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It’s the podcast where a filmmaker (Nathan Blackwell of Squishy Studios) and a comedian (Krissy Lenz of Neighborhood Comedy Theatre) take a hilarious look at the 80s movies we think we love or might have missed with modern eyes and probably a significant haze of nostalgia.
Hello, and welcome to the most excellent eighties movies podcast. It's the podcast where a filmmaker and a comedian sing their way through the eighties movies we think we love or might have missed with These Are Grown Up Eyes to see how they hold up. And today, we're talking about Purple Rain, a movie selection from 1984 about which Letterbox says, before he created the music, he lived every bit of it. A victim of his own anger, the kid is a Minneapolis magician. That's the alternative reality.
Krissy Lenz:The kid is a Minneapolis musician on the rise with his band, the revolution, escaping a tumultuous home life through music. While trying to avoid making the same mistakes as his truculent father, the kid navigates the club scene and a rocky relationship with a captivating singer, Apollonia. But another musician not a not a magician, another musician, Morris, looks to steal the kid's spotlight and his girl.
Nathan Blackwell:Before he created the music, he lived every bit of it.
Krissy Lenz:Purple Rain. I'm Krissy Lenz, one of the directors at the Neighborhood Comedy Theater in downtown Mesa, Arizona.
Nathan Blackwell:And I'm Nathan Blackwell, an independent filmmaker with Squishy Studios.
Krissy Lenz:And today, we have not one, but two of our favorite returning guests. We have the, always majestic, the always wonderful, podcaster, writer, creator, extraordinaire, mister Kyle Olson.
Kyle Olson:Dearly beloved, we gather here today to get to this podcast, most excellent.
Krissy Lenz:Oh, that was good. I like that. Yeah. Keep that back.
Kyle Olson:I gotta show Pete. First Pete. I'm sorry.
Krissy Lenz:Damn it. And, of course, that other voice you just heard is the also a wonderful podcaster, a podcast producer, a purveyor of podcasts.
Kyle Olson:He likes impresario.
Krissy Lenz:Boss. The truculus. Love it improv impresario. Pete Wright.
Pete Wright:Hundalicilia, yo. Hundalicilia.
Kyle Olson:I don't know what that is.
Pete Wright:Very, very grateful. It's another Prince reference, but Kyle stole the first one, so I just that was what hit me. Yeah. I'm very glad to be here. This is it's about time we brought Prince to the table.
Kyle Olson:That's true.
Krissy Lenz:Well, the reason is because I have never seen this movie in my entire life. I have no I mean, I I know from Prince, but I wouldn't say like everyone I know who I would say is a fan of Prince is such a super fan of Prince that they go to any lengths to show how much they're a fan of Prince. And so I'm just like, hi, I I like Prince. I I think I know.
Nathan Blackwell:You don't even know.
Krissy Lenz:Don't. Turns out, I don't even know. So Nathan, I'm curious, have you seen this before?
Nathan Blackwell:I I no. I am 100% in the same boat in the same boat that Chrissy is in, which is I've never seen this movie. I was not I always liked Prince. Hey, guys. I like Prince.
Nathan Blackwell:They told me I don't even know. Yeah. We're we're yeah. On the No. We're on the same I I've gotta I remember this movie is special to me, however, because I remember my mom getting a babysitter and actually going with a friend, and I didn't know she had a friend.
Krissy Lenz:Moms can't have friends.
Kyle Olson:Jeez. You
Nathan Blackwell:know, exactly. And and she went to go see this movie, just the girls, and I was like, wait, mom is a person?
Krissy Lenz:Mhmm. Yeah. But
Kyle Olson:yeah. So you discover that. That's kinda Yeah.
Nathan Blackwell:Was like seven or eight, and it's like, oh, okay. That's that's a that's an adult movie. Okay. Interesting. Alright.
Nathan Blackwell:So that's where Purple Rain lives in in my life.
Krissy Lenz:Lives in infamy as a mom movie.
Nathan Blackwell:As a mom movie.
Pete Wright:Wow. I can't believe the moms are already taking so much black right
Krissy Lenz:now.
Nathan Blackwell:They were they were both hippie moms. So
Kyle Olson:Yeah. And, yeah, and I have no recollection of my mother ever going out to a movie.
Nathan Blackwell:Yeah. So that's why it was so weird for me. Yeah. This was the first time.
Krissy Lenz:Can't be people. They can't go places and do stuff. But we have two super super fans with us here today who I think both told me if you ever do Purple Rain, let me know. So tell us a little bit about your history with the movie. We'll start with Kyle since we did the first time.
Kyle Olson:For for me, actually, the the movie part is actually pretty recent as well. Like, I was aware of it. And I, of course, as a as a Gen Xer, I watched hundreds of hours of MTV. And so the music videos for pretty much half the soundtrack were all over the place. But I had never actually sat down and watched the movie until Pete and I decided to go on a little adventure together.
Kyle Olson:And I was like, hey. I I probably should, see the movie before we go see the musical because we are those fans. We actually put ourselves together, and we went to the world premiere of the print the Purple Rain of the musical in Minnesota.
Pete Wright:We did that for you. It's a real thing.
Krissy Lenz:Yeah. I love it.
Nathan Blackwell:A fan blowout, if you will.
Pete Wright:Oh my god.
Kyle Olson:I just realized.
Krissy Lenz:Yeah. Good. Well, which is so for our bonus content today, we're gonna talk about when we have had super fan blowouts, where you just throw everything to the wind, and follow your dreams, to follow your favorite artist, to go see something, or go do something that's completely ridiculous, but absolutely justifiable based on how much you love that artist or thing. So if you want to get that spicy content, become a member at truestory.fm. Just click the little join button, and you too can hear all of our brilliant stories.
Krissy Lenz:But I suspect we're gonna get a little sneak peek of Pete's when he tells us about how how you found the movie.
Pete Wright:Well, I found the movie early. Mhmm. And I remember watching it with my dear friends and also lunatic prince fans, John Bridgeman and Dogen made now DC Barnes. And we sat in, and we watched the movie. We watched it over and over again.
Pete Wright:We all owned it on VHS and then eventually DVD. And I'm sure Bridgeman probably had a laserdisc in there somewhere. It was it it it was just part of it a part of our kind of core fabric of our fandom. And the same can be said for the other movies in prince's catalog. Right?
Pete Wright:So under the cherry moon and, of course, the sequel the sequel to Purple Rain, Graffiti Bridge. So I highly recommend not talking about Graffiti Bridge on a on a podcast. So, you know, I I was also a a fan first of the music and of Prince as a performer and as a talent, a singular singular talent. And I think it will come clear that I'm also a a realist when it comes to what the movie is. And I'm still
Krissy Lenz:All good.
Kyle Olson:Yeah.
Krissy Lenz:That's a big weight off my mind. Yeah.
Pete Wright:It should be. It should be.
Krissy Lenz:Because I am, like, at a loss for how to talk about this movie. Normally, I describe the plot and we take little journeys and tangents here and there. But the plot is so Ephemeral. Scattershot.
Pete Wright:Yeah. Ephemeral.
Krissy Lenz:It's of the ether. And, so I think we'll just we'll go bit by bit and just talk through it, and see how it goes. I found it strange. Of course, I've seen Prince in music videos and things like that, but I've never seen Prince, like, walk around in, like Yeah. His Uh-huh.
Krissy Lenz:Normal.
Pete Wright:Sit on a couch.
Nathan Blackwell:Uh-huh. Right.
Krissy Lenz:Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.
Nathan Blackwell:Yeah. I I only see him on stage and riding motorcycles.
Kyle Olson:Mhmm.
Nathan Blackwell:Mhmm. And so, like, climbing up, like hiking or or, yeah, like running and walking and stopping people from fighting and things like that. That was Yeah. New for me.
Kyle Olson:Can you imagine that you're in Minneapolis in 1984 and you're off on a walk in the woods and you come around the corner, and you see Prince in full regalia. Like, what? How do you even process that? Like
Nathan Blackwell:Yeah. Get onto his purple motorcycle.
Kyle Olson:Yeah. Like, this is not where you should be. This is you're in the wrong environment. What happened?
Nathan Blackwell:Little boy, do you need help?
Krissy Lenz:Like, it's
Nathan Blackwell:it's also really hard to tell how old Prince is. Like, I was shocked to hear that he was or to discover that he was 26 when he made this movie.
Kyle Olson:Yeah.
Nathan Blackwell:It's so Like,
Krissy Lenz:he is timeless. He's without age. He's always looked that way, and he always always will in our hearts. It was so weird. And it's like, this is this might be a weird hot take, but it was super odd for me to see Prince being a sexual being.
Krissy Lenz:I know I get that he's all about sex, and, like, the music's all sexy sexy, and he's just sex from head to toe. But to see him actually in his human form kissing a woman was I was like, should I be watching this?
Pete Wright:I feel It's unsettling.
Krissy Lenz:This is not unsettled.
Nathan Blackwell:This is not an in the living room movie.
Kyle Olson:This is not
Krissy Lenz:Oh, but it was.
Nathan Blackwell:Oh, anyway. I watched
Krissy Lenz:it in the
Kyle Olson:living room. Yeah. There he is.
Krissy Lenz:Rocket walked in several times and was like, what are you doing, mom? And then he was like, mom, how big is Prince? And he looked it up again.
Nathan Blackwell:He's a giant. He's five foot two in shoes.
Krissy Lenz:Uh-huh. Yep.
Nathan Blackwell:Yeah. It so this is not a criticism at all. No. But this movie is, like, bursting with cleavage.
Krissy Lenz:Oh, yeah. Yes. And boobies.
Kyle Olson:Yeah. Yeah.
Nathan Blackwell:Well, that's what happens when they burst. Bang.
Krissy Lenz:Yeah.
Kyle Olson:Yeah.
Krissy Lenz:Yeah. Which I was like, I don't know what I was expecting, but it wasn't that.
Nathan Blackwell:No. No. Like, I I you know, so we we talk about the expectations. Like, I was expecting a little more of a fluff kind of movie in terms of not having much, like, interesting, realistic emotional stakes, and it turns out to be a little more adult than I expected. Mhmm.
Nathan Blackwell:Both in terms of,
Kyle Olson:like That's that's the sort of the the weird line this walks is that it's it's not prince the movie. Right. Like, prince is not play he is playing a fictionalized version of himself with some similarities to his actual origin, including the the place where it takes place. But this is not he's playing the kid, which is a different person, and the kid is kind of a jerk. Mhmm.
Kyle Olson:He treats people badly.
Krissy Lenz:Total jerk.
Kyle Olson:He treats his hand badly. He treats everybody badly. But, of course, you find out that he's also being treated badly, and now it's the the cycle of the cycles. I mean, that's Yes. Built into it too.
Kyle Olson:But It's a real pay
Pete Wright:it forward vibe.
Kyle Olson:Mhmm. Yeah. It's mean, that's that sort of threw me too. Was like I was like, alright. This isn't like Prince going, this is my story.
Kyle Olson:Like, here it is. It's like, oh, no. I'm doing a fictionalized version. Actually, I was watching it. I was like, oh, this is eight mile.
Krissy Lenz:Yes. It's like,
Kyle Olson:oh, okay. I was like I was like, I mean, I know which came first. But like, I was like, oh, I see the exact structure. It's the same it's the same structure.
Nathan Blackwell:Mhmm.
Kyle Olson:I was like, oh, that's where they got it from. Alright.
Nathan Blackwell:Cool. Reminded me of Saturday Night Fever to where you had someone with a dream and then the the reality of their life was very unglamorous.
Kyle Olson:Yeah. Yeah. And they had that theatrical thing they put on. Right. That sort of the outfit.
Nathan Blackwell:They wanna be they wanna be fabulous. Yeah. You know? They wanna be something special and fancy.
Pete Wright:It's it is tricky, though. I think the the movie is is sort of it it struggles because of its it it is so adjacent to reality. Right? Mhmm. Prince is playing the kid, and he's portraying a troubled relationship with his father.
Pete Wright:Oh, right. He had a troubled relationship with his father, and he was abusive, and they divorced, and it was horrible. And for crying out loud, he didn't even fictionalize the locations. Right? Like, first half It's the fable.
Pete Wright:It's the fable ones. Right? Yeah. Yes. Yes.
Pete Wright:Yes. Absolutely. It is it is so tricky not to see this as Prince's story, but there are there really are some, you know, some places where fiction inserts itself. And I don't know that you have to care about that at all because it's so close. It's so close to supplanted truth.
Nathan Blackwell:I'm hoping the part that wasn't fictionalized is that he always carries a puppet with him.
Krissy Lenz:And is really good at ventriloquy.
Kyle Olson:Oh, yeah. Good.
Pete Wright:You guys, maybe his real hidden talent.
Kyle Olson:Is there anything he can do? God. I
Krissy Lenz:don't think so because
Pete Wright:and ventriloquy.
Nathan Blackwell:Yeah. Ventriloquy.
Kyle Olson:Yeah. It was it was strange to me because I lived in the Twin Cities for about ten years, so from about 2000 to 2010. And seeing it in 1984 was so fascinating to me because I was like, I've walked those streets. I've driven down that area. And even the fact that I I didn't realize the fact that the major locale that everyone wants is 1st Avenue.
Kyle Olson:I was like, I've been to 1st Avenue, like, a dozen times. I had no idea that it had this storied history. Like, I would I'm there to see they might be giants. I did not know that, like, this is the house that Prince built. It was it was kind the time.
Kyle Olson:Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. I mean, all all that stuff was happening right there. I was like I was like, oh, it's it was almost like a little, you know, time capsule that I get to go back and see.
Kyle Olson:And then and then just that that much then we were there. Then more suddenly, we're we're on Hennepin, and we're, like, seeing this now being reenacted again on stage. It was, yeah, it was a a fun surreal time of, like, traveling through time.
Krissy Lenz:With Prince as the soundtrack.
Kyle Olson:Yeah. Exactly. Couldn't ask for a better accompaniment.
Pete Wright:And and you can't really underscore enough just how important this movie was in 1984. Like, it was it was big. It was really, really big on a very small budget. And and even though it's a it's just a a whisper of a story of a movie, It it this thing really resonated with people. And I I don't know.
Pete Wright:I I I guess I was I guess I was one of them. It's interesting. I think that that it was it was eight mile that unseated Purple Rain in many of the records that Purple Rain set. So it's an auspicious mention that that eight mile sort of just bested and deeply bested Purple Rain in almost every creative angle too.
Kyle Olson:Well, I mean, but they don't they they did not have the one thing I think that he might was missing was they did not have Morris Day in the time. There was no
Krissy Lenz:equivalent that
Pete Wright:at all.
Krissy Lenz:Right. No. And that's just a misconception. Anyone Yeah. Yeah.
Krissy Lenz:He could have just popped in, thrown a woman into a dumpster.
Pete Wright:Asked what time it was. Yeah.
Nathan Blackwell:Right. Which was which was the custom of the time.
Krissy Lenz:That was one of the parts that Rocket walked in on, and he was like, mom, did you just throw a woman in the dumpster? And I was like, yes. They did, honey.
Kyle Olson:It was the eighties. It was rougher time. Yeah. Go back to bed, kid.
Nathan Blackwell:Yeah. Go back to bed, Gen z.
Pete Wright:So I don't know. What do you wanna what do you how do you wanna diagnose this movie?
Krissy Lenz:Yeah. I I don't know. So Let's let's first
Kyle Olson:say we all loved the music. Right? I mean, that's Yes.
Krissy Lenz:Of course. We agree. Of course. It starts with music. You start with let's go crazy.
Kyle Olson:Yes. Exactly. Like, from the start, already, like, a number one top 10 all timer to open the movie. So already, like, you're on board. So if it had been a concert film, I think it probably would have
Pete Wright:been a better movie. For sure.
Krissy Lenz:Yeah.
Pete Wright:Yeah. Which is which is evidenced by sign of the times, the concert film that inserted a little dash of story. That's a terrific, terrific movie, one of the greats. This is they they tried too hard, but I think it's really important to think about the music of this movie because so much of it, you talk about, like, the Minneapolis impact on this movie. So many of the songs, some of them one of them, I think, was computer blue, was actually recorded in in concert at first half live and just inserted into the movie.
Pete Wright:Many the rest of the songs that were in concert were recorded in first half for the movie and used in the movie. And only, I think, two songs were used sort of non diegetically. Right? Like, they were used as, like, montage songs. Mhmm.
Pete Wright:But the rest of the music was performed. And you and to imagine 1984, this movie comes out and you're living in Minneapolis, and you go see this movie. And this is a film that takes place in your stomping ground, and you very likely had seen that performance of that song even if it wasn't the specific one. He did it all the time at first half. Like, that was a that was a regular gig.
Pete Wright:That is kind of a monumental, life imitates art, imitates life kind of moment. And and so it it certainly explains why there is such a direct impact on the the city of Minneapolis. Mhmm. And and I'll just say as an as an aside, he was playing one of his concerts in in Paisley Park, and the neighbors called. It was too late.
Pete Wright:They needed him to shut down because of the noise ordinance. And the next day, the mayor passed a law that said the only person who can play music after the after the noise ordinance is Prince. Prince will never be shut up in the town of Chanhassen, Massachusetts or, Chanhassen, Minnesota. So that's the kind of impact that he has. How they ended up making a legitimately crappy movie out of that is stunning to me, but that's where we were.
Pete Wright:Mhmm.
Krissy Lenz:Well and I I don't think it's a crappy movie. I I think it is certainly a spectacle. It's something to watch. Like, I legitimately, like, other than prince becomes famous, I didn't know what was going to happen next. I was like Yeah.
Krissy Lenz:That's all I said.
Kyle Olson:Agreed.
Krissy Lenz:What what is going to happen? Like and and I one of my biggest beefs with, the movie Beaches was that you see Bette Midler singing songs to from beginning to end. And I was like, okay. We don't need to see Bette Midler sing songs from beginning to end. But I did not have that complaint with the Prince movies.
Krissy Lenz:I was like, you know what would be great? Another song from beginning to end. Yeah. Let's just
Kyle Olson:we get back on stage? That would be great. If we could get back on stage, like, that would be
Pete Wright:I found that the thing
Nathan Blackwell:that was really interesting about this movie, having seen movies where they they they, oh, we've gotta do another song or, you know, how many song how many songs do we have in this movie? Like, five, six, something like that? It felt like every song came out of a dramatic moment of the, like, of the character. Like, we're going to we're it's not that they're just on stage and they're performing. There's always the characters are performing the song.
Nathan Blackwell:Mhmm. You know? So maybe what the you know? So so, yeah, Morris and the time, they're trying to keep their spot, so they gotta perform, and they're going big. And then in response, the revolution or because he's angry, he's doing this.
Nathan Blackwell:So every it's felt like every single performance that they have had a context and a meaning to exist in the story. Yeah. It always felt like it was not it always felt like it was coming from the character, and there was some sort of thing going on behind it.
Kyle Olson:I think the only one that sort of undercuts your theory is the bird. So Right.
Krissy Lenz:Yeah. That's
Kyle Olson:the only things where I'm like, what is this doing in this movie? Yeah.
Krissy Lenz:That song was a little crazy. Yeah. But it was fun, and I loved every time they showed that I loved how much in sync dancing, how much synchronicity there was in the dancing of everybody. That was just even the people in the audience are like, step together, step left. Mhmm.
Krissy Lenz:Step together, step right. They're like, we're all doing this. And then bob your head down, and then bob your head up. They're like, we all know the moves. We're doing it.
Krissy Lenz:And I could just imagine someone being there being like, Oh, are we oh, I didn't nobody told me. There's the guys up in the catwalk doing the dancing and like
Pete Wright:Is that the most exhilarating right there, though? When they start doing that shuffle, I'm like, come on. I wanna be there.
Kyle Olson:The best.
Krissy Lenz:The
Pete Wright:best. The best.
Kyle Olson:And it's like that must that's like the the tradition of, like, from the the temptations and the four tops and, like, all that to this. And this is where it ends. Like, this is like, after this, then it all goes away. And it doesn't come back again until the boy bands. But it was Yeah.
Krissy Lenz:And just happened, and Kurt Cobain's like, I'm just gonna stand in one place.
Kyle Olson:Yeah. Right. And then yeah. When they did like, every single person is do in sync. I was like, oh, I did not know this was going to happen.
Kyle Olson:It makes it so much more exciting.
Krissy Lenz:Mhmm. And I can just imagine all the rehearsals because he has such a contentious relationship with his band, especially the women in his band Yeah. That I you know, the some portion of their rehearsal is him going, no. Damn it. Together.
Krissy Lenz:Step right. And then being like, it's too hard, the kid. When can we do our dances? Never. There was a little bit of something that I felt was out of place in this movie, which was the shtick between Morris and his butler question mark.
Pete Wright:Jerome. Jerome. His man. Yeah. Mhmm.
Krissy Lenz:Okay. Yeah. Where they're doing a a, like, vaudevillian shtick about what the password is, and the password is what? And they're like, wait. So what is the password?
Krissy Lenz:What? Exactly. Yeah. You got it. And it's like, who's on first?
Krissy Lenz:Rocket walked into that part too, and he was like, is this is this who's on first now? What's happening, mom?
Nathan Blackwell:Yes.
Krissy Lenz:I was like, don't worry about it, son. It's the eighties.
Nathan Blackwell:Get out
Krissy Lenz:of here. I'm watching the movie.
Pete Wright:I think there's a there there's a certain charm to Morris Day and and to Jerome Benton. First of all, I mean, Morris Day's on stage charisma is legendary. Like, the guy just oozes it. And anytime you see him interviewed, he's just he's so brilliant. Like, he just is over the top everywhere.
Pete Wright:He's he's got this character so nailed down. And that's why I think a lot of the stuff that that we see of of, you know, Morris and Jerome in the movie, it it feels really natural. Like, what you're seeing in the movie is what you would see on stage. And Mhmm. That's that's why it's a challenge to watch some of the other characters in this movie, the performers in this movie who don't have that same sort of screen presence, right, that that don't carry as much.
Pete Wright:I mean, they're the real people. You talk about the revolution, and you've got, you know, Bobby Z and Brown Mark and Matt Fink and these guys.
Kyle Olson:And Lisa. Yeah.
Pete Wright:Yeah. And Wendy and Lisa, of course, that that are incredible composers and performers, and they don't necessarily have the same screen presence. And and I'll say, Prince Mhmm. Who exudes, like, sexuality, but not a terrific actor. So I I think you look at Jerome and and and, and Morris Day, and you have to celebrate those guys as, like, the high point of the vibe of this movie.
Pete Wright:And I I think they're just enormously fun to watch.
Kyle Olson:But it does seem like they were like, they came in from their own movie. Yes. Yeah. It's like they somewhere out there in an alternate timeline, there is a more stay in the time's big adventure, like Pee wee's big adventure. And this is just them coming in to do that little bit and then going back out again.
Kyle Olson:So that that exists somewhere in the multiverse. But yeah.
Krissy Lenz:Like the Rosencrantz and Guildenstern of this movie.
Kyle Olson:Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. There and so they are cartoonish because that's the personas that they had, which for the for the realism that is in this movie, it does kind of tonally doesn't match. But then they have those scenes where, like, it's just a couple of guys talking about the business of running 1st Avenue.
Kyle Olson:Was like, what is this
Krissy Lenz:doing? Yeah. Yep. But they like, I think Morris had a lot of the responsibility on his shoulders of delivering to us exposition, like, okay, we want the kid out. So we're gonna put together a girl group, and they're gonna take the stage, and they're gonna kick, prince in the revolution or the kid in the revolution out.
Krissy Lenz:And that's the plan. Everybody on board? Okay. Here we go. So he he does put together his girl group with Apollonia, who everyone everyone sees her and just goes, she will be mine.
Krissy Lenz:Oh, yes. She will be mine. Morris sees her and is like, I I I'm gonna make you love me is what he says to her. And Prince sees her and stands creepily behind her for a long time and then disappears.
Nathan Blackwell:Like a purple ghost.
Kyle Olson:Uh-huh.
Krissy Lenz:Like a purr purple ghost. Purple ghost.
Kyle Olson:Yeah. It is not one of the all time great love stories. Even even on the
Krissy Lenz:edge. Uh-huh. I was so shocked. Like, because you you see a scene beforehand of the dad and the mom fighting, and the dad hits the mom, and it's like, oh, that's very shocking. And it's and it's like, you know, gritty and real, and it's in this fun music movie.
Krissy Lenz:And so that was a little shocking. But then when he hits Apollonia
Kyle Olson:Mhmm.
Krissy Lenz:I was like, okay. I'm sure everyone else saw that this was going there, but I was shocked. I was like, Prince, stop it.
Pete Wright:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The cycle. That was cut.
Pete Wright:I mean, I I love your thoughts on how that was cut together because it every time I watch it, it feels like that it it was cut together faster to the point where it's like he's the dad hits the mom, and it's like the same swing we cut back to this to Prince and Apollonia and Prince hitting Apollonia. And I find it super disconcerting from from both the emotional beat and the filmmaking beat. I am jarred moving back and forth between these two sequences, and I I Mhmm. I it does it doesn't work for me. I get what it's trying to communicate, but but the the cutting during that, the beat them up montage is kinda terrible.
Krissy Lenz:Yeah. But I I I thought that montage was so fun. It's like, yeah, just get on your bike and your high heels and ride your troubles away. Ride your troubles away and just we'll we'll see the troubles flashing before us, and and we'll realize the connection you're trying to make. And it's like, man, you know what else we don't do anymore?
Krissy Lenz:Montages like that.
Pete Wright:Yeah. Road trip montages. Right? Just like I need to clear my head and drive montages. Where did those go?
Krissy Lenz:We need we need more of that in today's cinema. Mhmm. And and they do
Kyle Olson:have genuine chemistry together, but, like, I did not want them together by the
Pete Wright:of the movie. I was like,
Kyle Olson:Polonia, get away from this guy.
Krissy Lenz:Yeah. You know? Red flags. Red flags. Yes.
Krissy Lenz:Yeah.
Nathan Blackwell:I mean,
Krissy Lenz:Apollonia Purple flags. Purple flags.
Nathan Blackwell:Understand that he needed a love interest, but Apollonia just came out. She kinda sucked, you know, when we first met her. Just she just wanted to be famous, and she's willing to do anything to do it. We had no connection if she loved the music or not. You know?
Kyle Olson:You're in her mysterious past in New York.
Pete Wright:So can I just can we can we jump back into the land of the real for a second? Because I think this is really fascinating and a little bit bitter, and I just wanna know if you think it it is. So this whole con conceit of of Purple Rain, the album and the movie were developed as one giant project. Right? Like, the the music was written as part of the movie, which was written to showcase the music, and it just is a big snake eating its tail.
Pete Wright:That includes the bands in here. So Apollonia six, ironically, three women was the band that it was as like everything in prince's orbit. It was put together by prince kind of for the movie, although sex shooter was was a bit of a hit which was used in the movie, but it was actually a released song. But here's the thing. Apollonia six was the successor to another prince girl band from a year before called vanity six, which was also three women.
Krissy Lenz:And Oh, I was gonna say, how many people were in vanity six?
Pete Wright:They released an album in '92 or in '82. They had a big hit with nasty girl. That was a big deal. And, vanity was originally cast in the role that became Apollonia in Purple Rain. Like, she was supposed to be the female lead, and she left over money.
Pete Wright:She left over financial dispute. She wanted more of a substantial deal with Prince than he was offering, and Apollonia was brought in as her replacement. So they manufactured a girl group for Apollonia that looked and sounded exactly like Vanity six, which actually had more promise. And it got Wow. Snuffed out.
Krissy Lenz:I can see Prince just being like, okay, I'm hearing you say no. That is unacceptable to me. I will recreate all of the circumstances. Uh-huh. We'll just I will go keep going until someone says yes and does it exactly the way I want it to be.
Pete Wright:Yeah. Yeah. Because Prince is the ultimate red pill. Like, you think you can't be replaced? You can be replaced.
Pete Wright:These two can be replaced. The entire room we're in, I'll burn it down and replace it.
Kyle Olson:Like Mhmm.
Pete Wright:The world can be replaced if you're if you believe. Yeah. Hard enough.
Kyle Olson:We yeah. Pete and I are both prince fans, but the man was not a saint. And and he left a lot of scars behind him, and burned a lot of bridges, and then got to that point, like, where you if you listen to, like, the Kevin Smith story about working with Prince that Mhmm. Yeah. He got to this point where he was in Prince World and he was making intro music and living in a complete delusion that he could do sort of whatever he wanted whenever he wanted and, everyone had to, like, orbit that or get out.
Kyle Olson:So and you can see some of it starting here where, like like, literally on film at at 26 saying, like, no. I am I am the most important person in this band. I am this band. You're just the people I have to play the music that I have written. You're the puppets.
Pete Wright:Yeah. Yeah.
Krissy Lenz:Yeah. Is so interesting because carry around with me and Yeah. Ventriloquized.
Pete Wright:That's right. Yeah. It's it's Prince is very Lovecraftian. Right? You have to imagine Prince as having tentacles into the Prince unified universe, And the movie actually dials it back.
Pete Wright:When you when you step back onto the production of the movie, he created every group, everything that was touched, was released in public. It was all him. Every single thing that you see in the movie and around it was an extension of his creative universe, and that's extraordinary. But the movie plays him as a petulant, like, little ass and Yeah. Not the the actual architect of the whole thing.
Nathan Blackwell:Wow.
Krissy Lenz:Yeah. I think that's what I was waiting for was some and I think they tried to do it with the moment he's the the music is scattering all when he is tearing his room apart and the music is scattering all around him. I think that was their moment to be like, oh, he you know, he's beautiful minding. He's seeing the music like it's coming through. It's it's he must speak the music.
Krissy Lenz:It's the language of his soul. And then it you know, Purple Rain is this big hit. And then what happens after that is he walks by Apollonia to go back to the stage because they're like yelling for him. And she kisses him on the cheek and he just breezes by.
Pete Wright:Yeah.
Krissy Lenz:He just breezes by, and he's like
Kyle Olson:He's like, no. No. I found my I don't need you anymore. Mhmm.
Krissy Lenz:Yeah. My muse is me.
Pete Wright:Mhmm. Yeah. Right. It's it's just sort of self propelling. I don't need much.
Nathan Blackwell:Yeah. It it is interesting, though, that if he really was orchestrating everything, it's interesting to see how he he is playing a character who is allowed to look bad.
Pete Wright:Mhmm. That's a really interesting observation. Yeah. Mhmm.
Nathan Blackwell:You know? Like, you know, to show that he is repeating a cycle of abuse and he's fighting against it.
Krissy Lenz:Mhmm.
Nathan Blackwell:You know, to show that he is rejecting his bandmates for making stupid music that he doesn't wanna play, but then does eventually play it. Like, he's definitely in the wrong in that in those moments, and he allows himself to be that that character.
Pete Wright:That's a that's a great observation, and I think that's really true and Mhmm. Something that you don't get from modern Hollywood stories. Right?
Kyle Olson:Right. Or, like, vanity projects. Yeah. Especially vanity. I was thinking that too.
Kyle Olson:Especially vanity projects where, like, they always wanna do is, like, I'm the best. I'm the greatest. I'm the I'm the hero. I'm
Pete Wright:Right. Just really looking for a movie. Yeah. Yes. The Michael Jackson movie, I think, is gonna be worth talking about.
Nathan Blackwell:Yeah. Yeah.
Pete Wright:Gonna be talking right there.
Kyle Olson:Yeah. I was thinking if if that Madonna movie ever happens that she wants to write and direct and start. Right. Right. Oh, boy.
Krissy Lenz:Well, the only Madonna movie I need is weird, the Alenkovic story.
Kyle Olson:That's right.
Krissy Lenz:That that to me is the Madonna story as well. But, yeah, that's that's Prince too to be like, oh, you don't like me? Okay.
Kyle Olson:I don't
Krissy Lenz:like either. Yeah.
Pete Wright:I don't like you
Krissy Lenz:so much. And yet, I am prince.
Kyle Olson:Uh-huh. Yeah. Funky.
Krissy Lenz:It makes me think of the Saturday Night Live parodies too with, like, prince and Beyonce Uh-huh. Where he just whispers in her ear, and she's like, prince wants to know. Whatever prince wants to know. I don't know. It's silly.
Krissy Lenz:It's silly. I I
Kyle Olson:even while I was watching it, though, I was thinking of myself, like, okay. If I'm the manager of First Avenue and then Prince of that does all the stuff and then just perforate stuff to, like I'm like, yeah. Great. Morse Day of the Time have a show. You have a couple of songs.
Kyle Olson:Like, I'm sorry. I gotta go with them. Like, the
Pete Wright:In one case, one song. Yeah. Yeah. Right?
Kyle Olson:Yeah. It was like, yeah. I can see people would wanna come back to see more stay at the time over and over again because they're putting on a full entity as opposed to, like, will he show up? Won't he show up? Like, I have to sell tickets, man.
Kyle Olson:Like yeah.
Krissy Lenz:And I love the part where he was like, your music only makes sense to you. And I was like, yeah. Kind of.
Kyle Olson:Yeah.
Krissy Lenz:Sure. Except everybody in the world is like so everybody who's like a little into Prince is like super into Prince. So you're like, there's a really wide gap between people who are over here on me and Nathan's side.
Nathan Blackwell:I feel like it's not like, oh my god, I relate to Prince's song so much. You are like jumping into his pool and saying, this is an interesting it it is still his. It's not yours. Like, you are witnessing Prince and being and visiting Prince World.
Kyle Olson:Yeah. As opposed to another eighties icon, which who had another terrible biopic. Bruce Springsteen, like, that's his whole thing was I'm the everyman. I'm you. I'm I'm working beside you on the, you know, on the on the construction line or whatever too.
Kyle Olson:I'm a regular guy. And Prince is like, I am by no means regular in in any way. Yes. Right. He he is You have to come to me.
Kyle Olson:I'm never going to talk to you.
Nathan Blackwell:Right. It's visiting Mars. You know?
Pete Wright:You guys, I I mean, I when you think about this movie, though, I you go to Paisley Park, and he was building the studio and his home while he was also turning it into a museum at the same time. Every album that he finished, he dedicated a room to that album and decorated with clippings and outfits and guitars that he used. So this I mean, it's making me think about this and and the things that he touches with making this movie, just how intentional if you zoom out one more node to see where the movie album fits into the legacy he was actively architecting while he was still alive. I can't think of any other artist who puts that much, presence of thought into their legacy while they're still living, and that's what he was doing. All of this represents what he wanted you to see about him at the time.
Krissy Lenz:I love that. But what he was really missing was a shopping montage. That's what I needed. I trying on
Kyle Olson:heels, like, back and forth. Yes.
Krissy Lenz:Where does he get those shirts?
Kyle Olson:Yep. Yep.
Krissy Lenz:How much do they cost? Uh-huh. Yep. How does he
Kyle Olson:Who who made that motorcycle? How did they customize it?
Krissy Lenz:Yeah. How does he afford it?
Kyle Olson:Yeah. Yes.
Krissy Lenz:Because that was one thing I didn't get any of either was like, oh, he's got a hard scrabble life, but he didn't seem to be hurting for money.
Pete Wright:Right. Right. You kinda get a sense that every dime he walks away with from the one or two songs he plays a night, he immediately goes and buys buys another, like, bejeweling gun.
Kyle Olson:There's the whole cut story line where he works at Claire's.
Krissy Lenz:Yeah. Totally. I would have loved to see a little bit of that in there. Like, how do we source the look of Prince? But I guess I have to go to Paisley Park to find that out.
Nathan Blackwell:Is any of that covered in graffiti bridge?
Kyle Olson:Unfortunately, it
Pete Wright:is. Those holes.
Nathan Blackwell:I'm so fascinated. So okay. So it is a unofficial sequel to Purple Rain. Right?
Kyle Olson:No. It's an official sequel. Like, he's playing the kid, and it's Yeah.
Nathan Blackwell:Oh, it is.
Kyle Olson:Later on, it's all the people are talking about and have the events of it, but it is by no means connected to reality in any way, shape, or form.
Pete Wright:Mhmm. I I have to say, I mean, if you, if you wanna see a a more interesting exercise in filmmaking that is also not a great movie, but is is an exercise in curiosity that that I enjoy even more than this, it is under the cherry moon, and Jerome Betton is back. Jerome actually plays prince's best friend. And Okay. And they are in France together on the Riviera, and he plays at at a high end restaurant.
Pete Wright:And it's all black and white, and it's it's really it aspires to this auteur kind of feeling. Prince is still prince in a movie, and it's not it doesn't get much better than that. But the rest of the movie, I think, has some curiosities to it that I like.
Nathan Blackwell:Interesting. Okay.
Pete Wright:Yeah. It's worth watching.
Krissy Lenz:I love it. I well, I also wanted to talk about the part just one more quick little part I wanted to talk about, which like, again, goes to Prince's kind of a dick, is that Apollonia gives him this beautiful guitar.
Pete Wright:Right?
Nathan Blackwell:Yes.
Krissy Lenz:And he's just like, this mine now. I take. I take.
Pete Wright:Yeah. Yeah. I that little bit of fictionalization, I don't quite understand because that guitar, which we don't really see that much in the movie, is became his icon for the next era
Krissy Lenz:Mhmm.
Pete Wright:Of Prince. Right? With that that was a a very important custom made guitar to him, And it's made in a it was made in a place in Seattle, and they made several of them. There's one left, and it's at Paisley Park. And it is it it's an
Kyle Olson:icon the Super Bowl?
Pete Wright:What?
Kyle Olson:Isn't that one of the ones in that same well, that same line or whatever that he played at the Super Bowl. Right?
Pete Wright:Yeah. Yeah. It is. He had several different colors made Right.
Kyle Olson:That were
Pete Wright:all kind of in his in that space. But it's so interesting that that was that he had the foresight enough to put that guitar in here, but many all the other guitar sequences that we get from him, I don't think is he play even playing that one at the at baby I'm a star at the end? I don't think he is. He is playing a guitar. I can't remember the name of it, but all the other concert sequences, he's playing his favorite guitar, which is kind of a woody electric guitar that is Mhmm.
Pete Wright:Still on display. It was his favorite favorite guitar. It was the guitar he played in the, classic sort of, viral clip of him playing at George Harrison's Kennedy Center honors. I mean, it's just extraordinary, and he throws it into the audience. And, yeah, I mean, it's just great, but we don't get any more of that guitar in the movie.
Pete Wright:And I think that is that is sad.
Krissy Lenz:Mhmm.
Pete Wright:It's small. It's very small. It looks like a normal guitar,
Kyle Olson:but it's not a big guitar. It's like
Pete Wright:a mini guitar. It's like my first guitar. Right? Yeah. Yeah.
Krissy Lenz:Uh-huh. Okay. So I think that I can't begin to guess where the ratings are gonna be, but on a scale of one poofy white shirt to 10 poofy white shirts, how many poofy white shirts do you give the movie Purple Rain? And we'll start with you, Pete, since we didn't start with you this whole time yet. You get to start this time.
Pete Wright:Oh god. Come on, you guys. It is all the poofy white shirts. If you find the other poofy white shirts, I'll allow you to add them later in buried in the closet somewhere. Add them to my collection of poofy white shirts that I adore this movie, and I recognize it's that there's just a lot of dumb.
Pete Wright:There's a lot of misogyny. It's poorly cut. It many performances are deeply wooden, and I love this movie. It's part of my foundational, like, memory as a child. So yeah.
Pete Wright:We've all gotten all
Nathan Blackwell:the shit.
Kyle Olson:We do. Yeah.
Pete Wright:So many of us, those movies are better movies.
Kyle Olson:Yes. Yes. So
Nathan Blackwell:It's like the three amigos will will never earn an Oscar or will probably induct it into the Smithsonian or whatever.
Kyle Olson:Yeah. They will never be collection.
Nathan Blackwell:Correct. But god bless that movie for all time.
Kyle Olson:Yeah. Exactly.
Krissy Lenz:I agree. I agree. Yeah. What about you, Kyle? How many puffy white shirts?
Kyle Olson:I I I I recognize the the the passion of people. Like, I can't match that. So I'm still gonna say I'm still gonna say higher than I would expect. I would say I'm gonna say seven just because Fast Forward exists.
Pete Wright:Mhmm. Yeah.
Kyle Olson:So for for me, like, the seeing the time capsule of of what the twin cities were like in the eighties, plus those concert performances, all of them, like like, universally, every performance in this is great. Like, not just like, yeah.
Krissy Lenz:They did
Kyle Olson:a pretty good job. Like, it's great. And if you could just, like, get past just jump the dialogue thing and cut it together, like, maybe, like, there's, like, a, I don't know, fifty minute cut where it's just all the performances. It's one of the greatest concert films of all time. So you gotta give it props for that.
Nathan Blackwell:Interesting.
Krissy Lenz:Awesome. Where did you land, Nathan?
Nathan Blackwell:I'm also gonna give it a seven. So I you know, yes, it had flaws, but if you can like, for me, again, being the first time, it was really all about Prince. It was really about the performances and just the fascination of Prince as an actor. You know?
Kyle Olson:Mhmm.
Nathan Blackwell:Yeah. No. I I had a good time.
Pete Wright:I'm
Krissy Lenz:sorry. Think it's a seven. I think it's a seven too, because boy, was it something to to behold.
Nathan Blackwell:Mhmm. Yes.
Krissy Lenz:And I could see having a really good time going to see this at a revival screening at like a movie theater with just a room full of people who are all gonna be like going crazy.
Nathan Blackwell:With their own puppets.
Krissy Lenz:And singing along. Yeah. They give you a puppet. That's the gift is they give you a puppet. And yeah.
Krissy Lenz:So I thought it was it was super fun. And even the things I didn't like about it, I like that I didn't like them. Did that make does that make sense? Like, was like, oh, I don't like that Prince is being such a jerk, but
Kyle Olson:Mhmm.
Krissy Lenz:I like that that's the way this movie is.
Nathan Blackwell:It's a time capsule film. You know? Not all the movies even though all the movies we cover are from the eighties, not all of them are really time capsule films. Yes. Where you're seeing a slice of a specific moment in time from a specific person that you really feel like you're just kind of appearing into that era and witnessing it as an observer.
Krissy Lenz:Yeah.
Kyle Olson:Yeah. And it's so fast. I it's always fascinating to me, like, of what else was around to the idea that in 1984, you walk up to the movie theater and and there's a movie poster for Purple Rain next to a movie poster for Ghostbusters. Mhmm. Yeah.
Kyle Olson:Wow. Like, at the same time, both theaters were like the studios were like, I think we know what people want. Yeah. Yeah. Fascinating.
Krissy Lenz:Wow. And they were both right.
Kyle Olson:They're both right.
Krissy Lenz:There's there's room for everyone in this world. That's right. Yeah. So what about and I'm super excited to hear them. What about a deep cut recommendation?
Krissy Lenz:We'll start with you again, Pete. What do you what's off the beaten path that you recommend based on people enjoying Purple Rain?
Pete Wright:Oh my gosh. I well, I would say I I think you guys have already mentioned a couple of them. Right? Like, looking at Saturday Night Fever or but I would I yeah. Footloose isn't a deep cut, but it kind of has the same vibe.
Krissy Lenz:Mhmm.
Pete Wright:I I I'm gonna say something that it's hard to imagine it's a deep cut, but there are, I think, two of the four A Star is Born movies are are worth watching and and are music movies that are actually interesting. And believe it or not It's
Kyle Olson:a game for which one are the
Pete Wright:Good. Do you wanna do you wanna play? Which go ahead. Which one do you
Nathan Blackwell:think Uh-huh.
Kyle Olson:Yeah. I would say for you, this is this is off your thing. Yeah. Okay. I would say the first one
Pete Wright:Okay. Okay.
Kyle Olson:And and the barbers try stand one.
Pete Wright:That's interesting. You're you're one for two. I the and I should take it back. My I was too hard on all four of them when I said two are worth watching. Okay.
Pete Wright:The first one is also very good, and it's prehayes code. And so you get people, like, in black and white acting like terrible people. But, Barbara Streisand and Chris Kristofferson is fantastic and also Bradley Cooper and Lady Gaga. I mean, those those two versions of the same story, I think, are really good, but there are, in fact, four versions of a star is born, and two of the four are the top. And I think they any one of them is a deep cut movie now.
Krissy Lenz:So Mhmm.
Pete Wright:That's where I would go.
Krissy Lenz:Perfect. Excellent. I love it. Another music movie. Music movie.
Krissy Lenz:I love it. What do you say, Kyle?
Kyle Olson:Well, I since we talked about it here, I would say if you're interested in in the Prince experiences of two, we are talking about sign of the times. I would say avoid the film of graffiti bridge, but the soundtrack is amazing. Awesome. Like, it is honestly, for the there there must be some kind of weird scale of, like, the quality of music for the quality of film. It is unbelievable.
Kyle Olson:Like, the span of
Krissy Lenz:that.
Kyle Olson:But just the music itself has some of his best stuff and also the stuff he made for other people. So that's where Tevin Campbell's round and round comes from is from that album. And he's got, all like, George Clinton. I mean, there's there's tons of people that he had he wrote songs for that performed them in that as well. So there's great print songs that edits with, the new power generation, which is the band that comes after the revolution.
Kyle Olson:And it's I I've I've listened that was one of the ones that was, like, during my college days, heavy rotation, like, over and over and over again. I love, love, love all those songs, and I still think they hold up today. Yeah.
Krissy Lenz:Alright. Perfect. I love
Pete Wright:Thieves in the temples. Track. Yeah. Crazy good. The whole that whole album.
Pete Wright:Yeah. Okay.
Nathan Blackwell:That's awesome.
Krissy Lenz:I don't I don't know that song.
Pete Wright:Oh my gosh. Oh. What are we even doing?
Kyle Olson:Well podcast. There's a mixtape headed your way.
Krissy Lenz:I'll take it. Yay. Nathan, what did you choose?
Nathan Blackwell:Well, mine, it's not so deep, but this movie got me into the mood to see this other movie. And it's also about behind the scenes of a band. Mhmm. It's also got some great killer tunes. It's also about facing your past and afraid of repeating a cycle.
Nathan Blackwell:And it's also about facing demons and also fighting demons. In this case, literal demons. So k pop demon hunters is by deep cut.
Krissy Lenz:Oh. So yeah. It's
Kyle Olson:I'm sorry. I I haven't heard that cut. It's so secure.
Nathan Blackwell:It's so good. As soon like, as soon as I finish this, I just had to, like, load up, like, two or three. Like, I'm a recent convert to k pop female hunters. I'm someone who doesn't have a consistent Netflix subscription. So I just watched it, like, two months ago.
Krissy Lenz:It's Oh, yeah.
Kyle Olson:I sometimes things get overhyped and stuff too, but, like, that one worthy of all of the hype.
Nathan Blackwell:Yeah. Yeah. I I if anything, I avoided it because of that, and I am a full convert. So yep.
Kyle Olson:I thought you're gonna say kiss meets the phantom of the park. So I was No.
Krissy Lenz:Love that, Nathan. I love that you love k pop demon hunters. That's just such an enduring detail for our listeners to learn.
Kyle Olson:Hey. Chrissy Lenz, co host of the most excellent eighties podcast. Do you have a deep cut recommendation for us?
Krissy Lenz:Well, mine's not that deep either, but I, was watching this and just thinking of the music and how the music is used in the Stranger Things finale. Oh. Because they play When Doves Cry and Purple Rain at two very high, emotional moments, and it was just so perfect and good, to hear those songs in those moments. And so I was like, yay. Get some prints in there.
Krissy Lenz:The soundtrack for the whole thing is top notch, but, the finale episode, which I saw in a movie theater. And so it was so epic when they played those songs in it, and I I cried. Say what you will about the stranger things finale. I cried to an embarrassing degree that the children were like, mom, are you okay? And I was like, yes.
Pete Wright:Moms are allowed to feel.
Nathan Blackwell:Yeah. Moms are people too.
Kyle Olson:That's the theme of this episode.
Nathan Blackwell:Right? Moms are people too.
Krissy Lenz:This is our Mother's Day episode. Yes.
Kyle Olson:Yeah. Right.
Krissy Lenz:I love it. So, Kyle, where can people hear your dulcet tones out in the rest of the world?
Kyle Olson:I am currently doing a podcast called craft and chaos. It is a show about how do you make art when it feels like the world is on fire. So we talk about all things
Nathan Blackwell:that keep
Kyle Olson:us inspired, and and it's and it gets very, very silly. We're just about, like, gathering by the campfire to be like, okay. How are we getting through this? What are you writing? What are you reading?
Kyle Olson:You know, how are things going? And we try we it's it's advice, but it's more just about us, like, having a good time. So it's not we're we're not here to, like, say, these are the rules of how to make the thing. It's more just about, like, hey, we're all trying to make something amazing. So come along with us and have some fun.
Nathan Blackwell:Great.
Krissy Lenz:I love it. That sounds amazing. I can't wait to begin my listen. And that can, of course, be found wherever the finest podcasts are stored.
Kyle Olson:At truestory.fm.
Krissy Lenz:Yeah. That's the place. And, Pete, what should people listen to if they wanna hear more Pete Wright?
Pete Wright:Well, since Kyle already mentioned a show that I am on with him What? I will mention a show that I am on with him, and that is the Marvel movie minute. We are about to begin the release of our episodes where we, the two of us plus Matthew Fox and Rob Kobosko are covering the minutes of Captain America, the winter soldier. The ninth film in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, five minutes at a time, and we are just thrilled to be able to pull ourselves together and talk about this movie after Thor the
Kyle Olson:Dark World.
Pete Wright:So Oh my gosh. Marvel movie minute, and you can find that also at truestory.fm. I think we even have we have a URL for that one, marvelmovieminute.com and craftandchaos.fun. Those are the two URLs for the show.
Krissy Lenz:Okay. Awesome. Perfect. I I love the Marvel movie minute. Excited for the winter soldier.
Krissy Lenz:That's Rocket's favorite good one. Of all the Marvels. Yeah. So super excited for that. Wonderful.
Krissy Lenz:Nathan, where can people find your filmmaking endeavors?
Nathan Blackwell:Squishystudios.com is probably the easiest thing. You can check out our short films, our feature film, the last movie ever made, or you can check, Amazon and, and Apple for last movie ever made.
Krissy Lenz:Wonderful. And to be.
Pete Wright:And
Krissy Lenz:to be. Yay. To be. And you can find me at the Neighborhood Comedy Theater in Downtown Mesa, Arizona every Friday and Saturday night doing improv comedy for your delight and amusement. Or hey, find me on TrueStory FM at Gank That Drink, a supernatural drinking game, which is where we watch episodes of Supernatural and make up drinking games to go along with them.
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Krissy Lenz:So get all that and more when you go become a member of True Story FM. Okay. Thank you so much for being here, Pete and Kyle. And and Nathan, thank you as well for always being here.
Nathan Blackwell:Sure. Why not? Thanks for always being here.
Krissy Lenz:Thanks for always I love here.
Pete Wright:Well, I love being here. I love talking about Prince. Thank you guys so much for
Nathan Blackwell:being here. Yeah. Thank you. Both of you guys. Thank you.
Krissy Lenz:Yay. And remember, when you're out there in the world, keep the most excellent eighties movies motto in mind. Be excellent to each other and party on.
Nathan Blackwell:Party on news.