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Seth Holehouse is a TV personality, YouTuber, podcaster, and patriot who became a household name in 2020 after his video exposing election fraud was tweeted, shared, uploaded, and pinned by President Donald Trump — reaching hundreds of millions worldwide.
Titled The Plot to Steal America, the video was created with a mission to warn Americans about the communist threat to our nation—a mission that’s been at the forefront of Seth’s life for nearly two decades.
After 10 years behind the scenes at The Epoch Times, launching his own show was the logical next step. Since its debut, Seth’s show “Man in America” has garnered 1M+ viewers on a monthly basis as his commitment to bring hope to patriots and to fight communism and socialism grows daily. His guests have included Peter Navarro, Kash Patel, Senator Wendy Rogers, General Michael Flynn, and General Robert Spalding.
He is also a regular speaker at the “ReAwaken America Tour” alongside Eric Trump, Mike Lindell, Gen. Flynn.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Holehouse. So let me ask you a question, and you probably agree with me, but let me ask you though. Do you think that sometime in the next six to twelve months, there'll be some kind of chaos here in America, whether it's post election, post inauguration? Me, personally, I think there's a very good chance of it.
Seth Holehouse:And my guest today, mister Martin Armstrong, is predicting the exact same thing, unfortunately, with his models. And if you're not familiar with Martin Armstrong, he's a brilliant brilliant man. He's a documentary about him. I suggest you do some research on him. He's a guy that is literally one of the guys that the central banks bring in to consult.
Seth Holehouse:Right? He's also one of the guys that for a long time was vetting presidents to see what their financial, knowledge was. So he'd sit down. They'd they'd bring potential presidents, to this to him. And he would ask some questions, and he'd be able to give them an answer and say, look, this is how well this person understands the global economy, etcetera.
Seth Holehouse:So he's a smart guy, and he's got a lot to say about what he thinks is gonna be happening over the next, say, six to twelve months, whether it's, stocks or war, or more importantly, what happens with the election and what he thinks will happen with Kennedy and his role within the Trump administration. So folks, please enjoy the interview with Martin Armstrong. Mister Armstrong, it is such an honor to have you back on the show. Thank you very much for being here with us today.
Speaker 2:It's always great to see you. It's nice to hear an actual real voice these days.
Seth Holehouse:Yeah. Few and far between. So there's a lot I wanna talk about with you, and I'm always interested in seeing what your perspective is and also what your models represent. But one of the things I'm curious of is your perspective on what Kennedy coming into the Trump, you know, campaign and coming into the Trump administration, what that means and how that might affect the election, but also how it might affect what happens if Trump is in the White House. I'll I'll let you kinda jump in wherever you want to on that.
Speaker 2:Well, as you know, I've been kind of lobbying RFK for a few months here on the side, talking to his people, etcetera. But my view is that Washington does not like RFK or Trump. Why? Know, dealing with them, and I say, going back to when Ronald Reagan was elected, you know, they were all upset. And then I'm talking about the Republicans.
Speaker 2:And I said, what's the problem? And they said, oh, you just don't understand it. Explain it to me. And they said, oh, he's a governor. We're gonna have to train him.
Speaker 2:So ever since then, I've seen dealing with Washington and and other governments, they don't like anybody from the outside. So you look at, Trump comes to office, they stick in pants. Biden, they stick in Camilla. They want only want people from Washington because they know the game. They can, you know, pretend that, oh, yes.
Speaker 2:I'm against him, whatever. But when it comes down to spending, they all sign on to it. I had kind of warned, and I think people have maybe thought I was a little crazy at first, but I warned them that there was no way that the Democrats were gonna let him on the ticket. That I was told from the very beginning that Biden would not be the candidate, that he was just basically a placeholder. And if you recall at the very beginning, he said there would be no debates.
Speaker 2:Right? Then all of a sudden there was a debate and that was the Democrats effectively pulling that off to show the world that he was incompetent. All right? One of the hardline Democrats even said, well, now the world sees what we've seen for two years. All right.
Speaker 2:So, they basically will eat their own. And if you look at it, CNN even bragged. They said this is the first time in history, a debate is taking place before the two people were even nominated. It was a setup. All right.
Speaker 2:They kept RFK off the ticket. And I think the final straw was them kicking him off the ballot in New York. And so people were starting to say, okay, fine. I guess you're right. Look, I just know the game.
Speaker 2:All right. And when Trump was in in 2016, they pulled the same schemes. Oh, you're not from here. You have to give everybody confidence how you run the government. We need people, you know, you gotta put in people with experience.
Speaker 2:So everybody that, you know, the cabinet was picked by them. You got John Bolton, all the neocons, and he starts firing these people because he realized they're all stabbing them in the back. So this time, the reason I was kind of behind trying to push RFK to join Trump is because they are both anti war. And that's the commonality. They both understand the the neocons.
Speaker 2:And, I mean, I have spoken with him and Bobby even knows about Victoria Newland, etcetera. So I thought, okay, fine. Yes, they disagree on some things. We all don't agree on everything all the time, but the on the core issues, they did. And that's why I was kind of pushing them to to get together.
Speaker 2:Now what I have been kind of lobbying for, and I'm not finished yet. I'm trying on the on the Trump side, and I encourage any of your viewers to maybe start sending letters to Trump. I wanted RFK to become attorney general, not head of HIH or NIH or any other nonsense. Why? Because you can be the head of any agency, very nice.
Speaker 2:Okay? You go in there and I'm going to clean it up. I'm going to change all the rules. Okay, great. All right.
Speaker 2:The next administration comes in, they change it all back. Nothing is guaranteed there. So I've been pushing that RFK should be attorney general, like his father. So it's the same type of position, kinda runs in the family a little bit. But as attorney general, he can actually indict Pfizer, etcetera.
Speaker 2:And indict these neocons that are really to me, they've usurped the power of the government. What I find very curious, you have Merrick Garland, you have Blinken, and you have Victoria Nuland. All claim that their families were over there in that region and were persecuted by Russians. What are the odds of three people in the Biden administration all having the same complaint against Russians? Is this a personal vendetta that you've usurped the power of The United States to abuse it for personal reasons?
Speaker 2:I mean, that's, to me, important conflict of interest questions that should be asked, but nobody will ask. And the reason I was also kind of behind, this merger is a lot of people also don't know, and why I thought it would work, was back in 2016, Trump had actually offered, RFK a position to create a vaccine commission. And he agreed. They had a meeting in Trump Tower. And then what happened?
Speaker 2:Pfizer and the rest of them started lobbying on Capitol Hill to shut that down. So the vaccine commission was shut down a few months before COVID came out, conveniently. All right. So that's why I've kind of like argued that, look, he should be attorney general. He can indict Pfizer.
Speaker 2:Right? He can indict these neocons. You cannot as the head of an agency. It's it's, like, pointless because you can do all the changes you want. Next regime comes in.
Speaker 2:It's all back where it was. There's nothing permanent there. So our computer, which has been remarkable in its forecasts, because it's not my opinion. It's not calling up people asking what their opinions are. It's all based on economics.
Speaker 2:And back in 2016, it was all the polls said Hillary was gonna win. Our computer said no. Trump would win. Same thing happened again with Brexit in in Britain. The polls were against it.
Speaker 2:And computer said, Nope, he's going to win. In fact, Nigel Farage came to our 2019 conference we had in Rome that time. And he said, Of course, I'm here. He's the only one that said I would win. And what this time it's showing, and you can look on our site, I mean, the 2020, it was evenly split between six models.
Speaker 2:And, you know, Google like, you know, Obama, I think he won by 51.5 or 52%, something like that. Most of these elections are just, you know, one to 3%. That's it. This time, our computer has projected two models out of the six. In fact, there's only two that even say that it would be close for the for the Democrats.
Speaker 2:All others are showing a Republican victory, and two of them are showing one is at 61% and the other at 59. Now in case you don't, you know, most people don't know the history, but there's only three presidents ever reached 60%. That was, FDR one time during the Great Depression, Johnson, right after Kennedy was assassinated, which was probably a sympathy vote, and Richard Nixon, when he stood up and said, we're going to take you, I'm taking you out of Vietnam. That's it. Everybody else is like 51, 50 two, 50 three percent.
Speaker 2:Alright? So, it's really the undecided people that that make the the decision. Effectively, I think you got 40% that are Democrats always vote Democrat no matter what what it is. They vote by the label. And the same thing on the Republican side.
Speaker 2:Do do those people even listen to issues? I don't know. I don't know if they would ever change their their their vote based upon what somebody does. But they you have to understand. Like I've said before, I could run for congress.
Speaker 2:I'll say whatever it is you want to hear. I'll save the whales. I'll make it rain only on Thursdays, you know, whatever. And then you get to Washington and day one, there's a meeting. And they say the same thing.
Speaker 2:They say, okay, fine. Great. Glad you're here. Now here is how you vote. Okay?
Speaker 2:And just look at the votes. They're down party line. All right? Even when there's a Supreme Court decision, oh, it was, you know, the right wing voted against the left. This is the way it's always presented.
Speaker 2:So, you know, who you vote for, whatever they say is kind of irrelevant because, you know, when they get down there, the only time I saw rebellion of that was, the Tea Party. If you remember, it was like 80, some of them got elected. And at that first day meeting, they said, No, we're here for something else and we're going to vote this way. But there were enough of them to do so. And so John Bonner was the head of the Republicans at the time, and he could not deliver the Republican vote, and they would not go.
Speaker 2:So what he started doing is he started punishing anybody, taking them off of any financial committee if they had any support for those people. This is how Washington really works. It is disgusting. It is corrupt right all the way down the line. Alright.
Speaker 2:You can vote for me. I'll go to congress. I'm not allowed to make a motion on the floor. All motions must come through a committee. If you're not a good boy, guess what?
Speaker 2:You don't get on a committee that you wanted. This is how they intimidate people to do whatever they need. So, this is why, honestly, I think the winning ticket is RFK with Trump. I want to push him for AG because Trump could actually, for the first time, trust him because he knows that he's also against the same thing. All right?
Speaker 2:I could run and say, oh, no, give me attorney general position, you know? Yes, I'll do whatever you tell me to do. And then I do the opposite, you know? And then you got to fire me, big thing. I got to be approved by the Senate.
Speaker 2:It's a mess. All right. So you really don't wanna put somebody in there that is questionable. And I think RFK, look, he's passionate about the whole, you know, health issues, but he's also passionate about World War III, and he understands it. He understands I did have a conversation with him, Gee, how would you know, solve the Ukraine War?
Speaker 2:Very simple, cut off all the money. But, so, I mean, he at least asked me those questions. You know what mean? So that's really why I was kind of behind that. And I think that if they get in, we have a shot at least postponing a lot of this stuff.
Speaker 2:And I would, if he would then indict some of these people, then maybe you got a shot at shutting down these neocons. But, I mean, I know some of them and I've known them for a long time. And, like I've said before, people ask me, gee, what is it with these people? You know? The only explanation I can offer is that I think when Khrushchev said we will bury you, they all got their backs up and, no, we're gonna take democracy and spread it to the world.
Speaker 2:And then when communism fell, I can tell you what they told Reagan when he wanted to go meet Gorbachev. They couldn't say he was a communist anymore. So then they said, oh, well, you can never trust a Russian. So it's turned from a political economic philosophy or religion that they had to now just racism. And so I think they're mad that they didn't get to shoot anybody and communism fell all by itself.
Speaker 2:They just spent their whole life hating Russians, and they haven't stopped.
Seth Holehouse:And so looking at this, and it's very interesting. And and if Kennedy was put in as an AG, right, and let's just look at, say, the the big pharma, Right? The the pharmaceutical industrial complex, which we know has immense control and leverage over not just Washington, but the media, the the medical systems, the medical colleges, the training of the doctors. I mean, it's a it's almost like you're walking into some small town in in Mexico. It's run by the cartels, and you realize that the bar, the the library, the post office, they're all run by the cartels.
Seth Holehouse:Right? That that's kind of the the the the the depth of this control as I've come to understand. So do you think that just him as the AG with Trump in the White House and where our team is around them, that he would have the power to indict, say, Pfizer, as an example? And and how would he go about doing that? And what could the potential outcomes be?
Speaker 2:Well, look, it is a a behemoth. That's for sure. But you gotta at least be able to poke it once in a while. You know? It's You take the scandal in Europe, you know, that I mean, there's pictures of the head of Pfizer hugging, you know, Ursula, who's the head of Europe.
Speaker 2:She refused to release all her emails. She bought all these vaccines enough for three times the population, never put it before parliament. Nobody ever voted on it. She did it all and has refused to show anything. Why?
Speaker 2:Alright. I mean, this is the level what you're talking about. You know, Fauci, it's it just goes on and on and on. And I don't think you're going to cure it, but I think you've got a good shot at least poking this whole thing. And then maybe, I mean, to me, the neocons have usurped power and Pfizer and the rest of them are kind of more or less doing the same thing.
Speaker 2:Even the Wall Street Journal published an article, it's called The Revolving Door. Why are the bankers never prosecuted? They figured it out very clearly. You know? If you hire the people that are supposed to be investigating you, nobody's gonna investigate you because they all want one of those big paying jobs.
Speaker 2:So the Wall Street Journal had put it up and they call it the revolving door. And there's been a number of articles talking about it, but nobody's done anything. All right. So, they hire from the SEC. So the SEC doesn't prosecute anybody.
Speaker 2:I mean, this is the way they control government. And the same thing with, at least RFK understands you know, how the drugs are approved. They're all paid for. The very studies are paid for by the people that, are producing the drugs. I mean, as a fund manager, I was if I you know, the only way I could deal with all the regulations globally, being an international hedge fund manager, I wasn't allowed to invest in anything.
Speaker 2:Because if you, Ed, asked me, gee, what about IBM? And I had one share under all these different regulations, I would have to reveal everything I own to you. And by me giving you advice on IBM, I might make $2 You know, I mean, it was absurd. And the lawyer said, look, only way to comply with all this, because we're on every continent, you can't have anything. And so, I mean, that's ended up I'd like to see government have to comply with the same rules that I had to comply with.
Speaker 2:Know, then you would clean up government a little bit. But, you know, there's just so there's so much that that needs to be done on that area. And I think RFK at least understands that. He would bring in good people that others of like mind into the justice department. But the way they have been operating it, you know, justice is spelled with two words, just us.
Speaker 2:That's it. Might sound the same, but it's two words. And so I think it's a first step in trying to get things under control. Will it be a %? Nothing's ever a %, but we gotta try.
Seth Holehouse:And what about potential chaos? Because we've talked a lot about that and what you're seeing in civil unrest. And, you know, looking at kind of playing out the scenarios, let's just say that Trump wins, I could see protests across the nation. I could see the activation of all these fifth column troops and and the illegal immigrants that are, you know, lot of the military aged men. I I could see that, basically, the plan would be that if they think Trump is going to win, that, okay, we'll hand them the keys to the castle and then burn it down the next day and blame it on him.
Seth Holehouse:But if Harris wins, I could see a lot of the same chaos happening.
Speaker 2:So what
Seth Holehouse:are you what are you seeing as potential outcomes as we head into 2025?
Speaker 2:The computer basically says that the twenty twenty four election may be the very last one we have. There are lawsuits being filed and already, I mean, you've got, I think, Ohio kicked up to a million people off the ballot. There were not Americans. Texas is doing the same thing. You know, if Camilla wins, you're gonna have I think this is going to the Supreme Court.
Speaker 2:You know, we're not talking about voting machines, you know, she counted something twice or the laughable things that, you know, that, you know, people putting stickers on tombstones, I voted Democrat. You know? You know, dead people have been voting in every election all along. I mean, I had published a a news article from nineteen o eight. The grand jury was investigating in Chicago Elections, and they concluded there has never been a fair election.
Speaker 2:Alright? That was the grand jury conclusion. There's always cheating in every election. It on both sides. Alright?
Speaker 2:That's not the question. The question is, was the cheating enough to alter the outcome? And this time, by putting in millions and millions of illegal aliens. This is going to the Supreme Court. I mean, you know, Trump wins, they're gonna challenge it.
Speaker 2:Trump loses, they're gonna you know, the other side's gonna challenge it. What's the outcome here? The computer's warning this may be the last one. And just look at what they've done on the Democratic side. I warned they would never allow another person on the ticket with Biden.
Speaker 2:Why? Because it was set up from the beginning. Alright? He would step down and then hand it over. There were at the time, there was two groups.
Speaker 2:You had Obama and the Clintons, Michelle and Hillary. But what happened was that the money was already being raised under Biden. She and Camille was vice president, so gonna be on the same ticket. So legally, they just kinda moved it from one to the other. They couldn't hand it to Hillary or to Michelle.
Speaker 2:They would have had to go out and start raising money themselves. But there was already way too much in the pot for Camilla. So they basically the word was that I heard, anybody that challenges Camilla, do it at your own peril. It would be persona non grata and thrown out of the party. Now this is the first time in history that you have a candidate from Democrat or Republican, doesn't matter.
Speaker 2:Nobody voted for Think about that. This is a dictatorship that they are accusing Putin of. They picked the candidate. We have no say. Alright?
Speaker 2:And they put her in. She has yet to do any kind of a press conference or anything. And the first one she's going to be doing won't be by herself. She's going to have this guy, you know, her vice president alongside of her. What happened to the debates?
Speaker 2:You know, she's incapable of running the government, and that's why they want her. It's just another placeholder from, like, Biden. And the neocons, my concern is, and the reason I said they were gonna do this, is that, look, they are so close to creating World War three. They have been able to seize the power of The United States, all the foreign policy. They're not elected.
Speaker 2:You really think they're going to just say, Oh, sorry, I lost. Here it is. No, not going to happen. All right? So, even go back to the Munich Security Conference.
Speaker 2:That was the setup. Alright? That should be the role of the secretary of state. He sent Kanoa. Why?
Speaker 2:Alright. They say, here here's the card. Read this. Oh, Ukraine should join NATO. That just overthrows, you know, four or five different treaties.
Speaker 2:Blinken knows the treaty, so he can't say that. And she just stands up and says that. Alright. And that sets the whole tone. So, I mean, it was clear.
Speaker 2:If you understand politics and the roles of different people, she had no business being there at the Munich Conference. That's the Secretary of State that goes there, like Henry Kissinger used to do. He didn't see the president go or a vice president. That was Henry's role. So, she's been groomed for this placeholder position.
Speaker 2:She'll say whatever they tell her to say, and she'll sign whatever they stick in front of her nose. They're too close to this power.
Seth Holehouse:Folks, we all see it. Everything's getting more expensive. We're paying two, three, four times what things cost just a few years ago, and we know they're lying. 3% inflation, really? Think about it.
Seth Holehouse:Why are they telling us to keep our hard earned money in the banks and stock market while they're rushing to buy gold and silver? That's right. Governments and central banks around the world are dumping the dollar and scrambling to buy gold and silver right now. These are smart people. They see the signs just like you do.
Seth Holehouse:They know the crash is coming. The dollar has lost more than half its value in the last five years, and our national debt's increasing a trillion dollars every hundred days. It can't go on like this. Even Bank of America's warning about a dollar collapse. And if they're right, it's only a matter of time before our savings, our IRAs, and our four zero one k's could be wiped out.
Seth Holehouse:Look. Right now, it's still easy to buy gold and silver, but in the future, it may not be. Experts are saying that prices will keep surging, and UBS says that gold could even go up to $5,000 an ounce. Noble Gold's phones have been ringing off the hook because the folks who get it are wasting time. Now I can't tell you what to do with your hard earned money, but I can tell you that even if just some of your savings are in gold and silver, you can rest assured that money is safe.
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Speaker 2:And that's why I was kinda pushing RFK to join because he's at least he understands that, and he's against war. Alright? But these people will take us into war. They're trying now. There's another thing that they have done which people don't mainstream media will not even dare touch, But you can maybe do a little digging yourself, and you'll see up to 70% of the troops in Afghanistan and Iraq were not American troops.
Speaker 2:They're mercenaries. You hire Blackwater, they hire people, and they send them in. Okay? What is the difference? The difference is the neocons can get an approval to give money to Blackwater.
Speaker 2:Alright? And that's approved. They don't need a declaration of war. You're gonna declare war and send US troops in? Guess what?
Speaker 2:Alright? Only congress can authorize that.
Seth Holehouse:So they're able to through this this well, also, I imagine that the funding can also be circumvented, and they can tap into the military, like, black budget funding that, say, Catherine Austin Fitz has talked to. Hey. Where's the missing trillions of dollars? Right? So they can then use that to pay contractors, right, to overthrow governments.
Seth Holehouse:I mean, I I mean Look.
Speaker 2:I mean, go back to 09/11. You had Rumsfeld testified before congress. There, I think, was 6,000,000,000,000 or something was missing from the the the Pentagon budget. And he swore, okay. Fine.
Speaker 2:We're gonna start an investigation to find it. Oh, the hate the plane hit the very room where all the records were. Sorry about that. We can't do that now. And it look.
Speaker 2:The excuses are endless. It's like, you know, the dog ate my my homework, you know? And so you've already have mercenaries participating in this Ukrainian move into Russia. My sources have said that even Putin has lodged a complaint with The United States, Hey, what's going on here? Oh, they're not our troops.
Speaker 2:Okay, they're all mercenaries. We tell them what to do, but it's like you hire somebody to kill your spouse. Well, I didn't do it. He did. I mean, this is really what's going on.
Speaker 2:And US does have troops in Moldavia right now. They've got troops on every border. They've been building them up. And, look, our danger here I mean, I had a meeting in Berlin A Few Months ago and we were talking about this and I said, look, I think they're probably gonna attempt to assassinate Trump. And they said, what?
Speaker 2:Oh, come on. I said, I'm telling you, I know what these people do. They did that and they said, how do you know? I said, because this is, it's just out of their playbook. And then when you say, who is the assassin?
Speaker 2:Pay attention. It's always they use their middle name. Like JFO, Lee Harvey Oswald. It's not Oswald. It's not Lee Oswald.
Speaker 2:It's Lee Harvey Oswald. I don't know. You know, they just read it out the same book with this guy. They did the same thing. They used the middle name.
Speaker 2:Why? You had shooters there. Okay? Also, Trump was denied sniper protection for two years. This was the first time they showed up.
Speaker 2:Why? They see the guy on the roof. Oh, but we can't shoot until he shoots. All right. So he shoots.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay. He missed. Sorry about that. Then they get to Then the guy's always taken out. No trial, no investigation.
Speaker 2:Why did you do this? Did somebody pay you? None of those questions ever get asked. So my concern is this, that we're talking about these neocons are very close to getting World War III. And I just do not see them giving up so easily.
Speaker 2:They have two choices left, and that is either try to assassinate Trump again. Maybe this time, oh, he died of monkeypox or bird flu or something like that. Or they start a war first before the election, which the drums are beating over there right now. This is why Ukraine suddenly went into Russia. We got all kinds of troops on each side.
Speaker 2:You've got, Iran going in. Putin has been basically telling them to sit on their hands because he knows this is a baiting game. They desperately want him to attack anything in NATO, anything. And they can say, see, now he's invading Europe, And then we're full in. This is what they want to create.
Speaker 2:If Trump gets in and they can't stop him from getting in, then they have to create a war that he cannot get out of. Look, this is a real game right now. And these neocons, like I said, I know some of them. Bill Crystal's father started the movement. I know Bill.
Speaker 2:He even spoke at one of our conferences back in the nineties. And they switched sides. He's over there advising Democrats now. Why? Because they'll they flip back and forth.
Speaker 2:They're like cross dressers. Whoever is gonna do war, okay. I'm with you. You know, he had a magazine he started. And because Trump was anti war, he started trashing Trump and his magazine basically collapsed.
Speaker 2:So, look, he wrote the book to go into Iraq. And he, you know, I even argued with him back then. It was like his view was if you take out Saddam Hussein, you take out Assad of Syria, and you take out Qaddafi, will bring peace to the Middle East. I said, that's not gonna happen. Alright.
Speaker 2:It has been declassified. Some of it that they thought that they would go in and take out Iraq. And then what would happen would be they thought they could take Iraq out in a matter of weeks, and they would move directly into Tehran. Alright? Iraq, they got bogged down in.
Speaker 2:So, look, this is what these people want. I don't I I there is no explanation other than they've always been they've just hated Russians from day one. I don't know. And no matter what happens, this is their agenda. And from a financial standpoint, they're idiots.
Speaker 2:You've got Lincoln threatening China. Oh, we're gonna put sanctions on you if you help Russia. So then what do they do? They create bricks. You've now divided the world economy.
Speaker 2:Alright? That's really geopolitical. Alright? China dumps 53,000,000,000 of US debt first quarter this year. You do not hold the debt of your enemy.
Speaker 2:You go into war, guess what? They own 10% of our national debt. Sorry about that. We're not paying you. They default on it.
Speaker 2:Alright. China knows this. So they, you know, have been trying to sell off stuff, but it's this is where we're at. You have to understand that, you know, blinking and threatening China over Taiwan. Alright.
Speaker 2:So if China stops buying our long term debt, you're going to see the spread between short term rates and long term rise. They got as high as almost 9% back in 1980. Alright. If you cannot sell the long term debt, long term interest rates rise. And if you cannot sell the debt to pay off the old because we're in this Ponzi scheme, that's when the default comes.
Speaker 2:So it's all kind of really connected. And so when we start looking out going forward, it does not look too good. All right. Mainly because these guys are really screwing everything up from Sunday. But, you know, this is what I think we have to pay attention to.
Speaker 2:And and in the financial markets, Most of the analysis that people hear is pretty much wrong, because it tends to be only domestic oriented. What's the Fed gonna do next? Blah blah blah. Then you have the international situation. For example, I got called back into the nineteen eighty seven crash.
Speaker 2:They didn't understand it, but you can read the the the ending conclusion to the Brady Commission report. I yelled and screamed at them. They finally understood what I was saying, that they had sold the third of the national debt to the Japanese. Now you're standing up and saying you're gonna lower the dollar by 40%. They're gonna sell.
Speaker 2:Alright? These people don't understand international finance. Russia, the same thing. I had stood up and I said, look, Russia is going to collapse. Did that in June of 'ninety eight.
Speaker 2:Russia is going to collapse. They give it about thirty days. We're seeing like a hundred billion going in, but a hundred and 50,000,000,000 pouring out. Alright. London Financial Times put that on the front page.
Speaker 2:Alright. Russia collapses. That sets off a problem because all these hedge funds, alright, they can't get out of the Russian trade. There's no there's no market. So they raise money to cover those losses.
Speaker 2:They start selling everything else. Alright. You just went through the same thing at the August. All right? Stock market crashes.
Speaker 2:A lot of people ask me, gee, how come you knew it was just going crash and then immediately turn back up? Because it was international, not domestic. Okay? And it was the yen carry trade. So what happens is then as the yen starts going up, the Japanese investors losing money over here, he starts selling assets here and taking the money home.
Speaker 2:As the yen goes up, the people that were borrowing yen because it was cheap start losing money. So then they start trying to get out of that trade. So you have this crazy market. Japanese market falls 20%. The yen carry trades being over, you know, over US market goes down.
Speaker 2:People are, oh, what's going on? What's going on? And you have people running, oh, the Fed should come in with immediate emergency interest rate cut. People just you don't know what the hell is going on. That was domestic.
Speaker 2:You know, you would do that for a domestic issue, not international. Lower the interest rate, and guess what? You know, the foreign investors that are here, it's time to sell, and they take their money back. You know, we have to start understanding we are all connected. This you know, it's not all about, oh, gee.
Speaker 2:The Fed would say, you know, gonna raise it lower. That's very nice. But there are international issues here that are going on, war, etcetera, we gotta pay attention to. It's it's it's it's external at this point.
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Seth Holehouse:And they may they might hate Donald Trump. It doesn't matter. But they're seeing a lot more of the truth now. And I think that this is something that we're seeing around the world, but especially here in America, that people are breaking out of this propaganda, out of this brainwashed program that's been put into them since childhood, and they're seeing the truth for what it is now. So how do you think it might be hard to quantify, but how do you think that affects like, what what weight do you give that in terms of what happens in November?
Speaker 2:Oh, again, if you step back and look at this globally, you see the trend easier. All right? You had the EU elections. What happened? Oh my God, it turned right.
Speaker 2:They threw out who was there. France, the same thing. All right? You go to UK, look what happened. Alright?
Speaker 2:Even if you look over in in Bangladesh, the iron lady was forced to flee the country. What's happening, 60% of the world went to politics, to elections this year. The trend is throw out whoever is there. Alright? It's not left.
Speaker 2:It's not right. It's basically the world is screwed up, as you say. People are starting to respond. That's what our computer picks up. Okay?
Speaker 2:People will vote based upon what they're experiencing, not the propaganda. Look, Hillary raised 40 times more money than Trump did in 2016. Didn't work. Alright. You know, it's I mean, we had, three girls who were in their twenties back then in our office.
Speaker 2:You know, I didn't tell them what to vote for or something. And they were all against Hillary. And I said, you know, why? You know, what happened? And they said, she wants to, you know, draft us.
Speaker 2:And I just joked. Said, well, maybe you look cute in army boots. That was the way they looked at it. They were calling her a female Nazi or she's from the sixties and anything a man does we can do. But it's a different error.
Speaker 2:But she was judging women like by her standard from back then. And the younger generation don't see it that way. I think COVID was the watershed event. Because in Europe, I don't know anybody. I've been, I know a lot of people in Germany, Austria, they are vehemently against it.
Speaker 2:There was a big lawsuit in Switzerland against the government for violating their freedom of speech, etcetera, and all over COVID. And the Supreme Court dismissed it. They said, oh, you don't have standing. Look, this is Thrasymachus, and he said it two thousand five hundred years ago. Justice is only the self interest of those in power.
Speaker 2:That's it. When there is no rule of law, and that's where we're at, looking at what they've done to Trump, etcetera. When there is no rule of law, the country cannot stand. It cannot. All right.
Speaker 2:So, this election, I think that's what you're seeing. You look at the global trend, Trump should win. It's like just throw out whoever's there. And my concern is we are going to see very large civil unrest. How are they gonna handle this?
Speaker 2:Because these neocons, and I can tell you, they can even Google, why did they take out JFK? He was against war, but the CIA and its own Wikipedia, Google Northwood project. And they proposed killing Americans, blaming it on Cuba to justify going in, to invade Cuba. JFK turned it down. And after that, he wanted to shut down, the CIA.
Speaker 2:Then you had Richard Nixon they chased out of office. Why? There was a tape also. The head of the CIA was in his office and he said, I know who killed JFK. Alright.
Speaker 2:Watergate, I think you could have got a a couple of, thugs from any inner city that could have robbed an office without getting caught. Oh, to CIA. Oh, you got me. Sorry about that. You know?
Speaker 2:I mean, I bumped into Nixon on the beach in New Jersey after he was out of office. And I was kind of surprised he didn't have Secret Service at the time. There were a couple of guys there, And so I saw it firsthand. And when I Googled it up, all right, when he left office, he declined Secret Service protection and hired his own people. Why?
Speaker 2:Just ask the question, why? Why is it over sixty years we still don't have the documents from the JFK assassination? All right? What are they hiding? I mean, if that showed Russia did it, you know, they would have had that out in three weeks and we would have been invading.
Speaker 2:Come on. So what you're seeing, I think, is on a global scale because I'm seeing it in Europe. And I get emails from everywhere. And you're right, people waking up. I get emails from people that say, yeah, you know, I voted against Trump before, but, you know, I think you're right.
Speaker 2:I'm voting for him this time. You know, this is this is, I think, part of this, you know, endgame into 02/1932 that our computer's talking about. It's you're not gonna fix something unless you see it's broken. And I think the biggest mistake they made were all these criminal charges against Trump. Because overseas, what I get is, what the hell is going on in America?
Speaker 2:And then Brazil goes, oh, that's a good idea. And they go to criminally charged Bolsonaro, Pakistan through the the former president in prison. I mean, if you're gonna you know, we're we're just like a banana republic at this point. I don't like what you're gonna say, so I put you in prison. The headlines today, they just they locked up 11 year old kid in London wanting to extradite people that speak against the British government no matter what country you're in.
Speaker 2:What is it? What? You think this is the British Empire again? You you have you control the entire world? I mean, this is why you're seeing this sort of activity.
Speaker 2:When government knows it's losing power, all right, they get much more aggressive, much more authoritarian. And this is what you're seeing in London. And unfortunately, you're beginning to see it here. And, you know, the cancel culture, I mean, you know, oh, you said something against COVID, take them off the air. You know what I mean?
Speaker 2:I don't know. I mean, I there is no free price anymore. You know, they it's a former VP of New York Post that told me the government calls, says we have a favor. Spin it this way, kill it or whatever. If you do not, they come after you personally.
Speaker 2:Oh, did you pay your taxes? You know, they don't go after the newspaper. They go after you personally. The guy that Snowden, you know, in LA was going to hand everything to suddenly drives his car into a tree. Who do you give this stuff to?
Speaker 2:The Guardian in London, because he couldn't give it to any American. Just wake up and see. I mean, unfortunately when they are losing power, they will do whatever it takes to try and hold it. And that's what I'm concerned about. So just be careful because September looks like it's percolating already.
Speaker 2:You may see the markets come down sharply, but they are they they've got troops there already in Moldavia and all over the place. They're almost sitting around the borders of Ukraine, formal troops. Mercenaries, they got them in there already. But look, this is they want to be able to do something. And if you look up history, you'll see that, FDR kept trying to get us into World War II, Congress refused.
Speaker 2:All the evidence suggests that he instigated Pearl Harbor. He did the same thing that we've done to Russia, froze all their assets in The United States, seized them, put an embargo. They used to get our energy from from The United States. Cut that all off. Then they said, well, they'll get it from someplace else.
Speaker 2:And he basically said, okay, fine. We're gonna put in an embargo to prevent you from buying energy from any place else. That's why they went after Pearl Harbor. And there was what I'm saying here isn't conspiracy theory. It was so prevalent.
Speaker 2:Look it up. It was a senate investigation did because then they found out that they knew they had already broken the Japanese code. So they knew the the the, fleet was coming. There was even a newspaper account the day before and said Japan's gonna attack. Alright?
Speaker 2:Somebody leaked it. But there was a senate investigation. Did FDR know? Did he use this to get us into World War two? The conclusion was, well, we're not sure he knew in advance.
Speaker 2:Very convenient. Of course.
Seth Holehouse:But Of course.
Speaker 2:Look. This is this is what they do. You know? He he got us he could not get us into there is a speech he gave in Boston that I did watch. And, you know, the Irish blamed the English for, you know, the potato famine and all that.
Speaker 2:And he was up there and they were vehemently against him. They did not want to get into World War II. They said after what the English did us, you want us to go over there and defend them? They said no way. He then promised in in Boston.
Speaker 2:Alright. Alright. No boots on the ground. Let me at least send arms. Okay?
Speaker 2:That was his promise in Boston. You can look that one up. So this is what they do. You know, that project Northwoods, let's kill some Americans and blame it on Cuba so we can invade. Most people that I know with common sense in this area, they expect some sort of a false flag.
Speaker 2:Blame it on Russia to justify going in. And Ukraine, you can also look it up. What Putin said in that Tucker interview was true. There was a peace deal. He pulled all his tanks away from Kyiv.
Speaker 2:And then Boris Johnson hopped on the on the plane, went over and told Zelenskyy, no. You're not allowed to sign a peace deal. Over 500,000 Ukrainians are dead since. That made the front page of of the Ukrainian Pravda newspaper there, and it has caused many Ukrainians to question whether or not they're in charge of their own country. And do a little bit more digging, And you'll see, yes, the head of his security guard is a personal friend who's Ukrainian.
Speaker 2:Who are most of his security guards? Americans. Why? Because he doesn't trust Ukrainians. They know that they've been set up.
Speaker 2:He suspends elections for the duration of the war. So he's a dictator. Alright. You can't remove me. You know?
Speaker 2:Oh, but we're fighting for democracy, you see. And then you have, Lindsey Graham, Meet the Press, and I guess he forgot the script. He suddenly came out and said there's 10 to $12,000,000,000,000 of assets and natural resources under Crimea. It's a gas field. We can't allow Russia and China to get that.
Speaker 2:I thought it was I thought this is democracy. You know? Oops. He said the truth for once. You know?
Speaker 2:Like Iraq. I mean, you know, it's over oil pipelines, whatever. So you're right. It's more and more people are waking up. They're starting to see this, and, they're questioning what's going on.
Seth Holehouse:Rightfully so. So, Martin, before we sign off, I wanna bring up your website for folks, armstrongeconomics.com. Great resource. You've got a lot of really good information on here. Anything else people can do to support you or follow what you're doing?
Speaker 2:You know, just go to the site. You don't have to register. We don't sell advertising. We try to keep it as an open spot. Don't need donations.
Speaker 2:Thank you. You know, anything like that. What we do for governments, we do not charge. We get any money from a government. There's always a string attached.
Speaker 2:So, we try to just stay as a open free source for everybody so you can look at everything and get to see what the what's really going on in the world.
Seth Holehouse:Well, great. Well, Martin, it's always a pleasure having you on. And, I I guess we'll see. I mean, I think regardless of what happens, it's gonna be a wild time ahead of us. So, yeah, it's Yeah.
Speaker 2:This this election is is off the charts. Just be careful about September. If they're gonna start something, it may be starting right now ahead of the election, certainly before January. We live in very challenging times.
Seth Holehouse:Yeah, we do, we do. Well, Martin, thank you very much. Take care and God bless.
Speaker 2:Well, thank you for inviting me. Take care.
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