Another Pokémon Podcast

S1 EP04 | Hello Trainers, and welcome to the wonderful world of Another Pokémon Podcast! In this episode, Becs and Galutrad get 3D and battle it out in a no holds barred discussion all about Nintendo 64's Pokémon Stadium!
This episode features music by Duzzled & GameChops, titled "Red & Blue" from the album Dynamaxed, available on Apple Music and YouTube.


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Creators & Guests

Host
Becca "Becs" Jewell
Dog Mom. Bookworm. Pokémon Master.
Host
Jacob "Galutrad" Taylor
Fluffy haired content creator with golden retriever energy.
Producer
David Geisler

What is Another Pokémon Podcast?

It’s super effective! | Another Pokémon Podcast is a show wherein we talk about all things regarding the Pokémon series!

Galutrad:

Welcome back to another episode of another Pokemon podcast. My name is Gallatrade.

Becs:

My name is Bex.

Galutrad:

And today, we are going to be talking about Pokemon Stadium.

Becs:

Whoo. And there goes the battle.

Galutrad:

That's right. But before we get started, how have you been, Bex?

Becs:

I've been doing pretty good. I have to travel next week for work. So, you know, there's the fun of, oh my gosh. I have to make sure I pack and a little worried about things slipping through the cracks while I'm gone. When I'm not working and when I'm not researching for this podcast, I have been trying to read again.

Becs:

I was doing really well with my book challenge this year, and then I kinda fell off. Other than that, just tearing up Tears of the Kingdom. I don't know what happened. I, like, dropped it, and now I'm, like, fully back in. And I have been waiting for you to tear

Galutrad:

it up. I have a comment

Becs:

with a date of my theories, and I've been wanting to talk about it with you. Well, I mean, I've gotten pretty far. I'm excited to, I'm excited to talk about it with you. I just plugging away when I can. What have you what have you been up to?

Becs:

What's going on with you?

Galutrad:

Yeah. So I've been doing a lot of important projects at work, which has been going really well. I've been playing a lot of Pokemon Stadium in preparation for this episode, and I also have started a play session of games at work. We play during our lunch and 15 minute breaks, and we've been playing 9 Parchments, which is a kind of wizarding Diablo style game, and then also enter the gungeon, which is a rogue like bullet shooter. Yeah.

Galutrad:

I've been having having a lot of fun with playing games as I always do. Other than that, not really a whole lot going on with me, to be honest.

Becs:

Except for Pokemon Stadium.

Galutrad:

Pokemon Stadium.

Becs:

Yeah. I've never heard of those games. I'll have to I'll have to check them out. You said they're available on Switch?

Galutrad:

Yeah. They are all and I think they're also available on, like, pretty much every other thing. They're both indie games, 9 Parchments and Into the Gungeon.

Becs:

I'm glad you I'm glad you found people to play with that actually play like a normal person instead of like a raging anger monster, which is me.

Galutrad:

What? You it's so hard to get you to play co op games with me. Speaking of finding people, we have got some listener feedback.

Becs:

We do.

Galutrad:

So if you're okay with it, Becks, I'll get into it with the first listener feedback here.

Becs:

Yeah. Of course.

Galutrad:

Alright. So from Rishtay, sent us a message on Discord saying, listen to your podcast. Loved it. Your voices are both great. Made me think back to my childhood and Pokemon Red for the first time.

Galutrad:

Good times.

Becs:

Aw. I love that. I love I love helping other people feel as nostalgic as we do when we talk about this stuff.

Galutrad:

Yeah. It absolutely. I've got also got a little bit of insight on Restreay in the sense that Restreay is part of the Otter Kingdom community, which is Galatrade related stuff. And I know for a fact that they are currently playing through leaf green.

Becs:

Oh, I love okay. This might be a hot take. I love fire red and leaf green.

Galutrad:

Fire red and leaf green are fire.

Becs:

They're Oh, no. Yes. They're they are fire. They're just they were like they're like exactly what I needed at the time, because I think they didn't they come out after the Hoenn games?

Galutrad:

I believe that they did come out after the Hoenn games.

Becs:

So they have that, like, kind of, like, bright Yes. Kind of vibrant style to them. Yeah. It it was nice.

Galutrad:

As someone who grew up with the original games on Game Boy Color, that which had some color to them. Right. It was so awesome seeing them just perfectly made.

Becs:

Well and, like, something I took for granted as a kid. As an adult, if you go several days or weeks even without picking up a game, you're like, wait. Where where am I? What was I doing? And that game introduced the kind of this is the on the last episode of you playing FireRed Yeah.

Becs:

And it, like, showed you I'm a white. Yeah, what you did.

Galutrad:

Mhmm. Didn't it also come with the did it come with the little connector that made it so that you could wirelessly transfer? Or

Becs:

That was the I know for sure that the Hoenn games had those

Galutrad:

Okay.

Becs:

That came with it. I don't know I don't remember fire, red, and leaf, green, ditter. Okay.

Galutrad:

I can't I know I had one, but and I don't think I would have bought it or rather had my parents buy it at the time.

Becs:

No. It came I'm pretty sure it came with because I I would not

Galutrad:

have bought it either.

Becs:

Yeah. So But, no, those are that was I appreciate that some I would hey, Pokemon, if you can hear this, like, Pokemon company, if you could bring that back or Game Freak, I guess, would be better.

Galutrad:

They don't really need to now because this everything connects just wirelessly. I know. But they shouldn't be that accessory.

Becs:

I'm sorry. Not the wireless, transfer. I'm talking about the the flashback reminding my old Oh, yes. My old brain. Yeah.

Becs:

What did I do 5 days ago the last time

Galutrad:

I played this? Yeah. It would be really nice. Yeah.

Becs:

It's hard enough remembering buttons. Like, as you know, like, my friend Stephanie and I are playing through The Last of Us 2.

Galutrad:

Yeah. Anytime you switch consoles and stuff.

Becs:

It's so hard to remember. I get I start playing last time I started playing, a clicker immediately attacked. I was like, how do I run? What do I do? Yeah.

Becs:

Yeah.

Galutrad:

So, yeah,

Becs:

it'd be nice if we could, you know, have give give a give us old timers a little breaksy. Okay?

Galutrad:

Yeah. Absolutely. So thank you so much, Restre, for that message.

Galutrad:

Oh, yes, sir.

Galutrad:

Wanna go ahead and take the next one?

Becs:

Yeah. Of course. So we did get it's very exciting. Yeah. We got some 5 star reviews over on we got a few on Spotify.

Becs:

We got a few on, Apple, podcast Yeah. Yeah. Which in case anyone doesn't know, that really helps our channel find new audiences and and really kinda puts us out there and gets us higher in the search results and all of that. So we really appreciate those ratings. If you're if you if you really, in your heart, feel like we deserve 5 stars, please give us that.

Becs:

If you don't, don't just don't leave

Galutrad:

or review.

Galutrad:

Yeah. Just don't.

Becs:

But no. For and on a serious note, we got a a lovely 5 star review from AZP is number 1.

Galutrad:

Hopefully, gonna change their username to APP,

Becs:

so it's a competition. Oh, it's not. No. No. No.

Becs:

No. No. We love our AZP.

Galutrad:

We do love our AZP friends.

Becs:

But it says, this is the first time I'll be able to say that I've been around since the beginning of a show. I'm so excited for this to grow over time. I first heard about this as a concept in AZP. Also, great to get a Pokemon podcast from 65. I started and all I had to listen to was a short bonus episode.

Becs:

I had to wait for episode 1 and it was worth the wait.

Galutrad:

Well, we are so glad to know that it was worth the wait in episode 1, favorite gym leaders, which was a great episode.

Galutrad:

Yeah.

Becs:

Yeah. We have a fantastic lot

Galutrad:

of fun to record for sure.

Becs:

So, yeah, again, thank you. AZP is number 1. That was very kind of you, and we really appreciate the feedback for sure. Gayeetra, didn't you didn't you before we really got started, didn't you churn up some some organic

Galutrad:

I did. That? I did. Yeah. So, I posted out on Twitter, x, whatever you wanna call it, asking people what their who their favorite gym leaders were, and we did get a couple responses to that.

Becs:

And they all said Flannery.

Galutrad:

No. Oh. Actually, I don't think anybody said Flannery. People. I know.

Galutrad:

However, one of them agreed with me, and that is Crispy Nintendo who said it's definitely gotta be Giovanni. Anytime I think of a gym leader, he's the first that comes to mind.

Becs:

Oh, crispy. How could you do this?

Galutrad:

He is the greatest

Becs:

Giovanni. So is my favorite character in Tilda's.

Galutrad:

And he is. Oh. The new Ganondorf.

Becs:

Honestly, yeah. Yeah. I could see it.

Galutrad:

Yeah. Absolutely. So thank you, Crispy, for that comment. Also, got a response to that tweet from blue fox ranger one who says, my personal most iconic gym leader is Piers. He's the first dark type gym leader, the 1st gym leader to have his own theme, which rocks.

Galutrad:

And he just he's just a kind person who does his best to help you during the post game. Overall, a pretty memorable fella. Black square emoji, white square emoji, black square emoji, white square emoji, which is a representative of peers for sure because he's

Becs:

got the

Galutrad:

black yep. Yeah. That black and white color scheme.

Becs:

Did you get your list from this feedback?

Galutrad:

No. I didn't actually, but that is

Becs:

that is fun service

Galutrad:

thing. No. Yeah. That is kinda funny that, some of the feedback did totally agree with me. So I I don't know if maybe the fans just like me more than you.

Galutrad:

Who knows?

Becs:

If anybody would like to agree with me on anything, that would be great. No. This was that was before. That was before. This is now.

Galutrad:

So thank you, Blue Fox Ranger 1, for leaving that comment on our Twitter posts. And to any of you out there who want a chance to have your comment be read out by us or just wanna leave some awesome feedback or say some cool things to us, you can reach out to us on our social media such as xorinstagram@anotherpkmnpod. Or, of course, you can leave us a review on Apple Podcasts, and we will read your comments there as well, and it's super appreciated.

Becs:

You know what it sounds like to me?

Galutrad:

What does it sound like to you?

Becs:

Sounds like you're about to end listener feedback without the most important piece of listener feedback that we've received all day.

Galutrad:

What important piece of listener feedback?

Becs:

I think you know what I'm talking about.

Galutrad:

No. I don't think we have to actually do that comment.

Becs:

So Allie, queen Allie, from my day job, who is my friend

Galutrad:

Oh, gosh.

Becs:

Thought it would be hilarious to pick on Gallaudet and said, I would like to request a podcast episode dedicated to you rating Pokemon on how much they'd enjoy delicious, gooey, stretchy mozzarella sticks. Snorlax would tear up some Mozzies.

Galutrad:

No. Absolutely not.

Becs:

So fun fact, Gallutrad revealed his Achilles' heel, which is that he hates mozzarella sticks, and it's true. I was eat I remember, like, we went to get k dogs. We went to get Korean corn dogs, and I got a giant mozzarella stick potato covered, glorious You sure did. Corn dog, and he couldn't watch me eat it. Literally couldn't watch it.

Becs:

It freaks him out. It's it's gross to him.

Galutrad:

There's something about cheese that gooey and and both hard not hard, but it's just gross. It's weird.

Becs:

But, yet, he could eat pizza.

Galutrad:

Because pizza's meant to have gooey cheese.

Becs:

Alright. Alright. Well, anyway, so Ali heard about this Achilles heel and has been relentless.

Galutrad:

Relentlessly. She will just randomly text me photos of the pizzas.

Becs:

It's great. But that that, I think, that's top tier listener feedback. I cannot believe you. Almost forgot.

Galutrad:

Honestly, maybe we'll run a poll. Yeah. Actually, you know what? We will, listeners right now right now, go to our Twitter page, and you can vote on the poll x page. And you can vote on a poll on whether or not we should do an episode on rating Pokemon based off of how much they would enjoy the gross mozzarella sticks.

Becs:

Or we could do a poll instead of that because I don't wanna do that episode. We could do a poll on are mozzarella sticks gross or not.

Galutrad:

There's a poll somewhere, so go go and vote on it.

Becs:

That's funny. No. Thank you, Ally.

Galutrad:

My goodness.

Becs:

And that does remind me. I I have to say, I think one of the most heartwarming experiences for me doing this is we're getting support from people that care about us that have never played Pokemon before

Galutrad:

Yeah.

Becs:

That are truly just like, hey. I listened to episode 0 or episode 1. I didn't know what you were talking about, but it was entertaining, and it it just warms my heart. My I didn't even tell you this. My boss's mom Yeah.

Becs:

Shout out shout out to to, Patricia if you if you can hear this. But my boss's mom said, wait. What's a Pokemon? Oh. I'm gonna listen.

Galutrad:

Oh my god.

Becs:

Isn't that cute?

Galutrad:

That's so cute.

Becs:

I love it. It made me happy.

Galutrad:

Yeah. And, of course, also, all of the people that do enjoy Pokemon have found us organically, have found us via AZP, all of y'all, everyone in the another Pokemon podcast community who shows up, thank you so much. Yes. We so much appreciate you listening. If you are too shy or just don't wanna share feedback or anything, you can also help us just by sharing the show with your friends and family.

Galutrad:

Telling people about the show goes a long way. So thank you so much.

Becs:

Play it and mute it. That's what I do with Gau You Tried streams of times when I want no. No. No. When I wanna support you, but I can't I can't listen

Galutrad:

to that. I often in stream well, not often, but a lot of the times I stream, do a lot of bigger streams while you're working.

Becs:

Yeah. When 24 hours stream. My my 40 well, 40 hours is normal workweek. My my, like, 70 hour workweek is when you stream the most. I'm like, oh.

Galutrad:

I always choose the best times for you to do 24 hour livestream.

Becs:

You do. Yeah. House sitting, you know, whatever. But anyway, yeah, let's why don't we why don't we jump into it?

Galutrad:

Yeah. Let's talk Pokemon Stadium.

Becs:

So for those of you who may not be familiar with this game, I did make a little bit of an intro so that you can just have, like, a quick synopsis of what this game even is. And then That's

Galutrad:

so thoughtful.

Becs:

Oh, thank you. And then we'll dive into the the the meat of the episode, the the the good sandwich deli meat.

Galutrad:

The slowpoke tail.

Becs:

The no. Oh, and sorry. I'm I'm a little scattered, but I also brought that none of you can see, but me and Gayathrad, but it's very exciting anyway. I have an original

Galutrad:

From your childhood.

Becs:

From my childhood Pokemon Stadium Battle Guide Guide Oh, man. Magazine.

Galutrad:

With Mewtwo on the cover as well as Blastoise and Charizard.

Becs:

Yeah. And you can you can well, you guys can't see, but you can see where I, like, as took a pen as a child and, like, doodled Mewtwo's outline.

Galutrad:

He's very popped there.

Becs:

He's very popped. But, yeah, it's it's a cute little guide. I really I have a thing for video game guides in general, and it start clearly started in my youth.

Galutrad:

Yes.

Becs:

Because I have every I have every Pokemon game guide that I that I can think of anyway, except for the original gen 3 guide and then the original red, blue, yellow guide. So I don't

Galutrad:

have those. I'm not even sure if they released guides for those.

Becs:

Even, like, app kind of aftermarket guides, maybe?

Galutrad:

Maybe. I

Becs:

don't know. They had to have released at least gen 3 because I have a silver guide silver and gold guide somewhere. Yeah. Johto guide.

Galutrad:

Maybe we'll do episodes on that.

Becs:

Yeah. Yeah. But I it it's just got it's got, like, different, like, things different tips and tricks, different fun facts about the game. Got the whole breakdown of, like, what each trainer in Pokemon Stadium has. It has the little Pokedex in here.

Becs:

It's really cool. It's a really cool little guide, and I I, I hope you've enjoyed kinda looking through it.

Galutrad:

Yeah. Absolutely.

Becs:

So, anyway, back to my intro. Sorry. Yep. Pokemon Stadium is an n 64 game that first released to Japanese audiences on April 30, 1999, where it was known as Pokemon Stadium 2, successor to the Japan only released game Pocket Monsters Stadium. And it would make its way to North American, European, and Australian markets the following year.

Becs:

While mostly known for its turn based strategy Pokemon battles, it also has other features including mini games and a Pokemon only Game Boy player. This game can be enjoyed solo or with other trainers.

Galutrad:

Yeah. So so Pokemon Stadium. Pokemon Stadium. Pokemon Stadium.

Becs:

What are your immediate thoughts?

Galutrad:

On Pokemon Stadium? Talk to me.

Becs:

Tell me everything. So there's something that you mentioned in your intro, which was

Galutrad:

beautifully written,

Galutrad:

by the way. It had a lot of great information.

Galutrad:

I think, intro, which was beautifully written, by the way. It had a lot

Galutrad:

of great information. I

Galutrad:

think the biggest thing is the fact

Galutrad:

that I don't know if

Galutrad:

a lot of people know that Pokemon Stadium is actually Pokemon Stadium 2 in Japan. Right. Yeah. The thing that kinda was an interesting take to me, and maybe this was just based off of our childhoods, but I I don't remember it for the stadium mode that much. I remember it mostly for the kids club as

Becs:

a kid. Yes.

Galutrad:

Which makes a lot of sense to be a kid.

Becs:

Yeah.

Galutrad:

Because the stadium was hard.

Becs:

It's still it's still is hard.

Galutrad:

I was I've I've been playing through it, and all I can say is thank Nintendo and Pokemon for retries. And because the gym league battle and the stadium is it is so, so difficult.

Becs:

Totally. Yeah. And I almost felt like I we can we can dive into it a little bit more when we talk through it, but I almost felt like while I was playing it as an adult because I thought, oh, yeah. I remember this being tough as a kid, but I'm grown now. It won't be tough anymore.

Becs:

And I remember I re you know how the Nintendo because I I for the purpose of this research, I did not boot up my old N64 and plug it in and do all that. I use my Nintendo Switch online because it's it's convenient. It's there. I'm already on Tears of the Kingdom. I might as well switch over to Aquaman Stadium.

Galutrad:

Aquaman Stadium. Yeah.

Becs:

So I was playing on that. And you know the feature where you can, like, rewind?

Galutrad:

Yes.

Galutrad:

Mhmm.

Becs:

Guess how many times I rewind rewinded? Rewind? Rewind. Rewind the

Galutrad:

Now it doesn't sound right, but okay.

Becs:

I pressed the rewind button several times.

Galutrad:

Yes.

Becs:

I think probably at least 10 times. I tried to restart this one trainer, and I was like, I give up.

Galutrad:

Oh my goodness.

Becs:

And that was my that was my contribution to playing Pokemon Stadium. Dratini kept using wrap, and I was wrapped, and I couldn't get out.

Galutrad:

Oh, man. Yeah. Wrap and I think bide? No. Not bide.

Galutrad:

Bind were are some nasty moves in Pokemon Stadium.

Becs:

Tentacruel and Dratini be using those a lot. Yeah.

Galutrad:

Mhmm. And Onix as well, obviously. He's a he's a big one for that. But it's also it's also weird because, like, something that I think that a lot of I guess I shouldn't be generalizing like that, but myself personally, I go into Pokemon battles and despite the levels being the same, I look at it and it's like, oh yeah, this is a level 50 Caterpie versus my level 50 Zapdos. Of course, my Zapdos is gonna win.

Becs:

Yeah.

Galutrad:

And then the Caterpie attacks, and in my brain, I'm like, there's that's not gonna take any health off at all, and it takes, like, a decent chunk.

Becs:

It seems like, mechanically, the game is easier, but, like, there's just something I I don't I really don't know. Like, I if I if I if I was if I was not my age, I would think the game was cheating because it just it just every time you think you've got it, something happens where you just don't.

Galutrad:

Yeah. Absolutely.

Becs:

It's very strange strangely challenging.

Galutrad:

It is. It is very strangely challenging. So, yeah, other than that, like I said, the biggest takeaway from your intro, I think, is the fact that it is Pokemon Stadium 2 in Japan. And if you don't mind, I'd love to talk a little bit about, what is Pocket Monsters or Pokemon Stadium.

Galutrad:

Oh,

Becs:

I'd love that. Yeah. I don't, is just I'm just guessing before you start, and, you know, please, you know, delete me if you don't wanna hear this. But I I isn't it like wasn't Pokemon Stadium or Pocket Monsters or whatever the original one called? Wasn't that like like a like, almost like a Pokemon Stadium lite?

Galutrad:

Yes. Very much so.

Becs:

Okay. In the

Galutrad:

international release of Pokemon Stadium 2 in Japan, it had

Galutrad:

all 151 Pokemon available to you, technically.

Galutrad:

I think I'm sorry. 150? I'm not actually sure about the 151. You you can definitely

Becs:

get Mew in the game.

Galutrad:

Oh, I guess if you were able to transfer it from the transfer pack. So, yeah, it has yes. So in Pokemon Stadium in Japan, which was released August 1, 1998, so a year before the release of Pokemon Stadium 2 in Japan, you only had access to 40 Pokemon.

Becs:

Oh, wow.

Galutrad:

40. And it's not even all of the fully evolved forms. For instance, my boy, Raichu, not in the game. Oh my god. Pikachu is, though.

Galutrad:

They put Pikachu

Becs:

Well, yeah. Of course, they

Galutrad:

put him in.

Becs:

That's still better than what was the Wii game that came out that was, like, kind of a, like, a battle royale

Galutrad:

Pokemon? Battle revolution.

Becs:

Yeah. There's still more Pokemon than that game. So because I'm pretty sure wasn't there only, like, 20 in that game?

Galutrad:

Don't remember. I actually never played Pokemon Battle Revolution.

Becs:

It might have actually I might be lying about it being on the Wii. It might have been on the Switch. Well, I played it in college. I I couldn't remember who I played it with or anything, but but there it was definitely almost like a Super Smash Brothers, but it was just Pokemon.

Galutrad:

Interesting.

Becs:

And it was like I feel like it was less than 40, for sure. But yeah. So, I mean

Galutrad:

Yeah. More than that Beats that. Something that is really cool about that, though, is that in that version, there was a tournament mode. And the tournament mode actually the CPUs that you would battle in tournament mode were actually based off of the competitors in a 1997 Pokemon tournament in Japan. So those competitors had their likeness and their teams put into Pokemon Stadium.

Galutrad:

They were immortalized in the Yeah.

Becs:

In that tool, that's a I wanna be immortalized. Hey. Maybe they could put some podcast characters in the next game.

Galutrad:

Probably not.

Becs:

By the way, just segueing back really quick, you can absolutely get Mew in the game because it says on here, if you don't have Mew, you'll have to rent it for the r two master cup. So you can rent Mew

Galutrad:

in there. Maybe it's in round 2, which is something that I wouldn't have known because as a kid, I definitely never unlocked a round 2. Yeah. But we will talk more about round 2 here in a little bit. One final thing that I wanted to mention about the Japanese original Pokemon Stadium was that if a player clears the Master Ball division on the level 1 to level 30 challenge with a Pikachu, that Pikachu can learn surf.

Becs:

And this is Pocket Monsters.

Galutrad:

This is Pocket Monsters Stadium. Yes. Yeah. But so those are all of the things that are, unique to the original, like, the actual actual Pokemon Stadium or Pocket Monsters Stadium, but we are here to talk about Pokemon Stadium.

Becs:

Yeah. They so the

Galutrad:

International release.

Becs:

The international release Pokemon Stadium, it was the first one to hit our shores, European shores, Australian shores, but, Japan had the Pocket Monster Stadium, and then they knew the game that we grew up with as

Galutrad:

Pokemon Stadium 2 or Pokemon Stadium 2.

Becs:

Stadium 2. Yeah. Which we'll talk about Pokemon Stadium 2 that we know later based on the Johto region because we are not actually as familiar with that one. I remember, like, renting it from Blockbuster, but Yeah. This was, like, prime childhood me Yep.

Galutrad:

Pokemon Stadium. Absolutely.

Becs:

And Snap. But that's also another game for another time.

Galutrad:

Yeah. No.

Becs:

That's great. I love that. I because I knew I remember, like, I knew about the fact that it was the, technically, the second in the in the series, like a like a like a success a direct successor to Pocket Monsters

Galutrad:

Mhmm.

Becs:

Stadium, but I've never actually seen, like, gameplay. Like, I've seen, like, a in a, what's that channel we we watch with the Did You Know Gaming?

Galutrad:

Did You Know Gaming.

Becs:

Okay. There you go. Did You Know? We we watched several, obviously, a bajillion Pokemon episodes from Did You Know Gaming and other video game where they where they tell you fun facts about the gaming or series or, like, Easter eggs or, like, stuff like that. And I've seen some minute footage of Pocket Monsters Stadium

Galutrad:

Yeah.

Becs:

In that game, but that's it.

Galutrad:

Yeah.

Becs:

So that's very that's very cool. You actually too, you can get surfing Pikachu in this game too. Yeah.

Galutrad:

You can. It's just under a different method

Becs:

Right. To

Galutrad:

get surfing Pikachu in Pokemon Stadium in the international version. But in the international version, there are a bunch of different game modes that you have accessible to you. Those include free battle

Becs:

Mhmm.

Galutrad:

Which is where you can battle other players or CPUs with stadium rules. There's also within the free battle mode, you can choose the anything goes rules, which is the only way that you're able to battle with anywhere from 1 to 6 Pokemon Mhmm. Normally under the stadium rules, they lock you into choosing 3 of your 6

Becs:

Right.

Galutrad:

Which is interesting because that is something that I think influenced how competitive Pokemon works. Because now in competitive Pokemon, it's double battles, which not a thing in Pokemon Stadium. But you do bring in a full team of 6, but then you only get to choose 4 of them for the battle. So there's a little bit of, like, oh, they've got Charizard and Moltres, or they've got Charizard and and Blastoise, but are they gonna bring which one are they gonna bring?

Becs:

Well, so they you can play you do bring your team of 6 to the actual Pokemon Stadium tournaments and just choose 3.

Galutrad:

Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Okay. It's like you it shows. If you were playing against another player

Becs:

saying 4, you you choose 4 instead of 3

Galutrad:

in any of those. Pokemon. No. No. In anything goes anything goes mode is you bring all 6.

Galutrad:

You you and I could have a full battle of all 6 Pokemon.

Becs:

Oh, I'm so sorry. Yeah.

Galutrad:

I see

Becs:

what you're That's okay. Yep.

Galutrad:

Which is super cool because that's, like, the best way and keep in mind, I think you've got a comment on this, but this is for back in the day, this was our first time seeing 3 d Pokemon.

Becs:

Oh, yeah. I have a note about that. No no one these kids today, they they don't know how cool that is because we have so many three-dimensional Pokemon games.

Galutrad:

Yeah. Just games in general.

Becs:

They're just they just are. Yeah. Like, shield, all of the the main the main line games

Galutrad:

Since x and y.

Becs:

Is x and y still

Galutrad:

top tier now, right? Well, it's kind of an isometric camera, but it is still 3 d models.

Becs:

Oh, in the battle modes and stuff. Okay. Okay. So, like, since x and y, everything's been 3 dimensional. And then before that, you've got Pokemon Colosseum and Pokemon TV and Pokemon well, Snap is pretty old, but you know what I mean.

Becs:

All of the games up until this point, they were all very much 2 d top down games. This is the first time we saw them in 3 d.

Galutrad:

Yeah.

Becs:

It was It was very cool.

Galutrad:

It I mean, it blew our minds.

Becs:

I I don't know if this is a hot take, but I think it graphically held up pretty well.

Galutrad:

I kinda do too. Yeah.

Becs:

You know? It's got some we'll talk about it later. It's got some choice, fainting, and attack movements. And for some of the Pokemon, especially

Galutrad:

My my boy, Alakazam, is the coolest Pokemon ever.

Becs:

Some of them look downright terrifying. Do you know when you when you were talking about Hypno

Galutrad:

Mhmm.

Becs:

And I was like, oh, Hypno is terrifying.

Galutrad:

Yeah. Yeah.

Becs:

I was thinking of Hypno In Pokemon too. Psychic. Yeah. Or and Drowsy too. They they both just kind of, like, their eyes flash and the the blue and black magic around them, and it's, like, new.

Galutrad:

Yeah. They they went kinda all out on the animations for this game. Yeah.

Galutrad:

A lot

Galutrad:

of the Pokemon have some really unique animations because that was where that was the focus of this game was showing Pokemon off in 3 d.

Becs:

And they have their they have their cries. Like, they the detail that they put into this game is what, I think I think, truly what makes it stand out. Like, it's not it's not just, oh, here's another battle royale game. It's here. You can play with all 151 Pokemon, which was a big deal at the time.

Becs:

That's that was all of them.

Galutrad:

Yeah.

Becs:

Yeah. You you can you can battle with your friends. You can I mean, we didn't have Wi Fi then, but you can battle with your friends in in your living room

Galutrad:

Mhmm?

Becs:

On the couch. You can play mini games with your annoying brothers. You can you can play solo mode and take on the the the gym leaders and the elite 4. Like, there's there's so much to do in this spin off game. Yeah.

Becs:

Yeah. Truly. Truly. Yeah. Yeah.

Galutrad:

It will And

Becs:

you can rent any Pokemon you want. You don't you don't have to go level up a bunch of Pokemon. You can just pick the Pokemon you want.

Galutrad:

On your team. Right. Yeah. It's super cool.

Becs:

No Ultra Ball needed.

Galutrad:

No. You could just try out Pokemon if you wanted.

Becs:

That's right. So I guess when I thought when I was like, what are your initial thoughts? I was like, the vibes for me. I like I'm I'm serious. Like, as soon as I as soon as that black screen comes on, you hear, peeka.

Galutrad:

And then

Becs:

the like But you hear, you know, you hear that, and it's like it's like, oh, oh, we're about to go to battle. We're about to do something. Like, it just it just, like, it just makes you feel like you're a Pokemon trainer, and it's, like, it's very nostalgic. And I don't know. It's just kinda exciting, and then, like Pikachu, I think, like, like, falls down with, like, jigglypuff and, like Yeah.

Becs:

Cute little This is fun.

Galutrad:

It's fun.

Galutrad:

The intro's super cute. The vibe is super good. It is. So there's also stadium mode, which is the main game mode to like, it is kind of the meat and potatoes. It wasn't really the meat and potatoes for me personally as a kid.

Galutrad:

I think now if I were to really sit down and, like, actively try to beat Pokemon Stadium or, like, a 100% Pokemon Stadium, it definitely is the meat meat and potatoes of the game because it features 4 different cups, which are the pika cup, the petite cup, the poke cup, and the prime cup.

Galutrad:

Mhmm.

Galutrad:

And each of those are at 4 different levels, or the last two of those, the poke cup and the prime cup, have 4 different levels to them. Becs, what are those levels?

Becs:

Poke Ball, Great Ball, Ultra Ball, and Master Ball.

Galutrad:

I believe the 2 final cups, especially beating them on Master Ball, is gonna become really important to unlock some of the secret things

Galutrad:

Mhmm.

Galutrad:

That you can unlock in Pokemon Stadium. So really important modes. Gotta say, I honestly don't think I ever even touched state maybe I tried stadium once as a kid, but I for sure never touched this next mode as a kid, which is the gym leader castle mode.

Becs:

Oh, I did.

Galutrad:

It actually scared me.

Becs:

It was terrifying looking because it Yeah. Didn't when you click on the castle, it doesn't, like, lightning strike.

Galutrad:

There's it this is, like, a dark cloudy background.

Becs:

Yeah. No. The stadium mode, it it's fine. It's, like, it's just it it it is truly just a go go go battle, battle, battle because that's that's the point of the game. I will say I like that as you're going to earn your gyms, there's, like, 4 trainers for each There

Galutrad:

is. Yeah.

Becs:

Gym badge to in in the Poke Cup and Prime Cup and Petite Cup and all that. Yeah. Yeah. I did like it, but it was just it it was intense no matter what. Because you also once you picked your 6 Pokemon, that's all you you were in it to win it for 8 badges, which is 8 times 4.

Becs:

32 trainers. Same 6 Pokemon. Yep. Good luck.

Galutrad:

Yeah.

Becs:

And with increasing difficulty, obviously, each each badge, but also each individual trainer was difficult too. So, yeah, it was it was tough to pick 6 Pokemon that you're just dedicated to. It's like, you know, when you're playing the normal games, you can go back to your PC, and you can switch them out. Mhmm. And that is not the case, Pokemon Stadium.

Becs:

I think you forgot to mention that petite cup is the best cup that

Galutrad:

it is. So okay. So petite cup, going a little bit more into it, is you are only able to use unevolved Poke or or Pokemon that have not reached their final evolution.

Becs:

Babies.

Galutrad:

Baby Pokemon. That mode got transferred into a form of competitive Pokemon called the little cup.

Galutrad:

Oh.

Galutrad:

Yeah. Where specifically in the little cup, I believe, I might be wrong on this, but I'm pretty sure that you are they go one step further where you can't even use the middle evolutions Oh. Of Pokemon. You can only use the basic evolution, the basic starter Pokemon.

Becs:

Can you use the metal evolutions in the petite cup? Because I thought it was just the first evolutions.

Galutrad:

I think you're able to.

Becs:

Let me consult my guide really good.

Galutrad:

Absolutely.

Becs:

You're limited to the first evolutions of the first 150 Pokemon, so there's only 45 Pokemon. Same rules as before where you choose 6 Pokemon, then you pick 3 of the 6 each battle. Yeah. But your your leveling, you have to do levels 25 through 30.

Galutrad:

Yes.

Becs:

Now let me tell you a little something about renting these Pokemon.

Galutrad:

Okay.

Becs:

When you rent the Pokemon for the petite cup, they all 25. Yeah.

Galutrad:

Oh.

Becs:

So you can go against 3rd level 30, and that may not

Galutrad:

sound Really?

Becs:

That may not sound like a big deal.

Galutrad:

That's a huge deal.

Galutrad:

That's a

Becs:

big deal.

Galutrad:

It's a massive deal.

Becs:

I think it's the best one because it's the cutest one to, like, play. It is very cute. It's it's challenging because you're limiting yourself to the the,

Galutrad:

Weaker evolutions.

Becs:

The weaker evolutions. Yeah. And and not only are they weaker, but they're tiny. And if you rented your Pokemon like I did, that's challenging. And then even if you don't rent it, you have to, like, strategically plan it out.

Becs:

Like, okay. My Pokemon is our level my Pokemon that I wanna use for Pokemon Stadium are levels 25 through 30.

Galutrad:

In the Pokemon games.

Becs:

In the Pokemon games. I I I need to stop and play that real quick. So it's like it's just kinda it's it's challenging. I don't know. Yeah.

Becs:

Anyway yeah. Oh, that's what it is. They have to they're Pokemon young Pokemon, unevolved that weigh £44 or less and are 6 foot 8 inches or smaller.

Galutrad:

Wow. Yeah. Interesting.

Becs:

That's why Omix is

Galutrad:

Man, that was that was even more specific, I think. Because I'm I'm pretty sure that Little Cup in competitive Pokemon although, I I haven't myself dabbled in it that much. I've only really heard about it.

Becs:

Time to dabble and report back.

Galutrad:

Yeah. Absolutely. So it could be kind of the same rules, but it'd be interesting to know if that's where that came from. So gym leader castle is the next

Becs:

mode. Spooky, spooky, spooky, spooky.

Galutrad:

Very spooky. In gym leader castle, you face against all of the Canto gym leaders followed by the elite 4 and finally your rival.

Becs:

All of them?

Galutrad:

All of them.

Becs:

So they spoil Giovanni.

Galutrad:

They spoil Giovanni.

Becs:

Oh, we won't have words, Game Freak. But you have Is it Game Freak at this point for Pokemon Stadium?

Galutrad:

Yeah. Okay.

Becs:

It is.

Galutrad:

But you do have to get to Giovanni first, which is made difficult by the fact that every every it's hard and every gym leader has 3 apprentices with them, much like the stadium mode. And those apprentices in the Pokemon games, you go into Brock's gym and you know that his guys that are standing in the gym, they're gonna help him out. They all have rock type Pokemon because that's what Brock uses in Pokemon Stadium. That is not the case. They are specifically designed to mess you up.

Galutrad:

So if you go in and you're like, oh, this is Brock's gym because in gym leader mode, you are in gym leader castle. You are actually able to change your Pokemon from gym to gym.

Becs:

Oh, that's nice.

Galutrad:

But so if you do if you're unsuspecting and you're like, this is the rock type gym, I'm gonna bring all grass types. Guess what? Those 3 assistants have fire type Pokemon.

Becs:

That is wrong. So you

Galutrad:

still have to actually, like, plan out a good team to be able to react to whatever they these other team Pokemon might bring. And just like we were saying with the free battle and stadium modes is that you see their team of 6, but it's randomly generated as to what they bring.

Becs:

Looks like a bad Pokemon choice.

Galutrad:

That is a good time to take a break from talking about the game modes and talk about some of the awesome quotes that you hear in the Pokemon Stadium game.

Galutrad:

I don't know if

Becs:

you know this, but I'm a nerd.

Galutrad:

Yeah. I did know that.

Becs:

My most quoted games of all time are Pokemon Stadium, Pokemon Snap, and Mario Golf. Yes. And I quote them a ridiculous amount of time. All the time. Like, unless you're counting me singing Zelda music, that is what I quote.

Becs:

Mhmm. Right. So some of my favorite quotes from this game I'm laughing so much already. Okay. They're staring each other down, and there goes the battle.

Galutrad:

There it goes.

Becs:

There's a distinct difference in the number of remaining Pokemon. Will this Pokemon swap change the flow of battle? Looks like a one hit wonder.

Galutrad:

Obviously, a, quote that comes out whenever you one shot a Pokemon and make them faint.

Becs:

Looks like a bad Pokemon choice.

Galutrad:

Wonderful.

Becs:

It's so funny. Like, I what hey, Game Freak. What is that narrator doing today? Like, is is he how is he doing? Like, did he did he go on to do more narrating things?

Galutrad:

I hope so. I wish they would bring that back for

Galutrad:

the

Galutrad:

regular Pokemon.

Becs:

Do we know who he is?

Galutrad:

Yeah. So according to IMDB, which is my favorite place to go for checking movies, games, and things like that for casting. So shout outs to Ted Lewis. I don't know anything else that he's in because that's all it seems that he's credited for, but excellent job.

Becs:

Thank you for being

Galutrad:

the announcer.

Becs:

Thank you for being the sound of my childhood, Ted Lewis. And it's

Galutrad:

it's so funny too because the quotes are random and kinda weird, but they're very endearing.

Becs:

Yes. Yeah.

Galutrad:

Yeah. They're super endearing and

Becs:

I just I like using them in context but out of context. Like, I like when like like, if you drop your soda, I'm like, and there goes the medal. It's just fun. It's like it's very they're very, they stand out, and he's he's a very dynamic announcer. Like, they did a good job making you feel like you are participating in some kind of sporting event.

Galutrad:

Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely.

Becs:

They kept it super exciting and, like, it's like listening to, like, WrestleMania or something in the nineties. Like, it's very, like, engaging and a lot of energy and very quotable. Very, very

Galutrad:

Very quotable. Yeah. Wonderful quotes. Thank you so much for sharing those with us.

Becs:

Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you to the original Ted Lewis. And thank you to me for screaming them at myself in my notebook.

Galutrad:

Yeah. So back into some other game modes. We have arguably what you actually called the demo mode, but it is the battle now mode.

Becs:

That's what it seemed like to me.

Galutrad:

It and it really does. So battle now is it allows you to just get immediately get into a Pokemon battle, CPU, but I found out through doing some research it is you get randomly assigned one of 2 teams. So and that's it. Those are the it's the only 2 teams made available for you. So you could play it 20 times, and you'll always end up with 1 of these 2 teams.

Becs:

You know what it kind of made me, like and this is this may be wrong, but it this is what it made me think of.

Galutrad:

Mhmm.

Becs:

So, like, imagine it's 2,000

Galutrad:

Yeah.

Becs:

And you are walking through Walmart, and you see the demo Oh, that's right. Of, like, with the n 64 controller, like, kind of attached in the air.

Galutrad:

Yeah. Yeah.

Becs:

Yeah. The screen behind the screen.

Galutrad:

You always had to, like, crane your neck up to look

Becs:

at it because they're all

Galutrad:

in place.

Becs:

Or or it's in front of you. Like, GameStop has theirs, like, right in front of you, I think, and then Walmart had them above your head.

Galutrad:

Yeah.

Becs:

And then so, like, just just imagine, like, you go in and Pokemon Stadium is being advertised, and you can demo it now, and you can play battle now. That's what it made me feel. Like, they just accidentally left on all mainstream Pokemon Stadium games.

Galutrad:

Yeah.

Becs:

Like, it's like they have their Walmart demo

Galutrad:

Yeah.

Becs:

And they accidentally forgot to take it off. Because why That's

Galutrad:

a fun theory.

Becs:

I have the game.

Galutrad:

Yeah.

Becs:

I can you know how I can try the game out? By playing the game that I purchased, that I have in my possession. It's just weird.

Galutrad:

It is a very strange emotion.

Becs:

Because even because even then, like, you could argue, like, well, if you just wanna do a quick battle, there you go. But it's like, yeah. That's why they have free battle.

Galutrad:

That's that's true, but I am thinking of something is what if you are wanting to get your a friend into the game and they don't know Pokemon? So then

Becs:

Just show them how to get the Pokemon in free battle.

Galutrad:

Yeah. Okay. I I guess you're right. You could just tell them you could sit there and explain to them what the Pokemon are. I was thinking more like that way there's no, like, a 100% I could see myself as a kid doing this.

Galutrad:

It's being like, oh, yeah. You wanna choose you wanna choose Pikachu and Squirtle and Charmander. I'm gonna take Charizard and Blastoise and Raichu and Dragonite on my team

Becs:

rather than you are a mean child. I no. I I don't don't you don't you devil's advocate me. This is it's a terrible mode. Shame on you.

Becs:

That's the one thing you got wrong, Pokemon Stadium, is that and how difficult you are. Okay? The end. End of the podcast. Goodbye.

Galutrad:

Now a much more popular mode

Becs:

Yeah. Well, I hope so.

Galutrad:

The kids club features 9 different Pokemon themed mini games

Becs:

All wonderful. All perfect.

Galutrad:

All wonderful that are a blast to play. I'm interested to hear what your best one is.

Becs:

Should we rank them?

Galutrad:

No. We're not ranking the Pokemon minigames. So we're just gonna go through and, I think, explain these as we as we bring them up.

Becs:

You know, we could we probably won't rank them for this episode, but we could rank them. Like, we could do, like, an a tier, s tier, and publish our official Another Pokemon podcast ranking of the mini games. That would be exciting.

Galutrad:

That would be very exciting.

Becs:

Okay. So we should do that. Yes. Absolutely. And we will post it on X and Instagram.

Galutrad:

Absolutely.

Becs:

There's there's so many games, and there's they're all really fun.

Galutrad:

They are all a lot. I honestly don't think there's a single game that I don't like. I'm being serious. None of them are none of them are just straight flops, which I'll bring us in with what I'm thinking you might say is the worst, which is magic card splash. So let's talk about magic cards flash.

Galutrad:

Very simple game. You press the a button, and you make your Magikarp

Becs:

You make him splash.

Galutrad:

You make him splash.

Becs:

Flippity, floppity, uppity.

Galutrad:

To touch a button at the top of the screen, and whoever can hit the button the most in the amount of time wins.

Becs:

But timing is everything because if you splash splash splash too fast, then you don't splash splash splash

Galutrad:

too fast. You gotta you gotta you gotta jump basically kinda right as you're coming down.

Becs:

Yep. You have to you you gotta know you gotta you gotta get that maximum Magikarp bounce going.

Galutrad:

There's also Becks. What game do you wanna choose next?

Becs:

My favorite is the run ratata run.

Galutrad:

Oh.

Becs:

Where you're, like, the little ratata and you're hopping and you're racing and you have to hop over the hurdles?

Galutrad:

Yeah. It's so you're on, like, a little treadmill.

Galutrad:

Mhmm.

Galutrad:

And either all of these games are up to 4 players, by the way. Well, they are 4 players. You either play with 4 people or with the CPU.

Becs:

We should mention the modes. So so you pick whatever mini game you want

Galutrad:

Yes.

Becs:

Of the 9. But you can also do who's the best contest and kind of set the rules there. So, like, if you if you want to play with a bunch of computers and you want to be a powerhouse and you wanna feel powerful, you can make them all easy

Galutrad:

level. Yeah.

Becs:

And you can power through that. Or you can play with your friends, or you can play with your unfortunate siblings that have to put up with you and have to deal with your competitive nature. I don't know anything about that.

Galutrad:

Shout out to Scott and Steven. Love you guys.

Becs:

So there's so once you know, it's it's easy, medium, hard. I I actually don't remember if it's medium or not, but there's an easy level, a mid level, and a hard level. Once you beat consecutively 5 times, if you beat the who's the best competition 5 times in a row, you'll unlock hyper mode.

Galutrad:

I had no Oh. I didn't even find this in my research. Well and you know what? That might be because your boy is not good at the run, ratatta, run game even to this day.

Becs:

Yeah. You're it's just cute. It's like the your little your all little ratatas running on your little treadmill Yeah. And you're jumping over the things. And if you hit a if you accidentally miss, which I don't ever do, if you accidentally miss a hurdle, he hits his little noggin on it and then he shakes his head.

Becs:

So it, like, takes a minute for you to be able to get back started.

Galutrad:

He

Becs:

does. Alright. Well, I'll take

Galutrad:

the next one. So this is 1 the other one that I was terrible at as a child, still terrible at now, but also pretty good.

Becs:

How are you both bad and good at something?

Galutrad:

Well, I don't really know how to

Becs:

explain it, but that's dig dig dig. Oh, you were great at that game. I was upset with you. That's my, like, second favorite game.

Galutrad:

I feel like I must be doing something wrong, but it's working really well, which all you do in dig dig dig is you play a Sandshrew and you push the l and r bumpers back to back constantly to dig a little hole. And whoever digs to the bottom of their hole first wins. And you get sprayed up by this lovely little water fountain, and it's super adorable. And I was terrible at that as a kid. But

Becs:

Playing, some Smash Brothers is really up

Galutrad:

to your fucking foot gate. Oh, yeah.

Becs:

Yeah. No. I I love that game, though. And I I was, like, I remember the first time we played kids club. I was so confident.

Becs:

I was like, I'm about to get handed to you, like, completely. Doug. Doug. Doug. And then you kicked my butt I did.

Becs:

Terribly too. Yeah. Like, not even close.

Galutrad:

These fingers move fast, boy.

Becs:

I guess so. But yeah. No. That one's that one has such a cute animation at the end too. Well, then since we went and ordered my first favorite, my second favorite, let's talk about my third favorite, which is Clefairy Says, which is I it's basically Simon Says.

Galutrad:

Yeah. Or, Follow the leader type of game.

Becs:

Was the was it still Simon Says, the little handheld where you had to hit the the colors? Yes. It was still called Simon Says?

Galutrad:

Still Simon Says. There's a chalkboard and a Clefairy teacher

Galutrad:

Mhmm.

Galutrad:

Wearing cute little glasses. There are a bunch of little Clefairies in class.

Becs:

And you learn

Galutrad:

it. And on the blackboard, each turn, she writes up a direction.

Galutrad:

Mhmm.

Galutrad:

She'll do directions. The thing about that is as a kid, I think it was probably a little bit harder. As an adult, it's only like 16 patterns

Becs:

I sing it.

Galutrad:

Or 16 directions.

Becs:

I sing it with the Do you really? I literally go up, down, left, right, left, right, up, down. I sing it with them. Uh-huh. I used to when I was a kid.

Becs:

I would put my controller down in my lap and would like Would you read these?

Galutrad:

So Beck is doing little point. So the way that the Clefairy do a little they do a little dancey dance

Becs:

Is they pull?

Galutrad:

And they point their fingers in the direction that you have to put. When you get it wrong, unfortunately, you get a little bop on the head That's from a toy hammer

Becs:

It hurts my feelings.

Galutrad:

And it goes, bop. And

Galutrad:

then they

Becs:

it goes it goes, and then the and the fairy, when it loses, it's crying. It's crying. Oh. And you

Galutrad:

can you can only get you have, like, a little health bar, and you can only get so many buffs on the head. But for unfortunately, you failed the class, and it's basically the last Clefairy standing, which can result in a draw. Yeah. It's one of the few that actually, I think, are pretty you pretty commonly can result in the draw, if you're playing,

Galutrad:

I think, as an

Galutrad:

adult now because it it admittedly, it is much easier to remember the directions because it does go over the same direction each time. I feel like that one and Rock Hardin, which we haven't talked about yet, and the

Becs:

Ekans one are probably the ones that can can result in a draw.

Galutrad:

The most.

Becs:

The most easily. Yeah. Because it's not about getting to something the fastest. It's just about getting through it.

Galutrad:

So with that, I'll bring up Rock Hardin. Yeah. Rock Hardin is a game where you're playing as either a Metapod or a Kakuna. Yep. Early on in the Pokemon anime, there's a classic episode where Ash is fighting against a bug catcher in Viridian Forest, and they are fighting Metapod versus Metapod.

Galutrad:

I see that he's not a bug catcher. He catches bugs. He's actually a samurai guy in the anime, but they are fighting Metapod versus Metapod, and the only thing that Metapod can do is use the move harden. And so in this game, you use the move harden to make your body like steel and survive an oncoming rock that just gets tossed out of nowhere.

Becs:

They look really they look really cool too.

Galutrad:

They do. I don't

Becs:

know what I envisioned harden to be, but I didn't envision it being, like, an actual, like, metal coat of armor.

Galutrad:

Yeah. If you take Metapod or cocoona, 24 karat gold plate them, that's kinda how they look, and it's it's pretty sick.

Becs:

I have a fun side story for you. So, you know, I told you you were a mean kid. Me? Yeah.

Galutrad:

Yeah.

Becs:

I'm a mean kid.

Galutrad:

Oh, that I know this side story.

Becs:

So I told my brother that if he didn't get Metapod, if he got cocoona, he wouldn't win. So he, like, would cry if he got cocoona because I convinced him that Metapod was stronger than cocoona.

Galutrad:

Didn't didn't you do that, though, by weren't you telling me that

Becs:

I just won all the time because I was better at it.

Galutrad:

Weren't you telling me, though, that I I thought over. I thought you were a little bit more diabolical than that. Weren't you saying that when you got cocoona, you would purposefully lose?

Becs:

I don't think I would ever purposefully lose anything, but maybe to keep the bit going.

Galutrad:

I think you were telling me that one. Maybe. But maybe I'm just misremembering

Becs:

that. No. But I did convince him that Metapod was stronger, and and he would, like, get actually upset.

Galutrad:

In a lot of these games where you could get one or the other of a type of Pokemon, it's random. You don't get to choose. But in Rock Hardin, kind of the same idea. So like Clefairy's, you have a health bar. Each time you manage to not harden, you get hit by a rock and your health bar goes down.

Becs:

But do you do you think that's it's because it's not just health.

Galutrad:

Yeah. It well, it's it's

Becs:

I was gonna ask you, do you think that's power points gauge?

Galutrad:

Oh, that's really intriguing.

Becs:

Yeah.

Galutrad:

I've never thought about it.

Becs:

Like, it's a lottery use.

Galutrad:

That's that's kind of so in Pokemon mainline games, power points or PP are the amount of times that you can use a move before not being able to use that move anymore. If you have no power points left, your Pokemon uses a move called struggle, which deals damage to the other Pokemon but also to yourself.

Galutrad:

Mhmm.

Galutrad:

And I've never thought about it. Yeah. Your your little bar, as you use harden, it goes down. So if you sit there and just hold harden, it will decrease. But if you get hit, it also decreases.

Becs:

Yeah. So maybe it's more like functionally, it's more like a like a stamina

Galutrad:

bar, like

Becs:

like an like an But

Galutrad:

I like the idea of it being like a PowerPoint gauge. Thanks.

Becs:

Very cool. Before we move on to the next mini game, why don't we take a quick break Absolutely. Refresh ourselves, get a little bit of caffeine, and then we'll get back to the get back to talking about it.

Galutrad:

Kids club. Yeah. Yeah. Alright. Let's do it.

Galutrad:

Alright.

Becs:

See you back. See you after the break. Welcome back. What's next?

Galutrad:

Do you wanna go ahead and talk about Ekins hoop earl?

Becs:

Yeah. Ekins Hoopirl is so it's it's basically like ring toss. So you've got these cute little Diglett's popping up, kinda like whack a mole.

Galutrad:

Yeah.

Becs:

And you need to aim your Ekans, which was it's actually trickier than it looks, but once you once you hit that sweet spot where you wanna aim, you you technically, you don't have to move anymore because you like, if you can get a diagonal just as those pop up in a tic tac toe diagonal line, you can you can pretty much hit them as long as you know, like, it is sensitive where it's like if you if you barely pull your joystick back, you're gonna go in that front row. If you pull it all the way back, you're gonna go in that back row.

Galutrad:

Mhmm.

Becs:

So, like, really timing it well, knowing where to aim, that kind of thing. I really love that game. Yeah. The other caveat to it too is as you're collecting your points, you know, each Diglett is probably worth one point. Right?

Becs:

Mhmm. Every once in a while, these beautiful, shiny, golden diglets will pop up, and those are worth 2 points or something like that? 3 points?

Galutrad:

Yeah.

Becs:

So those are the ones you wanna go for. So if you're you got it lined up, but another one pops a golden one pops up, you gotta shift a little bit.

Galutrad:

Yeah. Shift your little echin self over

Becs:

to be able to aim for the golden one.

Galutrad:

But I

Becs:

like that one. I think that one was probably other than one we haven't talked about yet, I think that one was probably one of the most challenging ones for me as a kid. Definitely not one of the not definitely not an easy one for me as a kid.

Galutrad:

That's that's one of the ones that I remember as a kid being much better at it than I am as an adult.

Becs:

Okay.

Galutrad:

I think it's more based off of the fact that I I was so used to the n 64 controller as a kid because tons of Ocarina of Time, tons of Mario 64. So I got really used to that controller, and I just kinda knew how the analog stick felt.

Becs:

I don't know what my excuse then was. It's because I can't aim. Remember? I don't know how to aim,

Galutrad:

like, still don't. But when I picked it back up, it there was kinda like a moment when I was playing it recently for this episode. At first, I was like, oh my god. This is hard. But then it started to, like, come back to me, and I was like, oh, yeah.

Galutrad:

If I hit right to here and pull this much far back, like you said, I'll I I will always hit that spot. But I definitely remember being much better at it as a kid. Talking about Snore War, which is a game that I am not great at. It's a very simple game. You play as Drowsy.

Galutrad:

There is a pendulum that's swinging back and forth in the center of the screen, and all you have to do is hit the a button when the pendulum hits the middle. And for whatever reason, I'm terrible at it.

Becs:

I'm not good at this one either. I have learned that if you can wait for that reflective light Okay. As

Galutrad:

soon as it

Becs:

gets in the middle, it, like, it, like, shines like a like a flashlight real quick. Yeah. If you can hit that, that helps. But it is challenging because it it it's not just, like, every time it goes in the middle, you click it. It's if you don't click it correctly, you start to pass out

Galutrad:

because you have to have to search out. Asleep. Right. Yeah.

Becs:

And then, also, it speeds up as the round goes.

Galutrad:

So you can't just keep a constant beat.

Becs:

Right.

Galutrad:

Because I was in band all through middle school and high school. I can keep a beat. Right. But it's the idea it's the fact that it's speeding up consistently.

Becs:

It's picking up pace. Yeah. You can keep a beat. But if you don't if you don't hit the first note at the right time, it's hard to it's hard to keep, like, the rhythm down.

Galutrad:

Get off, then you stay off, basically. And it's one of those where it's kinda like everyone's compete. I mean, obviously, everyone's competing against each other, but it very much the fact that you get drowsy, drowsy gets sleepy, it really, like, gets into your brain to be like, I'm failing. I'm I'm not doing a good because it is very you can tell. He starts, like, wobbling back and forth.

Galutrad:

Yeah. It's it's very, like, apparent that you are not doing well.

Becs:

It's also it's also kinda cute, though, because he's such, like, a like, before slack off, I believe I would feel like if you ask me what Pokemon's lazy, I would say drowsy. It's almost like he's drunk because he, like, he's, like, sleep drunk.

Galutrad:

Yeah.

Becs:

Yeah. So he, like, he, like, stands up, and he's like, I did it. And then he falls to the ground. So even though even when you win, you still fall asleep Yeah. Because all the hypnosis just gets to you.

Becs:

He needs he needs some espresso. You know what I'm saying?

Galutrad:

He does need an espresso. That's true. Do you wanna take the next one?

Becs:

Yeah. I'll talk about our least favorite game in the entire world. I think it's the most challenging. Sushi Go Round. The premise of this one is that you're all lickitungs

Galutrad:

Mhmm.

Becs:

And your goal is to eat as much sushi as possible, but the sushi has different points associated with with each thing.

Galutrad:

Which is randomly generated, by the way.

Becs:

It's not. It tells you in the beginning. No.

Galutrad:

No. I know. But I'm saying, like, it's not always the same food is worth the same value. It's it changes which food is worth what. I think

Becs:

it does?

Galutrad:

Yeah. Yeah.

Becs:

So you have to eat the most sushi, but there's 2 there's 2 things that factor against you that make this game ridiculous. Mhmm. The first one is that much like a lot of Mario Party games, for instance, you are confined to a small space with all of the other players. So if a CPU or an annoying boyfriend is blocking you from eating sushi in a certain spot, that's it.

Galutrad:

That's all you got.

Becs:

And you you really want to it's moving it's moving

Galutrad:

clockwise. Sushi restaurant.

Becs:

So you really wanna kinda be in front Mhmm. Of them so you can hopefully get the better, like, first choice.

Galutrad:

Mhmm.

Becs:

So that's against you. The second thing that's against you is that there is 1 or 2 flavors of sushi that are spicy.

Galutrad:

Yes.

Becs:

And I don't remember if you don't get points or if you get very few points or whatever, but the biggest kicker is because this is all time sensitive games, it makes Lickitung freak out. He's like he's like, it's hot. He's like, I need water. Get me water. Get me ice.

Galutrad:

He kinda, like, runs around. Your character forcibly runs around the little ring that you're all stuck

Galutrad:

in.

Becs:

Right. He needs some milk. Time. Yeah. So he's he'll physically running running around.

Becs:

So you you you lose your spot, and you're it's moving so fast that you're not paying attention most of the time to what you're eating. You're just like, oh, I gotta I gotta eat this sushi. So that you you trick yourself, and you hype yourself up, and then you eat the spicy sushi, then you lose time. Mhmm. And then your boyfriend pushes you out of the way and gets the better sushi.

Becs:

This is not a true story. Yeah. So it's it's just chaotic. It is. And and not in a not in a way that I enjoy.

Galutrad:

Yeah. Yeah. I did learn, and I I feel like it explains this, and I just didn't I was I wasn't paying enough attention to understand it. But I learned today that the, weirdly, the green tea is always just spicy. It always activates it.

Becs:

So there's a sushi that's spicy that's like a slightly darker red. Right?

Galutrad:

Well, no. So they're each yes. Yes. You are correct. Each sushi has a different spice level.

Galutrad:

And if you eat too much of the same sushi in a row, your spice level will go up.

Becs:

So is the green tea now I'm kinda I almost wish we had played, like, right before this. Is the green tea just temperature hot?

Galutrad:

Yeah. It it's just hot. It's just hot.

Becs:

Yeah. It's not no.

Galutrad:

It's not spicy tea. It is just hot tea. And so you get hot. You get a hot mouth, so you get burn your mouth and have to run around and cool it off. Even if you don't eat any green tea, inevitably, you will have that happen to you because you're like you have like a it doesn't show it anywhere on the screen, but you have like a spice meter that you are gauging up and end up setting off.

Galutrad:

And so everyone's gonna run around a little bit. You can obviously you can force it more if you end up eating green tea, which, like you were saying, is kind of part of the tactic because you can push someone around so that if they're trying to get a piece of sushi, but there's a piece of there's a plate with green tea on it, you can push them so that their tongue goes into the green tea.

Becs:

You can be strategic. Yeah. You

Galutrad:

can. But it is a it is a very difficult game, I think, to pick

Becs:

up. In all of your research, did you happen to, look up what the sushi chefs or the waiters or whoever screaming the whole time.

Galutrad:

I did not.

Becs:

So because I was a little kid, and I it's it they're it's they're probably yelling out, like, Japanese, like, hey.

Galutrad:

We need

Becs:

we need this now or hurry up or whatever, and I and I don't know it because of a language barrier. But when I was a kid, I really thought they were saying, who needs salt? I want salt. And I was like, why do they need so much salt? It's there's soy sauce.

Becs:

Right? I'm so confused. Yeah. I wonder I wonder what they're saying because they there it it very much the one thing I will say about it is it's very cute because of the the scenery. Like, you very much feel like you're in a busy sushi conveyor restaurant during lunch hour.

Galutrad:

Very much so.

Galutrad:

And

Becs:

look at times, just eating all these people's lunch. Yeah. He he did not pay for that, and you know he didn't. No. He doesn't have a job.

Galutrad:

No. He it it's almost like Lickitung just walked in and was like, I'm eating food now because that's what Lickitung does.

Becs:

Yeah. Oh, is that really what he does? Is he Yes.

Galutrad:

There's there's an anime episode where the whole thing is everyone's food keeps getting stolen, and it's because Lickitung keeps stealing it.

Becs:

You know what? Yeah. I bet Lickitung would tear up some Mozzi sticks.

Galutrad:

Oh, no. It's not happening. But yeah. So last but not least

Becs:

Oh, it's least.

Galutrad:

I actually really like thundering dynamo. It's a button masher, so you can play as either Pikachu or Voltorb.

Becs:

Not unlike what I told my brother about Cocoon and Metapod. I just always was like, why don't I ever get a Pikachu? I always got Voltorb. I was, like, oh, he's not cute. Although, when he wins, he's super cute.

Galutrad:

The concept of this mini game is that you are a Pikachu or a Voltorb, and you're in, like, a generator. And there will be a in the middle of the screen, there is a kind of a button or a light that will flash either blue or green, and you just gotta spam that button Mhmm. As fast as you can based off of the color of the light.

Becs:

Unlike the dig dig dig game, you're not just repeating the same pattern quickly. You you're No.

Galutrad:

The light changes.

Becs:

Yeah. Exactly. And it could change in an instant.

Galutrad:

In an instant. And not only that, but if you are spamming for every so, like, I believe and I'm I'm gonna throw some numbers out there and these aren't real numbers, but I know that the concept of the game is this. Is that so, like, for every button press that you get correct, you gain 2 points of electricity. But then if you hit the wrong one, you lose 3 points of electricity. Oh.

Galutrad:

So you're spamming the button, but then it changes.

Becs:

I didn't even know you lost.

Galutrad:

You do.

Becs:

I just thought you, like, lost your momentum.

Galutrad:

No. You lose you. Your gauge drops by a certain amount if you hit the wrong button. So if you don't switch over to the new button when the light changes, you're sitting there spamming and just dropping your gauge. So it it can be that's that's one of those games that it does have a timer, I believe.

Becs:

It does.

Galutrad:

But it can end up in nobody winning if all of you aren't paying enough attention.

Becs:

I think it has a timer. Is that No. I'm

Galutrad:

pretty sure it does.

Becs:

Okay. Okay. Yeah. Because I'm pretty sure all of them do.

Galutrad:

Yeah.

Galutrad:

I'm I I think so. And probably, understandably, because they wanna make sure nobody just gets stuck in the game. But

Becs:

So when Pikachu wins

Galutrad:

Yes.

Becs:

He does a cute little flippy. Right? Yeah. When Voltorb wins Yeah. As ugly as he is, he gets this puss in boots when he's, like, he's just begging and he's got his big kitty eyes.

Galutrad:

Yeah.

Becs:

That's what Voltorb gets caught in

Galutrad:

his face.

Galutrad:

Really? Oh. He's just

Becs:

beaming with pride. It's actually it's they somehow made Voltorb very cute when he wins.

Galutrad:

Voltorb is cute. He's just an orb. Yeah. So that's that's every game in the kid's corner, the kid's club.

Becs:

This should have been the kid's club fan club podcast.

Galutrad:

Honestly, the kid's club was where I spent pretty much all my I honestly

Galutrad:

like I said, I do not remember. I inevitably, I

Galutrad:

must have messed with both of them. Remember. I inevitably, I must have messed with both of them. Right. I do not remember anything about the stadium or the gym leader castle

Becs:

from being a

Galutrad:

child.

Galutrad:

A 100% know about it from being an adult, but, like, kids club, lots of memories in the kids club.

Becs:

I because of because, again, the ease of the Nintendo Switch and me being a handheld girly for life, I will be like, I wanna play a game, but I don't really wanna, like, dive into the depths of a plot filled game. Mhmm. I'm gonna play kids club

Galutrad:

for a little bit.

Becs:

I'll play little bit. I'll play a round

Galutrad:

Yeah.

Becs:

Of who's the best. Yeah. I'll make all my CPUs easy, and I will destroy them. But but no. I like, it was also, like, my brothers and I, until the GameCube came along and we had Smash Brothers Melee, which because I know there's Smash Brothers for the Nintendo 64, but we didn't have that game.

Becs:

Yeah. Pretty much was the multiplayer game we played, because the only other multiplayer game I think we had was Jet Force Gemini.

Galutrad:

Yeah.

Becs:

And that was complex.

Galutrad:

Yeah. But I love Jet Force Gemini.

Becs:

Oh, so good. We played it constantly. And and and because stadium mode wasn't 2 players and because of the difficulty, like, we really didn't we we, as a as a young kids kids. Yeah. Did not play very much.

Becs:

They would play stadium sometimes, and I would play stadium sometimes, but we both hated to lose. Scott and I both did. And so we were like, let's just play kids club.

Galutrad:

Or one of you would lose either way.

Becs:

And it was normally Scott at that age for he's I mean, I it wasn't fair. I was older and

Galutrad:

Yeah.

Becs:

More competitive.

Galutrad:

Yes. Yeah. Very much so. So more options because there are a ton of modes in in Pokemon Stadium. A little less exciting, I think, for some of these, but there is the gallery mode.

Galutrad:

The gallery mode is actually only in the North American version of the game. So sorry, international listeners, that y'all didn't get to enjoy this mode.

Becs:

Yeah. You must have really missed out on that printing.

Galutrad:

So in order to use gallery, you had to have the transfer pack, which we haven't talked about this this yet, which is a makes a little bit of sense because we will get into it much more. But the transfer pack was a device that came with every copy of Pokemon Stadium, and it was a little thing that plugged into the back of your n 64 controller, and it would allow you to put your red, blue, or yellow Pokemon cartridge into the transfer pack and connect it to Pokemon Stadium. What the gallery mode would then allow you to do is actually take pictures of those Pokemon from your game on backgrounds that were provided by Stadium, different battle scenes and things like that. And then you could actually print those pictures out as stickers via the sticker station, which was the same sticker station that was used for another game on the n 64 called Pokemon Snap.

Becs:

Oh, wait. So is Sticker Station like a GameStop thing?

Galutrad:

It's a blockbuster thing.

Galutrad:

Oh.

Galutrad:

Yeah. Which that's a throwback. They don't exist anymore.

Becs:

You use your transfer pack to put in your your Game Boy your yellow version.

Galutrad:

Yes.

Becs:

And let's say you have a beloved metapod

Galutrad:

on

Becs:

your yellow version

Galutrad:

Sure.

Becs:

And you want to take a picture of your metapod. Uh-huh. So you set it up like in Legends Arceus.

Galutrad:

Arceus, Arceus, Arceus. Okay. Doesn't matter.

Becs:

It's like Helia Hylia all over again. Yep. You, like, can you know, you can kind of dress up your Pokemon, dress up you. You can put you in different things. Okay.

Becs:

So it's like that.

Galutrad:

Yes.

Becs:

And then what do you do to get your picture from your TV to the Blockbuster down the

Galutrad:

street? So that picture is saved to your cartridge.

Becs:

Oh, it's saved to your Pokemon yellow.

Galutrad:

No. It's saved to the Pokemon stadium cartridge.

Becs:

Okay.

Galutrad:

And then you would take it to the sticker station at blockbuster. You would plug your cartridge in, and then it would read what pictures were on that game so that you can then print them out as little stickers.

Becs:

That is so much more complex than I was thinking. So I I do remember I didn't have one, but I do remember the Game Boy printer.

Galutrad:

Yeah.

Becs:

Yeah. I didn't have one. So I was, like, maybe they had an n 64 printer?

Galutrad:

I

Becs:

don't think they did. Like, an at home one?

Galutrad:

They maybe they had one as, like, a different

Becs:

had a sticker station in their house.

Galutrad:

Oh, I'm sure some rich kid probably convinced their mom and dad to buy sticker station from Blockbuster. By the way, that would be awesome to

Becs:

have for us 1 day. Now we're like we're like we would like

Galutrad:

to be that rich

Galutrad:

kid. Yeah.

Becs:

No. That's crazy. That's really fun. And it was Blockbuster. Yeah.

Becs:

Because it was it was GameStop a thing in the nineties? I don't think

Galutrad:

I I remember EB Games.

Becs:

I don't even know EB Games. But I also I shopped a lot at, like, Digital Planet, like, some Rhino Games. You you used this 1st year.

Galutrad:

GameStop was in the 90 or if it was, maybe it was, like, the late nineties. Yeah. So that's the gallery mode. There's also the Pokemon lab.

Becs:

Help me. What's the point? You you can you can check your Pokedex, but you can do that in the in the Game Boy game.

Galutrad:

Yes. Just to talk

Becs:

to 3 d Professor Oak.

Galutrad:

It's 3 d Professor Oak and 3 d models of the Pokemon.

Becs:

Okay.

Galutrad:

Again, it can only be used if you have a copy of Pokemon red, blue, or yellow inserted into the transfer pack.

Becs:

Okay.

Galutrad:

You are also able to so remember in Pokemon red, blue, and yellow, so you had your Poke boxes, your storage, the PC. And if you wanted, each box could only hold, like, I wanna say, like, 9 Pokemon because it was much smaller back then than it was now. And you couldn't, like, pick Hitmonlee out of box 1 while holding Hitmonlee, switch to box 2, put him in box 2, or transfer him with something.

Becs:

It wasn't it didn't get that good until the Hoenn region.

Galutrad:

Yeah. You I mean, it was a very complex It was a time consuming system.

Becs:

Right. Because Johto was pretty simple at

Galutrad:

some point. I think so. I think Johto is the same, and then I think Hoenn got a little bit nicer.

Becs:

Oh, yeah. Because you could like I remember that being a hue you could move

Galutrad:

boxes. Yeah. Yeah.

Becs:

How crazy is that?

Galutrad:

So well, you can do that in stadium. Oh. You are able to you are able to access your boxes and organize and store Pokemon and trade between cart and trade between cartridges. So weird. I don't know why you would do this.

Galutrad:

I guess if you were I guess if you were a lonely kid. But but have

Becs:

you seen

Galutrad:

red and blue and Pokemon stadium and 2 transfer packs.

Becs:

Same problem with with, like, 4 swords and, like, other stuff that we've talked about before. If you did not have friends that had a Game Boy, that had a Pokemon cartridge, that also had a link cable to trade with, then you were not gonna complete your Pokedex.

Galutrad:

Yeah.

Becs:

So I get what you're saying, because then you could have red and blue and yellow. You could get the version exclusives. Yeah. The different fossils.

Galutrad:

Yeah.

Becs:

Right?

Galutrad:

Yeah.

Becs:

Okay. So, like, I guess, do you do you have to have 2

Galutrad:

Transfer packs.

Becs:

Transfer packs. You do. 2 controllers.

Galutrad:

Okay. 2 transfer packs.

Becs:

Because I was like, do you like

Galutrad:

Which is admittedly cheaper than a a second Game

Becs:

Boy. Game Boy.

Galutrad:

And also a little bit more useful because one kid isn't going to constantly make use of a second Game Boy.

Becs:

And if you're playing multiplayer, you both can have your your your Pokemon Yeah. From the games instead of renting.

Galutrad:

Yeah. So it's it is admittedly it's a more cost effective way to do that. The other thing that Pokemon Lab can do, which is something that we've kind of skipped over on purpose for other modes in the game that we already talked about, is that you can also accept prize Pokemon that were won elsewhere in the game. Some prize Pokemon being, like in the gym leader castle, once you defeat your rival, you are actually rewarded one of 8 Pokemon that includes Bulbasaur, Charmander, Squirtle, Hitmonlee, Hitmonchan, Eevee, Omanyte, and Kabuto.

Becs:

Oh, Eevee is a game changer.

Galutrad:

So if you beat gym leader castle 8 times, you can get all of these Pokemon that you really in the Pokemon red, blue, and yellow games, you really only get one of

Becs:

them. Starters is true too. Yeah. I wasn't even thinking about that.

Galutrad:

So So

Becs:

used to that that being, like, a normal thing.

Galutrad:

To just trade with your yeah. Because now nowadays

Galutrad:

and

Galutrad:

you can re get reach out online to anyone and be like, hey. I've got I've got Quaxly who has Sprigatito and Fuecoco, and you can just find them. But back in the day, you were basically not unless you had friends, you were not going to get the other starter Pokemon.

Becs:

So Pokemon stadium could really if you were a kid living in the middle of nowhere and you had red version, the end, and you couldn't get the exclusives, like, Pokemon Stadium could kinda help you.

Galutrad:

Admittedly, only if you can beat gym leader.

Becs:

Right. Well yeah.

Galutrad:

So it is a hard feat to do, but it is definitely possible. And there are other even

Becs:

the eevee there really is a game changer. You only get one.

Galutrad:

You only get one eevee and there's 3 evolution. Right. Eeveelutions. Something else that is kind of fun about Pokemon Lab that I thought was funny is that it also will so if you were to hack in a Pokemon using, like, a game shark onto your Pokemon red, blue, or yellow version, that and made it over level 100, or if you were to use the infamous missing no glitch to get a Pokemon over level 100 and you transfer it to Pokemon Stadium and it's above level 100, Pokemon Stadium is coded to then revert it back down to level 100.

Becs:

Oh.

Galutrad:

Yeah. So that's kind of funny.

Becs:

But the lab does that?

Galutrad:

The lab does. Oh, yeah. Sorry. The Pokemon lab. Yes.

Galutrad:

Funny. Does that. Yep. Next up, probably another big mode that a lot of people made use of, the GB the Game Boy Tower.

Becs:

Loved it. Yeah. Right? There's just something about and I actually when I played through gold, when I bought gold as an adult, I only played it on Pokemon Stadium 2's Game Boy Town because I wanted it on the TV. Yeah.

Becs:

I don't know why. It's just, like, what I

Galutrad:

wanted. Strange.

Becs:

But yep. No. I I love it because you can play you can play your game your Boy games on the TV. Yeah. Got these cute little themed frames, borders.

Becs:

Yeah. I love Super cute. The Game Boy Tower. I thought it was fun.

Galutrad:

There's also

Becs:

Yes. So you can do Doduo or there is a Dodrio mode.

Galutrad:

There's a

Galutrad:

Dodrio mode.

Becs:

Where you can speed up Yeah. Your movement, which, dear lord, what a game changer, because that is that is my other than, like, the limiting capacity on your pack and on your PC, like, we just talked about, truly my biggest complaint about the first game is you move like a snail.

Galutrad:

It's a it's a grid based game movement system, and you move one tile at a time.

Becs:

Yep. Yep. So so having Doduo mode where you you're you got your your VTech and your your engine, you kick your nitro your nitro kit in your in your backpack when you kick start off, like, yeah. Sign me up. I'm ready.

Galutrad:

Yep. 2nd to last mode to talk about here, we've got the hall of fame, which works similarly as the hall of fame in the mainline Pokemon series games, except one interesting little thing about it. You can register 1 species of Pokemon at a time. For instance, the hall of fame in Pokemon Stadium records each time you get through. I believe the gym laid the gym trainer challenge.

Galutrad:

It might also be the stadium mode. The point there is that if I use Charizard in gym leader castle and register him for hall of fame, and then I use Charizard in the stadium mode and register it for hall of fame, that data gets rewritten.

Becs:

Oh, it gets rewritten. Yes. I thought hall of fame was only if you won the elite 4 challenge. Is it when you win stadium mode 2?

Galutrad:

I believe it is.

Becs:

Okay.

Galutrad:

That's what my research was telling me because, again, I that's why I was saying kinda at the top of the episode is, like, some of this stuff I'm not actually totally sure of. But all of the research that I did, multiple sources pointed it to

Becs:

I could be getting it mixed up with the mainline games.

Galutrad:

Yeah.

Becs:

Because, you know, you have to Yeah. The end goal is the elite 4.

Galutrad:

Very similar to that. I do wanna bring up another special Pokemon that you can earn by doing the hall of fame, which this is one of those things that if true, it sounds like Game Freak, Pokemon, and Nintendo were just kind of making fun of their players of their games. Because by registering all 151 Pokemon in the hall of fame, which is a monumental task, you can get a psyduck with the move amnesia. So it's almost like they're saying that was a headache, and I wish I could forget about it.

Becs:

Well and it's also like, oh, if I'm really gets you because it's all these empty plaques Yeah. With spaces until you fill it up. Yeah. So I I clearly I think I don't think either of us ever completed that.

Galutrad:

Not at all. No chance.

Becs:

But now I'm, like, kinda I kinda I

Galutrad:

didn't even know it was a thing.

Becs:

I kinda wanna challenge accepted.

Galutrad:

Honestly, I don't know why a Psyduck with amnesia would be super useful to have, but getting Pokemon that are rare, that have moves that they can't normally get in the game is such a cool experience to the point where often nowadays those Pokemon are given out just as event Pokemons. But this is like it's like a badge of honor type of thing. It's like, yeah. I've got the Psyduck with amnesia in my in my Pokedex, in my in my party because I beat and registered all 151 Pokemon in the hall of fame on Pokemon Stadium. Like, what a cool playground kid you are.

Becs:

I know what I'm doing once we retire.

Galutrad:

So finally

Becs:

The most difficult, ridiculous part of the game.

Galutrad:

We mentioned this at the top of the episode on about your your guide. Mewtwo is on the front and center of the cover. The final mode available to you in Pokemon Stadium as an option to play is the verse Mewtwo mode, which is only unlocked after completing stadium mode and gym leader castle. Once you do so, Mewtwo's silhouette will be floating in the sky above the lovely little, like, city that is Pokemon Stadium, which by the way, we didn't mention that at all. Mm-mm.

Galutrad:

The whole game, like, menu layout layout is like a little city. So cute.

Becs:

It's very cute. And your

Galutrad:

your clicker isn't a clicker. It's mag magnumites.

Becs:

Yeah. Circling around. Whatever. Yeah. Whichever area you wanna go to.

Becs:

But in the versus Mewtwo mode, you battle Mewtwo.

Galutrad:

You bring a team of 6 and you battle Mewtwo. He's got maximum PP on his move, so he's not gonna run out of moves. Oh. Defeating him once launches the credits of the game. That's beating Pokemon Stadium.

Galutrad:

Oh, wow.

Galutrad:

To defeat Mewtwo.

Becs:

Never seen those credits.

Galutrad:

No. Neither have I. It it also changes the title screen of the game.

Becs:

Stop.

Galutrad:

Yeah.

Becs:

Do you have a picture?

Galutrad:

I don't.

Becs:

Doesn't it when you well and I know you're looking up the title, but doesn't when you're in r 2, doesn't, like, the city get, like, dark or, like, more saturated or, like, go to nighttime mode or something, or am I making that up?

Galutrad:

I honestly, I have no idea.

Becs:

Okay.

Galutrad:

So our normal title for Pokemon Stadium, the title screen is a bunch of the Pokemon that we know and love kind of charging at the screen. The new title has Pikachu, Blastoise, Charizard, Venusaur, and Mewtwo in, like, a really cool, almost anime esque poses where, like, Mewtwo's taking up the whole left side of the screen, and then Charizard, Bulbasaur, and Blastoise are kinda, like, flowing down from the right with Pikachu in the center.

Becs:

I just got up to take a look, and it really does look like an anime, like, promo poster.

Galutrad:

It does. It's super, super cool. So that unlocks what is known as round 2 r 2. In Pokemon Stadium, which makes everything harder.

Becs:

I'm like, this game is so difficult.

Galutrad:

Let's make it more difficult.

Becs:

That I've never even seen their master mode. There are 2. I've never seen it before, and I never will because I'm not good at Pokemon Stadium.

Galutrad:

But that's not even the end. Once you get to round 2, you then have to unlock Mewtwo again by defeating the stadium mode and the gym leader castle mode. And then you defeat an even harder version of Mewtwo where not only does all of his move has max power points, he also just has max stats in general. And after that, you unlock a special hidden sticker.

Becs:

Well, so it's it's I've I found it. I consulted my guide, and you're given a set of wallpapers that you can access in gallery mode. When you're on the gallery main screen, then you can click print on those. And then, apparently, the print option will now change to bonus. When you do bonus, you will now have access to a set of 16 bonus wallpapers from all the different modes that you have even to print out as stickers.

Galutrad:

Oh, that's cool.

Becs:

Yeah. So it so it it is stickers, but it's, like, there's 16 of them, and they're, like, wallpapers of some kind. So probably, like, a bunch of different Pokemon in each one or something like that.

Galutrad:

Yeah. And, unfortunately, none of us were good enough to be able to do it, and now the sticker stations are gone. Yeah. So it's just something that's lost to time.

Becs:

Well, we could still get the wallpapers. We just won't be able to print

Galutrad:

them out. So that's all the modes available to you in

Galutrad:

Pokemon Stadium. I do have a couple other little notes about just fun little things, fun little fun little trivia involving Pokemon Stadium, if you don't mind me going over that.

Galutrad:

Okay.

Galutrad:

First thing is that there is a 7 letter character limit on the trainers' names in Pokemon Stadium, which caused a couple of interesting changes to trainers or trainer types that you fight in the regular mainline Pokemon games. I'll give you just a couple examples that I find really interesting. So Giovani, my boy, the best gym leader of all time, normally spelled giovanni. Now in Pokemon Stadium, just giovanni. So he loses a a character in Come on.

Galutrad:

The youngster.

Becs:

Is this a you youngster or something?

Galutrad:

Nope. It's lad.

Becs:

Little lad.

Galutrad:

What do you think engineer gets changed to?

Becs:

Machine?

Galutrad:

Mister fix.

Becs:

Oh, I know mister fix.

Galutrad:

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. What about bird keeper?

Becs:

Flyer?

Galutrad:

Bird boy.

Becs:

Okay.

Galutrad:

And my possible favorite, scientist. Got any guesses?

Becs:

I don't.

Galutrad:

Lab, man.

Becs:

You know what? It's it's kind of like Ken's jobs and Barbie. It's like, what what do you do, Ken Beach?

Galutrad:

I'm Beachkin. I'm lab, man.

Becs:

I'm doing lab, and I do lab really well.

Galutrad:

There are also a couple of things that Pokemon Stadium fixed from the mainline games at the time, which were red, blue, and yellow, which were that the HP bars are both active of both active Pokemon numerically display their HP.

Becs:

Oh, yeah. Because it was just like It

Galutrad:

was just a bar. It was just a random bar. Yeah. The duration of sleep got reduced to 1 to 3 turns. Sleep could actually work indefinitely in Pokemon red, blue, and yellow.

Galutrad:

You could you could never wake up.

Becs:

I have a question Yeah. About that. Yeah. I did notice when I was getting my butt kicked playing Pokemon Stadium for this episode that the ice never ever ever ever melted. When you got that

Galutrad:

That one's still that one's just and it's still broken to this day. Ice is a very big problem. Frozen is a problem. Frozen is a very

Becs:

big problem. Gonna ask you because you said sleep could go on forever, and it was fixed in this game. I didn't know being frozen was always that

Galutrad:

annoying. That's always been annoying. Yeah. But it has a much lower chance to hit, though.

Galutrad:

Because I'm

Becs:

like, it's it literally froze my Charmander.

Galutrad:

Yeah.

Becs:

And he's like, he has fire on his tail. Theoretically, that should melt.

Galutrad:

Yeah. There's also no more sleep locking in Pokemon Stadium, which sleep locking was something that you could do in generation, I wanna say, 12, but it might have also been removed from 2, which was where you could put every single Pokemon that a player had to sleep.

Becs:

Oh.

Galutrad:

Yeah. Wow. And then in Pokemon Stadium, if if you have 1 Pokemon in your party is asleep, none of the other ones can be put to sleep. Yeah. So that's very good.

Galutrad:

Moves no longer have an additional 1 in 256 chance to miss. So fun little fact, if you were playing Pokemon red, blue, or yellow, every move, even moves that had a 100 accuracy, had a

Galutrad:

still missed. Had a 1 in 256

Galutrad:

chance to miss, and that's just due to the programming. If you connect a Pokemon from your Game Boy cartridge to Pokemon Stadium and it only knows moves, Pokemon Stadium is how you can actually get rid of those moves. You can teach it a TM move and get rid of the first move.

Becs:

Is there not a move deleter

Galutrad:

in the original?

Becs:

So that is a big deal. Yeah. There's a lot going on that Pokemon Stadium was like, here, let me Band Aid this for you.

Galutrad:

Absolutely.

Becs:

Stuff that we take it for granted

Galutrad:

Yeah.

Becs:

Today, for sure.

Galutrad:

Pokemon Stadium was revolutionary.

Becs:

I'd also like to I know I know we're need to wrap up, but I also would like to touch on the shiny mechanics of the game.

Galutrad:

Yeah.

Becs:

It's not true shinies, so it's not like I went out and I found a shiny Rhyhorn. I brought him into the game. But it did something weird where depending on the nickname that you gave your Pokemon in this game, they may have, like, a different hue.

Galutrad:

Palette. Yeah.

Becs:

Or and it could be, like, if you lowercase Rhyhorn, he'll have a blue tongue.

Galutrad:

Really?

Becs:

Like, just weird stuff like that. Interesting. So and I noticed too, like, as I was battling the trainers, the CPUs, that their Pokemon, if we were using the same Pokemon, that they sometimes had a different hue because I'm renting Pokemon, so none of my Pokemon were nicknamed.

Galutrad:

Yeah.

Becs:

They had different hues too. They did. Oh, that was neat. Yeah. It is it is really neat.

Becs:

The first shiny Pokemon.

Galutrad:

The first shiny well, kind of. Technically, this is getting into some really meta stuff, but, technically, you can actually catch shiny Pokemon in blue, red, and yellow based off of their IV stats. If you trade them up to gold and silver where shiny Pokemon existed, they do become shiny. It's really interesting.

Becs:

Well, you can't see how pretty they are

Galutrad:

In those games. Yes. I know.

Becs:

Colors. But no. I thought it was I thought it was really cool. I was like, oh, that's, like, such a weird thing, but, like, a weird gimmick Yeah. Kinda thing, but I I still liked it a lot.

Galutrad:

You got any other closing thoughts on Pokemon?

Becs:

I just wanna know, were there any, were there any Pokemon models or fanning sequences or anything like that that stood out to you?

Galutrad:

I like how when Alakazam gets hit, he, like, lays over on his side and, like, holds his hand in his head and just kind of floats back up like that and then stands back up once he's, like, fully up in the air. He looks like a very cool dude. I also like that when Slowbro, uses the move head butt, the way that the animation plays out is the the cloister on his tail bites him and causes him to freak out and run-in and hit the head butt. I like the fact that when Jinx faints, the only thing left of her is her hair.

Becs:

Her little wig comes off. Yeah. Yeah.

Galutrad:

What about you?

Becs:

I I fainting my Pokemon fainting always made me so sad. Like, watching little Eevee look up at the sky like, father, what have I done? What? I'm sorry. Forgive me.

Becs:

And, like, fading and crying. Some of them cry. Caterpie's eyes water heartbreaking.

Galutrad:

Really? Oh, yeah. Just like in the anime.

Becs:

Yeah. It's really sad. But the one that really makes me laugh, which as we talked about, became an Easter egg in Smash

Galutrad:

Brothers. Yeah.

Becs:

Is, Jigglypuff's fainting scene. Jigglypuff is big old poofy Jigglypuff, but if she faints, she flattens like a Looney Tunes pancake and then just floats to the ground like a piece of paper and then disappears. It's, like, so ridiculous and funny looking, but no. I love that. I also loved I love when they come out from the Pokeballs, because they all they do, like, a stance of, like, they're ready to go.

Galutrad:

They do.

Galutrad:

And then

Becs:

they kind of like an Arcanine. It, like, roars at you. If it's execute, it just kinda goes, yeah. We execute. We gonna get we gonna get it.

Becs:

We gonna fight. Yeah. I just, like, I just love I really love and appreciate the models that they rendered for this game. Like, I I just I do. I feel like they put a lot of love into it.

Galutrad:

They did. One little fun fact, though, about the models is that Electabuzz famously has 6 fingers on each hand.

Becs:

Yep. They mess with my boy.

Galutrad:

And it stays that way in the sequel to this game, which we'll talk about it in another episode.

Becs:

I also like that when you are underground, like, you use dig or you fly or whatever, you can see because, you know, of course, when your opponent attacks you and you're underground or when your opponent attacks you and you're in the air because you flew, you can see the move that they're using kind of fly around you. Like, it's not just like on the Game Boy. It's your move missed. You can see it missing, which is really cool.

Galutrad:

Yeah.

Becs:

I also really enjoy the victory music. When you get a badge in the stadium modes, it, like, does this cute little magical thing, and then the badge, like, just pops onto the

Galutrad:

screen. Yeah.

Becs:

If you win, if you accomplish something, it it it rewards you. It makes you feel like, I got my rainbow badge. Like

Galutrad:

It is absolutely,

Becs:

anyway. We obviously hate this game. So

Galutrad:

Obviously. Yeah. Obviously. But, of course, we wanna know what y'all think about this game.

Becs:

Yeah. Please. If you have fond memories like we do, we wanna know if you have never played before and you have Switch online, highly encourage you to check out at least the kids club. I mean, that's the best thing. Clearly, that's the thing we loved the most.

Becs:

Yeah. But, no, I I encourage you to check it out and and let us know what you think. And, you know, if we're all still friends in our in our eighties, we can we can retire together and try to take on R2.

Galutrad:

Absolutely.

Becs:

Where can our friends at listening at home share their thoughts with us?

Galutrad:

Yeah. So you can share your thoughts with us at any of our socials, which include Instagram and x. Those are the things that we are most on. You can also reach out to us on blue sky threads, TikTok at another pkmn pod.

Becs:

They don't wanna talk to me if they just wanna talk to you, gal. Where can they find you?

Galutrad:

You can find me everywhere on the Internet at gallutrad. That's g a l u t r a d. And what about you, Becks?

Becs:

You can find me everywhere on the Internet atrebelody, r e b e l o d y, except for Instagram where I am unfortunately forevermore, i_am_rebelty. Well, thank you so much for tuning in. And, again, let us know your thoughts. Give us a rating on Apple Podcast, Spotify, anywhere you listen to us, and we hope to see you next time on our next adventure.

Galutrad:

Alright. Bye. Bye.

Becs:

I'm gonna throw it in the Trubbish.