ground a little bit. And you don't even realize how much weight is there until someone helps you remove it.
It's wild. And that's why I always tell people with like reiki and things like that, it's really hard to describe it until you experience it. And so I always encourage everybody to try it out. Cause I'm like, once you feel this energetic shift, it's hard to describe. And it does seem like then you can accept things into your life easier and you can think clearer and you can move clearer. Like all of these things kind of all work in tandem.
Alicia Wilson (18:28.049)
Well, and you know what that is, Allison, that you're feeling? Like you laying on the table and working with me is you're believing in your body's ability to heal itself.
And it's like, it's belief. That's the spiritual aspect, is believing that our bodies are capable of doing what they're supposed to do, regenerate and heal. And that's self-referral healing. And so what I talked about before, like listening to my body and realizing that my career path was not gonna be right for me because my body told me so. Like that's self-referral healing. One example, and then another example is when you're laying on the table, like I am a conduit.
Allison (18:40.338)
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Alicia Wilson (19:10.169)
for the healing, a conduit for the wisdom and the knowledge and the earth energy and the universal life force energy. But what's really amazing is that I can't really take like a whole lot of credit for what your body's doing on its own.
Allison (19:24.222)
Yes, you can hold on. I'm going to interrupt you really quick because I think this is I feel so strongly about healing happening in community, like truly and actually and I'm going to even rope Aaron into this in terms of marketing, like I feel like my, my business has figured out who it is right and what it is and what it's here for with like her love and care and safety making right and like that trust like I do feel like that's this energy right that bounces back and forth and it like makes whatever your energy like
Alicia Wilson (19:37.593)
I'm going to turn it over to you. So, I'm going to turn it over to you.
Allison (19:53.386)
it makes it grow. But because my experience, I think being, again, being on the table with Alicia is that there is this level of like, because you're there facilitating a level of trust and relaxation that I get into, that I do not get into on my own. And I think there is that full release of, or any pockets of energy that my body is clenching and holding onto. And you are doing hands-on and you are doing little adjustments. Like you're letting, you're feeling where the energy is and you're making even physical adjustments, at least with craniosacral.
Alicia Wilson (20:20.475)
Well, yeah, and it's, I think it's a lot easier to set an intention as well.
Allison (20:23.378)
that's actually allowing things to flow. So you're a huge part of it. And even though it's like the body is the one that's actually clearing and cleansing and doing all of this, I do think there is something of like the teamwork together and the co-creation together that gets like so much deeper than I would have ever, if I wouldn't lay it on a table for an hour, that wouldn't happen the way that it would when you're there as a healer.
Alicia Wilson (20:50.521)
For me, I feel safer setting a huge intention when I'm setting it with somebody else or within a group. Because again, coming back to the energetic vibe that you're putting off into the world, if you're choosing a group to grow and impact or up level your vibe, then you're gonna be feeling that bounce back from them too. In fact, there's been scientific studies that have said like,
just a person in a room with another person, no hands on sitting in the corner with an intention of that person healing, that person experienced better outcomes than the person next door who had someone in the room sitting there thinking like not helpful thoughts. Cause they've done studies on this and I wrote a whole paper about it and it's so interesting.
Allison (21:41.43)
We want to read it, send it. Yeah, well, I mean, it's so interesting. The three of us have all talked about kind of, it's interesting in this day and age where I think we're realizing that we need so much more than maybe what some of our, again, like traditional Western society is. And it's so funny, because some of the stuff in terms of Arya Veda or Marma or Kri Nioseng, like a lot of this stuff feels brand new to us.
Erin (21:43.724)
Hahaha.
Alicia Wilson (21:45.593)
I'll send it.
Allison (22:11.026)
Even though it's like thousands upon thousands of years old, it's like this ancient, beautiful, like rich tradition. And I think it's so interesting. We all had a conversation earlier this year about intentionally trying to drop this label woo woo. Because, you know, it's because some people do scoff at this kind of stuff. Like they'll look at some of this and be like, I don't know what that is. And therefore I'm going to label it witchcraft or.
Alicia Wilson (22:13.977)
I'm going to go ahead and get started. So, I'm going to go ahead and get started.
Erin (22:25.7)
Mm-hmm. We need to drop it.
Allison (22:35.51)
Like some kind of, I don't know what it is and I don't understand how it functions and therefore I'm just going to assume that it's wrong, right? And until you go and experience it and having an open-mindedness to it. And I think we just, I think we're at this, this kind of point in society too, where things are shifting the way that we consume information, what information is available to us, like all this kind of stuff. I feel like there's this explosion of consciousness and like the self-healing realization that we're all having. And I think it's just so cool that you're like at the forefront.
You know, one of the healers that's like, let me bring this to people and let them know it's possible. Like, I just, I think it's really cool. Like, have you had really, like, some really amazing experiences with clients who've achieved results with you that they haven't with other people doing some of this energetic work?
Alicia Wilson (23:22.201)
Yeah, I've had a lot of people say that they feel
a lot safer with me compared to other people that they've seen. I don't want to get into like the wrongdoings of other practitioners. But I think the main thing is that I give people just a lot of space to feel whatever they feel and even people that aren't familiar with this sort of work that come and see me, they get off the table and they say
amazing things. Like I had a guy get off the table the other day that said, said, my throat, my throat is completely open. Like he, he could feel the energetic openness. And like beforehand we had talked, that was like what he was trying to work out was like speaking his truth. And then we do this work on the table and he gets up. He's like, he's like, first of all, he's like the carpet's moving. He's like, have you ever done magic mushrooms? I'm like, yeah, but why?
Allison (24:15.17)
Hehehe
Allison (24:21.517)
Yeah.
Alicia Wilson (24:22.873)
for why it's like the carpet's moving. I'm like, okay, this is interesting. So it really does, it really does bring you to a place where your neuroplasticity is increased when you get off the table. Like you're more moldable and malleable and you're more open and you're more able to take in information from a restful point. Like you have that restful activity and then you have the active rest.
Um, so when you're going out in the world, you're not feeling like hyper vigilant or overwhelmed because a lot of people I work with are highly sensitive. You guys are highly sensitive. So you know what I mean. So it's very important for us to feel safe in our bodies so that we can take in the sensory stimulus and not get overloaded by it.
Erin (25:12.096)
Mm-hmm. Yeah, that totally makes sense. I'm curious also, do people need to see you in person to get results or can they experience some of this virtually as well?
Allison (25:12.56)
Mm-hmm.
Alicia Wilson (25:25.145)
We can definitely do it virtually. First of all, one of my things to do is to teach people how to do this on themselves. In fact, that was the number one reason I started my practice was because I wanted to teach people how to do this themselves. Because what I tell people is that, you're gonna come see me once every week or once every two weeks for three, six, nine, 12 months, whatever, and then what are you doing the rest of the time? So in order to...
Erin (25:27.788)
Cool.
Erin (25:32.871)
Oh!
Alicia Wilson (25:53.817)
keep this momentum going and the work that you do with me, you literally, I don't wanna call it homework, but it kind of is like homework that I give people to help integrate this stuff. And it's really fun and it's really easy and it's really light. And it's like a lot of somatic work, a lot of breath work, a lot of self-touch. And the other thing I do is I can send Reiki virtually. So I do distance Reiki sessions and distance coaching sessions and.
Yeah, everything can be done online.
Erin (26:24.644)
That's amazing. That's really cool. I mean, it makes sense because energy is energy, right? So if we believe in that, if we know about when we know that exists, we should be able to harness it no matter where we are in kind of the universe, whether it's in person or virtually. So that's really beautiful that you offer that. I'm sure it was such a huge benefit as well, just like even with COVID situations and with people moving around, that's a huge comfort level to feel empowered to know that you don't have to give up that.
Allison (26:25.741)
guys.
Erin (26:55.044)
regardless of where you are. I'm curious, can we do a little, can you teach us a little bit of like what the homework would be like?
Alicia Wilson (27:05.241)
Okay, sure. So let's see. So one of the first things that I actually teach people
is to rub their hands together and kind of just feel.
Erin (27:17.38)
Okay, everyone, if you are listening, you wanna jump off and watch us on YouTube. We can experience it, everyone together. Ha ha ha.
Allison (27:24.014)
I'm going to go to bed.
Alicia Wilson (27:24.377)
Yes, don't do it while you're writing.
Allison (27:27.534)
Thanks for watching!
Alicia Wilson (27:29.625)
So just rubbing the hands together and just noticing the friction there and the change and what's happening in your body. So like before you started rubbing, you probably didn't feel any of the sensations that you're feeling now. And then go ahead and like stop rubbing and then like hold your hands apart, palms facing each other. Like, what do you feel? Can you bring a little closer? Rub together again and then bring them pretty close at first.
Erin (27:42.329)
Okay.
Erin (27:51.168)
Wow, my eyes. Yeah.
Erin (27:56.376)
Yeah, it feels like you're holding on to something. Like it feels like there's like a current there.
Alicia Wilson (27:58.937)
Yeah, yeah, that's your energy. So you can kind of play with it. Like it's a ball. Like it's a ball of your energy that you just created and just kind of like feeling around it. And then you can actually like expand your hands and like see like how far can you continue to feel that ball of energy. When I did this with my Ricky master, the first time I'm like, I could get them like this far apart and still feel it. But like, I don't know, I can feel it like.
Erin (28:02.82)
That's cool.
Erin (28:28.804)
It feels a little out here, like to get to here, it feels a little bit off. So I think I'm here right now.
Alicia Wilson (28:31.161)
Yeah.
Alicia Wilson (28:36.761)
Okay, okay.
Allison (28:37.658)
I always feel the most too when I like, kind of like start to squeeze it. I'm like, oh, like you can feel it like, like a magnet opposing. Yeah.
Alicia Wilson (28:41.401)
Yeah, yeah. That's how you could see me kind of going back in. That's one of the first things I teach people, because people, it was easy to feel your energy when we did that. It was easy to feel what you can't see.
Erin (28:54.264)
Mm-hmm.
Erin (28:58.4)
Yeah, it was palpable. I mean, it really felt like you were holding on to something.
Alicia Wilson (29:03.385)
Yeah, yeah. And the other, like, so yeah, and I always teach people with rubbing the hands together and then practicing self reiki. And typically a really grounding practice is to just put your hands on your legs after you rub your hands together and.
Alicia Wilson (29:24.153)
Just kind of feel the sensations that your hands feel against your legs and how your legs feel against your palms of your hands.
I'm just noticing.
what's happening in your body.
So it's not a complicated practice. It's a really simple thing that I think a lot of people want.
Something more to be going?
Alicia Wilson (30:01.241)
But it's really, even when I'm teaching marma therapy, I'm like, okay. Say for example, like one of the main points to do is this on the thymus gland. So the thymus gland stimulates your immune system. So you can tap, can tap on it. And this is like really similar, like the EFT tapping method. Like marma therapy is onto this way before.
Erin (30:11.114)
Mm-hmm.
Erin (30:25.24)
So everyone listening, the dimus gland is kind of like on your sternum, so like right where if you're wearing, I'm wearing a necklace now, but right if you're wearing a necklace, it's like kind of right where it would hit.
Alicia Wilson (30:36.185)
Yeah, so your sternal notch right in the middle of your chest and then just like kind of like right below that is your thymus. And you can like rub here, you can like tap here. So really soothing, calming practice if you're having anxiety or elevated emotions. If you're feeling like you're gonna get a cold, I recommend doing this like tapping or like rubbing or like even like that. It doesn't really matter, just like stimulating it. Dr. Ladd says,
Wake up honey! Wake up honey! He's so cute!
Allison (31:08.801)
Really cute.
Erin (31:09.708)
Actually, I feel a little bit more energetic now that we just did that. So if we're trying to also like work on our throat, so like a lot of the, for example, a lot of the work that I'm currently doing is like continuing to expand my voice. So if I'm sitting here, I'm like, oh, I need to post on social media, but I'm having a day where I'm like not feeling my voice. It just feels so blocked.
Allison (31:13.11)
Is it?
Alicia Wilson (31:13.305)
Yeah.
Erin (31:38.06)
What can we do to try and awaken and open up?
Alicia Wilson (31:42.265)
Okay, so what I would probably do is start to assess what's going on in your throat area. Like how does it feel? Like first and foremost, even before you put your hands on your body, I know I was just doing that, but like just kind of like, okay, like what do I feel in my throat? And like you're probably gonna say like you feel a lump or you feel closed off or like constricted. So opening that up with like a little bit of reiki and warmth.
Erin (32:04.146)
Amen.
Alicia Wilson (32:13.017)
and then there's some energy points on the throat. So I can't remember what these are called. So, but this right here, like right above your atom sample, like surprisingly, not a lot of pressure. You don't need a lot of pressure there because it's right on the atom sample, but just keeping your finger there with like a slight amount of pressure for like 60 to 90 seconds, mindfully.
Erin (32:26.478)
Yeah.
Erin (32:31.533)
I'm doubling it up.
Alicia Wilson (32:40.985)
maybe even chanting like a certain mantra in your head. Like if you like something like, or even you could even say om, you could om out loud with your finger here. You could do a mudra, could do the chin mudra and put your hand there. But generally because it's your throat and it's small, you could just use one finger. And I actually find that that opens up my throat a lot. The other one is,
Allison (33:08.854)
Hmm.
Alicia Wilson (33:10.585)
right above your clavicle. Like kind of like right in that little notch.
Erin (33:17.112)
hollow.
Alicia Wilson (33:19.257)
Kind of like right above, yeah.
Erin (33:22.368)
Oh, right above it. Okay. Yeah.
Alicia Wilson (33:24.313)
So like right here. Yeah, and that's another one. There's two on the side of your neck that you could do. Yeah.
Erin (33:33.752)
Yeah, those get really tight for me. And I constantly have knots here. So I have to work on.
Alicia Wilson (33:41.689)
And then last, to finish it off, I would say like, okay, so on your shoulder, like right here, this is Skanda Marma, I do remember that one. Like, you know how you get all that tension right there? Yeah, so on the pressure points, go ahead and like cross your arms and then like apply pressure. And so the other thing with Marma is it works on the inhale and the exhale.
Erin (33:55.764)
Yeah, I have a huge one right there right now. I can feel it.
Allison (33:56.252)
Mm-hmm.
Alicia Wilson (34:11.449)
So on the inhale, you release pressure, or I'm sorry. Yeah, on the exhale, you increase pressure and on the inhale, you release pressure. So working with those two marma points can really help loosen up the neck and you can even incorporate like stretching.
Erin (34:24.35)
Thank you.
Alicia Wilson (34:33.817)
and moving the neck left to right, and then like looking up and looking down.
Alicia Wilson (34:47.353)
Maybe letting out like a big sigh. That is always a really great one to open up this area.
Erin (34:56.326)
I feel better. The knot is still there, but it's less. So I think if I would work on it long.
Allison (34:57.63)
Yeah, for sure.
Alicia Wilson (35:03.449)
Yeah, yeah, and I think too, like when you're doing the energy points, like you're gonna feel relief immediately, but it will be a progressive relief that will, it will integrate into your day. Like as you're doing things later on, maybe you might notice that you're not having the tension as much because you've already helped release some of the emotional buildup that's there in the tissues. Cause that's what Marmot therapy is really working on. Like our emotions become crystallized.
Erin (35:10.083)
Mm-hmm.
Alicia Wilson (35:32.377)
in our bodies. That thing we can't see, that thing we can only feel, like that feeling is going to get stuck in your body if you do not give it a way to be processed, integrated, and released and transmuted really into wisdom for yourself. And Marma therapy really helps you do that because well, number one,
Erin (35:35.341)
Well, that's...
Allison (35:54.891)
Mm-hmm.
Alicia Wilson (35:58.713)
It decreases your physical pain, which allows you to not be thinking about it. And number two, it works on levels that we're not even seeing that we might be experiencing later on.
Erin (36:10.616)
Yeah, I feel so much looser. Like I feel like my whole chest has just been open. I feel like, I do feel like I released some weight. Like I feel lighter. Just from this small little exercise we did.
Allison (36:11.087)
See you.
Alicia Wilson (36:21.561)
Yeah, because it's like how often do you really like? I'm so happy you feel better. That's like amazing.
Erin (36:28.993)
I didn't know I was going to get a full on healing today. I was just prepared to work. It was amazing. Thank you. Hahaha. I'm so excited.
Allison (36:32.434)
Listen, we're going to heal everybody watching. This is amazing. Well, this is so interesting because like Alisha had mentioned something too about even like when you're working on people in terms of the belief that it's working, making it work. And this is something I think about all the time in terms of like people who are maybe skeptics of various like holistic practices, which you know what, like, listen, everyone's on their own journey. They probably have.
Alicia Wilson (36:34.617)
Ready?
Alicia Wilson (36:41.273)
I'm going to go ahead and turn it over to you. So, I'm going to go ahead and turn it over to you. So, I'm
Allison (36:56.618)
like reasons, right, or fear or whatever, right, or lack of knowledge at times, right, that can kind of manifest as like, I don't want anything to do with this, at least in my world, I feel like I encounter quite a few of those people. And it's interesting because I always bring up, you know, there's like lots of studies that show that the placebo effect is real and powerful and sometimes more powerful than medication. So that's really interesting. And from a spiritual perspective, like to me, that makes so much sense in terms of where we're sending our mind or even like, I have the intention to loosen here.
Alicia Wilson (37:09.113)
So, I'm going to go ahead and start the presentation.
Allison (37:26.398)
and I'm putting my finger here to feel it, right? And I have the intention and like, and working with, you know, the physicality of the pressure, but it's like, if attention is just consciousness, truly, which is different than like thinking or mind, right? It's like true consciousness energy, like that's what we all have. Isn't that like divine, like life source, right? I mean, if we really get into it, are we just putting divine life source energy like right there to where it hurts with way that we're, you know, like intentionally, like what we're intentionally,
Alicia Wilson (37:39.257)
Yeah.
Allison (37:55.882)
where we're putting our mindset and what we're saying, I'm releasing this now. I've already decided I'm releasing this now. Like I think that's the beauty of working with a healer and like putting your like commitment behind working on this stuff with someone, right? Don't you think? Cause it's like, we're doing the work. We're gonna let you go.
Alicia Wilson (38:08.761)
Yeah!
Erin (38:13.88)
We're human. Well, and I've been trying to get this knot out for the whole day because I woke up with it and it keeps coming back. So something I need to work on regardless, but it hasn't been releasing and it just is starting to release now. It feels a little bit looser. I really have been trying to get this out with just rubbing it without the energy piece. So.
Allison (38:23.514)
Mmm.
Erin (38:39.096)
This is a really cool real-time reminder of that physical and also metaphysical combined, how powerful that can be. I mean, we just had a real A-B test right here.
Alicia Wilson (38:54.393)
Seriously.
Allison (38:56.173)
real-time healing.
Erin (38:57.054)
I'm your little lab experiment.
Alicia Wilson (38:59.545)
There is literally studies that show that if a person is aware of the reason they're getting a medication, there's more medication in that person's bloodstream. So if you think that what you think doesn't affect your body, like, it's wrong. It does. 100% of the time, it affects your body, and it's even affecting what you're putting into your body and how well it will work.
Allison (39:12.27)
Mm.
Erin (39:13.145)
Wow.
Allison (39:20.694)
Yeah.
Alicia Wilson (39:29.689)
Do I believe this is a factor in holistic healing? 100% yes. If you have someone who's doing the holistic healing, but they also think it's never gonna work, it's not gonna be as successful for someone as who believes. And yeah.
Allison (39:48.11)
Well, don't you think it comes down to consent too? Because if you're putting up a wall of belief, it's because you don't feel safe, right? There's something about it, right? And sometimes that wall comes down as you kind of dip your toe in the water. But it's so interesting that you're mentioning even the study with the medication of like, I think about that too all the time of the consenting to the healing process. Because it's so funny, I've had enough Reiki at this point that every time I lay down, I'm like, I literally give consent, right, for this person to have access to every.
every inch of my energetics, right? Which is a very vulnerable thing to do, by the way, right? If you have any trauma from other people, right? People you trusted or anything like that. To do that, that act alone, I think, is a really brave symbolic thing of even breaking maybe other patterns if you tend to hide from others. To be like, I am exposed. I mean, I think there's just so many levels to this. It's really interesting. And it's so funny you're bringing this up, because I...
Alicia Wilson (40:37.401)
I think that's a great way to start a business.
Allison (40:45.118)
is I've intuitively worked with various people like who've had to go in for surgery or that kind of thing. Like if they know they're gonna do it, a lot of times we get into this, like having them go into surgery in a peaceful mindset rather than a fearful one and consenting the surgeons to cut them open, right? This is a trauma that's gonna happen. And if I energetically consent to this and be like, I'm going to work with them to heal me, right? And like, and I bless their hands and all this kind of, I mean, I think there's just so much power to this
Alicia Wilson (41:01.273)
I'm going to go ahead and turn it over to you. I'm going to turn it over to you. Yeah.
Allison (41:14.722)
on this metaphysical level, right? Like AIDS and our healing, you know? And again, if people aren't really steeped in this world, they might be like, what in the world are you talking about, right? But it is one of those things that I think it's just the magic of all of this is we do the studies and we see the outcomes and the outcomes are there. And we don't always know exactly how it works, but we know that it does. It's just wild.
Alicia Wilson (41:36.105)
And I love how you mess it, you mentioned vulnerability being an aspect of this process because I think we all know that if we wanna heal, we've gotta open ourselves up and being vulnerable in a really safe place with somebody that you trust is.
hands down one of the most healing experiences I've ever had. And with you, Allison, it was where it all started. When I started this Ayurveda journey and holistic healing, you were right there with me. And I know for a fact that if I wouldn't have found you, I don't know that I would be as far along as I am today. Because you gave me that face.
Allison (42:18.894)
which is why I do my work. Everyone needs, everyone needs Alicia's healing. No, I mean, truly, that's like, yeah, that's amazing to hear. I mean, in terms of, and it's so cool too, in terms of how much wisdom, I think especially women have, and especially if you've always been highly sensitive and drawn towards like healing stuff and heal yourself. I mean, it's just like, the world deserves to have you at your fullest, you know what I mean? I mean, it's just like such a beautiful thing and it's been really cool too, to see your life like.
Alicia Wilson (42:36.377)
Okay.
Allison (42:48.882)
expand and grow and to see you just like literally glowing more and more every time I see you. I'm like you're just a ray of sunshine, you know? Like once the pain is managed and some of the self-doubt, like all of these things that we all struggle with, right? It's like so interesting when you lift those things off, just like the beam of light that comes out of people. It's like stunning. So that's nice to meet you.
Alicia Wilson (42:56.313)
Yeah, and like I just sent you that thing this morning. It was like we aren't we aren't afraid of the darkness. Sometimes we're afraid of our own light. And in my journey, this was exactly it. I think a lot of people can relate to the fact that like we're
Allison (43:18.114)
Mm-hmm.
Alicia Wilson (43:23.769)
We're scared of what might happen if we actually did the things we were supposed to do. I've heard that come out of so many people's mouths and I'm like, oh my gosh, I can still relate. I can still relate. But the curiosity aspect of it, it just makes us so fun.
Erin (43:30.463)
Yes.
Allison (43:31.202)
Mm-hmm.
Allison (43:39.315)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Erin (43:39.868)
If anyone is feeling like they might be drawn to this work, either to do it themselves or to work with you, what would be your advice to them?
Alicia Wilson (43:50.073)
If they feel drawn to this work, I would say...
say well I would love to have you reach out to me at Quantum Dreamweaving on Instagram you could send me an email at gmail quantumdreamweaving at gmail I definitely want to talk to you
Erin (44:08.925)
She wants to talk to you. Well, she's got to get flooded. Watch out. You're going to get flooded now that you opened it up.
Allison (44:13.511)
Yeah.
Alicia Wilson (44:16.665)
definitely want to talk to you, but I definitely want you to find out what like what practices are resonating with you most and I would love to see you do some research on that because that's where we all started. I didn't just jump in and say I'm gonna go get some reiki one day after hearing the word reiki. No, I had a friend who told me about it and then I waited like two years to like make sure I you know had you know I mean and I think that's wise to just
See what you're getting yourself into, see what to expect, and see what you naturally feel drawn to, because as you're looking this stuff up, you're gonna be introduced into other things and what people have to say, and it's just a good way to start paving your own journey in this.
Erin (45:02.596)
I love it. So I think we actually have a two-part opportunity here. So I'm going to pause our conversation. Everyone, there's gonna be a second episode with Alicia. So hopefully you can check that out. But for now, this is where we're gonna leave you.
Allison (45:03.019)
Mm-hmm.
Alicia Wilson (45:19.385)
Oh, okay.