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…So I'm all about the strange moments, and we're gonna talk about another one on this episode. So let's say you're in the middle of something like a conversation, a meeting a phone call and something comes out of your mouth. A word a sentence maybe just a sound of hesitation, and then you stop and think, Where did that come from? You didn't plan it You didn't decide it. It was just kind of there.
Out loud before you'd have formed a thought around it. They were talking about that moment. The thing you said before you thought it The voice that arrived maybe in your head without reason. And why it might deserve more attention than maybe you've been giving it. Welcome back to more than we see I'm Natalie.
So let's get right into it. I…
wanna talk through this moment. Um and it hasn't been too long ago for either And these moments happen to you too so I'm sure you can you can call one up in your mind. But I was going through some important documents. So think we sign on those things Anyway, going through some important documents. The kind of documents that you put off for years because sitting down to do them means admitting that there are certain things that are real.
Anyway, I was moving through them. The way that you do you're a little tired and you just want things to be done scanning half present, trying to just get through it And then I heard myself say it out loud quietly to no one Don't cite again. Not I should read it more carefully. Not really anything that felt off Some That was okay too. Just a simple don't sign again.
So I stopped and I put down my pen I think. I'm sure it was pen I had something in my hand Anyway I I set it down. And I came back about ten minutes later and There it was It was something that I had completely missed. And it's the kind of thing that would have mattered like a lot if I would have signed those. So here's what I keep thinking about.
I really didn't think my way into that warning. I had spoken it before…
I thought anything about it at all. Like my mouth got there before my mind did. And that's the thing we're sitting with today So let's talk about what's actually happening in that moment. Because there's more going on than it seems. So let me offer you a few different ways to hold that moment.
Not to pin it down just to kind of give it some language so you can think about it. One possibility is your nervous system is processing information, fast than your conscious mind can catch up to. That's common Happens all the time Right? Your brain takes in thousands of data points at any given moment. Most never make it into your awareness but sometimes they surface anyway.
Not really as a thought but as a sound a word a sentence that exists that your body…
didn't even know So they just threw it out there So it's like before that prefrontal cortex weighs in on what you're what you're processing. Researchers who study decision making call this thin slicing, the idea that your system can make accurate assessments…very quickly based on very little conscious nation. Malcolm Gladwell wrote about this. Demazio studied it from the neuroscience side. The conclusion they both kept arriving at was the same.
Your brain knows things before you do. And when it needs to get your attention quickly, it doesn't wait for you to think your way there It pushes something out a word a sound a sentence, the fastest route from knowing to action is sometimes through your mouth. Before it's through your mind. So it's not really a glitch It's just our system working as exactly as it was designed. A second possibility I wanna spend a little more time here because I think it's worth being really clear about what I'm thinking about.
Is that some people…have clear audience and actually we all do. So now if you're newer to the space that word might sound like something that belongs in a different kind of show but stay with me. Claire Audience is one of the four classic intuitive channels alongside Claire Cognizant's Clairsentiance and Clairvoyance. It simply means intuitive information…
that arrives in the form of a language. Maybe not a huge loud voice from outside of you, maybe not something that sounds like a movie Usually it sounds kind of like your own thought the same voice the same cadence except it arrives, slightly ahead of where you are. Slightly more…certain than you feel. And often, slightly more direct then you would normally speak to yourself. So those are really good indicators that's what's going on.
It's a key marker. The language is clean It doesn't hedge It doesn't say…maybe you should think about whether…It says don't sign it yet. Short clear directive, and gone almost as fast as it arrives. And most people who experience this don't initially think of it as intuition They think of…it's something they've talked themselves into. And technically, they did.
The question is where did it come from? And here's how people commonly describe when they start paying attention. It can feel like a thought…that arrives fully formed. Like it already was there waiting you just all of a sudden heard it. It doesn't feel like there's a lot of effort put into it You didn't build to it It was just present.
And there's often a quality of neutrality…
that exists with it as well. No fear attached no urgency in the way like you know how anxiety can build a new and it brings that urgency of something needs to be done now. There's really no urgency…to this type of thing Just clean flat statement a fact delivered before you even really had a question? For what you were thinking or what you were saying. That quality, the flatness, the certainty the speed, is what distinguishes it from anxious self talk, which tends to spiral or repeat itself to get louder the more you engage with it.
The intuitive voice…says the thing once, and then it waits to see what you do. So now…How do you develop this…
That's a great question because I I'm actually starting to get questions from the community and I love that You can ask me anything Anyway let's let's talk about how you might develop this. Or…not necessarily develop it. You know it's like developing your sense of touch We're not developing it We're just starting to pay to it So let's talk about…
what getting better at catching it or paying attention to it? The honest answer is to practice not…
summoning anything not sitting down and asking for information. Just catching what's already arriving…and treating it as…it's worth looking at. So here's what that practicality…looks like. You start to notice the moments when something comes out of you that you didn't consciously construct. It can be a word at a conversation, a sentence you write before you understood what you meant.
A reaction that landed before you had a reason. You don't need it to decide immediately what it means or where it came from you just need to register it. And I have a really good example of this When Steph and I are talking through…like podcasts or content or things that we're putting together, oftentimes, a word…will just come to me and I'll say it as part of our conversation because I've kind of learned Like that's that's how I'm processing things Right? So I'll just say it out loud and then we'll look it up and it'll make so much sense And…
things that I hadn't fully found as a like a functional process…
are just kind of flowing through. So it…
kind of is a matter of really pay just paying attention. What you'll notice as you do this is that your ability to hear gets sharper. It's less like turning up the volume and more like learning the language. At first you're gonna catch…one word…
two words, maybe a phrase and then you start to understand before that sentence is finished. The nervous system explanation and the intuitive channel explanation aren't really in conflict here. They might be two ways describing this same event, one from the outside and one from the inside. One is kind of the mechanism and one is the meaning. And you don't have to choose between the two because really I think that they are coexisting together.
Our nervous systems…
which is different than like if you look at design maps of bodies, and steady cardio. Anyway, We have a lot of different systems that run-in our body, our nervous system is definitely one of them…
The nervous system is always going to be paying attention and clocking the things that you've done and remembering how you felt about a certain situation…about trauma about anxiety those things are always gonna resurface when you're experiencing something that seems similar to what you have experienced before. That's what nervous systems do. But a nervous system in tandem with your extrasensory perceptions. Your clear audience clear cognizant like all of those things combined, they work together to have those experiences. They're not one or the other.
So the question really isn't which one is right The question is…What do you do with it? So if this is real, and I think it is the question becomes practical. How do you start working with it? So Here's what I noticed about people who've learned to work with us. They've gotten better at catching themselves not analyzing it just catching it So I have a little tool this week…for this podcast…
to look at it with a few different doorways and take the one that fits for you. The first doorway is audio. So after something…comes out before you meant it to. Pause. Just don't explain it away Just ask um what did I actually say?
Repeat it back to yourself quietly. Notice if it has a shape to it like a direction, or is it telling you something Is it is it kinda guiding that light…
Don't sign it yet as a heading, not an explanation…
It's just the kind of thing you're listening for. The second doorway is written. So keep a small record not like, well I love journaling so you can absolutely journal if that's kinda your thing. I love it Anyway, but you don't have to keep this big spiritual journal of all this stuff that you're tracking. You wanna write it down just write down a sentence or two.
So today I said this before I thought it What happened next? Over time you'll start to notice, whether what came out first tends to be accurate because you're not building a belief as you're collecting data on your own patterns. The third doorway is a little more body based So the moment something comes out of your mouth before you think it notice what your body did at the same time. Was there a pause in your breath a shift in your posture…
You know the example…
that I was giving when the podcast when we're working through podcast or content or Like we're just having open flow conversations about where we're headed or just even on the day…
Often my I kinda get like a tatingly feeling. So just notice those type of things. The language the physical response can often arrive together And if you can learn to notice both, you're just gonna have more information. You don't have to do all three You don't have to do any of consistently. Just start with one moment this week And if something comes up before you thought it, Notice it That's enough The tool is simple The harder part is what comes after.
And that is…
Not really the moment itself The hard part is trusting…
That it happened after the fact the trust that had happened after the fact. Because once your brain catches up it's gonna have a lot to say. You probably…just assumed that…is what it's gonna tell you. You're reading into it that was luck and you know I still have I still have that all the time Be like I don't know Was that just like…maybe it was. And I'm not asking you to decide what I'm asking is whether you've been in the habit of explaining it away.
Before you even looked at it…
And here's what I've noticed really not to say myself but in people who work this regularly as the early voice doesn't get louder over time It really does just stay quiet It stays that that that thing you notice. Once you start noticing it, it's your ability to hear it that changes And the way you build that ability isn't just believing in it more. It's by catching it more Just noticing just registering that something came up before you had a reason for it and not assigning it a meaning a immediately, not dismissing it immediately, just holding it for a second. That pause is the practice because the voice that arrived first before your reasoning, before your analysis, But for your doubt, sometimes…It's wrong, but sometimes…it's the thing you needed to hear the most. And the only way to know the difference it's to start keeping track.
Not necessarily in a form away just in a way…that turns…
you're noticing into kind of a system. Just kind of in a quiet way of someone who has decided to take themselves seriously. To say something came out of you before I thought it, It deserves a moment. You can stay skeptical you can stay grounded. You can keep asking questions.
But don't explain it away before you have even listened. So notice what comes out before your mind catches up. And I will see you next time on more than we see…