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"Everybody wants to eat, but Few Will Hunt." Why did Joey and Drew choose action over comfort? Why does the world need a community built on hard work? In this episode, Joey and Drew sit down with Mark Phillips and Ryan Seager from the Masters of Resilience podcast to dive into the origin story of Few Will Hunt, the power of faith over fear, and how building a true community starts with purpose, not profit. They share how a simple mindset led to a global movement, the real story behind their first piece of merchandise, how they scaled from a blog to a seven-figure brand, and the importance of authenticity and grit in a world obsessed with shortcuts. From overcoming fear through daily action to raising the next generation with real values, this conversation is packed with raw lessons and earned wisdom. Tune in to learn what it really takes to build a brand rooted in community, stay resilient through failure, and choose faith over fear every single day.
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The official podcast of Few Will Hunt, the world’s largest community of hard workers and Made in the USA apparel brand. Family-owned and operated and headquartered in Philadelphia. We’re on a mission to restore the dignity of hard work and help others live The Rules of The Few to strengthen ourselves and strengthen society. No entitlement or excuses are allowed here.
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Drew Beech
Drew Beech is an entrepreneur and cofounder of Few Will Hunt. He spent several years in the sales and marketing industry, grossing over several million dollars in sales. But his love for the entrepreneurial journey and desire to escape the rate race started with his personal training business in college. Today, Drew leads the Few Will Hunt community alongside his cousin and cofounder, Joey in their mission to restore the dignity of hard work through the highest-quality American-made apparel.
What is The Few Will Hunt Show?
The official podcast of Few Will Hunt, the world’s largest community of hard workers and 100% Made in the USA apparel brand. We’re on a mission to restore the dignity of hard work and help others live The Rules of The Few to strengthen ourselves and strengthen society. No entitlement or excuses are allowed here.
Welcome to the Fuel Hunt Show.
Speaker 2:What's going on, Eagles? Welcome to the Fuel Hunt Show. I'm Joey, and this week we have something special for you. Two of our fellow community members, Mark Phillips and Ryan Seager, invited us onto their podcast, The Masters of Resilience. The episode ended up being so great that we wanted to share it here with you as this week's episode of the Fuel Hunt Show.
Speaker 2:We talk about the origins of Fuel Hunt, choosing faith over fear, and how Drew and I built Fuel Hunt, the community and the counter movement, with its mission to restore the dignity of hard work in ourselves and in society. I know you're gonna love it. Check it out.
Speaker 3:Let's talk a little bit about Fuel Hunt, what you guys stand for, how it started, who the the few are, which I know we'll get into. I'd love to hear that story as we get started.
Speaker 2:Yeah. For sure. Yeah. I can give you an idea of the origin story. Really, what we were it was born out of feeling alone and feeling aggravated.
Speaker 2:But, you know, Drew and I and really this we come from, we're the type of people that we don't let things happen to us. We kinda happen to things. Right? Like True. We'd rather take action than complain.
Speaker 2:So there's how many years apart are we, Drew? Ten?
Speaker 1:Yeah. Roughly.
Speaker 2:Yeah. But so we're ten years apart. We're cousins, but we're ten years apart. I crossed a lot of bridges professionally that Drew is about to cross in his career. So we used to spend a lot of time on our commutes to and from the office on the phone.
Speaker 2:I say a lot of time. It was like a solid year every day, at least on the way home from the office, we'd be on the phone together. And we started to notice really two themes in our offices, in our neighborhoods, and really in society as a whole. Right? The first thing was people were becoming more and more entitled to what they hadn't earned.
Speaker 2:And the second was that if they were interested in earning, they were seeking more and more shortcuts to get there. Right? Which they're like death sentences. In in our minds and in our, you know, our families, like, they are things you don't do. You know?
Speaker 2:You don't expect things that you didn't earn. And when you do choose to earn things, you take the hard way. You do it right. You know? Because along that that hard path, there's a ton of gifts, like service to others, but also building skills for self.
Speaker 2:So, we saw those two themes, and we were, like, super frustrated. And after a year of talking about the same thing over and over again on the phone and seeing the same themes, we said to ourselves, we're like, we we need to do something about this. And, you know, the mantra, everybody wants to eat but fuel hunt, is something that I said on the phone one day because it was in response to Drew. He was like, look. Like, are we the only two people that believe in in the power of hard work still?
Speaker 2:You know, we're we're surrounded by, you know, the victim mentality, entitlement, ego driven work. Right? Shortcuts. Like, are we the only two people left? And I was like, look.
Speaker 2:It's like we say in my hunting cabin. Like, everybody wants to eat, but few will hunt. Everybody wants to win. Few want to work. You know?
Speaker 2:Everybody wants the results. Few want the reps. And that's when Drew was like, wait. Hold on. Back, like, back the truck up.
Speaker 2:Like Mhmm. I think you you know, what what did you say? Like, I I think we need to we we gotta put that on a shirt or something. And it was it was the irony in it is apparel didn't come till two years later. But, what we decided in that moment was that we were going to, which sounds crazy, and it always does in the beginning, build the world's largest community of hard workers.
Speaker 2:And we were gonna put society back on track. We were gonna find people that believed in our core values and worked as we did, and we were just gonna build an entire community of them to show the world that, we were still here and selfishly, right, so that we didn't feel so alone. So that that's the that's the origin story. Like I said, that that was 02/2017. For two years, we just built community.
Speaker 2:Literally, we looked for people and drew people in that believed in what we believed in and worked the way we worked. And then in 02/2019, that's when, our community, which was, I don't know, that time, maybe ten, fifteen thousand people, they started to ask. They're like, look. I would wear that on a shirt, or you should make hats, or, like, where are your stickers? And then that is what set really the the company in motion because our roots are community.
Speaker 3:So how do you get that first ten thousand people bought into what you guys are doing?
Speaker 2:Yeah. Great question. Content, kinda like we're we're talking to her before this. Gotcha.
Speaker 1:It felt like the longest, slowest burn. Like, I don't know if it's comparable to like, I mean, in your guys' line of work, but when you guys start when you're starting out in business, it's like there's always that hope that you can hit that first deal and you might be able to like pay your bills. You know what I mean? Like, and no one would even talk like back to what no one talks about. Like, one talks about the hard part of starting out in business when you get your logo, you get your polo shirts made, your business card, and you sit down at your desk and you're like, yep.
Speaker 1:And then you have to cross the Sahara to get your your first deal. You know what I mean? Like Yeah. That's right. It's and it just feels like the first one thousand, ten thousand, and now we're at, like, 200,000 almost, but, like, every incremental piece of growth felt like it took the Sahara all over again.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So we I did credit to Gary Vee who's one of the originators of of the space and the personal development as we know it. Yep. But he had this framework, jab, jab, jab, right hook. And he always talked about value, value, value, deliver value, deliver value, we still to this day do painfully even when it drives us in the red.
Speaker 1:But we were like, let's just continue to provide our community value and it'll all work out for us one day. So we were just jabbing, jabbing, jabbing, jabbing. No right hooks. And we're like, we had these awesome shirts which are like, they just said everybody wants to leave a few hundred on them with a not great design or whatever. We we thought we thought people would be so moved by the mantra, they would wanna buy them no matter how it was designed.
Speaker 1:Right? But, like, now we know there's an actual there actually has to be graphic design done and illustration to get people to want to wear it. But we're like, why are why are people not buying our shirts? Like, these things should be even like hotcakes, why do we not have a like, why are people not actually purchasing this stuff? And we realized eventually at some point along that journey that we actually had to ask people to buy this stuff.
Speaker 1:It's like That's a miracle. Yeah. Like, in your line of work. Right? Imagine never asking someone if they wanted to buy insurance.
Speaker 3:Right. Yeah. Right. So if
Speaker 4:What was the what was the right hook, Drew? I'm waiting on I thought that was gonna come to some punchline. What was
Speaker 1:the first right
Speaker 4:hook for you guys?
Speaker 1:So we're like, alright. We're not having any sales. Me and Joey, the one day we we we famously talk about is he said, we have to decide. Do we have a blogger business? Like, we gonna actually get out of our full time jobs and figure out how to do this full time or whatnot?
Speaker 1:We had no idea how to run ads, but we we saw Instagram had this boost post feature. And we hit, we had this banner picture that someone someone bought a banner that we has just gone on our site, like not by our direction, they bought one of our banner. We had like a t shirt, a hat, and a banner on there. Mhmm. The guy posted the picture of the banner, we saved it, reposted it, and then hit boost post, run ad, and orders just started filing in for this banner.
Speaker 1:It had no no call to action, no like buy bits. It just had like, we are the few and had a banner. And we call it like the faucet. And it was like, yo, should we should we put $50 to this ad again and see if we get more sales? I'm like, yeah.
Speaker 1:Fuck it. Let's do it.
Speaker 3:Like Amazing.
Speaker 1:$50 at the time felt like thousands.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Like, we were like, should we do it? We're like, yeah. Let's fucking like, let's run the risk. And then people were like, started buying this stuff. So that's how we stumbled into paid ads, which now we know Yeah.
Speaker 1:Is is one of the keys to scaling an ecommerce.
Speaker 2:But Yeah.
Speaker 3:For sure. So once you get that momentum yeah. I think momentum is such a such a powerful thing. So when you have momentum there, how do you what would you find successful in keeping that going?
Speaker 2:The so the yeah. I mean, the crazy thing is, like, you know, you're talking about maybe sales momentum or commerce momentum. We had a ton of goodwill and community momentum before that. Right? 02/2017 to 02/2019, we're writing a blog, long form content.
Speaker 2:We're talking about, you know, what it means to work hard, how difficult it can really be, how dark it can really be, but there's always light. You know, giving people hope and also giving people mental frameworks to help them work hard each day. Right? Talking about reframing, you know, things like that. Right?
Speaker 2:So we had a lot of momentum leading up to it. Once we found the faucet and, you know, we were able to turn that on and off, Then something happened. The world went bonkers. That was 2020. Right?
Speaker 2:So now we're like, okay. Everyone is shrinking. Everybody is looking for safety. There's a lot of uncertainty. You know, what do we do now?
Speaker 2:And Drew and I were like, well, you know, f it. We're just gonna mash on the gas. So we ended up hiring a consultant to help us with ads. Because at that time, we really didn't know what we didn't know. We were just boosting posts.
Speaker 2:And if yous are familiar with ads, it's way more than that. Right? So we hired a consultant and made that investment in 2020 to keep the momentum going. So all that momentum we we build and the cash we built from the faucet that was coming in, we immediately turned and invested in a a consultant to help us scale. And then that is what took us to 7 figures.
Speaker 2:Quote, unquote, I just spoke at BK Live, and and everybody got a kick out of it when I did the air quotes on stage, and I said over quote, unquote, overnight, we scaled to 7 figures because, you know, we were able to make that investment in in paid ads to keep that going. Yeah.
Speaker 4:Joey, as you were talking about the origin story, I I thought something you said was really interesting, which is you attributed your and Drew's family of origin to this mentality of hard work. And I'm really fascinated by the idea of like, why are some people wired the way that they are? And why do some people come into the world kind of expecting the world to make it work for them? So is there something about your family of origin that really gave you and Drew this mental fortitude to build something like this with this mentality?
Speaker 2:I I believe so. I think that, you know, most of the best lessons in life are caught not taught. And there was we're from blue collar families. So, like, all eyewitness like, I tell this story often. My parents never sat me down at the dinner table.
Speaker 2:Actually, our dinners were silent because everybody was so exhausted. Right? They never sat me down at the dinner table and said, hey. This is what hard work is, and that's why you should do it. They led by example.
Speaker 2:I saw my mom work two jobs. I saw my dad work two jobs, sometimes three. So growing up, I'm like, well, this is what I do. You know? This is who I am.
Speaker 2:You know? And I saw them take us from, you know, bad neighborhoods to better neighborhoods. Like, it was just through observation that I picked it up. And then later on in life, you know, as I got older, you know, then then they kinda sat me down and were like, hey. Look.
Speaker 2:These are the things we did when you were younger that you didn't see, like, the hard work. You know? So for me, that plays a big part in it. I guess that's my generation. I'm, I don't even know how old I am.
Speaker 2:42? Remember me? 43? I think that, you know, now with the the younger generations, you know, entitlement plays a big part. There was a a decade or so of time where society was really praising what was basically required, showing up to work, you know, doing the work put in front of you.
Speaker 2:And there was a lot of praise given for that, I think, because we were just trying to correct some societal things, and we maybe didn't realize what was gonna happen, but it created a wave of entitlement. And, you know, that is it's starting to seep into homes and everything, and that's one of the reasons why we're here. You know? Mhmm.
Speaker 3:I know you guys have put out a plethora of content, which, you know, I've I know I've been the benefactor of over the years, and and so I can appreciate that. So just a couple themes that that come to mind for me, one of which is is action kills fear, and inaction feeds it. Mhmm.
Speaker 1:I'd love
Speaker 3:to talk about that a little bit too because I think sometimes we get in we get stuck in this groove of, you know, paralysis by analysis or whatever, your delay or or procrastination, call it whatever you want. But what role has that played for you guys?
Speaker 2:Yeah. In building Fuel Hunt?
Speaker 3:Yeah. In building Fuel Hunt and in getting things you know, continuing that momentum.
Speaker 2:In the in the early years, we're still young. Right? We're seven years old, you know, as a as a, as a community, as a company. But in the early years, Drew and I did something that if I could toot our horn for a second, was was really beneficial to us, and that was every day when we were on the phone because we were working full time jobs while we were building Fuel Hunt Up until a point. Right?
Speaker 2:So every day when we were on the phone, we agreed, that we were each going to take one action that evening to further the community or the company. Right? So there was a ton of uncertainty. It was during, you know, COVID. Could we even do this?
Speaker 2:We've never run ecom companies before. You know what I mean? Like but we decided that every night we were going to take at least one action, and we're gonna hold each other accountable on that to to basically keep the ball moving down the field. You know? So Drew used to call it staying in motion.
Speaker 2:Like, we're in motion. Let's stay in motion. Stay in motion. Hard to stop when you're in motion. So we really didn't let inaction seep in.
Speaker 2:And even to this day, like I mean, you just know. I mean, it it's not all lollipops and rainbows running a an organization, a company. But one thing that you can never do is free. Like, the moment you freeze, the fear takes over. So you have to keep moving.
Speaker 2:You have to keep moving and keep taking action. Drew, you have any thoughts on that?
Speaker 1:Just to add on that too, because, like, in life and in business, like, there's always gonna be hard situations. Right? Like, there's there's conversations you don't wanna have. You you don't know if you're gonna make payroll, your bank account's getting low, and you you start to stop checking it. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1:Like, and and to avoid the pain. But if you instead of avoiding it, like, that's not gonna make the problem go away. You know what I mean? Like Mhmm. Taking taking action to solve the problems is what actually makes them go away.
Speaker 1:So I've grown accustomed to just rather than avoiding the hard conversations or the hard tasks, I actually, like, like to tackle them first.
Speaker 3:We
Speaker 2:we talk a lot, and you see a lot of themes on on in on social media about, you know, barriers. Right? Like, you know, whether it's anxiety or it's fear or it's I think when you boil it all down, it's avoidance. Like, that is really the root of all of the ills. Like, you know, we we avoid, you know, getting up early to face the day, hitting a snooze button.
Speaker 2:We avoid, you know, maybe some past wounds we have, you know, from childhood with drugs or alcohol. Right? We we avoid difficult conversations or stress with, you know, hiding. You know what I mean? Like, it's all boils back to avoidance.
Speaker 2:So, like, that's the way I look at it at least. Like, if there's something I'm avoiding, I need to take act action immediately. Mhmm. Because action is the only thing that will kill all of the bad shit comes from avoidance. Even if it's imperfect action, even if it's just like if you're familiar with, like, Brian Tracy and eat the frog or whatever.
Speaker 2:You know? Like Mhmm. You know, if there's two frogs, like, you know, even if you just take a bite out of one, like, you just gotta you gotta you gotta do something. Yep. You know?
Speaker 2:You you just must.
Speaker 4:Does the fear go away?
Speaker 1:That that's a very interesting topic that came up on the converse on the podcast with one of our friends, Pat Brady, a couple weeks ago.
Speaker 2:Mhmm.
Speaker 1:I said he talked about faith and having faith and how he's he has this aura about him because he just knows that his person, whether it's God or whoever you believe in, right, like he's got him, like he's got him taken care of. Because I was like, you speak so confident that everything's gonna work out. And I said, I or my wife the other day, we were talking, and was like, you just think everything's always gonna work out for us. She's like, yeah, like, it is. And I was like, I wake up every day or don't lose sleep because I'm worried that the world's gonna get pulled out from under or the rugs get pulled out from under us.
Speaker 1:Like, that's why I work so hard because I don't wanna and I don't Mhmm. Want everything to be taken away from us. So for me personally, I don't know, and I talk to other entrepreneurs that feel the same. Right? Like I don't know how you guys feel, but I work like someone is trying to take it from me twenty four seven because I believe that they are.
Speaker 1:Right? Whereas I feel like I could shift that mentality for me personally because we're never perfect. Right? Like Mhmm. Even us being the few honk guys, we do have flaws and we have things we're working on every day and that's why we post those things every day because we know that there are thoughts, feelings, and emotions that we've reflected on and put out into the world to help our community grow and get better, as we're actively looking to grow and get better.
Speaker 1:So I think one thing I could do personally is to have more faith in myself and in the work, rather than working, like you said, Mark, about like in fear. So for me personally, the fear has not gone away yet, but I would like to say through faith in my actions and my work that it will.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I agree. I don't I don't think the fear ever I don't think the fear ever goes away. I mean, at least for me personally, it's it's never gone away. It's what it is is it's grip.
Speaker 2:So it's it's grip is not as tight on me as it once was, but it's there. So, like, before, I would feel like, you know, the fear kinda, like, had me by the neck. Now it's the hand on my shoulder. Like, I know it's there, and it's still in contact with me. But on a daily basis, I'm I'm choosing faith over fear.
Speaker 2:You know? And that's one of the it's one of the the the reasons and the meanings behind that line that we released. Faith, you know, can mean different things to different people. But, you know, at the end of the day, you have to set aside your ego and say, hey. Look.
Speaker 2:Like, I'm doing everything in my control, but I cannot control everything, and we all didn't just appear here. There's probably a higher power at play that has a plan. So I'm gonna make my best laid plan. I'm gonna work hard. I'm gonna work hard as shit on my plan.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna control what I can, but at the same time, I'm gonna have faith that that work is going to translate into a greater plan and take it go. You know?
Speaker 3:I think the experience aspect too. You know, when you look back, I think the the just the the component the role time plays in that too. It's like, okay. The longer I do this, the more I've the more things I've faced. Yeah.
Speaker 3:The fear to your point, Joe, that the fear doesn't go away, but I'm like, I've I've faced obstacles before, and I've figured out a way over them, around them, under them, somehow, some way. And so I know as you become a more resourceful human, inevitably, you find a way to figure it out.
Speaker 2:For sure. I have a funny saying that when we're going through some hard shit here, sometimes I get chuckled, sometimes I don't, but I say, we have a 100% survival rate as we're we're above ground. Like, we got a % survival rate. We're gonna make this we're gonna make this happen.
Speaker 4:That's good. Joe, man, guys, thank you for sharing too. Just to go back to that conversation of fear, Ryan and I talk about it often, and we approach it from that faith perspective. Faith has been a big part of our journeys. And I building a business has been one of the most faith testing experiences of my life.
Speaker 4:No Yes. Nothing short of that. It's probably marriage and faith are probably the two or excuse me, and business are probably the two things that have tested the I love that faith over fear comment, Joey.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 4:And I have a quote. There's a guy named Erwin McManus who's actually a pastor of a church out in LA called Mosaic. And he says, if you're afraid of heights, you'll stay low. If you're afraid of people, you stay alone. If you're afraid of the dark, you stay in the light.
Speaker 4:Your fear establishes the boundaries of your freedom.
Speaker 1:I love that.
Speaker 4:And it's like, it's all right there. And that analogy of you feel that fear. Even as a person of faith, I don't think we're called to not have fear. I think fear is going to come and it's an emotion we will feel and we would need to process it. I think Yep.
Speaker 4:Stifling it or pushing it down is a real recipe for disaster as well. Like, honor it. Honor that emotion.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Oh, for sure.
Speaker 4:I and then move forward.
Speaker 2:Like, stifling it and pushing it away is also you know, my my faith entrepreneurship has tested my faith, and my faith has grown over the years because of it, and I'm grateful for that. When you stifle fear or when you push it away or you you act like it's not there, you're actually you're actually refusing to trust in your higher power. You're you're refusing to accept the gift, you know what I mean, of of support that your higher power wants to give you. You know? And, like, I I just and I I did that for years.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean? I did that for years. And then Drew will tell you, like, you know, the past twelve to eighteen months have been transformative for me with with my faith. Mhmm. And I dude, I grew up I I worked in a church.
Speaker 2:I was a saccristian, you know, altar boy. Like, I was, like, in it. Then Yeah. Kinda lost my way a little bit. And in the past twelve to eighteen months, like, I'm back, maybe.
Speaker 4:That's cool. Man.
Speaker 2:Love that. Think that, you know, entrepreneurship has has played a big part in that.
Speaker 4:Yeah. To open
Speaker 2:open my eyes again.
Speaker 4:You know? Well, there is a there is a fundamental disconnect between religion and experiential faith. Yeah. Those are two very, very
Speaker 2:different things.
Speaker 3:And I think
Speaker 4:a lot and religion has, you know, it it has a place in our society, but a lot of people have had frustrations with it, and I think rightfully so. But Yeah. I hate Joey, I I resonate so deeply, man. It's been it it is so it is a gift when the work you get to do and that you love also test the things that kind of motivate you as well.
Speaker 2:So it's super cool.
Speaker 3:For sure.
Speaker 2:I
Speaker 1:had this It's just been so it's it's been so easy that he's had time to sit and reflect on his face.
Speaker 4:Right. Just doing a lot of reading, a lot of meditation and prayer. Yeah. Exactly.
Speaker 3:Only solitude. It's
Speaker 1:how Yeah. It's exactly. Exactly.
Speaker 2:I was I was so I'll be I was so pumped to see the reception of our faith over fear, our faith not fear line when we put it out. I held on to it for a little while, to be honest. Mhmm. I wasn't sure how it would be received. But when we put it out there, literally, it touched so many people.
Speaker 2:And, you know, the put the devil in the dirt and remember this is what you prayed for. It just resonated with such a large part of our community. I was like, yeah, man. Let's go. So you'll you'll see more of that, from us moving forward.
Speaker 4:Powerful.
Speaker 3:Yeah. So good. Let's talk a little bit about community too, because I know the few is is a big emphasis on community and finding that for what you know, whatever that may be for for a given people. But how has that been for you guys in terms of it being a pillar in what you're how you built your business?
Speaker 2:I mean, that's that's what we are. I mean, even when I started the show, when you know? I always say we're community first. We all we we that's how we started, and that's how we always will be. We did things differently.
Speaker 2:Right? Like, I think nowadays, especially in the world of e com and especially with some of the generational things we're dealing with, a lot of people start businesses, and they they say, you know, I wanna make a shitload of money. There's nothing wrong with that. But I gotta sell something to do that. So what am I gonna sell?
Speaker 2:And then they say, okay. This thing I'm gonna sell, who's gonna buy my my shit? You know? Who are they? And then they find the people.
Speaker 2:And then somewhere down the road, they staple on, like, a purpose. And they say, oh, and by the way, this is why, like, this is why I'm doing this. You know? And I you know, I'm not trying to generalize. It's not everybody, but I see it a lot specifically in the ecomm space.
Speaker 2:We did it the other way around. Like, we knew why we were here. We're like, we're gonna build the world's largest community of hard workers. We're gonna put society back on track. We're gonna restore the dignity of hard work.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean? We're gonna rally a community around our three pillars, freedom, hard work, service to others, those three things. So we knew our purpose. Right? And then we found our people.
Speaker 2:Right? And that's the community. And then later came the product and, you know, the the profit. So community is is our core. It's it's our heart.
Speaker 2:It's who we are, who we always will be. And that makes us different. That's our differentiator.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Yeah. So if if if someone's listening to this not not sure they they strive for that, but not not sure how to start. What would you say?
Speaker 2:So we, you know, in reflection over the years, we have, you know, five things that we do and we do really well, and that's what helped us build the community that we have. So, you know, I always say first, number one, numero uno, is make sure that you're doing this for the right reasons, and the right reason is service to others. You know? Your purpose has to be rooted in serving many. It sounds like you guys probably and I'm I'm not a theologian by any means.
Speaker 2:I'm an amateur when it comes to the bible, but it seems like you guys may be familiar with it. You look that up you look up in the bible how to get everything you want, how to be great, and they say it says, find a way to serve many. Yeah. Right? So numero uno, I would say, sure that you have a why that serves many, truly.
Speaker 2:And then after that, then you can kinda get into, like, the five c's that that we do, which is confront, converse, challenge, cheer, and then convert. You know, they're the they're the five c's. So confront meaning, like, you gotta stand for something. Right? So what is it what is the the dragon that you're going to confront and rally people around?
Speaker 2:Right? First, you're gonna talk about it every single day, what it means to stand for x, y, or z. Right? Then you're gonna challenge your people. You know, we do the 30 for 30 challenge in our community.
Speaker 2:You know? And then, you know, we also have, like, a one for one challenge, all sorts of stuff. You're gonna challenge your people. Then you're gonna cheer them, you know, when they participate. You're gonna cheer their wins.
Speaker 2:You're gonna cheer their losses because they're on the path. And then and only then if you have something for them where they can exchange their hard earned dollars, then you can talk about convert or conversion. You know? That's that's kind of how we've how we've run. You know?
Speaker 2:And we didn't know what we were doing in the beginning, but after a few, you know, reflection now over the years, that's been the pattern. So
Speaker 3:what is that conversion, that last c? What is that Yeah. That's great. On that a little bit.
Speaker 2:So that's that's the physical product or service that you would have, you know, that your community can exchange their hard earned dollars for. Because, look, like, you know, communities, if we are not profitable, we are not here. Like, we don't exist. You know? So we came to that realization early on that if we want this to have the impact that we want it to have, we need income.
Speaker 2:You know?
Speaker 1:That is
Speaker 2:Yeah, Drew. Go ahead.
Speaker 1:The one thing I was gonna mention is that a lot of people have community nowadays. It seems that every brand or company is surrounding their mission or their message with with community, and I think authenticity is lacked in, our space and a lot of spaces as well. But that being said, there is a necessity for planning. We started out to, we set out to create the largest community of hard workers when we should've also had a plan how to execute that profitably. Because if you don't, like Joey said, if you don't have a profitable business, you don't have a community.
Speaker 1:Yep. Like, no, you can't survive off of vibes, vibrations. You know what I mean? So
Speaker 4:Drew, what does authenticity mean to you?
Speaker 1:That's a really good question, but in my opinion. So Instagram nowadays specifically is filled with a highlight reel. Right? It's a lot of people's best versions of themselves on their best days. And it can have a lot of people feeling like they're not good enough or Mhmm.
Speaker 1:Don't fit in. And that is also applicable to brands and companies and their message. Whereas we are giving you the real hard facts and truths that other brands may be watering down their messages or saying they have a community when actually they just wanna sell you their product. So I think there's a fine line and it's up to us to decipher what's true, real, and authentic and what's not. And also not getting, and this is something we work on too, but not getting down on yourself when you feel like you're not good enough because we see other brand, we've seen other brands that have come up in their community, their and it looks like they're doing great on the outside, but we've surpassed them and lasted longer.
Speaker 1:Like you said, Ryan, like staying in the game longer. You know I mean? There's a % survival rate, but because we all we've seen is their metrics and their numbers and what they post on Instagram where what might actually not be the truth, whereas that applies to our personal brand as well.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Yeah. The the authenticity is you know, I I made a comment about you know, when I talked about cheering, cheering wins and losses. And I I think that that's that's at the root of authenticity for a human being able to build the best version of you with the intention of giving it away to the world. But along that route, it's going both your wins and your losses.
Speaker 2:You know? None. There ain't no wins. There's there's no wins without the losses. You know?
Speaker 2:No w's without l's. Like, the l's are required. So, like, we are how how how egotistical are we at times to think that, like, we can just show everybody wins and not show them what it really took to get there. You know what I mean? Like, how in egotistical is that?
Speaker 2:You know what I mean? And, like, we all do it. I do it. We all do it. But, like, when you really step back from it, it's like, man, like, really thought you could be successful in whatever adventure it is without, like, the pain, without the failure, without the loss?
Speaker 2:Right. Like, how egotistical is that? You know?
Speaker 1:Crazy. No one no one regardless of what it says on Instagram or TikTok or whatever, no one is winning all the time. Mm-mm. Right? But it seems that way.
Speaker 1:I'm like, damn. Do I suck? Like
Speaker 3:Am I just a really bad you know, the singer, what's the deal here?
Speaker 1:Yeah. Am I bad at everything? Like, why are all these people crushing life twenty four seven?
Speaker 3:Yeah. Yeah. There was a quote there was a quote on I think it was James Clear's Thursday newsletter, and and I texted it to Mark because I'm like, you know, you're trying like, what are we you know, making sure we're clear on what we're about here at at Masters of Resilience and same thing with you guys. I think there's lot of parallels to this quote, but he said one of the things that he said was stories of failure resonate more than stories of success. Few people reach the top, but everyone has failed, including those who eventually succeed.
Speaker 3:If you're teaching people to succeed in a given field or talking about your own success, start with how you failed. I was like, honestly, it's like the most relatable thing for people because you do through to your point, you you get this this these Instagram reels of, you know, the best fifteen seconds of my life in the last day or whatever it is, and it's like, that's not a reality. That's not a reality. So I think when we speak into the failures and the hard, like those are the things that I think people are craving.
Speaker 2:Mhmm. For sure.
Speaker 1:To that to that point, that's we actually had a a friend of mine, Aaron Hind, the CEO of Life Aid on our podcast a few weeks ago. And he told us, which I didn't, I've known him for a while and he told the story of his come up story, he actually bought a bunch of houses in the, before the real estate market crashed and had to file bankruptcy. This guy's the CEO of a multi million dollar company, doing great now, but actually had to Mhmm. File bankruptcy at one point in his life. And the fact that he bounced back from that just shows you that we're not all like, on the outside, he was a thriving chiropractor with a great business, but ended up not being the case, but he didn't let that hold him back from what he became in the future.
Speaker 2:Yeah. There's our maybe you guys can guess, but our number one mantra in our community and also happens to be our number one best selling tea in the in the world, really. You guys wanna take a guess or you want me to spoil the surprise for you?
Speaker 3:Comfort is a slow death, I'm guessing.
Speaker 2:That that is correct. Comfort is a slow death. Nice. Pain. Prefer pain.
Speaker 2:That's right. Why do you think that is? It's because pain is an adhesive.
Speaker 4:What do you mean adhesive, Joey?
Speaker 2:So not only does it make you whole, but it brings people together. You know? It's you have a really hard day at the office. I know a lot of people that wanna just go and, you know, bang and clang at the gym. You know?
Speaker 2:Put themselves under some pressure. You know? Do something hard. It's it's it can close your wounds, and it's also very relatable. So that people that have gone through pain and have pain in their past that are working to turn it, to translate it, to transmute it into power in the present and the future, those people coming together in community, right, accelerates everybody's
Speaker 3:progress.
Speaker 2:So so it's an adhesive. It it not only can heal your own wounds, but it can bring you together with others and actually accelerate your progress. You know? We still have people that will clown that mantra. Like, if we run, you know, just paid traffic and a new audience or something, we'll have some commenters like, oh, prefer pain.
Speaker 2:Like, I enjoy my couch. Like, you know, things like that.
Speaker 1:Or you didn't, like, sell that to my herniated discs. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Alright, dude. And, like, I
Speaker 3:think we're missing it here. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I don't wanna go too far on the the biohacking health train, but, like, maybe if you did a little more extra research and got uncomfortable, you could know there's ways to alleviate that back pain. Yeah.
Speaker 3:You could go down a hole. We could do all our guess on that.
Speaker 1:I be that guy, though.
Speaker 2:My Pain pain is literally the greatest teacher, and I feel like if you have experienced that in your life, you understand immediately when you see that mantra. When you see that role of you, when you see that tea, you get it. Mhmm. You're like, wait a second. They're my people.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Good, man. I get it. Yeah. You know?
Speaker 4:Yeah. C. S. Lewis has a quote on pain, going back to the the god discussion. He says, god whispers to us in our pleasures.
Speaker 4:He speaks in our conscience, but shouts in our pain.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 4:It is his megaphone to rouse a deaf world.
Speaker 2:Yep. Yeah. I love I love I love that quote. Yeah. I love that quote.
Speaker 2:A lot of power What is it? Entrepreneurship, jujitsu, all sorts
Speaker 1:of stuff.
Speaker 4:It's out of control. Hey. What does that mean for us as fathers? And and what we do with our kids?
Speaker 2:Yeah. Comfort, slow death, and pain, and all that good stuff.
Speaker 4:All that good stuff.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Yeah, man. I mean, yeah, we could even we could even make a lot of ties to to parenthood too. Right? I mean Yeah.
Speaker 2:That is, you know, in in many ways, it's complete self sacrifice, I think. You know? It's you make a decision that you are going to sacrifice everything and give the best of everything you have to grow another little human. And Yeah. You know, there's material, you know, implications to that that can sometimes be painful if you've ever paid a day care bill.
Speaker 2:But I think on the we've had multiple. You guys probably have had multiple day care at the same time. But then, you know, there's also on on the flip side of it, you know, uncomfortable things that you need to do on a daily basis to make sure you're raising them right. You know? Emotional regulation.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean? Being being the example and leading by example, not using too many words. You know? Like, there's a lot of uncomfortable things that need to be done on a on a daily basis to to make sure that you're equipping your children for to do the hard work in a soft world, we'll say. Mhmm.
Speaker 1:I really think it's only applicable for the few or guys like us that are working hard to actually be good parents. Like, is it really painful for people that don't really try because
Speaker 3:Mhmm.
Speaker 1:I I again, now being so I'm I'm involved in youth sports, but you just see the behavior of some of these kids. Right? And I'm just like, back to what Joey was saying about being from blue collar families, just knowing what's tolerated. Mhmm. And you see the way some of these kids act on the ball field.
Speaker 2:Mhmm.
Speaker 1:And I'm like, my mom would have came on that baseball field and literally grabbed me by the ear and if she saw me acting like this.
Speaker 4:That's so good.
Speaker 1:I think it it really become, like Joey said, painful to draw the parallel there if you're really actually trying to be a good father or leader for your family. Right? Because a lot of people choose comfort. They just have kids for themselves rather than to build other great humans.
Speaker 2:Yeah. It's it's easy, man. Like, you you have a hard day, like, it's it's really comfortable to come home and just sit on the couch and, like, let your child, like, fend for themselves with their homework. And, like, what do they send in mediocre homework? Like, learn mediocre lessons?
Speaker 2:Like, see a bunch of average ass behavior every day. Nah. Like, I can't wait. Like, if I'm sick, I'm still they're gonna see me getting up, going you know what I mean? Coming to HQ.
Speaker 2:They're gonna see me training. They're gonna come with me to jujitsu. Like Yeah. They're gonna see all the hard stuff. You know what I mean?
Speaker 2:I don't I never want them to see me be an average ever.
Speaker 4:Dang.
Speaker 3:You know
Speaker 2:what I mean? Even average, like I'm saying, emotional emotional regulation. Like, I don't want them like, you know, dude, I'm not perfect. Like, I lose my temper sometimes. Like, that kills me because I'm like, man, like, I just gave them an average ass reaction.
Speaker 2:Like, that is some average shit. And I have, you know, two daughters. And, you know, how can I word it? They're they're going to the the behavior they see in me is the behavior they're gonna seek one day in another man. You know?
Speaker 2:I'm the example. So if I'm I'm doing all this average ass shit, who are they gonna end up with? Like, it's gonna be acceptable for them to choose somebody that's just average later on in life. You know? That's you know, it's hard.
Speaker 2:Day in, day out, you guys know. Your dads, you know.
Speaker 1:A former sales director of mine and a formidable person in my life said to me when I was about to have my son, he said, anyone can be a dad, but not everyone can be a father. And that
Speaker 3:Oh, yeah.
Speaker 1:It's always always stuck with me even, like, since since day one. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Hell yeah. Hell yeah.
Speaker 3:I think just owning it too. Like, I think owning some of the I mean, I've I I would lose track if I even started to count how many times I've, you know, reacted and not responded to kids. But even just the other day, you know, you're like, you you blow up. And I think it's just saying, hey. You know what?
Speaker 3:You may be a five year old, but he needs to see me own up to a shortcoming. Be like, you know what, buddy? I'm sorry I did that. You know, I was wrong. And and I think that's an important skill for them to learn.
Speaker 2:Oh, for sure.
Speaker 1:For For There's been 24. I've been like, yeah. Well, do my bad. Like, you didn't deserve that.
Speaker 2:That's my bitch. I yeah. That was
Speaker 1:on that was on me, dude. That's right.
Speaker 2:I just I just did it this morning. We have we have something going on, like, in the house. We do we do a lot of stuff in the house. You know? Fuel hunt type stuff.
Speaker 2:You know? My asshole. But one thing I just put in play is, a point system. Right? Because my girls are, like, super competitive.
Speaker 2:Right? I'm competitive. My wife's competitive. So, like, you know, if they're kind to somebody or they do some hard work, you know, they gain points. Points translate to dollars.
Speaker 2:Dollars do things. Whatever they want. They wanna buy some and whatever. A
Speaker 1:dangerous game, Cuff.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So so what I did though when I started it was like, I was like the bestower of the points. You know what I'm saying? And like two weeks into it, was like, man, I'm doing this wrong. I was like, you should be able to give me points and take my points away too.
Speaker 2:Nice. Now they can do that to me. So now it's reciprocal. You know what I'm saying? So now the moments where I'm like I sit when I sit them down, I'm like, look.
Speaker 2:My bad. I shouldn't have reacted that way. They're like, Five points.
Speaker 4:Five points.
Speaker 2:Five points. You've just been docked five points. I'm like
Speaker 4:I hate it,
Speaker 2:but I
Speaker 4:love it. It's it's cool. It's seven to eight years. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah. It's cool.
Speaker 4:I love that. It's really good. And Drew, you said something that struck me, is that someone who isn't trying to be a father is they're not choosing pain, but I think it's just pain transferred. It's either gonna manifest itself as pain in that child's life or in some way it's just you're kicking the can down the road. And you're allowing somebody else to burden take on the burden of your own self responsibility instead of you owning the activities that you need to do day in and day out.
Speaker 4:So it's
Speaker 1:A very not to toot my own horn, but my my son takes the trash can. He's nine. He takes the trash cans down to the curb and collects the trash. And people are like, oh my god. I can't believe you get your son to take the trash can down to the curb.
Speaker 1:And I'm like, what do you mean? They're like, if I asked my if I asked my kid to do that, he would have a have a fit. I'm like, are you kidding me?
Speaker 3:Like Then we got a problem. Yeah.
Speaker 1:It's he I I but I started teaching him how to do the trash out when he was, like, two. And he would he I remember one time specifically, I tell this story often, but he threw a fit. He was like, I don't wanna like, I don't wanna do it. Don't wanna do it. And I was like, I could choose easy right now and just do it myself.
Speaker 1:Like, obviously, I could just take the trash out. Like, it's not that hard. But I suffered through that ten minutes of him not wanting to do it just for me to hold his hand on the trash can and take it down. But ever since that day, like, I as far as I can remember, it's been just something he does. Mhmm.
Speaker 1:And, like, asking him to do things that are hard nowadays is, like, not hard at all. Yeah.
Speaker 3:You gotta walk through the hard with him in those moments to let them
Speaker 1:Exactly.
Speaker 3:Figure that out.
Speaker 2:Mhmm.
Speaker 3:Yeah. One of these other concepts too, guys, that I've been I've been reading more about and listening about, and maybe you have too, but this concept of high agency, and I think it goes back to, Joy, one of your original comments, just to sum it up, is happening to life and not letting life just happen to you. Mhmm. And I think there's there's a lot to unpack with that. And I think, again, you can get some criticisms of people who are like, well, I can't prevent cancer.
Speaker 3:You fill in the blank. And I think it's less about that, more about the there's going to be things that happen, and I don't have control over it, but I think the response versus the react is a is a huge thing. So I'd love to get your take on that idea too.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I I agree a %. We can't control what happens to us, but we can always control something. You know? And you just look for what you can control, and that's where you focus your energy.
Speaker 2:Energy. You know? That that's basically what it comes down to, the respond react thing for for me. You know? No matter how easy it is or how hard it is, that's how I operate.
Speaker 2:You know?
Speaker 1:It really goes back to Ryan, like like you said, like, can you prevent cancer, though? Like, that's there was a period in my life, like, I got I had I had anxiety as a kid, and this goes back to, like, childhood trauma or whatnot. But I always had maybe childhood trauma expressed through anxiety. But at a point in my adult life, I got real bad, like health anxiety, worrying about dying, cancer or some kind of illness. So I was also at time reading a lot of like the Jocko stuff and things like that.
Speaker 1:And I started to I was like, alright. Like, I can sit here and worry about dying of cancer or some disease that I might get or I can, and that's when I got super immersed in the health and biohacking and doing everything I could, because everyone likes to make fun, oh, you're gonna die someday. I'm like, okay. Well, it's not gonna be for a reason that I'm in control of. If there's any kind of way I can stave off death or cancer, like, I'm gonna be the one in charge of it and I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 1:So that's how I approached anxiety in in my in my life.
Speaker 2:The I think, like, Drew, you mentioned worrying, and I think the the recipe for for happiness is really, like, don't worry. Do work. Like, that's my thing. But it's super it's super hard. It's hard not to to worry.
Speaker 2:It's it's hard not to worry that something's gonna happen to you. You know? The the happen two things is the is the work part. Right? And the only way and Drew's helping me with this over the years.
Speaker 2:Him and Brianna have been big forces in my life for this on this Fuwon journey is is gratitude. Something that you know, I was always grateful. I was never entitled. I was never I was always grateful for what I had, but it wasn't a muscle that I flexed every day. Mhmm.
Speaker 2:If that makes sense. Like, I waited, so I'm like, I had to flex it. Then I flexed it. You know? It wasn't a muscle that I was working every day, and they've they've helped me do that.
Speaker 2:Truly being grateful for the blessings I have as well as the challenges has helped me not to worry. It's helped me it's helped me reframe the the worry and then translate it into work. You know? That's when I think about happenings, that's that's kinda where it comes back to for me because I'm like, hey. Look.
Speaker 2:Like, so shit's gonna happen to us. You know? But let me reframe this and think about the things that have happened that are great and the things that
Speaker 3:Mhmm. Mhmm.
Speaker 2:I can make happen in the future.
Speaker 1:And you gotta flex the gratitude muscle even when you don't want to too. Right? Like, when times are hard and shit's going wrong, it's like, that's the time to be grateful. Like, someone else would kill for your problems.
Speaker 3:Mhmm.
Speaker 1:And, like, my sister, she's our base operations manager, but she'll call me and be like, oh, it's been a really rough day, really bad day. I'm like, oh, what kind of cancer did she get diagnosed with? You know what I mean? Have
Speaker 3:to Oh man.
Speaker 1:But you have to that's truly how in my brain, like that's how I think. I'm like, okay, I'm not I'm not I'm here. Right? Like, I'm battle. I'm I'm alive another day.
Speaker 1:Like, that's how that's how you have to operate in my opinion.
Speaker 2:There's there's two there's two famous quotes, and I don't know who to attribute them to. So you might have to fact check me, but or maybe I'll get fact checked after the show. But the first one is if you took all the wealth in the world and you divided it evenly amongst everybody in, like, a year's time, it would all be back in the same hands. That's the first one. And then second one, you know, these are two that I remind myself of often.
Speaker 2:The second one is if everybody put all their problems in the pot, someone would would gladly grab yours. You know what I mean? So, like, you know, being grateful.
Speaker 4:Really good.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Mark and I have
Speaker 3:said it a number of times, but I think this the pressure is a privilege is a real profound statement that I think, you know, I I I can get so hung up on the things we haven't done yet. Enjoy your gratitude point. It's so spot on because I think it's so important to look back and be like, alright. If I were to tell myself five years ago that I would have accomplished this, that, and the other thing, like Mhmm. I would be thrilled.
Speaker 3:But, you know, it's just like the goalpost just keeps kinda creeping further down the field. It's hard.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I I think it's a personal decision for everybody. Right? It's like high achievers, hard chargers like we are, and the few are. You know, success is a sliding scale, and it always will be.
Speaker 2:But I think individually as a person, you know, you you need to sit down and you just you need to say, like, you know, when is enough enough? And that doesn't mean you stop working. You know? Maybe it's enough of one thing, but not another. You know?
Speaker 2:I it's it's a very personal, personal decision. All I know is it takes a lot of hard work to get to that decision, so that's what we're gonna keep doing over here, restoring the dignity in that so everybody can get there.
Speaker 1:And when you commit to growth of the grave, like one of our or was it a few, like, and just, like, consistently growing, it's so easy to fall into that trap too. Right? Like and and I do feel, and we've been victim to this, when you get to a certain level and you take your foot off the gas a little bit, like that's when and and the comfort starts to creep in, like that's when things start to unravel. Mhmm. So it's like finding that perfect balance of like continuous growth and also not being so hard on yourself that you
Speaker 2:don't Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Self sabotage.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Yeah. Hormozi said it recently, and I know it's a quote from somebody else, you know, back in the day, but it's about high achievers. Right? And their makeup.
Speaker 2:Right? And there's three things that they kind of all have in common. And maybe you have heard it before, but they can delay gratification. Right? They think that they're or they think that they can do much more and be better than everybody else.
Speaker 2:But then there's but then there's the kicker, the last one, and this lines up with what Drew mentioned. They're insanely difficult on themselves, and they feel like they are less than other people. You know? It's a crazy makeup, dude. It's a crazy makeup because you feel one day in entrepreneurship, you're on top of the world.
Speaker 2:You're freaking king of the castle. And then the next day, you feel like a a serf, like a peasant. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1:Crazy.
Speaker 2:So it's like it's a it's a wild it's a wild journey, but Drew's spot on when he says, like, trying to dial that mix in. You know?
Speaker 4:Mhmm. Mhmm.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Day by day.
Speaker 3:So just from a tangible perspective, what are you guys doing from a reading perspective, habits that you're doing daily? What things have worked for you?
Speaker 2:Sure. You got some routines. Why don't you take it?
Speaker 1:I mean, I do my my daily gratitude journal. Are you guys familiar with the five minute journal in the morning? Mhmm. It's like, basically jot down like quick, like, free things you're grateful for, good things that happened that day or the day before, like, how you're gonna make the day. Love that.
Speaker 1:How you're make the day be. But I mean, as far as things I read, like, I'm always continually reading like the Ryan Holiday. Like, we're in a season of business where I haven't been reading as much. But I like to mix in I'm curious how you guys feel about it, but like, I'll be in a a stoic phase or a philosophy phase, and then I'll go to like a science fiction phase. Yeah.
Speaker 1:But I think I think for business and and for writing, like, a lot of my thoughts come from all of the books. Right? The business books, the philosophy books, the science fiction books. Like, there's just I I like to say that I've learned more in my reading than I did in my years of college, really. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I don't know if you guys agree, but I'm always continuously reading. But as far as recently, I'm reading How to How to Heal Your Eyes. So that's my current my current book of research. It working? I haven't I haven't applied the the workouts yet, but it's like Take Off Your Glasses and See is the book that it's called.
Speaker 1:Apparently, it's like ancient Chinese, like, put on this cast forever. Yeah. They they say put on this cast temporarily while your ankle heals.
Speaker 4:Wow. Wow.
Speaker 1:So I will get back to you guys on that.
Speaker 4:I'm gonna need to check-in on that. Yes.
Speaker 1:You are. I'm into that kind
Speaker 4:of stuff.
Speaker 1:When we run this podcast back, won't be wearing glasses.
Speaker 2:Deal. I I gotta hold you accountable
Speaker 4:to that.
Speaker 1:That's good. I
Speaker 3:love that.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I have a I'm I'm very, I guess, ritualistic. I've boiled my life down to really three things, and it's family, fuel hunt, and jujitsu. So I'm much I'm a I'm an addition by subtraction type of guy. So I do less from a routine standpoint than I did in the past.
Speaker 2:But my mornings are pretty straightforward. Wake up, drink some water, get to work. I do read the rules of the few, and I do read a daily devotional Mhmm. For the work. But I I keep it pretty simple, man.
Speaker 2:I have my my days time blocked. I know when I'm gonna be doing fuel homework. I know when I'm gonna be training jujitsu, and I know when I'll be with my family in the evening. Mhmm. Right away, that's it.
Speaker 2:And I just wanted to say no to a lot. You know? And it's been freeing and fulfilling, and it's actually helped me serve more people. So Mhmm. Yeah.
Speaker 2:That's what's working for me now. As far as reading, dark side of discipline by Craig Ballantyne. If you guys haven't picked that up.
Speaker 3:And halfway through the the pod that you guys you guys just had him on.
Speaker 2:We did. Yeah. Right. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah. He's a fan favorite.
Speaker 3:He's a
Speaker 1:he's a different album. He's a
Speaker 3:great guy.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Yeah. He's he's amazing. He's amazing.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Very cool. This is great. So as we wrap here, if you guys had to you've put out a lot of content, but if there was one principle that you had to highlight for for listeners, what would you note?
Speaker 2:Yeah, Joe. Take it. What do you got? You want me to go first?
Speaker 1:No. I mean, I will say the one that sticks the most with me, and this goes back to the theme of the the show we just did here, but this is what you prayed for is something we put out periodically that seems to stick, but just reminds me that like everything, all the problems I have now that I would have gladly taken ten years ago.
Speaker 2:Yep. Yep. Yep. Me, we have we have a lot, and we have a lot of frameworks and things. But if I had to choose one, I would say the few energy.
Speaker 2:Right? Like, every day, bring the few energy. And the few energy is a mix of three three things, grit, gratitude, and go. And we touched on all of those things during the show. I think that if you focus on those three things every day, so, like, being gritty and scrappy and being resourceful, you know what I mean, not letting things happen to you, happening to things.
Speaker 2:Right? Grit gratitude, we've talked about being so grateful for your blessings, but just as grateful for your challenges. And then the go portion, which we talked about, taking action, taking ownership. You know what I mean? Not falling into the inaction trap or the fear trap.
Speaker 2:The the the the few energy, bringing that every single day through those three channels would be, would be something that that I would want everybody to take away.
Speaker 3:Mhmm. Well said. It's a good place to leave it. We we appreciate you guys and all you're doing, so keep keep doing it. We love to keep promoting you guys as best as we can.
Speaker 3:I know our our our listener base is growing. It should be bought in and growing to and and be
Speaker 4:bought
Speaker 3:into
Speaker 4:a bigger than getting getting on the website and getting a shirt to become part of the few, fellas? What is what is required to be part of the few?
Speaker 2:So that is a great question. We get it often. The way I frame it is come join the community. So either follow us on Instagram or join our email list selfishly. I would say join our email list since I one of my favorite things to do is write emails to the community.
Speaker 2:Nice. So do one of those do one of those two things, but know that there's gonna come a point where you feel compelled to rep the few. So definitely you know what I mean? Like, wear the words Mhmm. Because we need our gear on back so that people can understand that we're out there, and we're working hard to restore the dignity of hard work.
Speaker 2:Sounds good. But, yes, join us on Instagram or on our email list.
Speaker 3:Well, next time we're together, we'll we'll Mark and I will be supporting the faith over fear, for sure.
Speaker 1:We'll send yeah. We'll send you some gear.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I'll send you some gear.
Speaker 3:We'll get
Speaker 2:a taste.
Speaker 3:You guys. Guys, Appreciate it. Great. Well, guys, thanks for jamming with us. This is awesome.
Speaker 3:Appreciate you guys.
Speaker 2:We appreciate the opportunity, guys. We really do.
Speaker 3:Thanks for taking the time.