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. Welcome to the Writing Glitch.
I'm Cheri Dotterer your classroom coach.
Today we have John Monroe.
He is the head of the GOW
School in Buffalo, New York.
The GOW is a primary, no, it's not.
It's a premier.
The GOW is a premier boarding
and day school for students
with learning disabilities in
grades five through postgraduate.
Just about 20 miles outside Buffalo, New
York, and I've gotta say it's a little
on the envious side of me because I
absolutely fell in love with Niagara when
I was there, and you're not that far away.
So welcome to the show.
Great.
Thank you Cheri.
I appreciate you taking time this
afternoon to have this conversation.
It's a terrific school and I know
it's in your wheelhouse in terms of
the work that you're doing, so I look
forward to a productive conversation
and hope to share more details
with you about the GOW School, it's
mission and the work that we're doing
to transform the life trajectories
of so many wonderful children.
Fantastic.
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But now let's find out a little
bit more about the GOW School.
Tell us a little bit about yourself
and what is the GOW School?
Great.
Thank you Cheri.
And I just have to say, I love the
phrase in your spot, ignite Learning,
and that's a motto that we use quite
often here at the Go School because many
of our learners arrive at Go as broken
learners and have been knocked down
to the mat a number of times in their.
Previous educational settings
and they discover a program with
extremely small classes with expert
teachers that, that, that instill
confidence and indeed ignite learning.
So I'm excited to dig into
that topic with you today.
I. A quick background.
Again, my name is John Monroe and
this is my second year serving as
the head of school at the Goo School.
Prior to serving Goo, I led a small
K through nine independent school
in Fairfield, Connecticut called
Fairfield Country Day School.
Traditional school very few
students with learning differences.
So this is a new, a new mission for me
and frankly, one that's very inspiring
nothing against some of those traditional
schools out here, but I think I can
speak for myself and our faculty, that
we are highly motivated by the work
we do here because it is meaningful.
We're helping underdogs who have
been knocked down to the mat.
And it's fulfilling and motivating work.
It was really the reason why I came to the
Gow School and now I'm living that mission
and doing my best to advance that mission.
Fantastic.
Tell us a little bit more about the
history, because when we were on the
phone a little while ago, you were telling
me it's been around for many years.
So yeah, thank it's a
very interesting history.
So we are in our 99th year as a
school and obviously very exciting
about excited about celebrating
our centennial next year.
The school was founded in
1926 by two individuals Peter
Gow and Dr. Samuel Orton.
Peter Gow in the early 1920s was
teaching English at a private all
boys school in the city of Buffalo
called the Nichols School in.
He began growing more and more frustrated
with a small handful of students
that he was teaching who were clearly
very bright high intelligent highly
intelligent but struggled mightily with
spelling and with reading, and with
writing, and he didn't understand why.
So he took it upon himself to start
a small school, as you said, 20 miles
outside of Buffalo in South Wales, New
York, that would focus on supporting
these students and teaching them the
skills necessary for them to be successful
academically in college and beyond.
And so as he was getting this school off
the ground in its infancy in 1926, he had.
Recently started
conversations with a neuro.
Scientist Dr. Samuel Orton, who was
one of the early pioneers in, in,
in understanding the connections
between neurology and learning.
He, at the time, I believe, was
working at Iowa and then moved to
New York City in the mid 1920s.
And Peter Goo and Dr. Orton, Dr. Sammy
Orton, got together on numerous occasions
to discuss this conundrum of how do we.
How do we impact and how do we
teach these students who are really
struggling with their reading?
Peter Gow provided a school and a
wonderful pedagogical philosophy.
And in partnership with Dr. Orton, he
provided the neuroscience behind what
was going on, and he was referring
students to attend the GOW school.
So in 1926, the school got off the ground.
It was the foundation of the
work that they did centered
around dyslexic thinking.
It also led to the development of
our signature curricula, which is
still in place right now, known as
reconstructive language also known
as RL to all of our students and.
We can dive in.
I can certainly talk to you
a little bit about about rl.
But over the last 99 years, the
school has grown to be a globally
recognized boarding school students
from grades five to postgraduate level.
It was an all boys school until about
2012 where we admitted the first girls
to Gau, and right now we are about.
Two thirds boys and one third girls, and
the number of female students is growing.
About 85 to 90% of our students are
boarding students and another 10 to 15%
live locally here in the Buffalo area.
You said international.
You have students from
outside the country.
We do.
We were actually a little stronger
internationally before Covid where we were
probably about 20, maybe close to 25% of
our student population was international.
Today we're at about 15%, and
frankly, we're looking to.
Regain that international population.
But we have we have students
spread out from across the world.
We have students from Oman, we have
students from just north of US in Canada.
We have students from Ecuador, we've
had students from Spain, we've had
students from United Arab Emirates.
You name the country almost all
of them have been represented
over time here at Goo.
And again, typically small numbers from
multiple comp countries rather than a
large number from one singular country.
Bermuda is an interesting feeder country
for us and as part of the culture, I think
in that country regarding students looking
at gout to help support their needs.
Very interesting.
I just wanna sit there a
minute and just absorb that.
We've had students coming here to the
United States from all of these outside
areas and they're learning English,
but they probably were coming because
they were struggling with their own
language to begin with, I would imagine.
So how did you bridge that?
Gap between their native
language and English.
So that's a good question.
So I would say most, almost all of our.
International students
are fluent in English.
We do not provide a formal,
separate ESL program.
We have support in that area for students
that need it, but really the work that
we're doing is on their remediation.
Their strengthening of skills that will
allow them to be successful academically.
We are a college preparatory school.
99% of our students go on to college
and have successful experiences that
lead them into particular careers.
So that is our, that is our primary
focus, is to build their level.
Of reading and their level of
academic confidence and their maturity
so that they can have successful
experiences in college and beyond.
So those two strands of our
mission go hand in hand.
Now, before we get into the re
reconstructive language, let's
sit in there on the boarding
school idea for a minute.
What extracurricular program do you have?
Because they're not in school 24 hours a
day, they, there's gotta be other things
that are bringing them to your school.
What are some of the other extracurricular
activities that you have provided?
Yeah, good question.
Thank you, Cheri.
Really the number one draw
that is attracting families
and students to our school.
Is our mission to support
dyslexic thinkers and those with
language-based learning differences.
That's our bread and butter.
It's a pretty intensive
structured program.
Our students have classes six days
a week Monday through Saturday.
I. Those classes go from eight 30 in the
morning to three o'clock in the afternoon.
There's a tutorial session that
goes from about three to 3 45.
Then we have our athletic program and
our students are involved in sports.
I. Our boys soccer program is
a very popular and successful
program in, in, in the fall.
Our girls' volleyball program is
growing and finding more success Boys
basketball we receive a lot of snow in,
in, in Western New York, so we have a
robust skiing and snowboarding program.
Offer lacrosse and flag
football and tennis and squash.
So the extracurriculars along with.
Theater and performing arts are all
compliment our academic program very well.
But quite honestly, I don't think many
families are drawn to go because we
have a. Successful soccer program.
Many of them love the fact that we
offer sports and we have competitive
inters, inner scholastic programs.
But it really compliments
what our focus is.
And that's in the area of academic
remediation and again, building
their confidence as readers.
But we are fortunate to have a.
Beautiful, 126 acre campus
with lush fields and hills
and a creek that runs through.
So it's a gorgeous setting.
We try to take advantage of our
outdoors as much as possible.
We do have a very popular outdoor
education program, which is an offering
that, that students can choose if they do
not want to choose an athletic team event.
I'm.
That group of, I think a dozen
students just just got back from
an incredible canoeing trip in
Algonquin Provincial Park in Canada.
We try to find.
Areas where students can find success.
And for a lot of our students
especially our new students, the
first few months are, can be bumpy.
Because typically they're coming
out of programs where they weren't
finding success, or maybe they've
been to two or three schools before
gout and they're a little skeptical.
I went to these other
schools and it didn't work.
By.
By having a program, like our
athletics program or our arts
program, it gives kids some wins.
We want every kid to have at
least a few wins every day.
And some of our new students those
first few weeks of, six days a week,
academics, sometimes there's not
that many wins right out of the gate.
Ultimately there is of course.
It's about striking the right balance.
And you said that you have some kids,
10% of your kids are day students, right?
Are they also coming six days a week?
They are, yes.
Yes.
And typically they are staying through
our dinner and required study hall.
Our day is a full day.
They, they, whether they arrive as
a day student and they're dropped
off at eight o'clock or whether they
get up at seven 30 in the dorms to
get ready for breakfast, they are.
They are structured with a consistent,
predictable schedule that really
goes from 8:00 AM 7:30 AM all the way
through our evening required study hall.
So after a full day of classes,
there's an opportunity for a tutorial.
There's then the academic, excuse me,
the athletic period, which is about.
Four o'clock to five 15.
Little bit of a window of catch your
breath dinner at six, and then mandatory
study hall six 30 to eight if you're
in the middle school, six 30 to eight
30 if you're in the upper school.
So it's a very full day.
It by design.
But your staff.
I'm thinking about like a 24 hour step.
You don't have teachers on, do you
have teachers on staff from six
to eight during that study hall,
or is that study hall very much
independent with not extra support?
No, there are the study
halls are proctored.
There are two separate study halls.
There are multiple proctors
in each study hall.
It's opportunities not just to sit down
and study independently, but to seek extra
help and support as well from teachers.
Yeah it's, it's an incredible quality
that I don't think many educators possess
is that, our teachers are going nonstop.
It's one of the strengths of the program
is because often a student who has, Mr.
Smith for math might have Mr. Smith for
soccer and might see Mr. Smith again
during tutorial, and Mr. Smith might
be, and Mrs. Smith might be his dorm.
Parents.
So the relational elements
and the connections that are.
Faculty build with our
students are really unique.
And, the boarding, the residential
environment really promotes that
increased level of connection and
relational learning, which translates
directly into increased performance
and academic and character metrics.
So it's a, again, we call it the
triple threat because so many of our.
Teachers teach they coach and they're
dorm parents and they work extremely hard.
Sounds that way.
It sounds like they have to be devoted
to that program to be employed by you.
It doesn't sound like there's much
time for them to have extracurricular
time during the school year.
It's a challenge.
I don't have the exact statistics,
but there's, we have found that if a
teacher stays with us for three years,
gets through that, again, 24 7 approach
because, the day just doesn't end at 11.
There are things that, happen between
11:00 PM and 7:00 AM someone is ill and
needs to get to the nurse, et cetera.
So if they get through
those first three years.
They tend to stay till, I think
the 10 years, about 16 or 17 years.
So it's remarkable.
But you're right, I, they
don't have a lot of free time.
Our philosophy around our academic
calendar is we have an intense
first six weeks where we start
late August, we get to October.
15th and we take a full week off,
not a long weekend, we take a full
week off, and it's intentional to
allow those teachers to disconnect.
To reenergize as well as our kids.
Our kids are working hard six days
a week for six weeks, and then
everyone disconnects for about a week.
Then we regroup and go late October
to late November, maybe four weeks
until we get that Thanksgiving break.
Take a full week off for Thanksgiving,
and then go about another three or
four weeks to our December holiday.
That's typically two weeks full.
Two weeks, and then another six
weeks to the February break.
We take a week off.
Another four weeks to Easter,
take two weeks off, and then
we graduate in late May.
So we meet our quota of 170 school days.
That's our goal, but we chop it up in
a way where there are those periods
of disconnection and restoration,
if you will, for both our faculty
and our students that need it.
And in those periods of.
Of weeks off, is the
school physically closed?
Like when my daughter went
to Penn State, they literally
kicked them out of the dorms.
They kicked them out of off campus, except
for a very small group of kids, and then
they had to be in like one dorm because
there was no way for them to go anywhere.
Is that the case there, that week
break, they are kicked off campus And
we don't to, we don't like to use
the word kicked off, but we do.
It is important to separate.
But there are always some
issues where that doesn't work.
We, again, having international
students the cost of travel, we
have an expensive tuition and you
layer in, four or five round trip.
Airfare is a year, it adds up.
So if there are students for whatever
circumstances that need to stay on
campus, that during those breaks, we
typically try to partner match them
up with one of our day students.
Or if absolutely necessary,
we will, run a, a skip very
much scaled down program here.
But typically it's.
It's, I can probably count on one
hand or less the number of students.
And we really do try to separate
as most, as po as much as possible.
'cause it's, ideally we don't
want two or three faculty to be
on campus having to use that week.
Supervising kids that couldn't get home.
That is really fantastic
that you are able to do that.
And sorry if I use kicked it off,
but that was the thing that was like
in my head as I felt like they were
under pressure to get off campus
and they were kicking them out.
I have to share a quick movie
recommendation holdovers, if
you haven't seen it, is exactly
what you're talking about.
It's about a group of six or seven
misfits in a boarding school that
have to stay over Christmas break.
So anyways.
Quick plug for a very funny movie and that
tells a lot about boarding school life.
And it was filmed at the boarding
school that I went to, so even better.
Aha.
So you have a history of
boarding schools in your life?
I do.
I attended boarding school and
two out of my three daughters
attended boarding school.
Even though I haven't worked at a boarding
school before, I, I. I can see it through
the lens of a student and as a parent.
So I think that helps in some
of the conversations I have with
prospective families who might not
really feel comfortable about sending
their child to a boarding school.
In some areas, geographic regions,
there's a stigma that don't love your
child, you don't love your child.
Is that why you're sending
them to boarding school?
And that's not the case, especially
with a specialized school like GOW.
Now let's shift gears and talk a
little bit about this reconstructive
language, because I've not
heard it called that before.
But you mentioned that Dr. Orton was
part of the foundation of the school.
Gillingham.
Where did that, yes.
Yeah.
Where did he come in?
Does he later, did he,
is he part of it too?
He came in later.
So sometimes our original academic
philosophy is called Orian after
Samuel Orton, but it was really, I.
Samuel Orton, Dr. Samuel Orton's
partnership with Peter GOW, which
led to the development of a recon
reconstructive language curricula.
And that is the cornerstone of what
we do in our work with dyslexic
thinkers and students that have
serious reading impairments.
And it's essentially a system
that allows students to memorize.
A deck of cards, the RL deck.
If you ask any GOW, alumni, they
will tell you about their RL deck.
It's something that they create.
They take ownership.
And essentially an RL deck is consists
of, I think about 115 or 120 RL
cards, and each card is a phonogram.
It might be a one letter phonogram,
it might be a four letter phonogram.
It's complimented by guide words that
relate to that phonogram, because
dyslexics are unable to make the
visual connection of looking at a
letter, two letters, three letters,
and connecting it with a sound.
That is the weakness of the dysfunctional
or the dis dyslexic mind that
was identified early on by by Dr.
Samuel Orton, so that RL
deck enforces memorization.
Of those connections between
letter combinations and sounds.
Our students receive RL class every day.
RL class is available at
tutorial RL class is available.
Or support is available
during our study hall period.
We have class sizes of
three to five students.
That's small,
right?
And even the RL classes,
I think are even smaller.
So in those sessions, students are
going through reciting those, memorizing
those listening to their other classmate
or two that are in that classroom.
And that's reinforcing
auditory comprehension.
So it's, again, it's RL
reconstructive language.
Orton-Gillingham for that matter.
It doesn't solve dyslexia.
You don't cure dyslexia.
It's something that is part of the
neurological wiring of someone who
has that has that brain wiring.
So this is an opportunity to
create a system that through
the constant memorization.
Implants, that relationship between
a letter sequence and a sound, which
allows them to read and ultimately
strengthens their reading comprehension.
How does RL bridge over to writing skills?
I.
That's a good question.
There, there are elements of
the, certainly of the spelling
piece through those RL cards
that will translate into writing.
But that's, again that's a
significant obstacle that a lot
of our students face as well.
So the, in their, perhaps classes
in reconstructive language.
And other of the humanities classes,
whether it be an English class, a
journalism class a history class,
those writing skills are reinforced
to compliment the work they're doing
in in re in reconstructive language.
So the, what they're learning over
here in the be, whether it's a v
consonant v. Consonant vow consonant.
That is reinforced.
Consonant vow.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What?
Whatever direction it goes.
That's being, those words are the similar
words are being reinforced in the other
subject matters, so you're creating
science questions that revolve there.
You're developing history that.
That supports those words.
So they're seeing them across curriculum.
Yeah.
And students are also supported by
a number of assistive technology
tools, whether that is text to
voice or voice to text work.
And that's, that can obviously help
reinforce some of those skills that
they frankly, really struggle with.
With three to five students in a class.
What is your max level of students
that you can take in a year's time?
So that's a great question.
Our, we find the most success
obviously working in small classes,
especially in the RL curriculum.
I think there are opportunities.
For classes to grow slightly
larger in those courses that again,
they're gonna need to be prepared
for at the next level in college.
I would say second to our reconstructive
language program our other signature
curricula that a lot of our
students are drawn to is robotics.
And there is, yes.
So the dyslexic mind for many.
Aligns well in the fields of science,
design, engineering, and we're fortunate
to have a robotics lab that was
funded primarily through one of our
GOW graduates who was the inventor.
Battle bots.
So you might have be familiar with the
battle bots, which is a competition
for school age children, high school
outta high school collegiate, where
teams are building weaponized robots
to battle against one another.
And it's a. Highly competitive activity.
We have a team of faculty that are
devoted to this part of our curricula.
And we have boys and girls
who are extremely motivated.
And it's prestigious to be part
of the robotics team at Go.
I think last year we had two of our
teams qualify and were invited to the.
National High School championships in
BattleBots and, these are teams from
different schools that are, operating
remote controls to basically eliminate
and defeat the competitor robots.
And, don't I think last year our
teams finished out of 60 teams that
qualified for the Nationals as an
annual tournament in Pittsburgh.
Our teams.
The two go teams finished in
fifth and 12th place, I believe.
So congratulations.
And these are against some very high
powered private boarding schools that
have, a very high reputation for academic
strength that are sending majority of
their graduates to very selective high-end
colleges, ivy league colleges, et cetera.
And our group.
Holds their own and then some.
So it's something we're very proud of.
I feel like in our admissions process
it's an element of what we offer.
Again, we're trying to get, find
kids wins and the success they
have in robotics and the and the
community, if you will, around that.
We have the whole school at assembly
watching our, live streaming.
The tournament in Pittsburgh
cheering our squad on.
That's cool, but you never did
answer how many students you have.
So our capacity Cheri with full
every room filled, et cetera,
is probably close to 1 40, 1 50.
Our enrollment is lower than that right
now, so we're making strides to, to
rebuild up to that number partly was hurt.
I think I shared earlier our
international population.
Was impacted during Covid and
we're still regrowing from that.
But we're also, we're also
intent on enrolling the students
that are mission appropriate.
The students that have a have
a learning profile where they
are gonna find success here.
There are at times students who come
to us that have a much more traditional
learning profile that could be quite
successful in mainstreaming public
schools and other private schools.
And sometimes we'd love to have
those students with us, but that
it isn't exactly the right fit.
We are a very academic,
college preparatory school.
We're not, and we're not a therapeutic
boarding school, so there are schools
that are very well suited to serve
children who have a. Therapeutic needs.
And unfortunately those are our families
that we, and students that we can't
serve because that's, we don't have
the, our expertise is in teaching kids
how to read and to be able to master
the reconstructive language curricula
and deliver that to our students.
And what does summer look like?
Great question.
So we finish in the academic school year
finishes in late May, mid to late May.
The month of June is a little
bit of time to, to reenergize
for our faculty and staff.
We just started a tradition of
doing a a June colloquium and
bringing our faculty together to.
Dig in into a a specific topic.
And this past summer we looked into
really assessing and evaluating our
our day-to-day academic schedule as
long as our as well as our academic
calendar with really through the lens
of looking at maximizing the experience
for our students as well as our faculty.
So a lot of good takeaways that will
influence some of the changes we make
in the future around our schedule.
But the heart of our summer is our
five week go summer school program.
It typically enrolls a hundred students
and probably about 75 of those students
are live here on campus for five weeks.
Another 25% or so are local.
It is a camp that has a very
intense morning of academic work.
Centered a lot around our reconstructive
language, curricula and other academic
offerings in the morning, lunch,
and then afternoon, followed by much
more traditional camp activities
and performing arts and sports and
field trips and outside activities.
So it's actually the Go Summer
school program is our biggest
feeder into our full year academic
program, I think this year.
Maybe five or six.
I think six students came from our
GAU summer school program and started
in the fall as a regular student
through the full year program.
So what you just said there was
most of those 75 students were
not year long resident residents?
No.
No.
Very few.
Once in a while, Cheri, we will.
We will, through the admissions
process, we'll identify a child
who's a good fit for G, but we would
suggest to them or sometimes require.
We really need you to do the five
week program to give you a running
start so that you're gonna be very
successful on day one at gout.
But most of our summer school program
students aren't current students,
but many of them become full-time
current students through that process.
Sometimes it's a couple years
after they do the gau summer.
School program.
But again, I think it's a terrific
balance of academic remediation,
academic support as well as the
traditional fun camp activities.
And we have a lot of students that
attend our summer program that don't
have dyslexia, that might not have a
learning difference, but they I would
suggest all learners will benefit, all
styles of learners will benefit from.
The academic work that
we offer in that program.
Yeah.
Oh yes.
Oh yes.
All students benefit from
structured literacy education.
Absolutely.
So how do we find out
about the Gow School?
I would always encourage
folks to explore our website.
It's under a little bit of a remake
right now, but it's obviously
accessible and it tells a good
story of what GOW is all about.
But of course, nothing
beats a visit to GOW.
We are having a in-person open house,
I believe on Monday, November 7th.
I don't have my calendar on me.
I think that's Veterans Day.
A lot of schools are off, so we will
be hosting an in-person there, but.
Anytime someone wants to visit, we will,
we will individualize an open house
for them that meets their schedule.
But, it's all about finding the right fit.
And so it's a conversation
we have with families.
And for a lot of students who have
been diagnosed with dyslexia and are
not finding success in their current
school, this can be an excellent option.
We are a private school.
We are tuition driven.
We offer significant financial aid.
We don't want finances to be the
reason why a. Qualified student can't
attend, go, and we do our best to
meet the difference between what they
can afford and what our tuition is.
So certainly reaching out to our
enrollment office, they're the
first line of contact and, those,
that, that contact information is
certainly available on our website.
But would always encourage families, to
find time to visit campus, walk campus.
You learn a lot by walking through
a school and sitting down and
having lunch and you get a feel
for the culture of the school.
And I would say something we haven't
discussed much but as important
to our commitment to academic
success is the work we do around
our four character based values.
Our four pillars, which is.
Honesty, hard work, respect and kindness.
And though we don't have
separate courses in those areas.
It's transmitted through
everything we do here.
Whether it's on the stage, on the
athletic field, we have assembly, all
school assembly three days a week.
I like to design lessons for the whole
school community that are centered
around those four values so that
those character elements and those
those qualities are very important.
And when we think of the Ideal GOW
graduate, it's someone who espouses
those values as they go onto there.
Next stage in life as well
as of course their growth in
academic confidence and success.
What's the website?
Www.gow.org.
It's pretty simple.
And you'll be, you'll have the opportunity
to, to navigate that and surf that.
And but stay tuned.
We've got some really cool, but.
Current family and current student
and alumni testimonials and terrific
videos that we're starting to unroll
and roll out for the for the website.
We're making a big effort
to get the word out.
We've been we've been a secret for
too long, so hopefully we can engage
some families and give them the
opportunity to learn more about cow.
Fantastic.
Thank you for your time today.
I appreciate you giving me a little
bit more understanding about what
GOW is, and I'm sure that the
listeners found it interesting.
Most people, like you said,
don't know that GOW exists.
I ran into GA at the International
Dyslexia Association Conference
last year, and then again at
the, everybody reads in Illinois.
And then out of the blue I had gotten
a an email from your assistant.
I'm like, okay, we're supposed to talk.
And so I wanna thank you for your time.
Head of School is a busy place to
be, so thank you for your time.
Ah, you're very welcome, Cheri.
I appreciate you thinking of GOW and
there's a lot of synergy between
the work that you're doing and the
work that we're doing here at GOW.
So I, I certainly look forward to.
Continuing our conversations.
Thank you.
And listeners, remember you were put here
for such a time as this go be awesome.
Go be brilliant.
Teach those struggling students with
the strategies that you learn here.
Thank you for being here.