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Seth Holehouse is a TV personality, YouTuber, podcaster, and patriot who became a household name in 2020 after his video exposing election fraud was tweeted, shared, uploaded, and pinned by President Donald Trump — reaching hundreds of millions worldwide.
Titled The Plot to Steal America, the video was created with a mission to warn Americans about the communist threat to our nation—a mission that’s been at the forefront of Seth’s life for nearly two decades.
After 10 years behind the scenes at The Epoch Times, launching his own show was the logical next step. Since its debut, Seth’s show “Man in America” has garnered 1M+ viewers on a monthly basis as his commitment to bring hope to patriots and to fight communism and socialism grows daily. His guests have included Peter Navarro, Kash Patel, Senator Wendy Rogers, General Michael Flynn, and General Robert Spalding.
He is also a regular speaker at the “ReAwaken America Tour” alongside Eric Trump, Mike Lindell, Gen. Flynn.
Alright, ladies and gentlemen. There we go. Welcome to Man in America. Today is the day of some tech issues. So I am now live officially with David Clements.
Speaker 1:So we're gonna just go ahead and jump right into this. Folks, today, the entire q and a is gonna be live on Rumble. So if you have any questions at all, please just ask in the comments, put question, and put them out there. We're gonna talk about the midterms, election fraud, the battle for the soul of America, and everything else above. So let's go ahead and bring David on here.
Speaker 1:David, it's it's good to finally have you. We got this working.
Speaker 2:Hey, Seth. I hope I wasn't the problem.
Speaker 1:You know, it's strange because what we had happen, I've, we've never had that happen before. It was, it wasn't like there was a tech issue. It almost like Zoom, who was we use for our our interviews. It was almost as if they pulled the plug on our service, which was weird, but it's working now. So anyway, I mean, I guess it just shows that we're over the target with something.
Speaker 2:Well, it's good to be with you.
Speaker 1:Thank you. So let me just go ahead before we jump directly into the q and a, because I'll let the questions start building. I mean, what are your thoughts heading into the midterms? I mean, what do you what do you think is gonna happen? Or do you think we'll take, you know, the house and the senate back?
Speaker 1:Do you think that it'll just be the house? Do you think that they're gonna going to cheat and take both or keep both? What are your thoughts?
Speaker 2:I find this time probably the most frustrating time because we have to define who we is, Right? My biggest fear from day one is if you wanted to deflate the election integrity movement of waking people up to just how nefarious these these election machines are, if I was devising the plan, I would want a red wave with a bunch of people with r's by their name that look and sound a lot like Liz Cheney, but we don't know that they're Liz Cheney yet. And so it's hard to gauge if that's what's going on. And the reason why it's frustrating is that there are a lot of people now that are just talking about the lesser of two evils, and I get that. You know?
Speaker 2:We gotta vote for this person over this person. But if you don't have, as part of your calculus and understanding how these machines can create votes out of thin air, we're really missing a foundational piece. So my hopes for November 8 is that we have people wait until election day to vote in person. And there's a reason why I'm telling people to do this is that if you are a bad actor and you believe, as I do, that there are algorithms in place to subvert these machines, you're a math problem. You're simply a math problem that needs to be solved.
Speaker 2:And the more variables you can account for before election day, the more precise you can be with those algorithms. And so what we're doing by telling people to wait till election day is that you're creating stress on the system. The cracks in the system become more readily visible. And and that helps us catch the bad actors, at least highlight, look, this is impossible. So that's where my focus is.
Speaker 2:Do I hope that a bunch of legitimate Republican MAGA, you know, America First type candidates come through and win? Yes. But but we can't, you know, buy into this notion that our election system is just a teensy big rigged. It's just a little bit rigged, and somehow we overwhelmed the system. And the last time I checked, Dominion and ES and S and heart machines are still being used, and the people that are more or less overseeing our election are still there.
Speaker 2:And those are the two major culprits in basically robbing us of our voice. And if those two haven't been changed, then yes, we can try to have a greater outpouring of poll watchers and poll workers. Is that going to help? Absolutely. Talking about voter ID, is that going to help?
Speaker 2:Absolutely. But it's just so mind numbingly frustrating that everyone that's on the cusp of election reform never wants to address these machines. And the machines optimize the environment for ballot stuffing, for mules, for algorithms. So that's my wild prediction. I don't know if it helped, but I do think that we are going to overwhelm the system.
Speaker 2:What we do with that going forward is a big question mark.
Speaker 1:So it's almost like we could potentially have a twenty sixteen presidential election where, just from my own research and understanding, they certainly stacked the deck against Trump. But it was because they had a lot more people come out on the day of election that, you know, Hillary was not supposed to lose. And so, but it was really because they, they, we shocked their system at the very last minute. So that's what you're telling folks is to, you know, again, now if you're traveling or whatever, and you have to, you know, to kind of vote early, that's one thing, but to really wait and overwhelm the polls on the day of. And I've also seen you put some information out, and this is a good place for us to start for the interview, just kind of the tips from David on how to make sure this works.
Speaker 1:But you've also told people to bring your own blue ballpoint pen. Is that correct? Because that message should
Speaker 2:also be put out It is. And this is a really another frustrating thing because what I'm telling you to do, the rhinos are telling you to do the exact opposite. Show up early. Show up early. Well, that assists dominion.
Speaker 2:And even Facebook is going out telling everyone to vote early. Probably don't want to take your advice from Facebook on what to do. And then the use of a pen, specifically a blue ballpoint pen. Why am I advising folks do this? Now I will concede right now that many election codes will tell you, you have to use whatever the election officials tell you.
Speaker 2:Of course, they're going to tell you that because Dominion is giving them those talking points. And what exactly are they telling you to use? To use a black felt pen. And the reason why they're telling you to use a black felt tip pen is that many of these tabulators have printers built into them. A lot of people didn't know that.
Speaker 2:So translation, these tabulators have the ability to fill out election ovals and have a machine fill out those ovals. Well, ink cartridges in the tabulator are black. It's black ink, number one. And if you use a felt tip pen, if you've ever used it, you know that
Speaker 1:it doesn't It doesn't put a divot, right?
Speaker 2:Yeah, it doesn't have as much of a depressive effect on the paper. And so when you want to do a post election audit, typically what happens is that the election officials will say, wait, hold the phone here. We don't believe that there's anything wrong with what's going on here. And what they'll do is they'll give you access to the ballot images first. And if you can prove that there's something wrong with the ballot images, then maybe, maybe they'll give you physical paper ballots to look at.
Speaker 2:You know, I was part of a full audit in New Mexico. We got access to the physical paper. And we were able to feel the ballots, to feel the depressive marks on the ballots. And the reason why I bring this up, and we're not speculating, is that we found actual ballots where they were filled out both by the machine and by hand. There's no legal reason why you should have that.
Speaker 2:And if we didn't have the physical touch of those papers and we were just, you know, resorting to looking at a ballot image, I'm not so sure that we would have caught that. And so this gives you a detective measure that the image, one, we can figure out if someone's filling out by hand because they're using blue ink, different than what's being put through the machines. And two, if using a ballpoint pen, you know that you're basically indenting lines to fill out that ballot. So I find it so odd, right, not odd, that the very things that we know would catch these fraudsters, they're giving us an opposite prescription. So we're not telling everyone to announce it to the world.
Speaker 2:We're not telling everyone to walk into an election center, here's my blue pen. Just keep it in your pocket. Be discreet. You should have a level of privacy when you get into the ballot box. Fill out your ballot.
Speaker 2:And when you approach the tabulator, there's supposed to be a sufficient distance where an election worker can't determine how you voted for a particular candidate. Now, folks don't need to worry about whether the tabulator will accept a ballot with blue ink. These things will gobble up anything. They'll gobble up fraudulent ballots. You can basically We've created ballots to run tests.
Speaker 2:These tabulators will scan and basically account for the ballots that are being put there, regardless of whether using blue ink or not.
Speaker 1:That's helpful to know. So I have a question. So we can jump into the Q and A portion of this. So I had a question. Actually, Kate, can you pull it back up?
Speaker 1:There's a question from Rumble about the military while she pulls that up. Basically, so it was from someone something nurse. Okay. American nurse on Rumble who says, why can't our military just monitor the elections?
Speaker 2:Well, I think they can. And I'm not going to say that they haven't. There's a lot of stuff that's certainly above my pay grade. It's not like I got a debrief from Donald Trump on what exactly Space Force was doing in 2020. '1 of the things that I have quizzically put out there is, please don't tell me that the fate of our hands or fate of our republic is in the hands of Mike And I love Mike Lindell.
Speaker 2:Love him. But a lot of us were talking about recording and monitoring of elections, and Mike Lindell was purportedly someone who had access to those recordings. And I'm sitting there going, stop. We got the commander in chief, the president of The United States, and we're gonna say that the guy that created Space Force doesn't have equal access to the very things that other patriots have come into contact with. So we we know that it's not only possible, it's likely.
Speaker 2:The question is, why didn't Trump do anything about it? Right? And and I believe that he flat out told us that the biggest enemy to freedom in this country has been the media. And that's not something he's been able to capture. Now, is he capturing that now with Truth Social and the emergence of other platforms?
Speaker 2:I think so. But I think Trump, in his wisdom, knew that if he were to seize election devices back in 2020 and had the legal authority to do so and I believe that he had the legal authority to do that what you would have seen is akin to what happened in Kenosha and Portland in the twin cities, but multiply that by 30 cities. This place would have been we would have been in a a modern day wasteland of Antifa riots, And the recipient of all the blame would have been Trump. The narrative would have been cast. And we're not making this up.
Speaker 2:Look at the false narrative that they established with January 6. They were prepared for Trump to do that. And Trump basically put his faith this is just my opinion in the American people, that he needed us to wake up. And eighteen months later, the American people have awoken. Distrust in media, big pharma, big tech is at an all time high.
Speaker 2:So I think right now, people are much more ready to do combat with the election that's before us on November 8. And by combat, I don't mean little combat. I just mean that we're we're we're willing. We're we're psychologically ready to to deal with these issues in a way that we weren't ready two years ago. Many of us just could not come to grips with the idea that our elections were as systemically corrupt as they are.
Speaker 1:Here's one more question from an American Nurse in Rumble who says, can they legally stop the elections again like they did in 2020?
Speaker 2:So I'm not sure I understand the question fully, but what what I'll say is this, is that there are many checks and balances that are built into your legislative processes, and we all but abandoned those processes in the twenty twenty election. So we had laws on the books that basically said you don't have to certify your state election results. The legislature actually has power to say, nope. And one of the things that we miss is that constitutionally, none of these elections should have been certified day one. And how can I say that?
Speaker 2:It's because the legislature set the time, place, and manner of all of our election machinery. And what happened in 2020 was under the pretext of COVID, governors were issuing executive orders. Right? And the Department of Health had a greater role in how you voted than the legislature. So, you know, can I say with utmost confidence that in virtually every state that we had an unconstitutional election?
Speaker 2:Absolutely. Absolutely. So we didn't follow the law that was on the books in a myriad of different levels. You also had the dueling electors that were set up in seven states that we were hoping to have a robust hearing on January 6. And then you had the pretext of an insurrection right when Arizona objected, right?
Speaker 2:Right when Arizona said, look, we've got a senator and a member of the House are saying that we want to explore the anomalies or fraud that our constituents saw, and we want to have a full inquiry. That was denied by virtue of the fact that people bought the narrative on J6. Mitch McConnell, within two hours, along with Kelly Laufer and everyone else, basically put a knife in the back of of the American people and president Trump.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Unfortunately. I mean, he he took it in the back, and then we're all still feeling it. And he's, of course, feeling it. So here's a question from T Shark on Telegram who says, we don't hear much about Eric Coomer from Dominion.
Speaker 1:Is there a gag order, or is there something else happened with him?
Speaker 2:That I don't know. I I do get updates frequently because I'm I'm dear friends with Joe Altman, and Joe Altman was sued by Eric Coomer and Dominion, as was Sidney Powell and Mike Lindell. So I don't know if there is a gag order that is being self imposed, because every time he puts himself out there, he basically just creates another outlet for us to show what a lying scumbag he is. I mean, this is the guy that was caught drunk driving and acted like he wasn't driving a vehicle that I think ran to the side of a building and lied through his teeth. So every time he opens his mouth, he's exposed.
Speaker 2:He's also been caught scrubbing all of his social media in the past, claiming that he wasn't a member of Antifa when basically we already had the receipts on Eric Coomer. So I think litigation probably has put a bit of a muzzle on Eric Coomer, where his attorneys are saying, look, you're not helping. Every time you open your mouth, you've got people with eagle eyes that are going to expose those lies, and it's a potential grounds for perjury. And we know that he lied through his teeth through a deposition that was conducted in the case with Joe Altman. So I imagine that's probably why he is less visible, because he's just not helping Dominion out at all.
Speaker 1:Makes sense. Here's a question from Star Manrez on Rumble, who says, with Brandon warning that the ballots may not be counted on election day, are they setting us up to steal the elections again?
Speaker 2:Yeah. They've telegraphed it. I mean, look. So look at the different messaging depending on the day of the week. One, they're preparing you to not show up in person because they've telegraphed that they're going to have paper ballot shortages.
Speaker 2:Okay. That's one thing. Why would they have paper ballot shortages? There's no reason. But on in the same breath as them telling you that, they've already been caught sending out, like in Pennsylvania, hundreds of thousands of get it get this, mail in ballots that are paper.
Speaker 2:So do you have a shortage, or are you fine with sending out hundreds of thousands of illegal ballots? And it was something similar in Colorado. It wasn't hundreds of thousands, but at least 30,000 paper ballots were sent out. So, you know, what's your story if you're part of the communist regime? Is there a paper shortage or not?
Speaker 2:Or does it only apply when you're you're sending out, you know, mail in ballots that are gonna help rig the system even further? So, I mean, look just look at the messaging. The other thing that they're doing is by preparing you for this idea that, you know, you're not gonna get election night results. First, pump the brakes. When when did this phenomena start?
Speaker 2:We used to get election night results on election night. In fact, if you go back to Abraham Lincoln's election, you know, we're talking about, like, around 1860. They got election night results back then before you had computers when you're using crude devices where people are basically tapping a button, sending a code, by 10:00 at night, America had the technology in place to get all of the results. I think the last state that he was waiting on was New York, and they got it by 10:10 o'clock PM. And you're telling me in 2022, we can't figure out to have election night results that are more accurate.
Speaker 2:So what are they doing? They're basically laying the architecture to allow for massive mail in ballots to continue to show up. And as long as they can get the paper trail to match what's going on in the machines, that helps them accomplish that. And this is what we saw in in 2020 in Arizona, where for ten days after the election, Bouchard is showing up. They need more.
Speaker 2:So they're gonna close the doors. They're gonna they're gonna do whatever they can to to basically reconcile what's going on in the machines with an influx of ballots that are most likely illegal. And it's the same playbook. So, yes, we expect them. It's just the question is, do we have the wherewithal to spot it now?
Speaker 2:And I think we do. We didn't have the wherewithal to quite understand why that narrative was being pushed back by Bernie Sanders in 2020. He did the same thing. He went on Jimmy Fallon's show eleven days before the election and said, hey, don't be surprised at 10:00 at night when everything shuts down. It's like, how in the world did you know that things were going to shut down at 10:00 at night?
Speaker 2:Right? And then he actually called out key states where we were gonna expect to see a massive influx of mail in ballots. He called Michigan and Wisconsin and Pennsylvania by name. Well, how did he know that? So it's the same playbook.
Speaker 2:They're projecting this to kind of give you a plausible outlet for something that really there's no excuse for.
Speaker 1:Here's just a question from me personally, and then I'll get back to the guest questions. Is if you know, look, we went through 2020. We went through all the court systems, we went through all the different audits, through the cyber symposium. We've been through like everything and we still haven't been able to fix 2020. Yet simultaneously, we've seen our country just completely going down the crapper to be more polite with my language.
Speaker 1:And we're seeing inflation, know, gas prices, like, you know, sending billions over to Ukraine. I mean, money laundering at the government. It's it's endless amount of corruption and this negligence that's happening in our country. And I think that for a lot of people, because I think similar to you, I know you're out on the ground talking to people. And I'm also, you know, in my own way, talking to a lot of these, the common Americans.
Speaker 1:And what I, the feeling that I get from people is that they're on their last amount, like their last straw. People have been pushed to the tipping point. And they're they're trying to come out and fix 2020. They're trying to make sure we can secure the midterms. If they steal the midterm elections, say they, you know, there's burst water pipes and dead voters and, you know, Sharpie pen problems, whatever, you know, happens.
Speaker 1:And we see, okay, they've done it again. How, like, how do we act? I mean, do we just look towards 2024? I mean, do we, I mean, like, if the system is so broken like that, what do we even do?
Speaker 2:Oh, well, put it this way. I get people's fatigue because I didn't sign up for this. And I've been working on this sixteen to eighteen hours a day since 11/03/2020. No days off. We had to become all the things in which our institutions failed us.
Speaker 2:So I used to be an investigator. I used to be a prosecutor. I used those skills. And I used those skills in high profile murder cases, in prosecutions and drug trafficking organizations. But it wasn't my background, necessarily that led me to get into this fight.
Speaker 2:It's just that I've got a commitment to truth, and I've got a clear vision for right and wrong. And so to basically summarize every objection or heartache that we're all experiencing as to what's wrong in our country. It's that we are seeing unbridled corruption and lawlessness, and many people just could not believe that our country was capable of being this corrupt. And that's the reality. And then the other question I get more than anything else is, well, haven't we fixed these problems?
Speaker 2:And the answer is a lack of courage. It comes down to a lack of courage. So, I mean, no matter how you want to slice it up, why did this happen? Corruption. Why haven't we fixed it?
Speaker 2:Lack of courage. And so it's not going to get any better by virtue of us acting like there isn't corruption. And I think what's going on right now with a lot of the lesser of two evils arguments is everyone is going back to the insanity of the talking points that we were given by our benevolent masters for the past thirty years. And we find ourselves kind of like in an automatic role play of a vote for this person's a vote for this person. I'm sitting there trying to shake people going, do you not get do you not get that these machines are enslavement devices?
Speaker 2:And if we don't solve that problem, good luck. Go forward with your role play. Go ahead and do that and waste everyone's time. But when I prosecuted cases, I had to often be in positions where I had to give people very, very sober, sober advice that they didn't want to hear about whether or not we were going to win a case. I've had to be on phone calls where people were notified that a loved one was murdered and had their head decapitated.
Speaker 2:So I guess I was I was braced to give people bad news. I don't enjoy telling people that, you know, the corruption is as bad as it is. But my my response to to that question, Seth, would be people need to grow up. They need to man up. Like, this is the world in which we live, and we can't be cynical, and we can't be hopeless because we know what will come of that.
Speaker 2:If we're hopeless and and we don't believe, well, then nothing's gonna happen. And so I think we have to model a level of courage and transform what has become a bumper sticker, which is We the People. We the People and the Constitution and all that stuff has become a bumper sticker where we talk a lot of good talk. But when it comes to showing up and executing self governance and becoming, you know, the next press, I mean, you've become, Seth, in many respects, a version of the American press that we desperately need. We need investigators.
Speaker 2:We need people to cover what's going on at election locations with their cell phones and covering because the press won't. We need to force sheriffs to come into this process by, you know, in those scenarios where we show up and we find out that the machine has cast a vote for us. You don't just go home after someone gives you a provisional ballot. You don't go home. You call the sheriff.
Speaker 2:You're the victim of identity theft. You're the victim of fraud. And the perpetrator of that fraud happens to have their name on the outside of that tabulator. Dominion, ES and S. These are legal corporate persons that can be prosecuted.
Speaker 2:So what we have to do is we have to sharpen everyone's resolve and give them the tools on basically shining a spotlight everywhere until the silence is just deafening, because they're trying to freeze you out. They're trying to freeze me out of trying to save this country. And we're just not going to let it go without a fight. So much of the stuff that I talk about, they might be prescriptions that you can do. But really, it comes down to courage.
Speaker 2:If you don't have it, you know, we're in trouble.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's true. I agree with you that we are seeing more and more of it, which is encouraging. Here's a question from Pam and Essay on Rumble who says, there's cheating in San Antonio, Texas. They're paying people to fill out ballots and planning to shut down voting on November 8 with the excuses of fire drills and active shooter drills. How do we stop this?
Speaker 2:Yeah. You have to become the citizen press. Right? So one of the things that we know the enemy did was they created the counter strategy of telling everyone you're going to have paper ballot shortages. Why did they do that?
Speaker 2:They did that because Carrie Lake was successful in the primary. She basically did not do what they did in 2020. In 2020, Maricopa County, out of 2,100,000 votes cast, 1,600,000 were cast early. That gave the enemy all the metrics and analytics they needed to have their mules go to particular drop boxes in particular places for a particular candidate. It also helped them streamline and refine the algorithms they were going use in the machines.
Speaker 2:So what do they do? Now they're telling everyone, you can show up on election day, but you're gonna run into a problem where you might have a paper ballot to vote on. Well, isn't that convenient? So what are we doing in response to that counter strategy? Because everyone's got a contingency plan.
Speaker 2:Is, well, have you gotten in front of your local election worker basically saying, do you have a response for this? Tell me what the paper count is for my precinct, because when I show up on election day, we better have sufficient paper ballots. That's engagement, again, of We the People showing up and taking ownership of the process. So if you're getting rumors of fire drills, document. Confront your local election workers about the prospect of what you're hearing and make sure that they know that you're putting them on notice.
Speaker 2:Come on November 8, if you don't have a plan after I gave you notice of this a week out, it's not gonna be pretty. We're gonna you know? So it's one of those things where we have to document, document, document, and use these smartphones. These are basically virtual offices where we're policing our election officials, and we have to be we have to become better at doing that.
Speaker 1:That's a good I mean, really, it fundamentally comes back to us. It just falls back on our shoulders. Yeah. I told you I'd have some some maybe difficult questions for you. So here's one from Jill J.
Speaker 1:On Rumble, who says, why did you block audits in swing states where the people had served notices and affidavits to legislators to demand a full forensic audit modeling Arizona?
Speaker 2:Yeah. That's a that's a curious question. And and here's the deal. Either either I'm as powerful as those folks seem to suggest. I want I just want us pause and think about that.
Speaker 2:That this person's ascribing to me so much power that I can bring an audit to its knees. How absurd to suggest that. I can tell you where the genesis of that false narrative started. It was with people that basically want to claim that these notices and affidavits were basically a cure all for for every single election. Well, if we could just serve people with notices and affidavits, then then we're gonna solve the world's problems.
Speaker 2:And I would ask a very reasonable question. What happens if your notice and affidavit is ignored? What's the mechanism of force? And you'll never get a straight answer from anyone. What do you do?
Speaker 2:Is we, the people, gonna round up someone that that ignores your notice and affidavit, and they're gonna drag you to the farmer's market for for the people's justice? And if we can't get a straight answer on that, then don't tell me that the notice and affidavit is foolproof. Because what I can tell you is where we had a full audit was here in in Otero County. We had partial audits in another seven counties. That didn't come about through a notice and affidavit strategy.
Speaker 2:It came about from people saying, look, we're going to show up in person and hold these people accountable through the processes that are that are there. So, you know, the the pushback on this this myth that somehow I shut down audits in other states. Number one, if you ask them what states, they can't give them to you. If you ask for a source who claims that somehow the weight of my opinion mattered so much in a different state to shut down an audit, They'll never have a source. I think the genesis of this was that you had certain people that were grifting.
Speaker 2:Yes. Grifting. And they and these are people that wanna copyright and trademark terms like full forensic audit, and they wanted to monetize this. They wanted this to be a business They go out there and make sure that they could make money off of auditing. Well, the reason why I can say, you know, with a straight face that that's bold is that our audit in Otero County cost all of $10,000.
Speaker 2:Now contrast that with Maricopa County, which was a 10 to $11,000,000 audit. A lot of people made a lot of money. We did everything we did in New Mexico for free. My wife and I didn't charge a dime. We got experts like Jeff Lenberg, a nation state vulnerability expert.
Speaker 2:His commitment was free. We had Doctor. Dougherty, Harvard graduate, the guy that basically educated us all on the law of large numbers, for free. We had Draza Smith working for free. So, you know, it's it's projection at its worst where I'm accused of all these things when we actually brought a county to its knees and got a vote to get rid of Dominion, got a vote to get rid of drop boxes, got a vote to sue the secretary of state.
Speaker 2:And all these other places haven't accomplished that with notices and affidavits. So I'm just calling crap on that. It's it's a talking point that was born out of people that wanted to make money on audits. And the first time that rumor reared its ugly head was when people were getting mad at people like doctor Frank. He was saying, look.
Speaker 2:If you're not getting politicians to help you do a full forensic audit, don't let that stop you from canvassing. Canvas. Go door to door. You don't have to get anyone's approval to do that. And he was right, because a canvas is part of an audit.
Speaker 2:So why wait? The people that attacked Doctor. Frank right off the bat were these people that were getting paid to do full forensic audits. And they had this myth that Doctor. Frank, by virtue of saying, Hey, let's go Canvas, that somehow that shut down five audits in five states.
Speaker 2:He was accused of that. That's garbage. Doctor. Frank is a patriot that has done amazing work. Well, as soon as I started saying, you know, there's wisdom to what Doctor.
Speaker 2:Frank said months after, I started saying, yeah, we need to get busy canvassing. And the reason why I said that was because we finally got the Maricopa audit report in September, I think eighth, September eighth of last year, and it didn't deliver the goods. A lot of promises were made. A lot of people were just sitting there scratching their head like, what the hell happened? And what happened was the clock was running out of time.
Speaker 2:So instead of people doing any work in their backyards, everyone was hoping that Maricopa would be the domino, myself included, that would fall, and we could all say, let's do what Maricopa did, and now we can decertify. Well, what was the problem with Maricopa? The audit team was afraid to use the word fraud in the report. If you're afraid to even use the word fraud, how in the world are you gonna to position yourself to advocate for decertification? They didn't have the proper metrics in place to demand something, which should have been absolute decertification in that county.
Speaker 2:And so what we were telling people on the lines as people that were actually in the fight going around traveling was, let's not make the same mistake. We can't wait another nine, ten months to get a result like we did in Maricopa. So start canvassing. So as soon as I started joining Doctor. Frank and his chorus of let's get canvassing operations going now, Don't wait for an official, an election official.
Speaker 2:That same rumor was put out there that that I now had subverted five audits. Bull. Getting an audit is is like grabbing someone by the throat and dragging them and and and putting a gun to their head. It's it's that it it takes that much effort. And I know that because our audit in in New Mexico left with one of our commissioners being removed from office.
Speaker 2:So we know for a fact what the toll is, what we're asking these people to do. But don't for a second don't for a second think that because I have an opinion on canvassing that some election official in some state all of a sudden said, look, we were going to do it, but Professor Clements said something about canvassing. Garbage. Garbage.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Mean, it does make sense just from the perspective of you know, where's all your political ties? You know, where's all the power that you would have to do that? Yeah. It's true.
Speaker 2:I haven't I didn't get paid a dime. I don't take money from any contributors. I've basically done my work for free. I was allocated a generous amount of money after I got fired for refusing the jab. So the money that I received, which everyone wants to accuse me of of grifting, had nothing to do with elections whatsoever.
Speaker 2:It had everything to do with me taking a stand at New Mexico State University and getting fired. And what did I do with that? I didn't pay off a mortgage and basically go away and live the good life. I basically said out loud, I'm gonna use all this money and dedicate it to fixing 2020, which is what I've done. So I could advance cost.
Speaker 2:I could never I never charge speaking fees. I advise, you know, J six defendants on a regular basis. Don't charge them a penny. I was on two phone calls this morning with a lawsuit in Pennsylvania. Another person that's at a logic and accuracy test in South Carolina.
Speaker 2:I don't charge a cent for any of this. So it's the exact opposite of of of these really weak, pathetic accusations. And I guess that's that's what, you know, bothers so many of these folks is if they could prove it, well, I wanna see the receipts. And I ask for it all the time. It's the same talking points.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Which it's easy with an online crowd and echo chambers, these talking points just to get repeated. And it's the Chinese whispers, the telephone game where it goes and keeps on going. And also think too, and I have to empathize with people because I think that folks are just, as I mentioned before, we're at the end, we're at the wit's end, we've lost hope. And we've had all these false hopes.
Speaker 1:Like I remember, like you mentioned, I was also thinking, gosh, you know, Maricopa is the first big domino. And once we get Maricopa but I was also thinking too, it's like, well, Maricopa has taken this many months. How are we going to then replicate this in all these other states if this the first one's taken this? So yeah, it's not it's not easy. But here here's a question.
Speaker 1:This is a little bit different of a topic. This is from Nafasti on Rumble who says, can you please tell us more about where we are with TrueTheVote and what they uncovered regarding KONIC and its ties to China?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm not the authority on on the conic stuff. I, like many, I've followed the work of Nick Meseder. I think Nick Meseder, for folks that really want to come up to speed, has probably done the best job covering. And apparently, he's got a good relationship with Greg Phillips and those folks, so he's getting a lot of information. My understanding is that from day one, I think going back all the way to 2021 early, that there was information that came into the possession of the Phillips Group, where there was a level of Chinese infiltration in our voter suite of products.
Speaker 2:And Conic plays a large role in that. I think at the time, you could say that Greg and Catherine were misguided in trusting the FBI, but none of us knew how absolutely repugnant the FBI is on on so many levels. And so they established a, basically, a CI level of clearance to work with the FBI. And I think that was more Greg than Katherine, to be clear, from what I've heard. And they were working with the FBI to give them this information.
Speaker 2:Well, what is the FBI doing? Like with J6 and everything else, they're basically taking anything that threatens the status quo, and they're burying it. So they were basically luring in through the vote to get the information that they had, to neutralize it, to make sure that it never saw the light of day. And by the time that Greg Phillips and Catherine became wiser that, you know, you had the emergence of the 2,000 mules documentary. A lot of things were coming out in the realm of the court of public opinion, and that assisted them.
Speaker 2:If they didn't have that documentary, if they didn't have what happened in Yuma, where you had the whistleblower, they would have been buried. And so it's one of those things where, you know, a lot of people are are casting a lot of doubt on on them. And my response to that is, are we not all beneficiaries of 2,000 needles? Did that not make a huge impact on our confidence level in 2020? And last time I checked, if you're someone, you know, someone that's deep state, are the deep state people the one that ones that have to go to jail?
Speaker 2:I mean, you've got people that are rotting in a jail cell right now. So if you wanna, like, understand my way of evaluating patriots in this movement, the ones that are going broke, the ones that that are getting threatened, the ones that are getting their phone seized, the ones that are going to jail, you know, you get a pass from me. That's how you get a pass from me is the Steve Bannons that have to report themselves in and get turn themselves in. The Peter Navaros that get arrested in an airport when they said, hey, I'm here. I'll cooperate.
Speaker 2:What did they do? They embarrassed them. It's Eastmans, the professor Eastmans of the world that, on a bogus warrant, get their phone taken from them. Same thing with Doctor.
Speaker 1:With FBI showing up, raiding.
Speaker 2:FBI showing up. Right. So so it's like, look. Show me the perks of of everyone being deep state. Like, if you're gonna be ruined.
Speaker 2:You know, I get the same accusations too because I know I'm over the target. You know? It's like, you think I get I get some perks. I get some money. I get positive coverage from the Washington Post that devoted an entire hit piece that was, like, an obituary that was printed in in papers across the country.
Speaker 2:I didn't come out looking like anything but an unhinged crazy person. So, like, exactly, like, what are the perks of being deep state if everything that we recognize as being part of the deep state apparatus comes after people like Greg and Catherine and myself and Michael and Dale? It's like, you can't have it both ways. Right?
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's a good point. Well, I'm thankful that I haven't had the FBI kicking my door down. But if they do, I'll give you a call and maybe you can represent me. Let's just hope that never happens. They're probably watching right now for all we know.
Speaker 2:It won't help you. I'm I'm, you know, again, I'm so deep state that I've had five complaints filed against my law license to to strip me of of the way that I put food on the table. And I'm awaiting a verdict on the fifth investigation that that was opened up. So I just have to laugh about a lot of these accusations. And so what I'll tell you right now is if you had to pull me, I'm forever thankful of the contributions of Greg Phillips, Catherine Engelbrecht, and what they brought to light.
Speaker 2:It made my job infinitely more easy when I went from state to state to talk about the the issues of of the vulnerabilities in our election system because what they were talking about was really half of the puzzle. The other half was what's going on in the machines. Yeah. See, we we know that the poll books that are out there, these e poll pads, have all of the metrics that you need that are being transmitted via Internet between a county office and to the secretary of state. All the data that you need to basically have a plan to say, hey, Mule, we need you to show up at that precinct, at that drop box with a ballot for that candidate.
Speaker 2:Where did that information come from? It comes from the poll box. So when I watched 2,000 mules, I'm sitting there going, this is a this is a manifestation or an application of using the data in machines to subvert our elections.
Speaker 1:Oh, I see.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I saw the
Speaker 1:machine data to like, they're correlating what the machines see is needed. And that's how they're actually orchestrating the the mules and the drops is to, so it's all, it's not like there's the mules team, and there's the dominion team, and they're on separate teams kind of going towards the same goal. They're intricately connected.
Speaker 2:They are. And there's different ways for them to get information. So, you know, one of the ways that we corroborated that claim, and I'm not just making it up, is that we got the equivalent of a FOIA request between a candidate that was running for office in Santa Fe, New Mexico. Name's Kathleen Clark. And she she was getting her own update of of poll book data on election day on 2020.
Speaker 2:Now why in the world would a candidate on the ballot, running for clerk no less, be getting her own poll book data, basically telling you who has shown up and who hasn't? Right? Because when you show up to get your ballot, what do you do? You're checking in with someone that has a poll book. And if you've got a ledger of who's shown up, you now have another list of who hasn't shown up.
Speaker 2:Meaning, now you have exactly who you you have a you have a list of people you can cast votes for that didn't show up to vote. So the likelihood of someone actually confronting you about, you know, fraudulent practices decreases because people aren't wiser for the fact that that someone has cast a vote in their name. So we saw that, and it was it was it was public data that she got throughout the day. And at, I wanna say, at 03:00 in the afternoon, we we mapped out the digital record. After 70% of election day ballots were accounted for in Santa Fe County, for twelve minutes, it went to zero.
Speaker 2:Zero, meaning all of the election votes were zeroed out. And twelve minutes later, in impossible fashion, they were reconstructed in the digital record. And in other counties, we saw 20% of vote gains, 20% happen in that same twelve minutes. Now, why do I tell you this? Because Catharine Clark wasn't just a candidate running for office.
Speaker 2:She was also a Democrat official with the state party, and she was also a Democrat operative that ran other people's campaigns throughout the state of New Mexico. She ran action plans. So with that poll book data, she wasn't just getting it for Santa Fe, she was getting it throughout the entire state. She could use that data and now inform people on where they needed to go to make sure that you could change outcomes. So that's corroborating evidence with what we know about 2,000 mules and the stuff that we've learned.
Speaker 2:And the other thing that people don't realize is that, you know, a lot of discussion is being placed on Internet connectability of these devices. One of the big breakthroughs that we put out there with our audit was that major subversion point is on the tabulators themselves through custom election files that are housed in the tabulators. And for folks that don't know what a tabulator is, it looks a lot like a big trash can. That's what you're feeding your ballot through. Well, if you can subvert the election file that's placed on each of those tabulators, you can have a trigger in that file that converts the tabulator from an election device to a selection device.
Speaker 2:And you don't need to have Internet connectability because each of your tabulators is basically expecting a different ballot. Right? Because in each precinct, you're gonna have a different tabulator. And your school board race in one precinct is gonna be different than a school board race in another precinct. So once you if you can subvert the software design on those election files, you can basically put the fate of your elections in the hands of two or three people upstream, and everyone downstream would have no knowledge whatsoever of what happened.
Speaker 2:In fact, when you aggregate and take the results from each of those tabulators and upload them into your your election management system, the subversion's already taken place. So whether or not we're talking about mules, Internet connectability, no Internet connectability, these machines are so porous. They are designed to be exploited at many different places. And so my my viewpoint is that you can subvert the machines and have everything that you need to to subvert your elections housed within the machines themselves. And when you don't have the requisite level of precision on setting your algorithms, you have kind of this breaking case of emergency ability to remotely access the machines and make adjustments.
Speaker 2:And that's what we saw on election night at 10:00 in 2020.
Speaker 1:Paused everything and they recalculated the algorithms. Right?
Speaker 2:Yep. The algorithms that were already set on these election files were not precisely there wasn't enough precision because everyone overwhelmed the algorithms that were there. So what do you do then? You send everyone home. You've got to reboot.
Speaker 2:You have remote access capability. And that's that's why we're telling people you need to do the same thing again in 2022, is you have to show up in person on election day. Right now, we we understand the input output system front to back. And what took us six months to kinda figure out post 2020, we're finding out within hours. We we know exactly how these people are doing this.
Speaker 1:Here's a you mentioned canvassing a few times, and there's two different comments on this I wanna bring up. One is Laura Joe for truth on Rise who says, nearly half the homes I canvassed have problems. And then Violet over on Rumble who says, what benefit did the canvassing produced, and where are the canvassing results?
Speaker 2:Okay. So I can't speak for everyone's canvassing operation, but we did a full commissioned canvas in Otero County. And we canvassed 20% of the entire county. It's a 6,000 square mile county. It's huge.
Speaker 2:So we canvassed thousands and thousands of homes. And much like what your commenters are reporting, we found a 41% discrepancy rate between what we heard at the door when comparing it to the official voter records. 41%.
Speaker 1:Gosh.
Speaker 2:And just so people know, Otero County is a red county. We picked it for a reason. A lot of people think that this is a partisan issue. One, I'm not even a registered Republican. Okay.
Speaker 2:Two, if if if I'm gonna go out there and say that this is a machine driven cheat and I'm saying that it's happening more or less in every county and every state, we put our money where our mouth was. We picked a county that was all red. Trump won. Okay. So if we're wrong about the machines, then you would expect to not find anything wrong.
Speaker 2:And the only people that would be upset with us disturbing the apple cart would be Republicans. Well, it was in Otero County that we found out that you had 41% of it an error rate. And the way that it was broken down is just alarming. You had 30% were no longer living at the address post 2020. So eighteen months later, when we did the canvas, we're being told that we had a 30% transient rate, or 30% of the people that lived in Notera moved.
Speaker 2:Well, they didn't, but they were still on the rolls. So were they real voters? We don't know. But the fact of matter is they shouldn't have been on the voter rolls. They were there.
Speaker 2:And then if you break down the other bits of the pie, 2% of the people that we canvassed were alerted to the fact that their vote was dropped. So it would it would go a lot like this, Seth. I knock on your door. I say, hey, Seth. My name is Dave.
Speaker 2:I'm a volunteer just trying to look at the accuracy of your voter rolls in the county that you live. Did you vote in 2020? You say yes. I look at the voter rolls. 2% of the people that we talked to, we'd say, according to the official voter roll, no, you didn't.
Speaker 1:Wow.
Speaker 2:That's a huge number. The next question is sometimes we'd have to ask about someone else that's registered to your address. So I'd say, Seth, according to the official voter record, there's a Juan Martinez that's registered to vote from your home. Seth, can I talk with Juan Martinez? And you would likely tell me because I know you well enough to know that Juan Martinez doesn't live with you to say, who's Juan?
Speaker 2:So why do I bring this up? I I have I have to have a further discussion through the Canvas results and saying, well, according to the official rules, not only did Juan cast a vote, but he cast a vote being registered from your address, Seth. That accounted for 4% of the addresses that we canvassed. So now we're looking at 6% of the total record. And then we saw another phenomenon where the the method of how you voted was incorrectly recorded.
Speaker 2:So a lot of smart Republicans voted in person. Well, when we checked the official voter role, we'd find out that the method that was recorded there was that you voted by mail. So you saw an oscillation of people's vote that was not correct. So now we're looking at 11% of the canvas that we can say with high confidence was a digital manipulation. And why can we say that with confidence?
Speaker 2:That percentage breakdown that I shared with you never changed. So the first weekend that we went and canvassed, that was the breakdown. You go out a second weekend, the percentage didn't change. Third, fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh, eighth weekend, that shows us it's a percent control cheat. And we went and compared our canvassing results with our counterparts in Texas, Hays County.
Speaker 2:Guess what? Red County. Same exact canvassing results as Otero County, New Mexico. They were they were basically the same. Now, if you go to Democrat counties like Allegheny County, Pennsylvania, the discrepancy rate's over 70%.
Speaker 1:Seventy %.
Speaker 2:Yes. And that that was born of the work of Audit the Vote PA and the work of Tony Shoup. Amazing groups. So, like, the cleanest places that you'd think you'd find are absolutely disgusting. So we put that out there.
Speaker 2:That was one of the ways that we got the vote to get rid of Dominion in Otero County is by giving folks our canvassing results. And we've done partial canvases in other places. But quick
Speaker 1:Sorry. So in your county, you actually got your county to stop using Dominion?
Speaker 2:Well, we got the vote. So the the result the the problem with that is once we got the vote, to show you how how freaked out these people are, they got a far left judge in Santa Fe County, once again, which is super liberal, that basically initiated or allowed a bogus lawsuit to remove Coy Griffin from office. Coy was one of the commissioners that voted in favor of our audit and voted in favor of all these things. And so what did they do? They they basically said because he was present on January 6, didn't go into the Capitol Building, but because he was present, that he is, quote unquote, an insurrectionist.
Speaker 2:Now just to highlight how absolutely corrupt this is, Coy was charged by federal authorities for two misdemeanor crimes, criminal trespass and disorderly conduct. And he was charged even though he didn't go in the Capitol Building. He actually got on a megaphone, said a prayer and the Pledge of Allegiance.
Speaker 1:That's criminal. That's not acceptable.
Speaker 2:Yep. But as a public official, he was put in solitary confinement and was imprisoned for over three weeks. So he comes out. The far left tries to get rid of him. They do a recall election.
Speaker 2:Well, Otero County loves him, so he survives the recall election. And then he helps concerned citizens like myself allow us to do the canvassed, allows us to do the audit, he was one of three votes. Well, as soon as we kept going out there and revealing all this insane information, like dominion going in and wiping the entire project file from 2020. We reported that as well. Congress and everyone else was getting freaked out.
Speaker 2:And they couldn't they could not knock any of the the methods of of our audit. We had our stuff together. And so what happened is a couple things. Number one, a Democrat operative basically did a selectively edited encounter where you can't hear any of our canvassers talk, can't see them. But she does a TikTok video saying, oh, I was so intimidated by these grandmothers out there asking these benign questions.
Speaker 2:And based on that edited TikTok video, the Daily Beast wrote an article. And based on the Daily Beast article, all based on a fabricated encounter that didn't happen, Congress basically had their oversight committee get involved in our little audit in New Mexico to shut us down. They started issuing subpoenas, trying to get all contact communications between our contractors and auditors. Well, we didn't go away. We lost our prime contractor, who was Doctor.
Speaker 2:Shiva initially, because the law firm being deployed was just outrageous. So we survived it. We retooled and were able to complete the audit. But it just shows you how desperate these people were to shutting us down. Well, when we came back and actually had an audit report with conclusive findings, we highlighted at least 17 different violations of our election code and found out that our machines weren't certified under the law, that certifications lapsed, that the machines themselves or continued use was illegal under our election code.
Speaker 2:We brought that out. Well, it was with that presentation and those findings that we secured the vote to get rid of Dominion, the drop boxes. And it was a wonderful moment that was celebrated. The next day, the secretary of state filed a lawsuit with the Supreme Court of New Mexico, all comprised of Marxist progressives. And the Supreme Court says, thou shalt certify results that happened in the primary election of this year, or we will refer this to the attorney general for criminal prosecution.
Speaker 2:So under threat of criminal prosecution, one of the commissioners changed his vote. He's like, I don't want to get arrested over this. His name is Gerald Matherley. He's a coward. But he changed his vote.
Speaker 2:So now we're at instead of three o, two one. Well, that's not good enough because we still have the majority to go forward and get rid of Dominion. So what do they do next? You have this fabricated lawsuit from a far left judge that has proceedings in place to remove a commissioner from a different county. For what?
Speaker 2:Insurrection. When the FBI told everyone that there is no legal basis for insurrection number one. And at Coy's trial, they couldn't even find a conviction for disorderly conduct, a misdemeanor charge. So think on that. The DOJ prosecutors could not get a conviction on misdemeanor disorderly conduct, but a Santa Fe Judge will entertain a lawsuit and find that a guy that didn't go in, that prayed, was legally declared to be an interactionist, was removed.
Speaker 2:So now we've got a one to one vote. Basically, we don't have the majority. But this is this was the response. And it wasn't just Coy. There's another guy in Alaska they're doing the same thing to.
Speaker 2:So they're trying to find out anyone they can. And the question is is, are we gonna put up with it? So we are hanging on by a thread in Otero County with the stuff that we did. Torrance County was another place that we did a partial audit, and that was the place where we just broke the story that there was a 25% discrepancy rate between the tabulator Dominion tabulator count with the hand recount. And we advise that from behind the scenes.
Speaker 2:So in every single county in New Mexico, we basically have the polls on corruption here. But it's it's like a bunch of election officials that are so invested in covering their tracks instead of just helping us that people's lives are being ruined. Corey Griffin's included. He's appealed that decision. So there's a long court fight ahead of them.
Speaker 2:But the reason why I feel completely fine with this battle is that we are are waging this battle on the paradigm of public trust, and we're dominating. We're dominating the court of public opinion. So either you're going to give us what we want and prove our assertions right because the more information we have from you, we're just going to keep showing you how the machines are subverting our elections. Great. That gives us a basis to to say, let's get rid of these machines.
Speaker 2:Or conversely, be corrupt. Hold on to all your information. Don't give it to us because you're not gonna restore public trust that way either, which gives us the same request. Get rid of these machines. There's no reason why we can't do hand tabulation in these elections, especially in small precincts.
Speaker 2:So that's a very long winded answer, but I just want to highlight to you just how corrupt and it kind of goes back to that question from the person before about me subverting audits. If people had any idea how much we have fought for every scrap, for every single way to analyze the paper, analyze the machines, they would understand that there's no place for that. Because if anyone for anyone that you wanna talk about in this movement, we port it on the line. I mean, my wife, I see her, you know, doing data analysis at the dinner table from 06:00 in the morning till 10:00 at night. We're running through cast vote records.
Speaker 2:It's people just need to realize that this is a big boy game. And we stepped up to the plate, and we delivered, and we're still fighting for the voices of of New Mexicans and other people across the country.
Speaker 1:It's just incredible to realize how deep the corruption goes. I mean, and we witnessed that. Mean, look, after after the election, we saw it go up the Supreme Court get tossed out. We saw the entire system is just rotting. And then what's also kind of crazy is that we're fighting so hard just to get these politicians in office and whether they actually do the right thing in office, that's a whole other story.
Speaker 1:And this is just to get them in the office. And, you know, armed resistance on rise asks a really good question, who says, if we can't even get any politicians to stand up against the vaxx genocide, why should we think there are any political solutions left?
Speaker 2:Well, you know, again, corruption, lack of courage to stock answers. This has been the message that I've gone from state to state. At this point, I've hit anywhere from 43 to 45 states in person over the past calendar year, telling people you have to get in front of local administrators of your local elections and those that certify your post election results locally. You have to shrink the audience size. You can't sit there and think, we're going to persuade the entire legislature.
Speaker 2:We're going to persuade Congress. Or we're going to persuade a black robed judge that has no accountability. He does not have to worry about anything you think because he's not someone that's going to be on the ballot. And so what we're trying to do is train people to focus on the people that make consequential decisions in your backyard. And usually that's a three to five member council.
Speaker 2:It's a three to five member, you know, tribunal. And you can leverage your numbers by showing up in front of them and saying, look, we're not we're just we want something other than these machines that you're using. So that's that's the message that we're putting out there because it empowers you to not wait for someone else to save you. Everyone wants that law, that that legal decision, or they want notice and affidavits to be the savior. And I'm sitting there going, no.
Speaker 2:Get in the ring. Show up show up and stand up before the people that are gonna certify these election results and saying, do you understand what certification means? So say that this is trustworthy. And you don't get to punt and say that, Well, it's the legislature's fault or it's the judge's fault. No, no, no.
Speaker 2:You're signing off on certification forms locally, and we're we're putting you on notice that you you you can't do that. You need to withhold certification.
Speaker 1:Yeah. It's I mean, it just it it goes it's like, I've got a lot of faith in our future. I really do. Like, I genuinely do. I'm not a guy that's like, oh, we're all screwed, though.
Speaker 1:I prepare like we might be. You know I mean? That's just how I I approach things. But, you know, when you see the depth of this, it's kinda like when Trump got in in 2016. And everyone's like, great.
Speaker 1:Trump's kinda drained the swamp. And I think for a lot of people, there I'm not gonna say it was it was naivety or maybe just naivety or ignorance. We didn't really realize how big the swamp was. I mean, it's not like we're taking on some DC Bureaucrats that wanna hold on to their their their titles and don't wanna leave office. It's like we're up against a global crime syndicate that's, you know, probably comprised of people that are worshiping Satan.
Speaker 1:I mean, this it's it's a big enemy we're up against here. And they're they realize that America is on the like, we're at the tip of the spear. Like, you know, America is the last bastion of freedom. You know, people that I talk to, I see, you I see comments from people that are whether they're in Iran looking to America or The UK looking to America or Hong Kong, they're like, you you guys, you have to fit. You have to get on top of this in America because otherwise, this whole world's gonna plunge into darkness for a thousand years.
Speaker 1:So, I mean, it's what makes sense. It makes sense. Like, this is what we're up against. We're not up against just some minor corrupt politicians. Now we're we're kind of ending the the we're kinda hitting the end of our our time because I have another live interview to prepare for.
Speaker 1:But I wanna ask, like, as a final thought for this, which I think is really important, is what gives you hope? I mean, do you do you have hope that We the People can take this country back? Do you have the hope that the evil people around this world in this country will actually have justice brought to them?
Speaker 2:Yeah. Great question. And I'll be clear. There's not a day that I don't wake up with an absolute conviction that we're gonna win. I don't I don't get up.
Speaker 2:I have zero doubts about us winning. Now that's born of my faith. That's born a little bit of the supernatural, if you will, on on what motivated me to get involved the first place. But I know we're gonna win, and I see that spirit coming alive in hundreds of thousands of Americans that are awakening. But we had to learn this lesson.
Speaker 2:It's been painful. I mean, I agree with Mike Lindell in the sense that if we wouldn't have seen the corruption, if if Trump would have come and been inaugurated and sworn in 2020, we wouldn't have seen the depth of our problems foundationally in this country. And so I think God in his mercy has given us a very, very painful lesson to awaken us. And the question is, what are we going to do with it? But you can't put, know, as they say, the toothpaste back in the toothpaste bottle.
Speaker 2:The truth's out there. And both sides are playing for keeps. The Biden regime, the Obama regime, whoever you want to say, is running that outfit. They're doubling down. And the American people are wide awake.
Speaker 2:I mean, where we are, you know, from a year ago, there's there's been such a huge evolution in the way that we're looking at problems. We're looking at these institutions. And I'm more confident than ever. It's just that we're gonna this is gonna be painful. And right now, the enemy's doubling down.
Speaker 2:They're gonna get desperate. It's the same, you know, the same narrative that we're seeing out of Biden when he's got the kind of the Nazi backdrop with the, you know, the red lighting. Like, it's becoming more ominous. And we're seeing the threats that are being levied against your freedom fighters have increased. You know, ergo, Katherine Englebrecht and Greg Phillips being in jail.
Speaker 2:Like, but they're running out of tricks. And all we need is for the American people to stand firm, stand united, and we're gonna get our country back.
Speaker 1:Those are some good words to end on. It gives me hope. And I genuinely agree. I mean, I I look, I think that we have some difficult times ahead. And but I also feel like that we're going through this birthing process right now.
Speaker 1:And you know, whether we're, something new is being born in or it's the destruction of the old, either way, it's a painful process. But I think that everything that you're doing, everything that the audience is doing, every single person that has that little moment where they realize, wait, something isn't right. You can you help me? Which I know that that's a lot of what we're trying to do is we're trying to expose the evil. Because I believe that, I really do believe this, that most people in this world and most people that we're seeing, even the ones that are out there with the BLM and everything that fundamentally they're good people.
Speaker 1:Just that they've been they've been lied to. And so when we put that truth in front of them, and help them see through the lies, they're going to join us. And that that gives me a lot of hope. So, David, I just want to thank you again for coming on today, and sharing your wisdom and your experience. It's really helpful to really understand what's happening on the ground, you know, through through your lens.
Speaker 1:And that's I appreciate that. And if there's, you know, one place like how can people follow you? How can people support you? Where should people go?
Speaker 2:Yeah, best place to get ahold of me is truth at Professor David Clements. I'm on Telegram, but it's a bot infested mess. And for whatever reason, I'm not going to promote Telegram anymore, but I'm there as well under the professor's record. And then Gab. I want people to really pay attention to Andrew Torbaugh's work over at Gab, also the professor's record over there, because he is a free speech pioneer that's been around and really hasn't gotten his due with all of the people talking about Elon Musk and everything else.
Speaker 2:But over on Gab and True Social would be places where you can find me.
Speaker 1:Great. Great. Well, thank you again. And let's just let's hope things take a positive turn with these elections. Let's hope.
Speaker 2:Amen, man. I'll be praying.
Speaker 1:Alright. God bless you. Take care. Thank you, David.